Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg says it is “extremely likely” that she and her father contracted the coronavirus, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
Thunberg and her father, Svante, stayed in a separate apartment away from her sister and mother, who are located in Stockholm, in an effort to not infect them if the two carried the highly contagious virus, the New York Times reported. She said she felt “tired, had shivers, a sore throat and coughed,” while her father’s symptoms were far worse, she explained in her Instagram post.
She explains that she has “basically recovered” and urges everyone to stay at home. “Many (especially young people) might not notice any symptoms at all, or very mild symptoms,” the post said. “We who don’t belong to a risk group have an enormous responsibility, our actions can be the difference between life and death for many others… Please keep in mind, follow the advice from experts and your local authorities and #StayAtHome to slow the spread of the virus.”
Addendum, noticed this related tidbit below on the twit.~cr
Yea, Bob, like read later after she is tested for presence of the antibody that proves she had it, or not. Video at 11:00 (unless the world burns due to climate change).
COVID-19 is like a Red Badge of Courage for people like her. You gain more virtue points.
“The Red Badge of Courage is a war novel by American author Stephen Crane. Taking place during the American Civil War, the story is about a young private of the Union Army, Henry Fleming, who flees from the field of battle. Overcome with shame, he longs for a wound, a “red badge of courage,” to counteract his cowardice. When his regiment once again faces the enemy, Henry acts as standard-bearer, who carries a flag.
The author of Red Badge of Courage (published 1894), Stephen Crane poignantly wrote in a letter to a friend, “”You can tell nothing… unless you are in that condition yourself…” .
We see Greta and her handlers understand that we are living though this COVID-19 epidemic point in history and they do not want have “this condition” pass them by and miss and opportunity get another Scout badge on their label to wear for everyone to see, a “badge of Courage” to talk about as if gaining some wisdom by it.
Exactly, that’s why so many Hollywood celebs are claiming to be Caronavirus positive. Its trendy and keeps their Instagram followers generating revenue for them.
Caronavirus is the 2nd most common cold virus, next to Rhinovirus. Testing positive for Caronavirus is about as unusual as seeing clouds on a rainy day.
“I’m Caronavirus positive” – “NO – I’m Caronavirus positive”, “I’m Caronavirus positive”……ad infinitum. The whole of Hollywood will be declaring itself Caronavirus positive by the end of the month
8,000 of those who have been tested. Quite possibly 80,000 or more actually have it.
Iceland did some random testing and found about 1% of the couple of thousand people they tested had it, at a time when the official figures were more like 0.1% of the population. And that’s only people with active infections; they were testing for the virus, not antibodies.
So we still have little idea of how many people have had it and how many people catch it and have minor symptoms.
What they should be doing every year for the flu season is to be careful of the infirm elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Why are they panicking over about 20,000 dead worldwide while the “flu” salad of viruses takes averages 650,000 worldwide every year. This is ridiculous. They are panicking over the croutons on the salad. Without the unproven tests they are using so freely only where available, the effects of this virus would not even be a blip in the flu season statistics. It is the presence of such viruses as this each year that probably determine which years will be bad years or not. The flu vaccines only target one class of “flu” viruses
They are worrying about a burning match while the house burns down.
Multiply that number by at least 10. I know of at least three acquaintances who have all symptoms but since all are below 50 yr old, none have been tested and are in strict self isolation, and told to phone 111 again in 7 days time ?!
How many of those who had tested positive gave rise to actual mild,moderate or severe illkendoness, necessitating hospitalisation .I have read that the test scan give false positive results
Changing the category changes the rules it will be treated under. As a HCID it is treated in specialised centres. After re-classification it is treated anywhere. It doesn’t matter otherwise because corona is subject to special rules anyway.
David Gadziala
March 25, 2020 6:33 am
Well, at least I’ll sleep better now that I know all this.
JasonL
March 25, 2020 6:39 am
And now Prince Charles. Hmmm, didn’t his father once say that if he could be reincarnated, he would like to come back as a killer virus to reduce the population?
Things you don’t want to hear at Windsor Castle: “Ma’am and HR Philip; his HRH the Duke of Cornwall is here for a surprise visit to you both and he hasn’t washed his hands.”
DJ
March 25, 2020 6:39 am
This kid is a living character, sprung to life right out of South Park. Even Cartman would have a tough time keeping up with Greta. ….
Dr Hugh Montgomery from University College London said virus ‘very infectious’.
One person could infect 59,000 others with COVID-19 compared to 14 with flu.
Greta would be well advised to keep quiet about how many people she & her father could have infected during their railway jaunt around Europe & journey back to Sweden. How fortunate to have access to a borrowed apartment! Like all totalitarianists, one rule for the hypocritical elites & one for the despicables.
It was, just Google Dr. Hugh Montgomery. 59,000 is just 3 raised to the tenth. He’s using 10 iterations of people passing on an infection. 1.4^10 = 14. So he’s comparing R0 = 1.4 for flu to R0 = 3 Covid-19. He could have used 4 and gotten to one person infecting 1,000,000. The choice of 10 iterations is also entirely arbitrary. Of course it’s mathematical non-sense as the first person only infects 1.4 people (don’t know how you infect 40% of a person) or 3 people. By Montgomery’s logic after 20 iterations, one person could infect 3.5 billion.
Rick
That is why a logistic curve should be used instead of an exponential. As the available potential people to infect declines, from dying or the development of antibodies, the ability of an infected individual to infect others declines. That is, the effective R0 declines as more and more people become infected. Most of the panic seems to be based on a worst-case scenario that is unlikely — like an RCP 8.5!
Whenever someone says “could” you should always — ALWAYS — interpret that as “will not”.
‘If you elect this guy, you could lose your health insurance.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
‘One person could infect 59,000 others.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
‘Sea levels could rise by 3 meters by 2100.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
Could. The great weasel word. With it you can imply something while not actually claim something. A whole lot of things could happen, but common sense tells us it almost certainly will not happen.
Sea Level COULD rise by UP TO 3 meters by 2100
It doesn’t have to rise by 3 meters to be found technically correct it only has to rise an additional amount by 2100
Celebrity types are nearly all infected according to their media releases, especially common among those whose agents are trying to keep names in the news.
I’m sure you know as well as everyone here, that if Hell froze over and Biden did win the election, he’d be immediately retired and Hillary would be president.
Realize that Biden will be choosing a female VP candidate.
That person will be the President when Biden can no longer hold office, which looks like pretty soon now.
So of course all the libs will vote for that eventuality.
I’m truly hoping for Joe Biden/Hank Johnson D ticket… I think the amusement provided would be well worth the wait!
littlepeaks
March 25, 2020 6:46 am
There’s lots of other things going around that can cause the same symptoms. One of my daughter’s coworkers had similar symptoms, and the doctor diagnosed her with strep throat. And back in January, my daughter was very sick with a high fever and puking for about 3 days — and she gave it to me (bless her heart). I think we had the norovirus (which had been going around Colorado), Fortunately for me, my bout only lasted one day.
Trendy Hollywood elites are already sighing and stating that Covid 19 is so passe – “We are already using Covid 20”
David Wells
March 25, 2020 6:52 am
Prince Charles has Covid 19. Duke of Edinburgh said when he died he wanted to come back as a virus to wipe out humanity. Attenborough said “humans are a plague for planet”. Maybe now Duke will recant his human hating obsession as Charles progresses from a human virus potentially deadly to everything to a human with a possibly death threatening virus which hopefully might make him more appreciative of those his father likes to hate. The people who pay tax to support his luxury lifestyle. He like Attenborough whinge 24/7 about population but have enjoyed the benefits of growth driven economies to fund their extravagant world wide travel which they refer to as obligations which they choose to decline when they know full well that they could if they really believed their own doom laden rhetoric.
She does not apply the Precautionary Principle consistently. There is no absolute guarantee that she won’t be dangerous after just 14 days. She should #StayAtHome indefinitely.
Jacques Lemiere
March 25, 2020 7:11 am
i always follow the advice of the experts, and as i contracted the virus i am more convinced then ever that following the advices of the experts is important…
clearly she should change her message a bit..
avoid contacts , wash hands…quite simple..
so her message should be i didn’t follow the advices , frankly speaking it is difficult..and i pay the price.
not a petty flu as far flu can be described as petty…
Babsy
March 25, 2020 7:11 am
What’s this “likely” business? If she’s been tested then say so. Otherwise it’s more “Fake News” from an attention seeker.
She says she hasn’t been tested, hence the “likely”. Like a hypochondriac, she’s assumes she has it based on symptoms that could apply to any number of aliments (allergies, common colds, the flu, etc) other than the Wuhan virus.
Why are you all so frightened of this young person? she seems to have somehow tipped the balance of whatever sanity you (generic) had. Attack! attack Attack!.
Why not wipe out her message with real scientific facts?
Well I believe her message was … We are all evil and stealing her childhood?
Pretty sure any number told her to grow up and stop being a brat. If she wanted to hold her breath and go blue and throw a tantrum it’s okay you will grow out of it.
There are no scientific facts showing that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere going from pre-industrial 280ppm to current 410ppm have had any measurable effects on any global climate parameter.
That’s why her message and yours are wiped out among real scientists.
Because she’s not encumbered by facts and she’s being used to forward an extremely destructive movement, and that has to be addressed, no matter how uncomfortable and high-minded you view yourself, about attacking human shields.
Even notice how many progressive ideological ideas are currently being pushed by children?
Greg
March 25, 2020 7:23 am
Cured in one hour too. pic.twitter.com/Ws2tR4ZpgQ
— Dr. Waheed Uddin (@drwaheeduddin) March 25, 2020
Rather disingenuous Dr. since the first post already says ” I may have had ….” . English may not be your first language , so I’ll explain. It’s called the present perfect tense . It describes something which is presently terminated.
eg. I have had my lunch I am now starting work again.
It does not mean I am going to lunch or I’m just starting the entree.
Apart from that I’m sure she’s making it all up like she makes up the ongoing mass extinction of life on Earth … which we have not yet found a single example of .
“Stay at home” seems to be her solution for everything.
Disputin
March 25, 2020 7:26 am
Be fair! I know she can be irritating, but she is doing the right thing.
I hope she really has recovered, and her dad pulls through. She might be a public figure who promotes an absurd position which I lose no sleep challenging, but she’s also a scared kid whose dad is desperately sick, let’s not lose sight of that.
Greta, get some medical attention. Every person I’ve seen to date who goes on youtube or whatever after diagnosis says they feel fine. This virus is nasty, a lot of people who think they are doing OK are actually in a lot of trouble.
This model is already wrong. The virus has up to 14 days incubation period where you are infectious during that time. So if you do the 100% compliance route the chart will continue to rise for another 14 days minimum.
Refer to the Italian Experience for a clear demonstration of this. They went into quarantine with only 1,500 cases, now they have 74,000 cases and it’s only just starting to level off.
If people here were taking her seriously, I’d agree. But other than our resident trolls, I don’t see anyone who does. It doesn’t waste much oxygen to point and ridicule, and the resulting laughter is good for you so win-win.
Well, look at it this way.
The energy used to produce the comments on this thread was supplied by wind and solar power.
(There’s not much of it left so comment while you can!)
Len Werner
March 25, 2020 7:47 am
We may be missing the only-slightly-masked subtle message being delivered here–the ‘we the young must save the planet’ message.
“We who don’t belong to a risk group have an enormous responsibility, our actions can be the difference between life and death for many others… ”
Heard anything like that from ‘Greta’ before?
Mark Fraser
March 25, 2020 7:56 am
Back in the headlines
troe
March 25, 2020 7:58 am
Hope that Greta and her Dad are well. I have also self isolated for the past week as I have some symptoms consistent with COVID 19. I get these about once a year and was over due for something. Allergies get worse when the weather fluctuates between warm and cold as it does at this time of the year here. That creates a comfortable environment for corona, rhino, and other viruses. We live in a rural area with few reported cases so that’s a good thing.
Greta and her parents have proven incredibly adept at self advertisement. Spreading false information being a favorite tactic deployed many times in the recent past. Should not surprise anyone that a critical approach is taken to any information coming from such a source. You can dial up the outrage volume but it doesn’t change the facts. Bad information is the life blood of the radical environmentalists. That has been proven many, many times.
Yes, unfortunately some people see “low risk” and think “no risk”. the Wuhan virus can kill, regardless of your age. The fact that the older your are or if you have other underlying conditions the higher the risk, does not negate that there is still risk, low though it may be, for the young without other underlying conditions.
No-one ever said that. But the median age of deaths in Italy is over 80 and around 90% of them have other health issues that might have killed them soon anyway.
The dinosaur media are focusing on every rare case where a young person dies and using it to spread panic and sell advertising.
I think we would especially agree that a young person dying of the disease is particularly sad. Fortunately, the chance of that happening is quite small. It’s not zero, however.
At least she is consistent. She is positive she had the virus, even without any actual hard evidence and no effort to find the hard evidence.
All very consistent with the cAGW argument- warmists in general are absolutely certain that the 3% of CO2 increase that is from human activity is the dominant cause of catastrophic global warming/ “climate change.” Like Greta, they are so convinced of their own argument that they won’t look for the evidence – it is true because they say so-no evidence required.
You must believe.
You must believe.
J Mac
March 25, 2020 9:17 am
There was a slight error in this story’s headline. Here is the correction:
“Greta Thunberg Says She And Her Father Likely Had The Socialist Crony Virus”
Symptomatically, the Socialist Crony Virus makes uneducated adolescents convinced they have divine oracular inspiration on delusional topics. When their irrational oral flatulence is challenged, they express their virtue signalling divinity with imperious yet baseless accusations of “You have stolen my childhood! How Dare You!!!” The Socialist Crony Virus is highly contagious amongst the uneducated, gullible, easily impressionable, and those seeking to redistribute other peoples wealth to themselves rather than work for their own estate. There is no known vaccine of reliable efficacy for the Socialist Crony Virus to date.
The coronavirus is the celebrity virus. Celebrities love getting it so that they can get oodles of media attention, the attention that they are so addicted to. They need to simply be ignored. We will then see how rapidly the number of celebrities with the virus will plummet. 😉
Yep, I’ve seen clips of the pathetic creatures sat at home in tears, hoping that we’ll all make it through somehow…it’s like the AIDS thing- that was terrible for anyone who had it, but it was often avoidable unless you were a vacuous celebrity who believed themselves to be above the same rules as mere mortals. They then went on a massive crusade, demanding huge resources be diverted into the fight against AIDS as it was THE worst thing that had ever happened anywhere to anyone. Meanwhile, cancer sufferers who had done nothing to deserve their fate could go hang…just imagine how much further cancer research could have come if it’d had the same publicity and backing!
son of mulder
March 25, 2020 9:32 am
She didn’t see that coming did she?
John Bell
March 25, 2020 9:47 am
Everybody was Kung Flu fighting! Those tweets were fast as lightning.
Having worked extensively in infectious diseases, Dr Spencer’s past work experience saw him contract the deadly Ebola virus. In 2015, after treating patients in West Africa, he was diagnosed and treated in New York City for the viral hemorrhagic fever, which on average kills 50 percent of those infected.
So Influenza viruses, rhinoviruses, and adenoviruses decided to take the winter off because SARS-CoV2/COVID-19 was in town???
When I used to deploy in the USAF when I was on active duty, I would invariably get a head cold if I stayed in a new location for more than a few days. Both times in Italy, 1995 and 1999, I got head colds while there that made me see the flight surgeon and go DNIF for a few days. Same thing in Okinawa in 1992. The only time I had a major deployment and not get a cold was after 9/11 in 2001/2002, in was at the Combined AirOps Center and never left the confines of the base because of security concerns. New areas and communities for travelers means different “versions” of microbes your immune system hasn’t yet seen, so a cold or flu was more likely.
In Alberta, 1% of tests are coming back positive. That tells me that 99% of people with flu like symptomes do not have Corona. All these people that “are sure” or “extremely likely” they had Corona, there is about a 99% chance they are wrong.
BillJ
March 25, 2020 12:20 pm
That addendum is pretty silly. She clearly said that she started feeling ill 10 days before and that she’s recovered.
No way to know whether she had it or not but given her global travels and exposure to huge groups it’s certainly possible. And it’s possible she infected many others too. We’ll probably never know.
Because she and her father traveled so extensively recently, they absolutely should be tested so authorities can then trace back and at least try to warn people, that is the procedure. The Swedes are screwing up
ren
March 25, 2020 1:36 pm
The biopharma successfully produced Virus-Like Particles (VLP) of the coronavirus in just 20 days using proprietary plant-based technology
Google tells us that the Russian Kaspersky-2019 Anti-Virus program is available at 40% discount, however the far more deadly Chinese Wuhan-2019 virus program is distributed world wide totally free of charge.
Maybe the UK government could ask Canadians about the vaccine? Does the UK government want to save the economy?
Joel Snider
March 25, 2020 2:47 pm
And why wouldn’t she try to exploit this bandwagon too?
yarpos
March 25, 2020 3:27 pm
Desperate for a headline, and the media obliges.
Coeur de Lion
March 25, 2020 3:37 pm
Greta must realise her star is fading. I haven’t heard her mentioned on the BBC for AGES. I’m watching CO2 for a fall to a ‘safe’ level of 350ppm as she would wish as a result of Coronavirus de-industrialisation. If it doesn’t happen goodbye to AGW
Martin A
March 25, 2020 4:05 pm
Greta’s dad writes very fluent English.
a happy little debunker
March 25, 2020 4:21 pm
If she truly believes she has ‘had’ Covid19 – then she should self isolate until she can show she is negative to the virus.
Anything less than that and she threatens the future of anyone who has not contraacted Covid19.
john
March 25, 2020 5:47 pm
She caught it when she lectured Xi in China after her tour in India. She had to dodge sniper fire and Somali pirates on her layover on the sinking island of Binomo. 🌴
michael hart
March 25, 2020 5:59 pm
I’ve figured out who to cast for one role when they remake “The Exorcist”.
OK – That is perfect casting, Michael! And as funny as 3 socialists fighting over the last $2 of other peoples money!
mrbliss
March 25, 2020 7:20 pm
I would have that, that with her extraordinary abilities, she would have seen that wuhan virus coming and give it the slip
mr bliss
March 25, 2020 7:22 pm
…and apparently, she is demanding that kids turn up at school on Fridays to protest….. something.
Daryl M
March 25, 2020 9:52 pm
Go away, Greta.
Flight Level
March 26, 2020 12:23 am
Another #metoo trend ?
Technetium99
March 26, 2020 1:00 am
This would have to be the first time that the ‘China virus” has been positively associated with permanent brain damage…..
Jay
March 26, 2020 10:54 am
We need to check how many people she spread the disease in the UK. She recently attended a big rally in Bristol, UK. That time many people raised the important issue of COVID-19 and asked to stop that event but it still went on. She and the organiser did not pay any heed. I am sure numerous people got infected from that single mass rally, including her. She and the organiser need to be punished for such an immoral act.
Sheri
March 26, 2020 1:59 pm
I don’t see where they even have a test for antibodies, so how did Greta have one????
Sheri
March 26, 2020 2:04 pm
You might want to check how many actual tests come back negative. Many people “believe” they have the Covid 19 virus, very few actually do.
Prince Charles positive CoViD19
Angela Merkel positive CoViD19
Greta Thunberg ?positive CoViD19
Svante Thunberg ?positive CoViD19
Common factor: All attended Davos 2020
This ought to be a fun thread to come back and read later.
Regards,
Bob
Yea, Bob, like read later after she is tested for presence of the antibody that proves she had it, or not. Video at 11:00 (unless the world burns due to climate change).
COVID-19 is like a Red Badge of Courage for people like her. You gain more virtue points.
“The Red Badge of Courage is a war novel by American author Stephen Crane. Taking place during the American Civil War, the story is about a young private of the Union Army, Henry Fleming, who flees from the field of battle. Overcome with shame, he longs for a wound, a “red badge of courage,” to counteract his cowardice. When his regiment once again faces the enemy, Henry acts as standard-bearer, who carries a flag.
The author of Red Badge of Courage (published 1894), Stephen Crane poignantly wrote in a letter to a friend, “”You can tell nothing… unless you are in that condition yourself…” .
We see Greta and her handlers understand that we are living though this COVID-19 epidemic point in history and they do not want have “this condition” pass them by and miss and opportunity get another Scout badge on their label to wear for everyone to see, a “badge of Courage” to talk about as if gaining some wisdom by it.
Exactly, that’s why so many Hollywood celebs are claiming to be Caronavirus positive. Its trendy and keeps their Instagram followers generating revenue for them.
Caronavirus is the 2nd most common cold virus, next to Rhinovirus. Testing positive for Caronavirus is about as unusual as seeing clouds on a rainy day.
“I’m Caronavirus positive” – “NO – I’m Caronavirus positive”, “I’m Caronavirus positive”……ad infinitum. The whole of Hollywood will be declaring itself Caronavirus positive by the end of the month
How long before Greta starts performing miracles?
It sounds like she just had the seasonal flu, or the common cold. But there’s no screen time in that, so of course she has to cry WuFlu !
MSM are horse’s ars.s- this came out 6 days ago!
“As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK”
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid?fbclid=IwAR0qpn_FP0xIdLUOjFLZS5hXFpfnWYyeoX6dykdgc0PaR5E4d1fOk2BTFGw
Six days ago, written probably ten days ago and overtaken by events.
The virus is out of control in the UK with the great unwashed doing their darndest to spread it far and wide.
8000 people in the UK have it. About the number of 4 small villages.
8,000 of those who have been tested. Quite possibly 80,000 or more actually have it.
Iceland did some random testing and found about 1% of the couple of thousand people they tested had it, at a time when the official figures were more like 0.1% of the population. And that’s only people with active infections; they were testing for the virus, not antibodies.
So we still have little idea of how many people have had it and how many people catch it and have minor symptoms.
possibly –
at least they have had the sense to downgrade it to the level of a bad flu.
We’ll see how they respond as it has now been reported that Charles has tested positive
More than90,000 people were testedin the UK. 82,359 were negative according to the Evening Standard, 12 hours ago
What they should be doing every year for the flu season is to be careful of the infirm elderly and those with compromised immune systems. Why are they panicking over about 20,000 dead worldwide while the “flu” salad of viruses takes averages 650,000 worldwide every year. This is ridiculous. They are panicking over the croutons on the salad. Without the unproven tests they are using so freely only where available, the effects of this virus would not even be a blip in the flu season statistics. It is the presence of such viruses as this each year that probably determine which years will be bad years or not. The flu vaccines only target one class of “flu” viruses
They are worrying about a burning match while the house burns down.
Those were the Electrons
WEll they are only testinf for people with synptoms, i.e. are already likely to have it.
… but is also reported as just going about his business without undue difficulties.
Acht. Every silver lining has its cloud.
Multiply that number by at least 10. I know of at least three acquaintances who have all symptoms but since all are below 50 yr old, none have been tested and are in strict self isolation, and told to phone 111 again in 7 days time ?!
How many of those who had tested positive gave rise to actual mild,moderate or severe illkendoness, necessitating hospitalisation .I have read that the test scan give false positive results
Today’s (Wednesday) UK Covid-19 update
http://www.vukcevic.co.uk/UK-COVID-19.htm
111, so you’re in NZ? You can use 000 (Aus), 999 (UK) too, not sure about 911 but would not surprise me if it worked.
Big cities are hit big
Changing the category changes the rules it will be treated under. As a HCID it is treated in specialised centres. After re-classification it is treated anywhere. It doesn’t matter otherwise because corona is subject to special rules anyway.
Well, at least I’ll sleep better now that I know all this.
And now Prince Charles. Hmmm, didn’t his father once say that if he could be reincarnated, he would like to come back as a killer virus to reduce the population?
If there is any justice in this world …
I’ll second that Walter:
Long live the Queen.
I would hope no one here would be so unkind as to wish harm to either greta or prince Charles, no matter your personal opinions of them
Tonyb
Hard to say what’s worse, his old man’s comment about viruses or Chuck’s comments regarding his desires for Camilla.
No that was he. He also wanted to be a tampon.
Things you don’t want to hear at Windsor Castle: “Ma’am and HR Philip; his HRH the Duke of Cornwall is here for a surprise visit to you both and he hasn’t washed his hands.”
This kid is a living character, sprung to life right out of South Park. Even Cartman would have a tough time keeping up with Greta. ….
She has a face like a ventriloquist’s dummy.
The picture atop this article is the first I’ve seen of her smiling.
Asperger’s don’t really smile, they just mimic what they think other’s want to see.
They are socially deaf.
She IS a ventriloquists dummy
2You must respect my athoritaa”
Dr Hugh Montgomery from University College London said virus ‘very infectious’.
One person could infect 59,000 others with COVID-19 compared to 14 with flu.
Greta would be well advised to keep quiet about how many people she & her father could have infected during their railway jaunt around Europe & journey back to Sweden. How fortunate to have access to a borrowed apartment! Like all totalitarianists, one rule for the hypocritical elites & one for the despicables.
Reference, please. I don’t believe this to be true or that it was said in those terms.
It was, just Google Dr. Hugh Montgomery. 59,000 is just 3 raised to the tenth. He’s using 10 iterations of people passing on an infection. 1.4^10 = 14. So he’s comparing R0 = 1.4 for flu to R0 = 3 Covid-19. He could have used 4 and gotten to one person infecting 1,000,000. The choice of 10 iterations is also entirely arbitrary. Of course it’s mathematical non-sense as the first person only infects 1.4 people (don’t know how you infect 40% of a person) or 3 people. By Montgomery’s logic after 20 iterations, one person could infect 3.5 billion.
Rick
That is why a logistic curve should be used instead of an exponential. As the available potential people to infect declines, from dying or the development of antibodies, the ability of an infected individual to infect others declines. That is, the effective R0 declines as more and more people become infected. Most of the panic seems to be based on a worst-case scenario that is unlikely — like an RCP 8.5!
Well using that logic, the original person that caught this disease will infect millions. So one person could infect millions.
Whenever someone says “could” you should always — ALWAYS — interpret that as “will not”.
‘If you elect this guy, you could lose your health insurance.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
‘One person could infect 59,000 others.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
‘Sea levels could rise by 3 meters by 2100.’ (And when it does not happen, ‘I never said it would happen, I only said it could.’)
Could. The great weasel word. With it you can imply something while not actually claim something. A whole lot of things could happen, but common sense tells us it almost certainly will not happen.
Sea Level COULD rise by UP TO 3 meters by 2100
It doesn’t have to rise by 3 meters to be found technically correct it only has to rise an additional amount by 2100
Celebrity types are nearly all infected according to their media releases, especially common among those whose agents are trying to keep names in the news.
So true!
Biden says he has no symptoms as he coughs into the camera.
https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1242678298213302272
Pray that Biden doesn’t die. We need him for amusement this fall.
If he dies, the Democrats might replace him with someone competent.
I think you forgot the sarc tag Mark. The word “competent” does not exist in the democrat playbook.
Were you thinking Adam Schiff, last seen on the back of milk cartons (it’s an American thing limeys, Aussies et al.)?
Sure Competent does though in reference to the current crop of DEMS both in office and running it is generally preceded by the prefix IN
I’m sure you know as well as everyone here, that if Hell froze over and Biden did win the election, he’d be immediately retired and Hillary would be president.
Realize that Biden will be choosing a female VP candidate.
That person will be the President when Biden can no longer hold office, which looks like pretty soon now.
So of course all the libs will vote for that eventuality.
I’m truly hoping for Joe Biden/Hank Johnson D ticket… I think the amusement provided would be well worth the wait!
There’s lots of other things going around that can cause the same symptoms. One of my daughter’s coworkers had similar symptoms, and the doctor diagnosed her with strep throat. And back in January, my daughter was very sick with a high fever and puking for about 3 days — and she gave it to me (bless her heart). I think we had the norovirus (which had been going around Colorado), Fortunately for me, my bout only lasted one day.
The family that shares together …
yes, lots of norovirus (oregon)
Funny follow up on this Greta thing – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKv1p4vQJ88 by Salty Cracker on you tube.
Good video.
Yep. These clowns believe that the best thing for humanity is that we can (pretend to) make everybody on the planet colder.
Hence the origin of the term “truth is stranger than fiction”.
Big deal. I had it last year before everyone even knew what it was!
Top that!
My favorite was making fun of the hipsters always bragging they had every “cool” thing first.
“Big deal. I had Covid 18 before the new virus even came out!”
Peter
We used to joke that the first liar doesn’t have a chance.
I had it on vinyl.
I’ve got it on an Edison Diamond Disk!
Trendy Hollywood elites are already sighing and stating that Covid 19 is so passe – “We are already using Covid 20”
Prince Charles has Covid 19. Duke of Edinburgh said when he died he wanted to come back as a virus to wipe out humanity. Attenborough said “humans are a plague for planet”. Maybe now Duke will recant his human hating obsession as Charles progresses from a human virus potentially deadly to everything to a human with a possibly death threatening virus which hopefully might make him more appreciative of those his father likes to hate. The people who pay tax to support his luxury lifestyle. He like Attenborough whinge 24/7 about population but have enjoyed the benefits of growth driven economies to fund their extravagant world wide travel which they refer to as obligations which they choose to decline when they know full well that they could if they really believed their own doom laden rhetoric.
Harvey Weinstein is supposedly infected too. Where’s Al?
Probably been sticking his tongue somewhere were he should have , again.
He’s gonna have it while though. Apparently COVID-19 can last for weeks on slime.
The Queen had better keep her distance.
I can’t wait the Duke of Edinburgh to die so that I can wipe out with a squirt of hand sanitiser next time around.
I thought she was the virus .. covid-green … the world ends in 11 years.
That’s a good name, “covid-green,” the response is very much similar except we wouldn’t be allowed heat and electricity.
I am disappointed. If she can see carbon dioxide, surely she can see coronaviruses.
You will be charged for my new monitor!
I was gonna make a similar comment, You beat me to it John! Great minds and all that.
…attention whores
More evidence that climate alarmism is hazardous to your health! Stay strong, Greta! We need you to grow up and denounce all of this nonsense.
Her dad writes well…
Her PR team write well
I love the “emergent medical treatment”.
She does not apply the Precautionary Principle consistently. There is no absolute guarantee that she won’t be dangerous after just 14 days. She should #StayAtHome indefinitely.
i always follow the advice of the experts, and as i contracted the virus i am more convinced then ever that following the advices of the experts is important…
clearly she should change her message a bit..
avoid contacts , wash hands…quite simple..
so her message should be i didn’t follow the advices , frankly speaking it is difficult..and i pay the price.
not a petty flu as far flu can be described as petty…
What’s this “likely” business? If she’s been tested then say so. Otherwise it’s more “Fake News” from an attention seeker.
She says she hasn’t been tested, hence the “likely”. Like a hypochondriac, she’s assumes she has it based on symptoms that could apply to any number of aliments (allergies, common colds, the flu, etc) other than the Wuhan virus.
Her Dad may have prostate cancer. She’s sure that she caught hers from him; because it’s running in the family.
Wuhan virus …. racist.
I’ll join you though, I’ll have Chinese food tonight.
Is Ebola virus racist too? how about the Spanish Flu (of 1918)? what make Wuhan/China so special?
Why are you all so frightened of this young person? she seems to have somehow tipped the balance of whatever sanity you (generic) had. Attack! attack Attack!.
Why not wipe out her message with real scientific facts?
project much? nobody is frightened of her. Why are you so frightened of people talking about a public figure whose absorbed positions you agree with?
Why not wipe out all those “frightened” “attackers” with real scientific facts?
absurd not absorbed. stupid auto corrupt.
Well I believe her message was … We are all evil and stealing her childhood?
Pretty sure any number told her to grow up and stop being a brat. If she wanted to hold her breath and go blue and throw a tantrum it’s okay you will grow out of it.
Ridiculing the ridiculous means you are afraid of them?
More projection and pathetic attention gathering.
Here’s a scientific fact ghalfrunt:
There are no scientific facts showing that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere going from pre-industrial 280ppm to current 410ppm have had any measurable effects on any global climate parameter.
That’s why her message and yours are wiped out among real scientists.
Your turn …. go on
Because she’s not encumbered by facts and she’s being used to forward an extremely destructive movement, and that has to be addressed, no matter how uncomfortable and high-minded you view yourself, about attacking human shields.
Even notice how many progressive ideological ideas are currently being pushed by children?
Cured in one hour too. pic.twitter.com/Ws2tR4ZpgQ
— Dr. Waheed Uddin (@drwaheeduddin) March 25, 2020
Rather disingenuous Dr. since the first post already says ” I may have had ….” . English may not be your first language , so I’ll explain. It’s called the present perfect tense . It describes something which is presently terminated.
eg. I have had my lunch I am now starting work again.
It does not mean I am going to lunch or I’m just starting the entree.
Apart from that I’m sure she’s making it all up like she makes up the ongoing mass extinction of life on Earth … which we have not yet found a single example of .
“Stay at home” seems to be her solution for everything.
Be fair! I know she can be irritating, but she is doing the right thing.
So am I , but that is not front page news !!
She got world acclaim for breaking the law and inciting a whole generation to do the same thing. Now she is back to set us another example.
She now thinks she is the moral guardian of the planet and we need a 16 y.o. truant to tell us to stay at home.
I hope she really has recovered, and her dad pulls through. She might be a public figure who promotes an absurd position which I lose no sleep challenging, but she’s also a scared kid whose dad is desperately sick, let’s not lose sight of that.
Greta, get some medical attention. Every person I’ve seen to date who goes on youtube or whatever after diagnosis says they feel fine. This virus is nasty, a lot of people who think they are doing OK are actually in a lot of trouble.
Kid, Eric?
She is 17. In under a year she will be legally able to get her shirt off and write How Dare You all over her chest for her Twit updates.
If anyone is scared it should be us.
Funny how the climate realists tweet image of Greta labelled “and then I got the virus”, shows Greta touching her face 😂
Yes that’s a good “how to” for catching the virus.
Now all the cool kids will go protest to get it.
Didn’t she just say that she always follows the advice of those she has granted the status of expert?
So why is she touching her face?
What a media whore.
Here’s some Australian computer modelling of how much distancing compliance is needed to stop the spread (along with shutting schools)
News Story Lab about says it all.
Have they validated their model ?
Oh, I thought not. Here’s my model:
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
This model is already wrong. The virus has up to 14 days incubation period where you are infectious during that time. So if you do the 100% compliance route the chart will continue to rise for another 14 days minimum.
Refer to the Italian Experience for a clear demonstration of this. They went into quarantine with only 1,500 cases, now they have 74,000 cases and it’s only just starting to level off.
I think it’s well past time that we stopped giving toxic individuals like the Thornbergs the oxygen of our consideration.
If people here were taking her seriously, I’d agree. But other than our resident trolls, I don’t see anyone who does. It doesn’t waste much oxygen to point and ridicule, and the resulting laughter is good for you so win-win.
Well, look at it this way.
The energy used to produce the comments on this thread was supplied by wind and solar power.
(There’s not much of it left so comment while you can!)
We may be missing the only-slightly-masked subtle message being delivered here–the ‘we the young must save the planet’ message.
“We who don’t belong to a risk group have an enormous responsibility, our actions can be the difference between life and death for many others… ”
Heard anything like that from ‘Greta’ before?
Back in the headlines
Hope that Greta and her Dad are well. I have also self isolated for the past week as I have some symptoms consistent with COVID 19. I get these about once a year and was over due for something. Allergies get worse when the weather fluctuates between warm and cold as it does at this time of the year here. That creates a comfortable environment for corona, rhino, and other viruses. We live in a rural area with few reported cases so that’s a good thing.
Greta and her parents have proven incredibly adept at self advertisement. Spreading false information being a favorite tactic deployed many times in the recent past. Should not surprise anyone that a critical approach is taken to any information coming from such a source. You can dial up the outrage volume but it doesn’t change the facts. Bad information is the life blood of the radical environmentalists. That has been proven many, many times.
So … it’s just super-oldies on death’s door who get coronavirus??
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-25/daughter-21-believed-to-be-youngest-in-uk-to-die-from-coronavirus/
Yes, unfortunately some people see “low risk” and think “no risk”. the Wuhan virus can kill, regardless of your age. The fact that the older your are or if you have other underlying conditions the higher the risk, does not negate that there is still risk, low though it may be, for the young without other underlying conditions.
No-one ever said that. But the median age of deaths in Italy is over 80 and around 90% of them have other health issues that might have killed them soon anyway.
The dinosaur media are focusing on every rare case where a young person dies and using it to spread panic and sell advertising.
I do think anyone said exactly what you said.
I think we would especially agree that a young person dying of the disease is particularly sad. Fortunately, the chance of that happening is quite small. It’s not zero, however.
I meant to say, “I do NOT think…”
So called celebrities out Virusing each other
At least she is consistent. She is positive she had the virus, even without any actual hard evidence and no effort to find the hard evidence.
All very consistent with the cAGW argument- warmists in general are absolutely certain that the 3% of CO2 increase that is from human activity is the dominant cause of catastrophic global warming/ “climate change.” Like Greta, they are so convinced of their own argument that they won’t look for the evidence – it is true because they say so-no evidence required.
You must believe.
You must believe.
There was a slight error in this story’s headline. Here is the correction:
“Greta Thunberg Says She And Her Father Likely Had The Socialist Crony Virus”
Symptomatically, the Socialist Crony Virus makes uneducated adolescents convinced they have divine oracular inspiration on delusional topics. When their irrational oral flatulence is challenged, they express their virtue signalling divinity with imperious yet baseless accusations of “You have stolen my childhood! How Dare You!!!” The Socialist Crony Virus is highly contagious amongst the uneducated, gullible, easily impressionable, and those seeking to redistribute other peoples wealth to themselves rather than work for their own estate. There is no known vaccine of reliable efficacy for the Socialist Crony Virus to date.
The coronavirus is the celebrity virus. Celebrities love getting it so that they can get oodles of media attention, the attention that they are so addicted to. They need to simply be ignored. We will then see how rapidly the number of celebrities with the virus will plummet. 😉
Yep, I’ve seen clips of the pathetic creatures sat at home in tears, hoping that we’ll all make it through somehow…it’s like the AIDS thing- that was terrible for anyone who had it, but it was often avoidable unless you were a vacuous celebrity who believed themselves to be above the same rules as mere mortals. They then went on a massive crusade, demanding huge resources be diverted into the fight against AIDS as it was THE worst thing that had ever happened anywhere to anyone. Meanwhile, cancer sufferers who had done nothing to deserve their fate could go hang…just imagine how much further cancer research could have come if it’d had the same publicity and backing!
She didn’t see that coming did she?
Everybody was Kung Flu fighting! Those tweets were fast as lightning.
Great line, just needs some music.
Having worked extensively in infectious diseases, Dr Spencer’s past work experience saw him contract the deadly Ebola virus. In 2015, after treating patients in West Africa, he was diagnosed and treated in New York City for the viral hemorrhagic fever, which on average kills 50 percent of those infected.
Despite having survived such a deadly illness, Dr Spencer states that he’s worried about COVID-19 and is making a direct plea to anyone who is still under the impression that it’s tantamount to “just another” strain of flu to take physical distancing seriously.
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/doctor-gives-harrowing-account-of-life-on-the-frontline-for-clinicians-treating-covid19-in-new-york/
So Influenza viruses, rhinoviruses, and adenoviruses decided to take the winter off because SARS-CoV2/COVID-19 was in town???
When I used to deploy in the USAF when I was on active duty, I would invariably get a head cold if I stayed in a new location for more than a few days. Both times in Italy, 1995 and 1999, I got head colds while there that made me see the flight surgeon and go DNIF for a few days. Same thing in Okinawa in 1992. The only time I had a major deployment and not get a cold was after 9/11 in 2001/2002, in was at the Combined AirOps Center and never left the confines of the base because of security concerns. New areas and communities for travelers means different “versions” of microbes your immune system hasn’t yet seen, so a cold or flu was more likely.
In Alberta, 1% of tests are coming back positive. That tells me that 99% of people with flu like symptomes do not have Corona. All these people that “are sure” or “extremely likely” they had Corona, there is about a 99% chance they are wrong.
That addendum is pretty silly. She clearly said that she started feeling ill 10 days before and that she’s recovered.
No way to know whether she had it or not but given her global travels and exposure to huge groups it’s certainly possible. And it’s possible she infected many others too. We’ll probably never know.
Because she and her father traveled so extensively recently, they absolutely should be tested so authorities can then trace back and at least try to warn people, that is the procedure. The Swedes are screwing up
The biopharma successfully produced Virus-Like Particles (VLP) of the coronavirus in just 20 days using proprietary plant-based technology
Medicago’s platform can produce both vaccine and antibody candidates against COVID-19 disease
https://www.biospace.com/article/releases/medicago-announces-production-of-a-viable-vaccine-candidate-for-covid-19/
This bit of wit is from an acquaintance.
“if you don’t have COVID-19, don’t worry as the Chinese will introduce COVID-20 Pro this coming September.”
Google tells us that the Russian Kaspersky-2019 Anti-Virus program is available at 40% discount, however the far more deadly Chinese Wuhan-2019 virus program is distributed world wide totally free of charge.
“The biopharma successfully produced Virus-Like Particles (VLP) of the coronavirus”
‘So you don’t have to say where is the one that got away’
Do not judge without accurate information. The chicken egg vaccine is dangerous. The tobacco vaccine does not contain virus DNA.
Maybe the UK government could ask Canadians about the vaccine? Does the UK government want to save the economy?
And why wouldn’t she try to exploit this bandwagon too?
Desperate for a headline, and the media obliges.
Greta must realise her star is fading. I haven’t heard her mentioned on the BBC for AGES. I’m watching CO2 for a fall to a ‘safe’ level of 350ppm as she would wish as a result of Coronavirus de-industrialisation. If it doesn’t happen goodbye to AGW
Greta’s dad writes very fluent English.
If she truly believes she has ‘had’ Covid19 – then she should self isolate until she can show she is negative to the virus.
Anything less than that and she threatens the future of anyone who has not contraacted Covid19.
She caught it when she lectured Xi in China after her tour in India. She had to dodge sniper fire and Somali pirates on her layover on the sinking island of Binomo. 🌴
I’ve figured out who to cast for one role when they remake “The Exorcist”.
OK – That is perfect casting, Michael! And as funny as 3 socialists fighting over the last $2 of other peoples money!
I would have that, that with her extraordinary abilities, she would have seen that wuhan virus coming and give it the slip
…and apparently, she is demanding that kids turn up at school on Fridays to protest….. something.
Go away, Greta.
Another #metoo trend ?
This would have to be the first time that the ‘China virus” has been positively associated with permanent brain damage…..
We need to check how many people she spread the disease in the UK. She recently attended a big rally in Bristol, UK. That time many people raised the important issue of COVID-19 and asked to stop that event but it still went on. She and the organiser did not pay any heed. I am sure numerous people got infected from that single mass rally, including her. She and the organiser need to be punished for such an immoral act.
I don’t see where they even have a test for antibodies, so how did Greta have one????
You might want to check how many actual tests come back negative. Many people “believe” they have the Covid 19 virus, very few actually do.
Prince Charles positive CoViD19
Angela Merkel positive CoViD19
Greta Thunberg ?positive CoViD19
Svante Thunberg ?positive CoViD19
Common factor: All attended Davos 2020
New Scientist podcast with Greta Thunberg https://mailchi.mp/newscientist.com/new-scientist-big-interview?e=e7500dc866