‘We Still Don’t Understand the Superstorms of the Anthropocene’… The stupid, it burns

Guest ridiculing by David Middleton

From some SJW rag, via Real Clear Politics…

ANTHROPOCENE

We Still Don’t Understand the
Superstorms of the Anthropocene

By Caroline Haskins
Oct 12 2018

As of this morning, five people have died in as a result of Hurricane Michael—in Virginia. That’s more than 800 miles away from where Hurricane Michael first made landfall in Florida.

[…]

Hurricane Michael is a harsh example of hurricanes of the Anthropocene—a bizarre chapter of earth’s history in which human activity is causing changes to the climate, the likes of which we’ve never seen in the history of our species, and at a speed that’s unprecedented in the history of our planet.

[…]

Motherboard

According to LinkedIn, Ms. Haskins actually has a degree in something that doesn’t exist:

New York University
Individualized Degree, Anthropocene Studies.

A ‘cene’ is an epochal unit of geologic time during the Cenozoic Era. There is no Anthropocene Epoch on the geologic time scale.

Regarding the hurricane-related deaths in Virginia…

RICHMOND, Va. — Officials said Saturday that there are now six confirmed Michael-related fatalities in the Commonwealth after a missing woman’s body was recovered in Charlotte County.

[…]

Allen and her son, 36-year-old Ronnie Allen Jr. were swept away in the flash flood over the bridge.

Neither survived the incident, but deputies were able to rescue Ronnie Allen’s 17-year-old son.

“I want to commend the incredible number of volunteers who came out to assist with the search efforts for Ms. Allen today,” Charlotte County Administrator Dan Witt said. “We are thankful for the hard work and long hours put forth by our volunteer fire and EMS personnel, the Charlotte County Sheriff’s Office, the Virginia State Police and the Virginia Department of Emergency Management. We keep the Allen family in our thoughts and prayers as they seek comfort and peace in the wake of this very tragic situation.”

Additionally,  Hanover firefighter Lt. Brad Clark was killed and three other firefighters injured after their firetruck was rear-ended on I-295 in Hanover County Thursday night.

There was also a confirmed drowning death in Pittsylvania County due to flashing flooding. Forty-five-year-old James E. King Jr., of Dry Fork, Va., was killed when his vehicle got swept away by floodwaters.

The were two more confirmed deaths attributed to the storm in the City of Danville.

[…]

WTVR

So… “Anthropocene” hurricanes cause motor vehicles to rear-end fire trucks?  Because weather-related fatalities far-inland from hurricane landfall isn’t a particularly new phenomenon.

Hurricane Hazel was the deadliest and costliest hurricane of the 1954 Atlantic hurricane season. The storm killed at least 400 people in Haiti before striking the United States near the border between North and South Carolina as a Category 4 hurricane. After causing 95 fatalities in the US, Hazel struck Canada as an extratropical storm, raising the death toll by 81 people, mostly in Toronto. As a result of the high death toll and the damage caused by Hazel, its name was retired from use for North Atlantic hurricanes.

Wikipedia

From the National Weather Service:

Toronto is about 900 miles inland from Hazel’s landfall, which occurred during the mid-20th Century cooling period. Dr. Ryan Maue’s historical hurricane graphs only go back to 1970; but they demonstrate no trend of increasing hurricane frequency or intensity  since the onset of mild global warming after the Pacific Climate Shift of 1976.

So, Ms.Haskins, Bluto says…

Added bonus: Bill Maher making an ignorant @$$ of himself

On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher criticized the media for not giving attention to climate change increasing hurricane strength during their coverage of Hurricane Michael.

Maher said, “First of all, we feel bad for the people who got hit by the hurricane, of course. We wish them the least pain possible, but anytime there’s a hurricane, the news turns into a wet t-shirt contest. … And what pisses me off is that what’s souping up the hurricanes gets less coverage. Hey media, link those two, as long as you’re out there in the storm. Link them.”

Breitbart

0 0 votes
Article Rating
95 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Walter Horsting
October 14, 2018 6:50 am

World extreme weather: http://worldtimeline.info/weather/

October 14, 2018 6:55 am

The attempt to green Vernadsky, who coined the Noosphere (distinct from the biosphere responsible for most of the sediments of geological epochs) is intensifying as China, Russia and the USA get closer to the BRI, the greatest infrastructure program of the entire Holocene. Quite a lot of sediment has settled here on this issue.
The issue is not geological, rather the psychozoic as Vernadsky explains very well in various new translations (from French and Russian). The greening is not the only problem, even the USSR censored pieces of these works.

E J Zuiderwijk
Reply to  bonbon
October 14, 2018 8:58 am

Can I have some of your filling? What did you put into it?

BCBill
Reply to  bonbon
October 14, 2018 6:47 pm

This garble is bot and paid for.

xouzd
Reply to  bonbon
October 14, 2018 8:40 pm

It’s the clouds. The mushroom cluods.

HD Hoese
October 14, 2018 7:07 am

The1919 storm struck south of Corpus Christi, Texas with 5 feet or more water from Biloxi, Mississippi (near 89 degrees W) to Port Isabel, Texas (97+ degrees W), 10 to 13 feet from Velasco (near Brazos River mouth) to Port Aransas, Texas. It came near the Louisiana coast south of Houma, Louisiana and moved west. I doubt that the minimum pressure or maximum wind was measured. It probably wasn’t in Harvey either. (Frankenfield, H. C. 1919. Special forecasts and warnings. Weather and crops. Weather warnings, September, 1919. Monthly Weather Review. 47(9):664-674.)

There are others and they did predict hurricanes back then. (Cline, I. M. 1920. Relation of changes in storm tides on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico to the center and movement of hurricanes. Monthly Weather Review. 48(3):127-146.)

Neil Jordan
Reply to  HD Hoese
October 14, 2018 11:15 am

Thank you for the reminder re:
“There are others and they did predict hurricanes back then. (Cline, I. M. 1920. Relation of
changes in storm tides on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico to the center and movement of hurricanes. Monthly Weather Review. 48(3):127-146.)”

Cline is Isaac Monroe Cline, director of the U.S. Weather Bureau’s Galveston office in 1900. Read it all in “Isaac’s Storm”.
https://www.amazon.com/Isaacs-Storm-Deadliest-Hurricane-History/dp/0375708278

From the end sheet: “At the dawn of the twentieth century, a great confidence suffused America. Isaac Cline was one of the era’s new men, a scientist who believed he knew all there was to know about the motion of clouds and the behavior of storms.”

The book is a page-turner and a wakeup call against mixing politics with weather (and climate) forecasting. A memorable quote: “It seems to me that the disbursements of the Weather Bureau for scientists are altogether too extravagant. . .The man in charge was to be . . . Dunwoody, head of the forecast-verification unit, and one of that all-too-common variety of men who feast on boot polish and see the failures of others as stepping stones toward their own success. . .Dunwoody was a snake.”

Richard Keen
Reply to  Neil Jordan
October 14, 2018 4:02 pm

Cline later (1926) wrote a book titled “Tropical Cyclones”, which for decades afterwards was a go-to reference for hurricanes and their brethren (and sisters). I got a copy in the 1960s, and still have it.
http://www.islandnet.com/~see/weather/history/icline3.htm

Editor
October 14, 2018 7:08 am

Camille left 113 dead in Virginia, as well as 143 on the Gulf Coast

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/history/#camille

Joe Banks
Reply to  Paul Homewood
October 14, 2018 9:25 am

Those lives will be adjusted away. As Camille is downgraded to a weak catagory 1.

tweak
Reply to  Paul Homewood
October 14, 2018 11:02 pm

Cat-1 my ass. That was the only bona-fide landfalling Cat-5. Andrew got upgraded after the fact but was closer in size to an over sized tornado.

Interesting how Michael followed a near identical formation track as Camille and only managed a projected Cat-4. (Instrument record is a bit lacking)

John Tillman
Reply to  tweak
October 14, 2018 11:32 pm

Good point.

So much for allegedly warmer Gulf waters in 2018 v. 1969.

Carbon Bigfoot
October 14, 2018 7:17 am

Lived in the Coal Regions of Pennsylvania near Hazelton in 1954 and experienced Hazel. I will never forget the weird sensation I felt when I went outside during the EYE. Fortunately by the time Hazel reached our region the winds were not damaging as I recall.
The worst Hurricane I experienced was in 1972 with Agnes. Major flooding in SE PA and I was stuck for three days in Philadelphia where I worked, because my commute home to western suburbs was impossible. Devastating flooding occurred on area rivers—cresting above their bridges on all major roads leading to the western suburbs where I lived.
Recently noted Condominiums constructed along the floodway that was under 50 feet of water in Pottstown, PA where I lived in 1972. Will we ever learn? As Abscam Ozzie stated ” Money Talks and Bullsheet Walks”.

Dr Francis Manns
Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
October 14, 2018 8:05 am

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cpga49bbnn7q062/It%27s%20not%20the%20heat….pdf?dl=0

I live in Toronto. The city bought the ravine land after Hazel and they are now beautiful spaces full of people and bikes in daytime raccoons and coywolves after dark.

History does punish those who live on floodplains and do not study geology; anthropocene indeed! Ignore it and it will go away.

pochas94
Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
October 14, 2018 8:14 am

I remember my brother and I playing in that hurricane. The Wyomissing Creek was out of its bed and had flooded a clearing to a depth of maybe 8 inches. We were running and body surfing on the flood water.

Steve Lohr
Reply to  Carbon Bigfoot
October 14, 2018 10:15 am

I too remember Hazel. I was only in the first grade but my mother explained that a hurricane was passing by. We were living in Ohio and I didn’t know enough to think much more about it but when I was allowed to look outside the light was a very strange green cast and there was a lot of rain. I have never seen such a thing since.

commieBob
October 14, 2018 7:30 am

What we really don’t understand is why the climate has been so stable for the last 10,000 years. The previous interglacial, the Eemian, is characterized by a series of cold periods. link I’m pretty sure agriculture would not have developed in Europe under such conditions. Our present civilization probably exists because because of the uncanny stability of the Holocene climate.

The alarmists seem to think a stable climate is normal. As far as I can tell, nothing could be further from the truth.

Old England
Reply to  commieBob
October 14, 2018 7:49 am

It’s not stable – but if you claim it to be stable then you can pretend that normal weather is somehow esceptional …….

if you look at the Little Ice Age and documentary evidence during this period you will find for example 1661 from Samuel Pepys Diary :

“ it is strange what weather we have had all this winter;no cold at all,but the ways are dusty and the flyes fly up and down,and the rose bushes are full of leaves;such a time of year as never was known in this world before here ” Samuel Pepys on the 21st January 1661.

In 1657 to 1658, snow lay on the ground for 102 days—indicating exceptionally cold weather even for the times. Records for central England from 1670 to 1700 suggest that snow lay on the ground for an average of 20 to 30 days (in some years more than 100 days) (from Lamb)

1683-84 The Great Winter
The ‘Great Winter’**: apparently, trees died due to the severity (and length) of the frost; ships were stranded by ice several miles out into the North Sea – this latter a major concern as much commerce was done in these days via coastal shipping. In December, a “deep” frost until mid-month, then a thaw until just before Christmas, then from ~21st December(OSP) intense freeze for much of the time until at least mid-January. Ice formed on the Thames in London, sufficient to bear all sorts of sports, perambulations and even cooking! The frost lasted overall for some two months. (much of the foregoing from Ian Currie). The severe weather lasted in parts of England until about 20th February(OSP), though with variations in depth of cold. For example, in records from Kendal (Westmorland / Cumbria) ‘hard frost’ is noted from November 3rd, 1607 to March 6th, 1608(OSP).

1590-91
1591 (1591 or 1592) A drought so great that horsemen could ride across the Thames at/near London Bridge & the River Trent was also said to be almost DRY.

1610 Excessive hot
Excessive hot dry summer. Great plenty of wine.
Hot, dry summer (London/South); from other records there is mention of ‘four months’ of drought at Derby, so as might be expected, these hot, dry conditions extended across a greater part of southern & central England at least – more than that it would be wrong to assume. (booty)

etc etc with many records of huge storms, heat waves and droughts, cold winters and some very cold summers leading to famine across Europe.

Old England
Reply to  Old England
October 14, 2018 7:52 am

Sorry, forgot to say that the above was taken from ; “‘The Long slow thaw? Temperature reconstruction 1538-1659 through a reappraisal of the work of Hubert Lamb and Michael Mann’ Supplementary information”

I have this as a .pdf but forget the author and apologise to him for that.
OE

BillP
Reply to  Old England
October 14, 2018 9:48 am

It is by Tony Brown and is on on Judith Curry’s blog, see https://judithcurry.com/2011/12/01/the-long-slow-thaw/

H.R.
Reply to  BillP
October 14, 2018 10:40 pm

Yes. Can’t say enough good about Tony Brown. He went after historical accounts of conditions instead of dubious historical imputed temperature measurements. Interesting reading.

It’s tough to argue with with a 1600s report of, “Sheep dying. Cattle dying. Crops failing. Freezing my nuts off in July.”

Historical accounts don’t give an exact temperature, but we we can catch the drift.

Dr Francis Manns
Reply to  Old England
October 14, 2018 8:14 am
MarkW
Reply to  Old England
October 14, 2018 8:29 am

He’s not saying it’s stable, merely stable compared to other interglacials.

Reply to  Old England
October 14, 2018 12:22 pm

One of the theories for the traditional Well Dressing in the Derbyshire and Staffordshire Peak District is a thanks that they didn’t dry out in the 17th century Droughts. The earliest known record of well dressing in the area is from mid-18th century.

Kevin Whalen
Reply to  commieBob
October 15, 2018 8:09 am

Is it stable compared to the previous interglacial? Our knowledge of that relies on reconstructions that have buttloads of uncertainty for both the temps and the timescales for when they occurred. This interglacial is the only that has had any record of observation. If we include historical observation of effect (sans temp) then, at most, we can say we have observational records of the last 1000 years or so. To say those observations were “spotty” until the last 100 years or so would be an understatement of massive proportions. I can even make the case that our observations didnt get “good” until the satellite record started 40 or so years ago. As bad as all that is, there’s still plenty of evidence of volatility and that’s just in the last 1000 years of a 10,000 year interglacial.

So, how do we KNOW, the current interglacial is more stable than the previous? Do we really have enough info to make that comparison?

Crispin in Waterloo
October 14, 2018 7:33 am

I love it: “Link them!”

Wow. This is what you get from feelings-based evidence (FBETM

“If I feel it is true, that is proof enough for me.”

Bill
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
October 14, 2018 5:54 pm

Descartes corollary: I think therefore I’m right!

BCBill
Reply to  Bill
October 14, 2018 6:53 pm

Shouldn’t that be “I don’t think, therefore I am correct”?

October 14, 2018 7:43 am

Then there is Thermonuclear Stupid, to wit: The Goracle.

“Gore: Jet Stream ‘Getting Loopier and Wavier,’ So ‘We Have a Global Emergency’“
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/gore-jet-stream-getting-loopier-and-wavier-so-we-have-a-global-emergency/

The only thing getting loopier is Gore himself.

marlene
Reply to  Robert Troth
October 14, 2018 3:27 pm

Even loopy may have accidentally hit on something: If I had such a choice, I’d vote for the penguin before I’d re-elect any of the snakes in congress now.

marlene
Reply to  Robert Troth
October 14, 2018 3:29 pm

WHERE’S MY REPLY???

John Tillman
Reply to  marlene
October 14, 2018 3:37 pm

Finally arrived from its excellent adventure in cyberspace.

marlene
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 7:00 pm

LOL! Thanks.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 7:08 pm

After hours, my reply to Hocus Locus October 14, 2018 at 9:01 am remains adrift in cyberspace, its rudder, masts and rigging apparently shot away.

marlene
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 7:36 pm

LOL Apparently a less than excellent adventure. Is this the one:

“Hocus Locus October 14, 2018 at 9:01 am
As a good tangent to the ignorant yawping that Hurricane Michael is unprecedented in the ‘Anthroposcene’ … here’s a great summary of Hurricane landfalls in the Western Florida Panhandle (1559-1999) … unfortunately the map has succumbed to link rot but the text is golden.”

Possible solution: Send another reply “WHERE’S MY COMMENT?” There might be a trigger in it. LOL

marlene
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 7:38 pm

WHERE’S MY COMMENT???

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 8:01 pm

Marlene,

Thanks for the suggestion, but my comment didn’t really add all that much to the main topic. I just noted that Spanish military and colonization ventures in FL could be added to long list historical events and movements affected by extreme WX during the Little Ice Age.

In the 16th century, early Spanish settlement attempts were turned back by Gulf of Mexico storms. FL was so near to Cuba, but guarded by winds and waves during the summer months of otherwise good sailing WX.

The Spanish campaign against the British in the FL Panhandle during the US Revolutionary War was turned back by an August 1779 hurricane. In the next year, the Caribbean suffered the infamous Great Hurricane.

marlene
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 8:13 pm

Interesting history of the quasi-military usefulness of hurricanes. In Israel, storms were usually biblical. I do believe, however, that hurricane Michael was geoengineered using microwave technology, for political reasons. The patent for it was filed by China sometime in the 50’s and 60’s.

October 14, 2018 7:47 am

Once again we see the difference between sober science and conservative pragmatism, where what counts is actual results, and the Left Liberal view, where all that counts is perception

Perception sells product and buys votes.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Leo Smith
October 14, 2018 11:18 am

Perception is a pseudo-reality!

Dr Francis Manns
October 14, 2018 8:07 am
ren
Reply to  Dr Francis Manns
October 14, 2018 8:50 am

Ozone brings dry air and frost.
comment image

ren
Reply to  Dr Francis Manns
October 14, 2018 8:59 am
October 14, 2018 8:07 am

Just how can true scientists count deaths caused by an illogical action of a human during any natural event, like a Hurricane, as being a result of the event? When a person is repeatedly warned that if you drive through high water on the road “You will die” and then someone does such, I would call that suicide. When a person is repeatedly warned that, due to the 150+ mph winds, that if you stay in the area “You will die,” and then someone does such, I would call that suicide. Same for a Bomb Test area surrounded with a fence and warning areas that there will be a bomb test. Counting these illogical actions is actually a measure of the lack of intelligence or lack of fear of the population involved, not the severity of the weather event. Older events, i.e., 50 to 75 years ago, there could be some correlation to severity but actually more correlation to locality, due to the lack of weather forecasting ability.

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  David Middleton
October 14, 2018 8:30 am

That sign is a bit too clever for about 80% of the population to fully understand.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Usurbrain
October 14, 2018 8:33 am

Let’s label a gun fight with police, speeding on highways, drug use and any other form of self inflicted ignorant action that causes your own death (Darwinisms) as suicide.

Reply to  Usurbrain
October 14, 2018 8:43 am

Just like this truck driver. Ignored the warnings signs put up by highway engineers.

https://www.10news.com/news/video-big-rig-tumbles-over-sr-175-embankment

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
October 14, 2018 7:26 pm

I can imagine that driver though a little water would not affect a rig like that.

Latitude
Reply to  Usurbrain
October 14, 2018 9:07 am

Might as well count looters that were shot…
If it wasn’t for the hurricane, they wouldn’t have been out there looting

MarkW
October 14, 2018 8:26 am

What the heck is an “Individualized Degree”?

Kevin Kilty
Reply to  MarkW
October 14, 2018 8:37 am

I would bet that we have such degrees even at my relatively conservative university–or we will soon as our new administration updates curriculum. It means only that the student put together a program of study and got some faculty member or a committee to approve it as worthy of a degree. But then, without strict guidelines, you could probably find some faculty member on any campus that would approve snipe hunting as an acceptable PE credit.

Barbara Skolaut
Reply to  Kevin Kilty
October 14, 2018 1:10 pm

“you could probably find some faculty member on any campus that would approve snipe hunting as an acceptable PE credit”

It isn’t?

GUILLERMO SUAREZ
October 14, 2018 8:27 am

Hurricane Andrew blew through South Florida in about 3 hours , and though I do not know this for a fact , it may have inflicted the greatest cost(in billions of dollars) per hour of any Hurricane .And yet , it could have been much worse had the first land mass “Hit’ by the eye Wall , in particular the Northern Wall , been Miami Beach ,or Key Biscayne , and the second landmass encountered the massive development along the western shoreline of North Biscayne Bay. The loss of life and property damage would probably have increased by a factor of 3 or 4 , since not having had a major hurricane strike South Florida in over 20 years, many were complacent . These areas are a mere 20- 30 miles North of the actual landfall of Elliott Key (uninhabited, and part of Biscayne National Park ) , followed by the Mangrove Forest along the Western edge of Biscayne National Park. The Storm surge in South Dade county reached 20 plus feet , a RADAR for the National Hurricane Center just East of U of M was blown away by wind gust of 170 miles/ hour(this was North of the Northern edge of the eye wall ) . Maximum sustained winds (in the eye wall )were at least 170 miles/hour with gust reaching well over 200 mph.

Larry Geiger
Reply to  GUILLERMO SUAREZ
October 14, 2018 10:29 am

I was in Homestead a week after Andrew. We took trucks and suburbans loaded with diapers, enfamil and some other necessities to a church down there for distribution. I stood on the slab of a house that was blown away. No storm surge. Just wind. Nothing left but broken PVC pipes. No sign of the house or it’s contents. It wasn’t pushed over or broken apart on the next street. It was just gone. I suppose that it ended up in the Everglades, I don’t know. Everything scrubbed clean. I’ve lived in Florida since 1953 and I’ve seen a lot of stuff but I’ve never seen anything like Andrew’s aftermath. And yet, drive a few miles north and everything was normal. Gas stations were pumping gas, stores selling stuff, etc. It was a bad thing.

taz1999
Reply to  Larry Geiger
October 14, 2018 11:48 am

My grandmothers house was in Kendall about 2 miles from the mall that blew down. The walls stayed up but the roof blew off and interestingly (or not) all the pictures in the interior hall were blown out. Gone, not to be found. The coffee pot in the kitchen disappeared.

Weird inexplicable stuff happens in these outlier events. Probably we notice because these things don’t happen very often. When the power came back on after Irma my pool pump wouldn’t start. The pump had been off at the breaker while I was on generator. Three roaches had fried on the starting capacitor but the only way for them to get in was from the inside of the pump. Anyone caring, the roaches took the pump out, not just the capacitor…. three weeks later I can get the pump replaced.

Hocus Locus
October 14, 2018 9:01 am

As a good tangent to the ignorant yawping that Hurricane Michael is unprecedented in the ‘Anthroposcene’ … here’s a great summary of Hurricane landfalls in the Western Florida Panhandle (1559-1999) … unfortunately the map has succumbed to link rot but the text is golden.

John Tillman
Reply to  Hocus Locus
October 14, 2018 3:48 pm

Thanks!

More instances of the effect of cyclones on history. The destructive August 1779 hurricane was from the season before the Great Hurricane. The Spanish should have known better than to launch a fleet across the Gulf during hurricane season. But I guess they didn’t want the British to have more time further to fortify.

Spain’s aid in the Revolutionary War is often overlooked, compared to France’s. Spain was reluctant at first to join its ally, for fear of giving her own colonists ideas. But early on, she did provide arms and munitions, via the Mississippi Valley, hence George Rogers Clark’s Illinois campaign against the British in the region, leading to his 1778 victory at Kaskaskia and, after a daring winter march, the 1779 capture of Vincennes.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 11:39 pm

Thanks Mods, for bringing this comment safely to its appointed destination after its long journey through the wilds of outer cyberspace!

tweak
Reply to  Hocus Locus
October 14, 2018 11:30 pm

Btw, they are still finding bits an pieces of Tristan De Lunas flotilla. 2004 Ivan unearthed one of them.

John Tillman
Reply to  tweak
October 14, 2018 11:36 pm

Pensacola can lay claim to primacy over St. Augustine as oldest European settlement on what would become US territory:

https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2015/12/17/we-found-lunas-colony/77449884/

Although obviously not continuous, neither is St. Augustine.

tweak
Reply to  John Tillman
October 15, 2018 7:57 am

And to this day Pensacola celebrates this Idiot (de Luna) every year.

WXcycles
Reply to  Hocus Locus
October 15, 2018 2:29 am

Sounds a bit sus, 97% sure there wasn’t enough CO2 back then to create hurricanes.

October 14, 2018 9:40 am

Yet another case of Climate Derangement Syndrome
…. closely related to Trump Derangement Syndrome
Commonly , individuals with also have the other

Bruce Cobb
October 14, 2018 10:33 am

“the likes of which we’ve never seen in the history of our species”
translation: “I’ve never seen it myself”.
“unprecedented in the history of our planet”
translation: I am really just spitballing now, but am on a roll. Could just as well have said ” unprecedented in the history of the universe”.

tty
October 14, 2018 10:36 am

By the way. I know about flash floods, but what is “flashing flooding”. Do they have warning lights nowadays?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 11:22 am

“flashing flooding” is what Mr. Flooding does when he is out and about in his trench coat.

Walt D.
October 14, 2018 10:43 am

We Still Don’t Understand the Superstorms of the Anthropocene
Explanation 1. The science is settled – it was caused by CO2 emissions from a coal plant in China.

Explanation 2. It was caused by butterflies flapping their wings in Tokyo.

Take your pick.

BillP
Reply to  Walt D.
October 14, 2018 10:51 am

Explanation 3. It is caused by people flying to climate conferences.

Lokki
October 14, 2018 10:52 am

You want a destructive hurricane?

“The Great Hurricane of 1780, also known as Huracán San Calixto, the Great Hurricane of the Antilles, and the 1780 Disaster, is the deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record. Between 20,000 and 24,000 people died throughout the Lesser Antilles when the storm passed through them from October 10–16.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hurricane_of_1780

Oh, wait, it doesn’t count because it occurred before the Industrial Age really got going.

Never mind

John Tillman
Reply to  Lokki
October 14, 2018 1:49 pm

I tried to post links to hurricanes of the LIA, c. AD 1350-1850, but apparently there were too many. My comment is lost in cyberspace. But I cited the Great Hurricane of 1780 as an example, too.

Colder is stormier.

The most famous LIA hurricane inspired Shakespeare’s “The Tempest”, and stranded my ancestor John Rolfe on Bermuda in 1609. He and his shipmates eventually made it to Virginia, where he married Matoaka “Pocahontas” Powhatan, aka Rebecca Rolfe, which couple together saved the colony by growing tobacco.

Yes, British America owed its existence to the drug trade, ie nicotine and alcohol (rum). Tragically, Mrs. Rolfe died, aged about 21, in disease-ridden Stuart England. But her husband and her two year-old son Thomas survived, to give rise to the “Red Bollings” of VA.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 2:32 pm

French, Dutch and Swedish North America were by contrast mainly supported by the fur trade with Northeastern Indian tribes. The British captured New Amsterdam (New York) during the Anglo-Dutch Wars and Canada in the Seven Years (French and Indian) War. The colonies of DE, PA and NJ adsorbed New Sweden, from whose settlers British colonists learned the art of log cabin building.

spangled drongo
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 9:25 pm

“Colder is stormier.”

I’m sure that is right, JT. In those cool years prior to the big Pacific climate shift of the late “70s I spent many nights on the east coast of Australia trying to prevent ocean front houses from being washed out to sea during repetitive cyclones which have not occurred for the last 40 years.

Subsequently, as memories fade, those same houses have changed hands for tens of millions as the beaches have never looked more magnificent.

But imagine the screams when it all happens again, as it will.

John Tillman
Reply to  spangled drongo
October 14, 2018 9:31 pm

Drongo,

Present owners would be well advised to sell now to foreigners, before the next cool cycle gets going. Or before Oz, like NZ, bans alien home ownership.

And in the meantime make sure that their insurance policies cover all eventualities.

Anyone alive and in the wild during 1977 should well recall the PDO shift and concern over global cooling of that decade, which makes nonsense of the CACA charade by shameless charlatans.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 9:32 pm

Sorry. Out of place, but at least this time my comment showed up, rather than being lost in the aether.

spangled drongo
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 9:29 pm

“Colder is stormier.”

I’m sure that is right, JT. In those cool years prior to the big Pacific climate shift of the late “70s I spent many nights on the east coast of Australia trying to prevent ocean front houses from being washed out to sea during repetitive cyclones which have not occurred for the last 40 years.

Subsequently, as memories fade, those same houses have changed hands for tens of millions as the beaches have never looked more magnificent.

But imagine the screams when it all happens again, as it will.
2

Peta of Newark
October 14, 2018 12:54 pm

Days of yore…
From a TV prog I caught somehow some ages ago, it went on about everyday living hazards of Victorian and pre Victorian folks in the UK.

Apart from the niceties of using things like arsenic, mercury and lead oxide in everyday chores around the home, a truly major hazard came from simply doing the laundry.
Typically it meant visiting the local river or stream.
Even very small streams of water killed thousands annually, primarily because of the woollen clothes everyone wore. If you slipped or fell into the water, the wool you were wearing would instantly become a ton of dead weight and pull you in.
The female presenter (most of the folks who did laundry were young women) actually demonstrated and it was genuinely scary to watch, even though you knew plenty people were around to drag her out.

Cotton might do something similar but not to the same extent as wool but, what about that horrible plastic polyester?
How many people nowadays fall into water and climb right back out, whereas 200 years ago, it was deadly.

And you know what I might have to say about Flash Flooding….

tty
Reply to  Peta of Newark
October 14, 2018 1:44 pm

And don’t forget that for Karl Marx one of the awful things about industrialization and capitalism was that it was causing people to shift to cotton clothing instead of the goode old woolens.

Strange how different things can look in retrospect.

John Tillman
October 14, 2018 1:39 pm

In the past thousand years, the storms of the LIA were the most extreme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricanes_before_1600#Pre-1500

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricanes_in_the_17th_century

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricanes_in_the_18th_century

The deadliest Atlantic hurricane on record was The Great Hurricane of 1780, which killed approximately 22,000 people when it struck several Caribbean islands. Although records from the time are poor, it is believed to have first made landfall on October 10 in Barbados before tearing through other islands in the eastern Caribbean.

Accurate measures of wind speed and rainfall are not available, but a person living in the area noted that the wind from the storm ripped bark off trees. This observation has led to speculation that winds may have reached speeds of over 200 mph. The populations of Barbados, St. Lucia and Martinique were all devastated by the storm. Great Britain and France also lost a number of soldiers aboard warships fighting the American Revolution when the storm hit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1800%E2%80%9309_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1810%E2%80%9319_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1820%E2%80%9329_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1830%E2%80%9339_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1840%E2%80%9349_Atlantic_hurricane_seasons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1850_Atlantic_hurricane_season

After 1850, the annual season records are better.

Colder is stormier.

tty
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 1:46 pm

The 1780 hurricane also razed solid masonry fortifications, also indicating quite exceptional winds.

John Tillman
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 1:50 pm

Thanks for that important detail showing the exceptional force of that natural disaster.

I’m glad a comment with so many links finally reentered our neck of the space-time continuum.

tty
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 1:55 pm

And don’t forget the Great Storm of 1694 that buried the whole village and manor of Culbin with a thousand acres of farmland in Scotland under huge sand dunes.

And the 1690’s was the very coldest decade of the LIA.

John Tillman
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Now that’s extreme! When a Scottish village is buried by a tropical cyclone again, we’ll know that the age of superstorms has returned.

The 1690s were the depths of the LIA and of the Maunder Minimum.

Coincidence? I think not!

John Tillman
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 2:15 pm

And extreme WX can be blamed for Spain’s loss of its South American empire, doomed by a terrible storm in the Southern Ocean during the Dalton Minimum. The loss of life in the Spanish naval shipwreck was terrible:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Telmo_(ship)

John Tillman
October 14, 2018 2:42 pm

Speaking of the effect of cyclones on history, the two kamikaze typhoons are probably among the best known. Some date the onset of the LIA from as early as AD 1250, in which case these “divine winds” of 1274 and 1281, which sank Mongol invasion fleets of Japan with horrific loss of life, also count.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_(typhoon)

Japanese resistance also helped.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 14, 2018 2:45 pm

During or near the Wolf Minimum, which can be seen either as the beginning of the LIA or a late counter-trend cycle in the Medieval Warm Period:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Carbon14_with_activity_labels.svg

tty
October 14, 2018 3:15 pm

En liknelse att tänka på när det blir diskussion om effekten av en halv grads klimatförändring.

Temperaturen sjunker i genomsnitt ca 0,6 grader per hundra meter.

En halv grad är alltså mindre än hälften av klimatskillnaden mellan bottenvåningen och översta våningen i Turning Torso.

John Tillman
Reply to  tty
October 14, 2018 3:36 pm

Catastrophically too hot at the bottom and dangerously too cold at the top.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_Torso

Tack!

October 14, 2018 5:20 pm

“… the Anthropocene—a bizarre chapter of earth’s history in which human activity is causing changes to the climate, the likes of which we’ve never seen in the history of our species, and at a speed that’s unprecedented in the history of our planet.”

A claimed hurricane Michael power outage for two and a half days here in central NC has kept me away from WUWT, but I see that the stupid has not subsided, during my brief time away.

Good grief, could Caroline Haskins get anymore dramatic than the above quote indicates ?!

Let’s review: … the likes of which we’ve never seen in the history of our species , and at a speed that’s unprecedented in the history of our planet.

First of all, our species does NOT have a “history”. Second, our planet does NOT have a “history”. The word, “history”, has the word, “story”, in it, which means that a human has to be alive to relay the story of human experience. “History” = “his story” (a story told by a person). Now maybe the word is sexually biased, and it should be “his/herstory”. Or, even more gender neutral, “humanstory”. But I digress.

The point is, the writer is attributing a human consciousness to the timescale of Earth and to the time scale of our entire species. There is no way to know how to compare “history” with these time scales. The writer’s wording, then, is the wording of a fantasy time traveler who would have to have experienced everything of the past and everything of the species. It’s just ridiculous. Pure fantasy.

DaleC
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
October 14, 2018 11:06 pm

The etymology of ‘history’ has nothing to do with the words ‘his’ + ‘story’, but interestingly, it is indeed ‘sexist’ if you dig deep enough:

late 14c., “relation of incidents” (true or false), from Old French estoire, estorie “story; chronicle, history” (12c., Modern French histoire), from Latin historia “narrative of past events, account, tale, story,” from Greek historia “a learning or knowing by inquiry; an account of one’s inquiries, history, record, narrative,” from historein “inquire,” from histor “wise man, judge,” from PIE *wid-tor-, from root *weid- “to see.”

https://www.etymonline.com/word/history#etymonline_v_12040

Reply to  DaleC
October 15, 2018 8:52 am

Dale,

It might have nothing to do with “his”, but it seems certainly to have something to do with “story”.

Even your own quoted words support this:

from Old French estoire, estorie “story; chronicle, history” (12c., Modern French histoire)

Even going back as far as ancient Greek possible origins, the word suggests the necessity of a human presence to relay an accounting of events. No humans, no story. No humans, no human presence to relay any accounting of events.

The point is, the word, “history”, requires a human presence, even more, a developed human consciousness of events. Over the geological time scale, there is NOT a continuous human presence, let alone a recording of human experiences of events, because humans have not existed all this time. Even over the time scale of the human species, there is NOT a human consciousness of events at the level of development required to relay an accounting of all the events of the species over this whole time.

The phrases, “history of the species” and “history of the planet”, thus, are absurd phrases. Pure fantasy writing, done in a way to give a false sense of drama, in order to scare people. Writing like this is illegitimate journalism.

SAMURAI
October 14, 2018 8:10 pm

The terrible 1900 Galveston Cat4 hurricane killed an astounding 12,000 Texans (before any manmade CO2 forcing could have existed)…

To say Florence or Micheal were the worst US hurricanes evaaaa, ‘cuz Climate Change, is simply denying history, which Loony Leftists do with alacrity…

WXcycles
Reply to  SAMURAI
October 15, 2018 2:32 am

Probably due to steamships chugging across the GOM.