Guest commentary by David Middleton
From Politico…
‘The existential threat of our time’: Pelosi elevates climate change on Day One
By ANTHONY ADRAGNA and ZACK COLMAN 01/03/2019
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Speaker Nancy Pelosi brought up the issue in her opening address while touting a new select panel to come up with ideas on how to solve it, and the Energy and Commerce Committee announced that climate change would be the subject of its very first hearing this year.
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Meanwhile, President Donald Trump and Republicans who control the Senate have shown no interest in pursuing dramatic reductions in carbon emissions — meaning no House bill is likely to become law — even as scientists warn that time is running out to get a handle on the situation.
The Democrats’ change in tone is evident in the name of the new panel. It is now called the “Select Committee on the Climate Crisis,” compared to a focus on “energy independence and global warming” when Democrats formed a similar panel was formed a decade ago.
“We must … face the existential threat of our time: the climate crisis,” Pelosi said in her opening address to Congress Thursday. “The entire Congress must work to put an end to the inaction and denial of science that threaten the planet and the future.”
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Progressives, led in part by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), are tugging the caucus into a more urgent posture that they say best reflects what scientists have called for to avert climate change. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned last year that the world has 12 years to put policies in place to avoid irreversible, catastrophic effects of climate change.
“At least come out as appearing the Democratic Party has an agenda on this issue. That would be the biggest win,” Greg Carlock, Green New Deal research director with progressive think tank Data for Progress, said of his hopes for the committee.
Still, some Democrats are cautious about what a panel devoted to climate change might entail. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), who co-chairs the centrist Blue Dog Coalition, said he plans to speak with incoming select panel chairwoman Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.) and Energy and Commerce Chairman Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) about the direction and scale of climate legislation.
“We’ve got to find a way that we can accommodate our goals and not be seen as anti-business,” Cuellar said. “A lot of the oil-and-gas state folks feel the same way.”
Moderate and establishment Democrats largely prevailed in their first showdown with liberals over the select committee. Whereas protesters, joined by Ocasio-Cortez, stormed Pelosi’s office last November demanding the panel be empowered to issue subpoenas and write legislation, the committee that Democrats will establish Thursday can do neither of those things.
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Progressives, led by the Sunrise Movement, were dismayed by the panel’s final structure and especially that it lacks a requirement that Democratic members pledge not to accept campaign contributions from fossil fuel companies.
“This committee is toothless and weaker than the first Climate Select Committee from a decade ago, and it does not get us meaningfully closer to solving the climate crisis or fixing our broken economy,” said Varshini Prakash, the movement’s co-founder, in a statement. “This is deeply disappointing, but in losing this fight on the Select Committee, we have won the biggest breakthrough on climate change in my lifetime.”
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Where do I start?
“We must … face the existential threat of our time: the climate crisis,” Pelosi said in her opening address to Congress Thursday. “The entire Congress must work to put an end to the inaction and denial of science that threaten the planet and the future.”
Threaten the planet and the future? I’m fairly certain that time will not stop… So, the future is not threatened. Regarding the planet, I’ll let George Carlin handle that one (warning: lots of F-bombs):
Progressives, led in part by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), are tugging the caucus into a more urgent posture that they say best reflects what scientists have called for to avert climate change. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned last year that the world has 12 years to put policies in place to avoid irreversible, catastrophic effects of climate change.
12 years? We only had 10 years back in 1989…
U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 29, 1989
UNITED NATIONS (AP) A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.
Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.
He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.
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“This committee is toothless and weaker than the first Climate Select Committee from a decade ago…”
So what’s the point of the Select Committee on the Climate Crisis?
“At least come out as appearing the Democratic Party has an agenda on this issue. That would be the biggest win,” Greg Carlock, Green New Deal research director with progressive think tank Data for Progress, said of his hopes for the committee.
The purpose is to make it look like the Democrats are saving “the planet and the future.”
What does this mean for people with real jobs?
Not much. The Democrats probably can’t even get anything too damaging through the House, much less the Senate. In the 116th Congress, the Democrats only have a 54-46% majority in the House… And House Democrats aren’t fully Ocasio-Cortez-Stupid…
Still, some Democrats are cautious about what a panel devoted to climate change might entail. Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), who co-chairs the centrist Blue Dog Coalition, said he plans to speak with incoming select panel chairwoman Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.) and Energy and Commerce Chairman Frank Pallone (D-N.J.) about the direction and scale of climate legislation.
“We’ve got to find a way that we can accommodate our goals and not be seen as anti-business,” Cuellar said. “A lot of the oil-and-gas state folks feel the same way.”
Moderate and establishment Democrats largely prevailed in their first showdown with liberals over the select committee. Whereas protesters, joined by Ocasio-Cortez, stormed Pelosi’s office last November demanding the panel be empowered to issue subpoenas and write legislation, the committee that Democrats will establish Thursday can do neither of those things.
So Watts Up With That doesn’t need to worry about subpoenas from the Select Committee on the Climate Crisis… That’s a relief… 😉
Nancy, Build the wall !
… as a flood prevention measure for Mexico. Seriously, if disaster is imminent, then spend every dime on improving infrastructure, not pissing money up a … wall.
Walls are great historic markers, money ( $20 a head) shouldn’t come into it; in no particular order:
Wall of Babylon
Wall of Troy
Wailing Wall
Hadrian’s Wall
Great Wall of China
Wall of Ston
Berlin Wall
(Trump’s Wall ?)
to paraphrase:
I don’t need no criminals around me
I don’t need no drugs brought in to me
All in all, I’ve been tweeting about the wall
Don’t think I don’t need it at all
Let’s start with few more bricks in the wall.
don’t need no criminals around me
I don’t need no drugs brought in to me
All in all, I’ve been tweeting about the wall
Don’t think I don’t need it at all
Let’s start with few more bricks in the wall. –>
I don’t need no thugs around me
I don’t need no drugs brought in to me
Note to Ms. Pelosi…
Climate Change is not the existential threat that Socialists try to make it out to be. The true existential threat to the people of the world is the socialist principal(s) being foisted on society by those who preach the evils of Carbon and still produce prodigious quantities of it traveling to far away places to preach it’s evils inthe form of energy taxation and others.
United Nations System, last updated 23/02/2017
“UNEP-Led Green Economy Initiative”, (GEI), launched late in 2008
Has three sets of activities. Includes renewable energy.
And,
United Nations System
Under “Agenda” Section.
“Overview” of the GEI includes renewable energy.
http://www.unsystem.org/content/green-economy-initiative-gei
Some do recognize the UN Agenda when it shows up in “official” statements?
Forgot to include: United Nations System
http://www.unsystem.org/content/unep-led-green-economy-initiative
And,
UN Environment
“Finance Initiative: founded RIO 1992
“What is UN Environment Finance Initiative?”
Follow the links on the right sidebar for more “Finance Initiative” information.
http://www.unenvironment.org/explore-topics/green-economy/what-we-do/finance-initiative
Follow the money?
UN Environment
Articles: Green Economy Initiative (GEI), 333 items.
Can just scroll through.
http://www.unenvironment.org/search/node?keys=Green+Economy+Initiative.
Appears GEI is well known in UN circles?
And,
United Nations System
“About Section”
“UN Energy”, created 2004.
Re: Transition to sustainable energy.
Also includes Agenda 21.
http://www.unsystem.org/content/un-energy
“Renewable Energy” is another name for “Sustainable Energy”.
United Nations System
Articles on: “Agenda 21”
http://www.unsceb.org/search/node/Agenda%2021
Scroll through.
The Israeli West Bank barrier or wall a total length of 708 kilometres (440 mi) upon completion. The barrier was built during the Second Intifada that began in September 2000, and was defended by the Israeli government as necessary to stop the wave of violence inside Israel that the uprising had brought with it.[5] The Israeli government says that the barrier has been effective, as the number of suicide bombings carried out from the West Bank fell from 73 (between 2000 and July 2003 – the completion of the “first continuous segment”), to 12 (from August 2003 to the end of 2006)…..to zero today. (Wikipedia) Gee walls can keep out suicide bombers and terrorists but seem to be ineffective against illegal aliens……by you’re thought process.
Guy who’s raised $20 mil to build the wall claims $100 mil is in the works and awaiting approval
https://twitter.com/BrianKolfage/status/1081710627448598529
Yeah, that Hitler Trump’s torture chambers will fill up if we don’t do something to prevent people and the CHILDREN from breaking into them.
Make it of carbon. Two birds….. /s
Nancy Pelosi said: “We must … face the existential threat of our time: the climate crisis”…
I say: “We must … face the existential threat of our time: a covert Marxist takeover of America ”…
Economic destruction is the plan of the leadership of the Democratic Party in the USA, and similar leftist parties in the developed world. To believe the left is simply guilty of such incredible stupidity is to assume that they are all total imbeciles. I suggest that nobody, with the possible exception of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, is THAT stupid. This economic destruction is deliberate – it is planned.
Read this:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/05/ocasio-cortez-demands-70-tax-to-pay-for-her-climate-change-policies/#comment-2578355
and this
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/01/05/ocasio-cortez-demands-70-tax-to-pay-for-her-climate-change-policies/#comment-2578837
To believe the left is simply guilty of such incredible stupidity is to assume that they are all total imbeciles.
Indeed.
This economic destruction is deliberate – it is planned.
quod erat demonstrandum
I think the Republican National Committee should hire a camera crew and send them out to video the walls that have been built around the homes of prominent Democrats who are opposing funding a wall on the southern border, starting with Nancy Pelosi. Show a video of her house while showing her saying walls are immoral. Show her hypocrisy.
The New York Times is reporting that Trump will address the nation about the border crisis, and then will travel to the southern border to inspect the situation and talk with the border patrol agents. And no doubt, he will address the American people again and again and again on this subject.
One of the results of climate change on its way are millions of climate refugees migrating. Sooner than anyone realizes we’ll be needing that war even more.
We’re in serious trouble….for some reason democrats can band together and get anything passed….republicans can’t even agree of when to go to the bathroom, when they have to go
I don’t trust democrats at all….if they can ram through “we have to read it to see what’s in it”…they can ram anything through
Conservatives better get their act together in a hurry…..
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Conservatives are up against state and privately funded media with a firm agenda that they don’t bother hiding, such as this from the Australian ABC website:
http://blogs.christianpost.com/thinkingoutloud/background-checks-on-pelosi-and-feinstein-15603/
https://calwatchdog.com/2013/12/18/actually-jim-jones-cult-was-bay-area-democrats/
who said the left can’t meme?
DRINK THE KOOLAID is what made them famous!
“read it to see what’s in it”?! No, that would be sensible. Please fix.
“pass it to see what’s in it”
Thanks, DonS.
. . . meanwhile, the elite class in Russia and China are rooting for the Green New Deal.
Simple:
Groupthink vs. Individualism
Part of the problem is that some Republicans are ideologically liberal, who will vote conservative is the vote means nothing, but if it’s a critical vote, they’ll find an excuse to go the other way. You have other Republicans who are afraid of being individually targeted. Republicans don’t have a good track record of supporting those under fire. Those who are true ideological conservatives, intelligent enough to survive, and brave enough to stand up to the inferno are in a minority.
Meanwhile, ideological liberals, socialists, and communists have spent the last 70 years taking over important positions in the Democrat party and have established a high degree of ideological purity.
Part of the problem is that some Republicans are ideologically liberal, who will vote conservative I[f] the vote means nothing
yes, they’re known as RINOs.
The Blue Wave crested due in part to never mentioning climate issues. The very canny Pelosi has seen to it that the refurbished Climate committee will be toothless. Democrats will be smart to avoid running with this albatross draped around their neck.
Bit of trivia: The albatross was actually a sign of good luck. It was the killing of the albatross that brought the sailors bad luck in the famous Coleridge poem.
That trivia, aside, you are correct that smart Democrats would be wise to avoid anchoring themselves to the climate change issue. They’ll give it lip service to keep the base happy, to be sure, but if they want to keep the independent middle voting for them they won’t actually do anything that their loony-green far-left ranks are calling for.
The key part of this post is “no House bill is likely to become law”, so get a snack and your favorite adult beverage and watch the show.
…and if we loose the Senate, we’re up shitscreek without a paddle
democrats will ram though every global warming bill you can think of
Funny thing… In 2009-2010, the Democrats had a super-majority in the House, a super-majority in the Senate and the worst president in US history occupying the White House. They barely managed to get Cap & Trade through the House and only because a handful of watermelon Republicans voted for it. It was never even seriously considered in the Democrat-controlled Senate.
Even though the Republicans have a lot of Senate seats up in 2020, almost all of them are in solidly Red States.
…but they did get it through
And now all those kids that have been brain washed on global warming…are 9 years older and can vote
Bingo!
Rhetoric in opposition is completely different from action when in power. In power, you risk riots in the streets and a voter revolt that throws you out of power if you actually do what you said you would do while in opposition.
I’ve said for well over a decade that climate change hysteria will die, not due to the public coming to understand the science, but to the reality that the cure is worse than the disease and the effects of the cure are rather obvious to the voter. The “cures” so far implemented are but a scratch on both the problem (if it exists) and the economy. Inflict a full wound and the price will be paid at the ballot box. The Dems know that, so they’ll huff and puff as long as they cannot actually implement their huffing and puffing.
If you like your policy, you can keep your policy
…if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor
it will be cheaper
I hope you’re right that the dems are just chasing temporary power and not ambitious enough to chase permanent power through socialist “reforms”. The thing is, whether they intend to implement Green New Deal schemes or just pass bill after bill that dies in the Senate, they are certainly going to milk climate change for all it’s worth over the next two years. Then if you’re right that they will be afraid of a gilets jaunes type of backlash, they will pass some cosmetic bills that they can claim solved the problem in the event of natural cooling or that need to be “strengthened” in the event of continued warming. The catastrophe for them would be natural cooling with no government program that “caused” the cooling. Of course I suppose they would try to credit the Europeans or something.
I must not lose sight of the fact that CAGW is non-falsifiable.
David, I don’t agree….they are in power now…and have ramped it up
…their base is youth and global warming
Conservatives better wake up…they will ram it down our throats
David, I don’t agree….they are in power now
Yes and no Lattitude. The are only in power in one half of Congress. period. Whatever they pass in the House has to make it to the floor of the Senate to be voted on. The Senate is under no obligation to bring any house bill to the floor, as we saw in the days when republicans controlled the house and were passing bill after bill and Harry Reid was the leader in the Senate refusing to bring any of those bills to the floor. Even if by some miracle they get to the floor in the Senate they need 60 votes to get past any potential filibuster and they don’t even have 50. And even if it somehow manages to pass the Senate the President still needs to sign it. So while they have the power to set the house agenda they do not have the power in the Senate or the Presidency and they need all three to pass their radical agenda.
…and have ramped it up
Indeed, and republicans were ramping up their attacks on Obamacare when Obama was the President, yet they failed to kill it outright once they finally got into power in all 3 (house, senate and president). Ramping up when you are the minority and actually doing something when you are in the majority are not necessarily the same thing. (and remember, they were fully in power and still only barely managed to get Obamacare through, imagine them trying to do that while only controlling the House – never would have made it to the presidents desk).
…their base is youth and global warming
Yes, and scary as that is, when youth get older and get into the real world, many of they actually grow up and realize the truth. Look at the youth of the radical 1960s, they grew up and elected Ronald Reagan as president.
Conservatives better wake up…they will ram it down our throats
On that I agree. Conservatives need to do a better job then they have been otherwise they’ll find themselves out of power (IE a house, senate and presidency controlled by the left-wing dems). It’s easier to block the radical left’s agenda when you control some of the levers of power. You can’t rely on the filibuster to protect you, as Harry Reid showed, the filibuster can easily be done away with when the left find it too inconvenient (even though that ended up biting them in the ass, don’t expect that fact to prevent them from doing so again)
Only with massive temperature adjustment fraud will GISTEMP and NCDC temps click upward. They will likely tick downward in 2019 and 2020 without that fraud by GISS and NOAA hacks.
And Winter 2019-2020 is likely to be sooooo damn (no El Nino and solar minimum in full effect) cold in the US lower 48 that no Dem politician in their right mind will touch Climate Change as an issue during the primaries.
Totalitarian Communists such as Mssr’s. Steyer and Soros … substantially funded the last round of Democreep Desperados (now that HER *ahem* Foundation $$$ has dried-up). So the entire Democreep Party is beholden to BIG Climate Change. Beholden to BIG Socialism in the guise of “existential threats”.
Beware the Socialist-Warming Complex!
The Democrats have been telegraphing their punches since the election.
1. Investigate the POTUS and his family and business associates some more and try to impeach is possible.
2. Block the building of the wall or any real immigration reform.
3. Climate Change and all the expansion of government power and increased taxation that comes with it.
4. Gun Control to the maximum.
5. Restoration of the individual mandate for Obama Care.
I don’t see a single one of them being a winner.
The first, is a losing proposition. The second, a statistically significant minority are not concerned about preserving civil rights or the first-order causes of immigration reform. The third, don’t underestimate the number of people who will indulge in conflation of logical domains and accept the prophecy of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming, After all, the motto of her Church is: In Stork they Trust, which, among other things, justifies the wicked solution. The fourth, they probably don’t care when the population is well integrated, and it will be neighbor against neighbor, brother against sister, child against parent, in close proximity. As for the fifth, quick fixes, positive perceptions, and good feelings are in democratic demand.
So, what do the People really want? Is it selective-child? Is it labor arbitrage? Is it security and peace-of-mind?
What would it take to convince people that science is, with cause, a near-domain philosophy?
The individual mandate was ignored by the Obama administration and tax penalties were not collected. Will Pelosi seize 20 somethings bank accounts when they can’t pay?
My daughter had to pay $540 in tax penalties over the ACA, Grant, so I doubt your claim!
Your daughter is an honest taxpayer.
Beyond your daughter’s honesty, however, it is true that Obama delayed the collecting of the tax penalty for several years. It wasn’t until 2015 IIRC that his administration started collecting it, and even then they’d put in place a number of exemptions that one could claim to avoid paying it.
rah, none of their legislation initiatives are going to get into law in the next two years. The Senate will block them (and if somehow they manage to get to the floor of the senate, overcome a filibuster and get a passing vote in the senate, the president will veto). so 3-5 are non-starters.
That only leaves 1 & 2. They’re certainly going to make themselves as much of a nuisance as possible with #1, but they won’t seriously impeach if they are smart (oh some of their more radical members will issue an attempt from time to time, as they did in the last congress, but it’ll likely go nowhere) and remember what happened when the republicans impeached Clinton – they lost seats in the house and senate the following election.
As for #2, they certainly will try to block, as we see with the current shutdown. The only question is who caves first the Dems or Trump. It could be a very long shutdown.
Catastrophic. Carbon or Carbon Dioxide?
What does she have Planned? Another wicked solution, perhaps.
Fanatics tend to double down on their obsessions when it appears they are losing. Pelosi, and especially Ocasio Cortez, cannot learn anything from the gilets jaune riots, or why they happened.
From the demo-totalitarian viewpoint, it’s 4th down and inches, two seconds on the clock in the 4th quarter, down by two field goals.
If they don’t convert here, a generation of preparation and agitprop could be all down the tubes. The game may be over and they may have to invent a completely new vehicle for world socialism. But one final push, and maybe, just maybe…
Expect two years of unprecedented lies and deception. They have to prevent Trump’s re-election before even the millennials realize that climate doomsday stories are nonsense.
Imagine if they fail, and for the next six years, they can’t implement any energy rationing schemes to eliminate individual freedom and build up a totalitarian superstate. Then they will not be able to claim that the likely coming natural climate cooling is the fruit of their successful schemes. Worse yet, even public school students will readily grasp that CO2 continued to go up, but temperature didn’t follow the doomsday projections.
yes. accurate analysis, mr Rich Davis.
in parallel with that –
if they lose the bet, they still lock in the congregation
“Expect two years of unprecedented lies and deception.”
France has had 35 years of lies and deception, culminating in these fools like Macron and Hollande.
The entire basis of the grandstanding and hot air which propelled Macron into his disastrous presidency & his PARIS ACCORD is based on mountains of lies.
Britain has a political and media system so completely saturated with lies and deceptions, starting with Thatcher’s war on carbon then started the infinite improbability drive called the Hadley Centre for Forecasting, which of course seeded the IPCC.
Blair and Brown then saw a perfect opportunity to lie themselves into introducing the “stealth taxes” and the devastating numbers of CCTV, on the basis of “climate change” and “security”.
A surveillance state that claims to recognise the lastest EU legislation “General Data Protection Regulation (EU) 2016/679 ” but drives a coach and horses through it with police suveillance, helicopters, ANPR, facial recognition software, DNA, and fingerprint database obesessions is the next step.
Control freaks cannot function any other way.
I keep shouting at everyone in France to WAKE UP NOW!
You need a proper insurrection.
Here is your chance to SMASH the whole system.
Fact is,- if Macron is rumbled in the next weeks, that his Paris accord is fake, his climate change religion is fake, and the whole lot is a pack of cards, the French government will fall.
If that were to happen it would cause an earthquake in Brexit Britain, and in Pelosi’s USA government depts.
Pigs_in_space—
You are closer to this than I am. Maybe you can comment?
It’s my understanding that the gilets jaunes are focused on making the rich pay for them to have a comfortable lifestyle, not necessarily that many of them recognize that climate change is overblown. The main attitude seems to be, sure climate change is a big problem so the rich need to fix it. They got wealthy ignoring the risks of CO2. Now they pay, not us.
Thoughts? You are a UK person living in France?
“the gilets jaunes are focused on making the rich pay for them to have a comfortable lifestyle”
NO, the final straw that started the rebellion was the continual jacking up of the diesel price, on the Macronism that CO2 is a deadly poison and the Paris accord demands great sacrifices.
People don’t question this utter bollox, because the have been brain washed into believing “the science is settled”, and any dissent in places like the CNRS has been muzzled.
After 2 consecutive price rises, one where crude price actually rose, but the next one arriving when crude prices fell, the Macron new dogma was forbidding cars over a certain age from entering Paris centre, to be echoed rapidly by the same in most other French cities..
This angered more who could not afford public transport even it it existed where they live..
Macron then had the nerve to tell them to buy a new car if there old one had been made obsolete by their crappy new laws, reinforcing the correct perception he is “President of the rich”, and his references to himself as “president Jupiter”.
The slogan “we are worried about the end of the month, not the end of the world” shows the CO2 scam is now well indoctrinated and penetrated into French psych after years of constant media propaganda by all the TV chaines + meteo France.
” not necessarily that many of them recognize that climate change is overblown. The main attitude seems to be, sure climate change is a big problem so the rich need to fix it. ”
NO, the rebellion has come mainly from rural parts where public transport is nigh on non existent and worsening.
It’s a grass roots movement from all over the provinces because a) for years the government told them to buy the small diesel cars that peugeot/renault are specialised in, b) small retailing in the countryside have died, forcing people who still have a driving licence after a quadrupling of speeding cameras and drop of speed limits to a ridiculous 50mph level in 2018, to distant super markets/services c) public services such as hospitals and schools have closed, concentrating them in large cities long distances away.
Rural people cannot survive without the small diesel car made popular and encouraged for decades by successive French governments.
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France has a severe problem of desertification of the countryside, which is being worsened a)Many rural communities are dependent on British expats which are being made to feel unwelcome by first that idiot Hollande, and now Macron with his idiotic ENA bureacrats and Barnier who would punish Britain for Brexit…..
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b) the closure of French businesses and their forced movement to “low cost” countries in Eastern Europe which has increased resentment about the EU not working for the lower middle and working class…
“They got wealthy ignoring the risks of CO2. Now they pay, not us.”
NO, the entire country has been indoctrinated by lies and the AGW scam resulting in massive installations of wind farms all over the countryside.
U can’t get away from them, some of them literally sited right next door to successful NPP installations such as Tricastin Nuclear Power Plant, as if to try to make a point.
What point?
France had a massive WIN with the Nuclear electric powered TGV, then overinvested too fast, pushed the SNCF into near bankrupcy, closed all the night trains pushing up prices,(thanks to EU interference & the management not listening to customers) then blamed the staff. The Staff got totally p..ssd off pushing them over the edge.
Months and months of SNCF strikes in 2018 (supported by the already angry population) crippled sectors of the economy, and pushed the entire country into a ready psychology of “them against us”.
“You are a UK person living in France”
I have dual national family members, even one of my sons, repeats the “climate change” mantra.
They & the BBC have brain washed him, into believing even the gulf stream is disappearing in Devon & Cornwall.
Another relative works in KEW,-
same problem, same bollox, same indoctrination spewing out, the species all dying, same crap as John Houghton spews about “sustainability” and carbon being a killer, despite the fact it’s what makes Kew’s arboretum grow.
Thanks for your extensive comments. You’re English is quite impressive as a non-native speaker.
In hindsight my phrasing was a bit biased I think. But maybe you can agree with this summary from your point of view?
The gilets jaunes protesters are mostly not skeptics of the climate change “consensus”. They are aggrieved by many years of government economic programs that have favored urban elites to their detriment. Their ranks are filled mostly by the rural population and the middle- to lower-middle class urban workers. Their complaints are economic and cultural in nature. They are squeezed to the point where they cannot make ends meet, or at least they can see that their standard of living is being eroded greatly. The feeling is that the burden on society due to a response to climate change is not being shared fairly by all citizens. But also they are offended by insults to their dignity when elites treat them unfairly.
Is that a more accurate summary?
The amazing thing about France is that it actually has very low carbon emissions, due to mostly nuclear power and not much natural gas consumption. Similarly low CO2 in New Zealand, but the green mind must have funny wiring, making them obsessed about making “a contribution”, hence French attacks on the lifeblood of the rural economy, and similar obsession in NZ with their vital agricultural sector.
Are we living through a green zombie movie? … with the zombies holding the baseball bats.
Many, but not all, Politicians understand that Climate Change is not on most voters’ radar. When the eco loonies went from conservation to politics they lost a large part of their following and they believe constant haranguing of the masses will return them to the fold. Fortunately the people understand that burning down the village to save it is not an option.
Pelosi and her trained seals are not likely to get anything past the senate or Trump. I expect McConnell will do what Reid did to the Republican house, and just put the bills that Pelosi sends to the senate in his desk, and refuse to bring them to the senate for a vote.
Heck… Harry Reid did that with the Cap & Trade bill that the House Democrats passed in 2009…
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https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060039422
The only way Pelosi and the Democrats will get anything done over the next two years is to make a deal with President Trump and the Senate Republicans. Otherwise, the House can pass as much legislation as they want and it will all go to the U.S. Senate where it will die of neglect. Like the hundreds of pieces of Repubican House legislation that are over there now being neglected because Republicans can’t get 60 votes in the Senate.
Nancy can talk tough but nothing is going to happen without the cooperation of President Trump.
Everything from the previous congress automatically dies when the congress adjourns.
There is nothing languishing in the Senate at present. Not until the House passes something this term.
George Carlin – wonderful clear thinker,his death was a sad loss to the world
“What does this mean for people with real jobs?”
They’ll have to work at least 2, in order to cope with the increased tax burden?
According to congresswoman signorina Cortez they already are working two jobs.
To be something of a pedant, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez is using the formal Spanish name system, so the US version shortening her name would be Ocasio, not Cortez.
My grandfather went by Ferdinand Halla, not Fernando F.F. J. Halla Cruz.
Thank you tom, I wasn’t aware of that and appreciate your correction.
Now that she is in congress will she be prepared to state to the house that “everybody has two jobs”?
Wouldn’t the formal Spanish version be Ocasio y Cortez?
I think the hyphen is an Americanized version.
I was going off the form used by current Mexican politicians, such as the new president, Lopez Obrador, or the last president, Peña Nieto. I have seen both ways used for the full family name.
My father-in-law uses the “y”. My wife, who retained her last name, didn’t use it at all. Then, out of the blue, when she renewed her drivers’ licence, her mother’s maiden name was appended to her last name with a hyphen. Either way, your point was correct. The first last name is the one to use, in a shortened version.
Well, at least it’s just an existential crisis, and not a real one. But it will trigger a real crisis in the economic climate if enough real dollars are wasted on it.
Yes, and as I said before on a thread about AOC, existential means real or exists and even if used in the philosophical sense, actually weakens the “threat” because it implies that it is only in her own head. The cliche – existential threat – doesn’t mean mortal threat or threat to existence, it may have come to mean ‘deadly threat’ but it actually means ‘threat that exists’ full stop… period!
Where is Brad Keyes! He should be all over this – as Bart Simpson so aptly worded it on Whacking Day – “like Oprah on a baked ham”.
You’ve got all the ingredients: the interconnectedness of all things, Being in Nothingness, turtle-necked sweaters, Camus and Albert of I Heart Huckabees, Sartre, de Beauvoir, Heidegger, the French, the German, the Left Bank, Romanticism and Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency…etc, etc 😉
Here is kind of hysteria they are spreading:
“In the long term, the future of the human race might be at stake. We only need to look at the other planets to see what can occur if the delicate balance of nature’s thermostat is upset. Venus orbits the sun with a radius about three-quarters that of Earth, yet it has a surface temperature of 864 degrees Fahrenheit, higher than Mercury’s. The reason is that the atmosphere of Venus is about 96 percent carbon dioxide. The more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the more heat is trapped, and the hotter the planet. (Mercury has almost no atmosphere.)”
The man who wrote that is Kenneth Hicks who claims to be a professor of physics and astronomy at Ohio University in Athens. Lord knows what he is teaching his poor students.
Oh I love the subtle touch. It’s a “delicate balance”. That’s to anticipate any concern that 0.04% is so much less than 96% that there should be no comparison. In the delicate balance paradigm, going from 0.028% to 0.041% could push us over a tipping point even if previously we had a glaciation initiated naturally at 0.4%. You see, it was a different delicate balance back then.
Bottom line is that any move we make is liable to be catastrophic unless properly directed by the totalitarian state.
Venus orbits the sun with a radius about three-quarters that of Earth, yet it has a surface temperature of 864 degrees Fahrenheit, higher than Mercury’s. The reason is that the atmosphere of Venus is about 96 percent carbon dioxide
Mars atmosphere is about 95% CO2 (nearly the same percentage as Venus), which explains why Mars has surface temperatures in the hundreds of degrees Fahrenheit…. Wait a minute, it’s damn cold on Mars with annual mean temperatures at the surface of < 210 K (−63 °C; −82 °F). Kenneth Hicks is a hack.
OK, what do they do. Do they ban fracking? Increase subsidies for renewables? Mandate certain % of renewables? Subsidies for EV and increased fuel economy mandates? And when do these things come into effect. Obama was very clever that all the bad consequences of his actions were to happen after he left scene.
All the green stuff if very unpopular if people know they actually have to pay for it. So how can it be hidden?
Yes Michael. I have a cousin that thinks she is doing her part by separating her trash.
You do that in Australia only to have your local council collection simply join the two back up and shove in landfill 🙂
China stopped accepting all foreign recycling waste and we have no real local industries economically viable to process it, so your recycle bin is really just another general waste bin.
And the biggest laugh is China said our rubbish was too dirty for them. How insult.
yeah i dont bother using the recycle one, I also dont have much to throw out, all glass jars are saved for preserving/dry storage or nuts n bolts etc
chooks eat food waste as do dogs,
cardboard gets used for weed supression
small amt of plastics get reused if bags and saved for firelighters when yucky damaged etc
an entire summers worth of plastic waste only lasts a few weeks as firelighter.
pet bottles are garden plant waterers or dog chews;-) sometimes both;-/
“OK, what do they do. Do they ban fracking? Increase subsidies for renewables? Mandate certain % of renewables? Subsidies for EV and increased fuel economy mandates?”
I think before the Democrats start trying to make changes in the good ole USA, they need to get the situation with China and India, who have no restrictions on their CO2 output, straightened out first, because if they don’t, then the U.S. will be wasting its time reducing CO2 output since every reduction in CO2 in the USA will be offset by increases in CO2 from China and India. The Democrats better get busy, they only have 12 years to save us from China and India’s unfettered CO2 production..
The existential thread is climate alarmism driven by broken science and supported by scientifically ignorant politicians and others who can’t think for themselves.
The existential threat of our time is socialist democrats.
Great, small, or nothing at all, we can not avoid the impact of increasing CO2. As long as Asia and Africa are electrifying, CO2 is going to increase. We have lost the war on trying to control CO2. We need to refocus the CO2 crazies on mitigation.
People in the third world may be poor. But, they are not stupid. They can build 1,000 MW of wind and 980 MW of dispatchable power like coal, natural gas, nuclear, or hydro for backup. Or, they can just build the dispatchable power.
The greatest existential threat of our time is progressivism/Marxism of which AOC is championing.
Climate Change is just a ruse to extract money from the gullible.
Sorry, a bit over the top, but this joke just sums it up perfectly:
Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez was found frozen to death in a convertible at a drive in movie theater…
What movie did she want to see?
“Closed for the Winter”
LOL
Let’s have a show of hands for all readers that have been to a drive-in movie?
I’ll go first.
Next guess whether or not Alexandra has even seen one of these places?
I’d guess no.
Cute joke, however, to those of us that have watched such a movie
from a couch in the back of a pick-up truck.
Bob Seeger “Night Moves”
“Night Moves”
I was a little too tall
Could have used a few pounds
Tight pants points, hardly renown
She was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes
And points all her own sitting way up high
Way up firm and high
Out past the cornfields where the woods got heavy
Out in the back seat of my ’60 Chevy
Working on mysteries without any clues
Working on our night moves
Trying to make some front page drive-in news
Working on our night moves
In the summertime
In the sweet summertime
We weren’t in love, oh no, far from it
We weren’t searching for some pie in the sky summit
We were just young and restless and bored
Living by the sword
And we’d steal away every chance we could
To the backroom, to the alley or the trusty woods
I used her, she used me
But neither one cared
We were getting our share
Working on our night moves
Trying to lose the awkward teenage blues
Working on our night moves
And it was summertime
Sweet summertime summertime
And oh the wonder
We felt the lightning
And we waited on the thunder
Waited on the thunder
I awoke last night to the sound of thunder
How far off, I sat and wondered
Started humming a song from 1962
Ain’t it funny how the night moves
When you just don’t seem to have as much to lose
Strange how the night moves
With autumn closing in
Ah, those summer nights. I wouldn’t mind trying to keep young Ms. AOC warm in that situation.
AOC is just a dumber, crazier, less-wealthy version of Pelosi. She is a nothing more than a puppet — some wizard behind the curtains is pulling her strings. AOC is a Manchurian Candidate
AOC is like the Kennedy kids, “Beto” O’Rourke, George ‘W’Bush, John F’ing Kerry, et al. Otherwise worthless spawn or spawn-in-law to wealthy parents who see that these folks have no marketable skills and figure that they can get something out of them by purchasing a political office for them.
At least one of them has an occasional cortex. The boiler is just batshit crazy.
1. Climate change is taking place so slowly that it takes networks of sophisticated sensors decades to even detect it. It is the same climate change that has been taking place for eons. One must be careful to not mix up weather cycles, which are part of the current climate, with true climate change. There is no climate crises.
2. According to the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which Mankind has no control. Mankind does not have the power to stop the Earth’s climate from changing but even if we could stop the Earth’s climate from changing, extreme weather events and sea level rise would continue because they are part of the current climate. We do not even know what the optimum climate is. There is no climate crises.
3. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. There is plenty of scientific rationale to support the idea that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So even if we could eliminate all the CO2 in the Earth’s atmosphere and in so doing ending life as we know it on this planet, the effort would have no effect on climate. It is all a matter of science.
4, For those that believe in a radiant greenhouse effect, the primary greenhouse gas is H2O and not CO2, Efforts to reduce CO2 emissions will have no significant effect on the Earth’s overall radiant greenhouse effect and hence no significant effect on climate.
5. The AGW conjecture is based on only partial science and is full of holes. For example the AGW conjecture depends upon the existence of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by trace gases in the Earth’s atmosphere with LWIR absorption bands. Such a radiant greenhouse effect does not exist in a real greenhouse, in the Earth’s atmosphere or anywhere else in the solar system for that matter. The radiant greenhouse effect is science fiction so hence the AGW conjecture is science fiction as well. The climate crises is nothing but science fiction. This is all a matter of science.
The way to power is by building factions. Democrats are very good at this. Climate change is just another faction which they don’t care about, but gives them votes.
Nancy has made a living promising birthers citizenship.
President Trumps Helicopter Presser this morning. Not a word about climate change in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0I6b5XTxQE
I can’t remember any other president that has allowed so much time so frequently on these occasions to take questions from the press.
No president has ever given the newsmedia the access Trump has given them.
I watched that question and answer sesssion you refer to and Trump answers question after question. Then at the end he says “any more”?
I was watching the president live on Fox News Channel and I wondered if the other cable channels were covering this so I switched to MSNBC and they were not covering it, they were having a discussion about something unrelated, and then I turned to CNN and there was a commercial running. So I turned back to Fox and listened to the rest of the questions and answers.
I’m betting if President Obama was answering questions from the press that both MSNBC and CNN would have covered every word.
These Leftwing propaganda outfits are a great danger to our form of government because they deceive the public and create false realities that confuse and scare people and cause them to vote against their own interests. They make the easily influenced think socilaism is something good and desirable.
“These Leftwing propaganda outfits…” are “extremely dangerous to our democracy!”:
https://youtu.be/ZggCipbiHwE
😉
I think the POTUS likes the less formal impromptu formats for his pressers. It’s just part of the way he operates but also gives the likes of Jim Acosta far less opportunities to grandstand and hog the mic. BTW I think the POTUS does his best work in the morning.
Pelosi, in her dementia, and aided by the climate extremist’s derangement, will soon find out that controlling a majority of one House of one Branch does not mean they get to set the agenda.
This massive waste of political capital means they will miss real opportunities.
Recently the Dementia in Chief declared that as leader of the House, the Constitution makes her equal in power to the President.
In actuallity, it is the Legislative Branch that is co-equal to the Executive Branch, and Nancy is only the leader of one half of that branch.
Yes, everybody knows that the Speaker of the House, appoints federal justices and has a cabinet they appoint, makes and ratifies treaties, has veto power over bills passed through congress, is the CNC of the military, is chief administrator of the various departments and agencies of the US government, is chief diplomat of the United States, etc, etc, etc…….
Nancy Palsy off script again.
The House has no role in selecting judges or cabinet officers. It has no role approving treaties.
The only goody that the House was given was that spending bills are supposed to start there. A requirement that has been observed mostly in the breach in recent decades.
It can be argued that controlling the House is a less powerful position than controlling the Senate. At best, Nancy has 30 to 40% as much power as does the President. So much for her claim of being equal in power.
MarkW
Sadly, in today’s climate of extremist hatred and utter irrational emotional control by the socialist-Marxist-leftists ruled by Pelosi, it takes only two assassinations to make Pelosi ruler-of-all-she-surveys. And, with today’s ABCNNBCBS national press corpse, those two assassinations would be praised by Washington’s remaining insiders, atheists and Muslims, and their globalist allies.
UE under 4%, record low unemployment for blacks and Hispanics, real wages rising for the first time in years, yet the leader of the Sunrise Movement thinks the economy is broken. Just another reason I cannot take these clowns seriously.
“We’ve got to find a way that we can accommodate our goals and not be seen as anti-business”(Henry Cuellar (D-Texas).
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The Climate-Industrial Complex is turning capitalism into corporatism gradually eroding individual prospects and freedom, facilitated by a compliant MSM.
In 2005 Robert Conquest wrote:
“… In addition to the current international changes and challenges, there is a tendency in the West to move in the direction of a non-totalitarian but nevertheless single-minded corporatism—stultifying and intrusive on law and liberty.
The long-term prospect, in fact, is what a French commentator has called “pink Fascism.” There is no need of a monolithic party if the effective apparat is in general agreement, makes the same assumptions. The totalitarian attempt to control all aspects of life was untenable in the long run. A far greater leeway on small matters, even disagreement on tactics, is much more viable.
This dilute corporatism does not exclude a contest of political parties. But these parties have become more and more alike, differing only on what would have been thought peripheral in earlier days …”.
The greatest danger to humanity has always been politicians who can make others pay for their narcissism. “Climate” will never come close.
Are you kidding me? Existential crisis. “Existential” is one of those words you hear from self adulating people who want to impress others of their superior intellect. I.e., they want to hear themselves talk. I remember hear this word first in Philosophy 101 in undergraduate school … existential philosophy as in whyy-yy are we even here on earth… what is the purpose of my own individual existence in this unfathomable universe and we should worry about the plight of individuals who must assume ultimate responsibility for acts of free will without certain knowledge of what is right or wrong or good or bad. OMFG.
In Nancy Palsy’s case it is a word fed to her by aids. You can always tell when her comments don’t come from a script by the deer in the headlights look, stuttering, stammering, and intervals where she stares into space saying nothing.
And we only had 10 years to save ourselves IN NINETEEN EIGHTY NINE.
The science is settled, but our understanding of the science is still evolving. /sarc
They say it is existential…but they describe it like it is a phantasmagorical threat. Constantly changing and morphing, but definitely anything WEATHER that is BAD, is because of the phantom menace caused by Capitalism running amok.
…..’“This committee is toothless and weaker than the first Climate Select Committee from a decade ago, and it does not get us meaningfully closer to solving the climate crisis or fixing our broken economy,” said Varshini Prakash, the movement’s co-founder, in a statement…’
Broken economy? Huh.
The U.S. economy seems to be doing pretty good (from what I’ve heard and read) for a broken system. I am wondering what exactly it is in the economy that Varshini Prakash feels needs fixing…..probably the elimination of fossil fuels.
Job openings here in Wisconsin are going begging. Companies are even advertising those openings on TV or with signs in front of their offices. Being disconnected from the reality can be a real bummer.
This salary truck driver just got a $150.00 per week raise. And I know who to thank for the conditions that made that possible and it isn’t Nancy or Obama.
All the money is going to people who work, not activists and college professors. Therefor the economy is broken and must be fixed via government fiat.
“The U.S. economy seems to be doing pretty good (from what I’ve heard and read) for a broken system.”
That’s exactly how it’s broken. The Democrats don’t want a thriving economy, they want people reliant on government handouts to survive.
Sadly, maybe what is required is for the dems and liberals in Can. To pass some of their loony legislation so that the people will really get angry and put an end once and for all to this lunacy of calling CO2 pollution etc.
Climate Action policies are the biggest existential threats we face as a society. They are a graver threat than than the invasion from the south.
Batshit crazy Democrats like Ms. O-C and Ms Tlaib are the gifts that keeps on giving to Trump and the Republicans. When they make the original batshit crazy Democrat, that is Nancy Pelosi, seem like the voice of moderation, we know things will go well for Republicans at the next election.
From your mouth to God’s ear…
But I don’t have a high level of confidence. Much depends on a continued strong economic performance.
You can be sure if economic growth hits 5% and then drops back to 4.95%, the propaganda ministry, er, news media will be talking about the Trump Depression. Or if it just keeps improving, the jobs will be called low-paying, dead-end jobs.
For Trump to pull off a win in PA, or WI without a tone deaf Hillary Clinton in the race taking those states for granted, seems very highly unlikely. Only if the economy is roaring and the dems are promising to destroy it will I become an optimist.
If you think a half-brain Kamala Harris or Pochantas can appeal to white, blue-collar workers in PA or WI, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. The straight white guys like Bullock, Biden, or Hickenlooper would be a serious, real threat in the general election to Trump/Pence. But they have about as much chance in Democratic Primaries as Bernie does to get the nom, and he’s not even a registered Democrat.
Hold on a sec, I’m gonna get me a beer.*
😉
*Elizabeth Warren
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1080554654352793609
Hold on a sec, I’m gonna get me a beer.*
*Elizabeth Warren
who does she think she is, Brett Kavanaugh? 😉
Uncle Joe’s been a laughing stock for a generation. I can’t see him being a serious general election threat.
“Stand up Chuck”
The sad thing is, the other prospective contenders for the Dem nomination (Fauxahantis, Creep Porn lawyer, Spartacus and the tears of rage Booker, Crooked Hillary, et al) actually make old uncle Joe look like a reasonable candidate. If I was voting in the Dem Primary and was given a choice of all the people who have been touted as potential candidates, Uncle Joe would look the one of the few sane choices in the bunch.
Rich Davis
When it comes to the economy the number most Americans care about above all others is that of the dollars going into their pockets. All the others are window dressing. There are many more cards being played that are going to continue bring that most important economic figure up. Cards the general media refuse to report or discuss. Here is just one aspect of several of this type:
I urge everyone to take the time to read this fairly comprehensive description of what is going on
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/01/06/u-s-preliminary-trade-delegation-arrives-in-china-for-initial-discussions-of-technical-details/
The multinationals that have been fighting this have just taken their best shot, helping to create the conditions that resulted in the massive “correction” in the US stock market. The effects will not be lasting by any means and the market is recovering nicely.
It’s long past time for a fully coordinated, concerted and robust pushback against these climate loon-buckets.
Sceptics continue to play fair with logic, rationale and reason but guess what? – those tactics are useless against activist alarmists.
Sceptics should be targeting the sensible public and remorselessly humiliating alarmists. The alternative is allowing the Pelosi’s of this world to dictate policy and down that road lies a far more likely disastrous outcome.
We can’t build a wall on the border to help stop the illegal activity that threatens us, but we must build a wall against the imaginary enemy of climate change that will cost orders of magnitude more, drastically raise taxes, and do virtually nothing to affect the climate. Talk about straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel…
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter
Earthday 1970.
Professor Gunter must have been invoking the horrors of human-caused Global Cooling (CAGC) if he said this back in 1970. That was the fad back then because the temperatures kept getting cooler and cooler. Then, when the temperatures started warming in the next decade, the fearmongers switched over to citing the horrors of human-caused Global Warming (CAGW). The doomsters are going to get us coming and going.
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” — Kenneth Watt.
The same Earth Day as above.
Thanks for the quote, BruceC. 🙂
Then, when the temperatures started warming in the next decade, the fearmongers switched over to citing the horrors of human-caused Global Warming (CAGW).
Indeed, and funnily enough the cause (man’s emissions) and the solutions (reduce the population, give all your money and freedom to one world government) remained the same.
It’s easy to make fun of Pelosi and Ocasio-Cortez, but remember: they have plenty of power (probably more than any of us reading WUWT) so they must be taken seriously. The damage they and their fellow travelers will cause could take decades to repair.
Pelosi came out the other day claiming that she has equal power to the POTUS.
Apparently, like her protege, she doesn’t understand the “three chambers of Congress”
Has she ever looked in a mirror?
Or maybe she has but can’t see herself?
(Like that other bloodsucker of legend.)
So why don’t the Dems follow the Royal Society, NAS report question 20 and answer?
If they believe this and their alarmist scientists they should tell the voters that WE can’t change temps for a thousand years and co2 levels for many more thousands of years.
That’s IF WE STOP ALL EMISSIONS TODAY. Fat chance of that happening, just ask China, India and the (soaring emissions) non OECD countries.
So are the Dems really true believers or not. Here’s question 20 and their answer, certainly endless trillions $ at stake for a ZERO return on this lousy investment. OH that’s if THEY truly believe this joint Royal Society+ NAS study
https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-20/
We have to clear our message. Make really simple. Such that ordinary people understand it.
1. Climate change is natural and very slow
2. It is beneficial to plants, animals and mankind
3. Carbon taxes and carbon trade are massive wealth transfers from poor to rich
4. and their impact is extremely low and unsure.
5. It is better to use our money to cope with the weather conditions that nature brings us
6. People’s future will be great and prosperous
7. Hydrocarbon and nuclear power solutions will improve in the future
Getting temperatures back to what they were during the Medieval Warm Period is going to end life on Earth?
The alarmists have lost all connection with any form of reality known to science.
What she should have said was:
“We must … face the existential threat of our time: the stupidity crisis, …”
I’m not sure what the best strategy for the Republicans would be.
To put climate realists on this panel in a vain attempt to eliminate the weirdest stuff before it gets out of committee.
Put their own climate alarmists on the panel in hopes that the results of the panel are so incredibly off the wall that it completely discredits the Democrats and climate alarmism. Especially knowing that the weirdest stuff has little chance of getting past the whole House and no chance of passing the Senate.
“I’m not sure what the best strategy for the Republicans would be.”
By far the best “counter” would be to propose $10 billion or more in funding to be spread among companies trying to construct low-cost fusion-power plants. Trump might go for it.
Finally, Fusion Power Is About to Become a Reality
Long considered a joke, or a pipe dream, fusion is suddenly making enormous leaps
Brian Bergstein Medium (blog)
https://medium.com/s/2069/finally-fusion-power-is-about-to-become-a-reality-c6b8b5915cf5
Here’s the 2006 Vinther et al study of Greenland’ s long instrumental temp record. This is a very long study over 200 years and co-authors are prominent alarmist UK scientists Dr Jones and Dr Briffa.
Looking at temps over this long period we find that much earlier decades are warmer than the last few decades and they even hold up well against some of the decades over one hundred years ago back in the 1800s.
Here’s the link and TABLE 8. So what will be their excuse when the AMO changes to the cool phase, perhaps sometime in the 2020s? Or has it started already? Who knows?
https://crudata.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/greenland/vintheretal2006.pdf Here is TABLE 8 from the study comparing decades over this long period of time. But best to view TABLE 8 from the link.
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Simple solution for these shrill climate shills and there’s no special committee needed: Just walk the talk by walking and not using petroleum or any other CO2 producing things if you truly believe that CO2 is causing a climate catastrophe. Don’t use coal-fired electricity, petrochemical plastics, food that is transported to you or creates any CO2 (that includes break rising and baking it), any transit that uses petroleum as the energy or lubrication, any heating or cooling that requires electricity, and so on and so on.
At present in the UK the MSM are having a field day promoting Veganism.
Vegans will have nothing to do with anything that they believe exploits animals, so no meat, milk and milk products, no wool, no beekeeping.
I haven’t worked out how they deal with pests that affect themselves and their vegetable and cotton crops.
No companion animals, especially as cats cannot survive on a vegan died, they must have some meat or fish.
How does one survive as a vegan Inuit or Masai?
Nevertheless less these people seem to be the ideal candidates for trying out zero fossil fuel use.
Oops, how do they get on without fabrics made from fossil fuels? Maybe they should move to a nudist colony in the Carribbean!
“We must … face the existential threat of our time: the Ocasio-Cortez crisis,” Pelosi said in her opening address to Congress Thursday. “The entire Congress must work to put an end to the inaction and denial of science that threatens the Pelosi future.”
Suddenly she discovers the word “SCIENCE”? Who lent her a dictionary?
What worries me is describing Occasional- Cortex and Pelucida as “progressives” along with all the other climate alarmist scammers. There is nothing progressive about people who are busily engaged in destroying the advances of the last hundred years and sending humanity back into poverty and misery on an epic scale. We really are on a blue planet in green chains.
Heh… its quite funny how suddenly climate has now become a crisis of the mind… Do any of these dingbat Democrats even understand what existential even means??
“it’s an existential crisis” – Dems
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” — Inigo Montoya
Pretty simple. Show me a body of someone who died from GMO’s, climate change, or eating sausage.
You ever hear of hurricane Sandy you SNIPPED
(Ever try to leave out the baseless name calling? your other one stays in moderation) MOD
I have also heard of a lot of hurricanes that happened before man released significant amounts of CO2. Apparently you are under the delusion that storms did not happen back then, which makes you opinion worthless.
Are you suggesting that hurricanes did not exist before the Industrial Revolution ? D’OH !
Sandy was not a Hurricane at land fall at it was weather and not climate, try getting an education.
You ever hear of hurricane Sandy
Yes, so? I’ve heard of lots of hurricanes going back centuries (long before man’s industrial use of fossil fuels is said to have taken control of the climate). hurricane sandy was a weather event and no individual weather event can be directly linked to climate change.
I would guess that Daniel would have to answer no to… “You ever hear of any hurricane of these hurricanes?”
http://www.geo.brown.edu/georesearch/esh/QE/Publications/GSAB2001/JDonnelly/Succotash/Succotach.pdf
Daniel might also be unaware of the climatic history of the North Atlantic…
Donnelly J. P., S. S. Bryant, J. Butler, J. Dowling, L. Fan, N. Hausmann, P. Newby, B. Shuman, J. Stern, K. Westover and T. Webb III. 700 yr Sedimentary Record of Intense Hurricane Landfalls in Southern New England. GSA Bulletin Volume 113 no. 6, pages 714 –727 (June 2001)
D. Keigwin, L. (1996). The Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period in the Sargasso Sea. Science (New York, N.Y.). 274. 1504-8. 10.1126/science.274.5292.1504.
It should be noted that it is good politics to showcase your stupidest policies immediately after an election; that way they are old news by the next election.
The idea is to convince activists that Democrats will take action on climate change initiatives (raise taxes, increase regulation, agree to international wealth transfers, build windmills, oppose coal) while letting more moderate voters believe that Democrats are simply pandering to the Left, and surely would not take action that is destructive to the economy.
What Democrats will actually do when in power depends on how far left they can push things. For them, climate change isn’t something to be addressed. Rather it’s something to be USED.
It’s the Speaker’s job to say nutty things for advocates periodically. It’s also predictable that a Party leader from California would push for bad public policy to make California look less bad by impairing the rest of the country. See you at the polls.
A rift between Miderate and Far Left factions is brewing in the Democrat Party.
Moderate Leftists like Pelosi and Schumer likely realize CAGW is crumbling, however, it is still a very useful tool to steal more taxpayer money and power in order to pretend they are saving the world from Warmageddon…
Far Leftists, however, are blind ideologues who actually believe CAGW is 100% real, and are willing to impose insanely destructive policies to save the world from the evil CO2 molecule…
Moderate Leftists now have to walk a narrow line of placating the Far Left without destroying the US and world economies…
Even the most moronic Moderate Leftist understands that: free college, huge carbon taxes, replacing all fossil fuels with wind and solar by 2030, Medicaid for all, 70% income taxes, guranteed jobs, free housing, etc., is economic suicide as the US already has a $22 trillion national debt, is running $1+ trillion/year budget deficits, and has $100+ trillion in unfunded liabilities…
All the Left needed to do is not act crazy and they just couldn’t do it…
Once CAGW becomes a laughingstock in about 5 years, the blowback against the Left for pushing the CAGW scam will be epic.
The very real threat is the policy not the climate.
Well, yeah, what’s this we stuff? Pelosi and the others are running around in fossil fueled vehicles, sit in the House powered by a coal fired energy plant, use tons of electricity, etc. I’ll believe it’s a crisis when the people who tell me it’s a crisis act like it’s a crisis in their own lives.