Icelandic President: Stop Joking about Global Warming

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The President of Iceland is concerned that his people don’t seem to be taking global warming seriously.

In Iceland, global warming no longer a joke: president

Sophie Hares

MARCH 11, 2018

PLAYA DEL CARMEN, Mexico (Thomson Reuters Foundation) – Icelanders have long joked that global warming was something people on the chilly Nordic island could look forward to, but as ice caps and glaciers melt at record speeds, that gag is wearing thin, according to the country’s president.

The common joke in Iceland is to say that on this cold and windy, rain-swept island, global warming is something we should cheer for – but it’s no longer funny,” Johannesson told the Thomson Reuters Foundation in an interview.

“Climate change affects us all on this globe, but you can see the effects in particular in the northern regions – the ice cap around the North Pole is melting at record rates, the oceans there are getting warmer,” he said.

On the flip side, climate change could bring some economic benefits to the country of just 340,000 people, which would become a natural trade hub if new routes opened up from Asia to the Atlantic due to melting Arctic ice, he said.

Johannesson was speaking on the sidelines of the World Ocean Summit in the Mexican resort of Playa del Carmen on Friday, where environmentalists, politicians and business leaders met to discuss how to improve the state of the oceans.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iceland-climatechange-environment/in-iceland-global-warming-no-longer-a-joke-president-idUSKCN1GM0O4

I wonder if any of the climate scientists or politicians who attended the Playa del Carmen event also attended the “Cities and Climate Change” event earlier this month in snowy Edmonton? Or was the Edmonton conference an entirely separate group of climate scientists and politicians?

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Doug
March 12, 2018 3:08 am

This winter has been downright brutal. If I could only get a free trip to Mexico during winter….sigh

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Doug
March 12, 2018 4:55 am

That raises the question of how many trips to Mexican beaches can you generate from the U.S. portion of funding to the Paris Agreement?

kenji
Reply to  Doug
March 12, 2018 5:41 am

I’ll tell him what’s not funny … the Murder rate in Mexico. Particularly in tourist hot spots like Puerto Vallarta. It’s all due to drug dealers, who aren’t the least bit bothered by “talk” of global warming. In fact, it seems to be increasing their crops.

ZThomm
Reply to  kenji
March 12, 2018 2:04 pm

Narco-crime has also become an issue in Cancun.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  kenji
March 12, 2018 4:12 pm

Mexico is a failed state. They have more important issues to concern themselves with (Ex:drug crime) than to worry about a non problem like AGW.

MarkW
Reply to  kenji
March 13, 2018 6:56 am

Is there any Spanish colony that managed to transition to a viable country?

Ted Getzel
Reply to  kenji
March 13, 2018 8:07 pm

Chile

Bill Powers
Reply to  Doug
March 12, 2018 10:12 am

Career Opportunities abound in Climate Scientology Doug. Contact you local Community College for further details.

hunter
March 12, 2018 3:11 am

The devil hates to be mocked.

Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 4:00 am

Bingo, hunter.
Everyone downthread who says the climate cultists have no sense of humor, a cliché I’ve been guilty of myself, has it backwards—they’re hypersensitive to humor. Sure, they’ve never told a joke in their entire redundant existences, because wit makes them uncomfortable, but they’ve never missed a joke either—which is more than can be said for certain demographics! *cough* climate infidels *cough*. Calling believalists oblivious to comedy is like saying migraine sufferers have no sense of light and sound.
I don’t believe in coincidences. The fact that Johanesson is Icelandic for Jorge of Burgos is a conspiracy, not a coincidence.

hunter
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 6:00 am

lol.
Martin Luther should have shared a mug or six of ale with you.
Perhaps a climate infidel could write a “Screwtape Letters” of advice from a senior climate scientist to a young post grad aspiring to climatological greatness…..

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 7:53 am

@hunter;
Oh, if I only had the wit!

Latitude
Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 5:29 am

Even Scientific American is mocking them…..now
Should We Chill Out about Global Warming?
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/should-we-chill-out-about-global-warming/

WR
March 12, 2018 3:13 am

“I’m super super serial”, he said while disembarking from his private jet, margarita in hand.
Do these people have no shame?

hunter
Reply to  WR
March 12, 2018 3:42 am

Do climate profiteers and extremists have any shame?
No.

Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 4:22 am

They’re shamelessly chutzpaceous. Forensic anatomists tell us that climate warriors have abnormally, six-sigma high rates of polycholecystia. Stephen Schneider was found to have three gall bladders, the organ that secretes both bile and audacity. One of them weighed more than his brain.

tty
March 12, 2018 3:19 am

I wonder where he found that ice-cap around the North Pole? Nobody else has ever seen it.
By the way if any country would benefit from less sea-ice it is Iceland. “Ice-years” when the sea-ice surrounded Iceland have alway been calamitous.
Incidentally Iceland is also immune from any sea-level rise due to melting icecaps since the self-gravity effect of the Greenland ice-cap greatly outweighs sea-level rise there:comment image
(LINK?) MOD

Phil R
Reply to  tty
March 12, 2018 4:56 pm

Not sure I’ve ever heard the term, “self-gravity?” I think you mean isostatic rebound.

MarkW
Reply to  Phil R
March 13, 2018 6:58 am

I thought he was talking about all of the glaciers on Greenland increasing the gravity so that it pulled sea water towards it.
As the ice melts, the gravity decreases and the bulge shrinks.
Thus his claim that Iceland would not see a sea level rise even if Greenland’s glaciers all melted.
The increasing sea level would be canceled out by the decreasing bulge.

Trebla
March 12, 2018 3:20 am

I think these clowns could use a little sense of humour.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Trebla
March 12, 2018 3:38 am

Their sense of humor was removed along with their self-awareness.

hunter
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 12, 2018 3:43 am

Humorectomies are a pre-requisite to becoming a full fledged extremist.

paqyfelyc
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 12, 2018 3:49 am

and shamectomy is a prerequisite for political job (and that includes presidenct of Iceland, of course)

michael hart
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 12, 2018 1:29 pm

Hey, if he had any shame, maybe he wouldn’t dress to look like a war-criminalcomment image
Or maybe he does have a sense of humor.

Reply to  Trebla
March 12, 2018 4:12 am

See my reply to hunter above—au contraire, mes amis, these people are trigeminally, excruciatingly sensitive to humor. Laughter is inherently subversive, like a Medieval carnival but longer-lasting, and therefore intolerable to those whose power stems entirely from moral snobbery.
What you mean, I humbly suggest, is that they have no defense against humor.
Hence my zeroth military doctrine: Deride and Conquer.

drednicolson
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 11:00 am

One of the greatest weapons against tyranny is humor. Would-be tyrants are almost invariably self-important and have a chronic inability to laugh at themselves.

Ron Clutz
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 1:48 pm

Example of subversive humor from the soviet era:
Khrushchev visited a pig farm and was photographed there. In a newspaper’s office, a discussion is under way what should be the caption under the picture.
“Comrade Khrushchev among pigs,” “Comrade Khrushchev and pigs,” “Pigs around comrade Khrushchev,” — all are rejected. Finally the editor makes the decision. The caption is “The third from left – comrade Khrushchev.”

Reply to  Trebla
March 12, 2018 5:36 am

Did you hear the one about PNAS Head Ciccernone and PNAS Head McNutt?

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 6:46 am

Did they walk into a bar?

MarkW
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 6:59 am

Or did they duck?

Steve Fraser
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 9:37 am

I saw what youmdid ther. Well done!

J Mac
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 11:09 am

They are both self-professed PNAS experts.

michael hart
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 1:33 pm

The great thing is, I don’t even need to understand it for it to make me laugh.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
March 12, 2018 8:27 pm

Yeah — ask the farmer’s daughter!

rocketscientist
Reply to  Trebla
March 12, 2018 11:13 am

They are insecure in their opinions to the point of being defensive against humor which ridicules their opinions.
Insecure hypersensitivity is the better term.
We speak of sense of humor, when we probably mean “balanced sensed of humor” wherein you can laugh at yourself as much as you are willing to laugh at others.

Ian Cooper
Reply to  rocketscientist
March 12, 2018 3:39 pm

As our friend Josh so often proves, a simple cartoon can be damning compared to a lengthy diatribe. Below is a look at the impact that New Zealand born cartoonist David Low in the 1930’s & 40’s had on Adolf Hitler in particular.
Although Adolph Hitler was a master of propaganda, he was continually flummoxed by one particular form of communication: the editorial cartoon. Perhaps because the Nazi leader had a high opinion of himself, he couldn’t stand to be caricatured. The very sight of an inky mockery of his goose-stepping gait and toothbrush moustache drove Hitler into a spittling, almost frothy, spasm of rage.
As Victor Navasky notes in his new book, The Art of Controversy, the New Zealand–born cartoonist David Low, whose political art appeared in England’s Evening Standard, was especially gifted at targeting the dictator’s most tender psyche spots. Low’s specialized in drawings that literally belittled the der Führer, showing him not as a fearsome tyrant but as a bratty child or small-statured screwball. Low famously dealt with the Hitler-Stalin alliance of 1939 by depicting the two totalitarian leaders bowing to each other with exaggerated courtesy while a corpse lies between them. The murderousness of Hitler and Stalin is acknowledged in the drawing but what gets highlighted is the ridiculous spectacle of two former and future foes greeting each other with the daintiness of prospective dance partners.
Low’s strategy of making Hitler silly rather than scary pinched a touchy nerve. When the English government was pursuing the policy of appeasement before the Second World War, they found that one of Germany’s demands was that Low stop making fun of Hitler. As Lord Halifax, a leading architect of the appeasement policy explained to the publisher of the Evening Standard, “You cannot imagine the frenzy these cartoons cause. As soon as a copy of the Evening Standard arrives, it is pounced on for Low’s cartoons, and if it is of Hitler, as it usually is, telephones buzz, tempers rise, fevers mount, and the whole governmental system of Germany is in an uproar.”
At the behest of the British government, Low did cut back on his anti-Hitler cartoons briefly but the Nazi strongman never forgot the cartoonist’s visual derision. After the Second War broke out, Hitler took pleasure in composing a list of those to be executed after Britain was conquered. Low and other cartoonists had the privilege of a high rank on Hitler’s private hit list.
You can check out the cartoon in question and more at,
https://hazlitt.net/feature/hitlers-cartoon-problem-and-art-controversy

Gamecock
March 12, 2018 3:24 am

‘but as ice caps and glaciers melt at record speeds’
Is that NASCAR record speeds?
I bet it’s slower than paint drying speeds.

Reply to  Gamecock
March 12, 2018 6:48 am

Maybe they mean “at a more glacial rate than ever since records began.”

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Gamecock
March 12, 2018 7:14 am

That statement is an outright lie now as there has not been any significant change in the last 10 year except a slight increase in September minimums.

March 12, 2018 3:49 am

Religions are anaphylactically afraid of humor.

Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 4:33 am

Sorry, I meant the religiose, not religions.

Phil R
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 5:07 pm

BK,
Just a small observation. you seem to be getting a much better response than that post of a few days ago.
Back to normally scheduled program… 🙂

Reply to  Phil R
March 12, 2018 6:13 pm

Phil,
but is that surprising? This time I’m discussing humor humorlessly, not horror humorously, so it was to be expected that our supra-Mexican, infra-Canadian friends would have no difficulty grasping which “side” I’m on.

Justanelectrician
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 13, 2018 8:37 am

“Satire, right? He couldn’t possibly be serious. Oh my God, he is serious!”
As regular readers of warmist propaganda, we’ve all thought this so many times that we don’t trust our satire detectors anymore.

Reply to  Justanelectrician
March 13, 2018 9:49 am

The answer to your question, if you’re still wondering, is that satire is serious.

Justanelectrician
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 13, 2018 10:14 am

Even when the subject is beyond parody?

Reply to  Justanelectrician
March 14, 2018 3:39 am

(That was a reply to you, justanelectrician.)

Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 14, 2018 3:38 am

When I hear the words “beyond parody” I hear a dare. 🙂
If something is beyond parody, the parodist can simply go even further beyond parody.
Thanks for distinguishing parody and satire, by the way—an important difference even the best of us forget from time to time.

Justanelectrician
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 14, 2018 9:24 pm

I think either can be used to describe your art; one’s just more specific.
Oh, yeah – it’s a dare. I’m sure you think you’re being obvious, but I’m pretty sure (or not) that your Namnyef quote is being reposted at Skeptical Science, and it’ll probably lead to a job offer. And if you wanna be a warmist in these parts, you’d better start using some Guardian links.
Good luck

hunter
Reply to  Brad Keyes
March 12, 2018 6:04 am

One of the great movie adaptations…and a really tough novel to adapt on top of that.

Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 6:10 am

Yup. Interestingly, in the opening credits it calls itself a palimpsest, rather than an adaptation. It’s definitely my favorite film à clef about the climate wars. I was drafting a “key” to the movie’s allegory (explaining which character was a satire of which climate scientist, etc.)—should I post it?

TomB
Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 6:57 am

Keyes – many of us would be quite interested in reading it. Anthony seems to be very liberal in allowing guest posts providing they remain at least somewhat germaine to the climate debate.

Reply to  hunter
March 12, 2018 8:17 am

TomB, good to hear. I only ask because I was at a midnight screening of the director’s cut a couple of weeks ago and a few patrons actually groaned at the excessive (by 2018 standards) obviousness of some of the references to the climate debate. Fair enoug, since a number of the clues now come across as a bit heavy-handed. Although the film has otherwise aged well, the climate cultists are now even more brazenly Medieval than Jean-Jacques Annaud could have anticipated when he made it. On the other hand I think it’s a bit rough to blame Annaud for this, when you recall that nobody knew about Poe’s Law of Self-Parodization back then. In any case, I’d be happy to finish writing up my ‘decoding’ of the allegory, for readers who, for whatever reason, don’t find it self-explanatory.

Greg Woods
March 12, 2018 3:57 am

I am looking forward to relaxing on the warm and sunny Icelandic beaches…

TonyL
Reply to  Greg Woods
March 12, 2018 4:40 am

The world is your oyster!
Go in July and get 20+ hours of sun a day. You can not ask for more sunny weather than that.
I hit the beaches myself. They are warm and pleasant, or so say the locals. Remember they are a tough and hearty bunch, unlike most westerners today. I thought it was fine. Your mileage may vary.
Fly The friendly sky:
https://www.icelandair.com/
In case the beaches are too cold for you:
https://www.bluelagoon.com/
{Do not let website details put you off. You do not need reservations, and it is not really expensive.}
Iceland does not really need Global Warming. They have Volcanoes. Yes, they are big. Yes, they get scary.

Greg Woods
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 5:13 am

I thought that with global warming Iceland would have 24 hours of sunshine, year-round….

Bengt Abelsson
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 8:28 am

Beware of””myvatttnet” – it translates to “mosquito lake”

bit chilly
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 11:06 am

this is something worth doing in iceland. https://www.dive.is/dive-sites/silfra/ my sister brought back some fantastic pictures and film last year. beautiful place with great fishing.

ZThomm
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 2:28 pm

The entire island has a splitting headache.

Peta of Newark
March 12, 2018 4:28 am

Iceland was covered by a forest of birch trees, up to circa 500 years ago.
Somebody cut/burned them all (Easter Island anyone?) and they created a desert in doing so.
Said desert is now very effectively maintained by grazing sheep.
I have no sympathy with those people, no pity, no nothing and I don’t believe Ma Nature has either.
Unless there actually is a God, such crimes do not go unforgiven even before we get onto the carnage they wreak on the big fishes of the oceans.
They double down on dumbness because as a volcanic island, they’re sitting on some of the freshest, newest and hence most fertile dirt on this Planet
And now, they triple down on dumb by using their free & renewable energy (volcanic heat) to mine for Bitcoins – for every 7kWh of electricity used by their domestic consumers, an additional 8kWh goes into Faerie Counting.
Ignore and avoid contact with those people, in case whatever is they’ve got is contagious.

TonyL
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 12, 2018 5:05 am

Iceland was covered by a forest of birch trees

Are you sure???
When I was there I got a sense of something quite different.
1) Maximal use of stone was used for all building. Wood was too valuable for boat building. and this goes all the way back to 900 AD.
2) Goats are used extensively to expand the fields. Goats *like* the hard scrabble shrubs that grow at the edge of the fields. The manure the goats produce enables the fields to expand. Slowly but surely, the volcanic wastelands, as bleak and barren a landscape as you will ever see, are transformed into productive pasture and farmlands. {Remember: productive land requires *both* minerals and organics. The volcanoes provide the minerals, the goats provide the organics.}
3) It was discovered that a low shrub from Alaska (US) grows very well indeed in Iceland. A huge planting program was put in place until the plants were established and spreading on their own. Areas once described as a barren moonscape, now are covered with a tinge of green. (Slow but sure.) (And a promise for the future.)
The goats are drooling at the prospect.
In short, the Icelanders are not trashing their island. Just the opposite, the farmers are working hard to make it the most productive it has ever been. Ever.

Phil R
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 5:15 pm

TonyL,
For clarification, that was not directed at you, that was directed at Peta of Newark.

Phil R
Reply to  TonyL
March 12, 2018 5:17 pm

TonyL,
Dang, somehow got out of order, but I think you know what I mean. 🙂

Phil R
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 12, 2018 5:13 pm

J*sus, pull your sanctimonious panties out of your *ss. Why don’t you avoid contact with everybody. The world would be a better place.

rapscallion
March 12, 2018 4:33 am

From the caption under the picture – “Playa Del Carmen. By pre name and last name of the author”
WTF is pre name and last name, Whatever happened to Christian name and Surname?
Even first name is better than pre name for God’s sake!

Reply to  rapscallion
March 12, 2018 9:13 am

No idea what you are on about.
You must be English,as they’re the only ones I’ve met who go around demanding someone’s “Christian” name.

tom s
March 12, 2018 4:35 am

BWAH HAH AH HA HAH!! Stick it where the sun don’t shine JOJOJohannesson. I’ll laugh at you nose to nose if you’d like and I don’t even live there!

alastair Gray
March 12, 2018 4:55 am

According to the GISS Station data station Akureyri in N. Iceland has not shown much warming since 1880 and all time high seems to be in the late thirties even after adjusting and homogenizing. but maybe he spends so much time outside Iceland that he responds to global temperature anomalies rather than a thermometer at home https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/stdata_show.cgi?id=620040630000&dt=1&ds=5

March 12, 2018 4:58 am

I have been to Iceland in Oct and I recall that they seem to be like the Eskimo’s who supposedly have 20+ names for snow, have 20+ names for rain. The forecast for every day was different, however to my eyes it looked always the same like rain/drizzle overcast. Tiny tiny population, large Island, worth a trip but lots of tourists make hotel and food very expensive. Car rental seems to be a scam as they will try and sell you double and triple car insurance to cover dirt roads, volcano ash, rock damage windshield etc etc etc….Of course, its sales, when you bring the car back they just say thanks with hardly even checking it..

ZThomm
Reply to  scottmc37
March 12, 2018 2:35 pm

Compare Iceland to the weather forcasting in Honolulu– it’s the same every day and takes about 5 seconds of broadcast time.

Tom in Florida
March 12, 2018 4:58 am

““Climate change affects us all on this globe, but you can see the effects in particular in the northern regions – the ice cap around the North Pole is melting at record rates, the oceans there are getting warmer,” he said.”
“On the flip side, climate change could bring some economic benefits to the country of just 340,000 people, which would become a natural trade hub if new routes opened up from Asia to the Atlantic due to melting Arctic ice, he said.”
Hmmmm…. in the first quote it doesn’t appear he has any complaint about climate change but was just stating what he believed to be facts. In the second quote he certainly seems upbeat about warming for the benefit of his people. I put this in the “warmer is better” column.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Tom in Florida
March 12, 2018 5:55 am

“In the second quote he certainly seems upbeat about warming …”
But the second “quote” wasn’t in quotation marks. It may well have been a comment by the reporter, Sophie Hares.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Roger Knights
March 12, 2018 9:08 am

It does say “he said” at the end so I assume he said it.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Roger Knights
March 12, 2018 10:07 pm

Oops–you’re right, I missed the “he said.”

TG
March 12, 2018 5:06 am

Actually, some Stanford and UCB “economists” are “predicting” that by 2100 Iceland will be rich beyond any imagination due to climate change (together with Mongolia…)
[url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/doomsday-climate-scenarios-are-a-joke-1520800377[/url]
“While the world economy stagnates, the model projects, cold countries will achieve almost unimaginable wealth. Iceland supposedly will achieve annual per capita income of $1.5 million by 2100, more than double that of any other country except Finland ($860,000). Mongolia, which currently ranks 118th in per capita income, is supposed to rise to seventh, at which point the average Mongolian will earn four times as much as the average American. Canada’s economy becomes seven times as large as China’s.”
I’m not joking, this was published in [I]Nature[/I].
[url]https://web.stanford.edu/~mburke/climate/BurkeHsiangMiguel2015.pdf[/url]

John harmsworth
Reply to  TG
March 12, 2018 6:15 am

In Canada we are being taxed as if we were that wealthy already.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  John harmsworth
March 12, 2018 10:13 am

…and the tax competitiveness just went down.

Rob
March 12, 2018 5:08 am

Another one who has his hand out for a steady stream of climate cash to prop up his failed state.

Editor
March 12, 2018 5:12 am

Perhaps he might prefer a return to the infamous “Sea Ice Years”, from 1965-71, or the even colder interlude from 1979-86.
According to the Iceland Met Office:
The 20th century warm period that started in the 1920s ended very abruptly in 1965. It can be divided into three sub-periods, a very warm one to 1942, a colder interval during 1943 to 1952, but it was decisively warm during 1953 to 1964.The cold period 1965 to 1995 also included a few sub-periods. The so called “sea ice years” 1965 to 1971, a slightly warmer period 1972 till 1978 and a very cold interval from 1979 to 1986.
In a single year, 1967, yields of hay per hectare were 870 kg lower than the average over the previous 25 years. Over 1000,000 ha there was a decrease in production of 87,000 tonnes, at that time worth 260 million krónur, reducing the basic productivity of Icelandic agriculture by 20 per cent (Grove 1988). The year 1967 was not the only one with severe icing; 1970 and 1975 were similar in many respects.”
In 1965 there was a real and very sudden climatic change in Iceland (deterioration). It was larger in the north than in the south and affected both the agriculture and fishing – and therefore also the whole of society with soaring unemployment rates and a 50% devaluation of the local currency.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/01/28/icelands-sea-ice-years-disappear-in-ghcn-adjustments/

Curious George
Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 12, 2018 7:19 am

Time to replace the Met Office with a Clim Office, which would not present inconvenient facts to the gullible public.

March 12, 2018 5:35 am

Nice to see this in today’s WSJ: Doomsday Climate Scenarios Are a Joke https://www.wsj.com/articles/doomsday-climate-scenarios-are-a-joke-1520800377

Dan Evens
March 12, 2018 6:00 am

Jokes about global warming? … “How warm is it?”

knr
March 12, 2018 6:05 am

Mexican resort of Playa del Carmen , so there a bunch of really strong swimmers then because I am sure none of them got their via ‘evil fossil fuel powered planet killers ‘ or is does that only count for the ‘little people ‘ going on holiday .

WXcycles
March 12, 2018 6:08 am

The Emporers new cloths look just marvelous don’t they? What intricate seam work, and they are a perfect fit too. Tailored to order.

LdB
March 12, 2018 6:21 am

There are many different ways you can save energy and your carbon footprint. I normally use the couch as often as the wife lets me.

richard verney
March 12, 2018 6:25 am

As we all know, global warming is anything but global in nature. There has been no warming in Iceland since the 1940s.
if one looks at the unadjusted GISS temperature record, the following is revealed:
https://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/show_station.cgi?id=620040300000&dt=1&ds=01
However, Icelandic temperatures have been radically adjusted so that they are now presented as:
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Further the 2017 Fenandez & Fenandez paper on the Icelandic Glaciers is also very revealing. The bulk of all glacier retreat as from the end of the LIA took place prior to 1940, with only very modest amount of retreat post 1940.
In fact, I seem to recall that with one of the Glaciers some 92% of observed retreat as from the mid 1800s took place before 1940, and only about 8% of the total retreat post 1940!!
So it does not matter whether you look at the temperature measurements, or the Glaciers, there has been all but no warming post 1940.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  richard verney
March 12, 2018 10:11 am

Thanks

Steve Oregon
March 12, 2018 6:36 am

“but you can see the effects in particular in the northern regions” –
There’s the problem. Telling people they can see something that they can’t see doesn’t make it appear.
And what about Playa del Carmen?
“Citing a security threat, the State Department has closed its consular office in a popular Mexican resort city and warned Americans to “consider this information” before traveling to the area.
The State Department on Wednesday night issued a security alert for Playa del Carmen, a tourist draw on the Caribbean coast, saying the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City had received “credible information” about a threat to the city.
“Effective immediately, U.S. Government employees are prohibited from traveling to Playa del Carmen until further notice,” the security alert states. “The U.S. Consular Agency in Playa del Carmen will be closed until further notice.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/08/state-department-warns-of-security-threat-in-playa-del-carmen-popular-resort-city-in-mexico/?utm_term=.1e06f18ef5a7
“Should I cancel my trip to Playa del Carmen after the State Department travel warning?”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/2018/03/09/should-cancel-my-trip-playa-del-carmen-after-state-department-travel-warning/410378002/

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Steve Oregon
March 12, 2018 10:10 am

Only if you are American.

J Mac
Reply to  ResourceGuy
March 12, 2018 11:20 am

???? Because all other people are ‘immune’ to narco-terrorist bombs?

richard verney
March 12, 2018 6:41 am

Further to my post above, the Fernandez & Fernadez paper can be found at
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312185500_High_sensitivity_of_North_Iceland_Trollaskagi_debris-free_glaciers_to_climatic_change_from_the_'Little_Ice_Age'_to_the_present
Obviously, my comment with respect to the glacial retreat was a little lopsided to make a point. But of the 3 main glaciers on Iceland, Tungnahryggsjökull (W) has retreated some 1,735 metres of which retreat some 1,524 metres had taken place by 1946. This is just over 91% of the observed retreat of this glacier. Table 1 gives a summary of thier findings.
Fernandez & Fernandez comment on this glacier as follows:

The trend in Western Tungnahryggsjökull during the first half of the 20th century was a more rapid retreat, showing the highest average rates of the whole period (19.5 m yr−1). By 1946, this glacier had retreated almost 90% of the total recorded between the LIA maximum (1868) and 2005 (Table 1). In the 1946 photo-graph, this significant retreat of the ice reveals two large moraines in the centre of the deglaciated area. The snout retreat slowed down considerably during the second half of the century, espe-cially in 1985 (1.5 m yr−1). By this date, the aerial photograph shows a complex terminus covered with debris, with an uneven retreat, from 60 m in the centre to 150–170 m on the margins, and a vertical rise of more than 200 m since 1946. The 1994 aerial photograph shows a similar snout, although with an advance in the western sector of ≈40 m and a retreat in the eastern sector of ≈20 m (Figure 2). In 2000, the snout, still covered with debris, retreated mainly in the centre. The glacier then continued to retreat, although more slowly than Gljúfurárjökull (6.4 m yr−1) preserving the debris-covered snout (Figures 2 and 3)

I would suggest that the Icelandic President did not have a particularly good school education, since he seems to know so little about the country he is attempting to govern. If this is common in Iceland, then he could do with directing government resources (which are paid by the tax payer) at education, education education.

richard verney
March 12, 2018 6:44 am

Mods
I have tried to post an extract from the Fernandez & Fernandez paper but it has disappeared probably into spam. Please look out for it and post it.
Thanks

prjindigo
March 12, 2018 7:07 am

As opposed to joking about the fact that Iceland has a President?

toorightmate
Reply to  prjindigo
March 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Is he a cool cat or does he have a frosty disposition?
He needs to chill out.

March 12, 2018 7:25 am

New eco-nut demand:
Any people laughing or making fun of Gorebullcrap warming should have their tongues cut out.

hunter
Reply to  beng135
March 12, 2018 12:55 pm

Pretty much…..

March 12, 2018 7:34 am

Snow is pouring down outside my window, as I type this in central North Carolina, USA.
… the end of … “the end of snow” ? I sense a photo op coming on. A couple more inches, and I’ll break out the camera. Time to suit up.

hunter
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
March 12, 2018 12:55 pm

My daughter is in the RDU area, experiencing the same late snow.

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
March 12, 2018 12:57 pm

Here’s a pic I took today:comment image

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
March 12, 2018 1:06 pm

Nice pic Robert thanks.

Phil R
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
March 12, 2018 5:22 pm

Happening hear in SE VA.

Phil R
Reply to  Phil R
March 12, 2018 5:23 pm

Dang, hear = here, although the flakes are so big, I can hear them.

Sheri
March 12, 2018 7:55 am

How do all of these idiots get elected???? What happened to people’s brains?

MarkW
Reply to  Sheri
March 12, 2018 8:32 am

Perhaps they have been placed in Al Gore’s lockbox.

Reply to  Sheri
March 12, 2018 3:36 pm

How do all of these idiots get elected????

ANSWER: They get ELECTED by idiots.

Mohatdebos
March 12, 2018 8:16 am

Iceland is a beautiful country occupied by really nice people. I would encourage everyone to visit if they can afford it. One of the greatest thrills in my lifetime was to stand on a glacier with an active volcano bubbling and steaming under the glacier. As for trees, they were cut down to fuel steamships sailing between North America and Europe. They are trying to reforest Iceland by planting Douglas fir. A friend was a pilot for Iceland Air. He volunteered to drop seeds from his personal aircraft.
As a side note, the first story in Dr. Michael Crichton’s “State of Fear” involves U.S. environmental activists unsuccessfully trying to bribe and then browbeat an Icelandic geophysicist into withdrawing a paper that countered the declining glaciers narrative.

Patrick B
March 12, 2018 8:34 am

Over 30% of Iceland’s economy is tourism based. Tourists really can only get there by jet. Does she want everyone to stop coming to Iceland?

DrTorch
March 12, 2018 9:24 am

Is it really joking?
I think they may be somewhat serious.

Walter Sobchak
March 12, 2018 9:58 am

Communist revolutionaries have long been famous for their humorlessness.

ResourceGuy
March 12, 2018 10:08 am

Iceland could do a better job with emissions targets if it would discourage travelers from coming there to sight see and view the norther lights. And were they proactive or reactive at questioning the Icelandic bottled water marketing during the height of the premium bottled water craze?

March 12, 2018 10:27 am

“I wonder if any of the climate scientists or politicians who attended the Playa del Carmen event also attended the “Cities and Climate Change” event earlier this month in snowy Edmonton? Or was the Edmonton conference an entirely separate group of climate scientists and politicians?”
It couldn’t be the same group – traveling from Canada to Mexico they would have experienced too rapid an increase in temperature and would have expired.

Bruce Cobb
March 12, 2018 12:38 pm

So this child-molestor, scum-sucking lawyer, and warmunist died in a plane crash and were at the pearly gates being interviewed by St. Peter:
St. Peter asks the child molestor; what have you done with your life, and he tells him he molested children, and St. Peter tells him to enter, and that he’s forgiven.
Next he asks the scum-sucking lawyer what he’s done, and he tells him, and St. Peter tells him to enter, he’s forgiven.
Then he asks the warmunist what he’s done. The warmunist proceeds to lie, proudly pronouncing how he’s helped save the planet by denouncing CO2, predicting climate doom if man doesn’t change his ways etc.
St. Peter tells him, “I’m sorry, but you can’t come in”.
“Why not”? the warmunist wails.
“Because”, St. Peter says, being opposed to CO2, which is a life-giving gas good for all life on Earth, you’ve been part of a death cult, and we don’t take your kind here. I’m sure you’ll find plenty of “global warming” where you’re going though.

hunter
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 12, 2018 12:53 pm

+1 👍

March 12, 2018 1:00 pm

Iceland’s President is the guy in the Josh’s Paris COP cartoon asking “Where’s my money?”

March 12, 2018 1:09 pm

It is only ‘politicians’ who DO take this voodoo cult nonsense seriously. The current set of Liberal/Globalist lunatics across Europe appear to be on the wane though so let us hope Iceland soon dump their own.

MarkW
Reply to  ResourceGuy
March 12, 2018 6:55 pm

1) N. Atlantic only
2) We’ve spent plenty of time talking about how the earth cooled until the late 70’s early 90’s and the recent El Nino.

March 13, 2018 12:38 am

I’ve been in Iceland several times, and travelled extensively there. Talking to local people, I’ve noticed that they were complaining about unusual cold and about “much more snow than usual.” They were not joking, they were genuinely concerned about not having a bit of the promised warming, which would help them a lot. But even in Iceland, it seems, politicians are liars and/or idiots. I know a solution to this problem but they would come and kill me if I tell you.

March 13, 2018 2:44 am

Enough of this nonsense. Bjork for President of Iceland! The most famous Icelandercomment image

Scouser in AZ
March 17, 2018 10:04 am

Check out the Energy Consumption per Capita numbers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_consumption_per_capita
Using the more complete 2103 numbers Iceland is a close second to Qatar with 18,177 kilogram of oil equivalent (kgoe) per capita.
The evil, polluting US is at 6,916 of kilogram of oil equivalent (kgoe) per capita.
Perhaps the President should welcome a bit of Globul Warming to enable him to not be a world leader in energy consumption?