Al Gore Predicts a 2020 Political Climate Change Tipping Point

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

I guess after getting the science wrong so many times Al Gore feels safer predicting a political tipping point than another dodgy “Ice Free Arctic” prediction.

Al Gore: America Is Close to a ‘Political Tipping Point’ on Climate Change

The former vice president discusses how the politics of the environment have changed considerably over his decades of advocacy.

EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE
JAN 3, 2019

Isaac Dovere: Where do you see the politics of climate change right now?

Al Gore: I think that we are extremely close to a political tipping point. We may actually be crossing it right about now. The much-vaunted tribalism in American politics has contributed to an odd anomaly, in that the core of one of our political parties is uniquely—in all of the world—still rejecting not just the science, but also the messages from Mother Nature that have pushed toward, and perhaps are pushing across, this political tipping point right now.

More and more people on the conservative side of the spectrum are really changing their positions now. This election, in 2020, is almost certainly going to be different from any previous presidential election in that a number of candidates will be placing climate at or near the top of their agenda. And I think that by the time the first primary and caucus votes are cast a year from now, you’re going to see a very different political dialogue in the U.S.

The climate-related extreme-weather events are causing millions of people who had successfully pushed this issue into the background and into the projected distant future to now be finding ways to talk about it and to express their deep concern.

Dovere: When you were in politics and talking about climate change, you were made fun of for it. Is that weird to think about now?

Gore: Forty years ago, it was not easy to get people’s sustained attention for this looming crisis. It’s much easier now.

Read more: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/01/al-gore-q-climate-change-and-2020-democrats/579340/

The Democrat leadership certainly seems on board with Al Gore’s theory, their new Congressional climate committee is to be called “United States House Fellowship of the Climate Crisis Select Committee on the Climate Crisis“.

What do you guys think?

I’m aware far too many schools have been doing damage over the years by focussing on green indoctrination rather than education, trying to turn our kids into little eco-warriors, but despite this I am optimistic.

A funny thing happens after the kids graduate; they get their first set of bills, they run up debts and mortgages, and suddenly the importance of economic growth and the cost of expensive electricity and fuel becomes a lot more real to them.

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Richard
January 4, 2019 9:16 pm

I abase myself in abject humility in the presence of such erudite insight, such longsuffering tolerance in the face of brute ignorance from us, the unwashed unshriven mouth breathing drooling seething mass of uncomprehending hominoids. There is none wiser or more compassionate than the great Gore, may he live forever!

H.R.
Reply to  Richard
January 5, 2019 3:26 am

Al, it’s against site policy to post under another name.

Sara
Reply to  Richard
January 5, 2019 4:59 am

I just have a simple question about Algorebull: Can somebody sew his mouth shut?

He has been so wrong so many times, and is still in denial that he’s wrong about anyone. <- Nutball, denial of reality – whatever, he has gone from pompous dork to irrelevant, greedy for your cash, and a tiresome bore. If he is this desperate for attention – so much so that he has to show up and make pronouncements every XX months – he has a problem. He could fill that empty space by finding a new hobby, something that doesn't annoy the rest of us.

Goldrider
Reply to  Sara
January 5, 2019 6:40 am

Gore is nothing but a clown and a cliche’, now . . . and I doubt even 10 year olds take him seriously.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Sara
January 5, 2019 9:08 am

Silence, whippersnapper! The Great Goreacle has spoken!

Reply to  Sara
January 5, 2019 9:19 am

One of the world’s greatest theoretical scientists may have predicted what has come to pass regarding Al Gore: that he is a blathering insane person.

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results” — variation on quote often, but arguably, attributed to Albert Einstein (see https://www.quora.com/Did-Einstein-really-define-insanity-as-doing-the-same-thing-over-and-over-again-and-expecting-different-results )

Reply to  Gordon Dressler
January 5, 2019 12:18 pm

No, it is inarguable that it was attributed to him many years after his death.
First printed reference to him saying it is around 1990. Apparently someone just made it up, a la “a smart person once said”…and this was transmogrified into “Einstein once said…”
There is no specific written evidence that he ever said it.
And there is no printed reference to be found earlier than around 1981 or sometimes 1980 (AA) according to a source with poor attribution.
Earliest confirmed literary reference is a Narcotics Anonymous pamphlet from 1981.
It was soon picked up by AA around the same time, and is often attributed to them, is most likely.

Sara
Reply to  Sara
January 5, 2019 11:17 am

Could a new carnival ride be named after him? Not another roller coaster, mind you. It could be something more weird and repetitive, like a tracked ride spiraling downward almost endlessly, past blowing snow and wind tunnel rain, until you hit the bottom and come out in the water splash, amidst mountainous floating blobs of styrofoam and fake polar bears throwing fish at you.

Greebo
Reply to  Sara
January 8, 2019 5:18 pm

As long as hockey sticks feature somewhere.

McBryde
Reply to  Sara
January 5, 2019 1:54 pm

But plenty of people believe him (- I’m sure he’s not so stupid, after all this time, to actually believe it himself). There must be a lot of money going into his account.
I think his job is to advertise the product iname order to help his friends get the public into the state of mind where they’ll be prepared to get a lot poorer… and stop cluttering up the place with more undesirable ‘useless eaters’.

cedarhill
Reply to  Richard
January 5, 2019 5:44 am

The 2020 point was chosen because of the Presidentical campaign cycle and the huge effort to replace Trump with a Trudeau/Macron/Merkle class Lefty. All things in the world now revolve around removing Trump. Thus the tipping point of 2020. If Trump wins in 2020, the new tipping point will be either 2022 (Congressional races) or 2024 (Presidential race).
And they will likely win at one of the tipping points (elections) sometime in your lifetime. After all, they’ve got the education system, the culture, the traditional media and the Swamp. Imagine the Left controlling the Presidency, the Senate and the House.

Don Perry
Reply to  cedarhill
January 5, 2019 8:00 am

Some of them will literally be gone in a few years, but what’s really frightening is the young replacements that are just now beginning to be elected. They are the spawn of the Gore doctrine being pushed during their schooling — more radical and even more ignorant than Gore. I shudder to think how close this nutcase came to being president.

MarkW
Reply to  Don Perry
January 5, 2019 11:05 am

Occasional-Cortez has introduced a bill to increase the maximum tax rate to 70%.

Douglas C Kubler
Reply to  Don Perry
January 5, 2019 11:06 am

Fear not, Gen Z will be conservative.

According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later, is possibly the most conservative generation since World War II, and it is worrying that their impact has been completely overlooked during this election. While our fears might be preemptive, we should not make the mistake of disregarding the intriguing yet also possibly worrying world views of Generation Z.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#537602f07878

Rich Davis
Reply to  cedarhill
January 5, 2019 8:14 am

It has been just over 8 years since we last endured that state of affairs. Perhaps you forgot? I try to be optimistic about this. They’re so sure Trump’s a loser that they are going to go with Green Socialism.

Even though a Massachusetts politician hasn’t won anything nationally since 1960, they keep trying them…Dukakis, Kerry, Mittens (yeah yeah he wasn’t technically a Dem), and next up, the high-cheekboned Cherokee princess of political correctness, weighing in with 1/1024th of her genetic material sourced on the prairie, our blonde-haired, blue-eyed, transparent skinned, “woman of color”, Elizabeth…W A R R E N!

America is not going to elect Pocahontas or any of the other midgets lining up for the circus car.

pablo an ex Pat
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 5, 2019 2:32 pm

I prefer Picohontas to Pocahontas, it seems to be more mathematically fact based.

Scott
January 4, 2019 9:22 pm

He was wrong in 84,86,90,2000 and on. He will be wrong again

Reply to  Scott
January 5, 2019 12:09 am

Ah no, he will be right. We are close to a political tipping point on climate.

In 5 years it will be dead. As a political meme,

And as ‘science’.

It will quietly be allowed to faced from our consciousnesses to be replaced by TheNextBigScare™

What you Americans amusingly call ‘liberal’ politics has only one way to go if it is to survive – full totalitarianism. Essentially Fascism – an alliance between big corporates and the State to feed the electorate a carefully prepared diet of unadulterated wombat turds under the guise of it being a healthy and balanced diet, suitable for safe space cadets, intellectuals and other ideologues. And a strong nanny state to force it down your throat for your own good.

But I don’t think that will work.

Reply to  Leo Smith
January 5, 2019 2:23 am

Well said Leo, and well-written. Here is my similar analysis:

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/10/06/claim-judge-kavanaughs-adherence-to-rule-of-law-will-impede-climate-action/#comment-2482376
[excerpt]

… over 100 countries are pseudo-Marxist dictatorships, based on their leftist phony rhetoric, but are actually just military dictatorships, run for the ruling elite and their armed thugs…

The left gains political power by promising imbeciles lots of free stuff. Then they destroy the economy, create widespread poverty and live like kings atop a ruined state – because you can’t be kings without lots of peasants.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 5, 2019 6:05 am

MODS:

AWM’s comment, I believe is inappropriate.

Martin Sandberg
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 6, 2019 3:32 pm
Reply to  Scott
January 5, 2019 2:15 am

Scott wrote:
“He was wrong in 84,86,90,2000 and on. He will be wrong again.”

Well, at least Gore is consistent. 🙂

January 4, 2019 9:37 pm

For once Al Gore might be right when he predicts a 2020 Political Climate Change Tipping Point. By 2020, people may really be noticing the accelerating cooling down of the weather, the threadbare nature of the CAGW CO2 arguments and science and the mounting cost and futility of the band-aid ‘renewable’ energy solutions offered to solve the non-existent CO2 Climate threat.

Len Jay
Reply to  nicholas william tesdorf
January 4, 2019 10:25 pm

And when the greatest scam ever perpetrated upon the human race is finally exposed will Gore and his henchmen be brought to justice?

Reply to  Len Jay
January 4, 2019 10:57 pm

Yes, indeed there is a tipping point right now, both in Europe and in many other countries, perhaps not including the USA, Canada, and Australia?

But the political tipping direction is exactly 180 degrees to what Mr Gore predicts.

Perhaps the right terminology would be a “NEGATIVE TIPPING POINT”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Martin Hovland
January 5, 2019 8:27 am

“But the political tipping direction is exactly 180 degrees to what Mr Gore predicts.”

That is usually where Al Gore ends up: Facing 180 degrees away from the truth.

I don’t know how Al Gore shows his face in public after beig so wrong so many times. I guess he feels no shame. Or isn’t smart enough to realize he should feel shame for his ignorant, destructive utterances about CAGW.

I have news for you Al, Republicans are not going to be clamoring for remedial action on CAGW. Most of them don’t believe in it. I know that makes them deniers in your book, but hey, how can one believe in something when there is no evidence for it? That would be kind of silly. That’s what you do, Al.

Kenji
Reply to  Martin Hovland
January 5, 2019 9:24 am

Exactly. Al seems to have completely missed the yellow vest revolt? And if he believes the US energy rate payers haven’t noticed, then he’s even more deluded than I thought.

Sara
Reply to  Martin Hovland
January 5, 2019 12:02 pm

The more he shows up running the same carnival sideshow, the more I think Algorebull lives in a bubble of his own making.

Has he put out another begging letter yet? Or is it too early for that?

We’re having a very pleasant break in the cold, a chinook which will disappear in a day or two. I can warm the entire house by letting the sun stream in through the southern windows. Cuts my gas bill. We;ll be back to business as usual before long, but this is weather, not climate change.

But this numbskull opportunist Algorebull will twist a normal event like this into a non-existent disaster to scam money out of people.

What does it take to shut him up? Bury his Tennessee mansion in 50 feet of snow that doesn’t melt until July?

This just gets to be disgusting after a while.

Reply to  Martin Hovland
January 5, 2019 3:35 pm

That sounds about right. There is an effect that is named after Mr. Gore, ‘ The Gore Effect ‘. Where ever he goes to speak about global warming, it is either cold or snowy and sometimes both.
I think the tipping point was at Hoaxahagen….. have to leave before my jet gets snowed in.

Reply to  nicholas william tesdorf
January 5, 2019 1:52 am

I agree with you Nicholas, but we are assuming that people will be a lot smarter than they are today.
Best, Allan 🙂

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/07/17/oddly-quiet-sun-3-weeks-without-sunspots/#comment-2407423
[excerpt]

I predicted that natural global cooling would commence by 2020 to 2030, in an article published 1Sept2002 in the Calgary Herald. I am now leaning closer to 2020 for cooling to start, possibly even earlier. I hope to be wrong. Humanity and the environment suffer during cooling periods.

I suggest that it is long past time for society to prepare for the possibility of moderate global cooling.
This would involve:
1. Strengthening of electrical grid systems, currently destabilized by costly, intermittent green energy schemes;
2. Reduce energy costs by all practical means.
3. Development of contingency plans for food production and storage, should early frosts impact harvests;
4. Develop contingency plans should vital services be disrupted by cold weather events – such as the failure of grid power systems, blocking of transportation corridors, etc.
5. Improve home insulation and home construction standards.

The current mania over (fictitious) catastrophic global warming has actually brewed the “perfect storm” – energy systems have been foolishly compromised and energy costs have been needlessly increased, to fight imaginary warming in a (probably) cooling world.

I suggest this is the prudent path for Western societies to follow. It has no downside, even if global cooling does not occur, and considerable upside if moderate cooling does commence.

Best, Allan

George Daddis
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 5, 2019 9:35 am

I am a lot more pessimistic than most of those commenting.
We seem to be hanging our hat on the precept that in X years time what we are pointing out will be proven correct by observation and the public will “wakeup”.

However, the evidence is already here (Christie, Pielke Jr et al); the West Side Hwy is NOT underwater, the Arctic has NOT melted and children in the UK still experience snow.

The Progressives’ ability to change language , to focus most of the public on the “History of Now” and on emotion over logic has been successful in obfuscating real observation.

History is not on our side. In both the US and UK those on the Left sold promises of bright new worlds with no downside. In the States, starting with Woodrow Wilson and continuing with FDR they pushed “progressive” programs (progressive income tax, social security, Medicaid etc) that they claimed would only benefit the country.

There were folks, treated as reactionaries opposed to progress, who pointed out that the impact of those programs were hardly innocuous and would significantly impact the direction of the respective countries in a negative way (taxes would not stay at just a few percent, SS would not be just a few pennies and be held in a ” lockbox”, Medicaid would cost many times more than promised; and that the net result would be the development of a dependent “welfare” class).

Had the public of that time realized that those reactionaries were correct, they would never have gone along with those pie in the sky promises. What the Progressives count on is that over time the “public” will become accustomed to the negatives as the “new normal” and forget they were sold a bill of goods. Imagine the outcry from the public of today if those programs were pulled back to the size and limits in the initial proposals!

I just cannot envision a time 20 years from now that Al Gore or Michael Mann will be viewed in a negative light (no matter how deserved). I offer Paul Ehrlich as proof #1.

James Clarke
Reply to  George Daddis
January 5, 2019 12:25 pm

I am with you on this, George! History is not on our side. I also believe the die was cast with Woodrow Wilson and FDR…just like you said.

We keep on thinking that something will happen that will make socialists wake up and see how unworkable their systems are; how much damage those systems do to a healthy economy and ultimately how much misery and suffering they do to a population. But their beliefs are not based on evidence, so no amount of evidence to the contrary can alter their beliefs! In this regard, they are similar to radical Muslims on a Jihad…a holy war. Their sense of victimhood for themselves, or vicariously for others, is all the reason they need to do anything they want.

And what they claim to want is socialism. What their actions indicate they want is power. They are talking about doing away with the Electoral College, further opening the borders to future Democratic voters, making Washington D. C. the 51st state to give them 2 more Democratic Senators, and, of course, impeach Trump! None of these actions are for the good of the country. They are clearly and solely for the good of Democrats, and everyone else be damned.

The sea level is not rising very much, but the tide of socialism is becoming more impressive every day. The people of the United States now except levels of socialism that previous generations were willing to die to prevent. Much of our government is engaged in activities that are clearly unconstitutional, and our politicians do not even wait for the echoes of their oath to defend and uphold the Constitution to fade from the walls of congress, before doing everything they can to tear that document to shreds.

The socialists in communists countries declared over 80 years ago that they would defeat the United States of America without ever firing a shot. They even told us how they would do it; through infiltrating our education systems and other institutions with socialist ideals. One of those institutions became the media. The battle has been so subtle, that people in those institutions do not even realize the side they have aligned with.

The socialists haven’t always won the battles, but they are persistent. In war, the only battle you absolutely need to win is the last one, and they are much closer to that final battle now than they have ever been.

Sommer
Reply to  James Clarke
January 5, 2019 1:21 pm

Was Yuri Bezmenov correct?

James Clarke
Reply to  James Clarke
January 5, 2019 5:26 pm

Sommer…thank you for posting this video. I have not seen it before, but I have seen much of what Yuri was saying unfolding before my eyes over the last 35 years. The Soviet Union is long gone, but the seeds they planted are still growing, and the harvest from those seeds is ready for the reaping.

The freshman Senators that have just been sworn in fit Yuri’s description of a ‘demoralized’ person perfectly, and they really are representative of a growing portion of the population. The Soviet plan continues to mature, even without the Soviets. The first and second phases of the plan have come to pass. The 3rd step he spoke of was a ‘crisis’. The stage has been set for an economic crisis unparalleled in the history of humanity. With Trump and the Congress spending more than ever, and the new wave of Democrats promising the moon to our ever-growing, ‘entitled’ population, It is only a matter of time until the monetary system crumbles to dust. China could trigger it any time they wanted to, but it is not in their best interest at this moment.

The fourth step, ‘normalization’, will be implemented by some power-hungry nation or tribe, and we will live to see the worst parts of ‘1984’ become our reality.

It doesn’t have to happen, but can someone tell me what is happening that will prevent it? Anyone?

Cynthia
Reply to  George Daddis
January 5, 2019 3:48 pm

Pessimism here also: Al Gore got his mitts on the educational system since about 2011, and has been educating impressionable minds, and turning them into True Believers.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 5, 2019 9:37 am

Excellent.

I will add that since all-battery electric vehicles (BEVs) see a 20-50% drop in their fully-charged range in cold (0-20 deg-F) environmental conditions, those considering buying a new car with the expectation of keeping it for ten or more years may want to seriously consider an ICE-powered vehicle 😉

Sara
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
January 5, 2019 12:28 pm

Allan, you left out late post-winter cold/thawing resulting in shortened planting and growing seasons. That means shifting the planting schedules for the over-winter grain crops, e.g., hard red winter wheat.

A late start to spring seems to be more and more common, and goes back to the 1990s, before I moved away from Chicago. Last year (2018), when Spring did not arrive until after April 30, tree buds did not break open for another two weeks. It’s creeping into later and later every year. Should be interesting to compare Spring 2019 with prior years.

richard verney
Reply to  nicholas william tesdorf
January 5, 2019 7:20 am

It is rather unlikely that there will be much cooling by 2020, given that it appears that 2019 will be an El Nino year.

Of course, it is too early to predict whether the El Nino will be strong, or weak (presently it appears that it will be weak), but either way, 2019 is likely to be somewhat warmer than 2018 (if one can really measure temperatures to hundredths or even tenths of a degree).

Richard M
Reply to  richard verney
January 5, 2019 8:13 am

It is weak and there are no signs of strengthening. Good chance it may not last long enough to even qualify as an official El Nino. Also, no atmospheric coupling has occurred which will reduce the overall impact.

The big question is will this El Nino be followed by La Nina. We haven’t had a strong La Nina since 2011-12 so we are overdue.

From what I can tell the AMO is a quasi-cyclic phenomena that may need some kind of kick to induce a change in phases. A strong La Nina during an extended solar minimum might just provide that kick. A quick movement into the next -AMO phase will certainly test the AGW conjecture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_multidecadal_oscillation#/media/File:Amo_timeseries_1856-present.svg

McBryde
Reply to  richard verney
January 6, 2019 3:05 am

Martin Armstrong:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/?s=cooling
finds historical correlation between solar cycles and volcanic/quake activity.
There’s a relationship between sunspot activity and magnetism.
Volcanic ash in the atmosphere creates cooling, and leads to famines, etc.

But his impressive AI system (costing him $100M, and with a gigantic data base) predicts (through pi cycles) the likelihood that the CACC scam will carry power into around 2030. So I guess they’ll blame cooling on us too.

McBryde
Reply to  McBryde
January 6, 2019 5:00 am

I should add that the trend recently shows volcanic activity is consistent with the theory, and confirms that the planet is already embarked on a period of cooling, which has a high probability of being severe and rapid.

As I understand it, his recent analysis suggests 3 waves down into 2015 (I thnk). We’re currently in the first wave which has 2 or 3 yrs to bottom. His AI (Socrates) points to 2020 for the first part of world food shortages, caused by disruption of sunliht due probably to volcanic ash in the atmosphere..

Harry Passfield
Reply to  nicholas william tesdorf
January 5, 2019 11:31 am

No! Gore won’t be here. But his descendants will be very rich. (and the poor will be poorer).

Clay Sanborn
January 4, 2019 9:51 pm

Among other things, control of Earth’s climate is in God’s domain. Mankind does not have the capacity to alter it, and if we did, God would not allow it.
Paul of the Bible was not talking about climate change, but I still feel like these verses from Romans 1 are suitable edification for Al Gore; all of us really.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

Richard
Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 4, 2019 11:48 pm

Clay, your theology is a bit shaky. It is not your place to say which of our choices are or are not allowed, but if the intricate weave of uncountable lives, choices, consequences isn’t simultaneously and paradoxically free and also allowed or even directed, then we live in a random pointless delusional chaos of morally neutral insanity, and only sociopaths make logical sense.

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  Richard
January 5, 2019 10:39 am

Richard, just acknowledging I’ve read your comment. Thanks for your input.

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 5, 2019 12:00 am

It’s not apparently what John Houghton seems to believe.
Let’s give him his full blown proud title shall we?

Sir John Theodore Houghton CBE FRS FLSW is a strong believer that man is to blame, and man can do and SHOULD DO something about it.
That is how became a SIR!
He also loves quoting the kind of scripture passages you are doing, maybe even the KJV.

Stick that in your trumpet and blow it!

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  pigs_in_space
January 5, 2019 10:40 am

pigs, just acknowledging I’ve read your comment. And thanks for your input.

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 5, 2019 6:04 am

Non science masquerading as reason.

Christianity is a religion.
Judaism is a religion.
Islamism is a religion.
Buddhism is a religion.
etc. etc. etc. for a very long list of religions based upon deities.

Topping that list is “global warming”, “AGW”, “CO₂ caused warming”, “climate disruption”, “climate change” is a religion.

Adhering to or mixing religion is strictly a personal opinion, not science.

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  ATheoK
January 5, 2019 11:15 am

For me Christianity – belief that by grace through faith in Jesus Christ having died to pay for the innate sins of ALL, we are saved to eternal life – is not religion, it is pure truth and light as not found in this world.
I agree with you that belief in CAGW is religion; it certainly is not science, because there is no science in it. It is a ploy…
To make my position clear, the “global warming”, “AGW”, “CO₂ caused warming”, “climate disruption”, “climate change” alarmism has nothing to do with Climate; it is apparently beguiled social and political posturing to, among other things, redistribute wealth, destroy capitalism, and to socialize the world. While he may not care about what evil politics are hoping to accomplish, Al Gore has made $Millions off it, and he wants more.
When nations (especially the USA) set precedent by giving exclusive sovereignty to the U.N. on Gun Control, “Climate Change” whatever that means, or some other drummed up global crisis, it is a slippery slope to the end of freedom in this world. Then in this new perilous environment, comes the supposed savior of the world – antichrist.
Whether the world caves in to the CAGW scam is the canary in the mine; if the canary dies, the world is screwed. But fear not, there is my first sentence above.

Richard Patton
Reply to  ATheoK
January 5, 2019 12:49 pm

Atheism is also a religion. Religions do have to have a diety as an example see Taoism. *EVERYONE* has a religion, it just may not be deistic. Scientism (which people conflate with science) pre-supposes atheism, that everything can be explained by natural laws, which is provably false.

The Cob
Reply to  Richard Patton
January 5, 2019 2:10 pm

If you think atheism is a religion, i suggest you try to use a bit of common sense in your future attempts at understanding.

Or, you could just google ‘what is religion’.

If this is above your comprehension, I’m not sure what you’re doing commenting on a science website.

Richard Patton
Reply to  The Cob
January 5, 2019 5:29 pm

As I pointed out before, there are deistic and non-deistic religions. Back in the ’60s, the American Atheistic society took the IRS to court because they could not get tax-exempt status as a religious organization. The Supreme Court agreed with them that Atheism is a religion. To say that there is no god is every bit a religious statement as saying there is a god. Neither can be proved, you have to look at the evidence and make your decision on faith. Both are are faith-based worldviews and anyone who claims differently is fooling themselves.

Steven Hill
Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 5, 2019 8:09 am

Amen brother….

Reply to  Clay Sanborn
January 5, 2019 9:45 am

Clay, with regard to quotes from the Bible that are applicable to Al Gore and other CAGW alarmists, I think this passage is perfectly appropriate:
“Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” — Romans 1:22, Bible, King James Version

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
January 5, 2019 11:20 am

Gordon, that’s the focus verse for which I had to give the other verses for some context. Thanks for further emphasizing it.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
January 5, 2019 12:52 pm

That also applies to their stupidity about more than two genders. Their gender bender garbage is the most beautiful example of that verse that I have ever seen.

peterh
January 4, 2019 10:00 pm

America, for that matter much of the western world, is at the cusp of a political tipping point. But the forces I see do not favor ascendance of leftist nonsense. The left has exposed itself, and angered a great many they would feed off of.

Dena
January 4, 2019 10:17 pm

A funny thing happens after the kids graduate; they get their first set of bills, they run up debts and mortgages, and suddenly the importance of economic growth and the cost of expensive electricity and fuel becomes a lot more real to them.

Unfortunately far to many of them move back into their parents basement where they can be warm in the winter, the power bill is paid, possibly free food and free WiFi allowing them to be a social warrior on the net. Last but not least, they vote in the elections.

Richard M
Reply to  Dena
January 5, 2019 8:17 am

Trump is doing all he can to fix this. See the latest jobs report. Plenty of jobs available for those kids at this time.

Brian Johnson
January 4, 2019 10:21 pm

Clay Sanborn =
Sudden prayers make God jump! Religion is a Faith not a Fact.

Ignore scientific facts at your peril…….

Len Jay
Reply to  Brian Johnson
January 4, 2019 10:40 pm

And what might these facts be? I’d really like to know thanks Brian.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Len Jay
January 5, 2019 4:17 am

Len Jay – January 4, 2019 at 10:40 pm

[Brian Johnson] “Ignore scientific facts at your peril…….

And what might these facts be? I’d really like to know thanks Brian.

Len Jay, …… I fear that your life expectancy is now far to short for you to be learning what said “scientific facts” are.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
January 5, 2019 12:54 pm

@Sam Name calling does not clarify your point. I see no point whatsoever.

Samuel C Cogar
Reply to  Richard Patton
January 6, 2019 3:48 am

HA, … so you are telling me that I shouldn’t be calling (addressing) Len Jay by his/her self-stated screen-name of Len Jay.

So, ….. Richard Patton, since you couldn’t see the “point”, then maybe with your scientific expertise you could teach Len Jay ……. a 30-minute “crash course” in the Science of the Natural World.

You could then print a Diploma to prove you edumucated h/her.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Samuel C Cogar
January 6, 2019 12:48 pm

Straw Man, Straw Man, Straw Man. Since you insist in illogic I will place you on my ignore list-bye!

Jim Clarke
Reply to  Brian Johnson
January 4, 2019 11:04 pm

Anthropogenic climate change is nothing more than the latest religion!

Reply to  Brian Johnson
January 5, 2019 12:13 am

Whatever scientific is, it is not a quality that can be ascribed to facts.

Science may be supported or refuted by facts, but science contains no facts whatsoever.

Science is models of facts, all the way down.

Reply to  Leo Smith
January 5, 2019 2:12 am

And here I thought it was turtles, all the way down…

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/24/warming-warning-over-turtle-feminization/#comment-2566561

More on planet Earth resting on “Turtles, all the way down…”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/24/warming-warning-over-turtle-feminization/#comment-2566542

There is some merit in this concept, but it is not about Earth or turtles, it’s about global warming alarmism and fears of wilder weather, aka “warmist hysteria”.

Warmist hysteria started long ago with one nonsense paper, which stated that climate sensitivity to increasing atmospheric CO2 was about 5-10x higher than reality, probably written by Arhenius circa 1900. Later, political opportunists saw this fiction as a means of obtaining wealth and power, and issued zillions in grants to academics to write papers on every possible subject related to global warming alarmism and the dangers of increased atmospheric CO2. Nonsense piled upon nonsense, until modern academic research was an enormous stack of nonsense papers, piled one upon the other, which now reaches to infinity – and it’s nonsense, all the way down.

McBryde
Reply to  Brian Johnson
January 6, 2019 1:27 am

Why not have science AND faith? Einstein wanted to know the thoughts of God..

In philosophical history, the Modernists came into being as the Enlightenment (objectivity), reacting against the Renaissance etc (faith in God).
The Post Modernists (1950’s) rejected both as meaningless, and celebrate subjectivity and political change through Marxism.

What they don’t realise is that they are subscribing to pre-Modernism by acting on faith – with their Marxist experiment.

The folly of these thinkers is, I believe, that they are exclusive, rather than inclusive.
Perhaps one day we will see the god within humankind – the Self, if you like, as told by the likes of Carl Jung.

In a godless society we risk giving our power to fallible human minds which believe we are superior to everything in this world.

Frederick Michael
January 4, 2019 11:34 pm

It’s gonna tip all right, just not the way Gore thinks. Gore likes to talk about “extreme-weather events” as if they will convince people he’s right. The exact opposite is more like it.

The downward trend in tornadoes cannot be ignored. Not only was 2018 the first year without an EF 4 or 5 (AKA “violent”) tornado since records began (in 1950) but 2015, 2016 & 2017 had 3, 2 & 2 respectively. The long term average for 1950-2018 is more than 8 per year. The current 4 year “tornado drought” cannot be explained as just random variation since 7 violent tornadoes over a 4 year period would be more than 4 standard deviations below the mean (probability about 1 in 10 million).

If we get no hurricanes making landfall in 2019 (around a 30% chance), this decade will tie NOAA’s record for the fewest landfalling hurricanes in a decade since records began (in 1851).

The extreme-weather meme is destined to backfire on its proponents. The truth will out.

Graemethecat
Reply to  Frederick Michael
January 5, 2019 3:45 am

The Alarmists will simply claim the absence of extreme weather is A Bad Thing.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 5, 2019 8:29 am

Precisely. The CAGW/CC hypothesis is inherently non-falsifiable.

R2Dtoo
Reply to  Graemethecat
January 5, 2019 9:19 am

Alarmism can live long as “the calm before the storm” if things quiet down weatherwise.

George Daddis
Reply to  Frederick Michael
January 5, 2019 9:53 am

The downward trend in tornadoes cannot be ignored.

Of course it can! Just like the absence of major hurricanes for 12 years, until one finally hits and then it “proves” their alarmism.

Has the DDT scare backfired on them (as it rightly should have)?
Was Paul Ehrlich finally scorned by the Royal Society for decades of failed predictions?
Does Mann ’98 still get cited in papers today?

Where the general public is concerned, the power of truth can be overstated.

Earthling2
January 5, 2019 12:07 am

Is it Ground Hogs Day all over again? What is it with Al Gore and predictions? Perhaps he is half right about a political tipping point in 2020, especially about climate change being caused by GHG’s, because nearly everyone I know doesn’t believe this crap and people are beginning to speak out everywhere against this misinformation and hyperbolic alarmism.

Algorithm should have been an astrologer. To think this idiot was nearly a heart beat away from being the President of the USA. He will go down in history as the Idiot President of the CAGW cult. At least he is President of something. He has absolutely no shame, just like the rest of his devotees such as Michael Mann and the newest brat on the block, Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. But she does know how to dance, so she can always get a job somewhere. They are going to screw this and other files up like the border illegal migration so bad, it is practically a foregone conclusion that President Trump will be re-elected. Which is fine with me, because I now see Democrats as a threat to National Security. Especially the Socialist Marxists like Bernie Sanders and the above mentioned rookie Ocasio-Cortez. We clearly see now the dangerous calamity that Obama left us with the Middle East and the South China Sea as just a few examples. And he was a closet Marxist with a silver tongue. Better the devil we know, than the demons that possess the Democratic Party.

Reply to  Earthling2
January 5, 2019 12:21 am

Dont for one moment, not one femtosecond, believe that Al Gore believes this …..stuff.

I cannot understand why, after so many years, so many people in here persist in their belief that the architects and protagonists of ‘global warming’ actually believe in it. The useful idiots at the lower levels may do, but the architects like Mann and Gore and the political Left who espouse it, see it simply as a vehicle to achieve certain personal, commercial and political ends. They couldn’t care less if its true or not. They only metric that concerns them is whether other people believe in it.

That why they oppose nuclear power, live on beach fronts and take private jets to climate conferences.

That is why they are concerned with opinion polls and consensus, write polemic, and are utterly bored by real science.

Reply to  Leo Smith
January 5, 2019 2:04 am

All true Leo – well said.
Best, Allan

Read these extreme-left screeds and many more, at:
http://www.green-agenda.com/

It is truly amazing that these people actually believe they are ethical, and of above-average intelligence.

Regards, Allan
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industrialized civilizations collapse?
Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
– Maurice Strong,
founder of the UN Environment Programme
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“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the
United States. De-development means bringing our
economic system into line with the realities of
ecology and the world resource situation.”
– Paul Ehrlich,
Professor of Population Studies
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twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say.
In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate
350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say,
but it’s just as bad not to say it.”
– Jacques Cousteau,
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as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
– Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh,
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It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
– John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
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“The extinction of the human species may not
only be inevitable but a good thing.”
– Christopher Manes, Earth First!
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“The extinction of Homo Sapiens would mean survival
for millions, if not billions, of Earth-dwelling species.
Phasing out the human race will solve every
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January 5, 2019 12:21 am

GORE:-
“Mid course correction manoeuvre”
“YOU PUSHED THE WRONG BUTTON!”

RicDre
Reply to  pigs_in_space
January 5, 2019 10:17 am

pigs_in_space:

I was hoping you would post a clip from your namesake show.
I loved the Muppet show (at least until Disney got a hold of it and tried to destroy it).

January 5, 2019 12:33 am

“… messages from Mother Nature …” as told to The Goracle seem somewhat garbled to me. Plus he really needs to evolve out of such blatant cis-gender labeling. Now, if big Al were to start reading entrails ze could get me interested again./

Steve Borodin
January 5, 2019 1:41 am

Living in the UK, I recall a decade or so ago some junk political propagandist called Gore. Is this guy related?

Reply to  Steve Borodin
January 5, 2019 10:05 am

Well, the old Al Gore was a co-awardee of the Noble Peach Prize in 2007, based largely on his dire predictions of impending climate catastrophes. I wonder if the Nobel prize selection committee today feels proud that they made that award.

Maybe the newer “(Political) Sky is Falling!” Al Gore wants a shot at another Peace Prize?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Steve Borodin
January 5, 2019 3:06 pm

“Living in the UK, I recall a decade or so ago some junk political propagandist called Gore. Is this guy related?”

Yes, that’s the same guy. You might recall he ran afoul of a UK judge over his “An Inconvenient Truth” movie. The judge did not think it fit for British School Children to see because it was distorting the truth. Rather inconvenient for Al.

Admad
January 5, 2019 1:58 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFcTVXtiB8M

None of his Al Gore-ithms seem to work….

Julian
January 5, 2019 2:03 am

Have you not got enough money out of this already Al?

E J Zuiderwijk
January 5, 2019 2:16 am

@ Clay Sanborn.

‘God would not allow it’.

Dangerous that proclamation. One interpretation could be that you know the mind of God. Alternatively, you could be seen to implore God to do something to prevent ‘it’. The Bible has something to say about such statements. It’s a sin called ‘arrogance’.

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  E J Zuiderwijk
January 5, 2019 12:09 pm

E J, Agreed, and I thought that statement would probably require further elucidation, and thus I am probably in some trouble, for as you said it would require knowing the mind of God of the Bible. A good prayer life, regularly reading the Bible, and keeping focus on God are several of the known ways to move in the right direction to knowing the mind of God; in this world, no one will ever fully know the mind of God.
In reply to your comment, as I understand God’s word, God has a purpose and a plan, and nothing can stop His plan.

Wiliam Haas
January 5, 2019 2:44 am

Actually it is because of science that we should all be rejecting the AGW conjecture.

Jarryd Beck
January 5, 2019 2:45 am

There will be a tipping point, but it will be in the exact opposite direction to what he thinks.

Marilyn Reed
January 5, 2019 3:32 am

Al Gore….once again attempting to make himself relevant.

Russ R.
January 5, 2019 3:36 am

There was a tipping point two years ago. We lived through eight years of propaganda, and subsidies to unreliable systems. We could have had four more years just like that, if we wanted it.
We didn’t want it.
It is a political issue that fires up the bases. And opens up wallets of wealthy donors.
But middle class America, just wants to be able to make ends meet.
And they are not going to vote for something that makes that harder.

Herbert
January 5, 2019 3:39 am

Gore is preaching in the wrong journal, The Atlantic Monthly.
With the US responsible for only some 17% of world emissions, the proper venues are China Daily and the Times of India.
It no longer matters what the USA and the remaining developed countries do when developing countries are responsible for some 60% of greenhouse gas emissions.
His harangues would be respectfully received but largely ignored by the populace who have real world problems to address daily.

Global Cooling
Reply to  Herbert
January 5, 2019 4:02 am

Indeed. Instead of Carbon Tax and Carbon trade we could have Carbon Tariffs for imports from China and others. That would include metals like steel, plastics and products that use them.

January 5, 2019 5:27 am

I hope Gore’s right about a climate change tipping point, except that it will be tipping towards the scientific truth, rather than towards the bombastic rhetoric from scientifically ignorant politicians like him.

Toto
January 5, 2019 5:32 am

Gore is obsessed with tipping points. Still. Does it have something to do with Tipper?

Craig
January 5, 2019 5:55 am

Well-meaning alarmists and shameless climate charlatans alike will come to the same harsh realization sooner or later, mother nature doesn’t care what they think.

etudiant
January 5, 2019 6:08 am

Gore is an expert politician, so we should take his political prognostications more seriously than his ‘science’.
Looking at the education trends and the 2018 electoral results, his 2020 forecast seems quite plausible.

January 5, 2019 6:24 am

A) Most American politicians who campaigned on climate alarmism lost recent elections.

Senior politicians on all sides of the political aisle have stated that campaigning on “climate change” was a career killer.

Current democrat actions in the House of Representatives may cater to activists and alarmists, but the political intention is obstructing the President, not climate, law or regulatory action.

B) Canada’s provinces are refusing Trudeau’s catering to activists and CO₂ alamism.

C) Poland has taken definitive action against climate alarmism.

D) France is experiencing convulsions as the citizen population is making their feelings known and that is contrary to climate alarmism.

E) Brazil, Australia and quite a few other countries are skidding to a climate alarmism stop.

F) Recent attempts to con countries to sign an agreement relinquishing control to an undefined international body have highlighted climate alarmism is a front for a world socialist takeover with power concentrated in unelected bureaucrats.

Making Gore’s latest prediction pure ego and delusion.

William Astley
Reply to  ATheoK
January 5, 2019 7:27 am

You are assuming logic and reason will prevail.

The news is fake and void of an serious analysis, facts, constraints, and so on.

CNN, Yahoo, Google, and Friends and the Democrat/Liberal Parties have created the Green/Climate Change Care Bear bubble world with a complex set of politically correct rules.

In their Care Bear bubble world, spending trillions of dollars which we do not have on things that don’t work will create millions of jobs and magically change the climate.

“to meet 100 percent of power demand through renewable sources.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-floats-70-percent-tax-on-top-earners-to-fund-green-new-deal

“Rising Democratic star Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said in a new interview that she could fund her proposed “Green New Deal” in part by slapping a tax as high as 70 percent on top earners.

Ocasio-Cortez, sworn in as Congress’ youngest member on Thursday, is one of a number of Democrats who backs the Green New Deal — which aims to combat both climate change and income inequality with a massive and costly economic overhaul. Ocasio-Cortez has called it “a wartime-level, just economic mobilization plan to get to 100% renewable energy.”

In an interview with Anderson Cooper to air Sunday on CBS’s “60 Minutes,” Ocasio-Cortez said the huge government expansion could be paid for in part by taxpayers contributing “their fair share.” She said that, like in the 1960s, tax rates for those with incomes up to $75,000 could be as low as 10 or 15 percent, but much higher for those earning millions.

A draft text circulated around Congress lays out a framework that includes eliminating greenhouse gas emissions from manufacturing and agriculture and “dramatically” expanding energy sources to meet 100 percent of power demand through renewable sources.”

Tom Abbott
Reply to  William Astley
January 5, 2019 8:49 am

“Rising Democratic star Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez”

The Gift that keeps on giving! Her delusional, very public thinking will serve the conservative cause very well.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ATheoK
January 5, 2019 8:45 am

“Senior politicians on all sides of the political aisle have stated that campaigning on “climate change” was a career killer.”

Leftwing media outlet MSNBC says they don’t hold programs dedicated to discussing “Climate Change” because when they did in the past their ratings plummeted. 🙂

Bob Weber
January 5, 2019 6:27 am

Just know what he’s really doing.

He’s continually providing grist for the mill so all the faithful will stay on board ever motivated to enter nirvana where they are conquerors who will of course manage the spoils of this war. He is their general, fighting the only war he’s had any real influence over. As an aside, what is the first rule of war? Deception. Is Al Gore a deceiver? and doesn’t he have conflicts of interest?

The climate faithful must not be allowed to have doubts that might lead to Democratic policies being rejected, so the Democrats abuse everyone over climate change, with AL being the chief abuser, followed closely by the media, and then THE SCIENCES, who seemingly have no shame in being used for Al’s political program.

As far as I am concerned all those people are engaged in a conspiracy to incite violence among Americans.

JMichna
January 5, 2019 6:48 am

Re “…A funny thing happens after the kids graduate; they get their first set of bills, they run up debts and mortgages, and suddenly the importance of economic growth and the cost of expensive electricity and fuel becomes a lot more real to them….”

This only pertains to the kids that actually grow up, move on AND move out on their own, and NOT the “boomerang kids” who come back home to live in Mom & Pop’s basement. As a certified OF (Old Fart), I see a lot more boomerangs in the neighborhood.

GREG in Houston
January 5, 2019 7:12 am

Gore unfortunately could be correct, if 2020 brings in a democrat administration with a large win, a majority in the house and supermajority in the senate, ala Obama in 2008. While I like most of Trump’s policies, the country may just be tired of cringing by Nov. of 2020.

Meh
January 5, 2019 7:22 am

He might be right. The weather events are quite regular, but the way they are being touted as the most extremists of extreme by a lot of the media, it does get to a lot of people. The moving / multiple goalposts of “climate change” have been politically quite successful so far, as without them the global warming movement would likely have died ten years ago.

This should be a call to action for people to point out the fallacies spouted by mainly climate change advocates, but also regular people now (and the fallacious statements by “deniers” as well).

“No, there aren’t more extreme winds, droughts or rain”,
“No, the Golf stream is not slowing down, especially not due to smelt ice, otherwise it would do that every summer (and this slowdown would actually lessen if there was less ice in the future)”,
“No, we aren’t experiencing extreme temperatures, we just have a short history of temperature measurements”,
“No, the models have still not predicted climate, not once”.

January 5, 2019 7:27 am

Gore is probably right about about being close to a political tipping point.

Look at the recent polling showing the changing views of the public.

https://morningconsult.com/2018/12/06/more-voters-linking-human-activity-to-climate-change/
Most voters (58%) now say climate change is caused by human activity. Only 30% say it is a natural phenomenon.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_US_112918/
A majority of Americans (54%) currently say that climate change is a very serious problem, which is up significantly from 41% in Monmouth’s 2015 poll.

Kevin kilty
January 5, 2019 8:03 am

Forty years ago was 1978. Al Gore was not talking about global warming or climate change forty years ago. Forty years ago he and his family were busy cashing tobacco support cheques and leasing ground for lead/zinc mining.

Al Gore and truth are complete strangers.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Kevin kilty
January 5, 2019 7:08 pm

Not only tobacco, oil, gas and coal too, it’s the source of his family wealth. However, for one to encounter a stranger, one has to encounter a…stranger. Al Gore has never met truth and there is nothing strange about that IMO.

dave
January 5, 2019 8:06 am

Since there will be no environmental tipping point, Gore might as well look for a political one.

Olavi Vulkko
January 5, 2019 8:17 am

2020 earth is cooler than any year of past two decades. Then those alarmists and fearmongers start to say that CO2 is cooling this planet. 😀

John Robertson
January 5, 2019 8:28 am

So is Al saying we have to wait till 2020 before tar and feathering charlatans like him?
I take comfort in Al’s record for truth and accuracy and his ability to correctly predict the American Voter.
Given the past cycles of mass hysteria and popular fads, Man Controls Climate to Catastrophe ,Meme is in it’s dying days.
This scare will live in history.
The end of the first age of Industrial Enlightenment?

Most of our institutions are tottering as we have left them to the care of fools and bandits.
Renovation is expensive painful work even when the structure is sound.
Building anew is usually more cost effective.
Will brick and mortar universities survive?

January 5, 2019 8:39 am

It is inexcusable for parents to frighten their children with climate change cataclysm. It is even worse when they use their kids as props and propaganda.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Stephen Heins
January 5, 2019 12:27 pm

It’s even worse when their primary school teachers do it, then send the children home to guilt their parents.

Tom Abbott
January 5, 2019 8:58 am

I’m looking forward to this public fight over CAGW.

The Democrats are going to have to provide some evidence that CAGW is real before we go spending tax money on fixing things.

The problem for the Democrats is they have no evidence. I welcome the opportunity to have this pointed out in public. Let’s have this argument. It’s been a one-sided argument in public so far. With this new push by the Democrats, that will change.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Tom Abbott
January 5, 2019 9:14 am

The problem is, they won’t. All they will do, just as always, will be to use Appeals to Authority (the ipcc, etc.), Ad Hominems (“deniers”, etc.), and repeat, ad nauseum the “weather is worse now” lie and all of its variations. As far as they’re concerned, “the debate is over”, and has been for years, even decades.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
January 5, 2019 3:22 pm

“The problem is, they won’t. All they will do, just as always, will be to use Appeals to Authority”

That’s exactly right. What we have to do is insist that we hear from the authorities they cite. We want Congress to hear it right from the horse’s mouth, not secondhand from some clueless politician who is just parroting the so-called experts. We want the experts to provide the evidence that tells us CAGW is real. Second-hand heresay science from clueless people is not sufficient. Invoking “consensus” is not acceptable.

The Alarmists have to make their case. Claiming they have already made it is not good enough because it is not true, and the taxpayers shouldn’t be spending trillions of dollars for something that may not exist. Prove CAGW exists, or give it up..

Eben
January 5, 2019 9:09 am

I want to see the day Al Gore gets tarred and feathered

Tom
January 5, 2019 9:24 am

In spite of the fact that the establishment view on global warming/climate change has become thoroughly entrenched everywhere you look (97% of scientists, the media, government, blah, blah), the implementation of their grand plan still requires a political tipping point. What never occurs, except occasionally, is the acknowledgement that we do not have the technology or the economic wherewithal to accomplish what they want. Of course, what they want more than anything is the “political tipping point”, and were they able to achieve that, we would soon find out they can’t do any of the things they claim are being blocked by this rag tag band of deniers, so they would just continue to exaggerate and blame the this rag tag band of deniers. It’s what they do.

January 5, 2019 10:44 am

I believe that all people that consider true science to be a noble endeavor of humanity need to be very worried about this impending “tipping point”: if within the next 2-5 years Earth indeed starts a somewhat long (say greater than 10 year-duration) decline in average global temperature—whatever that means as long as it is calculated consistently— then global humanity will simply lose faith in, and respect for, the scientific method. Populations around the globe have been assured for decades that “the science is settled” and that as much of “97% of all scientists agree” that climate change since 1850 is due predominately to mankind’s emissions of greenhouse gases, specifically CO2.

How do you imagine the average person will react when they realize that “science” has basically lied to them? I predict that the reputation of science will not be recovered for more than two generations (i.e., about 50 years).

It is despicable that AGW alarmist “scientists” have willing put the scientific method in such danger with their hidden agendas.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Gordon Dressler
January 6, 2019 8:32 pm

“How do you imagine the average person will react when they realize that “science” has basically lied to them? I predict that the reputation of science will not be recovered for more than two generations (i.e., about 50 years).”

It was said back in 1950 (in the title of a book) that “Science Is a Sacred Cow.” Maybe the Pranksters on Olympus have engineered AGW alarmism in order to take science and its “groupies” (epitomized by the various Skeptical organizations worldwide that have bought into the alarm), down a peg or three.

Davis
January 5, 2019 11:02 am

The true political tipping point will be when it starts to affect the general public hard in the wallet. Then the whole ponzi scheme of supposed manmade global warming will be thrown into the dustbin of history along with the ones espousing this wealth distribution scheme. Canadians say they want action on global warming as long as it costs them $00.00 personally.

Harry Passfield
January 5, 2019 11:18 am

Gore knows that the future is the past defined by those who control the present. But he won’t live long enough to see it (like me and many of his age, I should say). Can I say that I hate the man? (IMO)

January 5, 2019 11:26 am

Which tip are we gonna dump Gore on?

Davis
January 5, 2019 11:34 am

France had a yellow vested political tipping point on global warming via the carbon tax on fuels a couple of weeks ago.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Davis
January 5, 2019 3:26 pm

The Yellow Vests are out in the street again today. Macron seems to have awakened a sleeping giant.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Davis
January 6, 2019 8:34 pm

Brazil had a tipping point last year—in the skeptical direction.

January 5, 2019 11:57 am

I find myself wishing that there was something like lightning, but cold, that instantly froze a very unlucky person to death if it struck them.
Guess who is the only person I would like to see flash frozen?

Earthling2
Reply to  Menicholas
January 5, 2019 7:27 pm

Michael Mann?

January 5, 2019 12:15 pm

“France had a yellow vested political tipping point”

DAVIS:-

Well not really.
If you actually listened to what they say, and the whole debate in France, (in FRENCH, like today on BFM) one thing which is notably ABSENT, is any kind of debate on the global warming orthodoxy.

Instead you have a 2 cycles of violence, one absolutely certainly on the part of the government with the CRS deployed en masse, gassing innocent people with tear gas for the slightest move, and on the other side, the more and more extreme positions which victims of such behaviour provokes.

THERE IS NO DEBATE on Macron’s primary lies, which involve ratcheting up pressure on the middle/working class to pay for “energy transition”, supported by 2 total Cretins- Nicolas Hulot (who has now left the government just in time) and Segolene Royal, this failed nutcase who with her cronies, brought in some of the most stupid ideas of all time (eg. closing the voie express sur berges!!!)

I keep trying to inform people they FIRST have to see through the primary smokescreen of lies from the current government, see for themselves it’s a gigantic scam, and then take action.

The current French government is no different from its predecessors,- champagne corrupted nepotistic socialism, which started under Mitterand, and led to the current EU non elected elite.

All that has changed is the faces and the methods.
The French have to GET IT.
Macron and his “climate change cronies” are just a paradigm of the control of the people through a variety of brutal methods, – finance, bankers, and some of the highest taxes in the world.

When the people revolt you have to give them sound argument.
The only sound argument to bring in alternance is to realise the enormity of the giant sham democracy and enormous scam.

McBryde
Reply to  pigs_in_space
January 5, 2019 4:39 pm

This whole attitude was fomented by French intellectuals in the 1950’s as post modernism.
Against the rules of the post modernist philosophy, because these intellectuals happened to be marxists, they slipped marxism in as well.

As Marxism has been proved to be a failure, we now have post modernist neo marxism, which really all boils down to a whole lot of hypocritical wind where all they really want is power (Stephen Hicks explains it on you tube, as well as Jordan Peterson.)

January 5, 2019 12:26 pm

Thanks for the look under the hood of France.

Critical Mass
January 5, 2019 12:42 pm

Perhaps Algorithm really meant to say “political tipper point” after the ex-missus.

And by the way, what is the time span for a “looming crisis”, as in “Forty years ago, it was not easy to get people’s sustained attention for this looming crisis.”?

An event that may happen in 40 years is hardly “looming”. Unless he meant “blooming”.

Reply to  Critical Mass
January 5, 2019 4:54 pm

40 year ago we only had a few years to take immediate action.

Kathleen Cranage
January 5, 2019 12:42 pm

Perhaps Algorithm really meant to say “political tipper point” after the ex-missus.

And by the way, what is the time span for a “looming crisis”, as in “Forty years ago, it was not easy to get people’s sustained attention for this looming crisis.”?

An event that may happen in 40 years is hardly “looming”. Unless he meant “blooming”.

Reply to  Kathleen Cranage
January 5, 2019 1:31 pm

Funny, Kathleen!

January 5, 2019 12:50 pm

Seems to me that it’s now unquestionable what the whole climate change issue has really been about all along – political power and ideological supremacy… never actually about doing something good for the environment.

Al miller
January 5, 2019 1:04 pm

The Goracle and Arnold are the most awesome spokes hypocrites for the religion. I love when they make predictions or sanctimonious statements. They just throw fuel on their own symbolic burning at the stake of public ridicule and hypocrisy. I can only hope there is a real reckoning some day- the second coming of common sense and reason?

January 5, 2019 1:19 pm

If you speak French, take a listen to this old guy.
A potted history of French barricades and insurrections.
It’s not pure romantic BS, some of the French ideas are neccessary to get fight back against plain abuse…. same fight, modernising health and safety that was a century behind:-

The Asbestos industry that murdered a generation of people and still dying…(a friend’s daughter just died of it at 30 thanks to being exposed to it in a school as a child…..
The Uranium mining industry that dumped their tailings any old where polluting the ground water or building roads with it (!)
Impact of gold mining on mercury contamination and soil degradation … French Guiana…

WTF… what sort of world is this?

When the fridge is empty on the 20th day of the month or you have to eat dog biscuits somehow to get by….
Fascinating.

Johann Wundersamer
January 5, 2019 4:54 pm

That laughable Gore

“Gore: Forty years ago, it was not easy to get people’s sustained attention for this looming crisis. It’s much easier now.

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himself

confesses to lying since “Forty years ago,”
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These habitual petty criminal liars and cheaters Al Gore vice whatever.

Lying since “Forty years ago”. Fasten seat belts heading to | light / lied | speed.

January 5, 2019 4:56 pm

The tipping point is that the observing public no longer finds AL Gore’ s story that humans are heating up the Earth to be believable. Instead, serious signs of a cooling trend are becoming obvious. Look out your window! See Paullitely.com for the full story…

January 5, 2019 8:11 pm

It was only when I reached :

“Forty years ago, it was not easy to get people’s sustained attention for this looming crisis. ”

that I broke out laughing .

observa
January 5, 2019 10:38 pm

So it’s a political tipping point now is it? Well at least they’re starting to tell it like it is rather than the same old hackneyed line masquerading as science-
https://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/25-years-of-predicting-the-global-warming-tipping-point/

getitright
January 7, 2019 10:53 am

a number of candidates will be placing climate at or near the top of their agenda.

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Could be true. The important thing is, where are the voters placing climate change on their agenda?