Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Climate liberals appear to view spirituality and faith as a potential weakness they can leverage to achieve their green policy objectives.
Can Spirituality and Religion Help Halt Climate Change?
BY TEMO DIAS
MARCH 13, 2019Elevating the outlook of the common good and criticizing the destructive moral foundations of society can be part of creating the structural change required to combat climate change.
In times global turmoil full of social divisiveness and mounting controversy, it can seem odd to emphasize the importance of spiritual institutions in our drive to halt climate change. However, faith-based delegations flocked to this year’s UN Climate Change Conference, COP24, in Katowice, Poland, from all corners of our planet. Indigenous leaders, scientists and UN officials rang the bell for attention to the foundational role spirituality plays in halting the growing existential catastrophe of climate change.
In the words of Dr. Debra Roberts, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) co-chair of Working Group II during an event dedicated to solidarity, “Faith communities play a powerful role even science is acknowledging.”
This is not simply due to the capacity of religious institutions to shake up the 6 billion of those who identify with a faith worldwide into action. Our Anthropocene era of humans “playing God” is marked by an emphasis on materialism, mounting egocentrism and the loss of the sacredness when it comes to life forms. As a result, many are searching for foundational moral critiques of these societal norms that have become part of the catalysts driving environmental disaster. “When you stop and think about it, religion should be helping,” emphasized His Holiness Gyalwang Drukpa, the Buddhist spiritual leader, at the COP’s Action Hub.
PHILOSOPHICAL PATH TO ENVIRONMENTALISM
Although very diverse from one another in their philosophical pathways, including the various indigenous beliefs, spiritual institutions envelop environmental issues in a two-tiered structure. First, they ingrain a heightened existential awareness, a connection to the world, a sacred importance of created life forms and emphasis on the reproductive continuity of humanity, where climate change and environmental destruction is an all-encompassing threat. Then, with provided moral practices and behaviors to maintain such existence and life forms, these ecologically conscious actions are grounded as sacred and foundational duties of individuals and community for the continuing family and society — our future generations.
From the perspective of the diverse spiritual bodies backing climate warnings and targets, this is an existential and moral question of our current social behavior requiring holistic change. With this approach in mind, religious leaders and adherents filled seats at the COP24 conferences aware of the crisis humans have wreaked upon creation. To change the status quo, they emphasize embedding scientific, indigenous and local climate mitigations and adaptation strategies into each respective region’s moral practices as has been spiritually done for millennia.
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Read more: https://www.fairobserver.com/culture/religion-spirituality-climate-change-cop24-environment-news-18812/
In my opinion, the idea of perverting faith into an instrument of state control is an utter betrayal of the religious liberty upheld by those who founded the United States. But you don’t have to take my word for it.
Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists;
Messrs. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, and Stephen S. Nelson
A Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association, in the State of Connecticut.Washington, January 1, 1802
Gentlemen, – The affectionate sentiment of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association, give me the highest satisfaction. My duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature would “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect and esteem.
Th Jefferson Jan. 1. 1802[6]
Does anyone think Thomas Jefferson would have embraced the idea of seeking to exploit people’s faith to achieve green policy objectives?
Thomas Jefferson would have gone full Aaron Burr on these greentards.
Hmm… I think Jefferson would have gone full Andrew Jackson on these greentards.
To any leftist who wants to talk about Religion and Climate Change, I say, okay, you want to talk about religion? Lets talk about Abortion and Gay Marriage first, then I’ll be glad to talk Climate Change with you. That always kills any conversation dead in its tracks.
Good one!
The hypocrisy is monumental. The cynicism even more so. The Totes have denigrated religion and people who have faith from the get-go. Finding common cause now must mark the final gasps of a worn out campaign.
In away it’s apt that the leftists want to talk about religion and climate change considering that for many of them climate change *is* their religion.
Trying to combine any other religion and environmentalism will almost certainly result in the same outcome as Liberation Theology, a movement to combine Catholicism and Marxism. The end product was almost entirely Marxist, with a few Catholic terms used for cover.
I would suppose that combining environmentalism and Buddhism or whatever would have the same outcome.
Katharine Hayhoe regularly wraps her pagan climate religion around a Evangelical Christian message. I agree we should be good stewards of our environment, but demonizing CO2 emssions in and of themselves should not part of that.
If one wants to imagine environmental degradation on biblical scale, then take away abundant fossil fuels from 7+ Billion people and see what happens to the environment and most ecosystems around the world.
I think Hayhoe et al represent the unfaithful servant in the parable who buries the talents in the ground for fear of his master’s ire, instead of multiplying the talents through good business practices as the other servants did. The benefits of fossil fuels, nurtured by honest, equitable administration can eliminate poverty and overpopulation. I believe fossil fuels are proof of God’s plan for the descendants of Adam to “multiply and subdue the world”.
For these misguided servants I offer the following:
An Ode to the Church
On Fighting Climate Change
Bureaucrats and Global Planners
Speak in agitated manners,
Predicating great disaster:
“Climate change we now must master!”
Human guilt and blame beseeching:
“Children, shame we should be teaching!
Man has sinned by overreaching
Fragile Gaia’s limit!”
Beware: this bold apostasy
Spins prophesy from vanity!
The firmaments will never be
Controlled by mortal hands.
So, use this world, as best you can,
To take care of your fellow man
And leave Earth’s destiny to God’s great plan!
This Universe is God’s, alone
Commanding elements He owns.
Perplexes any man’s control,
Yet, still provides for every soul!
Joel, it appears that climate doom-sayers are the modern-day Prophets of Baal.
I suspect what they are interested in is how religious faith held such a hold over whole societies for generation after generation.
It is not the faith thing, it is the organised religion thing, the tithes thing, the societal ostracism and shaming of non-believers thing. True believers who had no need for church buildings nor professional religious officers were the enemy, after all.
Wars causing a challenge to ‘a woman’s place is in the home’ is what caused the whole controlling structure to come crashing down in the UK….
Religious faith also help bind together societies, and give them a shared code of conduct and morality, to the benefit of society, if not every individual – our civilization, for all its faults, was built on the foundations of western Christianity.
And the loss of the “controlling” structure as you see it has not been entirely beneficial – if you could take our grandparents and great grandparents back and show them a typical British city or large town centre on a Friday or Saturday night, I’m not convinced they’d see all the changes in society as an improvement.
“demonizing CO2 emssions”
Carbon has become the secular version of original sin.
“Katharine Hayhoe regularly wraps her pagan climate religion around a Evangelical Christian message. I agree we should be good stewards of our environment, but demonizing CO2 emssions in and of themselves should not part of that. ”
Climate Thot (Hey, ho!”) wears Christian clothes, but IMO is a gnostic at heart (i.e., salvation by knowledge rather than by faith). Anyone wanting to know more about her religion can search Andrew + Farley + hyper + grace. Farley is her pastor husband.
A steward is someone who takes care of his employers property, but also seeks to maximize his employers return from that property.
It’s the second part of a stewards responsibility that most leftists forget about. A steward who allowed fertile land to remain fallow year after year, would be replaced.
When religion meets reality, something may have to give. The Journey West is a Chinese story of a Buddhist monk’s journey to India to collect sacred scrolls. He is a pacifist and would literally not harm a fly. The problem is that demons want to prevent the journey. So, the problem is to either give up on the sacred duty to collect the scrolls, or allow the Monkey King to kill the demons. As is often the case in life, there is no perfect path, only compromise.
That made for one freaky Chinese Movie. Fun though!
AMEN TOM
Those who would exploit faith obviously don’t have faith. No reason to listen to them. Lots of reasons to condemn their trickery!
But all they have is faith. They are blinded by adherence to their green religion and I suspect it is the reason why they reject the scientific method.
All religions are man made constructs that reinforce and then mutate an individual’s spirituality for the enrichment and power of their leaders. There is little difference betwenn Al Gore and Joel Osteen.
All Religions (capitol R) are based in/on “fear and ignorance”.
There is little difference betwenn Al Gore and Joel Osteen.
I don’t know, there’s probably a good 100 pounds difference between them 😉 (unless Al’s gone on a diet recently).
“The flames of ignorance burn without pain. Beware the power or it will consume you before you know.”
“And if thy words stray from the truth for the good of God’s own, if thy intent be pure, thou shall not then be judged sinful.”
and my all time favorite (and actually a ‘real’ one):
‘Cursed is he who moves his neighbor’s boundary stone.’ And let all the people say, ‘Amen!’ (Deuteronomy 27:17)
That will cause some problems, combining GAIA with first the Jewish God YAWAA, then the Christian one, and the Islamic one, you know the One trueGod ALLAH. . I recall in Victoria the Catholics always said that. Gone a bitsilent of late with Pell in jail though.
But for what they the Greens say is a back to Nature faith, I would suggestthat Buddhism is the nearest to their belief system.
MJE VK5ELL
Strange comment Michael especially about Cardinal Pell. You no doubt are aware that he was/ is a committed man made global warming agnostic who gave the annual address at the Global Warming Policy Unit in London some years ago. I have no doubt that his views played no small part in the witch hunt against him, as well as his plans to expose the financial irregularities in the Vatican. That was prior to his being found guilty by the kangaroo court.
You should also be aware the “our” problem sent pope is fully paid up member of the new religion of Gaia to the detriment of his official duties as man of the Jeudo Christian God.
our present pope – message to self “proof read!
Umm, yes, all good, except it would be a good idea to identify the portraitist as Rembrandt Peale right up front rather than risk people concluding you think this is the Rembrandt who passed away in the mid-17th century.
As to co-opting religious faith to the cause of “climate change,” lots of clerics all too willingly fall prey, if for no other reason than the fact that crusading against global warming is so much easier than the job they signed up for. Bargain-basement virtue, if you will…
The link goes to Rembrandt Peale’s Wikipedia page.
The author is on first name terms with Mr. Peale (but not with Mr. Jefferson…)
Can religion help halt climate change? Trick question. But fake religions are surely joining in the secular clamor for power. Why do you think the leaders of Catholicism and LDS just met when they obviously negate one another.
Human climate control is a religion in itself. I call it the Church of Omnipotent Greenhouse In Carbon. Its most faithful are the Model Fellowship of Mann.
To convince the religious people who believe in a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis that there will be no more climate catastrophes, just point them to the following verse:
“While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.” Genesis 8:22, KJV
— i.e. weather and climate will remain cyclical.
That verse says nothing about climate being cyclical. It says the weather changes seasonally, and will continue to do so.
Besides, religious people are not causing millions of dollars to be wasted. It’s those CAGW believers who think CO2 emissions are gonna cause bad weather – just you wait and see – no, don’t wait, give up your car now!
SR
Yes, it does not include oscillations in climate. But suppose otherwise – i.e. the shorter daily and annual cycles of temperature and weather remain, but are superimposed upon a long-term, runaway, exponential increase or decrease in temperature, resulting in oceans boiling away or freezing solid. Then the promisor is capricious. (Of course there is that caveat: “While the earth remaineth…”)
It is by now beyond question that AGW is a religion, the believers are religious people and they are causing billions of dollars to be wasted. It is also obvious that, by their behavior, by their prodigious level of energy consumption, the popes and cardinals of the movement in their multiple vast estates, their ship sized yachts, their private jets don’t believe a bit of it.
My local church put up a speaker from the local Christian school (the headmaster, if I remember right) and he proceeded to deliver all the standard tropes. I couldn’t make the night but I did get a recording that was offered to people who missed out. At the end, one of the questions was “How can we talk to people about the environment in the same way that we talk to them about Jesus?”
For me, it simply appeared that some people believe anything that comes from the pulpit (or other faucet of authority). Thankfully there are a number of people in that church who also called out the bunkum, but at the end of the day its disappointing that faith is being corrupted to spout propaganda (though it’s hardly the first time lol)
Thank you God for giving me a brain. Thank you God for opening my eyes to the manipulations of those who would rule as tyrants. Thank you God for allowing me to have an education in the sciences instead of the arts. Thank you God for gracing me with enough faith in you that I don’t automatically run around like chicken little because charlatans claim the sky is falling.
Separation of Church and State isn’t to protect the State in all it’s power, it’s to prevent the State from turning Church into it’s instrument of control.
Take heart. Most of the hard working, down to earth folk I talk to have written off the climate change hysteria as a scam quite some time ago.
Where I live had a mile of ice ten millenia ago. The ice melted, formed a lake, drained, refilled and emptied again. Now that’s climate change and geographic change. We’ve also had the coldest winter in my memory. We’ve had drought and flooding in the same year. What difference is a fraction of a degree in temperature compared to that?
“Separation of Church and State isn’t to protect the State in all its power, it’s to prevent the State from turning Church into its instrument of control.”
Amen to that. It has taken thousands of years and countless wars and lives lost to achieve this and we sure better not throw it all away on something so deceptive as the current state of climate science. There is a reason why the founding fathers chose not to allow control of science or politics by the church, because they saw what had happened in Europe for centuries before, and in many cases were why themselves arrived on the shores of North America due to that very persecution. Now that climate science has become a de facto (defective) religion, and attempting to become a state religion, it is time to put the brakes on this mess before so much damage is done to the economy that we never recover.
“No one. March 13, 2019 at 6:47 pm
Separation of Church and State isn’t to protect the State in all it’s power, it’s to prevent the State from turning Church into it’s instrument of control.”
Interesting because “God” is often required in support of going to war. So, it already is.
The answer is “Yes!!”…
https://youtu.be/yBoUBVJEnCQ
Traditionalist Roman Catholic perspectives of laity and clergy are being voiced more and more openly against the current Pope on his support of this climate change “false flag” propaganda and these voices are exposing his complicity with the real agenda: promoting Globalism ..which the Pope complicity supports..among his other other heretical break with the traditions of the Church regarding marriage..
He has OPENLY outed himself as in lock-step with the Great Pretense of Climate Doom.
Some traditionalist Roman Catholics have discerned his two most blatantly stated neo-theologic positions as catholic apostasies.
These are meant to support the fomenting of NWO-thinking into acceptance of population control nihilism among catholics and meant to convert into Earth worshippers [idolatry] as modern times converts into a One World Order (false) religion.
Very sad. Count me out..I’m not biting his ideoligical false-theologic bait. The road to hell being paved with good intentions lacking critical thinking.. he is pushing his flock towards embracing the ultimate oligarchy of a World Order and submission to the Climate Change pretending elites..
https://youtu.be/yB oUBVJEnCQ
I pretty much agree with the premise of this article and with this speaker about the pope’s agenda..
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https://youtu.be/yBoUBVJEnCQ
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Note: The entire link did not acrivate to the letter at end of the url.. which is the “Q”
Patrick Moore predicted that if fossil fuels were banned, “agricultural production would collapse” and that starvation would spread in cities across the country, and “half the population would die” shortly after.
So this would be the probable result of zealots encouraging the world to follow the green dictum under the banner of “sacred and foundational duties of individuals and community” and “moral practices?”
There’s no doubt about it. If fossil fuels were banned tomorrow millions of people would die.
That’s why fossil fuels won’t be banned despite all the hyperbole.
The Loony Left live in a world all their own. A Nightmare world. And they are welcome to it. They just should not expect the rest of us to enter into their delusion.
Whatever happens, don’t let any of these recruits get a peek at the evidence for this apocalypse before they are provided their banners for the march. Everything they perceive must derive from prophetic computer models that the high priesthood (IPCC) has exclaimed a growing confidence in with each further departure from what our very thermometers would inform us.
“A little learning is a dangerous thing.” – Alexander Pope.
(Particularly in the hands of enthusiastic amateurs).
Thermometers are obsolete, Doc. Now you need a gas analyser to see what the CO2 content is so you can derive the adjusted temperature from that using Mike’s math. 😜😆😁
Straight out of the book of Revelation: The Beast Government sets up a world religion, and ultimately himself as God with his statue installed in the Third Temple.
This Truthful criticism of the current Pope gets good about minute 9..all the way to the end..
God help us all..sorrowful to have lived to see the first incident of a Pope proselityzing Climate Change dogma to effect depopulation and a One World Order religion of Earth Worshippers bowing to totalitarian lying oligarch propaganda.
Not all “his” sheep will or are following this fallen-hepard Vicar. I won’t.
His “Pope of Mercy” public relations campaign sounds really good to those who “see but cannot See, hear but do not Hear”
He has now created and defined the archetype a nihilist pope..so sad.
https://youtu.be/yBoUBVJEnCQ
The Catholic leadership is doing great damage to the Church. They are guilty of the sin of socialism. They are turning many members of the Church away because of this and other behaviors.
God should probably clean house now.
Whenever I see nature contradict the torrent of false predictions I think of this verse.
If I were as religious as my mother I would say that Satan has a choke hold on the press and the media, and plans to put the mark of the beast on everyone worldwide with his clever charade.
…”the growing existential catastrophe of climate change.”
That one caused me to don my waders and take to higher ground until the sewer-sucker arrives.
Apparently the Bible is replete with warnings of climate change catastrophism:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/climate_change
Millenarianism is I think intrinsic to Christianity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism
Forcing people back to the stone age doesn’t sound like the “Christian” thing to do.
Agreed.
Thomas Jefferson had the benefit of a proper Anglican Church of England college
education at William and Mary.
After the Revolution the church on this side of the Atlantic became the Episcopal
Church.
Jefferson, following his successful law career and the Presidency moved beyond the
concept of higher education with an elitist and restrictive underpinning of religion.
He founded the University of Virginia as a way around those embedded limitations.
At a UK “public school” (private school) we were taught by the chaplain that there was a need for religion to give us some sense of moral purpose, otherwise the education would just produce a bunch of clever crooks.
Maybe we should ask Cardinal Pell about this?
RE: “Climate Change Activists Seeking to Exploit Religious Faith”
Father,
Forgive them, for they truly know not what they do.
Amen
In regard to the liberal’s question, “Can Spirituality and Religion Help Halt Climate Change?”, I think Paul’s words in Ephesians 6:10-13 are apropos, “Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the hold armor of God that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle with flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore put on the whole armor of God , that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand.”
Thus when Climate charlatans, among other liars among us come around, God’s armor will give us the power to fend off the principalities, the powers, the rulers of darkness of this age, and the spiritual hosts of wickedness. So the answer to the question is, Absolutely Yes, spirituality will eventually put a halt to the left’s vicious lies about Climate Change.
Satan doesn’t realize it yet, but Jesus has already defeated him.
The fact is alarmists believe man-made catastrophic climate change without one shred of evidence to support their positions. That is the basis of faith.
Exactly, Patrick! CAGW (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming) is a faith-based religion.
I have had discussions with several people at church about CAGW including my sister who don’t see the need to look too deeply into the background of what is going on and who is behind it, they are willing to just accept what they are told fortunately there are also those who have looked and seen through the smoke and mirrors.
It’s an ongoing process putting facts in place of lies and dodgy data showing where records have been adjusted and changed. I do what I can to give the truth to the children but many of the parents don’t seem bothered to check facts either.
James Bull
Remember Jefferson’s advice cuts both ways. I have friends and relatives who are CAGW believers. It only becomes a problem when they try to coerce unbelievers to live by the tenets of their faith. Be gentle.
Given the reduction in CO2 over geological time, the present use of fossil fuels can be seen as the provision of a caring God.
A thought that has crossed my mind more than once …
Prescient of you, I think!
Bargain basement virtue is signalled by the churchmen in the Synod of the Church of England who have decided to disinvest in fossil fuel companies unless they ‘conform to the Paris Agreement’. Ludicrous. Do they expect a reduction in product and consequent impoverishment? It is us who produce the CO2. They also believe in the IPCC’s SR1.5. Oh dear oh dear
I suspect the greenies are working from an over-estimation of the power that religions have over their followers. If all the followers of any religion were keeping to even the basic principles of their religion the world would be a very different place. For example ‘you shall not steal’ is common to Jews and to all denominations of Christian – check out the prison population.
Even mainstream Catholics do not all do what the Pope says: it doesn’t work like that.
“I suspect the greenies are working from an over-estimation of the power that religions have over their followers”
I think that’s true. My first skeptical experience took place in church when I was about 10-years-old. I had never thought to question authority before that day.
My church was protestant but had a unique belief: That it was a sin to use musical instruments to praise God. My church believed that only the human voice was acceptable to God.
So one day the preacher was talking about this issue and he said that anyone who used a musical instrument to praise God was going to Hell! And I thought to myself, “That can’t be right! Why would a merciful God send someone to Hell for praising Him?”
At that moment I realized that I had to take the things I hear with a grain of salt. And I do. I rely mainly on common sense and logic to get me through the day. 🙂
“…That it was a sin to use musical instruments to praise God.”
Ahhh, Church of Christ (New Testament only theology) I take it? They can fall into the category of the extremes of Protestantism (and others) like those that handle snakes & such. They build an entire denomination around a specific scripture verse or, as in Church of Christ, the ‘lack’ of a verse (no music instruments mentioned in the New Testament, only Old Testament).
This is where discernment, wisdom and understanding should step in to avoid the extremes & the fakers but pursue the Truth. Remember, the problem is not with the Bible but with the people who twist and abuse what it says…usually to control you and to profit from it. In Genesis, man was given dominion over the Earth (free to partake of it’s riches and bounty) but to also be responsible and good stewards of it (don’t be selfish & clean up after yourself).
JMHO
Yes, it was the Church of Christ. The thing about musical instruments was about their only out-of-mainstream belief. No snake handlers there.
As you say, it’s not the Bible that is the problem, it is the individual interpretations that sometimes lead us astray a little bit. As it is with anything, including CAGW. Human interpretations are fallible. We should keep that in mind, especially in church.
Why is Thomas Jefferson the only person from the earlier centuries whose portrait looks like a real human?
When I tried to explain to a millennial that the whole AGW argument is demonstrably a load of codswallop, he reverted to: “Well, even so, it would be good to reduce industrial pollution, right?”
“it would be good to reduce industrial pollution, right?”
The answer should be: No, not if reducing industrial pollution causes the destruction of our entire civilization. That would not be good.
I don’t think it was a case of the risk of the State taking over the Church,
but judging from hundreds of years of history, it was to prevent the Church,
which ever one, from taking over the State. .Today with the rise of Islam that
potential danger is still there.
When Jefferson established a university, he was criticised for not incorporating
a Church within it. I would suspect that he was either a lapsed Anglican,
or that he reasoned that belief in a faith and reasoning from facts an figures
could not co-exist together.
MJE VK5ELL
Bingo!
It was to prevent Denominational control of Government AND Government controlling a Denomination.
Both had happened in history that was not “ancient” to them.
Today, the intent would include incorporating “Sharia Law”, tearing down war monuments in the shape of a cross, forbidding coaches from having a voluntary prayer with their players, fining bakeries, removing the 10 Commandments from The Supreme Building etc. etc.
Climate change advocates are Agents of Satan.
Praise the Lord!
There ya go.
“make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,”
Truly one of the greatest achievements of western civilization.
True but unfortunately most people do not know or forget the second half of that statement.
“true but unfortunately most people do not know or forget the second half of that statement.”
That’s right. Our Courts do a lot of that “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” like making people take down crosses marking the graves of war veterans. This is suppression of the free exercise of religion. Allowing the cross to stand is not the same as the State advocating for that religion but that’s the way some interpret it.
All religions are man made constructs that reinforce and then usurp an individual’s spirituality for the enrichment and power of the leaders. There is little different between Al Gore and Joel Osteen.
This has a long history. Take Dubya’s ‘Spiritual’ JourneyBush for example.
How about the “innocuous” first verse of “Amazing Grace”:
Amazing grace!
How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost,
But now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.
FUNDAMENTALISM IN AMERICA `All Praises Due to Satan, The Ruler of the World'”
There a clear precedent for the current lurch to climate fundamentalism, a direct line of continuity. No American can feign surprise! Ever hear of Jonathan Edwards?
After seeing Bush’s “religion” it should be clear why Separation of Church and State is critical.
Yikes, did I just hear someone chanting :
Amazing GHG’s!
How sweet the CO2
That saved a wretch like me!
I once was lost,
But now am found;
Was blind, but now I see.
The shortest distance on earth is the one between an Evangelist and an old woman’s social security check.
In religion or elsewhere unethical people do not care about the ethics of exploitation. It is part of the sociopathic “me first” culture of our times.
Sir Julian Huxley (1887-1975)
He saw Humanism as a replacement ‘religion’, and as such represented an important strand in post-war humanist thought. In a speech given to a conference in 1965 he spoke of the need for “a religiously and socially effective system of humanism.” And in his book Religion Without Revelation, he wrote:
“What the sciences discover about the natural world and about the origins, nature and destiny of man is the truth for religion. There is no other kind of valid knowledge. This natural knowledge, organized and applied to human fulfilment, is the basis of the new and permanent religion.” The book ends with the concept of “transhumanism”– “man remaining man, but transcending himself by realizing new possibilities of and for his human nature”.
In 1961 Julian Huxley brought together 25 distinguished people to present their view of existence in a book called The Humanist Frame. He wrote: “…the increase of knowledge is driving us towards the radically new type of idea-system which I have called Evolutionary Humanism…Humanism is seminal. We must learn what it means, then disseminate Humanist ideas, and finally inject them where possible into practical affairs as a guiding framework for policy and action.”
http://www.humanism.org.uk/humanism/humanist-tradition/20century/sir-julian-huxley
Julian Huxley was first Director General of UNESCO. He advocated a new and Permanent Worldwide “Religion without Revelation”. His younger cousin Crispin Tickell was one of the Godfathers of the CAGW agenda.
Crispin Tickell and Cousin Julian Huxley
Nigel Lawson: Global warming has turned into religion
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/02/11/was-climate-change-alarmism-always-about-fears-of-overpopulation/#comment-2623744
“He saw Humanism as a replacement ‘religion’, and as such represented an important strand in post-war humanist thought.”
Indeed, Atheism/Agnosticism is the rejection of God and the worship of Self. Secular Humanism is the worship of Self or State and since they reject the Judeo-Christian morality, they replace it with the Moral Relativism (there is no absolute right/wrong, it is what I say it is…and if you disagree, I’m correct & you are wrong). Karl Marx Socialism/Communism fits right in there with the rejection of the ‘Church’ (God) and replacing it with the State & it’s leaders morality.
A few hundred million dead later, meh – ‘you have to break some eggs to make an omelette’.
“Huxley emerges as a crucial bridging figure from what has been referred to as “old eugenics” to a new eugenics based on molecular biology, providing an influential analysis of human evolution and a set of persuasively appealing concepts for both the wider public and scientific elite”
His problem was the other Huxley’s hard core eugenics.
“Reforming” eugenics with scientific lipstick is still a pig. I need not mention Lord Maynard Keynes, the Director of the British Eugenics Society (1937-1944).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4366572/
We need to change the narrative. This is how to get religious people on side. We need to convince them of a progressive creationist view. Preach that when God/Great Spirit/whatever made the world and it was good. The good that he made it was the challenges he placed there. God made a world that is dangerous and harsh yes but with all the resources necessary for us to overcome. He made forests and fossil fuels and fissionable and fusion-able materials as resources for us so we can change our world and take away its harshness.
Environmentalists have a static creationist view. God or ‘millions of years of evolution’ made the world and it was good. The idea that something that humans do could make the world better is heresy. Man is evil and Nature/God/’millions of years of evolution is good. That is why environmentalists hate everything that man does. They hate putting CO2 back into the air that was in the air millions of years ago because that would imply that (God,nature etc.) made a mistake for tying it up in the form of fossil fuels in the first place. They hate dams because if(Nature, God etc.) had wanted a lake there he/she would have put a lake there. They hate genetically modified plants because if (Millions of years of evolution’,God etc.) didn’t do it then it’s not good. And so on!
We need to tell religious people that God/Great Spirit/whatever loves us and wants us to progress and to make our lives better. Those nasty things about nature: the diseases , the deserts, the deformations, these are problems to be solved to keep us from getting bored.
Climate Change is the religion of environmentalism. Using their religious dogma to create laws and regulations violates the separation of church and state.
Hey, I’m all for using religion to spread the truth (i.e., “the good word”, if you will) about climate change. But the climate-alarmist approach to using religion and spirituality is utterly contradictory to the facts, where carbon and carbon dioxide are concerned.
A truly enlightened person must take into account the fact that carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the known universe, at about 5,000 parts per million, or 0.5% of the known universe.
Now look at what astrophysicists know about this MAJOR building block of the universe:
Th. Henning, F. Salama (1998). Carbon in the Universe, SCIENCE, Vol. 282, Issue 5397, pp. 2204-2210.
I totally screwed up my closing tag for the block quote, which messes up the flow, damn it.
I’m re-posting again, and hope the mods will forgive me and delete the first dumb-@$$ attempt:
Hey, I’m all for using religion to spread the truth (i.e., “the good word”, if you will) about climate change. But the climate-alarmist approach to using religion and spirituality is utterly contradictory to the facts, where carbon and carbon dioxide are concerned.
A truly enlightened person must take into account the fact that carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the known universe, at about 5,000 parts per million, or 0.5% of the known universe.
Now look at what astrophysicists know about this MAJOR building block of the universe:
Th. Henning, F. Salama (1998). Carbon in the Universe, SCIENCE, Vol. 282, Issue 5397, pp. 2204-2210.
I give up — I just realized that I screwed up my second block-quote tag, and so my second attempt is also ………. up.
Type much, Kernodle? (he should be banned)
Hopefully, some folks can understand what I was getting at, even with my formatting foe pas.
(Amplified Bible) Galations1: 6 I am surprised and astonished that you are so quickly turning renegade and deserting Him Who invited and called you by the grace (unmerited favor) of Christ (the Messiah) [and that you are transferring your allegiance] to a different [even an opposition] gospel.
7 Not that there is [or could be] any other [genuine Gospel], but there are [obviously] some who are troubling and disturbing and bewildering you [with a different kind of teaching which they offer as a gospel] and want to pervert and distort the Gospel of Christ (the Messiah) [into something which it absolutely is not].
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to and different from that which we preached to you, let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment)!
9 As we said before, so I now say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel different from or contrary to that which you received [from us], let him be accursed (anathema, devoted to destruction, doomed to eternal punishment)!
The Gospel of Christ is presenting to people what Christ did on the cross and resurrection and what that means. They can say “Yes or No” to it.
If they say “No”, shake the dust off your feet and move on.
In the context of this post, it’s about saving people, not the “environment”.
Galatians 3:1 O YOU poor and silly and thoughtless and unreflecting and senseless Galatians! Who has fascinated or bewitched or cast a spell over you, unto whom–right before your very eyes–Jesus Christ (the Messiah) was openly and graphically set forth and portrayed as crucified?
Back in 1953 I was being trained as a Policeman. The Instructor placed
a loaf of bread on the floor and he then bowed to it and said Hail Bread.
He then told us that in Law, that was a religion.
But consider this , some 2000 years ago in what was then Roman Palestine
a boy was born of the union of Joseph and Mary. As he grew up he took
a interest in the Jewish faith.
He became a Preacher man as many did back then. He upset the Priests of the Jewish Temple and they framed him for a crime, the carrying of weapons and he was crucified.
Later one Saul of Tarsus, a odd character who was persecuting followers
of the Jesus Cult. Whilst on the road to Damascus he possibly suffered a stroke
and as does occur in such cases it apparently changed his thinking, and now he wanted to spread the word about Jesus.
Fast Forward many years to the time of Emperor Constantine. . He was
having problems in running his vast empire so needed a Unifying Force.
He choose this small sect of Christians, promised that if they accepted his
version of the Jesus story, “That he would make them Princes of the Church,
with Palaces and churches provided.” It was a offer too good to refuse, so
bar a few who went into exile, they accepted. But as we now say” The rest is history.
MJE VK5ELL
There is a creeping of “worshipping the creation” vs. “worshiping The Creator”.
The whole CAGW movement takes me to this passage , Matthew 7:15:
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravening wolves.”
The false prophets promote ” worshipping the creation.” Clearly false prophets have plagued us since the beginning of time – an inherent human flaw, it would appear to me.
In answer to Patrick regarding my mention of Cardinal Pell now in jail.
As a now retired Police Officer I am of the opinion that going on Palls days
in Ballarat plus who he was sharing accommodation with, that he was probably
a pedafule from back then.
Never the less I am of the opinion that he should not have been convicted
of the so called “Abby “incident.
First the time element, back in the 1950 tees three days was considered to be
the maximum before a report to the Police had to be made. Today its years,
not a good idea, peoples memories are not all that good a few days later let
alone years .
Second and this is important, it appears to be a case of one now mans word
only, no other evidence . . That used to be considered OK in a civil case, but
never in a criminal case.
Its the same with rape cases, he said, she said. Not good enough without
additional evidence. The appeal may well bring up these points and Pell
will be found “Not Guilty”.
MJE VK5ELL
“Then, with provided moral practices and behaviors”
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After the battle, the Roman general ordered “give their swords to the savages and let them murder each other according to the customs
and mores
of their elders.”
I’m currently reading “The Great Deception”, about the EU, by Booker/North, the contents of which explain why Brexit is so imporrtant. In this context, there’s a passage likening the EU dogma to religious fundamentalism and the parallels with climate change are startling.