Guest essay by Eric Worrall
According to Former Irish President and UN Apparatchik Mary Robinson, President Trump’s refusal to hand over loads of money for clean energy research is hurting people’s feelings.
Mary Robinson on climate change: ‘Feeling “This is too big for me” is no use to anybody’
The former president of Ireland has a new raison d’être: saving the planet. Yet, despite the dire warnings of this week’s IPCC report, she is surprisingly upbeat.
by Rory Carroll
Sat 13 Oct 2018On the morning that the world’s leading climate scientists warn that the planet has until 2030 to avert a global warming catastrophe, Mary Robinson appears suitably sombre. She wears black shoes, black trousers and a black sweater and perches at the end of a long table at her climate justice foundation, headquartered in an austere, imposing Georgian building opposite Trinity College Dublin. The only dash of brightness is a multicoloured brooch on her lapel. “It symbolises the sustainable development goals,” she says. “It’s the one good emblem that the United Nations has produced, so I like to wear it.”
There seems little reason for cheer on this Monday. The landmark report by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has just warned that urgent, unprecedented changes are needed to keep global warming to a maximum of 1.5C; even half a degree beyond this will significantly worsen the risks of drought, floods, extreme heat and poverty for hundreds of millions of people. Donald Trump, rejecter of the Paris climate agreement, is riding high on the back of Brett Kavanaugh’s elevation to the US supreme court. Britain and the EU are consumed by Brexit. Brazil is on course to elect a president who wants to open the Amazon to agribusiness. Closer to home, the Irish government is flunking its climate policy goals. Now, climate scientists warn that the clock ticks ever closer to midnight.
“Governments are not responding at all adequately to the stark reality that the IPCC is pointing to: that we have about 11 years to make really significant change,” says Robinson, sitting ramrod straight, all business. “This report is extraordinarily important, because it’s telling us that 2 degrees is not safe. It’s beyond safe. Therefore, we have to work much, much harder to stay at 1.5 degrees. I’ve seen what 1 degree is doing in more vulnerable countries … villages are having to move, there’s slippage, there’s seawater incursion.”
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So, while the Trump administration withholds leadership and money from the global effort for clean energy – “That’s where it hurts” – the US may yet meet Paris emissions targets, thanks to efforts by We Are Still In, a coalition of mayors, governors, tribal leaders, colleges, businesses, faith groups and investors that is continuing to follow the terms of the agreement. The movement to divestment from fossil fuels is also making progress. “They’ve now moved to trillions being divested. That’s very significant.”
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Just a few hundred billion per year would put a smile back on Mary Robinson’s face. Perhaps she would dress in happy colors, rather than “sustainable development goal” sombre black.
You do care, don’t you?
No, put money into science that shows CO2 is beneficial. Teump will last 8 years, science lasts forever. If he really wants to kill this CAGW BS off, this is what he has to do.
I’m not gonna quibble with his actions on this, since he’s already done more to fight the climate change nonsense than everyone else on the world stage put together, and you can add all ex-US presidents to that list.
Yes— but that liberal junkie AVANKA will add to the pressure of Trump’s Dad/Daughter relationship as she has already bought into the IPCC/UN mantra from her NYC social circle.
Intelligent yes, not a scientist or critical thinker IMHO.
Re the “New York Social Circle”:
Typically, these people have NO scientific education, do not understand the Scientific
Method, and the only opinions they believe on climate and energy issues are those they get from the leftist media and their idiot friends.
Typically, they are so scientifically incompetent that you could probably persuade them that their lives are threatened by a trace gas in the atmosphere that has increased from 3 parts in 10,000 to 4 parts in 10,000, and that they must destroy the vital energy systems that keep us alive in order to fight this fictitious threat.
Oh! Wait a second! They already believe that nonsense!
“The Madness of Crowds”.
I am not sure we need more proof that CO2 is beneficial as the evidence is all around, though I won’t argue against spending money understanding reality. I think the defunding that has happened under Trump of a lot of the UN IPCC nonsense is a phenomenal antidote to stupidity, and fraud. Would welcome much more of the same policy.
Long past time to make all the thieves in UN pay their own way, out of America.
UN / UNFCCC
FCCC/AGBM/1995/6
23 October 1995
“Ad Hoc Group On The Berlin Mandate”
Re: Policy Objectives for Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions.
Much of this has already been implemented and both Canada and the USA contributed to this Ad Hoc Group.
https://unfccc.int/cop3/resource/docs/1995/agbm/06.pdf
UNFCCC
Articles: Search results, “Berlin Mandate”
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=Berlin%20Mandate
Ireland is among the Countries that contributed to the Ad Hoc Group On the “Berlin Mandate”, 1995/6.
UNFCCC
Articles: Search results, “Berlin Mandate” Canada and USA
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=Berlin%20Mandate%20Canada
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=Berlin%20Mandate%20USA
Articles date back to 1995/6. Can also be searched by Country. Appear to be Annex 1 Countries.
simple solution…..tell them we will match China dollar for dollar
…won’t happen
We’ll match Mary Robinson dollar for dollar.
UNFCCC
Articles: Search results, Mary Robinson Foundation.
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=Mary%20Robinson%20Foundation
UNFCCC connections.
There should be a worldwide critical review and full disclosure of the many thousands of interlocking alleged “foundations” and other tax dodges run by politicians and other insiders.
The light of day would likely be to them as sunlight to a Vampire.
UNFCCC
Articles: Search results for “sub-national actions”, Ireland
https://unfccc.int/gcse?q=sub-national%20actions%20Ireland
Just some information on what’s taking place in Ireland.
“sub-national actions” search can also be done by Country including Canada and the USA. Substitute Canada and/or USA in place of “Ireland” in the above.
Better yet let’s ask for all the money they already got that was wasted and/or stolen.
Studying the “climate” has been more
than a total waste of taxpayers’ money
— the false climate scaremongering
created the alternative energy industry,
kept alive by huge taxpayer subsidies.
Some people have gotten rich from
those subsidies … meaning the climate hoax,
was used to create a climate scam.
No one knows what the future climate will be.
Based on the huge “climate science”
spending so far,
it seems no amount of money
will ever allow us to predict the future climate.
Why bother studying the climate ?
A few degrees warmer is good news — ask the
people freezing in the late 1600s !
A lot colder climate
would be a big problem,
and that climate is
a lot more common than
the warmer “interglacial”
we are in now.
But the cold climate
appears to be caused
by planetary geometry
— nothing we can do
about that.
So … there are a billion people
in this world without electricity,
including those living
on the streets in the US,
but who cares about them?
What we need,
say the climate liars,
is lots of windmills,
and solar panels,
and taxes on “carbon pollution”
… because otherwise
it might be slightly warmer
in a few hundred years
… mainly at night
… mainly during the colder months
… and mainly in the higher (colder) latitudes.
That’s really scary … not.
My climate science blog:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com
The problem with being an alarmist AGW “scientist” is, if the grants dry up in that area, you don’t have enough scientific knowledge to get you a job anywhere else. Which is to say, you haven’t rally been doing science for the past 20 years.
Oh, I don’t know….is The Storm Channel hiring?
Translation: “Give us your money”.
Perhaps Mary Robinson could address all the past failed predictions of Climate Catastrophe. Why would anyone believe her?
Believe her because she it stilling there in black like some pious Mother Superior.
“Governments are not responding at all adequately to the stark reality that the IPCC is pointing to:… ”
That being a virtual “reality” is confined to the guts of some suitably tuned climate models.
Oh well, at least it has given her a purpose in life. She must be feeling a bit empty after the immense importance of her job as the symbolic Pres. of Ireland.
We’ve got to help the penguin!
https://youtu.be/mmXOfXGaIsM
“And here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson
Jesus loves you more than you will know
Wo wo wo
God bless you, please, Mrs. Robinson
Heaven holds a place for those who pray
Hey hey hey, hey hey hey”
(Hat-tip Simon and Garfunkel, of course!)
She is a version of the proverb by GK Chesterton (Irish), that if one doesn’t believe in God, one will believe in anything.
This climate Puritan is clearly post Christian in faith, but very much tied to severe pretentious expressions of her shallow reactionary pseudo-faith.
A worthy investment:
Factualism | Definition of factualism in English by Oxford …
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/factualism
Definition of factualism – Any theory that treats facts as being of prime importance.
People can’t agree on the facts. Facts to some are lies to others.
I thought France was offering money to climate science dudes who came to France.
How many giga-billions are required for “settled science”?
Why can’t this poor wretch Ms Robinson get a couple other countries to fund this research? Why must the cash come from the USA?
Here’s a good idea: cut all climate science conference junket budgets in half and give it to Ms Robinson (of course, there will be some UN “overhead charges”).
Perhaps Mary Robinson could address all the past failed predictions of Climate Catastrophe. Why would anyone believe her?
She’s a woman, we’re supposed to believe women, unconditionally. At least that’s what the left keep saying. I prefer to believe facts and evidence.
Okay,.. voting for Trump next time,..
Vote in this off election in 26 days or he won’t get the support to keep going!
+10 ✔️
Yes, everyone needs to vote straight Republican this time. If the Democrats win control of the House of Representatives then we are going to see a political circus in the House, like the one we saw in the U.S. Senate Kavanaugh confirmation hearings.
A Democrat-controlled House might impeach Trump and/or Kavanaugh, but it won’t go any farther than that because I expect the Republicans to hold control of the U.S. Senate, possibly even picking up a few more seats.
One problem the Republicans have in holding control of the House this year is that approximately 40 Republican House members are retiring this year, so there are 40 new Republican faces that their voters may not be that familiar with, which might give the Democrats an advantage.
Let’s hope the Democrats don’t get control because if they do they are going to poison the political process and weaken this nation by stirring up all the divisions they can find. Even more than they have already done.
Exactly. Even if they refrain from impeachment – knowing that it will never get past the senate, where it constitutionally requires 2/3rds super-majority to succeed (so even if they take the senate, they won’t have the votes) – they plan to tie up the administration with a blizzard of investigations. So it’s vitally important that they do not take the house. Which means everyone that can needs to vote Republican in the mid-term. Don’t let the temper tantrum throwing Dems have any of the power they crave.
She said that she had allowed former UN Secretary General Kofi Annan to “bully” her into taking the role of high commissioner, and that it was her “hardest decision” not to go for a second term as President of Ireland.
Robinson served as President between 1990 and 1997, before taking up the role as High Commissioner for Human Rights in September 1997. She served in this role until 2002.
Imagine that, a victim of bullying. More like something to do with the attack on Kavanaugh.
Mary Robinson resigned from the Irish presidency two months before her term ended. Her claim to have wanted to serve a second term makes little sense in the light of the fact that she abandoned her post as Irish president as soon as a cushy UN job became available. Given that her actions showed grave disrespect for the office, I suspect that she regarded the presidency of Ireland as no more than a stepping stone to the higher echelons of the UN.
It would be interesting to hear her view on the Pope’s clear statement on contract killings. That was her main theme a while back and likely the reason she hit the road.
Here’s to you, Mrs. Robinson ….
… double standards always pave the way.
Robinson was the first female President of Ireland, with huge popular support (I seem to remember feeling quite proud about that at the time) First thing she did when she arrived in the Aras (Irish Whitehouse) was to sack all the staff and installed her own crew. Some of whom had been there for many many years. Wasn’t long before she became unpopular. On one occasion, she was flying out on some official business and there was a guard of honor for her. Unlike her black black attire described above, this time she was wearing a bright yellow dress. As she moved along the line of guards, one of them was heard muttering ”Here comes Big Bird” to which there was a bit of a stifled chuckle among them. He was transferred to the wilderness for his quick wit.
I suppose, if it was Hillary, he would have met with a fatal accident. But, whatever pride I once had for Mary Robinson , it has long gone and replaced with lots of cringing and embarrassment. The ”Big Bird” moniker sticks to this day.
Eamon.
🙂
Communism finished when run out of other people money.
Soviet Communism finished when Soviet officials came to the West and discovered that they’d been lied to for decades. ‘You mean you don’t have to queue three days to buy bread? You just walk into a store and there are three hundred different types of bread to buy?’
This is one reason the left have been trying to wreck Western economies ever since.
To the extent that the US is reducing carbon emissions, it’s fracking-well due to shale, frac’ing, horizontal drilling and natural gas, not due to the efforts of a group of greetarded idiots. 63% of the reduction in US CO2 was due to switching from coal to natural gas.
Source: US EIA
Thanks, David, for responding to the nonsense.
I wish there was a way to get your comment to the confused lady.
That’s how it is with liberals. Anything good happened because of them, even if they can’t tell you how.
Anything bad that happened is someone else’s fault, for not giving the liberals more power and money.
even if we could get the comment “to the confused lady”, we can’t make her read it let alone understand it. That would require effort on her part, effort that her politics doesn’t allow her to expend.
David,
I would like to know more about these figures. I don’t quite understand how they fit into the whole picture. I followed the link, it just took me to the EIA site. Tried a search, couldn’t find the same table. Can you please provide a better link, or something to search for that will get me there?
Check out figures 10 and 11.
https://www.eia.gov/environment/emissions/carbon/
“The natural gas share of total electricity generation grew from approximately 12% in 1990 to 30% in 2012 and to 32% in 2017—a decline from the 34% share in 2016.
The non-carbon electricity generation share, including both nuclear and renewables, exceeded that of both coal and natural gas in 2016 and 2017.
The nuclear share of non‐carbon electricity generation has generally declined since the 73% share in 2001.
Hydropower, which historically has been the largest source of renewable electricity generation, has also lost share, falling from 34% of non‐carbon electricity generation in 1997 to 20% in 2017.
Wind and solar (combined) accounted for about 22% of non‐carbon electricity generation in 2017 and exceeded hydropower in 2016 after rising from less than 1% in 2000 to 2% in 2006.”
Mandates for Solar and Wind with their subsidies make the clearly cheaper Natgas power to run as a one cycle peaker plant, not a combined co-gen model…
The inefficient single cycle plants are a response to the inefficiencies introduced by guaranteed FIT prices for wind and solar.
Big surprise. Introducing non market subsidized prices destroyed the market.
The links for pre-2017 pdfs on that site appear to be broken. the 2017 pdf link works though it appears to be a pdf version of the html page you pointed to Kristi. (I was able to find the 2015 version on the wayback machine, but not the 2016 one that David was referencing).
also from that page/the 2017 pdf (from the Electricity generation section):
“Two basic factors contributed to lower carbon intensiy of electricity generation (CO2/kilowatthour) since 2005—the substitution of coal-fired generation with the less-carbon-intensive and more efficient combined-cycle natural gas-fired generation and the growth in non-carbon electricity generation, especially from wind and solar.”
“Between 2005 and 2017, CO2 emissions declined by a cumulative 3,855 MMmt as a result of these two factors (see methodology on page 21). Of this total, 2,360 MMmt can be attributed to the shift in fossil fuels to natural gas, and 1,494 MMmt can be attributed to the increase in non-carbon generation sources.”
so for 2017:
2360 out of 3855 is approx. 61.2% emissions decline due to shift to natural gas
1494 out of 3855 is approx. 38.8% emissions decline due to non-carbon sources (which, from the figures you previously posted is 54% nuclear and only 22% wind & solar)
Kristi, David’s table comes from the chart labeled figure 9 on the html page you referenced.
Let’s try an update David’s chart with the 2017 numbers (HTML IMG tags don’t work for me but maybe tables will):
CO2 Emission Reduction (million metric tons)
Natural Gas
Non-Carbon
2006
36
27
2007
65
-9
2008
65
23
2009
112
90
2010
123
64
2011
147
130
2012
268
112
2013
226
150
2014
232
164
2015
350
177
2016
388
241
Total
2017
348
325
Total
Sum
2,360
1,494
3,855
% of Total
61.2%
38.8%
Source: US EIA
Ok, format didn’t come out as nice as David’s despite copy & pasting the html for it from the page source but hopefully the idea is there. At least the link to the 2017 pdf works.
The deadline for world destruction by CO2 is now 11 years away, they say.
Can anyone take these people seriously when, even though it is as dire as they claim it is, they still have not called on China and India and others to stop building and using coal-fired powerplants and switch to nuclear instead?
If we were really in such dire straits, that would be one of the first things a rational person would do.
they still have not called on China and India and others to stop building and using coal-fired powerplants
They know they’d be laughed at…..
The former colonies are going nuclear, with Russian tech. Russia is already building six VVER-1000 nuclear power reactors at Kudankulam in the state of Tamil Nadu, and ordered six more nuclear power plants in the coastal Indian state of Andhra Pradesh.
India is thus violating 2 UN warrants – no nuclear, no coal – no deal.
But their most serious crime is working with Russia and China, and implicitly Trump, against the British Empire’s divide and conquer Mackinder geopolitics.
Looks like Ms. Robinson indeed serves the Crown, like Sir Henry Kissinger and Dr. John Schellnhuber CBE.
A CBE in the offing?
Mary Robinson is Irish, as in Republic of Ireland.
No kidding, who would have thought.
A few citizens of the Republic do receive awards from the UK Honours system, but they apparently require government permission (the Irish Republic not having any honours system at all). I guess if it mattered a lot to the individual they could always accept it after taking out British citizenship, which is not difficult for the Irish (in fact I think they are all still given that right by law since partition).
Though permission is usually granted, Robinson’s position is still exceptional. I could not imagine that either side would think it politically sensible.
Funny thing about that time frame – the deadline for world destruction is ALWAYS 11 years away. I think it’s been 11 years away my entire life. Oh wait, I think for a while it was only 7 or 8 years away.
It’s the End of the World, as we Know It, and I Feel Fine.
This was written in 1972…
Pushing through the market square, so many mothers sighing
News had just come over, we had five years left to cry in
News guy wept and told us, earth was really dying
Cried so much his face was wet, then I knew he was not lying
I heard telephones, opera house, favorite melodies
I saw boys, toys electric irons and T.V.’s
My brain hurt like a warehouse, it had no room to spare
I had to cram so many things to store everything in there
And all the fat-skinny people, and all the tall-short people
And all the nobody people, and all the somebody people
I never thought I’d need so many people
A girl my age went off her head, hit some tiny children
If the black hadn’t a-pulled her off, I think she would have killed them
A soldier with a broken arm, fixed his stare to the wheels of a Cadillac
A cop knelt and kissed the feet of a priest, and a queer threw up at the sight of that
I think I saw you in an ice-cream parlor, drinking milk shakes cold and long
Smiling and waving and looking so fine, don’t think
You knew you were in this song
And it was cold and it rained so I felt like an actor
And I thought of Ma and I wanted to get back there
Your face, your race, the way that you talk
I kiss you, you’re beautiful, I want you to walk
We’ve got five years, stuck on my eyes
We’ve got five years, what a surprise
We’ve got five years, my brain hurts a lot
We’ve got five years, that’s all we’ve got
Bowie
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh.
Another lovely bit of music from the Thin White Duke.
Auto
Don’t worry, Tom. If we don’t make it in 12 years, they’ll give us another 12 years.
This is exactly like my doctor. He once gave me 6 months to live. I didn’t pay the bill so he gave me another 6 months.
What was that song from the 60’s: ‘We are on the eve of destruction’
Here you go Greg.
I remember D.J. playing it the night I heard that the Berlin wall fell
michael
Tom Abbott:
Females, … aka Mary Robinson, are genetically pre-programmed to make “emotional” decisions, ….. not logical or rational ones.
A strong statement. Some here will disagree with you.
RACookPE1978 – October 13, 2018 at 9:35 am
To wit, my “strong” statement:
“Females, … are genetically pre-programmed to make “emotional” decisions, ….. not logical or rational ones.”
RACook, …… right you are, …. but their disagreement is more likely than not an “emotionally” driven decision …… and/or, for many, ….. (especially the male “girly-men” who are guilty of constant “emotional” decision making)….. it’s simply their verbal expressing of a miseducated or nurtured one.
It is a fact of evolution that the majority of all females (birth mothers) of the higher animal species are genetically programmed to be the primary “caregiver” of the offspring, to per se “guarantee” survival of the species, and to do so, the birth mother has to, more often than not, make emotional decisions to ensure the safety of her child(ren) even if it means putting her own life in danger.
There is no basis for saying that because a woman will put herself at risk to save her child, she is therefore more irrational than a man in making other decisions not related to her children. Most fathers will do the same thing for their children. Your argument is specious and wrong.
So sayith: Chris – October 14, 2018 at 11:54 am
Well now Chris, iffen you truly think my argument is “specious and wrong”, then maybe you will be so kind as to explain ”WHY” the mother (female) will “react” almost instantly, ….. without first “consciously” thinking about it, …… if she senses (hears, sees or feels) that her birthed child is in “danger” of being bullied, berated, molested, punished, hurt, maimed or killed?
Given the fact that said females are NOT nurtured (taught) to “react instantly” to the afore said senses, by their parents or guardians, nor by other family members, nor by their peers, nor by the public schools, etc., …… then Chris, please explain the “cause” of said “reaction”.
And iffen your explanation is correct, …. then you will be able to explain the “glass ceiling” quandary.
Cheers
I think humans of both genders react emotionally to things. Did you see those male Hillary supporters screaming at the sky in anguish after Hillary lost? 🙂
Stupidity is not limited to any one gender. But it might be limited to one political party, the Democrats/Liberals/Left. I think that’s the main source of fuzzy thinking in the Western world today.
Gender is a grammatical, not biological, term. Men and women are different sexes, not genders.
Uh, no. Sex is a process – the exchange of genetic material. Gender is an attribute – for humans, male, female and other (folks with something other than YY or XY chromosomes).
Please don’t continue this mistake. When I get to fill out a form and find the question for “sex”, I’m inclined to say yes, please, but the box on the form is too small.
“Uh, no. Sex is a process”
Uh no. Sex as a noun refers to biological attributes, male and female. Gender refers to behavior, masculine and feminine. Hence, there is no such thing as “gender re-assignment surgery”, but there is “sex re-assignment surgery”.
Jim,
You may want to check your chromosomes. XX is female, XY is male, YY is an impossibility in nature, but I wouldn’t put it past someone to try to figure out how to take an egg, strip out its genetic material and try to make a beast with 2 daddies sperm. As many of the genes on the Y chromosome are non-functional, the result would likely be something incapable of living.
We can make eggs from blood cells now, so there’s no reason two men can’t have kids, assuming you can find a surrogate, or an artificial womb.
That’s a good point, though, about the Y chromosome. They might have to make a bunch of eggs and see which were potentially viable.
Retired_Engineer_Jim October 13, 2018 at 12:08 pm
Sorry, but the English word “sex” is both a noun and a verb. It’s far more than a process.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sex
sex noun
\ˈseks \
Definition of sex (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : either of the two major forms of individuals that occur in many species and that are distinguished respectively as female or male especially on the basis of their reproductive organs and structures
2 : the sum of the structural, functional, and behavioral characteristics of organisms that are involved in reproduction marked by the union of gametes and that distinguish males and females
3a : sexually motivated phenomena or behavior
b : SEXUAL INTERCOURSE
4 : GENITALIA
sex verb
sexed; sexing; sexes
Definition of sex (Entry 2 of 2)
transitive verb
1 : to identify the sex of
sex newborn chicks
2a : to increase the sexual appeal of —often used with up
b : to arouse the sexual desires of
I wouldn’t have thought it necessary to point this out to a native English speaker.
“Gender” is a grammatical term.
Mark and Owen,
YY would not be viable, even if it could be created in the lab.
Only a fool would think stupidity is limited to one political affiliation.
I said “might”, Simon.
There’s a lot of stupidity on the Left. I haven’t seen much of any common sense coming from them. Anyone who thinks the Left should be guiding our lives is, imo, extremenly deluded, whether from stupidity or ignorance. And that pretty much takes in everyone who supports the Leftist agenda. I’m open to someone on the Left demonstrating a little intelligence when it comes to politics, but I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for them to show up.
The Left has nothing good to offer.. Anyone who would vote for one is a fool.
Right, so nothing good comes from the left? And everything the right does is clever? I have one word for you… Trump. Rest my case.
Right, so nothing good comes from the left? And everything the right does is clever? I have one word for you… Trump. Rest my case.
Tom Abbott,
“The Left has nothing good to offer.. Anyone who would vote for one is a fool.”
This suggests that not all those on the right are full of common sense, either.
There needs to be a balance of left and right. Going to either extreme would run into economic and social trouble. Ideally, there would also be conversation and compromise between left and right so that the country doesn’t experience the massive changes between administrations that prevent industry from being able to rely on continuity and plan for the long-term. The deep partisan divide is not healthy. It it attitudes on both sides, exacerbated by biased media, that are tearing the nation apart. Where will all this hatred and disrespect lead? We need more conservatives in academia, but if conservatives are constantly bad-mouthing it, where will they come from? Is it good in the long-term for conservative youth to not go to college?
Liberals and conservatives both need to stop being so ready to think of the other as foolish and “deplorable.” It’s just not true. Different doesn’t equal dumb.
Simon,
Being on the receiving end of the crumbs, I am beginning to accept that Trump has done a good job … so far.
If your a working man, and you don’t want to keep your crumbs, you are welcome to give ’em to me. If you are not a working man, well, you will have to wait for Pelosi, and those of the limited political affiliation, to take my crumbs and give them back to you again.
Mrs. Robinson’s moral hypocrisy is representative of the left. “Give me money and I will fix the problem. No it is not possible to fix the problem in any other manner … you need to give me money … stop being greedy. The problem won’t go away until we get more money (or power; or control; or another better/more lucrative problem)”.
I’m female, had four kids to prove it and totally agree with you!
Is the US “withholding money for clean energy research”? No evidence is presented, so this is probably just an excuse for marketing the UN, and for bashing The Donald.
Since the science is now settled why not spend the money instead on alternative energies, always useful for strategic purposes regardless.
Didn’t Trump’s administration recently give a big go-ahead to advanced nuclear power. Green don’t regard this as clean but advanced nuclear power will, potentially has a smaller CO2 footprint than either solar or wind power.
advanced nuclear power
Forward thinking with sustainable gains… if the positive outcomes can be realized… marketed before a change in political order or demographic distribution.
The link at https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/trump-signs-legislation-to-promote-advanced-nuclear-technology seems to have mysteriously disappeared.
Here is another version: https://www.energy.gov/articles/president-trump-signs-bill-boost-advanced-nuclear-america
Because when pushed, the green scammers have to admit it’s not about CO2, but about controlling the power, thus giving the power elites at UN all the power over humanity. This has been repeated by those same people pushing the agenda again and again, but the media keeps feeding us bs propaganda.
If she could conjure up a leprechaun, she could wish away the greenhouse effect…..
She could wish it into the cornfield like Billy Mummy in the classic Twilight Zone episode…
https://youtu.be/_C34g5mz1ZQ
It would be a win-win because corn likes CO2 and Gorebal Warming.
Corn is a C4 plant. Still need CO2, of course, but isn’t helped as much as a C3 plant by 400 v. 300 ppm.
Corn yield has benefited from other factors more than air enriched in CO2. Wheat yield has gained less than corn, despite its being a C3 plant:
Corn production has risen over time, as improved technology (seed varieties, fertilizers, pesticides and machinery) and production practices (reduced tillage, irrigation, crop rotations and pest management systems) led to higher yields. Corn tends to be irrigated more than wheat.
amaizing
John,
Perhaps you are familiar with some field experiments where they found by noon many fields shut down due to lack of CO2. If there is no wind, the corn uses all available CO2 in the surrounding air mass and has to wait for a breeze to restart photosynthesis. As a C4 photosynthesizer, it may not directly benefit from 400 v 300, but I’d bet that at 400 the shut down of photosynthesis happens later in the day then at 300. Longer photosynthesis equals more sugar produced equals more starch stored in the kernels. Luckily in most corn producing areas, prolonged lack of wind is usually not a problem.
Corn has been domesticated for so long that apparently most mainstream varieties have genetically “forgotten” how to open their ears by themselves, and can no longer survive in the absence of human cultivation.
There should be a worldwide critical review and full disclosure of the many thousands of interlocking alleged “foundations” and other tax dodges run by politicians and other insiders.
The light of day would likely be to them as sunlight to a Vampire.
She is another useless political has-been who is cashing in on the climate change scam.
“Money Talks & Bull—- Walks!” – Danny De Vito Trying to legislate the climate is like throwing every bit of money at it. It does NOTHING! It’s a waste of time, money & effort.
For Ms Robinson — a repost (apologies)
Hurrreeeyy. . . hurrreeeyy. . . hurrreeeyy folks! Step right up to the climate midway! See millions, billions, trillions traded for pigs, pokes, and lies . . . starving polar bears straight from the sands of a sinking arctic . . . snarling snow leopards swept away by melting glaciers . . . gasping Gurkhas in search of water. . . coastal residents on stilts . . . climate grifters juggling semi-intelligent humans . . . grim reapers galloping the streets . . . massive throngs wandering aimlessly with spoon and bowl in search of gruel and something to buy it with . . . You there in the back! Why are you wearing that parka?! Hurrreeeeyy . . . hurrreeeyy folks! . . . see Guinness records for limos and Lear jets parked at annual climate conferences . . . hear tragic tales of total destruction from Oscar Al and his Nobel pals . . . You there on the right! Can you spare us a billion to help save the planet? That’s it! Step right up and empty your pockets on stage . . . our global banking brethren will assist you . . . hurrrreeeyy. . . hurrrreeeeyy. . . hurrrreeeyy! Alternate energy is on . . . the . . . way! Please . . . please be patient! . . . a few billion more is all we need . . . the sun’s gonna shine . . . the wind’s gonna blow . . .
The winning, it just keeps happening! Now to defund UN entirely and strip diplomatic immunity from all UN personnel in US. In parking tickets alone we could fund NASA for a decade in short order. Keep swingin’ that magic wand, Mr President, it is working.
That is one thing all Americans should agree on. Get The UN out of the US. They could go to NOKO. They could get all the rubber stamped propaganda handed to them. I understand that it is their preferred way of government. They keep trying to push it on to the rest of the world.
David,
Thanks for the information on tracking.
I remember the Obama tried everything in its power to stop tracking, including regulations.
Some elite blue states have prohibited cracking and pipelines so New England has to buy natural gas from Russia.
Cheap natural gas has contributed to an economic boom in the US chemical Industry building new plants and helping our economy and providing jobs ( myself included).
[Fracking, correct? .mod]
The evidence doesn’t matter. Perception matters. Thus the progression from Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming to Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change to simply Global Warming, or, best of all, the plausible deniability of Climate Change, and the emotionally appealing “shared responsibility”, or, more correctly, delegated responsibility. This will be a fait accomplis with districts gerrymandered through immigration reform including refugee rises and mass emigration and sustainable diversity (i.e. color divisions/judgments).
Use some of the money for required curriculum in ethics for climate and environment research students. They need it.
Forget about all the global warming nonsense, my window plant tells me it’s going to be an early and very cold winter in England; out it goes if it gets it wrong.
The author states:
“while the Trump administration withholds leadership”
Not the way I see it, he’s being a LEADER. A REAL leader. He’s not following the pack like the rest for the lemmings in the UN, he’s looking at all of the evidence and making policy decisions that is in the best interest of his constituents. Just because he’s withholding money from the cry babies of the world doesn’t mean he’s not a leader. This makes me liken them to children who don’t get their allowance, they might as well call him a ‘poopy-head’, it’ll have the same effect.
You’re discrediting lemmings. That was just a Disney trick.
Now that Trump dumped (sorry parted with) UN US Ambassador Nikki Haley and the post is open maybe some hear the way the wind is blowing? Samantha Power, Haley’s predecessor, also Irish-American, from the same mold advocated the attack on Libya even when calling Hillary a monster.
Drain the swamp.
Nikki Haley was a fantastic repesentative for the United States at the UN. I was very impressed with her. She sees the world situation clearly, which is a rare trait in Washington DC. Fortunately, President Trump also sees the situation clearly, which is why he and Nikki see eye to eye.
As for Obama’s ambassador to the UN, Samantha Power, I expect to see her in front of Congress testifying in the near future, and possibly in criminal court. Power is reported to have “unmasked” dozens of people. Which means they can spy on those who are unmasked. And I would bet a dollar to a donut that the people she unmasked were close to one hundred percent Trump and his Republican supporters, and any other political opposition that might have popped up.
Of course Power did not initiate these unmaskings, she was just carrying out orders from higher up.
Yes, if the Republicans hold the House, then we may have all sorts of revelations about the corruption and criminality that took place in the Obama administration, including the attempted rigging of the 2016 presidential election, in conjunction with Hillary Clinton and her Russian Dirty Dossier, and the subsequent attempts to undermine Trump’s ability to govern with investigations into “Russian Collusion” fueled by Hillay’s Dirty Dossier.
Lots of criminal wrongdoing. Lots of sedition going on.
The Elephant in the Room: Barack Obama
I don’t believe Barack is smart enough to be an elephant. He was a nobody who came from nothing.
He’s been led by handlers, there’s no other explanation for how he got such a huge funding and media mobilization for his presidential candidacy. The man was so dead inside, he couldn’t talk to children at a school without two teleprompters telling him what to say.
“He was a nobody who came from nothing.”
Isn’t that the American dream? Surely you are not saying his views are worthless because he didn’t come from a rich entitled family like Trump?
No, Obama’s views are worthless because he had 8 years to turn his ideas into actions to get results – and all we got was, he made everything worse!
“No, Obama’s views are worthless because he had 8 years to turn his ideas into actions to get results – and all we got was, he made everything worse!”
Complete and utter drivel. Folks say how much better the economy is under Trump than Obama. If you look at BLS data for the first 20 months of Trump’s administration, total jobs created is 3.8M. The total created under Obama during his last 20 months is 3.9M.
1) What was Obama default position on fossil fuel? On fracking?
2) What was the driver of industrial job creation?
The give away with Haley is Bannon’s regret. Haley was carrying on the British geopolitical attach on Russia, which Trump campaigned against. Add in the MI6 Steele dirty dossier, and Rosentein’s objection to the declassification and the entire cold-coup unravels, with Britain exposed as the plotter against Trump. Haley’s disgusting “diplomacy” baloney was the same as Power’s.
President Trump said he will declassify – he must do it even if Britain is thoroughly discredited. The timing is not coincidence.
that we have about 11 years to make really significant change
Unless you inhabit broken climate models, the best thing to do, if you live in the real world, may be to do nothing.
Do nothing is not an option. The perception forced by the academic and press industry is sustainable. There need to be solutions proposed and implemented to address clean environments, economic development, civil stability, and human welfare. In particular, with the progress of immigration reform, there is a near-term requirement to preemptively mold demographic distributions before political change.
I hope you have enough money to make a meaningful contribution to solving these imaginary problems. If not, shut up!
Get real
Doing nothing is very much an option
The evidence for the stupid actions proposed by the ippc is very flawed
Doing nothing until we see better evidence is very rational
n.n.
Any room in that list for “Personal Freedom” ??? For “Religious Freedom”?
How many people do you propose (forcibly) moving to the Gulags and Concentration Camps (er, “re-education communities”) to “mold demographic distributions” ?
Guys I think n.n is making a joke. “The perception forced by the academic and press industry is sustainable.” It is nothing but regurgitated buzz works.
Perception sustainable?? blankety blank nonsense.
michael
“Withholding” is a term of entitlement.
Witholding? That’s the view of the street beggar, who thinks he is entitled to your money. No such thing as attempting to justify it with a supplicant’s story of hardship backed by evidence. Trump is merely agreeing with those whose pockets would be picked by pleading beggars who will do nothing to improve their own situation, but prefer to endlessly continue the lies.
Sounds like they’ve set the bar really low for Katowice. Good plan. That way, when they manage to crawl over it, after much wrangling, screaming, crying, and hand-wringing, they can shout “success!” through their tears.
We must appreciate that they have managed to establish political congruence or equivalence between deduction and inference, facts and emotions, near-frame and conflated frame of reference. None more so than Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming… Global Warming… Climate Change as a first-order forcing of second and third-world conditions in many politically unstable, economically stunted, and diversity (i..e. color judgments) afflicted second and third-world nations. And, of course, a little redistributive change to seal the deal.
Leftists are so comical and clueless…
Leftists don’t seem to realize wasting $122 TRILLION the IPCC’s now proposes is necessary to avoid their new and improved bogus Global Warming prophesies would impoverish billions of people and assure 3rd World economies continue to flounder…
Leftist lack even a basic understanding of economics and don’t understand all the new technologies, new products, new industries, jobs, capital investments, medical advances, scientific breakthroughs, new companies, etc., that will never be possible if such an insane amount of money is taken out of the private sector and wasted by feckless Leftist political hacks for no reason whatsoever….
Once this stupid CAGW scam is exposed as the the biggest and most expensive Leftist hoax in human history, and people realize their government leaders wasted $trillions of their hard earned money for nothing, the blowback against the Left will be astounding.
Thus immigration reform (e.g. diversity, refugee crises, mass emigration) to force a common cause and marginalize native dissent.
n.n. — “Leftists don’t seem to realize wasting $122 TRILLION the IPCC’s now proposes is necessary to avoid their new and improved bogus Global Warming prophesies would impoverish billions of people and assure 3rd World economies continue to flounder…”
The Soviet Union, Maoist China, Castro’s Cuba and Pol Pot’s Cambodia did not place a high priority on getting people out of poverty.
SAMURAI
n.n ,, I ask my wife to read those comments, (English major) her input is a non English speaker or possibly a “bot”.
michael
“asked”
I want the edit function back
But the money, taken from the private sector, will be re-injected (after appropriate administrative costs are charged) back into their preferred private sector firms.
Illustrates the age-old problem of people who don’t know what they’re talking about running things.
It has now become clear that reducing emissions is not a sufficient and effective method, as emissions continue to grow, Trump is right. That is why we will have to brutally increase fission, fusion and LENR solutions. In addition to these, an effective solution must be found for the widespread use of anticonception and geoengineering.
Actually, and fortunately for us, we don’t have to do anything about CO2. It is entirely beneficial, much as the Climate Numpties want us to believe otherwise.
Have any of these climate predictions come true?
Just one?
Has Al Gore been correct on any of his predictions?
Paul Ehrlich?
Yet people still listen to them. Or perhaps they don’t and the media outlets just crank it out.
They say 11 years. Why not 10 years and 11 months? 9 years and 3 months? In school, I had to show my work. Where’s their work, calculations, assumptions, etc?
Could I, on behalf of the minority sane segment of the Irish population, apologise for this ‘ladys’ comments.
We have a leprechaun for a President at the moment.
Michael O’Higgins who is an extreme left wing type is likely to get re-elected.
We have a prime minister who is half Indian (the Asian branch) and is fully queer.
We have another ex president Mary McAlees who is even more disillusional than Mary Robinson.
Ireland was once renowned as the island of saints and scholars from which an estimated 40% of the free worlds population can claim inheritance from.
Sadly it can now be described as the island of Soros dollars, as his largess has legalised so called marriage
between same sex persons, vast sums to global warming zealots, the importation of an unending stream of members of the ‘religion of peace’ and most recently abortion on demand.
So basically anyone who is old enough to remember what old Ireland was once like are in for a shock if they are unwise enough to go ancestor hunting.
I think the headline is wrong. She wants her kleptocrat payoff money too.
I think there should be no money made available for climate research given how out of touch it is with reality. Let’s level the playing field.
the Trump administration withholds leadership and money from the global effort for clean energy – “That’s where it hurts”
The USA is the world’s biggest debtor nation. China is the world’s biggest economy. Why doesn’t Europe provide leadership, and money, if they think this is so important.
Has the UN ever had even 1 program that was a success? Maybe the Cypress peace between Turkey and Greece. I can’t think of any others.
The Korean war kept South Korea free from Communism. The United States (and, of course the South Koreans) did the large majority of the fighting, but other countries did provide significant help in that and sacrificed some of their best.
Of course, it took the Soviet Union walking out of the proceedings so they couldn’t vote against it.
No, that is yet another unending “war” courtesy of the UN. Look at the population distribution on Cyprus. Does that look like a success for the UN? Perhaps it is! This may actually have been their goal. Seems to have worked for UN in Korea.
‘They have now moved to trillions being divested.’
Wow, the divestors will have a serious hangover once they realise that they have been told porkies. And then they will want to recoup all their losses that entailed. They may knock on the lady’s door.
“I totally divested from sex trade shares. (I’m not wood, obviously I pay for sex every single day.) Please admire me.” said nobody ever.
But people could. Makes at least as much sense.
A) Why would Ireland care? Is this nutcase, Mary Robinson, afraid of a warm day or three in ireland?
B) “a coalition”; really!?
I don’t think Bloomberg’s $4.5 million dollars will cover much of EU’s parasitic corrupt climate tyranny. Nor will looney bloomeyberg’s original promise of $15 million dollars cover much. Then there is the very demanding third world expecting trillions, that bloomeyberg’s paltry billions can cover.
C) Divestment from “fossil fuels“!? Trillions divested from fossil fuels!?
Apparently, Mary Robinson has been drinking McKibben kooll-aid.
I doubt there are trillions of dollars, that is not dependent upon fossil fuel, available. Playing shell games pretending certain funds are not dependent upon fossil fuels to be viable is all delusion.
* Agriculture and food companies? Depend upon fossil fuels.
* Mining, refining, forming, even recycling!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Energy production!? Depends upon fossil fuels, even renewables!
* Lumber and construction!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Mining, refining, forming, even recycling!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Infrastructure and transportation!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Technology and communications!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Financial!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Government!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
* Climate alarmism!? Depends upon fossil fuels.
The sanctimonious reactionary ignorance of the climate committed is annoying.
Where is the data showing that he’s withholding money from climate research?
For a long time, keeping warming below the dangerous 2 degrees level was the mantra. What’s changed to warrant reducing this to 1.5? I would suggest nothing. Nothing apart from the fact that the climate is not co-oprating with the alarmists and 2 degrees is a far off pipedream. Here’s not to you, Mrs Robinson.
What’s changed is that it has become obvious to even them, that the earth isn’t going to warm 2.0C.
“I’ve seen what 1 degree is doing in more vulnerable countries … villages are having to move, there’s slippage, there’s seawater incursion.”
Yes but the real question is, can she feel it when she’s flying? On her broomstick, of course.
Your title is in error, the actual quote is “So, while the Trump administration withholds leadership and money from the global effort for clean energy” there is nothing about climate research.
As others have pointed out, Trump is providing leadership, he is just not leading in the direction Mary Robinson wants.
He is also providing money for the best form of clean energy, nuclear.
How many people in the US trust the EPA about the alleged risk of radon in houses? Is there widespread radiophobia?
Why in the world does anyone believe anything the IPCC says. I doubt the politicians really do (most of them). It’s just another excuse to steal money and usurp power.
“Yet, despite the dire warnings of this week’s IPCC report, she is surprisingly upbeat.”
Guinness, mmmm.
Mary Robinson is a propagandist pure and simple. She and the IPCC apparently believe that the big lie works. It’s not that simple.
There is the danger that people will begin to discount what they are being told. An example is trying to scare teenagers away from drugs. link Once the teens learn that part of what they’re being told is exaggerated, they will disbelieve all of what they’re being told about drugs.
The population in general does not think CAGW is a problem. Doubling down on the alarmism, which is what Robinson et al are doing, isn’t going to work. It just annoys a lot of people.
Save your breath Mary.
Hey Mar, you are a hoodwinked leftists pig. I listen to NOTHING you have to say. Buh by now.
Shoot, when I read the headline, I thought Trump had instructed the NSF and DoE to no longer fund climate modeling. Now *that* would be a revolutionary and wonderful development. And so richly deserved.
After that, he should withdraw funding from universities with thoroughly politicized cultural studies departments. No public money for partisan politics.
The abuses would dry up in a heart-beat. And the caterwauling would be so, well, heart-warming.
It’s nice to see Mary Robinson in a position of self-righteous complaint. But that’s her standard attitude anyway. I look for the day Trump gives her something that causes her an acute upset.
Nothing stopping her from dipping into her own pocket to help make up the difference
Sweetness, people have been doing Climate Research since absolutely forever.
The results are in and exemplified by the people preferring to live beside the sea-side, in large cities and in sheltered valleys beside large rivers. Not in deserts. Not in icy wastelands. Not on mountain tops.
The People, by voting with their feet, their backsides and their bedchambers have given the proverbial 2-finger salute to the GHGE and thus, any further research with that as a starting point.
What hurts you dear, is the termination of a free-money supply.
In which case, really must ask what agenda you are on. As an experienced politician you really should be aware that giving away free money does nothing but increase the demand for same.
Also applies to free anything. The Victorians in England worked that one out.
OK chook, I’m ready when you are and you know the rules.
Face to face. A public place.
No hesitation. No repetition.
No auto-cue. No pre-written questions or answers from either of us.
No appeals to consensus or authority. No name-calling or personal slander
This is sooooooooo going to happen.
Oh, dear. What can I do ? Baby’s in black and I’m feeling blue…
Koo koo kachoo, Mrs. Robinson.
“Just a few hundred billion per year would put a smile back on Mary Robinson’s face.”
Hold on, let me check my penny jar…
I’m cheap. A billion a year would put quite a smile on my face.
Ah c’mon now…97% of that would be more correct.
Why do we need to keep funding a field of science when it’s “settled” and there is a scientific “consensus” on it?
If I had to guess, probably to better understand “attribution” so then lawyers can start winning “catastrophic climate change chaos” lawsuits against the US and our fossil fuel companies.
“You do care, don’t you?” No. we don’t! We have noticed that every 12-years the target of Armeggedon is automatically moved on 12 years, so we are never going to get there, no matter what we do about CO2.
This reminds me a little bit of my Urologist (Proctologist).
I said “hey Doc that feels like two fingers”.
He said “well I thought I would get a second opinion”.
Trump refused more US funding to the IPCC which does no research.
Remember Dr. Gobbles, “T ell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”.
At the moment it seems to be very one sided. Lots of properrganda from the Left side of politics and not all that much from the right.
So lets start with the basic fact on which the whole Climate scaa is based. The belief that the gas CO2 actiually retains heaat. Thus the more of the CO2, then it must follow that things will get hotter and hotter.
So what about governments telling the public by spending money on what is properganda about the other side. Keep telling people that CO2 is a good gas, its natures fertiliser and essential for all life on Earth. Tell people that Carbon, falsely labelled as a a Pollutant by the left, is in fact the number one chemical element in just about everything.
This message must be repeated again and again, and when a pollitician such as our Bill Shortrn of the ALP talks a about having a Carbonless society, laugh at him for saying such a crazy thing. Even the cavemen and women used fire.
But we must keep answering this nonsense, play the same game by using government properganda.
Convience the public that CO2 is a good gas, and the whole rotten strutcher of Climate change come Global wartming extreme weather with its industries of windmills , solar panelsd and mountains of published book will finally fall over. Its a giant sized “House of cards”.
Remembeer Dr. Gobbles convinced the German people right upto the very end of WW2, that somehow they could still win. That shows the reeal power of properganda.
MJE
The US federal government too deep in debt to be wasting money on stuff like this. The US federal government needs to pay its debts before it even considers such expenditures.
You shower of toxic baskets ”believe women” they don’t lie.
Good propganda does not need to cost all that much, far less than the cost of renewable energy is costing the economy. M<JE
Leftist payola isn’t “research” anymore then funding NPR is for “journalism”.
Climate is corruption for a central planning state.
Here in Europe we have something called Euratom, which is legally outside the EU but has the same members and same principles (bureaucracy, inefficiency, being proud of objective failure).
At some point Euratom was supposed to fund research in new nuclear technology: smaller reactors, hotter reactors… and also fusion (Tokamak), the huge distraction.
In fact Euratom is mostly a way to hurt nuclear fission, with the promotion of the radiophobia, isotopes-terrorism-phobia, uranium-terrorism-phobia… But terrorists just aren’t that interested in nuclear material. (OTOH, the risk of sabotage on a nuclear plant seems real: remove the lubrification of an essential device and the reactor must stop.)
HEU isn’t making a comeback anytime soon with that mindset!
Radioactive materials need specialized facilities and equipment to be handled and transported safely. Things you tend to not have just lying around a guerilla camp out in the rocky desert badlands.
HEU is extremely useful for people who are not trying to be able to kill other people. Iran has some HEU and a plausible peaceful use of HEU (whether their reserve of HEU is consistent with that use and whether they are telling the truth about their intent regarding HEU is another question).
Phasing out HEU may be seen as a way to be able to tell Iran that HEU isn’t extremely useful.
But it’s complete logic BS. Rockets are extremely useful and can be used to destroy Israel by a regime that doesn’t accept Israel existence. We aren’t going to get rid of rocket engine technology to “lead by example” and convince Iran to do the same.
So why are we moving to lower enrichment, again?
Higher enrichment has inherent safety properties: the “Tchernobyl catastrophe” (the accident in a nuclear power(*) plant that used to be called Lenin plant) occurred in a moderated reactor designed to optimize neutron efficiency, with a moderator that wasn’t wasting neutrons (unlike light water). I know the problem of “what if” games and alternative history, and of bogus “all else being equal” (**) narratives, but the moderator played a big role in the accident.
(*) the plant was generally classified as dual purpose, with the intent of making bomb material, but there is no evidence that was intended or used for that purpose and in the 80ties Soviet Union already had a lot of plutonium
(**) “all else” cannot be equal, “all else” isn’t even a well defined set, the real world isn’t a mathematical function of a number of primary factors where you can change one and not the others
After the “Tchernobyl catastrophe”, the safety upgrade of these reactors included the enrichment of uranium. THE event that traumatized people, esp. in Europe, and gave nuclear a really bad name convinced even soviet authorities to enrich uranium. Why isn’t enrichment seen as a good thing?
Typical bleedin heart socialist. Run off, stomping their feet when someone refuses to give them the goodies (Money). So she nicks off to the UN before finishing the job she was voted to do? What a wonderfully selfless person. Reminds me of Helen Clark, the New Zealand PM who, literally days after she lost her second election, nicked off to the UN.
We can’t go hurting peoples feelings can we how heartless do you think we are?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwKllFRKXzw
She doesn’t care about anything else apart from “feeling” the money flowing into her bank account.
James Bull
So, 11 Years to save the planet. That’s an unusual one. It more often seems to go in multiples of 5 once it is more than a very few. Perhaps it’s just a feeble attempt to say something original.
“… the world’s leading climate scientists warn that the planet has until 2030 to avert a global warming catastrophe…”
2030? Wait – I thought it was 2050? When did they shorten it? Man, I simply can NOT keep up with these changes any more!!!
We’re going to have snow some time this next week. I’m not giving up my gas-run furnace just because that silly woman can’t find a real job and wants me to pay for her existence. Someone please tell her to find something useful to do, like being a receptionist at a nail salon. I’m sure the tips are good.
Don’t worry, in 20 years time, they’ll have pushed it back to 2050 again. and 20 years later it’ll be pushed back to 2070 and so on. the apocalypse is always x years in the future, no matter how many years go by.
doom junkies have developed a tolerance to ‘alarming’
but scienticks are hard at work developing a more powerful phobia inducing ‘hyperalarming’
Aw Gee
They didn’t show an image of the “multi-coloured brooch”.
Winning!
“is riding high on the back of Brett Kavanaugh’s elevation to the US supreme court.”
Very strange remark!
Why even bring the courts into that? We were on the topic of climate and clean energy research.
The courts are in charge of research, now? Why would applying the texts as written be a problem for clean energy? You can’t do clean energy without twisting the laws?
Isn’t that what psychoanalysts call the … return of the repressed?
The courts are important because the actions the greens are demanding have tradionally been resisted at the ballot box (and thus they have trouble getting the laws for those actions passed through the legislature). Thus they turn to unelected beaurocrats and the courts to get their schemes in place. It has nothing to do with science or research, it never has.
How many predictions of doom do we have to see get recycled before the light finally turns on?
Ehrlich has been remarketing his falsified population bomb claims for about 50 years.
The old hack is still considered reputable.
Hansen, 30 years ago, started the climate apocalypse.
His predictions have utterly failed.
He is also now old and rich.
And thanks to his fear mongering claptrap, a worldwide industry of climate obsessed parasites are sucking billions a year out if the pockets of tax payers.
Both the population scam and climate scam have gotten away with recycling their predictions if doom with no loss of credibility in the public square.
Until that is corrected we will not have an honest discussion.
ikr? then we can finally move on to honest discussions about bigfoot.