Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Tim Flannery, who once famously once predicted the dams would never fill again, and who held a very well paid position as climate prophet Aussie climate commissioner for a few years, now desperately wants us to heed his advice on Climate Change and the Coronavirus.
The megafires and pandemic expose the lies that frustrate action on climate change
If there was a moment of true emergency in the fight to preserve our climate, it is now
This is part of a series of essays by Australian writers responding to the challenges of 2020
by Tim Flannery
Iwas in Melbourne in late January, watching as more and more people donned face masks to protect themselves against the bushfire smoke that had thickened the air for weeks and that was causing hundreds of deaths. Turning on the news, I was surprised to see footage of crowds in China similarly masked, but for a very different reason. Hundreds were then dying in Wuhan, Hubei province, from a novel virus.
When I asked Australia’s chief medical officer about the virus that same week, I could see the concern in his eyes. But my attention was largely on the fires. They were unlike anything experienced on the continent previously, and climate scientists were beginning to piece together the link with climate change. What few knew back then was that three catastrophes would strike Australia in quick succession: the unprecedented, climate-fuelled megafiresthat were extinguished in February by damaging, climate-influenced floods. Then, in March, the Covid-19 pandemic that began to spread across Australia.
These three catastrophes are proof that things that travel invisibly through the great aerial ocean that is our atmosphere are a particular danger to our complex, global civilisation. The carbon dioxide molecule that accumulates imperceptibly as we burn fossil fuels causes an increase in average global temperature, which triggered the profoundly disruptive droughts, floods and fires that plagued Australia over the past year. But the coronavirus also travels unseen through the great aerial ocean, insinuating itself in lung after lung, killing person after person, until it threatens our health system, economy and society.
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But if economic opportunity were the only driver of climate denialism, it could be countered by creating opportunity elsewhere, and to some extent this is happening. With enormous potential to be found in green hydrogen and the renewables sector, some bright young people are leaving the fossil fuel industry and staking their futures on the new, clean economy. What is holding back progress most strongly is the $80bn that corporations have invested in domestic gas infrastructure. Acting on the climate emergency would mean that these corporations will face huge losses. In ignoring the climate scientists and investing so heavily in gas they have made a bad economic bet but are unwilling to face the consequences.
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I think that as the full consequences of the megafires begin to be understood, climate denialism will become more and more difficult to sustain. The economic impact of the megafires is not insignificant: estimates put the full cost between $100bn and $200bn. Because the damage is concentrated in certain regions, those communities will suffer for years as they strive to rebuild.
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Tragically, the news from the climate scientists is getting worse and worse. Increasingly, many experts are viewing 2021, and specifically the UN climate change conference to be held in Glasgow late that year, as humanity’s last chance to avoid an environmental apocalypse. If there was a moment of true emergency in the fight to preserve our climate, it is now.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/sep/17/the-megafires-and-pandemic-expose-the-lies-that-frustrate-action-on-climate-change
The following is Flannery’s Dams will never fill quote, which in my opinion inspired Aussie state governments to waste of billions of dollars on unnecessary desalination plants.
The following is from the transcript of Flannery’s interview on the ABC:
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SALLY SARA: What will it mean for Australian farmers if the predictions of climate change are correct and little is done to stop it? What will that mean for a farmer?
PROFESSOR TIM FLANNERY: We’re already seeing the initial impacts and they include a decline in the winter rainfall zone across southern Australia, which is clearly an impact of climate change, but also a decrease in run-off. Although we’re getting say a 20 per cent decrease in rainfall in some areas of Australia, that’s translating to a 60 per cent decrease in the run-off into the dams and rivers. That’s because the soil is warmer because of global warming and the plants are under more stress and therefore using more moisture. So even the rain that falls isn’t actually going to fill our dams and our river systems, and that’s a real worry for the people in the bush. If that trend continues then I think we’re going to have serious problems, particularly for irrigation.
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Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/local/archives/landline/content/2006/s1844398.htm
Flannery is very good at projecting sincerity. He is a skilled public speaker, but Flannery’s track record of failed prophecies is seriously impeding his apparent attempt to reclaim the limelight.
For example, in addition to this effort Tim Flannery also gave us a climate change last chances in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2014, 2015, 2016, and probably lots of other occasions I can’t be bothered digging up. Clearly none of these occasions were actual last chances, because we are all still here.
Glasgow 2021 is “ humanity’s last chance” to avoid the climate apocalypse. Dear Lord.
Very crowded in the Last Chance Saloon.
In fact, last drinks were called several decades ago.
Not interested in paying for another round of drinks for Tim and the Climate Council.
Pretty sure it will be cancelled due to covid, to many countries will still be in lockdown.
Or will they ignore the Covid lock-downs, social distancing etc etc like BLM do.
Its all in the CAUSE, y’know !!
Shifted to next year
Oh goody, we get another “last chance” then !
This is your LAST chance: give me your wallet !!
That line gets taken seriously exactly once. After that you know it’s a bluff.
Thats the problem. All the CAGWarmists go to these conferences and then head off for last drinks and then all skol the kool ade.
I bet more condoms get used at “climate gabfests” than during the Olympics!
Hookers and blow comes to mind.
Doubtful. Most of these idiots could not pick up a paper bag without outside help.
Mind you the local hookers probably do a roaring trade ( on the tax payers dime ).
They may not be good a climate predictions but they sure know how to run an expense account.
re: “Last Chance Saloon”
A good turn of phrase, accurate and entertaining, well done Herbert.
Herbert,
Glasgow, November 2021.
Not a typical sunny, sandy beach scenario.
Though Scotland has some lovely beaches, it is likely that- in November, any year – anoraks will be needed more than bikinis.
Local solar power output may not be – quite (!) – up to nameplate level.
31st October – daylight is 9 hours, 16 minutes long.
Maximum elevation of the sun is (just) less than twenty degrees above the horizon. At Noon.
November is worse.
Glasgow isn’t Arctic – but it is well North. Much more than 200 Nautical Miles north of London, for a start.
But all that darkness allows extra-curricular activities, I suppose.
Auto
[Last in Glasgow last year, FWIW!].
How can anyone be so full of self righteous indignation and yet be so completely wrong at the same time?
CO2
You have just defined a “leftist”.
They destroy everything they touch.
A very special talent.
Truth is not a leftist value.
Feelings, not facts.
Beliefs, not data.
Equality, not freedom.
Anyone who disagrees is a racist, or a Na-zi, or even worse, a racist Na-zi, or much worse than that, a deplorable Trump voter!
If it’s bad, Trump caused it.
He’s a climate arsonist too.
Leftist climate “science”;
If it’s unusally hot, it’s climate change.
If it’s unususlly cold, it’s weather.
The world will end in 12 years, according to the famous leftist high school dropout, and Climate Perfesser, Great “thundering” Thunberg.
“The world will end in 12 years, according to the famous leftist high school dropout, and Climate Perfesser, Great “thundering” Thunberg.”
Wasn’t that 12 years meme concocted by the ditzy bartender down the road?
This list ends in 2015, so isn’t quite up to AOC’s and Greta’s predictions.
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
Very good!
I was at times working in Brisbane in the 1990s. I happened to ask a colleague what that large building was. Wow did that open the door. I was told that was Flannery’s building with one of the largest computers in Australia. I asked why and the door again and was told he gets whatever he wants and told me how much it cost. I don’t recall the actual number of AU$ but it was a huge number as I recall.
Point of the story is that even back then he was getting lots of money and some were implying that it was a big waste.
That is precisely Tim Flannery’s area of expertise. Its essence is to combine some sort of camera friendly visage and demneanor with a sense of authority and combine it with sexed up language. It just sells to a certain market like snake oil and all sorts of variants have done.
There is always going to be floods, droughts, pestilence and disease. Anyone using this to drag down civilization into the gutter with negative hopelessness instead of proposed solutions deserves no respect. It’s amazing that Flannery, like Ferguson of mad cows and pandemic fame, get a chance to continue their nonsense to more spout more gibberish to unsuspecting victims and generations. At least Prof Neil Ferguson quit as a government adviser on coronavirus after admitting an “error of judgement”. Why isn’t Flannery cancelled from having a voice in these important subjects, after he has screwed up so royally? Dr. Peter Ridd, who did tell the truth, hardly even got a mention in the media after having his life severely impacted.
gruniard and abc are THE two who will push this garbage yet agaon
most other media will sigh and ignore theyre used to flimflam man now
Whenever I hear Flannery’s name I’m reminded of Clive James epic takedown of him some years ago
Laughing right now as I recall it
Clive James was a master. Sadly missed. RIP!
I need this laugh ASAP – is there a link of Clive James doing this somewhere – Please post it!!
yes and not only did the dams fill again after the psychic, Tim Flannery predicted more El Nino’s – we had back to back – unpredicted La Nina’s and not only did the dams fill again in Sydney – where Tim resides or did?? but they had to open the floodgates in 2010
he is the biggest opportunist and such a lousy scientist – he gives science a bad name but so do lots of others – yes he’s made so much money out of this non-falsifiable hypothesis – hence opportunist
And today in Australia the Commonwealth Government announced that if the energy companies did not propose to build a 1000Mw gas peaker plant in the Hunter Valley by April 2021 , The Commonwealth will build it using the Commonwealth owned Snowy mountains Authority.
Gotcha Tim!
Of course they are all bleating as they are trying to milk subsidies to build a Gas plant.
Who ?????
Stick to kangaroo poo, Tim Foolery !!
Here’s a link to a list of failed prognostications. The prognosticators were not mere crackpots but actual experts. The thing is that there’s no penalty for failed predictions. In spite of his failed predictions, Paul R. Ehrlich seems to have thrived.
Experts, as well as the public in general, should have to study the work of Philip Tetlock who convincingly demonstrated that expert predictions of the outcome of chaotic systems are worthless.
It will get cool again. Just wait and see…:)
He is just 64, and there is no mandatory retirement age for fools.
A very good friend of mine, a Professor at the University of Georgia, a guy who liked having a laugh over dinner and wine, would often say “the only thing you get better at as you get older is bullsh!tting”. Flannery appears to be an exception to that rule.
Another sell-by date well passed.
If only there was a chance that we would never get to see Tim Flannery again, we would all leap eagerly and sign up for it.
Song of the Ruling Class [SATIRE}
We hate all the fathers who think they have the right
To spend time with their children and tuck them in at night.
Fathers march for Freedom, but there is no debate
The future of their offspring is a matter for the State.
We hate all the parents who try to break the rules
Messing with the messages we teach to kids in schools
Parents think that Freedom embraces family life
We’ll ensure that families suffer misery and strife.
The worst of the Victorians are those who plot and plan
Inciting folks to disobey our dear dictator Dan.
Don’t dare talk of Freedom. We’ll prove that might is right.
First arrest the pregnant ones who can’t put up a fight.
We hate each Victorian who rudely misbehaves
Duke Daniel is the master, and all the rest are slaves.
Victorians march for Freedom which only makes things worse
Dan is gonna teach them that liberty’s a curse
We hate all the doubters who won’t take a Gates vaccine
They think they have the right to choose, and that is so obscene.
The doubters march for Freedom and then commit the sin
Of asking doctors to prescribe hydroxychloroquine.
The world will be a better place when fossils all are gone
We hate all old people, they should be moving on.
The oldies march for Freedom and don’t use bongs or ice
In the New World Order, turning sixty is a vice.
We hate every racist who believes that all lives matter
Heed our simple message to be heard above the clatter
Forget about your Freedom, your task is to obey
We’re after reparations, and you will have to pay.
We hate commercial broadcasters who do it all for dough
The not-for-profit A.B.C. is the proper way to go.
Air time’s not for Freedom, it’s on our shut-down list
Close all commercial stations, they’ll none of them be missed.
We hate all you cretins who want to pay in cash
We must go electronic or the world is gonna crash.
Why should you have Freedom to decide what you can spend?
Our smart surveillance system will get you in the end.
The Chinese Communist Party is our constant inspiration
We’re grateful to their virus for shutting down the nation.
We’ll wipe out the Freedom folk because they speak the truth
Put ONE beside the Greens inside that polling booth.
We hate West Australians, they wear those wide-brimmed hats
Their seas are full of great white sharks, their skies are full of bats.
West Aussies march for Freedom and eat at Hungry Jack’s
We’ll fix them by imposing a rent resources tax.
We hate anti-socialists, they’ve really lost the plot
The Beijing Communistas are the best friends we have got.
Pay-a-politician beats Freedom every time
When Australians all are Maoist, that sure will be sublime.
We hate all the tourists, why should we aim to please?
The majority of foreigners all come from overseas.
If Freedom’s what they’re wanting, we wish they’d go away
Except those who hate Australia, whom we’ll invite to stay.
We hate all coal miners; they exhale polluted air
Wear chauvinistic tattoos; don’t shave their pubic hair.
Miners moil for Freedom and sire too many kids
Coal miners are the reason the world is on the skids.
We hate the geologists, like Professor Ian Plimer
To stop them finding minerals, well nothing could be finer.
You who march for Freedom, it’s only fair to warn yer
We’re abolishing geology to protect the troglofauna.
We hate all the drillers; they never talk but shout
Wear those ugly yellow hats; don’t take their earplugs out.
The drillers march for Freedom and pretend to earn their pay
Get rid of all the drillers and the mines will fade away.
Creatures should be roaming free but get shut in a pen
We hate all livestockers, the women and the men.
The cockies march for Freedom and steal the milk from cows
And then offend our Moslem friends, with piglets and with sows.
Fertiliser, pesticide – they’re worse than acid rain
We hate all the farmers, who grow the nation’s grain.
The farmers march for Freedom, what could be more cruel?
We’ll put them down by slapping diesel excise on their fuel.
We hate all the tradies, the bogans crude and rude
Who play rough sport and chew red meat instead of vegan food.
Tradies stand for Freedom then hoon around in utes
Wearing ghastly HiViz with dusty steel-capped boots.
We hate all the truckies, they roll their cigarettes
Wear sweaty dark blue singlets and keep dogs or cats as pets.
They’re advocating Freedom, just hear their conversation
If we can stop the truckies then we can stop the nation.
We hate all Queenslanders, they should stop eating beef
The polar bears have all died out upon the Barrier Reef.
They must not talk of Freedom in a State that’s mining coal
Eliminating fossil fuel is our righteous noble goal.
Lobsters, eels and oysters should all be swimming free
We hate all the fishers; they think they own the sea.
The fishers march for Freedom with zinc cream on their noses
Life with no more fishing is a floating bed of roses.
We hate all the coppers, that high-paid mob of mugs
Flag us down, test our breath and search our cars for drugs.
Cops who crush our Freedom label lawbreakers as liars.
We’ll use them for arresting climate change deniers.
We hate all the military, who annoy Australia’s foes
They get trained to be killers and we want none of those.
They make a show of Freedom when they march on Anzac Day
To have a safe Australia, close the A.D.F. today.
We hate Local Councillors, those useless silly fools
Take rates from mining companies and become their willing tools.
They have to learn the lesson that Freedom’s on the slide
When we have got the power, there’ll be no place to hide.
Every extra human is polluting planet earth
We hate all the women who insist on giving birth.
They join in on Freedom Day and block the street with prams
Then write letters to the papers asking for more dams.
We hate all gun owners, their daughters and their sons
When we seize the reins of power, then we get all the guns.
They think that having Freedom includes the right to shoot
With no-one to oppose us, then we’ll put in the boot.
We hate all you workers, why should you have jobs?
You should be on the dole like us and hang out with the slobs.
All you want is Freedom to save money for the future
And join your Aussie unions. When we get the guns we’ll shoot yer.
We hate all the bikies, they look so gauche in leather
Their Harley carbon footprints make all this rotten weather.
They turn out in their thousands to ride on Freedom Day
Wait till we’re the hunters and the bikies are our prey.
We hate all the filthy rich, we’re gonna tax them blind
The fact that we may let them live, just shows we can be kind.
They rarely mention Freedom which may be their mistake
We’ll make the big decisions, when the nation comes awake.
We hate all you Christians, you think God made the Earth
And claim that humans are alive before they’re seen at birth.
You lead prayers for Freedom and use words like “compassion”.
We’ll make sure your foolish faith will soon go out of fashion.
We hate carbon dioxide; you can see it in the air
It causes deadly climate change and messes up your hair.
It triggers floods and bushfires, and too much icy snow
Give us lots of billions and we’ll pump it down below.
OPTIONAL CHORUS
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©Michael Darby 2020
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epic ode M Darby:-)))
shared the link here and pleased to do so
dont reckon you missed a thing in that huuuge list
Tim Flannery is a mammalogist and an expert in the now extinct giant wombat.
I like to call him the Wombat Man
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JcJJzsAP0Iw
Flannery is a bloody idiot, and his own “science” is against every lie he proffers. See what the Paris statement says about storms, droughts, and other assorted extreme weather between 1918 and 2018…all the opposite of what Blathery and “our ABC” push as their sociopathic narrative.
Why is it our “conservative” Govs allow this bullshit to continue? Are they actually this stupid? It seems incredible, but its either that or they are utterly corrupt…this seems to be the case so please vote for Pauline and Mark Latham…we need to hold these strange and unrepresentative swill to account.
Key phrasing “If there was a moment..”
There isn’t. Such things as “emergency moments” are used for dramatic effect in fiction, story telling, and confidence games.
“These three catastrophes are proof that things that travel invisibly through the great aerial ocean that is our atmosphere are a particular danger to our complex, global civilisation.”
Oh, P-L-E-E-E-A-S-E! Electromagnetic radiation travels invisibly through the “great aerial ocean that is our atmosphere” and acts to keep the planet both above ice temperature and below the boiling point of water at sea-level. In addition, CO2, which also travels invisibly though the “great aerial ocean that is our atmosphere”, serves as fertilizer that increases the “greening” of our planet.
While you may be strong on poetry, you are very weak on basic science and logic.
That is all that needs be said.
If the world does not end next year, it surely will the following year.
Attention! The End of the World has been postponed due to lack of interest…
Glannery’s rank stupidity continues – unabated.
But absent an msm desperate for alarmist headlines, the flannery fools would just be left howling at the moon all by themselves.
Let’s be clear who is really looking to promote and profit from climate porn.
Sounds like a load of old flannel to me
No-one takes the flannel seriously anymore.
Flatulence is an embarrassment to Oz. Wiki says hes a monologist, paleontologist by trade so, …. studies old boobs?
Flannery’s great claim to fame is his “it ain’t gonna rain no more” prediction, followed shortly by the floods that made Queensland a lake.
Here’s a list of his achievements.
https://www.riteon.org.au/tim-flannery-professor-of-dud-predictions-and-climate-falsehoods/
and hilariously with the La Nina ramping up it may just do the lake thing in qld and down sthagain with luck
flimflams timing is, as ever, utterly shite!
This is Flannery’s full name.
Timothy Fridtjof Flannery.
Maybe if he hadn’t been christened Fridge off by his parents. perhaps if they had named him Oven off, he would not have been so fixated with global warming. Maybe we would all have been assailed by concerns for global cooling and a new ice age cometh?
We are all victims of our upbringing. If his parents are still alive they might be asked why?
English Lit. Major.
Wrong Pat …. Flannery’s BA was in English but his masters and PhD were in Earth Sciences.
How he did that I don’t know … where I got my BSc in Geology you would have had to go back and get a BSc before getting into a masters program in Geology. He somehow side stepped all the physics, chemistry, calculus and the culling process in years two & three of the typical geology BSc program which eliminate the artsies who lack true science aptitude.
Tim and his idiot friends are the major risk to society much more than the natural fluctuations of our solar system and the third rock from the sun
When will the world put this court jester and others like him in safe padded cells for their own protection
Con artist.
Oh well. He will always have Paris!
Hah!
Thank God we still have one last chance left I thought we had run out of them
Hey, Tim!!! NASA data indicates no increase in wildfires worldwide. That mean those wildfires of yours cannot possibly be the result of global warming. The only thing that equals the ignorance of these folks about he climate is their solution for reducing atmospheric CO2 – renewables suck in every conceivable way and everyone with any energy knowledge knows that the only means of providing low cost, low carbon energy lies in small modular molten salt nuclear reactors – cheap, easy to build, reliable, load following, air cooled, utterly safe, fueled by “nuclear waste”, etc . But no alarmist leader will ever mention the word nuclear, as that provokes hysteria in the small, ignorant minds of his followers. Global warming alarmists are a sorry, stupid, dangerous bunch of people (I use the term loosely).
Up to 2015. Because that’s where the Watts article cut off. why was that?
4 years is NOT climate, griffool…
Thanks for CONFIRMING that the steady beneficial rise in atmospheric CO2 had nothing to do with it, griffool.
Or are you still totally incapable of telling the difference between WEATHER and climate ?
I may be wrong but I think the person collating the list of daft claims died or was too ill to continue
anyone else hat knows for sure feel free to correct me;-)
“…If there was a moment of true emergency in the fight to preserve our climate, it is now…”
Sorry. Prince Charles told me that the tipping point moment was 6 years ago, and I’m sure that he’s a better climate scientist than you are. After all, he talks to trees, and they have been around looking at the climate for longer than any of us….
Tim Flannery know no shame!
I have zero interest in anything this snake oil salesman has to say.
Our very own home grown Michael Mann.
Tim Flannery: “If there was a moment of true emergency in the fight to preserve our climate, it is now”
So, all the previous moments were of false emergency? Thanks for letting us know.
“When I asked Australia’s chief medical officer about the virus that same week, I could see the concern in his eyes. But my attention was largely on the fires. They were unlike anything experienced on the continent previously, and climate scientists were beginning to piece together the link with climate change. What few knew back then was that three catastrophes would strike Australia in quick succession: the unprecedented, climate-fuelled megafires”
Megafires unlike anything experienced on the continent before? You really are full of hyberbole and unscientific drivel again here Tim as usual. Remember the megafauna and the megafires Tim?
http://www.abc.net.au/science/future/theses/theses1.htm
A man for all seasons is our Tim the dams are never gunna fill Flummery and your typical dyed in the wool doomster.
Well Tim is in good company with his false predictions isn’t he?
Some of us remember this gem from Prince Charles back in March 2009. “100 months to save the world from climate catastrophe”
Now that prediction of doom came right from the top. The future King of England no less, he should know, he certainly knows what the trees are telling him apparently?
His end of time date was thus July 2017. For those of you who missed the end of the world, do not feel too bad about it, you are in good company we all survived without any change in our habits, or change in the climate, or anything else.
Maybe the only real victim of the momentous end of the world was Prince Charles reputation. Then again remember this is the same loon that talks to plants, and was famously recorded smooching on the phone to his lover (while married to Lady Dianna) that lover is now his wife Camilla, his greatest wish was to be her tampon…..
He didn’t have much of a reputation to lose, did he?
Maybe, being a climate alarmist does something bad to your brain?
Enjoy
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/4952918/Prince-Charles-we-have-100-months-to-save-the-world.html
Climate’s last chance – 2006
“The main indicator of how long we have to address climate change is the state of the Arctic icecap, which covers Earth’s northern ocean.
Before 2004, the rate of melt was such that scientists believed the icecap would melt entirely by about 2100. At the trajectory set by the new rate of melt, however, there will be no Arctic icecap in the next five to 15 years.
James Hanson, director of NASA’s Goddard Institute, is arguably the world authority on climate change. He predicts that we have just a decade to avert a 25-metre rise of the sea. Picture an eight-storey building by a beach, then imagine waves lapping its roof. That’s what a 25-metre rise in sea level looks like.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/climates-last-chance-20061028-ge3fvb.html
Worst apocalypse. Ever.
Something useful that maybe is not really well know. Queensland Ag rainfall maps for the last 120 yrs, for all australia. One version even has cyclone tracks.
https://www.longpaddock.qld.gov.au/rainfall-poster/
unprecedented, climate-fuelled megafires that were extinguished in February by damaging, climate-influenced floods .
Climate influenced floods? Like air influenced breathing? I count 3 errors in that sentence.
Flannery wrote a book titled 1788 which was based on the diary of lieutenant of Marine, Watkin Tentch. Flannery failed to mention the temperature of that early settlement in 1788 at Sydney Cove.
David Hill also wrote a book of the same title also based on Watkin Tentch’s diary. On page 161 he wrote, “Watkin Tench was later to describe the fierceness and changeability of the hot summer winds, which were ‘like a blast from a heated oven’. The temperature one day ‘peaked at a hundred and nine degrees farhenheight, (42.9 C), which killed some of the vegetables that had been planted”….What does this failure to report this important statement do to Flannery’s credibility? That temperature would be as high, if not higher than any temperature we experience today!