By Thomas Lifson at American Thinker
The increase in the atmospheric trace gas of CO2 has so far failed to deliver the catastrophic consequences predicted by the alarmists like Al Gore. The headlines about “the end of snow” are now an embarrassment after a winter of abundant frozen precipitation. At least a decade ago, the fraudsters relabeled their purported peril “climate change,” allowing any unusual weather to be blamed on mankind’s use of fossil fuels.
Now another rebranding is being proposed. Michael Walsh noticed, at PJ Media:
The Left, in the form of the think thank RAND, has gone full Luddite:
Since the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, society has organized efforts to limit the magnitude of climate change around the concept of stabilization – that is, accepting some climate change but holding it within acceptable bounds. This report offers an initial exploration of the concept of climate restoration – that is, approaches that seek to return atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases to preindustrial levels within one to two generations. Using a simple integrated assessment model, the analysis examines climate restoration through the lens of risk management under conditions of deep uncertainty, exploring the technology, economic, and policy conditions under which it might be possible to achieve various climate restoration goals and the conditions under which society might be better off with (rather than without) a climate restoration goal. This report also explores near-term actions that might help manage the risks of climate restoration.
“Luddite” is a good term, for it connotes opposition to the Industrial Revolution, which was (and remains in its “Information Age” version) dependent on the combustion of carbon-based fuels for electrical generation and transportation. The longing for some imagined paradise of living in harmony with nature is even more pervasive in modern history.
Of course, anyone even slightly familiar with the history of the Earth’s climate knows there is no one climate to be restored. We have had ice ages that covered much of the land on which Americans now live in glaciers. Is that the climate we wish to be restored?
Proponents claim they merely want to get rid of the “pollutants” – i.e., CO2, which is necessary for life and is used by plants to grow. (Higher levels of atmospheric CO2 already are increasing crop yields.) But buried in this phraseology is the hidden assumption that the atmosphere, not solar activity, controls climate. This is a ridiculous assumption on its face, since the ultimate source of our energy – atmospheric and carbon-based deposits – is the Sun.
By the way, solar activity is crashing now.
“Climate restoration” is the “New Coke” of climate alarmism.
I suggest we restore the MWP prevailing climate when European tree lines were much higher.
So what we have to do is grab the tree line and hoick it up a bit?
“Climate restoration”??? Man, those folks are getting desperate …
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Onward! Into the past.
The Same as it never was….
Well, the existence of time as a separate dimension is an assumption that is consistent with. The linearity and directionality of “time” is an assumption that is consistent with. The progression (i.e. monotonic change) of “time” and evolution of matter is an assumption that is consistent with. Our “scientific” (i.e. circumstantial) and mythical (i.e. historical) beliefs about origin (e.g. spontaneous conception, reproductive succession) are consistent with. We live our lives in the scientific logical domain (i.e. limited frame of reference), but there is nary a human that does not speculate to the edge of our solar system and beyond.
nn Can you speak plain English for us morons please?
Pre industrial levels…Wasn’t that 280 ppm?
Since 280ppm is insufficient to grow sufficient quantities of the needed food supply to feed the current 7.5bn populace, I guess their intention is to have >60% of the world population starve to death. Really UNcaring ANTIsocial people.
We just need to return the population levels to the pre-industrial levels. The process will essentially drive the economic levels down backwards and the life expectancy will drop accordingly as well.
Heck we’ll all become Amish and drive around in horse carriages. Of course all those Thee’s and Thy’s would have to go.
280 ppm would be very risky for an interglacial, as the amount would drop way below that figure during the next ice age, possibly leading to mass CO2 starvation of plants.
Obviously. This is New Age hippie spirituality dressed up as science.
They do not have the facts, just the irrational desire for…’simpler’ times.
Okay, given we’re a ‘stone age’ species and modern life can be a bit stressful, but still doesn’t excuse Luddism. Certainly doesn’t excuse lies.
Ironically for a group that likes to throw around the label of ‘Climate Denier’, their major issue has always is that they are fundamentally conservative in nature. They’ve hitched their wagon onto the climate because fear of change for them goes as naturally with the environment as it does human civilization, but fundamentally I suspect it’s just an irrational fear of modern life, society & civilization.
Still, understanding their fears does not justify them. Certainly doesn’t justify bad science and doom-mongering. Even in a climate without human involvement at all, if we just…popped out of existence, the climate changes. WE understand this. We also understand on human time scales that change is largely benign, manageable, and a fact of life regardless. In the Alarmist’s fear of change however, they support policies and projects which could actually make things worse for ourselves.
We can’t return to ‘simpler times’. It’s not going to happen. Not without a lot of anarchy & violent scary change that will cause much suffering and ultimately for no gain.
Anyway, Alarmism is an interface of the greedy who know better, and the useful fools with honest intentions but flawed perspectives & understanding. We perhaps can’t realistically do much about the knowingly greedy, but we can hopefully enlighten the confused and scared. Perhaps.
Just got to keep stating the truth and hope Alarmism eventually & finally goes away, as the next pseudo-scientific fad comes into vogue.
Shouldn’t “Greenhouse Effect!” top that list?
The lies, deceit, misinformation, and alarmism are catching up.
If it was real they would not have to keep renaming it to try and make it seem less laughable.
“Oh look, the Emporer has a new panties on!”
Irritable climate syndrome…
Latitude,
Just perfect!!
Good one!!
Climate Restoration As Policy
Crap recycling as policy
Now they are attempting to replicate the good will Conservation used to own.
Somehow, “climate restoration” has neither the proper image or succinct message of benefit.
“Climate restoration” smacks of climate desperation.
The belief that the sun is ultimately responsible for all the long-term changes in climate seems to be as strong and unsupported as the idea that CO2 is. I can almost hear Leif Svalgaard sighing in resignation from across the Atlantic.
Very few skeptics are definitely saying it is the sun. Most skeptics keep an open mind. However they all know it isnt CO2.
I don’t know that it isn’t CO2. I only know that there is zero evidence that it is CO2. There appears to be a warming trend that extends back to at least 1800 A.D. and the so-called anthropogenic CO2 fingerprint does not raise its head above that line. No way! No how!
All efforts to establish the facts as otherwise are created out of whole cloth by activists masquerading as scientists or politicians trying to create phony issues to surf on for the sake of their ambitions. Creeps, charlatans and Socialist fools, sometimes combining multiples of those tragic character faults!
It is getting colder now, as many have predicted on the understanding a that we are in a cyclical peak that is probably similar to the Medieval Warm period and/or Roman Warm period and/or the Minoan Warm period. The imitation scientists who run around screaming that the sky is falling and the so-called science is settled have no idea whatsoever what caused these earlier warm episodes. They take the utterly dishonest approach that they didn’t happen when there is ample evidence that they did!
So, if the plan is to restore the climate to preindustrial levels, which preindustrial age should we restore the climate to ? How about when CO2 levels were as high as 6,000 ppm ? Or how about the last ice age ?
They forgot Gorebull warming.
Carbon Based Life Form yearns to throttle the Carbon Cycle of Life?
They’re a bit late. All the spare Climate Change cash has been use up on Carbon Trading…
What amazes me is that many using their smart phone, their tablet, their laptop, etc don’t understand how such technology came about in the first place or why. As some scream to save the planet from the evils of carbon, as they troll blogs, they really don’t have a clue how much energy is required to produce and run the systems they are using. Some are of course convinced it can all be done by wind and solar though certainly no nuclear or hydro which they believe are both obviously extremely evil.
Climate Restoration is the beneign sounding goal to justify Geoengineering a not-so-beneign sounding word that requires much money.
The folks I worked with at RAND are hardly leftists. Need to rethink that part of the story. Next you’ll tell us that the Aerospace Corporation and MITRE are leftist?
The times they are a changing. Many companies that you think would lean right are now full of resource departments infested with Social Justice Warriors. Most likely since you have retired things have gone down the tubes but I would have no way of knowing if it is true of RAND. It is however, happening all across corporate America.
Dinosaur restoration is the next step.
Now that would be a Jurassic Flop
How about the term “Climate Absolution”?
We could all buy “CO2 pardons, hot from Rome” – from Pope AlGore the First.
Chaucer saw through this scam – and so should we.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/02/01/pope-francis-apparently-doesnt-know-ipcc-climate-objective-contradicts-catholic-doctrine/#comment-1849580
The Canterbury Tales – The Pardoner’s Tale
‘Nay, nay,’ quod he, ‘than have I Cristes curs!
Lat be,’ quod he, ‘it shal nat be, so theech!
Thou woldest make me kisse thyn old breech,
And swere it were a relik of a seint,
Thogh it were with thy fundement depeint!
But by the croys which that seint Eleyne fond,
I wolde I hadde thy coillons in myn hond
In stede of relikes or of seintuarie;
Lat cutte hem of, I wol thee helpe hem carie;
Thay shul be shryned in an hogges tord.’
Surely we should all purchase “climate indulgences” from Pope AlGore to rescue us from “climate purgatory” and get us to “climate heaven”..
“Carbon Offsets” are the current eco-indulgences, but only the correct “approved offsets” are legit. All other environmentalism is heresy, traife, haram …
How about “Climate Renovation”… Or “Climate Remodeling”… Or “Climate Spring Cleaning”… I got it! “Climate Spa Day.”
climate makeover…….the sequel to this old climate
+100
Good one, Lat!
Jim
Climate refinancing, more likely.
I suggest ………. “AGW Flagellants”.
“…Flatulents”
I am always interested in knowing what is the perfect decade we need to aim for that was free of mans influence and that we need to restore.
Surely not many ‘pre industrial’ decades as there were very many cold periods and I doubt if enough food could be grown in these cold conditions for our approaching 9 billion population. That is without even examining where we would get the energy from.
so, what is the ‘optimum’ decade?
tonyb
So many potential HGTV program ideas I don’t know where to start.
It’s an effort to make Climate, great again.
“…approaches that seek to return atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases to preindustrial levels within one to two generations.”
I believe we are well on our way. The primary greenhouse gas is water vapor and when it’s cold, there is less of it in the atmosphere. So when the globe cools… Victory!
Paul Atreides: This is part of the weirding way that we will teach you. Some thoughts have a certain sound, that being the equivalent to a form. Through sound and motion, you will be able to paralyze nerves, shatter bones, set fires, suffocate an enemy or burst his organs. We will kill until no Harkonnen breathes Arrakeen air.
I guess that’s one way to improve the atmosphere.
Let’s work on restoring logic, reason, and the rule of law first.
Increasing atmospheric CO2 from 0.03% to 0.05% is not a threat to anything.
Conversely, the planetary flora flourishes with higher atmospheric CO2 content!
Earth is restoring a more abundant biosphere… Win – Win!
Nobody in power wants to do that!
The primary motivations toward power are first, POWER – then, RICHES. The RICHES can only be accumulated through SCAMS, which can only go unpunished through ABUSE of POWER; therefore, every 1%er seeks to perpetuate the game, so his followers leave the table in their turn with enough skeletons in their closet that they don’t dare come after HIS riches, lest theirs be endangered.
” The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me”
George Orwell, 1984
It’s Whack-a-Mole time again!
Version 349,412,309 and counting.
I vote for a climate that is warm and dry in the fall, cool and dry in the winter, warm and rainy in the spring and hot, humid and wet in the summer.
………LOL
Climate restoration, huh?
Okay, well, it would help a lot if the larger percentage of them that follow this line of “thought” (and I use that word loosely) took the time to stop breathing for about 15 minutes. That rather large volume of CO2 produced by such a large population group could, if rescinded by cessation of respiration for 15 minutes, clear the air and restore an O2 balance…. or something like that.
I also suggest that they be persuaded to spend a good deal of time in the company of professional listeners. Throwing all those electronic doodads into a bin for a month or more would likewise help.
Sara, maybe I missed it but I am surprised that the CAGW crowd hasn’t gone on about the amount of CO2 produced by 7+ billion people. They have gone on about domestic ungulates and the methane they produce even though at one point in earth’s history wild ungulates probably far out number all the domestic ones that exist today.
That’s exactly what I was addressing, Edwin. If they just stop breathing – all of them – for 15 minutes twice a day, the carbon load in the atmosphere, an invisible gas which terrifies them beyond any reasoning, will be reduced to a mere whisper.
I do not think that 15 minutes of not breathing, done twice a day, is too much to ask of them if they truly want to make a sacrifice that will benefit the planet.
Just think of all those greenies jogging and exercising, raising heart rate and increased breathing rate.
Oh, the extra CO2!
Now we know who the real climate change deniers are.
hmmm… Climate Reformation perhaps … “climate science” is a religion isn’t it?
Cheers!
Joe
I so look forward to plague, small pox, mass starvation, cannabalism (why not?), typhus and cholera becoming a regular part of my life thanks to climate restoration.
You forgot dysentery and salmonella.
Such fun was life pre-industrial.
We should all purchase “climate indulgences” from Pope AlGore to rescue us from “climate purgatory” and get us to “climate heaven”.
The trick, of course, whether you believe in the snakeoil or not, is to find a way to get onto the capitalization gravy train yourself. There are tens? hundreds?-of-thousands of both direct researchers and indirect so-called “policy makers” who are on the gravy train in one form or another. From climate amelioration officers filling (not working) phony baloney positions in companies who desperately need to SOUND like they’re on the Lıberal Rightside of thinking, to gazillions of wannabe soft-science undergraduates, to just-as-many just-as-soft science Masters degree and PhD candidates … to endless focus groups, think tanks, lobbyists, lıberal leaning organizations … the gravy train is LONG. Long, and while crowded, still always in need of fuel.
“Climate restoration” is the newest self-styled eco-warrior “we can fight!” call to arms. Save a tree, eat a beaver. You know. Do stuff.
Do stuff to get tens of thousands – perhaps hundreds of thousands – of young impressionable minds and their stretch-funded parents to cough up the tuition to have them get soft-as-silk pseudoscience degrees. Or pseudo intellectual disease. The same.
I am admittedly in a sour mood. Sour that mankind is such a fûqueing delusional self-pitying creature. Sour that all excuses for a few of our population insist on having moral authority to domineer the rest of us. Go separate your fûqueing garbage! Turn off your lights! Buy a Prius! How dare you own a truck? Use biodiesel! Don’t eat non-organic anything, or feed the school kids peanut butter sandwiches!
GoatGuy
given they cannot even agree to when the industrial period started and given they no measurement of these value worth a dam from virtual any date the pick, this is going to be quite a trick.
The Midwest got into the pilot program for “climate restoration”. Someone restored our climate back to the 1970’s. Six weeks of 20+ degrees below our average highs, with some daily highs not even reaching the average low.
I am not a fan of this restoration. And don’t even get me started on platform shoes, disco, and Jimmy Carter’s economic policies! Bring back the good NEW days.
You left out the hair style, Russ. The hair was to the max!
I want out of the pilot program! Warm up for cripes sake.
They need to work on “real” problems that “can” be solved with truckloads of money.
Enjoying a global warming day down here in Florida after freezing my butt off this winter in Kentucky. Where is Al Gore these days?, on an island that was supposed to be under water by now? LOL
Another commonly heard quip comes to mind “The road to Hêll is paved with Good Intentions”
Couple that with “The master of Good is Best” and
“Never underestimate the gullibility of a Religious Man” and you have quite a thing.
It explains a lot.
GoatGuy
So, “climate” seems to mean CO2, as far as I can tell. NOTHING else defines climate, apparently.
Why not just cut to the chase, then? — “CO2 Restoration Because Nothing Else Matters” (CORBNEM, for short)
Then we can have CORBNEM activistis, CORBNEM deniers. We can shorten the name of the IPCC to IPC. The possibilities are many. What a refreshing facelift for the industry !
Hmmm. The U.S. is experiencing climate reversion already as winter lingers with a lot of snow and ice. This climate-restoration-to-preindustrial-times thing will surely not be popular, as few seem to be cheering our preview of it.
When I first heard that the climate alarmists did not factor in the energy from the sun in their models, I was dump founded. As the article stated that is the single greatest factor and to think it is consistent over time is naive. These people are not scientists but political operatives.
Surely the Holocene Climate Optimum is the obvious climate to restore.
But how are we going to cause that much warming?
Climate Restoration????
To What???
I wasn’t aware there was a climate baseline. Where should the baseline be set back to?
Oh man, this is stupid. The stupid is starting to get to me. The stupid is painful. Why do people constantly insist on being so stupid, gullible and easily brainwashed.
Engage Climate Stabilizers number one! prepare for ‘Climate Restoration’.
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Excellent analogy. I would presume that the climate stabilizers operate along the lines of the anti-inertia force compensator and the artificial gravity system.
More likely a bunch squirrel-baits spinning their wheels.
Not to forget the Heisenberg compensators.
Too bad Sir Patrick is a looney Leftist himself. The Climate Borg assimilated him,… or was it that little gill sticking out of his neck that did it? Or maybe that silly virtual game Ryker brought onboard?
Either way, Sir Patrick is a lost cause. Gave up his brains he did to keep getting Hollywood scripts.
So now they actually believe (or claim to believe) that lowering CO2 will somehow change the weather patterns we are living with.
So with any deterioration in weather, crop yields, coastal erosion, etc. we can go after the ass clowns who are even now blaming American oil companies.
And in the next chapter of “Call to Climate Arms”, we will find suggestions – nay, instructions! from the Pope of Climatewarmingoogling Algorebull Himself, calling for – wait for it! – the Climate Crusades!!!!
Arm thyselves, Good People of the Climate Crusades! Prepare ye the War of The Warm!! Prepare ye the War of The Warm!
Sounds like a musical to me. I saw one like that in the 1970s in Philadelphia. “Godspell”, it was.
This one will be “Gorespiel”.
Climealot?
Warmalot.
Zeilate?
No, I’ll stick to warmunists
These people are seriously trying to kill us. All carbon based life: plants; animals; us and even sad to say it them depend on it. Honestly, it’s like some sort of suicide cult. How did we end up with so many supposedly well educated idiots wandering around?
They were educated in the “propaganda schools”. They were taught to memorize. Problem solving was 80% part of math. They [deep state globalists] removed problem solving from math.
Well, here we are! Lead by the “memorize-rs”, by definition “the PAST”. Yes, lead to the future by the past..
PERFECT
Great. Restore the climate to the 1650s.
That made the USA uninhabitable.
These people think Camelot is based in the future
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“Climate Restoration”.
I’m surprised they’ve never used “Climate Deformation”.
“But buried in this phraseology is the hidden assumption that the atmosphere, not solar activity, controls climate. ”
Gee, I could have sworn the atmosphere had something to do with it. You learn something new every day!
You are right Kristi the atmosphere does control the climate. The sun is the heat source. However CO2 only acts as a carrier of life. It needs to recycle everywhere so that the plants can get it or we all die. The atmosphere needs more CO2 NOT less. There has been NO evidence of CO2 causing any warming. And even if it did the warming seems to be so minimal as to be laughable. I got the temperature records for the last 146 years for the city of Ottawa Canada daily lows and daily highs. I put the data into a spreadsheet and graphed the data 7 years at a time. i compared the 7 year periods throughout the whole 146 history and found NO warming. So if global warming was or is supposed to be happening but it is not happening in Ottawa Canada why do I care? I also looked at the temperature records for Augusta Georgia since 1935 when the Masters golf tournament started. There is no warming in those records. 10 of the 13 stations in the Antarctica have seen no warming for their 60 year history of temperature records. The other 3 stations are in the West Antarctica peninsula which is overtop a volcanic ridge and it melts from underneath just like Greenland does and has been like that for millions of years. Dr Willie Soon compiled temperature data from all the rural areas in the world. There was no warming. CO2 is a well mixed gas everywhere in the lower troposphere. Physics says that if it causes warming it should cause warming everywhere especially in a long term trend. if 146 years isnt long enuf for you how long do we have to wait for global warming? I have been waiting for it for 40 years and havent seen it yet. I grew up in the days when facts mattered. Things seem to be different nowadays. We need more CO2 NOT less.
Well Lord only knows that our climate is a very big part of the worlds cultural heritage and it is high time someone began the painstaking process of restoration. Like the Sistine Chapel frescoes, there are cracks and fissures in the plaster of our climate and it just doesn’t look good hanging on a wall in a museum any longer. It is way past time for climate restoration.
What about Climate Justice
Climate restoration is just another term for geoengineering. The greenies know that China and India won’t stop emitting CO2 so they think that by geoengineering the atmosphere they can take CO2 out of the atmosphere. That plan is genocidal suicide and is the worst madness ever thought of. We need more CO2 NOT less. i have actually become scared of the whole greenie philosophy. It is madness on the grandest of scales.
Has anyone calculated the cubic tons per day of carbon dioxide absorbed by plants on a global scale? The more CO2, the more plant life and plant cover we have, and since plants not only release O2 into the atmosphere, but also water vapor through the tops of these fine chlorophyll-laden atmosphere cleaners, well – the more plant cover, the higher the water load in the atmosphere, which should increase rainfall in many, many, many areas that NEED it.
Okay, rant over. I have difficulty with the voluminous lack of understanding by the Warmians/CAGWers/Greenbeans of basic biology/botany and how important this symbiotic relationship is for life to exist.
Are these ignoramuses trying to destroy this planet? Because that is what seems to be their entire intent – kill off everything so that we have a Mad Max desert world.
This is called “carbon cycle”, “agronomy” and “photosynthesis” , and of course this is seriously (not “climate science” way) studied, crops depend on it.
You can begin with Wikipedia, although warmunist colonized the “carbon cycle” article
So the “climate restorers” want to go back to the 19th century when there were no cars or planes emitting CO2 into the air, but even then there were railroads (which burned coal to make steam), and the blast furnaces used to make steel were coal-fired. So let’s go back to the 18th century, when there were no railroads and no steel, and everything moved at the speed of horses, and people burned candles to see in the dark after sunset, since there were no electric lights.
So let’s imagine a city like New York, with its cars and subways replaced by millions of horse-drawn carriages. Where would they get the hay and oats to feed all those horses? Ship it in from the countryside on horse-drawn carts? Then imagine all those horses relieving themselves in the streets–who would clean up all that horse manure? If it washed into the gutters after a heavy rain, wouldn’t that be a breeding area for infectious diseases? Wouldn’t decomposing horse manure produce methane, which would also heat up the climate 20 times more than the same mass of CO2? Besides which, horses also exhale CO2, whether or not they’re pulling a cart.
City streets are a lot cleaner with people riding cars and subways than riding the same number of horses!
Let’s see what the dictionary tells us:
Restoration from Old French and Latin “restauration”
“the event in British history when Charles II was made king in 1660 after a period in which there was no king or queen.
I get it, when there is no king or queen, Charles the III will take the throne and the crown. He’s against carbon but he talks to his plants all day. Clearly they don’t talk back. What will these global warming elites think of next.
Well…… Maybe they DO talk back to Prince Charles. Maybe HE can hear them.them
Our children won’t know what global warming is!
ROFL
As a believer in a “Supreme Being”, it is my opinion that humans were put on this earth in order to restore carbon dioxide to levels best suited to the continuation of life for the long term. At 280 ppm, the level of this life giving trace gas came perilously close to the 180 ppm at which plants die. At 400 ppm, the approximate current level of carbon dioxide, we are less than half way to the level at which most plant thrive, which is about 1,000 ppm. Only a specie with a brain could have developed strategies to recirculate this important life giving gas back into the atmosphere.
“Riding the gravy train”, Pink Floyd, “Have a cigar”.
We do not need to worry. The current interglacial period cannot last much longer but it still may be thousands of years before the next ice age takes hold. But the coming ice age may not last much more than 100,000 years before another interglacial period takes hold. At least the current interglacial period has not been as warm as the previous one. Exactly what climate do they wish to restore.
According to the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, one should conclude that the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rational the the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. Mankind has been unable to change one weather event let alone change the climate. So the big question is what climate does one wish to restore and how can we force the sun and the oceans to provide the desired climate.
Ah, one has to admire the hold TheMagicMolecule has over the weak-minded Left.
The Luddites were not anti technology and they did not harken back to some mystical better time. They fought against the deskilling of the workforce. They lost that battle and apparently also lost the right to historical accuracy in how they are portrayed. Luuddites had nothing in common with the looney toons who want a colder world with less life on it. How about the followers of Koba the Dread as a historical analog? Stalin collectivized the farms which destroyed agricultural production, he started five year plans which destroyed industrial production, he signed a peace treaty with Hitler and then murdered most of his senior officers just before the war started. The ability to never see the flaws in a failing system must surely be a trait of communists. Warmunists it is.
“At least a decade ago, the fraudsters relabeled their purported peril “climate change,” allowing any unusual weather to be blamed on mankind’s use of fossil fuels.”
wrong.
the theory was first called the carbon dioxide theory of climate change in 1955.
and when the ipcc was formed…it was called the ipcc… not the ipgw.
increased warming is one aspect of climate change, but climate is more than temperature.
there are good skeptical arguments. the claim that global warning was renamed to climate change is factually wrong.
ffs.. ipcc. its in the name.
It’s true that ‘climate change’ is in the name, but the concept was initially sold to the public as global warming, and this was in stark contrast to the prior fears of global cooling and the ‘imminent ice age’. What’s happened lately is that the global warming core of the climate change idea is mostly implied rather than stated. This leaves the alarmists with a conveniently vague term ‘climate change’ which could mean just about anything, and leads to absurdities such as governments proposing to ‘fight climate change’. One wonders if these idiots care whether or not their statements actually have any useful meaning.
err no. The concept was not “sold” as global warming. Like I said, since 1955 it has been known and described as climate change. Global “cooling”. another red herring.
cliamte change is not vague. just read the science.
I think you are both right, and that doesn’t matter at all.
whether this is called “global warming” or “climate change”, this is just the latest rebranded “let save the world” usual band. Let’s call it the Fifth International.
through the lens of risk management under conditions of deep uncertainty, exploring the technology, economic, and policy conditions
If they had one risk management member of the team they would have been told that the risk is low with high impact. Therefore, RoI is poor. Not worth worrying about
From the article: “Since the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, society has organized efforts to limit the magnitude of climate change around the concept of stabilization – that is, accepting some climate change but holding it within acceptable bounds.”
Hubris.
“restoration” … as in 1660? 1815?
Restorationism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism ?
Well, at least it make them show their reactionary faces, those so called “progressives”
Counter brand it as white privilege trying to keep POC around the world down, and you will have these guys scurrying.