LORENZO ARVANITIS & SERENA CHO 7:55 PM, DEC 08, 2018
STAFF REPORTERS
The Yale Police Department arrested 48 people — the vast majority of whom were Yale undergraduates — on Friday, ending a five-hour sit-in at the lobby of the Yale Investments Office. A coalition of student groups, including Fossil Free Yale and Despierta Boricua, organized the event to protest Yale’s holdings in the fossil fuel industry and Puerto Rican debt.
Forty-three students, two graduate students, two New Haven residents and one faculty member — history professor Jennifer Klein — were cited for trespassing after refusing to leave the lobby of the Yale Investments Office after 5 p.m. — the time the Investments Office closes. In an interview with the News, University spokesperson Tom Conroy said police officers informed the students that the building was closing at 5 p.m., and that they would be given a ticket if they chose to remain in the lobby.
Is it a grammar thing? Or is it a laziness thing? Or is it just plain stupidity?
Climate change or climate science “denier” gets shortened to climate denier.
Fossil fuel “free” gets shortened to fossil free.
In both cases, the shortened phrase makes the person uttering it look like a total moron.
Of course, anyone who thinks that student protests are going to have any effect on this…
Source: BP 2018 Statistical Review of World Energy
Is dumb enough to think that government bureaucrats can amend the laws of physics.
For that matter… Do any of these Yalie geniuses have the slightest clue as to where their heating, cooling, hot water and electricity come from?
Energy Management at Yale University
Thermal energy for most buildings in the Central and Science areas of the Yale campus is produced in the Central Power Plant. The Sterling Power Plant serves the Medical School Area and Yale New Haven Hospital. Steam and chilled water produced in the plants are distributed to the buildings in underground tunnels or in direct buried pipes. Electricity is either purchased from the utility company or generated in the Central co-generation plant and distributed for the central and science areas of the campus.
[…]
Production & Distribution of Energy
Steam is produced in the power plant burning either natural gas or oil with maximum efficiency and minimum pollution. It is distributed underground to the buildings where it is used for either direct heating, for re-heating of hot water for heating, and use in the showers, bathrooms, etc., or as process steam used in the kitchen, laboratories, etc. Steam releases its energy (in radiators, heat exchangers, etc), and is returned to the power plant as the most efficient feed water for the boilers, since it retains its thermal energy (120-180 °F), and is chemically treated.
It doesn’t help that Yale’s management is almost as dumb as the students…
Energy Initiative
Turbines atop Becton Center
The production and use of energy from fossil fuels impacts our climate and community, and has become increasingly expensive as resources become scarcer. As a result of these impacts, in 2005 Yale President, Richard Levin, committed the University to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions 43% below 2005 levels by 2020. Further, the Sustainability Plan 2025 Climate Action Ambition commits Yale to carbon neutrality by 2050. To accomplish this ambitious goal, Yale University has embarked upon an ambitious energy program improving the efficiency of its power plants, updating buildings, utilizing emerging technologies, searching for clean energy alternative sources as part of its energy use portfolio, and investigating the use of carbon offsets. To learn more about how Yale is progressing toward its goal click here.
Equally important, however, are the patterns and habits of energy use by students, faculty, staff and administrators. The example we set, as individuals and as a community, is also important as the rest of the world tackles its own energy challenges.
Further, the Sustainability Plan 2025 Climate Action Ambition commits Yale to carbon neutrality by 2050. To accomplish this ambitious goal, Yale University has embarked upon an ambitious energy program improving the efficiency of its power plants, updating buildings, utilizing emerging technologies, searching for clean energy alternative sources as part of its energy use portfolio, and investigating the use of carbon offsets.
As a higher education institution with a global presence, Yale is committed to sustainability planning and actions that forge new paths. The nine ambitions described in the Yale Sustainability Plan 2025 offer a set of unifying priorities to help foster academic exploration, encourage dialogue that spans academic disciplines, and create new ties between Yale’s operations and its teaching and research mission.
Yale is committed to academic leadership in the sciences, social sciences, arts, and humanities, and to providing a campus learning environment that cultivates innovators, leaders, pioneers, and entrepreneurs in all fields and for all sectors of society. This plan outlines programming and priorities related to academic exploration, diversity, and collaboration—all vital components of the vision for a more unified and interconnected Yale.
In 1716 Yale University moved to New Haven, Connecticut. As we commemorate this tercentennial, it is extraordinary to consider what New Haven and Yale will be like three hundred years from now. This plan—with its nine ambitions and nine-year time frame—is the first step of what we hope will be a remarkable journey.
Peter Salovey, President and Chris Argyris, Professor of Psychology
Maybe my eyes were rolling too much, but was there anything in A New Sustainability Vision related to energy? And WTF would a psychology professor know about energy infrastructure?
So… Yale’s pathway to carbon neutrality is:
Improving the efficiency of its power plants, updating buildings, utilizing emerging technologies, searching for clean energy alternative sources as part of its energy use portfolio, and investigating the use of carbon offsets.
Basically, waiting for Unicorns and paying for other people to decarbonize… Don’t they still teach engineering at Yale?
Apparently they do, or at least did as recently as 2010…
Becton windmills raise quixotic questions
KATIE FALLOON 4:10 AM, APR 06, 2010
Last May, 10 one-kilowatt wind turbines were installed on top of the Becton Engineering and Applied Science Center to remind passing Yalies of the University’s sustainability efforts. But almost a year later, the turbines’ actual economic and energy savings value is still unclear.
While Tom Downing, the Office of Facilities’ senior energy engineer, said the turbines will pay for themselves, not including the cost of installation, in about eight years, two Yale engineering faculty members interviewed said they are skeptical the small turbines can generate enough electricity to be cost-effective.
The turbines — meant to serve as a sign of Yale’s commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 43 percent below 2005 levels by 2020 — were built by the energy firm AeroVironment, Inc., and cost $5,000 each, Downing said. He said the manufacturers estimated the turbines would generate about 26,000 kilowatt hours of electricity annually, which is equal to or about half of 1 percent of the Becton Center’s annual electricity needs and will reduce the University’s carbon dioxide emissions by about 20,000 pounds. (This data is based on the assumption that the turbines will be spinning about 30 percent of the time over a one-year period, Downing said.)
But engineering and applied physics professor Paul Fleury and engineering design advisor and lecturer Glenn Weston-Murphy said they are skeptical about the turbines’ efficiency. To have an energy-saving impact, there would need to be many more small turbines on top of Becton Center, which is not feasible because of limited space and zoning issues, Fleury said.
“I don’t know where the 26 megawatt hours came from, but it is at best very optimistic,” Weston-Murphy said, adding that he did not know whether the turbines would ever pay for themselves completely.
So far there have been no reliable data on the electricity actually generated by the turbines, Downing said.
A Google for the Becton Center wind turbines took me to Yale’s functioning sustainability page… And it’s a HOOT! There’s not a lot of detail on Yale’s energy infrastructure; but there’s enough to determine that Yale is about 97% fossil fueled…
Capacity MW
MWh/yr
Capacity Factor
Central Power Plant
38.60
Gas turbines (3)
18.30
Diesel generators (3)
4.50
Combustion turbines (2)
15.80
Sterling Power Plant
15.00
Co-generation
15.00
Fossil Fuel
53.60
Becton Micro Wind Turbines
0.01
25
29%
Fisher Hall
Soalr PV
45
Kroon Hall
Solar array
0.10
West Campus Solar Array
Solar array
1.34
1,600
14%
Renewables
1.45
The much ballyhooed Becton Center wind turbine installation has an installed capacity of 0.01 MW… But it does appear to deliver nearly a 30% capacity factor. From my recollection of my years in New Haven, it was always windy… But not that sunny. The YUGE 1.34 MW West Campus Solar Array rates a 14% capacity factor.
West Campus Solar Array
Location: 750 West Campus Drive, West Haven, CT 06516
Description: A solar array atop the Storage and Receiving Center generating 1/5 of West Campus’s energy demand
Did you know? The Solar Array includes 4,400 panels covering close to 2 acres of roof top
1.34 megawatt solar installation
Generates 1.6 million kilowatt-hours of electricity annually
Offsets the equivalent of more than 16,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the life of the system
Delivered an eight-fold increase in the university’s on-site renewable energy generation
An eight-fold increase over slightly more than zero-point-zero is not exactly something to brag about. The highlight of Yale’s first solar installation, Fisher Hall, was that it delivered “17% of [the single] building’s energy demand.”
“…If these bozos really want a fossil-free Yale, they were protesting in the wrong part of campus.
They need to be protesting where the fossils are….”
Exactly what I keep thinking every time I hear it….I don’t think museums are going to want to give up their fossil collections. We would also need to do a lot of digging to find all the remaining prehistoric fossils in the ground and get rid of them.
If these bozos can’t even get the wording of their rhetoric correct, it is apparent to me that there is a lot of room for improvement in their I.Q. department. True, this may be nitpicking, but it still says something about the intelligence level of a cult that thinks solar and wind are capable of displacing all of the energy we get from fossil fuels.
Pat,
Yes, it would seem that Yale is failing in their responsibility for educating the students about how the world works. I’m reminded of Disney’s First Law: Wish and it will come true.
The small town in central Washington State, Ellensburg, used other people’s money to set up 5 “experimental wind turbines (different styles), got no data, and learned that without more of other people’s money, they would never learn anything else.
One of the five fell over in a normal wind for the area — before any software and connections were available to collect data. Rather than use city collected taxes and fees, the council had all 5 of the things removed. I think the concrete pads are still there, and enclosed by fence. What is there now, is something I should check on.
I have never understood why a small town should be involved in experimental turbine research. I’m neither a city council member nor a “climate scientist” so maybe I’m not supposed to know.
The Yale Whiffenpoof Song. Take note of the final stanzas. The Whiffenpoofs are an a cappella singing group at Yale University. The song is over a century old.
To the tables down at Mory’s,
To the place where Louis dwells,
To the dear old Temple Bar
We love so well,
Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled
With their glasses raised on high,
And the magic of their singing casts its spell.
Yes, the magic of their singing
Of the songs we love so well:
“Shall I Wasting” and “Mavourneen” and the rest.
We will serenade our Louis
While life and voice shall last
Then we’ll pass and be forgotten with the rest.
We are poor little lambs
Who have lost our way.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
We are little black sheep
Who have gone astray.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
Gentlemen songsters off on a spree
Damned from here to eternity
God have mercy on such as we.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
OMG! Did you see it? That one man died of climate change right there on stage! Does anyone have a link to the autopsy video?
Dead Yalie undergrads, that’s what’s going to convince me that climate catastrophe is real. Someday Yalie undergrads won’t know what a snowflake is. But for now, they still do, every time they look in a mirror. 🙂
Thomas Homer
December 12, 2018 12:46 pm
David, you’ve mentioned that you once lived in Connecticut, so you’re likely familiar with how I95 runs right through New Haven (where Yale is located) and is often saddled with traffic issues. It’s 2 lanes in each direction with no possibility of expansion. I see this as a similar issue with the pursuit of wind energy in that you can’t just double capacity due to open land constraints.
Also, Connecticut had several nuke plants for many years. I’m not sure if any are still operating, do you?
There is Millstone, in Waterford. I’m not aware there were ever any more. And Millstone appears to be under financial threat, and may be shut down in the coming years. As usual, politics plays a big part. Nuclear is the “black sheep” of the energy industry, even though it emits zero CO2. The ghosts of TMI, and Chernobyl still haunts it.
Thankfully, I95 thru New Haven and beyond does have an alternate route – the Merritt Parkway, which runs parallel to it, and prohibits trucks. I highly recommend it. Scenic, too, and even takes you thru a tunnel (under West Rock). Not necessarily faster, but gets you off the rat race.
Actually, once you cross the Sikorsky Bridge northbound between the towns of Stratford and Milford, it’s the Wilbur Cross Parkway, not the Merritt Parkway, but it’s all CT Route 15, essentially the same road.
I95 has been significantly improved, you obviously haven’t been through New Haven lately. With the fact that Connecticut has literally been destroyed by the last eight years of a Governor often ranked last in the nation, the highway will probably service the declining population for quite some time.
I was born in Danbury CT, grew up in the small town ot New Fairfield CT and went to college in New Haven CT (1976-1980)… I avoided I-95 like the plague… But my drive from New Fairfield to New Haven was on I-84 and a couple of State routes.
When I was in 6th grade, we took a field trip to the Connecticut Yankee NGS. It was pretty impressive… But I was an impressionable 6th grader at the time. I think Connecticut Yankee has been retired.
But the folks back east have found a way around the open land constraints. Boston U. has signed a purchase agreement for 205,000 MWh of power from a wind park in South Dakota. Look it up. Of course, they won’t actually be using the power they have acquired. They receive “renewable energy certificates” which can then be sold to offset their carbon emissions. And Walmart has also joined the party.
99 year contract? (Thinking about the time it will take a wind farm to generate 205k MWh.) LMAO
John the Econ
December 12, 2018 12:47 pm
Yes, they should divest, and then raise tuition proportionally.
Every winter, the idiot students at our local university stage a climate protest. And then they walk back through the snow to go back to their well lit and heated dorms and classrooms. I’ve long argued that if they really believed any of what they say, they should disconnect the gas lines and power connections to the outside world, and show us all how the carbon free lifestyle should be lived. Never happens.
John Sutherland.
December 12, 2018 1:08 pm
Just disconnect Yale from the grid for a few hours or days. That will solve the problem. The university could solve it by expelling those students. What a message that would send.
“Eliminating fossil fuels from investment portfolios hurts colleges, workers and poor families …”
MichaelS
December 12, 2018 1:14 pm
Like so many other organizations, Yale won’t even come close to meeting their goals and instead will move the goalposts. They are only about half way from their 2005 target of 43% lower CO2 emissions by 2020 with only two years left. And they have already sunk millions into the solar array and the microturbines so who knows if there is any “low hanging fruit” to have a material impact.
But instead they recently changed their target to emission free by 2050. Anyone want to bet how close they get to that one. I suspect that their emissions will start moving higher overall, and at that point they will stop tracking them and hope everyone forgets about these forecasts and goals. . . .
Bruce Cobb
December 12, 2018 1:22 pm
Yale, like its arch-rival, Harvard has indeed gone full-on Stupid. Sad.
Yup. And as a 3x Harvard grad, guess how much they are now getting from this 3x grad. Zero.
And they keep sending folks down to understand why, and those folks keep on not understanding.
So this year, I declined to host her (meaning pay for her lunch/dinner) at a place of my chosing.
Good for you, Rud. Hit ’em where it hurts – in the wallet.
Walter Sobchak
December 12, 2018 1:27 pm
Oh boy! A target rich environment. The students are idiots, but we knew that. If they went to school and studied hard they might be less idiotic, but this group seems to be impervious. They should be expelled for being idiots, at least for the current semester.
They are even more idiotic for failing to understand that the investment management division is far more important that the college is. Yale is a hedge fund that uses a college as a tax shelter. The powers that be will not let some stupid kid mess with that.
The administration is absolutely spineless. They proved that a couple of years ago when the students rioted over Halloween costumes and the administration failed to expel the girl who cussed out her professor on video.
Al Miller
December 12, 2018 1:40 pm
I thought you had to be smart to get into an ivy league school…clearly not!
It was always be smart or come from a rich family. Clearly the former is no longer an option.
Tom Gelsthorpe
December 12, 2018 1:40 pm
If these ingrates insist upon biting the hands that feed, warm and shelter them, perhaps they could ask for a show of hands, “Who really wants to be poor?”
Neither this society nor any other OECD country can realistically consider abolishing fossil fuels without also abolishing detached homes, auto-transportation, cooked food, asphalt shingles, glass, etc. etc. We’ll have to herd the peasants into tenements, forbid them to go anywhere, and put ’em on short rations.
Who wants to sign up for peasant-herding duty? And live like peasants as well? For pay that provides bare survival?
Steve Keohane
December 12, 2018 1:46 pm
It is interesting how the descriptions of benefits mention the weight of CO2 offset over the life of the generating source, but not the CO2 it took to manufacture the turbine or PV panel.
“Offsets the equivalent of more than 16,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the life of the system”
You know it is pure speculation because they only talk of future accomplishments, but nothing so far.
SR
Joz Jonlin
December 12, 2018 1:59 pm
I would be every one of those people drove to the event in a vehicle powered by fossil fuel. I bet they all live in homes at least partially powered by fossil fuel. Their clothes and shoes are made possible due to fossil fuel. Their smartphones and computers are made possible due to fossil fuel. Virtually every aspect of their life is girded with fossil fuel. I’ll take these people seriously when they give up all these things. Let them walk or ride horses everywhere. Let them wear animal skins for clothing, and no more smartphones or computers.
The hay horses eat in New England runs close to $300 a ton, produced by tractors that run on fossil fuel. Not to mention the diesel truck (@$4.00/gal) bringing it to them. Saddles/harness are beef by-products, except the synthetic ones made from, yep, fossil fuel. No avoiding it! Animal skins come from animals, which somebody’s got to grow feed for too. Bettin’ these brats keep the heat on in their dorms . . . when not wearing their $800 Canada Goose jackets! But it’s just all about the virtue-signaling.
This further illustrates the great disconnect between thinking in words and doing in actions.
Much of the word-making in climate alarmism is done by gate keepers who do not have the background, desire, or capacity to check the math, physics, and economics (or even try to understand it basically) that would establish the rational foundation for climate alarmism’s claims.
For example, as I see it, the Fourth National Climate Assassination on reason, is linked into a chain of organization, whose top overseeing agency has a communications person as head, while many of the associated people are in specific specialties that merely parrot the party line on climate alarmism, as it relates to their particular specialty, without bothering to check the logic of the foundational arguments. The actual expertise on climate is linked to the IPCC by people who have authored that organizations reports, and who provide the words for the parrots to spread to the general public. As I said, gatekeeper parrots controlled by IPCC tentacles.
And those tentacles reach into colleges to sting students with the dogma, while administrators, thus, are not only spineless, but they are themselves as clueless as the “stung” students about the underlying realities that are measured and readily available.
Carbon Bigfoot
December 12, 2018 2:03 pm
Brings me back to Central Steam Plants I designed, rehabilitated and constructed back in the day. I remember bidding on modifications to a Hospital Steam Plant run by the Dept. of General Services of Pennsylvania. My employer at the time was a Mechanical Contractor, I was their Chief Estimator and Project Manager of the projects that we were low bidder on.
I recall the bid package, drawings & specifications were developed internally by the Agency and as a result not professional completed. The steam plant was an unmaintained nightmare. The scope included the replacement of a Deaerator –the device that removes O2 and CO2 from boiler feedwater —otherwise the condensate piping will corrode and fail.
In my pre-bid inspection I noticed the premature failure of most on the piping ( bid specifications did not include the replacement ) and so I bid the job at cost—won the bid and all the new piping required were done on T&M ( time & material basis ) equaled the cost of the original bid and a 40% profit margin. Oh the good old days fleecing the State for their incompetence.
Yale students should be aware that the Deaerator in the University’s Power Plant is doing its bit for CO2 removal!!
Carbon Neutrality is Carbon’s pledge to not take sides during the next world war. Like the swiss during WWII. Unfortunately, sharing a border with Oxygen makes it difficult for Carbon to keep that pledge.
The answer still is education, the problem is those institutions you naively thought would supply that education where really only indoctrinating their students with the willful stupidity in the first place.
These are the states that Sigma Xi picks for free subscriptions that try to prevent discrimination for teaching Creationism, Climate denying, and anti-vaccines. Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Indiana, Idaho, Kentucky, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. In Louisiana there was once a bill proposed to ban the teaching of sex, which would have meant cutting out much of biology. Nowadays, guess that is OK.
Picking out certain states looks like political discrimination. I guess Yale doesn’t need a copy as
the last American Scientist had articles knocking hydrocarbons. Used to be a Science Honor Society.
From Sigma Xi Constitution —-
“ No significant part of the activities of the Society shall consist of carrying on propaganda or otherwise attempting to influence legislation. The Society shall not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office.”
MarkW
December 12, 2018 2:24 pm
If they really want a world that is free from fossil fuels, the most efficient way of doing that is by digging them up and burning them.
That’s what I keep saying. We can incinerate them, turning them into an invisible gas that is actually good for plant life. Then, future generations won’t have to worry about keeping them in the ground.
For certain types of evil carbon-based molecules, drilling deep holes in the ground works pretty well too for getting at them so they can be eliminated via oxidation.
Like witches, those evil carbon molecules must be burned for the sake of humanity.
If they really want a world that is free from fossil fuels, the most efficient way of doing that is by digging them up and burning them.
That remind me of an old joke: when discussing his drinking problem the drunk replied “I can’t stand the sight of alcohol. That’s why I drink, to get it out of my sight.”
Bruce Cobb
December 12, 2018 2:46 pm
I am 100% behind freeing the fossil fuels. From the earth. Right on!
Spare a thought that one day in the future some of them will become our leaders. One can only hope that they will grow up.
While a none believer I am fond of the saying from Jesus, “When I was a child I thought as a child, but when I was a adult I thought as a adult”
Unfortunately their parents, teachers, and other adults in their lives have enabled them all their lives to not have to grow up. They’re in for a rude awakening if/when they ever get into a situation that requires them to be grown up.
“And WTF would a psychology professor know about energy infrastructure?”
Well psychology and communications majors are essential to designing and implementing sound Proganda dis-information campaigns.
So that is why you see communications majors, psychology majors, and the humanities discipline-educated fellow travelers dominate the Climate Change political movement.
To a person, you would likely find 100 out of 100 endorsing socialism as the the political answer for the non-problem of climate change. And if force and curtailment of the the Bil of Rights is necessary to achieve that, then in their estimate, “so be it” will be their response.
Taphonomic
December 12, 2018 5:10 pm
Give them the benefit of doubt that they really want a fossil-free Yale. Shut down everything except the solar and wind turbines. That’ll show the rest of the world how sustainable they are.
Marcus
December 12, 2018 5:26 pm
David
“In both cases, the shortened phrase makes to (the?) person uttering it look like a total moron.”
What happened to the rebelliousness of youth? They seem to be in support of the current paradigms, not opposed to them. I find that very strange. One thing is clear though, they are willing to sacrifice their standard of living to their earth rock god… then put on a yellow vest and protest themselves.
If people believe that the burning of fossil fuels is bad then they themselves should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels. After all it is their money that is keeping the fossil fuel companies in business. The building they were in was make by the use of fossil fuels so they should not have been in the building in the first place.
WXcycles
December 13, 2018 3:50 am
“Turbines atop Becton Center”
That’s in the running for the ultimate in virtue signalling.
How shameless.
AGW is not Science
December 13, 2018 12:48 pm
Each of the Eco-Idiots in the “Keep it in the ground,” “Divest,” Climate Action,” etc. ad nauseum camps should have their own personal “Carbon Nazi” that follows them around, preventing them from using, consuming, or enjoying ANYTHING that consists of, is produced or transported through the use of, or exists thanks to, fossil fuels.
First their “Carbon Nazi” can strip them naked (not a fiber of their clothing that isn’t made from, or harvested, manufactured and transported with, the use of fossil fuels!), then snatch away any food they may be trying to eat (no hamburgers, vegetables, or other food raised, grown, slaughtered, packaged, or transported using fossil fuels for you!), then swipe any and all electronic devices (not only the devices themselves are fossil fuel havens, but they use fossil fuel provided electricity as do the millions of cell towers and servers they “connect” with to do anything useful), kill the heat, A/C and lights wherever they go (no energy consuming “spaces” fro you!), toss them out of BUILDINGS while we’re on that subject, and keep it up until they realize that LIFE simply REQUIRES fossil fuels.
Is it a grammar thing? Or is it a laziness thing? Or is it just plain stupidity?
Climate change or climate science “denier” gets shortened to climate denier.
Fossil fuel “free” gets shortened to fossil free.
In both cases, the shortened phrase makes the person uttering it look like a total moron.
Well, when you shorten it to where it no means what the original meant then it’s easier to get the easily agitated to join your “cause”.
They don’t know what you’re really promoting anymore. They can’t even “check it out”.
Prime example: CAGW where the “A” has become Carbon Dioxide which has become CO2 “pollution” which has become “Carbon Pollution” where the carbon-based minions that have joined don’t realize that they are “pollution” they protest.
“We have met the enemy and they are us!”
Gamecock
December 13, 2018 4:29 pm
I bet daddy is going to be happy, spending $50,000 a year to turn their kid into a Cultural Marxist.
Johann Wundersamer
December 25, 2018 9:15 pm
Paleontology
Is it a grammar thing? Or is it a laziness thing? Or is it just plain stupidity?
Climate change or climate science “denier” gets shortened to climate denier.
Fossil fuel “free” gets shortened to fossil free.
In german the terms are Energie Wende,Klimawandel and Verkehrs Wende –>
sounds as
responsible sustainable car drivers should immediately go against the one-way traffic.
Johann Wundersamer
December 25, 2018 9:25 pm
“Further, the Sustainability Plan 2025 Climate Action Ambition commits Yale to carbon neutrality by 2050. To accomplish this ambitious goal, Yale University has embarked upon an ambitious energy program improving the efficiency of its power plants, updating buildings, utilizing emerging technologies, searching for clean energy alternative sources as part of its energy use portfolio, and investigating the use of carbon offsets.”
That’s why Yale stinks from a distance – the toilets are equipped only with water-saving buttons.
Johann Wundersamer
December 25, 2018 9:36 pm
So Yale got to the light fire in the surrounding dark.
“…If these bozos really want a fossil-free Yale, they were protesting in the wrong part of campus.
They need to be protesting where the fossils are….”
Exactly what I keep thinking every time I hear it….I don’t think museums are going to want to give up their fossil collections. We would also need to do a lot of digging to find all the remaining prehistoric fossils in the ground and get rid of them.
If these bozos can’t even get the wording of their rhetoric correct, it is apparent to me that there is a lot of room for improvement in their I.Q. department. True, this may be nitpicking, but it still says something about the intelligence level of a cult that thinks solar and wind are capable of displacing all of the energy we get from fossil fuels.
As a fledgling fossil myself, I’m glad to live far from folks who’d ban my flatulence. 😏🔥
Maybe the students ought to be protesting the waste of tuition money their parents are paying Yale.
The parents should be. But they are not, so they must think this is great.
Pat,
Yes, it would seem that Yale is failing in their responsibility for educating the students about how the world works. I’m reminded of Disney’s First Law: Wish and it will come true.
You have to wish upon a star, Clyde. Like Leonardo Duhcrapio, or Neil CoupDeGras Tyson. 🌟
I wanted to go to Yale. My father in his wisdom sent me instead to Katherine Gibbs.
The good news is that the engineers in training will get actual data.
You can hope, but hope is not a plan.
The small town in central Washington State, Ellensburg, used other people’s money to set up 5 “experimental wind turbines (different styles), got no data, and learned that without more of other people’s money, they would never learn anything else.
One of the five fell over in a normal wind for the area — before any software and connections were available to collect data. Rather than use city collected taxes and fees, the council had all 5 of the things removed. I think the concrete pads are still there, and enclosed by fence. What is there now, is something I should check on.
I have never understood why a small town should be involved in experimental turbine research. I’m neither a city council member nor a “climate scientist” so maybe I’m not supposed to know.
Hi John,
I live in South Australia so I’m pretty well used to BS like this.
Link to the ‘experiment’ you have mentioned:
https://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/city-of-ellensburg-removing-wind-turbines/article_75e8100a-3da1-11e3-95d2-0019bb2963f4.html
Cheers,
Andy
The Yale Whiffenpoof Song. Take note of the final stanzas. The Whiffenpoofs are an a cappella singing group at Yale University. The song is over a century old.
To the tables down at Mory’s,
To the place where Louis dwells,
To the dear old Temple Bar
We love so well,
Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled
With their glasses raised on high,
And the magic of their singing casts its spell.
Yes, the magic of their singing
Of the songs we love so well:
“Shall I Wasting” and “Mavourneen” and the rest.
We will serenade our Louis
While life and voice shall last
Then we’ll pass and be forgotten with the rest.
We are poor little lambs
Who have lost our way.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
We are little black sheep
Who have gone astray.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
Gentlemen songsters off on a spree
Damned from here to eternity
God have mercy on such as we.
Baa! Baa! Baa!
They will get no mercy from God, because they are all Marxist atheists.
And then came WFF ‘N PROOF, but that’s a different story.
Here you go
OMG! Did you see it? That one man died of climate change right there on stage! Does anyone have a link to the autopsy video?
Dead Yalie undergrads, that’s what’s going to convince me that climate catastrophe is real. Someday Yalie undergrads won’t know what a snowflake is. But for now, they still do, every time they look in a mirror. 🙂
David, you’ve mentioned that you once lived in Connecticut, so you’re likely familiar with how I95 runs right through New Haven (where Yale is located) and is often saddled with traffic issues. It’s 2 lanes in each direction with no possibility of expansion. I see this as a similar issue with the pursuit of wind energy in that you can’t just double capacity due to open land constraints.
Also, Connecticut had several nuke plants for many years. I’m not sure if any are still operating, do you?
There is Millstone, in Waterford. I’m not aware there were ever any more. And Millstone appears to be under financial threat, and may be shut down in the coming years. As usual, politics plays a big part. Nuclear is the “black sheep” of the energy industry, even though it emits zero CO2. The ghosts of TMI, and Chernobyl still haunts it.
Thankfully, I95 thru New Haven and beyond does have an alternate route – the Merritt Parkway, which runs parallel to it, and prohibits trucks. I highly recommend it. Scenic, too, and even takes you thru a tunnel (under West Rock). Not necessarily faster, but gets you off the rat race.
The Merrit Parkway was a helluva lot better than I-95 back in the late 70’s and early 80’s.
Today, both are basically parking lots at anything close to rush hour for significant stretches, as is the “Post Road” (US-1) and I-84 further north.
Actually, once you cross the Sikorsky Bridge northbound between the towns of Stratford and Milford, it’s the Wilbur Cross Parkway, not the Merritt Parkway, but it’s all CT Route 15, essentially the same road.
I95 has been significantly improved, you obviously haven’t been through New Haven lately. With the fact that Connecticut has literally been destroyed by the last eight years of a Governor often ranked last in the nation, the highway will probably service the declining population for quite some time.
I was born in Danbury CT, grew up in the small town ot New Fairfield CT and went to college in New Haven CT (1976-1980)… I avoided I-95 like the plague… But my drive from New Fairfield to New Haven was on I-84 and a couple of State routes.
When I was in 6th grade, we took a field trip to the Connecticut Yankee NGS. It was pretty impressive… But I was an impressionable 6th grader at the time. I think Connecticut Yankee has been retired.
But the folks back east have found a way around the open land constraints. Boston U. has signed a purchase agreement for 205,000 MWh of power from a wind park in South Dakota. Look it up. Of course, they won’t actually be using the power they have acquired. They receive “renewable energy certificates” which can then be sold to offset their carbon emissions. And Walmart has also joined the party.
99 year contract? (Thinking about the time it will take a wind farm to generate 205k MWh.) LMAO
Yes, they should divest, and then raise tuition proportionally.
Every winter, the idiot students at our local university stage a climate protest. And then they walk back through the snow to go back to their well lit and heated dorms and classrooms. I’ve long argued that if they really believed any of what they say, they should disconnect the gas lines and power connections to the outside world, and show us all how the carbon free lifestyle should be lived. Never happens.
Just disconnect Yale from the grid for a few hours or days. That will solve the problem. The university could solve it by expelling those students. What a message that would send.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/02/16/divestment-ethics-and-realities/
by Paul Driessen
“Eliminating fossil fuels from investment portfolios hurts colleges, workers and poor families …”
Like so many other organizations, Yale won’t even come close to meeting their goals and instead will move the goalposts. They are only about half way from their 2005 target of 43% lower CO2 emissions by 2020 with only two years left. And they have already sunk millions into the solar array and the microturbines so who knows if there is any “low hanging fruit” to have a material impact.
But instead they recently changed their target to emission free by 2050. Anyone want to bet how close they get to that one. I suspect that their emissions will start moving higher overall, and at that point they will stop tracking them and hope everyone forgets about these forecasts and goals. . . .
Yale, like its arch-rival, Harvard has indeed gone full-on Stupid. Sad.
Yup. And as a 3x Harvard grad, guess how much they are now getting from this 3x grad. Zero.
And they keep sending folks down to understand why, and those folks keep on not understanding.
So this year, I declined to host her (meaning pay for her lunch/dinner) at a place of my chosing.
Good for you, Rud. Hit ’em where it hurts – in the wallet.
Oh boy! A target rich environment. The students are idiots, but we knew that. If they went to school and studied hard they might be less idiotic, but this group seems to be impervious. They should be expelled for being idiots, at least for the current semester.
They are even more idiotic for failing to understand that the investment management division is far more important that the college is. Yale is a hedge fund that uses a college as a tax shelter. The powers that be will not let some stupid kid mess with that.
The administration is absolutely spineless. They proved that a couple of years ago when the students rioted over Halloween costumes and the administration failed to expel the girl who cussed out her professor on video.
I thought you had to be smart to get into an ivy league school…clearly not!
I think the ivy’s become poisoned. By Leftist ideology.
Al Miller
All you need is an arrest for climate activism on your resume (CV) to be recorded, then you can pick what job you want.
If you don’t get the job you want you scream discrimination because you were a student activist acting on behalf of the planet.
It was always be smart or come from a rich family. Clearly the former is no longer an option.
If these ingrates insist upon biting the hands that feed, warm and shelter them, perhaps they could ask for a show of hands, “Who really wants to be poor?”
Neither this society nor any other OECD country can realistically consider abolishing fossil fuels without also abolishing detached homes, auto-transportation, cooked food, asphalt shingles, glass, etc. etc. We’ll have to herd the peasants into tenements, forbid them to go anywhere, and put ’em on short rations.
Who wants to sign up for peasant-herding duty? And live like peasants as well? For pay that provides bare survival?
It is interesting how the descriptions of benefits mention the weight of CO2 offset over the life of the generating source, but not the CO2 it took to manufacture the turbine or PV panel.
“Offsets the equivalent of more than 16,000 metric tons of carbon dioxide over the life of the system”
You know it is pure speculation because they only talk of future accomplishments, but nothing so far.
SR
I would be every one of those people drove to the event in a vehicle powered by fossil fuel. I bet they all live in homes at least partially powered by fossil fuel. Their clothes and shoes are made possible due to fossil fuel. Their smartphones and computers are made possible due to fossil fuel. Virtually every aspect of their life is girded with fossil fuel. I’ll take these people seriously when they give up all these things. Let them walk or ride horses everywhere. Let them wear animal skins for clothing, and no more smartphones or computers.
The hay horses eat in New England runs close to $300 a ton, produced by tractors that run on fossil fuel. Not to mention the diesel truck (@$4.00/gal) bringing it to them. Saddles/harness are beef by-products, except the synthetic ones made from, yep, fossil fuel. No avoiding it! Animal skins come from animals, which somebody’s got to grow feed for too. Bettin’ these brats keep the heat on in their dorms . . . when not wearing their $800 Canada Goose jackets! But it’s just all about the virtue-signaling.
This further illustrates the great disconnect between thinking in words and doing in actions.
Much of the word-making in climate alarmism is done by gate keepers who do not have the background, desire, or capacity to check the math, physics, and economics (or even try to understand it basically) that would establish the rational foundation for climate alarmism’s claims.
For example, as I see it, the Fourth National Climate Assassination on reason, is linked into a chain of organization, whose top overseeing agency has a communications person as head, while many of the associated people are in specific specialties that merely parrot the party line on climate alarmism, as it relates to their particular specialty, without bothering to check the logic of the foundational arguments. The actual expertise on climate is linked to the IPCC by people who have authored that organizations reports, and who provide the words for the parrots to spread to the general public. As I said, gatekeeper parrots controlled by IPCC tentacles.
And those tentacles reach into colleges to sting students with the dogma, while administrators, thus, are not only spineless, but they are themselves as clueless as the “stung” students about the underlying realities that are measured and readily available.
Brings me back to Central Steam Plants I designed, rehabilitated and constructed back in the day. I remember bidding on modifications to a Hospital Steam Plant run by the Dept. of General Services of Pennsylvania. My employer at the time was a Mechanical Contractor, I was their Chief Estimator and Project Manager of the projects that we were low bidder on.
I recall the bid package, drawings & specifications were developed internally by the Agency and as a result not professional completed. The steam plant was an unmaintained nightmare. The scope included the replacement of a Deaerator –the device that removes O2 and CO2 from boiler feedwater —otherwise the condensate piping will corrode and fail.
In my pre-bid inspection I noticed the premature failure of most on the piping ( bid specifications did not include the replacement ) and so I bid the job at cost—won the bid and all the new piping required were done on T&M ( time & material basis ) equaled the cost of the original bid and a 40% profit margin. Oh the good old days fleecing the State for their incompetence.
Yale students should be aware that the Deaerator in the University’s Power Plant is doing its bit for CO2 removal!!
What the hell is ‘Carbon Neutrality? All life is carbon based so is therefore bad?
I believe Carbon Neutrality is a pledge by carbon atoms to support neither Republicans or Democrats.
Carbon Neutrality is Carbon’s pledge to not take sides during the next world war. Like the swiss during WWII. Unfortunately, sharing a border with Oxygen makes it difficult for Carbon to keep that pledge.
“Carbon Neutrality” is a joke.
Even dead things are not “carbon neutral”.
Is this like “gender neutrality” ? Can a carbon atom be “questioning”, like in “gender neutrality”? Can a carbon atom be “cleanliness identifying” ?
As I said, … a joke.
It’s positively Orwellian the nonsense that comes out of ‘Universities’ today.
How do you dis-incentivize willful stupidity? I used to think the answer was education.
Apparently not.
The answer still is education, the problem is those institutions you naively thought would supply that education where really only indoctrinating their students with the willful stupidity in the first place.
Hey no Robert, that’s very -ist of you to make fun of the LGQWERTYCO2 community. 😉
Only share electrons, don’t give or take them.
Carbon would be pretty fracking useless if it was actually neutral.
Where do i sign up for the virtue signaling class?
http://inter.scoutnet.org/semaphore/semaphore.html
Try here.
Right next to the one on basket weaving. You can’r miss it.
the schedule is basket weaving at 1, gender studies at 2, down with the patriarchy at 3 and virtue signaling all day long.
https://www.sigmaxi.org/about/donate/free-american-scientist-subscriptions-for-high-schools
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/a-new-wave-of-bills-takes-aim-at-science-in-the-classroom/
These are the states that Sigma Xi picks for free subscriptions that try to prevent discrimination for teaching Creationism, Climate denying, and anti-vaccines. Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Iowa, Indiana, Idaho, Kentucky, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia. In Louisiana there was once a bill proposed to ban the teaching of sex, which would have meant cutting out much of biology. Nowadays, guess that is OK.
Picking out certain states looks like political discrimination. I guess Yale doesn’t need a copy as
the last American Scientist had articles knocking hydrocarbons. Used to be a Science Honor Society.
From Sigma Xi Constitution —-
“ No significant part of the activities of the Society shall consist of carrying on propaganda or otherwise attempting to influence legislation. The Society shall not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of any candidate for public office.”
If they really want a world that is free from fossil fuels, the most efficient way of doing that is by digging them up and burning them.
That’s what I keep saying. We can incinerate them, turning them into an invisible gas that is actually good for plant life. Then, future generations won’t have to worry about keeping them in the ground.
For certain types of evil carbon-based molecules, drilling deep holes in the ground works pretty well too for getting at them so they can be eliminated via oxidation.
Like witches, those evil carbon molecules must be burned for the sake of humanity.
If they really want a world that is free from fossil fuels, the most efficient way of doing that is by digging them up and burning them.
That remind me of an old joke: when discussing his drinking problem the drunk replied “I can’t stand the sight of alcohol. That’s why I drink, to get it out of my sight.”
I am 100% behind freeing the fossil fuels. From the earth. Right on!
Spare a thought that one day in the future some of them will become our leaders. One can only hope that they will grow up.
While a none believer I am fond of the saying from Jesus, “When I was a child I thought as a child, but when I was a adult I thought as a adult”
We can but hope that they will all Grow Up.
MJE
BTW that was the Apostle Paul who said that.
We can but hope that they will all Grow Up.
Unfortunately their parents, teachers, and other adults in their lives have enabled them all their lives to not have to grow up. They’re in for a rude awakening if/when they ever get into a situation that requires them to be grown up.
“And WTF would a psychology professor know about energy infrastructure?”
Well psychology and communications majors are essential to designing and implementing sound Proganda dis-information campaigns.
So that is why you see communications majors, psychology majors, and the humanities discipline-educated fellow travelers dominate the Climate Change political movement.
To a person, you would likely find 100 out of 100 endorsing socialism as the the political answer for the non-problem of climate change. And if force and curtailment of the the Bil of Rights is necessary to achieve that, then in their estimate, “so be it” will be their response.
Give them the benefit of doubt that they really want a fossil-free Yale. Shut down everything except the solar and wind turbines. That’ll show the rest of the world how sustainable they are.
David
“In both cases, the shortened phrase makes to (the?) person uttering it look like a total moron.”
Thank God for Marcus… I hate typos!
What happened to the rebelliousness of youth? They seem to be in support of the current paradigms, not opposed to them. I find that very strange. One thing is clear though, they are willing to sacrifice their standard of living to their earth rock god… then put on a yellow vest and protest themselves.
Is that feng shui or yin-yang?
hocus-pocus
If people believe that the burning of fossil fuels is bad then they themselves should stop making use of all goods and services that involve the use of fossil fuels. After all it is their money that is keeping the fossil fuel companies in business. The building they were in was make by the use of fossil fuels so they should not have been in the building in the first place.
“Turbines atop Becton Center”
That’s in the running for the ultimate in virtue signalling.
How shameless.
Each of the Eco-Idiots in the “Keep it in the ground,” “Divest,” Climate Action,” etc. ad nauseum camps should have their own personal “Carbon Nazi” that follows them around, preventing them from using, consuming, or enjoying ANYTHING that consists of, is produced or transported through the use of, or exists thanks to, fossil fuels.
First their “Carbon Nazi” can strip them naked (not a fiber of their clothing that isn’t made from, or harvested, manufactured and transported with, the use of fossil fuels!), then snatch away any food they may be trying to eat (no hamburgers, vegetables, or other food raised, grown, slaughtered, packaged, or transported using fossil fuels for you!), then swipe any and all electronic devices (not only the devices themselves are fossil fuel havens, but they use fossil fuel provided electricity as do the millions of cell towers and servers they “connect” with to do anything useful), kill the heat, A/C and lights wherever they go (no energy consuming “spaces” fro you!), toss them out of BUILDINGS while we’re on that subject, and keep it up until they realize that LIFE simply REQUIRES fossil fuels.
Might be one “reality show” I’d actually watch!
Well, when you shorten it to where it no means what the original meant then it’s easier to get the easily agitated to join your “cause”.
They don’t know what you’re really promoting anymore. They can’t even “check it out”.
Prime example: CAGW where the “A” has become Carbon Dioxide which has become CO2 “pollution” which has become “Carbon Pollution” where the carbon-based minions that have joined don’t realize that they are “pollution” they protest.
“We have met the enemy and they are us!”
I bet daddy is going to be happy, spending $50,000 a year to turn their kid into a Cultural Marxist.
Paleontology
Is it a grammar thing? Or is it a laziness thing? Or is it just plain stupidity?
Climate change or climate science “denier” gets shortened to climate denier.
Fossil fuel “free” gets shortened to fossil free.
In german the terms are Energie Wende,Klimawandel and Verkehrs Wende –>
sounds as
responsible sustainable car drivers should immediately go against the one-way traffic.
“Further, the Sustainability Plan 2025 Climate Action Ambition commits Yale to carbon neutrality by 2050. To accomplish this ambitious goal, Yale University has embarked upon an ambitious energy program improving the efficiency of its power plants, updating buildings, utilizing emerging technologies, searching for clean energy alternative sources as part of its energy use portfolio, and investigating the use of carbon offsets.”
That’s why Yale stinks from a distance – the toilets are equipped only with water-saving buttons.
So Yale got to the light fire in the surrounding dark.