Some major U.S. are on track to be part of a record cold April.
“Some cities in the east are experiencing temperatures a full 10 to 15 degrees F colder than normal, says meteorologist Jaclyn Whittal. Those cities include Buffalo, Chicago and Detroit.
Those in the northern tier of the U.S. either graciously accept winter with open arms or drag their feet the entire way. So, for those who would willingly trade in the snow for sand, it’s been a rough season that has been painfully etched into our memories after the ice storm that rolled through the Great Lakes just weeks ago.
For some communities, April won’t just be memorable… it will might just go down in history. How? Well there are so many fascinating statistics to swoon over that we dug up! While doing some number crunching for Detroit Metropolitan International Airport, it wasn’t an eye opener that April has been about 10 F below seasonal norms. The normal monthly average daytime high is 59.1 F, we only got 49.7 as an average. Another stat that won’t come as a surprise is the lack of warmth — we have yet to crack 70ºF more than once this April in Detroit, Chicago and Buffalo!
Taking the final forecast days of April into consideration, we’re currently seeing a slight warm up that could help the averages take a slight bump up. Of course we will have to wait until the end of the month to officially declare it as ‘the coldest April on record’ as some minor fluctuations in the forecast will occur.
The overall weather pattern that we can blame is the jet stream that keeps taking a ride well to the south ushering cold Canadian air to the U.S. In fact, it’s been cold enough that we saw ice pellets accumulating in the middle of the month for the Southern Great Lakes.
Full story and video:
The greenns will no doubt say that at last their measùres to combat global warming are working.
When will the reporters ask them the right qùestions ?
Maybe in another several years as this is only the first step down, imo.
No, M. J., the greens are watermelons, red inside and green outside. The reporters will never ask the wrong questions.
If it gets really cold they will just say “Oops we meant global COOLING all along, Climate Change, IT’S ALL OUR FAULT!”
They can show that CO2 “acts like a blanket” and what happens at the beach when you put up an awning or umbrella? Cooling! It all makes sense now.
No matter what happens it is just an excuse to shut down western civilization and go back to the middle ages but with them in charge. World government and the widespread collapse of “capitalism” puts them on top. Marxist economic theories start working again. Without cheap energy the slave labor economy goes back into full gear, and as Bob Dylan said: “The masters make the rules”. (It’s all Right Ma, I’m Only Bleeding” 1965)
I would suggest you actually go to an internet site where people that accept the science hang out and see if your mental picture of them is accurate. (Pssssttt…it’s not)
Also, I’ll give Anthony credit that he isn’t saying in this article that local low temps is a proof that AGW is false. Of course, he mostly just posts information on one side of the argument but that is pretty much human nature and can’t fault him too much on that. But for the audience reading him, it’s hardly surprising that some of you are taking this as proof that AGW is wrong or that “greens” will switch their argument.
It’s the type of poor reasoning that you would expect when viewing science through a political lens.
Be well.
Koop in VA – April 27, 2018 at 5:52 am
Koop, why didn’t you include a url link to your favorite internet site?
Was it because you don’t want anyone to know which “site” you are an avid believer/supported of?
Koop, what science?
Computer models are not and never will be science.
PS: Most of us do spend time at warmunist sites.
That’s how we know you guys so well.
Right on all counts.
that’s right Koop. toss in a lame, antagonistic comment and run away! I think we have your types nailed.
“It’s the type of poor reasoning that you would expect when viewing science through a political lens.”
Indeed. As we all know, if the temperature hits a record high, it’s PROOF of Global Warming, while if the temperature sets a record low, it’s just weather.
Specious, false strawmen, ad hominems, all very typical of those warmists, whose sites you revere.
Anthony, posts articles across a very wide swath of opinion; in spite of your fallacious ad hominem claim.
Feel free to ask Anthony for permission to post an article.
Hey Koop, did you actually take science in school?
Do you actually remember the scientific method?
Here’s a clue, if the data refutes the theory then the theory is wrong. The scientific method doesnt include throwing out the data that disagrees with the theory. Climate change alarmists have been caught red handed doing that three times in the last 5 years. Most recent manipulator (last month), NOAA.
I work in an industry that includes scientists and have friends who ARE scientists and all of them disagree that this is “science”.
So please stop with the “established” science cantrip because it is a lie.
ATheoK, just a few minutes ago an article was posted from a guy who is proclaiming that increased CO2 means the inevitable end of almost all life on earth.
Well, it’s not surprising the responses I got but here goes, yet again.
I call myself “conservative” but I have to put it in quotation marks now because I’m well outside what passes for modern conservatism. Raised in a military family in the 1970’s. First political memories were of Reagan getting elected, getting shot and giving my dad a raise after 3 years of no raises. Turned 18 in 1989 and voted Bush, Dole, Bush, Bush. I canvassed for my local Republican in 1994 (he won) and partied like hell when “we” took the House that year. And yes I remember when conservatives accepted the science and were trying to come up with a conservative (i.e. free market) based solution to the issue. I even remember that Newt cut a commercial with Pelosi on the issue.
There are several key areas where I think conservatism has gone astray and/or I have broken away from conservatives. That is why I currently cannot support the modern day GOP because I remain fiscally conservative but socially libertarian.
So back on topic. On climate change I see a lot of conservatives adopt the stance that the commenter I responded to was going on about. AGW is just communists trying to take over the world. Or as other’s posit, that the science is made up or bogus. As a person that thinks that the government messes up a lot of what they touch and thinks that their role should be minimized and almost all goods and services should be in private hands (once again, the free market) I took a look at the evidence (most notably the Climategate “scandals”) and I found the evidence pretty lacking.
And, to be sure, I shouldn’t necessarily be swayed by us lay people discussing this topic but the arguments that I hear on the conservative side are often very poor, IMO. For example, we could look at the comments here for the last 6 months and we would come across tons of them essentially stating that “the experts said that the arctic sea ice would be melted by now”. It’s just an extremely bogus argument and is illustrative of the problem. Yes, a few scientists (particularly out of the NPGS) said that it may melt out (meaning less than 1M km cubed of ice volume) by now. A few others had similar predictions. But the majority/consensus had the date towards the end of this century. And we are actually running ahead of the pace predicted by the consensus. And yet, that same argument is made over and over again here. And yet the readership here doesn’t correct the constant misstatements. Anyway, running long so I’ll stop. Apologize for spelling or grammar errors, in a hurry.
Koop, regardless of what you may claim about your personal politics, the fact remains that almost all of the major names behind the CAGW sc@m are left to far, far left.
Koop is outta the loop or just doesn’t know how to read, but more likely, as with all religionists, refuse to accept reality when it smacks them about the face: they become more entrenched in their original belief. Your priests are lying to you bud, just like every other major religion. And let’s be clear: this is a religion.
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RE Koop:
** A few others had similar predictions. But the majority/consensus had the date towards the end of this century. And we are actually running ahead of the pace predicted by the consensus. And yet, that same argument is made over and over again here. And yet the readership here doesn’t correct the constant misstatements**
You do not have anything correct. The statements about ice disappearing keep changing – there is NO consensus for the end of the century. Those fear mongering statements were in the news in the 1920’s – nothing new. So were the glaciers melting – check NYT. It’s been posted by Heller many times.
We are not “running ahead of the pace predicted by the consensus. Note that the Arctic ice is in a 60-70 year cycle. We have bottomed out the last 10 years. If you look carefully you will see it is NOT decreasing.
If you do sone research you will find that the 1990 IPCC report included the early 1970’s in which there was less ice than the peak in 1979 which the 1995 Report CONVENIENTLY starts with.
See: https://realclimatescience.com/government-arctic-sea-ice-fraud/
It’s also unfortunate for the Democrats that the Left position has been adopted by Ultra Liberal Anarchists who will block the freeways at the first sign of something going differently than they desire, who hide behind Black Bandana Masks and call any form of Conservative Speech “Hate Speech” and so will Riot at the drop of a pin.
Another unfortunate event, and one which, like the anarchists, is causing a massive Polarity in Politics, is the Republican Party’s attraction to Ultra Conservative White Racists. Both once great parties have been usurped by the Ultra Left and Ultra Right ideals.
“Science” – well. some, but it does not follow the scientific method… This “settled science” is political as it does not look at both sides to the issues: – Talks about the supply of CO2 (Tax the USA and send the money to the world’s largest emitter – China) – but ZERO talk about the affects on agriculture of CO2 (every greenhouse operator knows 4x the CO2 increases crop yields) – Talks about supply of CO2 (Stop burning fossil fuel) but ZERO talk about the demand for CO2 – plant more trees and stop cutting the rain forest…. BUT, here is the biggest problem – the Earth can only sustain about 2B people without burning fossil fuels (John Deere can’t run on batteries) – so, what do we do with the 6B dead bodies ?
Koop, your life story is interesting, but it isn’t a link. Where do you get your information?
Anyone can “accept the science” of AGW. Heck, even guys like Bill Nye, who posted a video about CO2 that is demonstrably off the mark, accept AGW. But a consensus of believers is not science.
Koop, those that are now predicting the end of the century, were first predicting that it should already have happened.
When the date for the apocalypse came and went, they adjusted the date but kept singing the same tune.
Bryan, please provide some evidence that Republicans are attracted to conservative racists?
Every single racist that I know is left wing and if not a Democrat, then a Green.
Hey Gerald,
Here’s some of what the IPCC had to say about arctic sea ice: https://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg2/index.php?idp=605
Specifically they say:
“In a more recent study, there is good agreement between Arctic sea-ice trends and those simulated by control and transient integrations from the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL) and the Hadley Centre (see Figure 16-6). Although the Hadley Centre climate model underestimates sea-ice extent and thickness, the trends of the two models are similar. Both models predict continued decreases in sea-ice thickness and extent (Vinnikov et al., 1999), so that by 2050, sea-ice extent is reduced to about 80% of area it covered at the mid-20th century.”
Since the IPCC is a collection of scientific (and other) input across the globe and opinions differ they tend to state the consensus opinion. Are we agreed on that point at least? When this report was issued the consensus was that 80% would still be there in 2050 but that it would be going further down from there.
And yes, from my understanding of JAXA, UNI-Bremen, NSIDC, it seems we are indeed tracking ahead of that rate.
Don’t know if you had read this portion of the IPCC before but I’m interested in hearing your take on it now. Especially in regards to the consensus idea on arctic sea ice and how we are tracking compared to the figure stated in that specific IPCC report.
Would also like to hear your thoughts about whether the “experts said the arctic would be ice free by now” should still be used as a valid argument on this site and others. To me personally it is like saying that because one Cleveland newspaper picked the Browns to make the playoffs last year that all football experts thought they were going to win the Super Bowl. Since it didn’t come true that all football experts are wrong and shouldn’t be listened to.
https://asean.usmission.gov/secretary-of-state-john-kerry-remarks-on-climate-change
Hey Bob,
Since AGW posits that the poles will experience the warm up faster than the rest of the earth a lot of my AGW monitoring was originally done here because Anthony has a lot of data based graphics on sea ice presented here. I looked around a bit more and found Neven’s blog. The politics is usually kept to a minimum there and the earnestness in trying to understand the complexity of the system is interesting from a layman’s point of view. They also have the links to even more data than WUWT has and so that is a plus.
http://neven1.typepad.com/blog/2016/05/egu2016-my-impressions.html
Hey MarkW,
I think we should explore this comment of yours as I think it is important and if you are a truth seeker, I would assume that you would want to be right on this issue.
Here’s your quote:
Koop, those that are now predicting the end of the century, were first predicting that it should already have happened.
When the date for the apocalypse came and went, they adjusted the date but kept singing the same tune.
I do understand that that comment is expressed a lot around here but is it accurate and would you care to research it with me?
From my understanding, a lot of people that believe that rely on Maslowski’s prediction. He is a scientist at the Naval Postgraduate School and his modeling led him to state that ice could go below a million cubic kms (which he called ice free) far sooner than anyone else was predicting.
Here’s a clip from a Guardian piece:
An ongoing US Department of Energy-backed research project led by a US Navy scientist predicts that the Arctic could lose its summer sea ice cover as early as 2016 – 84 years ahead of conventional model projections.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/dec/09/us-navy-arctic-sea-ice-2016-melt
Now, I’m pretty sure that Maslowski made a similar prediction even earlier and that will likely be part of your research/evidence that you will produce. But here we have a Guardian article that says that Maslowski’s prediction called for an “ice free” arctic 84 years earlier than the conventional model and I linked to an IPCC report from 2001 that said that by 2050 80 percent of the arctic ice would still be there.
So I’ve given you two sources that show that the “warmists” in general have had most of their models point to a late 21st century melt out. Can you show me why you think that most arctic ice scientists were claiming that it would be melted out by now and they keep changing their prediction? Yes, Maslowski was wrong. But pointing out that the most extreme prediction was wrong does not imply that the “conventional model” or the IPCC consensus is wrong. They may eventually be proven wrong but citing a specific failed prediction to indict the generally accepted prediction/model doesn’t seem to be the right way to analyze this situation to me.
Agree with Bruce regarding the real agenda of leftists/globalists desire to eliminate capitalism and replace it with socialism. For factual evidence, Koop, you should read Naomi Klein (https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/20/cdc-provides-more-evidence-that-plenty-o ) and Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the UN’s Framework Convention on Climate (www.globalclimatescam.com/opinion/u-n-official-reveals-real-reason-behind-global-warming-scare/ ). Both admit that the primary purpose of the UN’s advocacy of climate change science is to end capitalism, whether the science is true or not. And, the vast majority of the “science” consists of correlation studies and computer simulations, neither of which are hallmarks of proof of cause and effect, in this case that human-produced CO2 is causing global climate change. Finally, the draconian measure recommended by the UN and other alarmists would have very little effect, even if the theory is correct. But such measures would have drastic negative consequences for hundreds of millions of humans and would divert resources/capital away from more pressing and real problems such as poverty, disease, lack of clean water, etc. And eliminating capitalism would eliminate the best method of improving the lives of billions by lifting them out of poverty. Even Bono has admitted this (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/poll/2013/aug/13/aid-bono).
Koop, I see that you are still having reading comprehension problems.
I never disagreed with you regarding what the alarmists are saying NOW.
THe issue is what they were saying over the last few years and decades.
Koop in VA – April 27, 2018 at at 12:17 pm
Koop, it is quite obvious to me that you don’t realize how idiotically stupid the above stated “claim” is.
The Equatorial Zone is already as warm as it is going to get during this interglacial period so any warming up anywhere, seasonal or otherwise, will be faster than any tropical non-warming.
Sorry I’m a day late, but it let Koop air it out. Former Reagan small gov conservative, huh? The good GOP agreed that science was settled? That sounds like the nineties, when CAGW was “confirmed” by Dr. Mann. So you were not driven to skepticism on that “science is settled” by the mere fact that it was Al Gore preaching it? Never took another look at that claim (you’ll say you are still looking, but nobody can watch this, read an actual IPCC report with uncertainty clearly stated, and still think it’s not open to dispute), instead it was people questioning the science that drove you away from the GOP? And the clincher for you is supposed (by you) alt-right kooks who point only to the falsified claims of a few climate prophets instead of the broader CliSci picture? So if I may summarize, you are put off by the claims of commenters on a blog (not falsified BTW) but not by falsified claims of “ice gone” by the TOP people in CliSci. You have also seen these top CliSci folks who’s claims have been falsified (J. Hansen said Manhattan flooded by now; and as for M. Mann, look up Steve Mosher) become open activists at protests and marches rather than defend their falsified claims. Wondering, we know what drove you (a small gov’t guy) to turn from the right (like Kristi, you seem to want to tell us all about yourself), what would raise your skepticism about CAGW?
The “reporters” are the greens…..
You got that right!
You got that right!
You got that right!
They will never say that the measures taken were enough even if global temps dropped by 15F for a year straight, because that would end the money trail
The measures being advocated for stopping Climate Change are pretty much the measures that were being advocated to stop Global Warming. If you have a long memory, they are the same as the measures advocated to stop the Coming Ice Age some while ago.
Most of those people (for a loose definition of “those”) aren’t really talking about the climate. They’re all about the Measures they will Impose. Capital letters on “impose”.
The climate on earth is controlled by the SON, not few extra molecules of CO2. Anyone thinking otherwise, is a brainwashed democrat.
“When will the reporters ask them the right questions?”
15 minutes after never. And that’s “reporters.”
You can ask them anything you want, but the answer will always be “don’t you know global warming causes cold temperatures.”
TALK ABOUT CHEMTRAILS or else be MORONS!
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There is your proof of the dangers of global warming.
Mother Nature is an uncooperative sod .
“On this day in 1961, Dwight D. Eisenhower ends his presidential term by warning the nation about the increasing power of the military-industrial complex.”
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/eisenhower-warns-of-military-industrial-complex
American and Canadian scientists believe that soviet experiments in weather control may be to blame for this winters bitter cold weather.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81M00980R002000090182-0.pdf
“Between 1980±1997 a large number of ionospheric
modi®cation experiments have been performed using
the HF heating facility located at Ramfjùrdmoen near
Tromsù, Norway (Rietveld et al., 1993; Stubbe, 1996).
Many eorts have been made to study experimentally
and theoretically the ionospheric modi®cation produced
by powerful HF radio waves.”
N. F. Blagoveshchenskaya, V. A. Kornienko, A. V. Petlenko, A. Brekke, M. T. Rietveld. Geophysical
phenomena during an ionospheric modification experiment at Tromsø, Norway. Annales Geophysicae,
European Geosciences Union, 1998, 16 (10), pp.1212-1225.
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/file/index/docid/316449/filename/angeo-16-1212-1998.pdf
The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction:
“Owning the Weather” for Military Use
by Michel Chossudovsky
https://archives.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html
“The Sura Ionospheric Heating Facility, located near the small town of Vasilsursk about 100 km eastward from Nizhniy Novgorod in Russia, is a laboratory for ionosphere research [1]. Sura is capable of radiating about 190 MW, effective radiated power (ERP) on short waves[citation needed]. This facility is operated by the radiophysical research institute NIRFI in Nizhny Novgorod[citation needed]. The Sura facility was commissioned in 1981[citation needed]. Using this facility, Russian researchers studied the behaviour of the ionosphere and the effect of generation of low-frequency emission on modulation of ionosphere current. In the beginning, the Soviet Defense Department mostly footed the bill. The American HAARP ionospheric heater, whose operation began in 1993, is similar to the Sura facility.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sura_Ionospheric_Heating_Facility
Looks like Trump has solved them global warming problem!
Global warming is a scam to extract money from the richer countries and give it to poorer country. It has nothing y\to do with the real climate findings.
Margie
Global warming is a scam to extract money from many poor people in richer countries and give it to a few rich people in poorer countries. It has nothing to do with the real climate findings.
RA, and remarkably, the many poor people, whose indifference to the policies imposed on them by their political leaders enables the continuation of the AGW scam, have no idea that they are paying for all of this with the loss of opportunities to better themselves and their children. And the financial support that is provided to the wealthier classes in poor countries just stabilizes the abusive social systems that condemn their poor to poverty and violence.
[The mods assume you’re addressing your post to RA, rather than including him amongst those who “have no idea” as your punctuation would suggest. -mod]
More meridional, wavy jet stream tracks are the first indicator of a trend towards a cooler world because they increase global cloudiness.
They also pull warm air up into the arctic where it can more easily escape to space.
Very funny MarkW:
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“They (wavy jet stream tracks) also pull warm air up into the arctic where it (warm air) can more easily escape to space.”
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I regret to inform you that warm air does not escape into space.
C. Paul: Why do you regret it?
The heat that is .
In Human History, warm centuries have been the most prosperous. But we are obviously heading into an era of COLD. Unfortunately, there just isn’t enough coal, gas, or oil to fix the current cold spell. So we will just have to bundle up, and get ready to live in an icy world.
A lot won’t be living, unfortunately:
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/694368/flu-winter-death-cold-fatalities?utm_source=CCNet+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1b394a49be-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_04_09&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_fe4b2f45ef-1b394a49be-36432429
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That groundhog has some splainin’ to do.
I think that groundhog was right this year…:
http://time.com/5123837/groundhog-day-results-2018-2/
Nah, he was short by at least a month – six weeks from Feb. 2? More like ten weeks, at least here in Michigan!
I think Al Snore should get the Nobull…I mean the Nobel prize. and then maybe the UN for UN-naziing thu wurld….
Of course, the places named are all big cities, with large and effective Urban Heat Island effects. What about rural places such as farms? How late in the season can snow on the ground prevent sowing seed? How are all the flowering fruit trees doing?
Here in Mechanicsville, VA, 12 miles east-northeast of Richmond, we don’t have official local records; however, I’ve been keeping my own records, here at the house, since mid 2013. According to my records, the average temperature here is two degrees–more or less–lower than that at the Richmond airport (RIC). February 2018 was extremely warm in its latter half and ended up (here) about four degrees above average. March was cold! The average for the month was 7.8 degrees F below the LTA (long-term average, i.e., the most recent thirty-year span the weatherfolk use). Actually, March was colder than February by a few degrees–a rarity. So far, April is cold, too–about 5.6 degrees below the LTA–though a warming trend is coming and will likely flatten that average in the four days that remain in the month.
I grow daylilies–15,000 or so of them–and I pay close attention to bloom season and when various specific cultivars bloom. This year, the beginning of the bloom season was three weeks late. Usually certain extra-early-season flowers such as ELFIN, APRICOT, EARLIANNA, and species plants such as Hemerocallis middendorffii and H. minor, bloom here the first week in April, with ELFIN often winning the sweepstakes, the last two years on April 2. This year: April 23; so far ELFIN is the only plant to bloom. I think this may be the latest FFO (First Flower Open) date since my late wife and I moved here in July of 1993.
Purely anecdotal, and subject to the vagaries of individual record-keeping and big-box-store thermometers; and yet data, for what it’s worth.
Here in Colorado the season is behind I would estimate about the same amount of time.
I live at 6300 ft. and the scrub oak have just started sprouting buds; whereas they usually have small leaf clusters by now. Same with the deciduous trees they are late.
Solar minimum and the wandering of the poles is being argued by some scientists as the determining factors.
Depends which side of the Front Range, Patrick. Although Colorado is famous for whacky weather.
Our cabin west of the Springs has had days this year with the same temps, both high and low anomalies, as our Florida Panhandle place ( we get real seasons here, unlike the “real” Florida e.g. West Palm or Launderdale, Miami etc). Hard to fathom same temps for an 8,000 ft cabin as a home a half a mile from the Gulf and 65 ft MSL
Guess a lotta truth to “it’s only weather”.
Gums sends…
The poles aren’t wandering. The magnetic field is, but there is no evidence that this impacts climate.
MarkW, a reversal of the magnetic poles can affect the climate if it generates more volcanism than we are having now. The number of active volcanoes appears to be increasing, per volcano discovery’s map of them. Some that have been long dormant are showing signs of activity.
And yes, the “poles” do wander. If you are unaware that the Earth wobbles just slightly and that the angle of the axial tilt changes gradually over a period of about 26,000+/- years, you haven’t paid attention. The north pole moves one degree every 72 years. That’s not the magnetic north pole I’m referring to. It’s the physical north pole, the angle that determines how much sunlight each hemisphere gets during summer and winter seasons..
I’m at 6600′, west slope. We are about 4 weeks ahead of schedule, and a freeze will insure little food for the bears. They had a rough winter with no acorns last fall die to an early freeze. I’ve seen zero squirrels nor chipmonks this year, probably due to no acorns fro winter storage. Normally we freeze into June, and a 16° morning last week was a reminder of the same.
There is no evidence, or even a good theory, that changing magnetic fields can increase volcanism.
flipping geo- magnetic poles WILL CAUSE increased volcanic activity. The MOON’s gravitational effect stirs the molten mantle, which is iron-rich. The magnetic field lines of Earth, as the twist and go through a “flip” process will cause a change in the magma flow inside the convection layer of the Earth’s mantle. 2+2+4. We have BOTH 2’s in place. So, whether or NOT there is accepted scientific evidence at present that documents magnetic pole switch=increase volcanism…it’s going to happen! WATCH!
The earth does wobble, but that doesn’t change the axis of rotation, just the direction in which the axis of rotation points.
Sara, the North Pole doesn’t move relative to the planet, the place it points to in the heavens changes over time. While slow, I’m sure this does have an effect on the climate.
MarkW, you seem to have described precession. The angle of the axis does vary, and is regarded as a factor in the Milankovic cycles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles#Axial_tilt_(obliquity)
I am in Appomattox, VA, about 90 miles west of I-95 and Richmond. My daylilies are growing well but nary a bud to be found. The common iris is blooming some and my hybrids have been setting buds but some early bloomers were frost-bitten a few nights ago. The marigolds I put in some containers were all frozen that same night. March was just awful this year here in the western Piedmont, probably a bit colder than you too. We are very rural as well, it always freezes here if it is above freezing in the town or in Lynchburg, farther west.
The full story comes with the old “climate isn’t weather” canard, and a video to hammer that message home (I didn’t bother watching it). But climate is the aggregate of weather, not the aggregate of continuously adjusted thermometer records.
And as a matter of documented fact, since solar activity dropped in 2008, we have indeed seen an abundance of unusually cold, windy, icy weather, particularly in the northern hemisphere, with few heat waves to counterbalance the equation in favor of a warming world.
Hence, “Cold winters have been caused by global warming: new research” (Telegraph UK, Oct 2014)
Then as the cycle progressed to its peak–lo!–winters became a tad warmer.
Hence: “Climate change at work? Weather Service calls for third straight mild winter” (WaPo, Oct 2017)
So here we are the bottom of the cycle again, and, well, you know the story – all that ice and snow is “just weather“…even while it is a sure sign of “climate change.”
“Why a Warming Arctic May Be Causing Colder U.S. Winters” (NatGeo, Mar 2018)
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Some April” heat retention highlights” from GOES16 (East):
2018-03-02 – A hurricane-force Nor’Easter
2018-03-05 – The “Monster Nor’Easter” moves away from the U.S. East Coast
2018-03-07 – Here we go again! The second Nor’Easter in the last 7 days
2018-03-13 – Nor’easter Number 3 in the last two weeks
2017-03-15 – Noreaster dumping feet of snow on parts of the northeast
2017-03-16 – Wave clouds, snow and offshore cloud streets are all that’s left from the Pi Day Nor’Easter
2018-03-22 – The fourth Nor’easter this month
2018-03-23 – Snow and clouds in the wake of Nor’easter number 4
2018-03-27 – If this hurricane-force low formed a little further west, it would be Nor’easter number 5
http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop_of_the_day/
“But climate is the aggregate of weather, not the aggregate of continuously adjusted thermometer records.” +1!
Science has proven that extreme cold is caused by global warming. Don’t even try to deny it. We know who you are.
The cooling, which could last for decades likely has begun. This will be the death knell for the reign of Warmist terror, already in its death throes. Sure, they will try to blame cooling on “carbon pollution”, but they will be mocked and scorned for it, as people once and for all see that the emperor truly wears no clothes.
Ya but according to Nick all that extra CO2 that mankind put into the air over the last 70 years is hiding in the ocean and it will come back roaring again and jump back into the atmosphere and Voila we will have global runaway warming. To stop it we just have to send the Maldives, Mozambique, Mauritius,, …etc (you get the picture) a biggggggggggggggggg cheque and everything will be fine again.
People like Nick just neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr admit they were wrong
The heat lost to the deep ocean will not be back for 1000 years.
What we are seeing with the alternating warm and cold periods some 500+ years apart is simply a meander in the deep ocean conveyor that alternatively brings more and less cold water to the surface.
This doesn’t require any more “forcing” than does the meander of a river. Climate science has completely missed the boat in its simplistic view of dynamic systems
Show me a computer model that can accurately predict the meander of a river. Until you can do this you cannot model climate. But even still climate is more complex than the meander of a single river.
This is just another manifestation of global warming. Perhaps it’s the lull before the storm. Get you head out of the facts and savor the politics.
IT is all consistent with the kind of climate changes we’d expect with the current acceleration in changes of the earth’s magnetic field. It has nothing to do with any CO2 or greenhouse gases or any nonsense like that. And humans, BTW, have nothing to do with our changing magnetic field. And the best way to adapt to this – whether one place gets colder or hotter – is to be sure we have the energy to meet the challenge. Dig and drill, baby! Dig and drill!
And frack, baby, frack!
Dr. Felix has had a book out for years claiming magnetic reversals are the key to weather. Each Ice Age has begun or ended with a magnetic reversal. His book, Not by Fire but by Ice, is a great read.
Since when is Chicago in the East? It’s a MIDWESTERN city…..good grief Charlie Brown.
Since it is east of the center of the Conus , it is not western ….
There’s the Midwest (Middle West), OH, IN, IL, MI, MN, WI, MO, IA, KS, OK, NB, ND, SD; then there’s the Mountain West, CO, MT, WY, ID, UT, AZ, NM, NV, part of west TX; and finally there’s the Far West, CA, OR, WA. Of course there are AK and HI; I call them Off The Charts (OTC). Chicago is, beyond a doubt, in the Middle West. So are Cleveland, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Terre Haute, Detroit, Lansing, Springfield, Milwaukee, Duluth, Minneapolis, St. Paul, Des Moines, Omaha, St. Louis, Branson, Lincoln, Pierre, Fargo, Kansas City, Topeka, Oklahoma City, and lots of others I can’t think of right at the moment, such as Grygla. Some people refer to the Midwest by its closeness to the Great Lakes, but lots of the Midwest is far from any water (see Chadron, NB, for instance). Some of the Midwest is also called the Great Plains. Whatever you call it, it’s a big place, considered Flyover Country by the Important People on the coasts. I lived there (IN, WI) for many years and loved it. Most of it had (is still having) a long, late, rough winter, which may be more the rule than the exception in years to come.
Earth is having a complete climate change. It is a natural thing. Many many years will pass before it stabilizes. We will all be long gone.
It will NEVER “stabilize”.
Exactly.
Ice cores show the only relatively stable times are interglacials like now. Rest of the time, compared to now, is wildly unstable.
With the official end of the LIA in the 1860’s, we have experienced ~30-35 years of an alternatering warming/cooler cycles. In warmed in 1860-80, 1910-40, and 1975-98. With global cooling in between.
Unfortunity, if you look at the past ice ages, as Fred Sanford said- “It’s the big one”!! So hold on to your socks.
After the climate change people do their adjustments this April will be the hottest ever.
Kind of makes me think we are living back in the 30’s in the Soviet Union
The future is constant, it’s the past that keeps changing.
Mr. P. Phil’s call … was it for six more weeks … or months … of winter?
As for finishing the month, here in Buffalo at least the snow for this weekend is only expected at higher elevations, so it will just be cold, rainy, and miserable.
This story made it on to Drudge. The NWS has a Frost/Freeze for Saturday night in Northern Indiana, which happens to be on the same latitude between Chicago and Detroit. That’s a good way to close out the record book for April….
My home heaters in central Indiana are running right now. When will this end?
If some get their way, it will end when they have increased the taxes on the fuel you use so much you can no longer afford to use your heaters.
In Chicago, landlords use May 1st as The Date to stop providing heat to their tenants. And they really do not care if you get cold. It’s your problem, not theirs. Leaky windows and lack of thermal windowpanes – not their problem. I did turn the furnace off the other day and forgot to turn it back on at bed time. When I woke up the next morning, the indoor temperature was 65F – not life threatening, but still chilly. So I turned the furnace back on. Heat feels good.
Dave in the UP, note that the Mighty Mac has been closed to traffic due to falling ice and wind more this year so far than since records were started.
Better call al ( gotcha ) gore
Weather not climate is *sigh*
Thanks for your effort, but everybody here already knows that.
everyone except the people posting this kind of stuff on a site that purports to do climate news
Except when you need it to be.
I’d tend to agree, except for the way people like you latch onto every heat wave or tropical storm as proof of global warming.
haha oh MarkW, I challenge you to search my every comment on this site and find a single time I actually talked about a single event. Mostly I try to get the people here to read a bunch of basic textbooks, and those are pure physics and atmospheric chemistry. Say MarkW, have you ever bothered to read one?
Gee benben…”pure physics and atmospheric chemistry?” Why not atmospheric physics and atmospheric chemistry?
Better yet benben…how about atmospheric chemistry AND physics together…including coverage of climate change? https://www.amazon.com/Atmospheric-Chemistry-Physics-Pollution-Climate/dp/1118947401/ref=la_B001IQXN04_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1524869576&sr=1-1
I’m willing to bet that I’ve read a lot more physics books than you have benben. Even better, I understood them.
benben demonstrates the futility of trying to educate a troll.
He’s read a physics book that says that CO2 traps heat.
And that’s all he wants to know.
What about feedbacks? Who cares, CO2 traps heat.
What about logarithmic response and saturation levels? Who cares, CO2 traps heat.
What about the earth being much warmer in the past? Who cares, CO2 traps heat.
What about CO2 levels being as much as 10 to 20 times higher in the past? Who cares, CO2 traps heat.
He’s got one little factoid and it’s all he needs, or wants, to know.
Yeah Michael Jankowski, Seinfeld & Pandis, that’s the one!
MarkW, so, did you find me actually doing what you accused me of? Of course not! If you’d bother to read the book referenced by Michael above, you’d find a whole bunch of little factoids that might be of interest. Regarding your complaints, they are all taken into account. First verify how saturation levels and decreasing sensitivity to CO2 etc. etc. are modeled, then complain that they’re not modeled correctly. With references to the exact formula’s and lines of codes that you do not agree with.
Feel free to examine climate models at: https://www2.cesm.ucar.edu/
Cheers,
Ben
bonbon, nobody w/experience w/this CAGW farce looks at an .edu site. Academics are paid to support the farce.
Peak exponential radical weather climate cold……it’s not just the “weather” your parents use to remember.
BENben ,what kind of ‘weather’ would you expect to occur in your view , as the ‘climatechanges?
I predicted this cooling as far back as November 2017 or earlier, based on a close relationship I (and others) developed between Equatorial Pacific Ocean Sea Surface Temperatures (SST’s) and UAH Lower Tropospheric global temperatures (UAH LT’s) 4 to 6 months later. Here are posts dating back to November 12, 2017 – my earlier similar posts on this close relationship between SST’s and subsequent UAH LT’s date from 2016.
Christy and McNider (1994) and Bill Illis developed earlier similar close relationships.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/12/28/the-end-of-the-end-of-winter/comment-page-1/#comment-2702794
ALLAN MACRAE December 28, 2017 at 4:22 am
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The sharp decline in the UAHLT global atmospheric temperature anomaly in November 2017 should be followed by even more cooling, down to about 0.0C as I predicted on November 12.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/11/11/noaa-la-nina-is-officially-back/#comment-2663851
Allan M R MacRae November 12, 2017 at 1:32 pm
My further analysis suggests the UAH LT temperature anomaly will cool to about 0.0C within about 6 months.
And dont be fooled by the UAH red and blue colors. The latest data point on their chart simply represents the amount of tiny warming above the 1979 to 2010 average. The long term trend has been 0.16 C increase per decade over land and 0.1 over water . So extrapolating a global average it is 0.11 C since water is 70% of earths surface, The figures dont jive exactly because of the number of satellites over each area. Soooooooooooooo extending that to a century from now we get 1.1C increase. That is almost exactly what Lord Moncton says it should be. What I cant understand is we skeptics have the data and the math but no politician is listening.
The satellites are in nearly polar orbits, they are not over any particular place very long.
HI Sara – I left you a long reply to your post here, but it has been eaten by WordPress – and may appear in time. I’ve asked the mod to retrieve it.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/04/26/likely-coldest-april-since-1895-u-s-farmers-delay-planting-crops/comment-page-1/#comment-2801192
Alan Tomalty wrote on April 27, 2018 at 5:13 am
“Soooooooooooooo extending that to a century from now we get 1.1C increase.”
And, IF 1.1C of warming occurs in 100 years, it will NOT be catastrophic – and in fact it will be beneficial for humanity and the environment.
But please understand that this calculated 1.1C warming is based on the UPPER BOUND of climate sensitivity, when one ASSUMES (for the sake of argument) that ALL observed warming is caused by increasing atmospheric CO2.
Christy and McNIder (1994 and 2017) calculated a TCS of 1.1C/(2xCO2) with the same assumption, for the satellite era from 1979 to mid-2017. Again, this UPPER BOUND climate sensitivity suggests any manmade warming will be mild and beneficial.
My best guess is that TCS is even lower, probably between 0.0 to 0.5C/(2xCO2). Furthermore, I expect we will see global cooling starting anytime due to low solar activity, and global average temperatures will trend cooler, not warmer, for the next several/many decades. I hope to be wrong, but my predictive track record to date is infinitely better than the IPCC’s.
Best, Allan
Steve Fraser: I suggest you do a Google search of the term “geosynchronous orbit” before you make any more declaratory statements rgarding the orbit habits of satellires.
I got that reply, Allan. I’m getting rather concerned about the low humidity and lack of rain. It seems like a small thing to worry about, but it’s all part of the picture.
I think I’ll get the Farm Report, see what they’re saying.
No, no, no! You must NOT use the word “recorded”! That is a bad word, a very, very bad word. You will confuse CAGWers and alarmists no end, and leave them wandering around, bumping into things, and eating meat, for Pete’s sake! Stop using bad words!
I’m just keeping an eye on things that are telltale signs of lack of heat, such as the trees not opening leaf/flower buds yet, because the ground isn’t even warm enough for the grass in my lawn to grow. It’s too short on the sunny side of the house, and stunted on the shady side. Plants and insects (or lack of) tell us a lot. I saw a fly yesterday, first one since last summer. I do hope that means things will begin to warm up. I need a new thermometer for the front steps. The lack of insects means I will have to get mealworms for the birds and suet packs, which is fine by me.
There’s one thing that has not been discussed at all: the Earth’s magnetic field is weakening, because it seems (right now) to be heading toward a reversal. The last flipflop happened about 780,000 years ago, none since then. And the sun’s activity is so low it might as well be completely dormant, too. Is anyone at all addressing this, and how it may be affecting the weather, or the climate? Just asking. I haven’t seen anything.
Don’t you worry about a thing.
The adjustocrats at NASA’s GISS, under the calm and cool leadership of Gavin Schmidt will have those cities in ‘hottest April ever’ status before Mother’s day.
I guarantee it.
Oh where, oh where did the GLOBAL CLIMATE Change go? Oh where oh where can it be!!!!!!!
And those outside of cities have delayed their tomato planting by at least two weeks from the average.
Climate data going back 400,000 years (from ice cores) is quite worrying. I have seen the graph. We have been living in a time of very high temperatures. Such periods have happened repeatedly over thousands of years. But following such warming intervals earth temperatures fall precipitously for VERY long periods of time.
It is such cooling, and not warming, which presents mankind with the greatest jeopardy. The global warming fanatics are truly fools. And by pointing us all away from the real danger they do everyone great harm.
Global warming- HAH!
We need an emoji for “I don’t give a damn” “Let’s run fast to the future remove all obstacles. Be as wealthy and powerful as possible consuming resources as fast as possible. Because the ability to run away is the only proven salvation from disaster besides yielding the best life, and quality of life for all. With a sun in my pocket I can create Polders off the Kennedy compound and other Celebrities’ beaches, praying for the seas to rise, creating farmland and jobs. Wealth being national power and influence and quality of life, this ends all wars for resources, save for pride and Jim Jones. And those that know what is best for all of us.
And on top of this, one could guess Chicago and Buffalo and prb’ly any other major cities are grossly UHI affected.
I went to NASA’s EOSDIS site, which gives “slices” of satellite shots of the Earth. It’s an interesting thing to pull the platen at the bottom of the screen to a date like April 18, 2018 and see clearly that snow still covers most of Wisconsin, all of Minnesota, most of Michigan and a goodly part of New England and New York. You’ll have to pull the “map” to the right to find North America. As of 4/26/18, there is still snow cover in large parts of Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota, as well as new England. I’d say this has a lot to do with our current cold WEATHER, but I hope it oozes away. The tops of the tallest trees are showing fatter buds this morning. And the fat calico cat I’ve been feeding on my front steps has a thick, thick coat that is warm on the sunny side, but quite cold on the shadow side.
https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=geographic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels(hidden),Reference_Features(hidden),Coastlines&t=2018-04-22-T00%3
I don’t know if that will work, but you can try the first line to the ? and something should come up.
Hi Sara,
In order to successfully post long complicated links on WordPress the URL needs to be embedded inside a special href syntax.
WorldView 22Apr2018
There are some WordPress blogs that allow you to build and preview your text prior to posting.
Here is an animated WorldView map centred on the the Great Lakes region for 18 April from 2000 to 2018
It looks like there was a good spring in 2010.
Coldest April on record.
Is that before or after the adjustments that cooled the past?
MarkW, just imagine that it is after the adjustments that cooled the past. That would make it even colder. We will see how this plays out for the Summer and next Winter. Of course it would take a decade of such cold winters for the CAGW crowd to even begin to admit that their model guesses are wrong.
Nah, they’d simply ‘adjust’ the past again to make it even colder than today.
I am not a naysayer here……but how are we jumping to the coldest April in history for these cities and the graphics on show records from 1981? I assume there are records for these areas at least back into the 1800s?
I think dey are using an arbitrary 30 year period.
I would prefer using the period from when we started good records, but then it would be hard to show cooling.
Gums…
Re-read the title, it says “recorded history”.
That is my point. Recorded history goes much earlier than 1981.
There is nothing in the article that even implies that this record only goes back to 1981.
Delingpole: Earth in ‘Greatest Two-Year Cooling Event in a Century’ Shock
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/
Dido.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/
Oh dear, what could be changing the planet’s climate?
It is almost time for some real science.
It is an observational fact that there is correlation between mid-ocean seismic activity and EL Nino events and global warming.
There was a 200% average increase in mid-ocean seismic activity for the entire period 1996 to 2015 as compared to the period 1979 to 1996. (see figure 2 in the attached study).
As noted in the study, the mid-ocean seismic activity has very recently abruptly dropped.
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/have-global-temperatures-reached-a-tipping-point-2573-458X-1000149.pdf
https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/shifting-plates-shifting-poles-shifting-paradigms-2573-458X-1000130.pdf
Two years ago was the peak of a really big El Nino. Merely returning to the temperature that was prevelant just before the El Nino would result in two years with lots of cooling.
Maybe, but the AMO and sun have a say in this too.
I didn’t want to pile on.
The die is cast. We are entering a grand minimum which will bring temperatures back to the end of the mini ice age. The 4 weeks of extra growing season will be gone and over a billion may starve. Only liberalism takes the wonderful gift of inter glacial prosperity and weeps about it.
If we are lucky, it will just be a 50 year cool down. If not, a mini ice age or worse a 100,000 year ice age. Cold is the new norm for Earth for millons of years and ALL of humanity’s progress happened after we could stop just surviving and move on to our full potential. Scary indeed!
Thomas Billings –
Our axial tilt isn’t at one of its extremes.
Our orbit is near its ’roundest’ shape.
Precession has us closest to the sun only a few weeks after the December solstice. This might have a modifying influence because there’s less land in the southern hemisphere.
An ice age would require how many years of solar magnetic minimums? We don’t know, but that would be interesting to estimate (long into the future) from historical cooling data, if possible.
Making predictions on climate change based on relatively recent weather analysis is like making a landfall prediction of a distant hurricane based on minute wobbles in its track. Changes in climate temperature are as natural, up and down, as regional droughts and excessive rainfall. A season of excessive rainfall does not portend a future swamp or temporary dry conditions a future desert. That said, LTA’s do provide evidence of change so we must keep our headlights on high beam and shrug off the occasional cold winter or scorching summer — unless it becomes very routine — and that’s only a trigger for more analysis not conjecture.
The die is cast. We are entering a grand minimum which will bring temperatures back to the end of the mini ice age. The 4 weeks of extra growing season will be gone and over a billion may starve. Only liberalism takes the wonderful gift of inter glacial prosperity and weeps about it.
If we are lucky, it will just be a 50 year cool down. If not, a mini ice age or worse a 100,000 year ice age. Cold is the new norm for Earth for millons of years and ALL of humanity’s progress happened after we could stop just surviving and move on to our full potential. Scary indeed!
Lighten up, Francis. You can still go skiiing in Chile. They will welcome you.
Here in Indianapolis, we are tracking toward the eighth coldest April ever, 6.1 degrees below average.
We definitely turned a corner in December. After a 32-month warm period, every month except February has been below normal.
What?? That’s impossible! My AlGore Pocket Almanac is calling for 112 today, with 3 more coastal cities swallowed up by rising sea levels.
What? That’s impossible! My AlGore Pocket Almanac says its been 112 all month, with three more coastal cities swallowed up by rising sea levels.
Here’s a link to Agweb’s latest report on percentages of acres planted, up to April 22, 2018. The Southwest seems to be ahead of the game, but the Midwest and Plains seem to be a bit behind.
https://www.agweb.com/corn-planting-map/
At least Al Gore can jet off to a warmer climate if it gets too cold.
+10
Oh for a P-38!
Thanks!
Ha! A Stinger would work just fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIM-92_Stinger
When stationed at Ft. Devens, MA back in the 80s we had a terrible problem with private pilots ignoring the restricted airspace over the post. (Restricted to 10,000′) Every time one would pass over we would have to cease fire on the range. The A-holes would follow our jump aircraft around waiting to get a view of us jumping onto Turner Drop Zone and we would have to stand there while the Air Force pilot of our aircraft called in to get them to leave us alone. You wanna see a bunch of pissed off SF soldiers? Just make them stand chuted up and hooked up with full combat equipment while the jump aircraft makes multiple unnecessary race tracks because some private pilot wants to impress his girl friend. They would even try that stuff at night!
We were sorely tempted to shoot one down figuring that would end the BS because nothing was ever done about those repeated violations from what we could learn. They even had that fat drunken manslaughtering Sen. Ted Kennedy in to brief him and nothing changed. There were several good reasons to close that post during the downsizings and I’m glad they did.
Ice pellets? Pshaw. Twin Cities had a foot an a half of snow in a fully fledged blizzard a week ago. (or was that two? Time……)
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/26/delingpole-earth-in-greatest-two-year-cooling-event-in-a-century-shock/ Have not read all of thjs post so I hope this is not repetitive.
so I guess the GEOENGINEERING/CHEMTRAILS secret project of Climate Modification is working. Isn’t that the moral to this story?
Thank GAWD for Global Warming or it would be even worse, no? 🙂
Everyone knows that warming causes cooling.
DO SOMETHING AL! Darn this global warming.
it’s good Canadian weather. The rain is falling straight down. Well, slightly to the side like.
What’s the fuss?
But is causes rental truck excursions on the sidewalks.
This is a little OT — I live across the street from an elementary school. Every morning and afternoon, there is a traffic jam of parents dropping off and picking up their kids. All the other schools in the area are the same way, even though they have school buses. I wonder how many of these parents are greens, and wasting their gasoline, and adding to carbon emissions, needlessly driving their automobiles.
The democrats, the socialist, the liberals and all those brainwashed sheeple will never admit they have been indoctrinated in school to believe in lies, therefore, they will continue to believe the lies no matter how real evidence you submit to them.
Fortunately, some of them, despite having been feed the blue pill all their lives, eventually take the red pill and wake up to the fact that they’ve been lied to.
Nah, it can’t have any correlation with the last cool summer during the solar minimum of 2009.
You can not involve the true facts to the brainwashed media, they are hard wired to believe in the Co2 lies and nothing else. The climate on earth is controlled by the sun and nothing else. CO2, pollution, volcano’s ash, are all temporary insignificant factors in the warming or cooling, climate change is the variable that follows our son variable radiation flux (we rotate around a variable radiation intensity star).
that is beyond stupid.
I wish toothache on a warmest/alarmist. It’s a week before the ‘dentist ‘ comes to his village on a mule with his forceps. If he’s lucky.
You left out herbal medicine. And surgery with no anesthetic. 🙂
Curved vice-grips … cleaned by wiping with a cloth after his last patient.
Global warming is the lied told to cover the truth, which is global cooling. The habitable zone of our star is contracting inward as it cools. There is no “main sequence” for stars. This is also a lie. Stars ignite and consume their fuel in a near linear fashion (with a tapering off at the end). Stars thusly cool in such a fashion. Civilizations evolve farther out (on Mars, in this case) and migrate inward to follow the cooling star.
Desertification is the smoking gun to look towards. What Mars is now, so will Earth become. At one time as people gazed from Mars towards Earth, we looked to them as Venus does to us now, covered in clouds from the enormous amount of water vapor in the atmosphere. Many mistakenly believe that deserts form because temperatures rise. This is patently false. Deserts grow when precipitation decreases, and precipitation decreases when less water is evaporated from the oceans because of less radiation from the sun.
Venus is also not as hot as we’re told. It’s warm, but not 800 degrees warm. More like 150, in that area. Soon, Venusian clouds will begin to part and the surface will begin to see sunlight. That’s when we seed.
Why aren’t we told all of this? Simply put, there’s not enough room on the Arc for all of us. We’ve all heard the 144,000 number that indicates how many get to go to heaven, according to some Christian sects? That’s the most likely number they can fit on the ship (some call this “the Moon”). The rest get left behind to starve while the deserts consume the Earth and is left a barren wasteland incapable of supporting life. If you knew only 144,000 got to go, what would you do?
That’s right. Global war to the scale of neighbor vs neighbor.
and that’s a grizzly bear eating crackers in your kitchen at night. Don’t believe me though. Seek out a second opinion.
Ummm… that stuff you’re swallowing must be rather strong, letmepicyou. You shouldn’t drive until it wears off.
Either you forgot a sarc tag or you are in serious need of an intervention.
How long before Chris whines that I need to add a link to that opinion?
Search “Artificial Ice Nucleation”.
I have been saying it for years… a mini ice age is coming and Al Gore and the Climatarians are a bunch of fools.
Didn’t AGW theory predict cold April weather? I mean, it seems to have predicted everything else.
And Philadelphia has it’s warmest April in 2018. Obviously we all know what Cherry Picking data is, why still do that?
Amount of ice that melts in the Arctic that affects sea level change is not particularly Germaine to the feared results of global warming, because its the quantity of land ice that matters, Here are some accepted facts: 90% of the world’s land ice is contained in Antarctica and most of the rest in Greenland. Two NASA reports on the land ice in Antarctica measured by radar and satellites between 2002 and 2014 concluded a 3% increase. For a net decrease in land ice, Greenland’s ice would have to have had a greater than 26% melt. I am not aware of any data that claims this kind of result. In fact there is some evidence that while there is melting in areas near the waters inland has had an increase in ice thickness.
The current accepted models for global warming and the data were diverging to an extent that a 99% certain hypothesis test on the low side for data indicated that the population means of the predicted data and the observed data were not the same, to deal with this disparity, the modelers instead of questioning the model, change the primary reference data set to rationalize the data. This is not scientific.
Very reputable scientists and meteriorologists postulate that we are entering a cooling cycle because of sun spot activity entering a cyclical low period. There is a positive correlation between the amount of sun spot activity and temperature. To postulate that earth temperature is correlated to the amount of radiation from the sun should be common sense. Whether or not the sun spot activity will remain at a low point for as long as is predicted by some remains to be seen.
You *know* what they’d be saying if this was record heat, don’t you?
NOAA says it is hottest year ever
Here in Chicago, spring is very very late in terms of plants flowering/leafing out. In contrast, one year we had leaf-out by early march. During that early spring I could not detect any negative impact on plants or birds, at least visually. Such a big swing in spring is what global warming should do but there was no crisis.
If it’s the year I am thinking about, here in Michigan maybe 2012, those early buds got froze off the trees in April and we had a bad fruit crop. But the following summer was also the year of the drought in the Midwest, so we didnt have any corn either. Lucky that global trade was still working…
What do you think would happen if you pointed this transmitter skywards????
To interact with the global electric circuit.
NOT. ONE. DAMN. THING.
Your premise is ridiculous, the effective radiated power of such antennae is a microscopic fraction of the total power in the atmosphere from solar energy.
Bogus beliefs like HAARP weather modification from radio transmitters is just plain stupid. Feel free to be as upset as you wish.
Anthony, “Feel free to be as upset as you wish.”
No need to get upset when you know your on the right track.
“We presented experimental results of strong plasma modifications induced by X-mode powerful HF radio waves injected towards the magnetic zenith into the high latitude F region of the ionosphere. The experiments were conducted in 2009–2011 using the EISCAT Heating facility,”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1364682612002490
Part of the summary (In this case Ne stands for Electron Density)
“It was shown that observed Ne enhancements under X-mode HF heating cannot be explained by temperature-dependent reaction rates. Enhanced production of ionization by accelerated electrons is an alternative mechanism for Ne increases induced by an X-mode heating. Fluxes of accelerated electrons can be produced by Langmuir turbulence. Taking into account that an X-mode wave cannot produce the Langmuir waves, we assume that the X-mode may first be converted to the Z- mode, which can induce intense plasma turbulence above the X-mode reflection altitude. In addition to processes involving direct electrostatic conversion of the Z-mode wave, the Z-mode waves can be scattered by AFAIs that, in turn, can also lead to the producing Langmuir turbulence.”
Anthony, I hope you take the time to read up on this modification experiment.
Nope, not going to bother. Waste of time, all of it.
+100
Anthony, Hear’s the results of a ionospheric modification experiment they carried out in 1998.
“N. F. Blagoveshchenskaya, V. A. Kornienko, A. V. Petlenko, A. Brekke, M. T. Rietveld. Geophysical
phenomena during an ionospheric modification experiment at Tromsø, Norway. Annales Geophysicae,
European Geosciences Union, 1998, 16 (10), pp.1212-1225.
Geophysical phenomena during an ionospheric
modification experiment at Tromsø, Norway.
N. F. Blagoveshchenskaya, V. A. Kornienko, A. V. Petlenko, A. Brekke, M. T. Rietveld
https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/file/index/docid/316449/filename/angeo-16-1212-1998.pdf
PS I was unaware you were so closed minded about small atmospheric electrical discharge and the connection to weather enhancement
One thing missing in the blog post or the article are the actual temperatures that are presently record.
The last 2 years are the coldest in 4 decades. Funny no one knows about it except the firewood/gas/coal/heating oil industry.
Through 26 April 2018 these are the LCD sites running -10 or more degrees F below normal for April 2018 over the USA48 domain. They are located in Iowa, Minnesota, North Dakota, Wisconsin, South Dakota, and Nebraska. The full listing of all ~700 sites can be found here in the 2nd table which spans April 2018 month-to-date:
https://atmos.washington.edu/marka/lcd/usa48/tlcd.txt
REGION: United States (lower 48) MONTH: 201804 TAVG and TDPTR: deg F PCP and PDPTR: inches TDPTR and PDPTR: departure from 1981-2010 normal ====================================================== ID ENDDAY TAVG TDPTR PCP PDPTR SITENAME ====================================================== EST 20180426 30.7 -15.2 1.05 -1.74 ESTHERVILLE IA RST 20180426 32.0 -13.8 3.18 0.44 ROCHESTER MN STP 20180426 34.4 -13.6 0.04 -1.39 ST PAUL MN MPX 20180426 32.0 -13.5 2.55 0.02 CHANHASSEN MN RWF 20180426 32.3 -13.3 T -2.29 REDWOOD FALLS MN MCW 20180426 32.6 -13.2 4.00 0.81 MASON CITY IA MIC 20180426 32.7 -13.2 0.01 -2.27 MINNEAPOLIS CRYSTAL MN CCY 20180426 34.6 -12.8 2.37 -0.62 CHARLES_CITY IA DVL 20180426 29.6 -12.7 0.01 -0.76 DEVILS LAKE ND MKT 20180426 32.7 -12.6 T -2.60 MANKATO MN STC 20180426 31.0 -12.5 1.23 -0.93 ST CLOUD MN EAU 20180426 32.6 -12.4 1.59 -0.73 EAU CLAIRE WI MFI 20180426 31.8 -12.3 2.25 0.44 MARSHFIELD WI FCM 20180426 34.1 -12.2 T -2.37 MINNEAPOLIS FLYING CLOUD MN ALO 20180426 35.9 -12.1 1.73 -1.40 WATERLOO IA ATY 20180426 31.1 -11.9 0.87 -0.82 WATERTOWN SD AUW 20180426 31.4 -11.8 3.13 0.83 WAUSAU WI MSP 20180426 34.8 -11.7 2.17 -0.06 TWIN CITIES MN GLR 20180426 29.1 -11.6 2.89 0.73 GAYLORD HON 20180426 34.0 -11.6 2.29 0.33 HURON ISW 20180426 32.6 -11.5 4.40 2.00 WISCONSIN RAPIDS ASOS FAR 20180426 31.9 -11.3 0.37 -0.74 FARGO HECTOR INTL AP ND MHE 20180426 35.6 -11.3 1.56 -0.22 MITCHELL SD FSD 20180426 34.6 -11.0 3.14 0.55 SIOUX FALLS PIR 20180426 35.2 -10.9 1.65 0.15 PIERRE SD RHI 20180426 29.8 -10.9 2.56 0.38 RHINELANDER WI ARX 20180426 34.8 -10.8 3.70 0.83 La Crosse Weather Office WI DBQ 20180426 36.7 -10.7 1.59 -1.53 DUBUQUE IA JMS 20180426 30.9 -10.7 0.04 -0.92 JAMESTOWN ND LSE 20180426 37.0 -10.7 2.96 0.11 LA CROSSE WI OSH 20180426 34.3 -10.7 3.20 0.96 OSHKOSH WI TQE 20180426 39.5 -10.7 0.16 -2.49 TEKAMAH NE MIW 20180426 37.7 -10.6 0.92 -1.86 MARSHALLTOWN IA ABR 20180426 32.9 -10.5 0.97 -0.53 ABERDEEN SD BRL 20180426 42.6 -10.5 0.59 -2.55 BURLINGTON IA MOT 20180426 31.9 -10.5 0.01 -0.91 MINOT ND OFK 20180426 38.4 -10.5 1.32 -0.93 NORFOLK NE PKD 20180426 29.8 -10.5 0.25 -1.27 PARK RAPIDS MN SUX 20180426 38.4 -10.4 1.14 -1.39 SIOUX CITY IA GFK 20180426 30.6 -10.3 0.15 -0.66 GRAND FORKS INTL AP ND DVN 20180426 39.5 -10.2 0.80 -2.02 DAVENPORT IA OVS 20180426 37.0 -10.2 1.67 -1.20 BOSCOBEL_ ODX 20180426 38.0 -10.1 1.21 -0.94 ORD NE HIB 20180426 27.9 -10.0 0.00 M HIBBING INL 20180426 28.4 -10.0 0.28 -0.97 INTERNATIONAL FALLS MSN 20180426 35.7 -10.0 2.12 -0.81 MADISON WII am not a scientist or an expert but I read WUWT for the different views expressed there. The comments above seem to me how civilized debate should be. ‘Koop in VA’ sounds a sensible guy and people argue with him without abuse. If only that were the normal way in which climate change discussions took place.
March and
April and Mach temperatures here are 10 to 12 degrees below average. We live in the outer suburbs of Washington, DC.
Here in my neck of the woods in N Central Indiana near Anderson, IN.
Cloudy
Temp. 46 F (7.77 C) (Forecast high 52 F or 11.11 C)
North wind 14 mph gusting to 20 mph.
Forecast low is for a hard frost tonight 29 F (-1.66 C)
According to the Purdue University data base average temps for Anderson, IN this time of year are:
High 61 F (16.11 C)
Low 42 F (5.55 C)
But of course we have nothing to worry or complain about. It’s just weather. Right?
A stronger Jetstream holding to the south with more storms and cool Temps was predicted and observed in 2009 with the last solar minimum. So we have 2 or 3 more years like this.
Temps here in the Seattle area have been unseasonably low too. But they adjusted them upward with temps from Sea-Tac airport, tarmac and jet exhaust.
Now which party was the one that fought to retain slavery ?
Here’s an old New England saying I just made up: When celebrities talk about “climate change”, it’s time to stack more firewood!