Climate, Coal, and Covid

A 20 minute, quite comprehensive, presentation.

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June 12, 2020 6:26 am

And then the recycling, when the wind plant has reached it’s end of life, after 10 years, not the predicted 20. Plastic turbines buried in the ground. At least a gas/coal station can be cut up and the metal sold as scrap, recycling GRP is very expensive.

Jack Black
Reply to  Matt_S
June 12, 2020 6:08 pm

So that’s right about wind not really being a viable alternative to Coal, and lets not forget that there are essential by-products to electricitity with a coal fired plant that wind simply cannot provide. I am of course in the main talking about Fly Ash, which is an essential ingredient in everything from cement production, to highway blacktop and land stabilisation for roadbeds, to PVC piping filler materials, railroad ties, power grid poles and pylon bases, and even paints, polishes and toothpaste, as well as sulphuric acid and other chemical feedstock; none of which are generated by Wind Turbines.

In point of fact, land based wind turbines with the hundreds of tonnes o concrete each uses, plus the access roads in wind farms, couldn’t even exist without the Fly Ash produced in coal fired plants. In a very real sense, by causing decommissioning of their source material producing competitors, Wind Farms are actually cutting off supply of their own reproduction capabilities.

Reply to  Matt_S
June 12, 2020 7:20 pm

June 12, 2020 at 6:26 am

Let’s not forget that the wind mill blades are made mostly of fibreglass, not plastic, so can’t be recycled or even incinerated. They must be buried in landfill…surely not an ideal outcome for “green” energy proponents one would have thought.

Carl Friis-Hansen
June 12, 2020 6:30 am

Thanks Charles for presenting this video.
It is tailor made for laymen like me, and I think some warmers may find it educational too.

Carl Friis-Hansen
June 12, 2020 6:41 am

Oh, what about Covid? the film did not say much about it, but here is a horrific armature video about a young woman coming 20cm (one small foot) too close to a police officer. Six officers to play American football with the lady and twenty officers more to intimidate the crowd. In the video several shout that mask is the new … (cross used in the 30’s Germany). A lot of screaming that the whole Covid-scare is dictatorship:

Personally I was close to crying during the video.

I found the video by reading the “Swiss doctors” team article:

Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
June 12, 2020 8:53 am

You must have seen a different video. I saw a young lady trying to poke a policeman with a very flexible stick for two minutes at least, by a chance recorded by a very persistent lady recording everything. The “20 cm” moment she did not record. The whole scene was like asking for a very hot coffee at McDonald’s.

June 12, 2020 6:41 am

Excellent presentation. A bit dry and not toppling statues so my bet is not MSM fare. Would not even begin to signal any level of virtue. Maybe we could get Musk to build a coal powered rocket and all would be well.
Thank you.

Gerry, England
June 12, 2020 6:48 am

Excellent video.

And since our presenter is German and has already mentioned their expensive electricity the GWPF carries some what could be very good news. At the end of this 5000 German windfarms lose their taxpayer subsidy. But as wind energy is so cheap it should have no problem competing in the market even with the Covid-19 low prices. Or maybe not given what we have just seen. I think the GWPF headline needs and edit to say ‘…and Germany faces the loss of considerable amounts of very expensive and unreliable green electricity.’

June 12, 2020 7:54 am

This video’s quite a bit longer (1 hr 10 min), but it’s a must see if you want to understand why, apart from the homicidal seeding of nursing homes with infected people, NYC Covid-19(84) mortality is so high. This whistle-blowing nurse explains in detail how it’s not the virus ki!lling people, but the murder-for-dollars system that is ki!lling them.

June 12, 2020 7:58 am

Retry with changes to bypass ‘m-word” moderation.

This video’s quite a bit longer (1 hr 10 min), but it’s a must see if you want to understand why, apart from the homicidal seeding of nursing homes with infected people, NYC Covid-19(84) mortality is so high. This whistle-blowing nurse explains in detail how it’s not the virus ki!lling people, but the murd3r-for-dollars system that is ki!lling them.

Reply to  icisil
June 12, 2020 10:59 am

If even half of what this nurse says is correct, surely that is more than enough to get parts of this hospital shut down and should trigger an investigation into the practices being undertaken by senior medical staff and management.

Reply to  Pumpsump
June 12, 2020 12:09 pm

What was in those body bags was bodies of dead people, not from covid-19.
No any money to make there, therefor dumped in the bin, with no much regard, or second thought,
to make room for “COVID-19” dead bodies, which had a very lucrative tag price attached, as a too lucrative profit for the “gangs” of NYC, dealing in the business of morgue hospitality.

Oh, well not as terrific and scary and as criminal as in Italy, where military involved too, also, in a similar procession of terrorizing the population, in such a “gangsta” activity.



J Wurts
Reply to  icisil
June 13, 2020 2:24 pm

……Watch this video…..

It is brilliant, sickening, horrifying, infuriating, and a magnificent example of if you want to totally screw up something….give it to the Government to do.

Some of these people making life and death decisions should be taken out& shot.

Approx a 90% death rate for patients on ventilators, any of you hear that on the MSM.

Just think what single payer would do for medicine….more of this.


June 12, 2020 8:02 am

Yes. Outstanding video presentation! Thank you very much.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Doug Huffman
June 12, 2020 2:58 pm


June 12, 2020 8:50 am

Better add it to the Dead Sea Scrolls of climate issue discussions in this world of book (data) burning, witch hunts, and debate has ended now official truth squads.

Joseph Zorzin
June 12, 2020 9:08 am

Off subject- but here’s the latest ranting from James Hansen:

Bill Rocks
June 12, 2020 9:26 am

Thank you for posting this excellent video presentation.

J Mac
June 12, 2020 9:49 am

Very good summary of the fully burdened costs of wind and solar energy vs conventional energy sources! Will forward this to many!

June 12, 2020 10:25 am

One of the better more honest videos to come out of Germany, telling basic truths about the true costs of all our energy supplies. Watched it twice and will bookmark and share with others. Should be on the front pages and lead item in Der Spiegel and BBC and the rest of the worlds media. I wonder if he will face some kind of free speech charges in Germany for telling the truth about ‘Variable’ energy supplies like big solar and big wind? He will of course be vilified from the get go just because his family is already in the coal business for some time now.

Dr. Lars Schernmakau is of course correct about the facts, such as the resources required to build grid scale batteries, solar and wind, and the fact that they are only really partial efficient in the best locations, and not all locations are ideal for such. And the fact that it takes up to 10 years to recover the basic energy in the cost to manufacture, especially if the variable intermittent renewable is not sited correctly such as lack of basic wind resources, such as in much of tropical Asia. Ideal sites might pay off their direct energy and manufacturing and installation costs perhaps quicker, but we see these technologies being applied everywhere as a solution, when it actually isn’t which is why he is probably correct in stating that the first 10 years of variable renewable electricity production is required to just pay their manufactured and installed costs because they are sited incorrectly over much of the word, which would be solar PV in the UK and much of Europe. Not accounting for their disposal and recycling cost at the end of their useful life, which might be as low as 15-20 years.

Why bother with trying to replace fossil fuels with solar/wind intermittent energy when we see there is honestly little improvement to lowering CO2 emissions anyway? I only wish he had given more credit for advanced nuclear as a long term solution that we need to start building soon if any of these emission targets are truly wanting to be minimized, although as he points out, CO2 isn’t the problem anyway…in fact just greens the good Earth and makes for more photosynthesis and more global biomass and less desertification around the world.

June 12, 2020 10:47 am

So, did they put it in the kids section on purpose? No comments, no saving to playlists.

June 12, 2020 12:48 pm

Well.. I never knew that!

The most surprising things were the graphs showing ‘wind energy density’ in Europe and Asia. I knew that my own country – UK – was one of the most reliably windy places on earth, but the calmness of most of East Asia was surprising – except for the Taiwan strait – and that heavy colour along the mediterranean coast of France, contrasting the generally low med. basin as a whole, seems extraordinary.

Any climate watchers care to comment?

Jim Lennon
Reply to  mothcatcher
June 13, 2020 1:59 pm

China is the world’s largest generator of electricity from wind and has great wind resources; India is the world’s fourth largest.

Jack Black
June 12, 2020 6:24 pm

Nuclear Power option: However although there are emergent technologies that depend upon Thorium molten salt reactors, these are not well advanced in terms of large scale civil programmes, as a credible alternative for Uranium cycle reactors. What is real however is the transition to much smaller and faster build SMR Uranium cycle reactors that have very long fuel cycles, and effectively consume their own waste as part of the process. Such reactors are a development from Military second and third generation reactors, which now being replaced with the latest “secret designs”, leaves the way open for the declassified designs to be used in Civil infrastructure projects.

British Company Rolls-Royce are well advanced in the field, and last year having divested their remaining North American assets to Westinghouse USA, are embarking upon these plans, with a start date for full commercial production anticipated to be as early as 2029. Test reactors already working in several locations, and based upon the same technology as Royal Navy Nuclear Powered Hunter-Killer Submarines of Trafalgar Class (R-R PWR1). Such reactors may only require refuelling every 25 years.

In the future Civil SMR Reactors planned to follow with designs based upon the R-R PWR2 Military grade reactor, now being fitted to new replacement Royal Navy Craft, that is anticipated to have possible refuelling cycles of between 50 and 100 years in future Civil applications, with slow burnup times, and self breeding fuel cycles, using Uranium fuel cycle.

Some details published here:

Official information at Rolls-Royce website:

Westinghouse (former R-R subsidiary division) in USA has similar plans, and in synergistic cooperation with Rolls-Royce would use the older model US Navy Submarine & Surface Craft type 1 designs now being declassified, as a basis for their own Civil SMR proposals.

Such SMR reactors have the advantages, that they can be mass produced in a factory, and shipped out to prefabricated buildings on sites, at an order of magnitude lower cost than traditional Civil Nuclear reactors, and a build time of as little as a year per reactor, compared with up to ten years for a traditional embedded core design. Output of SMRs can be about one fifth to one half of traditional designs. (200-500MW, as opposed to 1-2GW capability per reactor core).

Paul Stevens
June 13, 2020 5:02 am

It was absolutely worth sitting through this excellent presentation simply to learn of the World Wind Atlas, which interactively shows you the energy density of the wind in any country for any height unp to 300 m. Forget wind energy for Canada except offshore or north of the most populated areas. Ditto for much of the US, forget Central Africa, much of Asis etc. The speaker talks quickly, but it is worthwhile pausing the video to fully take in the implications of the various graphs. Bravo.

michael hart
June 13, 2020 8:45 am

It’s always comforting to see a German industrialist talking sense about these matters. But alas, he still seems to be outnumbered by the hysterical alarmists who have held the whip-hand for several decades now.
I can’t yet see the light at the end of the tunnel.

June 13, 2020 1:11 pm

Thorium power….cooled by liquid salts….try it ….you will like it….bonus of economic boom from cheap clean electricity.

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