Claim: China says it’s already met 2020 climate goals

From AP Via The New York Post

By Associated Press

November 27, 2019

BEIJING — China has realized its 2020 target for reducing carbon emissions ahead of schedule, the ecology and environment ministry reported Wednesday.

The ministry said China’s CO2 emissions per unit of GDP had fallen last year by 4 percent from a year earlier to stand at 45.8 percent less than in 2005.

Vice Minister Zhao Yingmin told reporters that completed the target of CO2 reduction for 2020 ahead of schedule, while 14.3 percent of the energy China consumes now comes from non-fossil fuel sources.

“These are hard-won results from the efforts of promoting a green and low carbon economy,” Zhao said.

While becoming more efficient, China saw its annual carbon emissions nearly triple between 2000 and 2018 as the economy grew at a rapid pace. It has been the world’s biggest emitter since 2005 when it passed the US.

Yet China is also the leading market for solar panels, wind turbines and electric vehicles and the biggest manufacturer of solar cells.

Full article here.

HT/Willie Soon

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Steve
November 28, 2019 2:13 pm

“There are no Americans in Baghdad”

SMC
Reply to  Steve
November 28, 2019 5:13 pm

What? You mean Baghdad Bob was right all along? 🙂

Greg
November 28, 2019 2:14 pm

China has realized its 2020 target for reducing carbon emissions ahead of schedule, the ecology and environment ministry reported Wednesday.

Reducing emissions by increasing them, damned clever those Chinese.

Reply to  Greg
November 28, 2019 4:12 pm

Perfect!,

If emissions are expressed by fraction of GDP – why doesn’t the whole world listen?

Cheers
Roger

Bryan A
Reply to  Roger
November 28, 2019 10:01 pm

BIG WHOOP…the U.S. has already met China’s 2030 reduction goals in 2016

richard verney
Reply to  Roger
November 29, 2019 8:14 am

That is then point. CO2 emissions are a metric for economic activity, particularly industrial activity. Falling levels of CO2 emissions are an ominous sign suggesting that country’s economy is weakening.

China has achieved this goal, as a direct consequence of President’s Trump’s tariffs on China that has caused the Chinese economy to shrink.

President Trump should get the praise for this, but given the left bias of the MSM, they will forget to mention President Trump’s role in this achievement.

Latitude
Reply to  Greg
November 28, 2019 4:17 pm

China saw its annual carbon emissions nearly triple between 2000 and 2018..

It’s almost 5 times more…since the UN/IPCC said they could increase their emissions

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What kind of $c@m let’s people increase something toxic/poisonous…because they didn’t make enough money (GDP)…or have more people (per capita)

John Dilks
Reply to  Latitude
November 29, 2019 6:26 pm

Latitude,
“What kind of $c@m let’s people increase something toxic/poisonous…because they didn’t make enough money (GDP)…or have more people (per capita)”

It is a good thing that CO2 is neither toxic nor poisonous.

Kenji
Reply to  Greg
November 28, 2019 5:23 pm

Xi makes the trains run on time … and meets all the Co2 reductions promised to Jerry Brown.

He doesn’t have to care what “The People” think of it. Democracy is so messy, eh UN? Eh Xi?

Brian Steere
Reply to  Kenji
November 29, 2019 9:21 am

Where is it?
I see the mess – but where’s the democracy?

Reply to  Greg
November 28, 2019 9:11 pm

Greg
November 28, 2019 at 2:14 pm

About as meaningful as:

E = R × U = p × D × τ / T

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
November 29, 2019 4:16 am

yeah I ERUP(T)d laughing at that item and this one too;-))

Geo Rubik
Reply to  Greg
November 29, 2019 10:32 am

When you have no climate goals they are easy to reach.

Greg
November 28, 2019 2:19 pm

The ministry said China’s CO2 emissions per unit of GDP had fallen last year by 4 percent

getting more efficient at emitting more CO2. Waydago Xi.

Being more efficient is very sensible, of course this has nothing to do with “reducing” emissions since they are still climbing and nothing to do with climate. They do have a legitimate need to clean up their air but it’s not “dirty CO2” they are trying deal with.

Scissor
Reply to  Greg
November 28, 2019 3:09 pm

Inflate your currency, the easiest way to riches.

Katio1505
November 28, 2019 2:29 pm

Now, that’s how you spin a narrative!

ron
Reply to  Katio1505
November 28, 2019 5:51 pm

Unfortunately the IPCC will accept this declaration as a verification of China’s adherence to the terms of the Paris Climate Accord.
The rest of the worlds now needs to send them money to fulfill their commitment to the accord.

You can’t make this stuff up!

Brian Steere
Reply to  ron
November 29, 2019 9:24 am

China can regard itself as targeted by carbon-guilted global energy control. But all it is required to do is play along with the narrative – because the narrative is the technology of guilting populations into giving up their freedom of will to an Internment of Thinks.

Karabar
November 28, 2019 2:33 pm

The spinning wheel whirs round and round.

RobertM
November 28, 2019 2:34 pm

“War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength”

GeoNC
November 28, 2019 2:38 pm

Their emissions were reduced ahead of whose schedule? Theirs? And exactly what was that schedule? Hard to figure from that bit of propaganda.

commieBob
November 28, 2019 2:46 pm

China’s performance is very poor. When you look at CO2 emissions per dollar GDP, China rates 175 out of 178 nations. link Maybe they’re better than they used to be but they’re still much worse than average.

Chaswarnertoo
November 28, 2019 2:49 pm

The stupid round eyes won’t know any better.

November 28, 2019 2:51 pm

“China’s CO2 emissions per unit of GDP”

Per unit of GDP?

Pure genius!

Latitude
Reply to  Chaamjamal
November 28, 2019 4:09 pm

now if they will start having more kids…..they can reduce it ever more….per capita

Jeff Labute
November 28, 2019 3:03 pm

…. and Trump has reduced China’s GDP, so praise be to Trump for helping China meet their goals.

fred250
Reply to  Jeff Labute
November 28, 2019 3:56 pm

Trump, by continuing to allow gas to be extracted, and by putting a brake on Chinese exports and production, has almost certainly done far more to reduce world CO2 emissions than any increase in the use of wind or solar unreliables.

Luke
Reply to  fred250
November 28, 2019 8:29 pm

BINGO

BillP
November 28, 2019 3:06 pm

So their claimed GDP is rising faster than their claimed CO2 emissions, that might just be true.

The important point is that they are continuing to increase emissions of life giving CO2.

Harry Purvis
November 28, 2019 3:09 pm

China does not have a problem with Warming, but with Choking!

Carl Friis-Hansen
November 28, 2019 3:10 pm

Strange, I do not understand how china has been reducing CO₂ emissions, when comparing to graph from Larry Hamlin in WUWT post “Fossil fuels dominate global energy – Democrats try to conceal & suppress this reality”:
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Something must have been lost in translation.

Bulldust
Reply to  Carl Friis-Hansen
November 28, 2019 3:45 pm

Reduced missions intensity (i.e. CO2-e per unit of GDP). As long as GDP grows faster than CO2-e emissions then the emissions intensity drops, even if CO2-e emissions are increasing.

Carl Friis-Hansen
Reply to  Bulldust
November 28, 2019 11:56 pm

So the richer or the more productive we get, the less “harmful” the CO₂ is.
With that logic African states with tiny GDP should not dare to use any fossil fuel.

Human contributed CO₂ is harmful to the planet, therefore every country can contribute to save the Earth by increasing their GDP – makes sense. /SARC

Okay after my previous post, I realized China used CO₂ vs GDP, but thought that, that would be con-propaganda and under the ethic level of China and might have been some translation error.

Shoki Kaneda
November 28, 2019 3:29 pm

Wow! This climate stuff is easy when you can just fabricate numbers. Just ask Mann, NASA and NOAA.

Robert of Texas
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
November 28, 2019 4:57 pm

Hey, they work HARD at fabricating their numbers!

John Endicott
Reply to  Robert of Texas
November 29, 2019 6:33 am

fabricating the numbers is the easy part, any fool can do that. The hard part is presenting those fabrications in such a way as to fool the most people possible into believing those fabricated numbers actually mean anything. Making that hard part easier is a compliant media that will swallow the fabrications whole and then regurgitate it to the masses.

Bruce Cobb
November 28, 2019 3:35 pm

Since they have already met their 2020 goals, they will be given a special assignment – for extra credit, of course. Teacher’s pet.

John Robertson
November 28, 2019 3:40 pm

China is showing the UN how this kind of business is done.
And their claims are as real as anything the UN IPCC has thrown out there.
China:”We have met our commitments”
Cannot disagree as they never made any CO2 commitments,except to keep on upping their emissions until 2030.

BoyfromTottenham
Reply to  John Robertson
November 28, 2019 9:19 pm

John R – didn’t Chin, as a (self-declared Developing Country) make a commitment under the Paris Agreement (apparently endorsed by the IPCC or whatever) to keep reducing its ’emissions intensity’ until 2030? No mention of total emissions (as was expected of the developed countries), etc. This how we are getting screwed – we look at the rules of the game and abide by them at any cost, they look at the rules and figure out how to squeeze through the gaps at no cost. More fool us.

Steve
Reply to  John Robertson
November 29, 2019 12:25 am

Exactly. Garbage in, garbage out. While we destroy our economies to meet this total non-threat, the Chinese, Indians and Vietnamese plow on a full speed and fob off the eco-loons with false data. Good for them!

fred250
November 28, 2019 3:58 pm

Fact is, that when the Paris farce was spewed forth, China already had some 20% non-fossil-fuel energy supply.

Its called HYDRO !!

TRM
Reply to  fred250
November 28, 2019 4:39 pm

https://www.yangtzeriver.org/threegorges_dam/

Anyone up for a river cruise to see the largest renewable energy plant on the planet? Not only that but it does 24x7x365!!!

Now that’s my kind of engineering! I’ve always been impressed with dams.

By the way what would China rate for “renewables” if they used Commie-fornia’s definition that excludes hydro? Hmmmm?

November 28, 2019 4:06 pm

It’s not how many people vote for you, it’s who counts the votes.

Sunny
November 28, 2019 4:34 pm

Lol china is brilliant, they do what ever they want and laugh when people question them about all of the things they shouldn’t do… I’ve yet to read a single comment made by xr or vile greta about china/india/russia, or maybe she hasn’t said anything because china has met its goals Loll

n.n
November 28, 2019 4:36 pm

China has exceeded their commitment to beat straw clowns down before 2020.

November 28, 2019 4:41 pm

While I am usually a voluble guy, this latest declarations by the European Parliament and Chinese government stuns me into silence.

Ronald Bruce
November 28, 2019 4:42 pm

When your target is to continue to increase emissions for decades to come it is not hard to meet your targets.

William Astley
Reply to  Ronald Bruce
November 28, 2019 5:36 pm

It is worse.

A one party state can fudge the goals and fudge the measurements and cheat

… in creative ways as everyone is on board with the concept that the object is China wins and cheating is winning with the least effort/no effort…

And if they get caught, claim it is an American plot.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  William Astley
November 28, 2019 7:23 pm

As in ‘Nineteen Eighty-four’, the output of boots is given as 62 million but Winston working in the Ministry of Plenty marks down the figure to 57 million “… to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been over-fulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than 145 millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared …”.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  William Astley
November 29, 2019 4:19 am

this is about at truthful or close to reality as their finance and other figures are..
its whatever they want it to be,
not what it is
they are masters of creative accounting n stats

John Endicott
Reply to  ozspeaksup
November 29, 2019 6:28 am

Yeah, Hollywood, infamous for it’s creative accounting, is an amatuer compared to China when it comes to creative accounting and stats.

John F. Hultquist
November 28, 2019 4:55 pm

while 14.3 percent of the energy China consumes ??

electricity or total??

ATheoK
November 28, 2019 5:55 pm

“The ministry said China’s CO2 emissions per unit of GDP had fallen last year by 4 percent from a year earlier to stand at 45.8 percent less than in 2005.”

Standard practice for politicians, lobbyists, Alinskyites and marketing PR people.
When there is no chance to move forward, declare success and move on.

Jim M
November 28, 2019 7:43 pm

Good for China. They’ve just learned to play the game whose rules they didn’t write. If the UN can make meaningless goals then China and the rest of the world’s nations can make up meaningless proclamations for meeting those goals.

I actually love this, it’s the perfect answer to the UN’s madness.

yarpos
November 28, 2019 7:45 pm

I much prefer to watch what China does rather than listen to what China says.

John Boland
November 28, 2019 8:13 pm

”CO2 emissions per unit of GDP had fallen last year by 4 percent”
That sounds like a reasonable made up number, let’s go with that.

WXcycles
Reply to  John Boland
November 28, 2019 10:13 pm

CHICOM ‘GDP’ is a product of continuous stimulation injection and debt growth, and not a linear relationship with production. It’s just creative accounting, if they were serious they would be comparing CO2 emissions to energy consumption. But being a completely unaccountable totalitarian autocracy they’d just the fiddle the figures any which way they pleased (see BOM).

markl
November 28, 2019 9:17 pm

More propaganda. The people will figure this out if the internet doesn’t get gobbled up in the false and misleading narrative. If. I sometimes wonder if there’s a chance the truth will be realized. The truth in this case is when, not if, and if we’ll survive the consequences.

WXcycles
November 28, 2019 10:03 pm

“These are hard-won results from the efforts of promoting a green and low carbon economy,” Zhao said.
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“Promoting” a ‘green economy’ could not be more different from the anti-environmental brown-economy that China actually has, and intends to expand.

Rod Evans
November 29, 2019 12:10 am

I can relate to the Chinese statement, they are being very green by releasing more CO2 into the atmosphere every year. The correlation between green plant growth rates and increasing CO2 is well documented and well deployed by most greenhouse plant growers.
Go, Go, China, keep pumping that life giving essential into the atmosphere and enjoy the economic benefits it brings to China via increasing wealth and longevity.
Reducing pollution in cities is also a good policy decision, still some way to go on that one but nuclear energy and gas fired power plants should achieve that very quickly.
Energy is wealth, more is better than less.
As a famous sage once commented, I have been miserable and poor, I have been miserable and rich. Given the choice, I will take miserable and rich every time.

Daniel
November 29, 2019 12:53 am

Not only can they make CO2 disappear they can also make people vanish

HotScot
November 29, 2019 1:03 am

Don’t blame China for this. They’re not the bad guys here. All they’re doing is what the western world did since the industrial revolution began, lift it’s population from abject poverty.

The ones to blame are the IPCC and the UN in general for their screwed up policies and objectives. And of course their desire for a one world government.

WXcycles
Reply to  HotScot
November 29, 2019 4:33 am

How does a “one-world govt” even help anything? It won’t end war, revolt and civil war against bad govt is a thing, and we know govt is absolutely rubbish at everything it attempts to do. And that the very worst form of government is a huge bureaucratic central-govt, that operates remote from the area “governed”. It would be a complete disaster for humanity.

HotScot
Reply to  WXcycles
November 29, 2019 4:51 am

WXcycles

Agreed.

Editor
November 29, 2019 1:55 am

All economies become less energy intensive as they mature, because they tend to grow into services/consumer goods, which use much less energy

China knew this, which is why they set themselves such an easy target.

Meanwhile since 2005 China’s CO2 emissions have gone up from 6096 to 9419 Mt

Malcolm Chapman
November 29, 2019 4:39 am

Versions of this fairy tale have been circulating for a long time now. If somebody writes (in, say, the Guardian, or the Financial Times, or [ongoing tragedy] the Economist) that China’s carbon emissions are going down, it is easy enough for the casual reader to infer that that China’s carbon emissions are indeed going down [leaving aside for the moment the scientific illiteracy of using ‘carbon’ in this way]. The only thing that statements like this have ever meant, however, is that China’s carbon emissions are going down per unit of output. You have to know a little bit about economics, and technology, and national statistics, to work that out. Why should the honest reader have to make these calculations, before assessing journalism for truth or honesty?

ResourceGuy
November 29, 2019 5:17 am

For the non believers in the claim, there is a special dormitory for you in northwest China for re-education and Party training.

Tom Abbott
November 29, 2019 8:36 am

When China makes a claim that doesn’t seem to make sense, all you have to do is visit WUWT and read the comments on the subject to get the proper perspective.

WUWT shines “the Light of Truth” on all kinds of confusing stuff.

Not everyone is an expert in every subject, but at WUWT every subject has an expert commentator (sometimes, many experts). They make complicated, confusing things simple.

Zigmaster
November 29, 2019 1:32 pm

How do you say Pinocchio in Chinese.

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