Chris White Tech Reporter
September 05, 2019 12:45 AM ET
- CNN’s seven-hour climate town hall allowed ten of the top Democratic presidential candidates to flesh out their positions on climate change, with two of the front-runners expressing support for the Green New Deal.
- Mayor Peter Buttigieg suggested the Democrat’s fight against climate change could be more challenging than even World War II.
- Sen. Bernie Sanders offered a one-word reply when CNN asked him if he would reinstate bans on certain kinds of light bulbs.
The Democratic Party’s top presidential candidates took turns at CNN’s climate town hall Wednesday hashing out their positions on everything from banning plastic straws to eliminating fossil fuel production.
Businessman Andrew Yang, Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey and Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont all plan to plow trillions of dollars into climate change mitigation. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts meanwhile has staked much of her campaign on holding oil companies responsible for man-made global warming.
Wednesday’s town hall allowed ten of the top performing candidates to voice their positions on climate change and environmentalism. Here are seven of the most significant moments that happened during the event. (RELATED: Sen. Booker Reveals $3 Trillion Climate Plan)
1: Biden Applauds The Green New Deal
“I think the Green New Deal deserves an enormous amount of credit,” former Vice President Joe Biden told CNN’s Anderson Cooper before listing off what he considers to be the problems with the much-criticized idea to stop global warming.
He noted that “85 percent of the problem” (climate change) is coming from the rest of the world.
2. Harris Says She Would Ding The Filibuster To Implement The GND
“If [Republicans] fail to act, as president of the United States, I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a Green New Deal,” Sen. Kamala Harris of California said to audience applause.
Harris said Republicans should “look in the mirror and ask themselves why they failed to act,” calling the fight for the GND one “against powerful interests.” Democrats would need to win Senate control along with the presidency to have any hope of ending the longstanding tradition.
3. Yang Won’t Talk About Electric Cars
Yang skirted questions about whether every American will need to drive electric cars in the future. CNN’s Wolf Blitzer asked Yang why he would promise federal funds for “potentially risky” and experimental means of energy production.
“We’re here together because we can. This is a crisis. In a crisis, all solutions have to be on the table. If you were attacking on one side, you should be researching various alternatives on the other side. That to me is just responsible management and responsible leadership,” Yang explained.
4. Sanders’ One Word Answer To A Question About Light Bulbs
“The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?” CNN’s Cooper asked Sanders, who has described himself as a self-avowed democratic socialist.
The Vermont senator answered with one word: “Duh.” Sanders’ comment came several hours after the Trump administration announced new rules Wednesday rolling back requirements for energy-saving light bulbs.
WATCH:
Anderson Cooper: “The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?”
Sen. Bernie Sanders: “Duh!” #ClimateTownHall
Anderson Cooper: "The Trump administration announced plans to overturn requirements on energy-saving lightbulbs. … Would you reinstate those requirements?"
Sen. Bernie Sanders: "Duh!" #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/uahYYnCcGW pic.twitter.com/yIzLPvocCZ
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
5. O’Rourke Wants To Bring The U.S. Back Into The Paris Climate Accord
Former Rep. Beto O’Rourke promised that he would re-enter the Paris agreement on “day-one” of his presidency. The Texas Democrat announced his climate plan in April, which will cost $5 trillion over 10 years to build out renewable energy and infrastructure, among a host of other pet projects.
6. Klobuchar Says No To New Coal Power Plants
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.” Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar said in answer to a question about ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to “carbon neutral by 2050.”
WATCH:
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.” – Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar on ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to “carbon neutral by 2050.” #ClimateTownHall
"I wouldn't allow for building of new coal plants." – Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar on ending fossil fuel use and her hope to get to "carbon neutral by 2050." #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/L0oMqeJkll pic.twitter.com/ztycMSuxVo
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
— CNN (@CNN) September 5, 2019
7. Buttigieg Likens Climate Fight To WWII
“This is the hardest thing we will have done — certainly in my lifetime. This is on par with winning World War II. Perhaps, even more challenging than that,” Mayor Peter Bugiegieg told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.
WATCH:
Pete Buttigieg: Combatting climate could be “more challenging than” winning World War II #ClimateTownHall
Pete Buttigieg: Combatting climate could be "more challenging than" winning World War II #ClimateTownHall https://t.co/Eb6GJlDCDU pic.twitter.com/U4Y9yM5EaU
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 5, 2019
— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 5, 2019
High level babbling, low lever thinking, equals dead on arrival.
FYI Ladies and Gentlemen:
The global warming / climate change scam has NO scientific credibility – this false hypothesis was disproved decades ago by many credible scientific observations, which concluded that climate is NOT highly sensitive to increasing atmospheric CO2.
So what is really happening? Why have we been bombarded for decades with unscientific propaganda about a false climate crisis?
My hypothesis is that nobody could be this scientifically wrong, this incredibly stupid, for this long – they must have a covert agenda.
I continue to assemble evidence of that covert agenda, which is the totalitarian socialist control of Western society and the end of democracy.
This hypothesis is not at all improbable – more than half the world’s population already live in totalitarian “socialist” dictatorships, which are really more like absolute monarchies / oligarchies.
The following is just some of my evidence from the USA and the UK – more to follow:
The extreme-left political agenda was recently revealed by Saikat Chakrabarti, chief of staff for Democratic New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who said:
“Changing the Entire Economy”, The Wall Street Journal, July 12, 2019
https://www.wsj.com/articles/notable-quotable-changing-the-entire-economy-11562970210
“The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all, … Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,”
The same plot is unfolding in Great Britain. Prof Sir Ian Boyd, the government’s chief environment scientist, said the public had little idea of the scale of the challenge from the so-called Net Zero CO2 emissions target.
“Climate change: Big lifestyle changes ‘needed to cut emissions’ – DEFRA Chief Scientist”, BBC News, August 29, 2019
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49499521
[excerpts]
“People must use less transport, eat less red meat and buy fewer clothes if the UK is to virtually halt greenhouse gas emissions by 2050, the government’s chief environment scientist has warned.
Sir Ian Boyd has lifted the lid on the reality of the programme. We will all have to accept big lifestyle changes – travel less, eat less, consume less.
But eventually some form of compulsion or rationing will be necessary, if climate targets are to be met.
The Science and Technology Select Committee let the cat out of the bag last week, when they officially announced “In the long-term, widespread personal vehicle ownership does not appear to be compatible with significant decarbonisation”. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49425402
When they ultimately find themselves being told what they can and cannot consume, where they can travel and what foods they are allowed to eat, they will be furious about the way they have been misled.”
Regards, Allan
Recent publications:
September 1, 2019
THE NEXT GREAT EXTINCTION EVENT WILL NOT BE GLOBAL WARMING – IT WILL BE GLOBAL COOLING
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/09/01/the-next-great-extinction-event-will-not-be-global-warming-it-will-be-global-cooling/
July 20, 2019
WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS REALLY ABOUT — AND IT’S NOT THE CLIMATE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/
July 04, 2019
THE COST TO SOCIETY OF RADICAL ENVIRONMENTALISM
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/04/the-cost-to-society-of-radical-environmentalism/
June 15, 2019
CO2, GLOBAL WARMING, CLIMATE AND ENERGY
by Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/06/15/co2-global-warming-climate-and-energy-2/
May 25, 2019
SCIENCE’S UNTOLD SCANDAL: THE LOCKSTEP MARCH OF PROFESSIONAL SOCIETIES TO PROMOTE THE CLIMATE CHANGE SCARE
By Tom Harris and Dr. Jay Lehr
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/05/25/sciences-untold-scandal-the-lockstep-march-of-professional-societies-to-promote-the-climate-change-scare/
April 14, 2019
HYPOTHESIS: RADICAL GREENS ARE THE GREAT KILLERS OF OUR AGE
By Allan M.R. MacRae, B.A.Sc., M.Eng.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/04/14/hypothesis-radical-greens-are-the-great-killers-of-our-age/
We are probably in the beginning of a 30-year Grand Solar Minimum. That means very shortly now, the world will begin manifestly cooling and it will be impossible to refute the fact that CO2 plays little to no role. That’s why the Bilderburg types are shrieking and howling “CRISIS!!!” now, because they’ve got very little time left to hoodwink the public into self-impoverishment, even self-chosen voluntary extinction in the name of “the environment.” They act more like an insane doomsday cult every day.
If Hillary had gotten in, globalist vassalage to The Elite would have been a done deal; all the groundwork was laid. Trump’s surprise election upset their long-game plan and now, like yellow jackets swarming as they sense the approach of frost, they’re lashing out in maddened frustration.
Hi Goldrider,
Several well-informed people on this blog will say the Sun is not approaching a Grand Solar Minimum (GSM) – I have no opinion because I have not studied it in detail.
Let’s discuss your hypothesis without assuming that a full GSM is imminent. The conclusions are much the same – the only question is “how much global cooling?”
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
We do know that the Sun is at the end Solar Cycle 24 (SC24), the weakest since the Dalton Minimum (circa 1800), and SC25 is also expected to be weak. We also know that both the Dalton Minimum and the Maunder Minimum (circa 1700) were very cold periods that caused considerable human suffering.
I wrote in an article published 1Sept2002 in the Calgary Herald that stated:
“If [as we believe] solar activity is the main driver of surface temperature rather than CO2, we should begin the next cooling period by 2020 to 2030.”
That prediction was based of the end of the Gleissberg Cycle of ~80-90 years, dated from 1940, the beginning of the previous global cooling period from ~1940 to 1977.
“Kyoto Hot Air Can’t Replace Fossil Fuels”
Calgary Herald, September 1, 2002, by Allan M.R. MacRae
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/01/10/polar-sea-ice-changes-are-having-a-net-cooling-effect-on-the-climate/#comment-63579
In 2003 Theodor Landscheidt’s published his famous prediction of global cooling, in which he wrote:
“… it can be seen that the Gleissberg minimum around 2030 and another one around 2200 will be of the Maunder minimum type accompanied by severe cooling on Earth.”
Within the timing accuracy of such predictions, we are essentially saying the same thing, although Landscheidt is predicting more severe cooling.
“New Little ICE Age Instead of Global Warming?”
Theodor Landscheidt First Published May 1, 2003
Energy & Environment
https://doi.org/10.1260/095830503765184646
“Abstract
Analysis of the sun’s varying activity in the last two millennia indicates that contrary to the IPCC’s speculation about man-made global warming as high as 5.8°C within the next hundred years, a long period of cool climate with its coldest phase around 2030 is to be expected. It is shown that minima in the secular Gleissberg cycle of solar activity, coinciding with periods of cool climate on Earth, are consistently linked to an 83-year cycle in the change of the rotary force driving the sun’s oscillatory motion about the centre of mass of the solar system. As the future course of this cycle and its amplitudes can be computed, it can be seen that the Gleissberg minimum around 2030 and another one around 2200 will be of the Maunder minimum type accompanied by severe cooling on Earth. This forecast should prove ‘skillful’ as other long-range forecasts of climate phenomena, based on cycles in the sun’s orbital motion, have turned out correct, as for instance the prediction of the last three El Niños years before the respective event.”
DISCUSSION AND CONCLUSION:
You wrote in full:
“We are probably in the beginning of a 30-year Grand Solar Minimum. That means very shortly now, the world will begin manifestly cooling and it will be impossible to refute the fact that CO2 plays little to no role. That’s why the Bilderburg types are shrieking and howling “CRISIS!!!” now, because they’ve got very little time left to hoodwink the public into self-impoverishment, even self-chosen voluntary extinction in the name of “the environment.” They act more like an insane doomsday cult every day.
If Hillary had gotten in, globalist vassalage to The Elite would have been a done deal; all the groundwork was laid. Trump’s surprise election upset their long-game plan and now, like yellow jackets swarming as they sense the approach of frost, they’re lashing out in maddened frustration.”
Apart from the reference to a GSM, I think your hypo is valid – there is no question that global warming alarmism is not only false, it is fraudulent, as evidenced by the Climategate emails, the Mann hockey stick (MBH98 and subsequent papers) and rational scientific analysis.
The global warming alarmists use Goebbels tactics, later adapted by Saul Alinsky in “Rules for Radicals (1971), to stampede the gullible public.
http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
Rules for Radicals
1. “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”
2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”
3. “Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”
7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
8. “Keep the pressure on.”
9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”
10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”
11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside.”
12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
13. “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
Rule 7 states: “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”
That rule explains the frequent changes in the name of the false crisis – from global warming to climate change to sustainability to climate crisis to extinction – I may have missed a few others. Keep it new and exciting for the sheep – mustn’t let them get bored.
Rule 13 states: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
That explains the vicious hostility that warmists display towards anyone who dares disagree with their falsehoods, and the blatant old lie “The science is settled”.
Alinsky’s rules closely describe the propaganda strategy of the global warming scam, and it has been executed with precision, with huge covert funding from extreme leftist sources.
One further point:
The scenario you describe, of significant global cooling even as fossil fuel combustion continues, has already happened, from ~1940 to 1977, a period when fossil fuel combustion rapidly accelerated and atmospheric temperature cooled – that observation was sufficient to disprove the global warming fraud many decades ago.
I wonder what the beginning of global cooling period will look like:
Maybe a cold weather delay of one month in the planting of the huge Midwest North American grain crop? Oh – that happened for the past two years!
Maybe a cold-and-wet weather situation such that ~30% of the huge USA corn crop did not even get planted, because the ground was too wet for farm equipment ? Oh – that happened this year!
Regards, Allan
There will be a ban on condoms and pesars?
Probably the most intelligent thing to come out of all of CNN’s seven-hour climate town hall gabfest was when Senator Bernie Sanders said “Duh!”
You have to admit, Comrade Sanders brings a certain level of verbal dignity to proceedings.
If all this goes bad for him then at least we have his speaking tours to look forward to.
(unless of course the horrible rumours are true and Comrade Sanders IS actually secretly colluding with the Valley Girls to steal the Democratic Nomination. I mean, like, yeah, totally.)
Seldom do so many (leaders) have so little to offer. The IQ summation here was so small. I doubt that together they could pass a 6th grade science or history test.
I believe the use of the word “intelligent” to describe that event, implies a quality that the event and participants lack, entirely.
I suggest the sentence would be slightly more apt as “Probably the least idiotic thing to come out”.
Of course, similar phrases will suffice, e.g.;
“least absurd”,
“least mental”,
“least destructive”,
“least anti-civilization”, et. etc.
Sanders is being quoted as saying that population control is going to be a necessary feature of climate control.
These people should move to China where all these ideas have been implemented. Not to say they worked or were effective, but at last they can live under the regimen they advocate for a while and see how it goes. Nothing like a little “population control” and “gender selection” to set things straight, right?
Will they go and live under the rules they advocate for others” as an example of leadership?
“Duh!”
Sanders has given us a video clip that is priceless! It could become the most used of all in the Repub campaign and more generally.
Didn’t he say Да?
Meanwhile UK politics – the Labour Party – avid supporters of the same Climate Crisis! movement have an outing on Twitter
tomo
LOL.
Yesterdays Daily Telegraph’s Matt cartoon summed it up beautifully with a picture of one of those hoarding trucks saying
“VOTE LABOUR”
but not just yet
James Bull
The best resuable straws: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10219685010786106&set=pb.1542406206.-2207520000.1567734367.&type=3&theater
At least Biden realized that USA going it alone is all for naught.
From an electronics point of view, GND has no potential.
I’m shocked! How dare you say that.
Positively electrifying.
As a Republican and climate realist, I loved every minute of their inane babble. The main problem for Republicans – over confidence.
Read any Archeological report (they are scientists too!) about the evolution of Paleo peoples throughout the Northern Hemisphere and they will spell out the variability of their habits and upgrading of their technology over time due to ….get this…Climate Change!!!!!! They even mention it by name.
So did these individuals who went from rudimentary weaponry to high tech arrowheads 40 K to 13K years ago single handily change the planet since the almost 2 mile thick glaciers that once covered substantial amounts of the North American and Eurasian continents???
Wouldn’t it be racist to blame Native Americans and their ancestors for ridding the Northern section of the USA and almost all of Canada of the barren snow and icescape???
The left plays stupid games and will always “win” stupid prizes!
I have one word for all the “presidential” democratic candidates: Booooooorrrrrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnnnggggg….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……
Biden said the U.S. military considered Climate Change to be the biggest threat to the United States.
Some Obama appointees may look at things that way but no competent general officer would make that claim because it is obviously false.
I wonder what retired General Mattis opinion on this would be? He might say it needs looking into, but that’s about as far as a reasonable man can go, and there’s no way Mattis would say climate change is the biggest danger the U.S. faces.
Human-caused climate change has never been shown to exist, so if you say something that doesn’t exist is the greatest danger to the U.S. then that makes you a delusional person.
I wonder what the Chinese and the Russians and the North Koreans and the Mad Mullahs think when the look at these fool Democrats? They must be hoping, and in some cases praying, that one of them can beat Trump. They would much rather deal with the Democrat fools than with Trump. A Democrat victory would be a victory for worldwide totalitarianism.
The military was ordered to do studies.
The military did the studies.
Liberals now use the fact that the military cared enough to do studies as proof that the military thinks this is a problem.
I listened to the full seven hours, which was not a pleasnt task.
Elizabeth Warren had the most “reasonable” plan to save the world. She included nuclear power as part of her plan. I believe most, if not all the others rejected nuclear as an option.
All of the plans to save the world from CAGW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming), including Warren’s plan, were very light on the details. For most of them it all boiled down to: We need more windmills and solar, and trust us, we know what we are doing.
Reasonable??? Eeekkkk!!!
Warren wants to:
1) Ban all fossil fuels, oil, coal, natural gas.
2) Rip out all the FF infrastructure, so the industry can not be restarted.
3) Round up and imprison everybody associated with the management of the industry in any way. Presumably including all the investors as well (except her friends, of course).
I think you are still in shock from the trauma of the ordeal. Try to take it easy for a day or so, and you should start feeling better and stronger. I am sure that the effects of the experience will wear off and no permanent damage was done. But do try to be more careful next time.
“I think you are still in shock from the trauma of the ordeal. Try to take it easy for a day or so, and you should start feeling better and stronger. “….
Watch a live Trump rally…that will set your head back to normal ! : )
Bingo, TonyL!
“Reasonable??? Eeekkkk!!!”
I did put reasonable in quotes. 🙂 And only because she did include nuclear power in her plan. As you point out, the rest of her plan is garbage.
This one went around a while ago:
What did socialists use before candles?
Electricity.
To hear the Dem candidates tell it, if anyone of them were elected, hurricanes, floods, droughts, polar vortexes, wildfires, and even bad weather would be a thing of the past! They can even promise perfect weather for your granddaughter’s wedding 5 years from now. Whew! What a relief.
I’m sure it would be closer to 50 years from now. They can’t say anything that could be proven.
You forgot sea level rise. Oh, wait, the seas stopped rising on 20 January 2009. I forgot. Never mind …
Score one for Bugiegieg, sort of…. As contemplated by the Green New Deal, the costs would be more (much much more) than the costs of winning WW2! And the hardships (by today’s standards) much much worse.
Fortunately for him, not too many people alive actually remember what the cost of WW2 was and how it affected life in the US.
Fighting WWII brought us out of the Great Depression. The GND would put us in another Great Depression by destroying our manufacturing, agriculture, and economy.
“Fighting WWII brought us out of the Great Depression.”
No it didn’t. Getting rid of all of FDR’s economy breaking regulations so that industry could gear up for WWII got us out of the depression.
Stuart Lynne
The UK only just finished paying the US back for the lend/lease scheme about 5 years ago.
I thought the U.K. finished repaying the lend-lease debt to the U.S. before 2000? Regardless, it was a h*** of a long time after they received those goods!
Fortunately in the “war against climate change” there will never be a “Pearl Harbor” because there is no “enemy” attacking us. We may never mobilize.
As I recall when Oceania was at perpetual war with Eurasia and Eastasia, no one was ever actually returning with eye witness accounts from the “front” either.
Keep it existential, and incontestable…that’s the ticket!
I venture to say that unless the Democrats can select a presidential candidate who is decidedly not a climate alarmist, the Republican candidate (whoever he/she may be!!) will win the Presidency
I decided that the DNC will let those current POTUS candidates fight it out thru the Primary ….. but will select a currently “unknown” (NON-climate alarmist) Candidate for POTUS when they hold the 2020 Democratic National Convention on July 13–16, 2020, at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Samuel C Cogar, replying to Andy Epersen
Yes, yes. The Milwaukee Miracle! The salvation coming in from the wings! (On the third ballot, just for more dramatic evening television for their chosen profits in ABCNNBCBS). The “performer”? Oprah – Already a TV star with thousands of hours of “free untainted publicity” to counter Trump’s “reality TV” showmanship? The proven old horse (er, candidate) who was wronged before by that deranged old white man? (Hillary, of course – who then would have to show up medically fit and sober in 8 months of previous actual campaigning exposure.)
I fear for our country. These dangerous lunatics will plunge us into extreme poverty and the millennials are buying into this garbage. Sadly, Trumps re-election will not be the end of this.
The indoctrinated will never let this go, not until they freeze to death in the next ice age.
Every member of Congress receives a copy of the Constitution, and yet several senators think the presidency has dictatorial powers. One even thinks she can alter the rules of the Senate by executive action to force passage of environmental laws. She didn’t say how she plans to force senators to vote for them. The whole “show” was so outrageous, even the Monty Python group couldn’t have written the script. None of these people are qualified for the elected offices they now hold, much less the presidency.
“None of these people are qualified for the elected offices they now hold, much less the presidency.”
I agree. The United States and the Western Democracies would be in Big Trouble if one of these Democrat/Socialist fools were elected president.
You were referring to Amy Klobuchar, when you said one candidate proposed to do away with the Senate Filibuster rule. As president she would have no power to do this. That is strictly up to the U.S. Senate. You would think a U.S. Senator like Amy Klobuchar would know that. Amy Klobuchar should not receive even one vote. She is a pleasant personality, but she is also clueless, which should disqualify her for the presidency.
No need to worry because none of those “Democrat/Socialist fools will be elected president” …. simply because none of them will be on the Democrat “ballot” for the General Election.
A new Candidate will be chosen at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.
“A new Candidate will be chosen at the 2020 Democratic National Convention.”
That could happen but I don’t know of any Democrat that could fill that bill successfully. All the reasonable ones will be rejected by the socialist base, so any outsider picked is going to be just as hampered by the “socialist” label as any of the present presidential candidates.
The Democrats have nothing to offer. Other than hate, anger and division.
“hate, anger and division” Hillary’s trifecta! She is a shoe in!
You are correct, and her name will be Hillary.
Tom,
It was Harris that was promising to get rid of the Senate filibuster rule. Otherwise I agree with you that Klobuchar is quite ignorant on a wide range of subjects. I’m embarrassed that she represents my state, but in my defense, she was elected on the power of the vote in and around Minneapolis, having no support outside the city.
“It was Harris that was promising to get rid of the Senate filibuster rule.”
I realized my mistake when I read Joel’s post below. It was a long seven hours.
Kammie Harris was quoted saying, (As President) “I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a Green New Deal,”
As a Senator herself, she knows that is a Big Fat Lie, and everyone there in audience should have known she was lying her ass off for politcal points with the ignorant viewers.
It’s a basic Separation of Powers she lied about. And she must know she was lying, and the Moderator let her get away with it.
The President has zero authority to direct the operating rules of the Congress internal deliberations.
But when your opponent is scaring off independent voters, and scaring even Democratic voters who cherish their jobs and cheap gas, let’s not interfere with this clown car of self-destruction called the DNC and their socialistic bent.
At any rate, I fully believe at this point, Elizabeth Warren will be the DNC nominee come June 2020.
“As a Senator herself, she knows that is a Big Fat Lie”
Maybe not. Maybe she remembers the previous occupant of that office.
“A stroke of the pen, the law of the land. Kind of cool, huh.”
Remember that one? And then when Congress was reluctant to do his bidding, we got this.
“I have a pen, and I have a phone.”
What would Congress do? Consider:
A) Democrats + RINOs = Majority. Both the House and, especially, the Senate roll over and play dead. As they did before.
B) The Courts can not / will not intervene.
Now who is to stop the president from doing whatever they want.
The Supreme Court crushed Pres Obama’s attempt to declare Congress “in recess” in order to make recess appointments. Obama declared Congress in recess by his own definition, contrary to the Rule the Senate had adopted on recess. SCOTUS rejected Obama with a 9-0 unanimous slap-down.
Obama lost unanimously trying to dictate Congress’s internal affairs. Simple Separation of Powers.
So would a Miss Prez Kammi trying to declare the Senate filibuster rule void. Only the Senate majority can make that call. She knows that. But She lied anyway. A typical Democrat lie to deceive her utterly ignorant base of supporters/voters.
Ms Kammi though has zero chance of getting the DNC prez nomination anyway.
It’s merely an academic point I make that she blatantly lied and the moderator didn’t care one bit to correct her.
“At any rate, I fully believe at this point, Elizabeth Warren will be the DNC nominee come June 2020.”
That would be about right: A proven liar representing the Democrat Party. What could be more approriate.
The dems have apparently assured they will not be in the W.H. for a great many years. Good on them.
Off topic:
Peter Ridd awarded $A1.2 million in damages.
Martin Clark
Excellent news!
Question CNN failed to ask (and the question ALL ‘journalists’ fail to ask): “Given that your plan to tackle human-caused global warming will cost $x trillion, and assuming that your plan was completely and successfully implemented, what would be the reduction in the global average temperature?”
Bernis Sanders replied, “Duh!”
These candidates live in a phony make believe world disconnected from reality.
Their absurd claims and concerns about energy and climate issues are simply bazaar.
The world’s developing nations now completely dominate and control global energy and emissions
outcomes.
Nothing these ridiculous people propose or believe in changes this reality.
Their phony energy and climate “war” has been lost and only they and their ignorant media supporters fail to comprehend and acknowledge this conclusion.
Larry,
This Democrat clown car is talking to their Base of ignorant voters. They are not talking to you and me.
Let’s not interfere. Let them go “Full Retard.” The more retard they go, the better. Let them nominate a “beyond Full Retard” candidate to oppose Trump.
Then whoever is their nominee is in July 2020 can’t run from their own words in the General election.
Winning the most votes during the Democrat Primaries only means that “you might be chosen” as the Democrat POTUS Candidate in the General Election. It is not a per se “shoe-in”, because, to wit:
“These candidates live in a phony make believe world disconnected from reality.”
The radical leftists live on a differnt planet. A very scary planet from the way they descibe it.
The Democrats are living in a false reality created by their leaders and by the Leftwing News Media as a mean to their gaining political power.
I still think either Oprah or Howard Schultz will be the last minute candidate for the left. The current group of losers have no chance in he11.
99.66% of Americans didn’t watch this. That’s the real consensus on climate change.
So nothing will change? They will make us use energy saving light bulbs, and the oil companies will be taxed, Oh, and trillion, upon Trillions of dollars will be added on to the national debt, which is already 22+ trillion.. No nuclear plants, more land used for solar and bird killing fans, and the weather will be the same, but because they will bot be scaring us any more, we will believe that its all normal again?
I think you pretty much understand it now.
Wow, must be the largest gathering of intellectual black holes ‘talking’…
//TJ
“I wouldn’t allow for building of new coal plants.”
But then nobody is building new coal plants in the USA
Nor are they likely to in the future: coal plants are still closing across the USA
Two in PA are being built right now, three which were idled have been brought back on line. You lose, yet again.
Like his claims about arctic sea ice, being wrong won’t stop him from continuing to make the same claims.
griff is fully convinced that any trend that he likes, will never change.
Coal plants are closing because at present natural gas is cheap. That won’t last forever. The mere fact that coal plants are closing is going to make the price of natural gas more expensive.
Having missed the seven hour Democrat rant on climate change. I have to rely solely on reports from those who had to suffer the numbing experience. From those reports (CNN mostly) It is clear, honesty no longer features in the skill set of Democrat Presidential candidates.
It would have been acceptable, if they were just guilty of ignorance. That is a condition we all start out with in life. Some of us, manage to reduce our innate ignorance as life goes along, maybe Democrats are less fortunate? The real issue here is, these Democrat candidates must know, what they are saying about man made global warming/climate change is both wrong and physically impossible. But no matter. They prefer to adopt the posture of a virtue signaller, rather than being factual and honest, purely for electoral advantage purposes. They want to reduce understanding, and they want to block the honest truth.
The other feature of the gathering that stands out, is they have all been told to say the same thing, but just add a little personalisation. Joe Biden clearly went a bit far with that. The overall policy instruction was clear. Make sure you tell people it is a crisis, no make that a global crisis! I guess it is easier to justify increasing taxes to solve a crisis….and of course a global crisis allows for global taxes.
“Town hall” meetings are OPEN TO THE PUBLIC…
When you hand pick each individual audience member, that is NOT a “town hall” meeting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_hall_meeting
“Town hall meetings, also referred to as town halls or town hall forums, are a way for local and national politicians to meet with their constituents, either to hear from them on topics of interest or to discuss specific upcoming legislation or regulation.”
I guess CNN was too chicken to hear what people might actually want…
““Town hall” meetings are OPEN TO THE PUBLIC…
When you hand pick each individual audience member, that is NOT a “town hall” meeting.”
That would be more properly described as a propaganda session. No skeptic thoughts allowed or tolerated.
One side of the story only.
Jerusalem
TEXT Hubert Parry
And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England’s mountains green?
And has the holy Lamb of God
Old England’s pleasent pastures seen?
And did the countenance divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among those dark satanic mills?
Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear: o clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariots of fire!
I will not cease from mental fight;
Nor will my sword ever sheath
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land.
source: Musixmatch
Songwriter: E. Elgar / Sir Hubert Parry
Songtext von Jerusalem © Word Music LLC, S.I.A.E. Direzione Generale, Crml Limited, Carlin Recorded Music Library Ltd., Music Sales Corp. O/B/o Leadchoice Ltd., Warner Bros Music A Div Of Warner Bros Inc., COPYRIGHT CONTROL (NON-HFA), MECHANICAL COPYRIGHT PROTECTION SOCIETY LTD, SONY/ATV SOUNDS LLC OBO STONEBRIDGE MUSIC, G. SCHIRMER, INC. O/B/O NOVELLO & COMPANY LTD., UNIVERSAL-POLYGRAM INT’L OBO UNIVERSAL CLASSICS AND JAZZ, G. SCHIRMER, INC. OBO J. CURWEN & SONS LTD., J. CURWEN & SONS, LTD. (G. SCHIRMER SOLE SELLING AGT), SONY/ATV TUNES LLC OBO JEFF COHEN MUSIC PUBLISHING, BUG MUSIC LTD. OBO DUNE MUSIC PUBLISHING
Parry? No.
William Blake!
And THIS is William Blake:
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-huawei&sxsrf=ACYBGNRYb1i58Zpv7EPLd_K-wu7sEgTU2g%3A1567874314006&ei=Ct1zXb0F56muBMLntNgH&q=william+blake+Jerusalem+poetry&oq=william+blake+Jerusalem+poetry&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.
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The difference is –
Blake = poetry, Perry = lyrics.
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Learn to differentiate, Anonymous in Alabama!
“Banning Plastic Straws”
For a moment, I thought it was “Burning Plastic Straws”. Well, it would provide some energy when the wind isn’t blowing.
It is great to see the Dems continuing the Climate Retardification™ of the Dimocrat Party. Never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake. They aren’t just the enemy of Republicans either. They are the enemy of democracy and of the US itself, and thus, traitors.
more bullshit in that room than on a cattle drive!
I’m glad I don’t have a TV to watch. I’d have cracked a rib or sprained something if I’d watched that gathering of the Smarmiest Clowns Ever.
At least they are not shy about what they say and how they want to destroy a stable, thriving economy. We have to know about them and all the crap they want to pull, so that we can vote them OUT.
This has nearly become the equivalent of a massive boil that itches and gets bigger and drives you nuts. It’s nice to know that these people don’t live in the Real World.
Funny how people who are incapable of running a small convenience store think they can be President.
For a minute there, I thought it said “Climate Clown Hall”.
Only Booker displayed some intelligence – he claimed the need for nuclear power and even gave an abbreviated reference to the next generation of nuclear technology – molten salt small moduler reactors that are inherently cheap, safe and have a minimal environmental footprint and can load follow , eliminating most of the need for peak level generators. At a levelized cost of production at 4 cents per kWhr, these reactors are going to replace all of the renewable crap and the U’S. could achieve zero carbon generation emissions and also power an entire fleet of electric cars for less than a $trillion dollars. Russia, India and China are scrambling to deploy this new nuclear technology. If the U.S. continues sinking money into solar/wind. we will not be competitive in manufacturing, which is what happened to Germany when they went hog wild for solar/wind.
My favorite of the night was Bernie proclaiming his support for mass, forced abortions in 3rd world countries. Please, PLEASE keep talking, let the entire world know exactly what you are thinking!
While Bernie might not know it, most of the world’s most populous countries have fertility rates below replacement, ie ~2.1 children per woman. Of 191 states on the list linked below, 88 are under replacement and many near it. The only continent on which every country is above replacement is Africa, often far exceeding that rate.
Many non-African states with high fertility rates are Muslim majority or have large Islamic minorities, as in the Christian-majority Phillipines or Hindu-majority India, whose overall rate isn’t very high. Other Muslim states are below replacement.
No wonder Bernie remains less popular among black than white Democrat voters. He wants to abort African and Muslim babies.
Niger tops the list at 7.153 children per woman. Forty-one countries on the continent top 3.00. The African country with the fertility rate closest to replacement, at 2.147, is Tunisia, Muslim but more Westernized than most.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/total-fertility-rate/
The highest non-African countries are Christian East Timor and Muslim Afghanistan, at #28.
The developed world and much of the developing world are below replacement. Here’s how fertility rates break down for the largest 14 countries, ie those with over 100 million people:
1. China 1.635
2. India 2.303
3. USA 1.886
4. Indonesia 2.32
5. Pakistan 3.377
6. Brazil 1.705
7. Nigeria 5.417
8. Bangladesh 2.067
9. Russia 1.751
10. Mexico 2.136
11. Japan 1.478
12. Ethiopia 4.025
13. Philippines 2.882
14. Egypt 3.155
These countries contain about 60% of Earth’s people.
Much of Europe and developed Asia are going out of the baby business. Here are the least fertile ten countries:
181 Macau 1.347
182 Cyprus 1.337
183 Hong Kong 1.326
184 South Korea 1.323
185 Greece 1.302
186 Poland 1.29
187 Singapore 1.26
188 Portugal 1.241
189 Moldova 1.23
190 Taiwan 1.218
Educating girls and empowering women help, but demographic transition requires increasing infant survival rates, so that parents don’t need seven kids to ensure that two will reach maturity to care for them. Thus the solution to economically and environmentally unsustainable population growth is to improve people’s lives, which requires fossil fuels and products made from and with hydrocarbons.
Education of Muslim girls in India:
https://www.telegraphindia.com/opinion/drop-in-fertility-rate-among-indian-muslims-and-the-impact-of-girls-education/cid/1691530
This “debate” (there wasn’t any debate) is somewhat like a redo of “A Clockwork Orange”:
https://youtu.be/ZvK9PEcqiLo
Harris believes that the president has the power to get rid of the fillibuster?????
Nothing presidential in that lot nor anything journalistic in CNN.
So much trash to take out, where to start?
Biden is correct when he says that 85% of the problem is the rest of the world. But even if the USA eliminated all its CO2 emissions, it wouldn’t make much difference, because energy-consuming industries would simply move to China and India (for cheaper energy), taking good jobs with them.
Even if Harris did eliminate the filibuster (with a Democrat Senate majority) it wouldn’t get the Green New Deal passed. Obama tried to pass a CO2 cap-and-trade bill in 2010 when Democrats had 60 Senators, but enough coal-state Democrats voted against it that it didn’t even get 50 votes in the Senate. In today’s Senate, Manchin (D-WV), Casey (D-PA), Brown (D-OH), Warner (D-VA) and Tester (D-MT) would most likely vote against the Green New Deal, as well as all the Republicans.
Sanders’ “Duh” pretty much sums up his answer to many questions, insulting the intelligence of his audience. Light bulbs only use a small fraction of the electricity consumed by the average home, with air conditioning, electric stoves, and clothes dryers using the lion’s share. Relaxing the requirements on light bulbs won’t increase consumption very much, because the new LED bulbs available in most areas of the country produce more light for less energy consumption (and also last longer) than the old incandescent (Thomas Edison) bulbs, so consumers tend to prefer them. Let the free market decide!
Robert Francis O’Rourke wants to re-enter the Paris accord, which imposed strict requirements on North America and Europe, and no restrictions on the largest CO2 emitters, China and India. Besides, the USA has reduced its CO2 emissions more than any other nation, largely due to replacing electricity from coal-fired plants by natural-gas-fired plants (which emit about half the CO2 per megawatt as coal-fired plants). This is due to the increased natural gas production from fracking, which the Democrats want to restrict. Duh?
Amy Klobuchar’s wanting to ban coal-fired power plants won’t go over well in states that have many of them, and trying to get rid of all fossil-fuels (including natural gas and oil) would leave a huge energy gap, to be filled by what? Even if vehicles with gasoline or Diesel engines were replaced by electric vehicles, where does the electricity come from to charge them? Electric vehicles do not reduce CO2 emissions, they just move them from the vehicle to the nearest power plant, unless it’s a nuclear reactor. Good luck trying to recharge your electric car at night using solar panels!
What would Mayor Pete Butt-jig, born during Reagan’s presidency, know about World War II? Then, we fought against two powerful enemies (Germany and Japan) armed with thousands of tanks and planes and other weapons. Now Mayor Pete says it’s harder to fight against a harmless gas (CO2) which constitutes one molecule out of every 2,500 molecules in the air? Actually, the best “solution” is probably to do nothing, since the extra CO2 in the air speeds up plant growth and increases crop yields, and doing nothing is a LOT easier than fighting World War II.
Steve Z, good comments, but I wonder how you had the stomach to even listen to such bovine-excrement. You couldn’t pay me to do it….
I read the transcripts, can not stand to listen to their whinny, hate-filled voices. What sad excuses for human beings.
“This is the hardest thing we will have done — certainly in my lifetime. This is on par with winning World War II. Perhaps, even more challenging than that,” Mayor Peter Bugiegieg told CNN’s Chris Cuomo.
The analogy should be carried forward, noting how many lives will be lost as a result of not having an adequate energy supply … as compared to how many lives were lost during WW2.
(… then force these idiots into actually saying out loud that increased trace CO2 will lead to millions, no billions, of deaths, rather than insinuating it with the meaningless and subjective “existential threat” language.)
And there I thought that Insane Clown Posse was a rap band. Silly me. Cheers –
I didn’t have any time to give them. However, while I was listening to a music station while driving my car, the DJ in between tunes said that he had watched some of it:
“Oh my, its worse than we thought! Those people are completely bat %$#@ crazy!”
There is nothing that Democrats do or say anymore that appears even “vaguely” sane.
It leaves me speechless, without words to describe it
Ban plastic straws? Capitalism to the rescue- the pasta straw http://www.pastastraw.com/
What the democrats really need are candidates who believe that improving the national and world economies is a good approach to helping to solve our problems. Many voters may not think kindly of the idea of shafting the economy and putting most voter’s lives at risk.
If they really want to reduce CO2 emissions, than nuclear power is the only rational alternative that can currently meet our energy needs but they are against nuclear power as well. 200 years ago and before. mankind did not make use of fossil fuels but the climate was still changing. The older, fossil fuel free technology will not support the Earth’s current human population so turning back the technology clock will mean that a large part of our current population will not be able to survive. I know that in my neighborhood, if fossil fuels were suddenly banned, most of the population would have to move away or else starve to death. Some of the voters may not be very thrilled with that prospect.
Based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one can conclude that the climate change that we have been experiencing is both small and is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. This is all a matter of science. So the conclusion is that there is no climate change problem. Destroying the economy in order to reduce CO2 emissions will have very little effect on the over all radiant greenhouse effect caused by so called greenhouse gases and will have no effect on climate. But even if they could somehow stop the earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue because they are part of the current climate so there is no payoff. We do not even know what the optimum global climate actually is let alone how to achieve it. Committing economic suicide is not going to help anyone and will have no effect on the Earth’s climate..
What does banning plastic straws have to do with climate change?
Dave in Alabama September 6, 2019 at 8:19 am
Parry? No.
William Blake!
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Don’t be silly, Dave in Alabama!
https://www.google.com/search?q=jerusalem+lyrics+hubert+parry&oq=JerusalemTEXT+Hubert+Parry&aqs=chrome.
The CNN rebranding forum solidified that the Democrat Party is dead . The party shown in the 7 hour soft ball game was in fact the coming out event for the Green party USA .
If red eyed Biden gets in it will be as a wooden figurehead with a string attached to his back .
Bernie is a ranting communist who apparently would like to assist the women of Africa abort more babies .
Bernie seems to have a low tolerance for baby noise especially . He just can’t help himself .
Warren hmm a fake Indian claiming to be a capitalist . Well that finishes her .
So who’s floating down river on a great big bag of cash … the guy that has been pulling stings Steyer .
It’s the Green Party folks and they will lie , cheat and do absolutely nothing for the American public
until they get power. Then the real fun begins .