Claim: Climate Superstorms May Scuttle the Caribbean's Green Energy Plans

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

What power system is most likely to survive a category six superstorm?

Climate change may scuttle Caribbean’s post-hurricane plans for a renewable energy boom

MASAŌ ASHTINE, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES, MONA CAMPUS

April 20, 2018 Updated: April 20, 2018 11:02am

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Masaō Ashtine, University of the West Indies, Mona Campus

(THE CONVERSATION) Puerto Rico lost electricity again on April 18, seven months after Hurricane Maria first knocked out the island’s power grid. For people in some remote rural areas, the blackout was more of the same. Their power had yet to be restored.

The dangerous fragility of Puerto Rico’s energy systems has put other Caribbean countries on high alert. Across the region, electric grids are dated, ailing and overburdened – making it easy work for a powerful passing storm.

Caribbean nations also rely heavily on oil and diesel imports to fuel their power plants – a dirty and expensive way to produce energy. So even before the 2017 hurricane season, Caribbean governments were trying to integrate renewable energy sources like wind and solar into their existing grids.

Unfortunately, I believe that climate change will also complicate the region’s transition toward renewable energy. The Caribbean is comprised of island nations, which are the world’s most vulnerable places when it comes to rising seas, changing weather patterns and other effects of global warming.

Installing more wind, solar and hydropower – the world’s most reliable and common renewable energy options – would seem to be a more obvious step in the right direction. Between 2015 and 2016, the global capacity of these green power sources rose 9 percent – nearly half of which comes from the widespread adoption of solar panels.

But, in a Caribbean of increasing weather extremes, these green energy systems are themselves vulnerable.

Modern wind turbines, for example, were first engineered in Europe – a region that rarely experiences Category 5 hurricanes. Wind speeds above 165 mph would tear the turbines apart.

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Climate-change-may-scuttle-Caribbean-s-12850346.php

Coal, gas, zero emission nuclear – all these systems can be armoured. Properly constructed nuclear power plants are already heavily armoured.

Wind turbines, solar panels – not so much.

Granted Fukushima suffered a meltdown when the cooling systems were destroyed by a Tsunami, but Fukishima was old technology; modern passive safe designs like pebble bed reactors cannot melt down, even if all their cooling infrastructure is physically destroyed.

Burying the power lines should also be a no brainer. Well constructed buried power lines are not damaged by storm winds, and are more resistant to floods.

Contrast this to the blindingly obvious risk that even normal storms will smash fragile solar and wind power installations, let alone the worsening superstorms climate change is supposed to deliver, and it should be obvious to everyone except greens that renewables are a complete fail for delivering reliable electricity in storm prone regions.

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April 20, 2018 3:55 pm

That windmill photos gets a laugh out of me every time.

Reply to  Max Photon
April 20, 2018 3:55 pm

Sorry … wind turbine.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Max Photon
April 20, 2018 8:34 pm

Prayer wheel?

Reply to  Max Photon
April 20, 2018 9:23 pm

Hope wheel.

Martin Hovland
Reply to  Max Photon
April 20, 2018 11:35 pm

Propeller

Sommer
Reply to  Max Photon
April 21, 2018 8:38 am
Bill Powers
Reply to  Max Photon
April 21, 2018 11:31 am

Wheel of Misfortune.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Max Photon
April 22, 2018 12:02 pm

Whirligig

Ian W
Reply to  Max Photon
April 28, 2018 1:32 am

Subsidy farm marker.
After all the subsidies have been farmed they are left as monuments to green stupidity and political virtue signalling.

Reply to  Max Photon
April 20, 2018 3:56 pm

Though I guess it mills OPM quite well.

higley7
Reply to  Max Photon
April 21, 2018 6:30 pm

“Installing more wind, solar and hydropower – the world’s most reliable and common renewable energy options ”
First , hydropower is very limited in its application, so that’s done.
But, wind and solar are NOT, NOT, NOT the most reliable and common renewable energy option. They might be called “common” because politicians are forcing them one people and nations, but they are not reliable at all, cost more than annoy other energy, and are not sustainable.
YOU CANNOT BUILD A RELIABLE ENERGY SUPPLY FROM UNRELIABLE ENERGY SOURCES.
“Sustainable” does not include equipment that requires rare elements, which are expensive. They are expensive because they are not sustainable, being rare. How do so few people understand this?

Ken Mitchell
April 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Turbine blades in jet engines work quite nicely at very high speeds. It ought to be possible to build relatively small wind turbines that could handle hurricane-force winds. The problem might be making a device that could handle not only high winds, but also debris blown by the storm. Jet engines are notoriously susceptible to “FOD” or “foreign object damage”.
Alternatively, larger wind turbines could be designed to “fold down” in preparation for high winds, and stowed.
I’m not going to attempt to calculate whether it would be economical to build wind turbines that would be able to withstand the storms.

Reply to  Ken Mitchell
April 20, 2018 4:54 pm

Well, since it is not economical to build wind turbines that can’t handle storms … the analysis for a more expensive turbine should be fairly straight forward.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Ken Mitchell
April 20, 2018 5:34 pm

‘…..Jet engines are notoriously susceptible to “FOD” or “foreign object damage”.’
Yep. I served in the U.S. Navy in my younger days. During air operations at sea, aircraft carrier flight crews will do what’s called a “FOD walkdown” on the flight deck. They form a line and walk across the flight deck looking for anything on the deck which could get into the turbines of the jet engines and cause damage.
I can only begin to imagine what would happen to a wind turbine on land when a hurricane blows an object into it. That is one of the reasons why I would guess wind turbines are a bad idea in hurricane prone areas.

April 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Hurricanes are dangerous.
Few things can survive them undamaged.
The answer for renewables is to be so cheap that they can be rebuilt immediately.
There needs to be a step change in technology for solar and wind. Each panel needs to cost less than a single US dollar. And each turbine less than 10.
Until then it’s not economic in the Caribbean.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  M Courtney
April 20, 2018 8:39 pm

Is it economical anywhere?

Larry D
April 20, 2018 4:21 pm

Snicker… Wind turbines only generate electricity within a narrow range of wind speed, depending on the design. Armored modular nuclear reactors would probably be the optimum trade-off.

markl
April 20, 2018 4:21 pm

We’re even prevented by CC from mitigating CC by utilizing wind and solar energy. We’re doomed I tell you. We’re doomed.

Latitude
April 20, 2018 4:42 pm

‘The Caribbean is comprised of island nations, which are’…………. mostly mountainous………. ‘the world’s most vulnerable places when it comes to rising seas’,… if it’s 100’s of feet
“Burying the power lines”….would cost way too much money they don’t have…..unless the drug trade picks up

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Latitude
April 23, 2018 9:04 am

Burying the power lines is up to 10X the cost of overhead and up to 4X the life-cycle cost for the cable itself. High water tables complicate things, and ground movement can be an issue (Christchurch).

arthur4563
April 20, 2018 5:09 pm

ElonMusk is trying to convince the Puerto Ricons that his batteries and solar panels will allow folks to not need a grid, but even if folks could afford his solar roofs ,the sun can disappear for a lot longer period of time than batteries can provide power – they are only able to shift power a matter of hours, not days.

GoatGuy
April 20, 2018 5:10 pm

The Problem isn’t mythical climate change. It is money deficiency up front. The situation is like the ancient movie clip: W.C.Fields is in his long chauffeured sedan and encounters a little girl running madly next to her bicycle. He hails, ‘Little Girl, why don’t you just ride your bicycle?’ … she replies, “I can’t, I’m running too hard”.
This is the Caribbean.
Spending millions of VERY short-supply money on fuel oil, diesel, gasoline.
Some to make power.
Some to power motorcycles.
Some to power cars, busses and trucks.
Some even to bottle up and sell as cooking fuel.
It is running too fast against its petroleum-fueled energy deficit than to invest the nonexistent surplus money on anything as forward thinking as nuclear power.
In many ways, the Caribbean countries are poster children demonstrating that one can really keep a whole people enslaved to something, so long as they must buy small portions of the something all the time, every day. Like the countless people in East Oakland who buy single bars of soap, baggies of laundry detergent, pints of milk, half-pints of booze. Small quantities because as they “stretch their money”, they end up spending quite a premium to NOT buy anything in bulk.
Just saying.
Poverty is real.
But the crutch of impoverished planning is a yoke around the poor’s neck.
GoatGuy

Reply to  GoatGuy
April 20, 2018 7:19 pm

Good analogy, I am on fixed income. Thank goodness for Amazon which gives me the ability to stretch my dollars. I buy a case of toilet paper once a year. I do similar for roll towels, etc. That makes a big difference in allowing me to stretch my thin dollars. When I shop with my food stamps I also buy bulk products. Then break that down for storage, and I get by very well doing that. With a nice garden and the know how to process foods from my years of restaurant experience I eat very well, and always have many months of food stocked up. At the peak of my garden I give stuff away to neighbors.

Reply to  GoatGuy
April 21, 2018 5:38 am

Extremely odd statement GoatGuy.
You describe their funds deficiency and infer blame on fossil fuels.
Yet, fossil fuels are the simplest and most efficient method for Puerto Rico to solve their money deficiency problems.
That is, to build or assemble product for sale internationally.
Not demonize fossil fuels.
Puerto Rico certainly does not have the income to support the most expensive energy forms; allegedly renewable wind or solar.
Nuclear energy would be the and is the best energy sources that support the entire GDP (Gross Domestic Product) development, build and sale process.
Only, nuclear energy requires the highest levels of up front expenditure and longest running rigorous meticulous maintenance expenditures.
Nuclear energy production has the greatest sensitivity to corruption caused weaknesses.
Which leaves fossil fuels as Puerto Rico’s best solution and a viable long term goal.

Enginer
Reply to  ATheoK
April 22, 2018 5:18 am

Just a side thought- I remember when Bunker C and better oil was competitive with coal and natural gas for electricity generation on our East Coast. Most people forget that after the US guaranteed again to protect Saudi Arabia after the 1973 oil crisis, the dropping oil prices reached around $7 a barrel at times. In 1997 the US terminated a major project to develop bio-oils from algae because it was uneconomical. Much of Puerto Rico’s generation capacity was developed during this era to run on imported oil.

TonyL
April 20, 2018 5:16 pm

I have been down to the islands in the immediate aftermath of major hurricane hits. Two things hit you hard.
1) The incredible storm damage. Palm trees blown down *everywhere*. Whole palm forests knocked flat. Roads blocked by hundreds of trees per mile. Bridges destroyed by torrents of flooded streams. Huge mudslides coming down the mountains, again destroying roads.
2) The other thing to see is the tremendous energy and industrious work of the locals getting things working again. Roads are cleared, temporary river crossings created (sometimes little more than fording areas), power restored. As soon as raw basic services are restored, businesses reopen and people get back to their day jobs.
Unfortunately, sometimes the island is completely devastated, with no area untouched. In this case the people are in a world of hurt. Rescue supplies of food, water, medicines and emergency shelters have to be the first priority. Then comes generators, fuel, chainsaws, heavy equipment, and building supplies. Rebuilding will be a long, slow, painful and expensive process.
Having a heavy reliance on renewables is decidedly *unhelpful*. It is already decided that they will be destroyed in a hurricane, and would have to be rebuilt from the start. Until then you have a big power generation deficit, hindering other recovery efforts. Not good. Bad planning.

Joe Shaw
April 20, 2018 5:31 pm

Extended power outages in the Caribbean and Puerto Rico in particular were almost exclusively due to failures of electrical distribution systems, not generation. Those failures were attributable in large part to old, under-capitalized, poorly maintained systems. Anything that drives up cost of power (e.g. renewables) will be an (even greater) economic disaster for the region. The archipelagic nature of the grid provides little opportunity for load sharing and exacerbates the intermittency problem for renewables.
In the Caribbean having a bunch of medium size, modern coal plants with big-ass piles of coal on site to minimize supply disruptions is probably an optimal solution.

Doug
April 20, 2018 5:47 pm

This country is broke, but they should really bury all their power lines where possible.

Mickey Reno
April 20, 2018 5:51 pm

Sure, Elon, build these poor people more solar and battery capacity. Exactly what they don’t need.
Footage of damage on Puerto Rico due to Hurricane Maria, last fall.

At around the 2:00 min mark, a wind farm with large turbines shows catastrophic damage to every single machine, all with lost blades, and none capable of generating.
Around 3:40 mark, we see footage of downed power lines along a coast road.
At 4:30, we see damage to a solar field. A huge percentage of the panels are destroyed, with one end of the large field faring slightly better. This field will need to be completely rebuilt before anyone will get any useful electricity from this facility. Not only that, the existing panels will require work to clean up and recycle.
At 5:50, we see some sort of radar or communication tower. If there was a surrounding sphere, it’s completely gone.
At the 7:00 mark, there’s some sort of commercial greenhouse, it looks like, with glass panels blown out.
Of course, many houses, roads and bridges damaged, with roofs torn off boats on dry land, flash flood damage, hillside slumps, downed trees. Many homes and small villages are scattered and high on steep hills, with their roads damaged.

dudleyhorscroft
Reply to  Mickey Reno
April 21, 2018 4:53 am

What I found amazing was that most of the houses with completely flat roofs appear to be undamaged, while houses with ridged roofs – even if only slightly ridged – seem far more likely to have part or all of the roof missing. I assume that the ridged roofs created sufficient lift that they were dislodged from their moorings, and hence were blown away.

thomasjk
Reply to  Mickey Reno
April 22, 2018 3:30 am

Just to add some dimension to the condition (I hesitate to call it a problem since there are no affordable solutions), the link below connects to a list of hurricanes that have hit Puerto Rico.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hurricanes_in_Puerto_Rico
As you can see from this Wikipedia article, hurricanes and tropical storms are just an ongoing feature of living in this little corner of paradise. Storm damage happens — and frequently…..and many time severe.
I was in San Juan a few months after Hugo paid a visit in 1989. The damage that Maria dealt looks much the same as the damage from Hugo except perhaps it’s a more severe same old same old.

April 20, 2018 6:05 pm

Just change this line,
“The Caribbean is comprised of island nations, which are the world’s most vulnerable places when it comes to rising seas, changing weather patterns and other effects of global warming.”
to this,
“The Caribbean is comprised of tropical island nations, which are the world’s most vulnerable places when it comes to the expected damage to solar and wind energy production due to naturally occurring tropical storms.”
and it makes a lot more sense.

TonyL
April 20, 2018 6:30 pm

I was enjoying a beverage at a breezy open air cafe on one of the islands. You could not help but notice the roof supports. The roof ridge was supported by a huge wooden truss. The truss members were huge 8 in. X 14 in. timbers. All joints were made with heavy steel plates and generously through-bolted with equally massive bolts. The rest of the building frame was built to match, with massive timbers, lots of steel at every connection, and plenty of big bolts to hold it all together.
All in all, it was reminiscent of the post and beam construction of a New England dairy barn of old. But the old dairy barns were built to store many, many tons of hay in the loft.
Here, the roof was just a roof. So why the massive overbuild?
Finally it dawned on me. That massive structure was not to hold the roof up, it was to hold the roof down.

Paul Johnson
April 20, 2018 6:45 pm

Just to be pedantic, Fukushima melted down because the emergency generators intended to power the auxiliary cooling systems were destroyed by the tsunami. Had they been sufficiently elevated, even this old technology nuclear plant would have survived.

oeman50
Reply to  Paul Johnson
April 21, 2018 9:01 am

I noticed that as well, Paul. You are spot on.

GREG in Houston
April 20, 2018 7:27 pm

While I agree that turbines and solar panels are not the answer, the answer is not burying power lines. Burying is prohibitively expensive (especially high power lines) and PR would never be able to recoup the cost.

Sommer
Reply to  GREG in Houston
April 21, 2018 8:33 am

Take a look at what rural residents in Ontario are being forced to deal with:
http://ontario-wind-resistance.org/2015/01/27/first-wind-turbines-then-power-lines-and-now-they-need-guard-rails/
Driving down roads that have monstrous turbines on either side and especially at night through clusters with piercing red lights flashing is dangerous.

MarkW
April 20, 2018 7:58 pm

“the world’s most reliable and common renewable energy options”
That thar is one mighty low bar to surpass.

MarkW
April 20, 2018 8:00 pm

If Fukushima’s diesel generator had been above ground instead of in the basement, or at least in a water tight room. There never would have been a meltdown.

Boris
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2018 9:47 pm

Actually if they had put the emergency generators in the parking lot level at Fukushima there would have been no melt down.

s-t
Reply to  MarkW
April 21, 2018 10:01 am

I understand that even when emergency generator arrived on the plant, the electric connections where wet and couldn’t be used.

NW sage
April 20, 2018 8:02 pm

UNLESS the power lines are buried, there is NO WAY any high voltage main transmission lines can survive a CAT 6 storm. Too many towers will blow down. The only way to survive with power still available is to distribute small generators widely – to long high power transmission lines are not necessary – or bury the grid (and hope the earthquakes aren’t too bad!)

MarkW
April 20, 2018 8:04 pm

Where exactly, is the evidence that climate change is creating stronger storms?

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  MarkW
April 20, 2018 8:55 pm

“let alone the worsening superstorms climate change is supposed to deliver,”
ya the above sentence made me cringe

J Mac
April 20, 2018 8:07 pm

Gads! We are supposed to pretend a typical Atlantic hurricane is now a ‘Climate Super Storm’??!!
These griffters will say anything to keep their long con game running!
Speaking of griffters, haven’t seen any mewling posts from Griff in a while???

oeman50
Reply to  J Mac
April 21, 2018 9:04 am

Griff has been gracing Tony Heller’s site recently, spreading the, er, wealth.

Reply to  oeman50
April 22, 2018 8:38 am

Fertilizer.

kaliforniakook
Reply to  J Mac
April 21, 2018 3:30 pm

Go easy on Ms. Griff! She provided a lot of humor. She was the epitome of the dumb blonde joke. I looked forward to reading her “thoughts” on climate science. I just had to be careful to swallow my coffee before I read beyond her name.

GREY LENSMAN
April 20, 2018 8:36 pm

Expensive fossil fuel, 10 cents per KWHr, Cheap Renewable 40 Cents
per KWhr. Use geothermal and second hand turbines, problem solved cheaply

thomasjk
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 22, 2018 3:53 am

And then in order to have money with which to subsidize the “renewables”, you must have a ‘sustainable’ economy that is powered reliably by energy that is derived mostly from fossil fuels. Then you can have enough solar and wind generation that you can show it off and use it to do a bit of virtue signalling.

April 20, 2018 9:02 pm

There is no such thing as a category six storm. The definition of category 5 has no upper limit.

hunter
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 21, 2018 3:27 am

Just turn it up to “12”.
Yet another sign of how “climate change” requires the true believer to be self deluded.
https://youtu.be/DzLP2Z7JVZA

Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 21, 2018 8:26 am

Even though I’ve seen that a million times, I still laugh.

GREY LENSMAN
April 20, 2018 9:17 pm

The power cut is really way beyond comprehension. These are small islands. Small cable trencher costs nothing. Getting some experts from Iceland costs nothing.

hunter
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 3:21 am

Please take time to look at a map of Puerto Rico.
It is a hilly, mountainous island from shore to shore. Trenching through the frequent solid rock extrusions is not so easy.

Reply to  hunter
April 21, 2018 1:11 pm

I’ve driven completely around PR, as well as bisected it through the mountains. While there are places as you described, mainly in the mountainous interior, most of the cities could be served by buried lines. In the other areas, just do the same as they do with their water and sewerage (you don’t think they’re handled by pole lines, do you?). Put the cables in steel pipes on the ground running alongside the roads.

GREY LENSMAN
April 20, 2018 9:39 pm

quote
It’s fun to see energy storage at work to respond to emergency situations like this one, but it’s now clear that Puerto Rico needs a better long-term solution to their energy grid problems.
https://electrek.co/2018/04/18/tesla-powerwall-powerpack-puerto-rico-blackout-elon-musk/
Unquote
Not fun for the million without

BillP
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 1:25 am

Perhaps the grid went down because of people drawing additional power to charge their Tesla Powerwalls and Powerpacks.

Boris
April 20, 2018 9:45 pm

The answer to supplying fossil fuels to these islands is to use LNG. I worked for a natural gas supplier and we had a proposal to supply Hawaii with LNG to get them off of Diesel and Bunker fuels used to fire the Steam, Reciprocating and Gas Turbine electrical generators. Unfortunately the governor changed during the last election cycle and the new governor David Ige cancelled the development contract and the installation of this fuel source. David Ige has stated that Hawaii will be going all renewable for their power source by 2045. Running Gas turbine generators on Diesel causes the unit to run at 95% of its name plate due to the temperature limits imposed by this fuel. Running Gas turbines on Bunker fuel can be done with larger units as used by Hawaiian Electric Company and Maui Electric Company but the units run at 85% of name plate output. Standing on Maui and looking at the black smoke coming from the exhaust stacks of these units you can see why they were built so high. It carries the smudge out to sea. I wish them luck attaining a reliable power supply from solar and windmills because when the wind did not blow and the sun goes down the turbines were ramped up to the maximum power output from 5:30 PM till 1:30 AM.

TA
Reply to  Boris
April 21, 2018 5:13 pm

“David Ige has stated that Hawaii will be going all renewable for their power source by 2045.”
It ought to be a crime to ruin the beautiful islands of Hawaii with ugly windmills.

GREY LENSMAN
April 20, 2018 10:04 pm

mmm, Hawaii is sitting on the worlds largest source of energy, Geothermal. Why import any?

steven F
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 1:29 am

The big island of Hawaii does have geothermal power.. However none of the other islands have it . the volcanoes on those islands died a long time ago and there is no geothermal heat available. You could lay power cables between the islands is possible but very expensive. So most import coal or oil to generate power. Residence of Hawaii pay $0.33 per KwHr.

Gamecock
Reply to  steven F
April 21, 2018 7:31 am

Since Haleakalā had eruptions within the last 400 years, I would expect there to be some geothermal potential on Maui.

Jon Jewett
April 20, 2018 10:07 pm

The Puerto Rican Government borrowed billions of dollars. “…. government’s outstanding debt exceeds $70 billion (in addition to $50 billion in pension obligations)”. What happened to that money? Maybe it is in those warehouses where the politicians put all of the disaster relief that came down from the mainland. Why isn’t Puerto Rico as rich and self sufficient as Singapore?

GREY LENSMAN
Reply to  Jon Jewett
April 20, 2018 10:25 pm

Singapore has no natural resources, it even imports potable water

tty
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 8:03 am

No, it imports non-potable water from Malaysia, purifies it and then re-exports part of it to Malaysia as potable water.

knr
April 21, 2018 12:21 am

The fun part is you have to turn the windmills off when there is ‘to much wind’

Derek Wood
April 21, 2018 2:16 am

It may indeed be very expensive to bury power lines. The point is though, that you only have to do it once.

GREY LENSMAN
Reply to  Derek Wood
April 21, 2018 2:49 am

They are all underground in Singapore

tty
Reply to  Derek Wood
April 21, 2018 8:05 am

A large and growing part is underground in Sweden too. And geological conditions here is if anything mor difficult than in Puerto Rico.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Derek Wood
April 23, 2018 9:13 am

@Derek
The cable life time is 1/2 to 1/4 of above ground. Heat dissipation is an issue, and the insulation degrades more quickly for buried lines. The higher the capacity, the tougher it is.

hunter
April 21, 2018 3:15 am

What increasing storms?
The smarmy climate creeps always have an excuse for the inevitable failure of their ideas.
The fact that the islands are over crowded, poor, and poorly maintained is not due to “climate change”. Puerto Rico’s grid failing prior to Maria had nothing to do with “climate change”.
But the climate creeps, when their scams and cons fail, never admit their “climste change” ideas coukd be wrong.
They just make up new words like “super storm” and then lie and say that “climate change” causes particular weather events.

Dave Ward
April 21, 2018 3:22 am

As others have said – it’s the distribution systems that are the weak link in tropical islands. Sort this out first, instead of wasting money on vulnerable solar panels and wind turbines. A large, stationary, diesel genset is not going to be blown away – or if it ever was there would be nothing left of any habitation! Even if the building it was installed in was destroyed, it’s unlikely that it would take much work to get one running again, and that can be accomplished with readily available tools and parts.

dudleyhorscroft
Reply to  Dave Ward
April 21, 2018 5:03 am

Large bulk carrier and tankers going for scrap have large diesel engines. While old, the structure is sound and the expense – apart from fuel – is largely in small replaceable parts such as piston rings. These, mounted on concrete blocks, could drive large alternators – or if a power take off is used to provide many power shafts, could drive many small alternators. There are plenty of marine engineers used to running these and maintaining them – many would jump at the chance of running a large Sulzer or BMW on a tropical island!

Auto
Reply to  dudleyhorscroft
April 21, 2018 4:00 pm

dudleyh
Plus many.
Perhaps four thousand [or so] sea-going ships are scrapped each year.
The engines [most are indeed diesel – very few steamships outside LNG Carriers] could certainly be used again.
And the hulls could make artificial reefs or breakwaters [albeit with a finite life.]
But as the nucleus of a ‘Reef’ – even for tourists – they have potential; fish farming, perhaps, too, in the void spaces of tankers, bulkers, and even box-boats.
And the accommodation blocks could be boutique hotels . . . .
Mind, victualing will need to improve for tourists.
And medical care, too, perhaps.
I have a shipmaster’s medical certificate [from about 1979 – ‘Instant Doctor; add warm water and stir’ –
but no ‘real’ doctor uis needed unless there are more than 100 seafarers, or 12 passengers . . . . .
Auto

GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 3:29 am

I still do not understand how batteries produce power, I am completely foxed by that one.

dudleyhorscroft
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 5:05 am

The power is “virtual power”. The sort of power you have when there is no power available.
You can put energy in and get about 80% out. Similar to a closed cycle hydro electric plant.

Gamecock
Reply to  dudleyhorscroft
April 21, 2018 7:33 am

But you have to have way more generation capacity to charge up the batteries. Only excess can be saved.

Coach Springer
April 21, 2018 5:56 am

Caribbean nations should also rely heavily on wind and solar to fuel their power plants – a dirty, expensive and unreliable way to produce energy.

ferdberple
April 21, 2018 6:37 am

How can you hope to fix a problem when you can’t talk about the problem? 90% of the countries on earth are shztholes because of corruption. Everyone in a position of authority is on the take and it is a miracle that anything gets done. However in the new PC environment you are not allowed to talk about corruption. You are immediately called a racist. As a result the problem is going to get much worse before it gets better.

April 21, 2018 6:39 am

“Climate change may scuttle Caribbean’s post-hurricane plans for a renewable energy boom
MASAŌ ASHTINE, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES, MONA CAMPUS
April 20, 2018 Updated: April 20, 2018 11:02am
Masaō Ashtine, University of the West Indies, Mona Campus

The dangerous fragility of Puerto Rico’s energy systems has put other Caribbean countries on high alert. Across the region, electric grids are dated, ailing and overburdened – making it easy work for a powerful passing storm.
Caribbean nations also rely heavily on oil and diesel imports to fuel their power plants – a dirty and expensive way to produce energy. So even before the 2017 hurricane season, Caribbean governments were trying to integrate renewable energy sources like wind and solar into their existing grids.”

Notice the author’s generic fatuous;y scary sentence immediately followed by a falsely descriptive fossil fuel sentence implying the two are linked.
That false fossil fuel descriptive portion, “dirty and expensive”, immediately exposes the writers prejudice and malicious anti-fossil fuel intentions.

“MASAŌ ASHTINE, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES, MONA CAMPUS
April 20, 2018 Updated: April 20, 2018 11:02am
Masaō Ashtine, University of the West Indies, Mona Campus

Unfortunately, I believe that climate change will also complicate the region’s transition toward renewable energy. The Caribbean is comprised of island nations, which are the world’s most vulnerable places when it comes to rising seas, changing weather patterns and other effects of global warming.”

“I believe”, explains all.
An absurd statement is Masao’s claim that “climate change will also complicate the region’s transition toward renewable energy”.
As Latitude mentions above, Puerto Rico is mountainous. A belief that rising seas endanger mountainous regions displays ignorance and delusional.
Masao is trying to infer that an imaginary “super storm” endangers Puerto Rico’s electrical generation infrastructure.
Which obscure the fact that Puerto Rico’s energy infrastructure is destroyed by normal common storms.
Masao’s words also obscure the fact that land intensive renewable energy systems are the most vulnerable energy generation equipment to ordinary storm systems.
Sleight of hand word play typical of scam artists and snake oil salespeople.

“MASAŌ ASHTINE, UNIVERSITY OF THE WEST INDIES, MONA CAMPUS
April 20, 2018 Updated: April 20, 2018 11:02am
Masaō Ashtine, University of the West Indies, Mona Campus

Installing more wind, solar and hydropower – the world’s most reliable and common renewable energy options – would seem to be a more obvious step in the right direction. Between 2015 and 2016, the global capacity of these green power sources rose 9 percent – nearly half of which comes from the widespread adoption of solar panels.”

More sleight of hand word play!
Hydropower is an extremely reliable and common source of energy generation. Lumping wind and solar along with hydropower destroys that reliability and common claim.
Another indication that Masao is operating solely upon belief, not facts.
Then there is that last sentence about solar power provision towards an increase in renewable power.
A statement that fails to recognize one of “renewable energy’s” dirty secrets.
That most of that alleged increase is dependent upon civilian installed solar power infrastructure; a vast majority of which are proven water heating systems, not electricity generation.
Nor does Masao’s renewables statement recognize that official and commercial advocates for renewable energy use those civilian installations, without official tracking mechanism, to derive their substantial annual increased energy levels.
Estimated official and unofficial stats that willfully ignore:
• end of life cycle installations,
• unmaintained installations,
• broken or unrepaired installations,
• or that hot water systems do not increase energy generation year over year.

john
April 21, 2018 6:55 am

Boston Globe jumps shark…
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/04/20/seas-rise-pilgrim-mulls-moving-its-nuclear-waste-higher-ground/rcrkilSqo4cGpfledFyrJJ/story.html
GE designed both Fukushima AND Pilgrim. They also make flaming wind turbines and exploding jet engines.
So, Pilgrim will be underwater, yet GE moved their HQ to THE BOSTON WATERFRONT (which flooded several times during noreasters this winter/spring). Will they be moving again??? Or will they lift the huge complex higher?

john
Reply to  john
April 21, 2018 7:02 am
Editor
April 21, 2018 7:58 am

I have recently spent a couple of years in Puerto Rico (before the hurricane). PR has central mountains over 3,000 feet and the El Yunque National Forest is even higher.
Additional hydro dams would supply electricity and potable water to the major cities, most of which are nominally at sea level.
Most other Caribbean Islands are too small and do not have adequate elevation for much hydro power. Trinidad, near South America, is an exception.
Pumped hydro, using solar to power the pumps, is a reasonable approach for islands with adequate elevations and land area to make it feasible.

tty
Reply to  Kip Hansen
April 21, 2018 8:13 am
Editor
Reply to  tty
April 21, 2018 1:02 pm

The Canary Islands do not have quite the right physical conditions for a solar-pumped-hydro system. They seem to be pumping aquifer water to a storage reservoir, then running it downhill to another reservoir. Besides, they are using wind….wind has a lousy record of achieving engineered goals.
PR could pump sea water up to a sea water lake, and flow it back into the ocean — and farm fish up top. Solar is pretty dependable in PR — and a sufficient volume high lake would suffice.

Meigs
April 21, 2018 8:45 am

It’s clear that PR fossil plants being down for so long reduced global CO2 concentration leading to cold weather in the NE US and other places…

Grant
April 21, 2018 8:56 am

So the place with a 45% poverty rate should have expensive electricity forced upon them. Puerto Rico’s reduction of CO2 will have 0 impact on climate but a dramatic negative impact on their lives. Happy Earth Day!

GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 9:11 am
tty
Reply to  GREY LENSMAN
April 21, 2018 10:33 am

Hydroelectric power, where feasible, is almost always the best way to generate electricity. The original investment cost may be high but once finished it is extremely reliable and stable, can be adjusted up and down very quickly and requires very little maintenance.
And in one of the rainiest places in the World building anything else would be plain stupidity.

April 21, 2018 10:30 am

I propose a new word — deludeite n. any member of the class of alarmists who delude themselves into believing that CO2 is pollution and that advancements in energy technology can be equaled by prematurely eliminating those advancements, in order to stop CO2 pollution.

Charlie Bates
April 21, 2018 2:13 pm

Historically, places that were too expensive or dangerous to remain habitable were simply abandoned. The mythical Category Six storms would make that inevitable.

jclarke341
April 21, 2018 2:36 pm

Is there any difference between ‘Climate Superstorms’ and what we have traditionally called hurricanes? No. Not in this context. If you put ‘Hurricanes’ in the title in place of ‘Climate Superstorms’ the threat to renewables is unchanged. We don’t need the climate to change to make windmills and solar panels a stupid idea for the Caribbean Islands.
Of course, the predictions of stronger hurricanes, or ‘climate superstorms’ has already been falsified by the measurement of frequency and energy of tropical cyclones for the last 48 years. There is no correlation between increasing CO2 and tropical frequency or intensity. If anything, there seems to be a slight reverse correlation – cyclone frequency and accumulated cyclone energy have been trending slightly down since the mid-1990s, as CO2 has increased rapidly.
http://wx.graphics/tropical/