Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t Willie Soon & Breitbart – Bill Nye wants to “engage everybody”, get everyone on board his global warming action bandwagon by punishing “hillbillies” and imposing economic sanctions on red states which don’t comply with his climate demands.
Bill Nye: Blue States Will ‘Impose Economic Sanctions’ Against Climate Change-Denying States
… Nye said, “Only 40 percent of people in the U.S. think that Congress should be addressing this and that’s because certain conservative groups, especially from the fossil fuel industry, have been very successful in introducing the idea that scientific uncertainty, plus or minus two percent, is the same as plus or minus 100 percent.”
He continued, “There’s a lot of emphasis from conservatives on what are writ-large states rights. Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”
He added, “We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together. The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies. We want to engage everybody. Not working to address climate change is in no one’s best interest. It is not in the best interest, especially of your children and grandchildren. …
Read more (includes a video): http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/29/bill-nye-blue-states-will-impose-economic-sanctions-climate-change-denying-states/
In the video Bill Nye also said “we’ve got to get everybody working together, the same way people were working together in world war 2“. Bill Nye’s plan for getting people to work together, for achieving unity, is to call people names and threaten economic war against states which don’t embrace his policy recommendations.
My question – if Bill Nye really believes renewables are cheaper and more reliable than fossil fuels, why does he feel the need to make economic threats and call people names?
That sounds like a class action dare.
Yes, and from a man who’s proven to be a verifiable idiot. If Nye really understood the true uncertainties involved in climate modeling, he’d jump in front of a Mack truck at freeway speeds.
On the other hand, at least level-headed people know who the self-proclaimed enemy is.
Mr Nye had Better be careful or his suggestion could backfire having Red States impose sanctions on blue states.
Until Bill Nye, the science lie, admits he had to forge the Al Gore video because he was too incompetent to design an experiment to demonstrate the effect he needs to STFU.
He is a TV children’s clown, who has minimal understanding of science and NO INTEGRITY.
Unfortunately, Nye has credibility with many of the under-informed. I really don’t understand why. The few times I’ve seen him up against a “skeptic,” though, he seems such a clown and buffoon.
Send him to FROST BITE FALLS Minnesota and have BULLWINKLE pull a rabbit out of his hat—-out comes a POLAR BEAR that bites his head off.
Bill Nye’s comments violate significant ethics and civil law violations. If he is a Mechanical Engineer, as he claims, perhaps he applied/holds a Professional Engineer’s License in some jurisdiction. If so, he can be brought up on these comments and stripped of his PE. Does anyone know his professional status ( if any ) in any of the jurisdictions he has a residence in?
I see no evidence that the Big Lie Guy is a PE or that he even took the EIT.
Carbon Bigfoot, He may have majored in Mechanical Engineering but, from what I can tell reading his out-bursts, he took the TV job teaching his version of science to school kids because no one would hire him as an ME.
Bryan A: Considering many blue states get power and oil and gas from red states, it’s probably a foolish thing to do. Since blue states oppose fracking, they have to buy from outside their states. How cold can their citizens stand and can they walk to work every day, assuming there’s work to walk to.
Sheri, they oppose fracking, as well as drilling and mining of any kind.
By this definition from WIKI the great and powerful
By this very definition, Bill Nye is preaching Fascism
Jeezers!…there’s sure a lot of negative comments about Bill Nye, here–undoubtedly derived from a bunch of “Republican brain”, ignorant, gun-nut hillbillies, “triggered” by Bill’s tastefully understated, WASP-snappy, goofy-dork, “dog-whistle” bow-tie! So what else is new, right?
And let me just say straight out in Bill’s defense that, unlike everyone he knows, Bill does not regard pushin’ the Gaia-hustle into the end-zone for a win, as the key to achieving the hive’s ever-green, green-washed, dystopian dreams–a divided world in which us expendable, coolie-trash, herdling-nobodies are cast into a cull-crazy, gulag-normative, Darwinian hell-hole, over which our newly installed Philosopher-Kings, perched on a higher-plane of existence, can behold our desperate, grinding, daily death-struggles, even as they stuff their ravenous pie-holes with pop-corn, and where our “Golden Betters” are further free to strut about on the world stage, in their spit-shined, Cheka-chic jack-boots and boss everyone around and stomp on human faces forever. No!–Bill may run with the wrong crowd, but that’s just not him!
And is it just moi, or does anybody else think that Bill looks like a low-bid, whiteboy-model E. B. E., designed by a committee of alien-invader, priviliged-pale-face, mutant geekballs, currently failin’ his beta-test?
If he has read the Constitution, which I doubt, he would understand that one state cannot impose economic sanctions on another state. Full stop. This guy deserves to be sent to Venezuela where he can be happy.
mike December 31, 2017 at 9:48 am
“And is it just moi, or does anybody else think that Bill looks like a low-bid, whiteboy-model E. B. E., designed by a committee of alien-invader, priviliged-pale-face, mutant geekballs, currently failin’ his beta-test?
I thought that with a wig and a broom, he looks like the wicked witch of the west.
Carbon BIgfoot,
I don’t know abot a PE, but according to Wikipedia, he…
Carbon BIgfoot,
Also according to Wikipedia,
Maybe that’s why he spends so much time seeking attention.
I think someone should send him a copy of the new tax legislation approved by the U.S. Congress and signed into law by President Trump. I think the Red States representatives and senators did a pretty good job of screwing the high tax blue states.
“received an honorary doctor of pedagogy degree from Lehigh University”
… and then only as a replacement for Neil deGrasse Tyson
“Until Bill Nye, the science lie, admits he had to forge the Al Gore video because he was too incompetent to design an experiment to demonstrate the effect he needs to STFU. ”
Incidentally, if you feed 100% CO2 into MODTRAN it shows you that the infrared spectrum is very different from that of a few percent or less. Thus, the result would not have been representative of the atmosphere even if the experiment had been properly conducted.
Bill is long overdue for a lengthy tout of The Pit Of Misery.
Well Bill, you go right ahead and declare war on Climate Skeptics – that’s your right. Just don’t think it is your right to try and persuade everyone else to follow you.
Cheers
Roger
http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com
Why is it not his “right to try and persuade everyone else to follow” him? It’s a free country and he clearly has that right.
I don’t think he’ll be successful but he, and everyone else, has the right to try to persuade.
As long as he’s not trying to convince people to over throw the government, he can try to persuade people to do anything he wants.
Sounds like treason to me , calling for a “War between the States”.
The last time your country had a civil war was in the 1860’s about another emotive issue; slavery. If this idiot Nye, thinks that causing division between individual States is going to make his fiction become fact he is mistaken. As for “economic sanctions” against those States that continue to frack and use oil products, he is equally deluded, because those States have reliable and cheap energy and consequently cheaper products and services.
From an economic standpoint, the countries (or states) that impose tariffs are always hurt worse than the countries (or states) that have the tariffs imposed on them.
It’s a myth that is continually perpetuated that the American Civil War was fought over slavery. While people in the north mostly thought it was wrong to enslave another, they had no love of the Africans that were brought here. They held them in only slightly higher regard than the Native Americans. If you want to know what the war was about, it was about what all wars are about… Money and power.
The War Between the States(Civil War) was a war about whether or not a state had a right to secede. Pres. Lincoln said or implied that many time. Slavery was side issue. The Emancipation Proclamation didn’t even include the Union states, it was a weapon against the South. Lincoln was a deep thinker and a very smart politician and tactician. It was all mainly about maintaining the Union.
As I said “money and POWER”
The “Union” was an excuse. It would have made little to no difference if the south split off except in who had control.
There is nothing in the constitution that denies states the right to secede.
Most people at the time thought that states had the right to secede.
The losers in the civil war were forced to reapply to reapply for admission to the union. If secession were illegal, there would have been no need to re-admit the southern states.
Or possibly sedition.
Sedition is trying to overthrow the current government, something the southern states were not trying to do.
That’s not sedition it’s treason.
Last time I looked these weather worriers have been waging economic war on their own people. High energy prices create poverty. People who live in poverty invariably vote for handouts.
Which is why liberals favor policies that create poverty.
Well, state-to-state tariffs don’t exist in the US due to fair commerce laws. If the government degrades to the point where those laws are rolled back, the US will no longer be united, and not worth living in.
Well I happened to be in Barnes & Noble book store a couple of hours ago, looking for a book which has not yet been written; but will be, and in the ” Science ” section at B&N they mostly have rubbish books as far as Physics goes; more like Science Fiction, but it was near the Camera books that already are written, and lo and behold, there prominently displayed in the “Science ” section was this book ” The War on Science ” by some unknown author, with a front cover endorsement by none other than Ultra- High Temperature CO2 expert extra-ordinaire, Bill Nye !
I dropped it like a 2800 K light bulb, before my skin got contaminated, so I didn’t even get to see the front page with maybe the Library of Congress number in there.
If your fake news book gets a Library of Congress number, does that qualify as l=ye eng to Congress ??
G
why does he sound like Neville Chamberline?
Why are Bill’s favorite states the same states that can not pay their bills?
For the generally agreed on approximate global mean surface temperature of 288K, the corresponding black body radiation spectrum would have 98% of its energy in the 5 micron to 80 micron spectral range, peaking around 10 microns wavelength, and with a total emittance of about 390Wm^-2. which is about 30% of the mean TOA TSI fro the sun.
Does anybody know if that rather powerful earth surface emitted radiant energy has any biological or chemical or physical effect on ANY living organism, such that the organism can detect such radiation with its natural senses; or be directly affected by that radiation in ANY direct way ??
I’m fairly sure it has NO interaction with human bodies; but what about other organisms, which might be affected by or able to sense such radiation ??
G
Does anybody know
“such that the organism can detect such radiation with its natural senses;”
Trivially easy; the problem is recognizing that the warmth you feel on your face was indeed emitted from nearby surfaces. One demonstration of this is opening your freezer door (but stand a few feet away so the cold air does not immediately impinge upon you); you immediately feel the cold on your face; but cold does not radiate! Only heat radiates. What happens is that the cold surface is radiating much less than the surrounding area, and you sense this *absence* of heat as cold.
A visual metaphor is that everything in the room is “glowing” at room temperature, but there’s one spot that is dark. Even with your eyes closed you can easily locate that cold spot just by facing it.
Certain snakes have considerably enhanced heat sensing organs.
Did you know that both Al Gore and Bill Nye were born in Washington, D, C? I think that gives a very strong indication that there is something that’s just a bit scary both in the air and in the water in that strange little foreign country.
Infected with beltway fever at birth. OMG
Both, also it seems have concluded that they couldn’t make a go at doing science fiction so they made it a religion and are now attempting to foist that upon us in attempt to further their fortunes.
They are merely following in the footsteps of other well known charlatans.
Billy Nye like Al Gore is special
He can talk about Climate Change all he wants and then turnaround and maintain 3 residences.
“Since 2014, Nye has divided his time between the Encino neighborhood of Los Angeles and the Chelsea district of Manhattan,[80] though he has also owned a house on Mercer Island near Seattle”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Nye
We do not have to do a thing. Bill Nye will make such an utter buffoon of himself that no one will listen to him in 10 or 15 years. He’ll be alone.
Mercer Island is exclusively for the very well-heeled. The snake oil business ain’t what it used to be.
“…no one will listen to him in 10 or 15 years.”
That’s the problem.
bill nye. carbon footprint huge. wants the rest of us to shrink our. carbon footprint.
climate glutton. wants us to take less so he can take more. like the preacher preaching against sex. while secretly having it off with the congregation. or wait. was that al gore.
And likely dead.
No one listens to him now.
Why 10 or 15 years? We’ve had 60? years of “disastrous” global warming and I can’t tell the difference. It’s -31C where Iive today. -22F . The 60’s were definitely a bit colder, but just marginally. And this is better! Much, much better!
Aphan, I agree. My first thoughts when I saw the headline were “why do any of us care what Nye says?”.
He’s a totally loose cannon who damages their reasonable credibility with every escapade.
That movie ” A Civil Action” was on our loval TV last night and Bill Nye’s mental capacity being adversely by polluted water is not as unreasonable as Mr Nye might suggest.
That said a bloke named Bill Nye eally should not go around calling climate skeptics “hillbillies” because the natural response is that only a “NyeBilly” would say that. Sounds a bit dumb to me, almost like there are a few biochemical screws loose or missing somewhere.
We are not Hillbillies. Hillary said we were Deplorables from flyover country.
Funny that he keeps losing debates to “hillbillies”.
You mad, Bill ? As a hatter, I would say.
His comment about “Progressive voters” betrays his whle Socialist-activist world view. Typical of the non-working class.
Are you saying that Bill Nye is a mad hatter?
I used to be in Fly-over country, and in fact learned to fly over it, and as I recall it s flat as a pancake, and if you drive through the Ozarks before they cur the grass on the freeway, you won’t see any mountains.
I think there is a place called Taum Sauk or something akin to that, which is the highest point in Harry Truman country. I believe it even has a pumped storage power plant on top of it, and is at least one hundred meters above mean sea level. I’m sure I never ever went there. As I recall, Lake of The Ozarks is actually a very nice place to recreate. although I never ever got to fish there. One of the things I stupidly missed doing in MO.
G
george, you are thinking of Kansas and Oklahoma. The Ozarks have hills that go up to 5 and 6 thousand feet above sea level.
Ristvan, I assume what you call ‘flyover country’ is the same as the “Rust Belt”. That Hillary doubled down on that sneering dismissal of that part of the USA (that was for a century or so its very engine room) by referring to its inhabitants as ‘deplorables’ explains completely to this observer from the other side of the planet just why she lost the election and how an outsider like Donald Trum won it.
Over a year down the track, the sanctimonious, leftard msm still just do not seem to get it that they are the reason Mr Trump is POTUS and that they are the Harvey Weinsteins of the public discourse.
There is a difference. Al Gore doesn’t believe in climate change any more than he believes in unicorns. He makes money from climate change as other charlatans have made money peddling snake oil. He puts on a big show, because it draws the suckers.
Gore and the olther climate change profiteers are trying to engineer a new kind of economy in which they can create profits via government mandate. This isn’t new, the current tax and federal codes, and the countless pages they contain are the result of limiting competition; cementing the positions of the big players, and preventing new players from rising up. But Gore and his players hope to shift control of the energy market from the current team over to his team. They can’t hope to do this by competing directly in the open market, so they do it through legislation and regulation.
But Nye is not a businessman like Gore, Bill Nye is a believer. I can’t fault Gore with his attampts to enrich himself and his friends, that’s what business people do. But Bill Nye is a tool. The Islamic fundamentalists responsible for terror attacks are businessmen like Gore, they benefit economically from what they do. But the poor fools who pull the triggers or blow themselves up are tools like Nye.
This was actually very insightful and enlightening. Never thought Gores motives would be to shift control from companies to his team, but now it seems obvious. Thanks.
JPGuthrie’s post sounds just like 97 hammers striking 97 nails right on the head.
Building a wall comes to ihd
mind
Deplorable hillbillies: you know how them people are! Roll eyes. Way to go to get folks working together. The green slime must be really feeling behind the 8 ball
Deplorable hillbillies is a widespread idea in the MSM, academia and the left-leaning “intelligentsia”, but they tend not to say it directly, but a programme this morning on the BBC World Service was discussing this very issue. They won’t say so directly but are clearly very frustrated that these hillbillies get to vote.
This deplorable redneck is also familiar with the history and practice of democracy, from Aristotle’s Politics IV (Bekker No.) 1294be to the post-modern Tyranny of the Minority.
It’s funny because the “hillbillies” were to a large extent the hard-working, independent & moral people that built the US & kept it going for so long. Cultural marxists find them natural enemies and hence the derision.
It looks like Jerry Brown is trying to coax the hillbillies out of CA (and the beef/dairy industry) by unfairly taxing their agricultural livelihoods. They can buy land cheaper in the midwest, so if things get expensive to get in CA they can blame it on the hill folk he drove east.
Here is some hillbilly humor and a song for y’all that gives a fitting review of Bill’s show.
Heee Hawww
Bill Nye the Not Very Bright Guy. The Commerce Clause of the US Constitution prohibits one state imposing economic “sanctions” on another. But it doesn’t prohibit them from doing it to themselves, which they are with the RGGI and mad-hatter renewables mandates.
We are blessed to have enemies such as this.
Exactly right.
It’s these same people that want to get rid of the Electoral College system too. Seems they are not really fans of the US Constitution, unless of course someone disagrees with them; then they scream “Free speech!”
I’ve lost track of the number of liberals, when someone criticizes something they have said, start to scream about how the constitution gives them the right to speak their minds.
Of course the first amendment is only a restriction on government. Your employer has every right to fire you if you say something that embarrasses the company.
If you want to get rid of the electoral college system for electing a president, where the sovereign States choose a President, instead of a one man one vote democracy vote (USA is a Republic, and the Constitution says it guarantees to EVERY State a Republican form of Government, then you would also have to get rid of the US Senate, where once again you don’t have a one man one vote choice. The smallest State (izzat Alaska or Montana) gets exactly the same number of Senators as the largest States, New York, Califonia, Texas, etc.
Alaskans would prefer to not be told how to run their place by the people in Rhode Island, that will fit into 30 different non overlapping places in one single park in Alaska (ANWR).
I can accept a Bill Nye for simply being just plain ignorant about EM Radiation Physics, but the alternative explanation for his famous experiment, would seem to be flat out lying to the American People and Media.
Ignorance is not a disease; we were all born with it, but deliberately concocting a fake experiment that purports to show how CO2 absorbs long wave EM radiation as emitted by the condensed Earth, but doing it with an EM radiation source that simply is nowhere to be found anywhere in the earth’s climate system, that is ten times the Temperature of any real earth average Temperature, and 10,000 times the radiant emittance of a real earth source, is a bit much to simply gloss over, as a simple mistake.
G
Nye is useful socialist/Marxist idiot.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
– William F. Buckley
george e. smith December 30, 2017 at 9:52 pm
“… then you would also have to get rid of the US Senate, where once again you don’t have a one man one vote choice. The smallest State (izzat Alaska or Montana) gets exactly the same number of Senators as the largest States, New York, Califonia, Texas, etc”
Invalid argument as originally Senators were appointed by state legislatures to represent their State in the federal government not individuals. Individual representation is reserved to the House of Reps. This was changed by the 17th Amendment to a direct election of Senators, which now allows one man two votes, one for the Congressperson and one for the Senator.
But this is off topic so I won’t go further.
Tom
“I won’t go further”
Good you embarrassed yourself enough already, read what George wrote.
Bob boder December 31, 2017 at 8:47 am
Tom
“I won’t go further”
Good you embarrassed yourself enough already, read what George wrote.
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Perhaps we simply interpret things we read differently. You would you so kind as to identify what you think I misread in George’s comments and how it applies to what I posted.
Awesome! No more domestic oil or natural gas for CA … from those pesky RED States. Uh, yeah … Bill Nye the not so bright guy. I am certain that Silicon Valley can operate 100% on solar … yep. Not too bright
They could throw in some of those wind turbines too. Then they might be able to operate a couple of days a month.
Ha! The price of an iPhone would crack the $20k threshold. But the Marketing Dept. will make you feeeeeel really kewwwl for spending “3 months salary” on a phone that lets you “look like” your favorite emoji.
Well, it seems as though the laws of physics aren’t the only laws he’s ignorant of.
He’s a true progressive, blazing a new trail for the party.
If his trail should lead over a cliff then trust the government to break the fall.
Nye’s not even a scientist. He just plays one on TV.
If you ever see him in a debate you can tell right away that he’s not even very bright. Basically he’s one notch above a dunce, and to make that clear he really should be wearing a dunce cap when he debates skeptics.
The thing is……. people with a mental age of 12 or under, actually “believe” him.
This is strange to me, since I’ve known hundreds of mechanical engineers and they are almost all very bright individuals.
I suspect that the mechanical engineers that you know, are the ones who actually managed to find jobs in their specialty.
Go figure!
I didn’t know that about Dolph. (Never heard of Dexter.)
But I did know about the dolt.
Dexter … BS, MS, PhD … at USC. High School Valedictorian and brightest mathematics student … Pacifica HS, Garden Grove
Dexter is a LEGIT intellect! … the guy on the left is just a creepy old man that I wouldn’t let anywhere NEAR small children
Ditto to that, if I found him anywhere near my grañdsons he wouldn’t walk away.
I had no idea about dolph, go figure. He played the right hand and went where the money was, acting.
Bill Nye, the pencil-necked geek, reminds me of Beaky Buzzard.
+100
Can any of the graphics wizbangs here put a bowtie on that buz?
Not wanting to nit pick, but a scientist is someone who “does science”, not just studies it. I would also say that Michael Mann, for instance, is not a scientist, because what he does is not science. In fact, it is anti-science!
I don’t take that as a “nitpick”.
Of the three, the one with the least background to understand “Science” is the one called “The Science Guy”.
Dolph’s chosen profession is to pretend, on camera, that he is a kick-ass army guy or boxer. But he’s not a “science” dummy.
(Again, I don’t know anything about Dexter other than the credentials presented here.)
Bill Nye? His chosen profession was to pretend the “Science Guy” on camera. He never was a “Mr. Wizard”.
Now his chosen profession is to use the “Science Guy” TV rep to promote his political “progressive” agenda.
(Kinda reminds me of those old commercials where someone says, “I’m not a Doctor, but I play one on TV.”
I always liked Beakman’s World much better than Bills show. He seemed more honest sincere and way funnier. It is the show my kids watched.
Gee, Nazis did this kind of stuff in WWII. Just saying…
Yeah. But our socialists are different. Right?
Yes. This time it is not national socialism, but international socialism. It makes a big difference on whom you gas.
From the behavior of the European socialists, I’m pretty sure that the Jews will be the first ones into the gas chambers again.
I doubt that. They may be running them
The European fascists have been welcoming the Muslims with open arms. Even finding unique and inventive ways to excuse their tendency to rape unescorted young women.
Resource Guy, it sounds like a threat. I feel threatened. Should I call my governor to prepare the Texas National Guard for such? This is over the top. This will not stand. Economic war is war, indeed.
I call upon Bill Nye to retract this threat. No good will come of this.
Um, “eloquently stated”????
Someone needs a dictionary. And tutoring on how to be a decent person. What a nasty thing to say.
As a hillbilly, I resent Bill Nye.
Bill looks a lot like Harold Camping. Harold wore regular ties and was more likable.
If Harold wore ties while camping he dressed better than most.
/sarcacity
Actually Bill Nye dresses more like someone in a group home who insists that Jesus is coming really soon.
Bill Nye, this former ‘Blue State’ Deplorable (ya, you could never guess from my credentials) will willingly take you on. In court, my expense until you lose. Bring it, bubba. You got nothing.
as the hillbillies………..I’m triggered
ristvan pwns Bill “Beaky Buzzard” Nye.
I thought that taking punitive economic war on other states was one of the faults that the Constitution was designed to prevent. Sounds like the Left is trying to bring back ancient wars.
Commerce Clause should prevent this nonsense.
It will. That AND the clause that requires Congress to approve compacts between states.
Which is why
communistsProgressives hate the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It so interferes with their Big Brother schemes.Great, another 10:10 style Malthusian misanthrope floats to the top of the cesspool.
Bill, it is far more likely that in the near future, broke-ass blue states, especially California and Illinois will be begging money from the rest of the states to bail them out for their debts, public pensions and unfunded promises they’ve made over the years to buy the votes of their Democratic voters. Won’t that be a kick in the ass? To borrow a phrase from Captain Kirk, Bill Nye, double dumb ass on you.
You know you’re losing an argument when you have to start using threats to make people come aboard. If the science was settled and there was unequivocal proof of cagw then we as a species would do whatever it takes to save the human race and the planet. But since there’s not nor likely ever will be they will just keep name calling bullying and threatening. Every year that passes erodes into their timeline of doom.
And B-nye has been doing this schtick for years now … threatening all us “science illiterates”. Ad hominem attacks are THE last refuge, er, first refuge for leftists.
” If the science was settled and there was unequivocal proof of cagw then ….”
They could just point at it.
The cost of anything depends on what you measure in and what you leave out of the calculation. This applies especially to constant assertions that solar and wind powered electricity are cheaper than nuclear and gas/coal fired power. Electricity prices in Germany and Denmark are more than 65% higher than those in nuclear powered France and are the highest in Europe. This policy is shifting industry out of Germany under “energiewende”.and has resulted in rising levels of energy poverty in this once rich country. This same problem is found in South Australia, where industry is fleeing costly CAGW induced reliance on solar and wind and curtailment of coal/gas powered electricity. The price of electricity in South Australia has increased significantly as ‘renewables’ ballooned and coal/gas was reduced. Electricity in South Australia is about 50% higher than in coal-dependent Queensland. South Australia now hangs off its cable to Victoria’s coal fired plants which themselves are under attack.
There is a clear price pattern evident here and it seems to involve a figure of 50%. THere is ceaseless propaganda supporting the idea that Solar and Wind is cheap, and cheaper in particulat than nuclear or coal/gas. It can be made to appear so when measured in a particular way, but alongside that is the experience of the local electricity consumer who sees their account rapidly and acceleratingly drained by power Company bills. Things that are really cheap, sell themselves and do not need government subsidies.
As Griff keeps telling us, it doesn’t matter how high electricity prices get in Germany, because the people can’t afford to use it anyhow.
So much better in the US: I get my power from a socialist non-profit organization, the Lee County Electrical Cooperative, didn’t drop out for a second during Hurricane Irma and at very good prices too!
Public utility districts are not-for-profit, community-owned utilities.
28 PUDs serve customers across the State of Washington.
Fast Facts about PUDs [ http://www.wpuda.org/ ]
The map at the site shows all the different flavors — We are yellow, so just electricity.
That government can own and operate power stations is not evidence that government owned power stations are the best way to provide power.
Mark
Not government, but extremely local administration, you know like the guy living next door. And who said best way? Very few things in the world is best way.
I can settle with pretty good, as long as their intention is to improve!
Without competition, nothing improve for long.
Government regulated monopolies always bloat, there’s no reason for them not to.
The man who farms most of the neighboring tracts to mine is on the board of our rural electric coop. I have a direct contact and 14 cents per KW. The county water system is coop also. We have more say in those utilities than city folks. My LP supplier fills my tank when prices are down and also stores it for me so it stays at that price as long as possible. He is a neighbor also. Around here if you are within 2 miles you are a closely located neighbor and we know who lives on what tracts of property and what livestock and pets they own. Rural counties are the fabric of what made this country thrive.
“ceaseless propaganda supporting the idea that Solar and Wind is cheap”
Yes it is. If you ignore all kinds of important details and believe one-sided marketing hype funded by government money, solar and wind are cheap.
Ntesdorf…. That is the intent, cripple industry with energy shortage then control the economy. This may work in most countries but can only be successful in the US if the Federal government controls. Nye’s stupid attempt/suggestion would cause industries to relocate to industry favorable states and ultimately the people will follow along with the balance of power.
I seem to recall there’s something in the Constitution about “interstate commerce”.
But Bill is a “progressive”. What does he care about the Law of The Land?
PS Did “The Science Guy” ever mention anything other than politics and money?
He should be careful what he wishes for, especially since he’s on the wrong side of the true science …
The states Nye mentions are standouts at imposing sanctions against their own citizens:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/economic-freedom/map?geozone=na&page=map&year=2015&selectedCountry=USA
Interesting way of looking at things.
“California, Illinois, New York”
Places I have lived and worked but avoid in retirement. Good goverment means low crime, good schools, good roads, and low taxes.
While this sounds like a contradiction, efficiently spending tax dollars improves the quality of life. When public safety is about confiscating drug money and not protecting children something is wrong.
California and New York import power. An elected official in California suggested sanctions against Arizona. Fine, start with the power and water you import.
And New York gets much of its power from hydro via Niagara Falls. Not imported, but mot “renewable” by many or the Enviros’ definition of “renewable”.
Gunga Din, also from Hydro-Quebec I think.
Gunga din most of their power from Quebec .
Go Billy go! This dork is a perfect representative of all that is phony and ridiculous about CAGW and this recent comment just emphasizes that. I hope he keeps babbling as often as possible!
Nye is a treasure.
“Nye is a treasure.”
He’s stand up material.
Eric,
Recall… pirates buried their treasures…. 😉
Eye is a ” Hill-a-billie ” an cyance is mi think
States can’t impose tariffs against each other. Completely against the constitution.
Even if they could….no blue state is self supporting
Didn’t Trump’s tax bill include the elimination of the deduction for state and local taxes?
If so, the Blue states are going to be even further from self supporting.
“…Just watch out, conservatives, if states rights include California, Illinois, New York — these places that, where people voted in a progressive fashion — …”
Illinois’ is blue when it comes to voting for president, and the state legislature has a Democrat majority, but the current governor (and 4 of the past 6) is Republican. That’s not quite “voting in a progressive fashion” for Illinois’ leadership.
Will this stupidity never end?
Not while the money holds out.
Not while OUR money holds out.
Personally I do not want it to end.
I think Bill Nye is suffering from self grandiose similar to Al Gore. They are both great educated men in their own minds. I was just told in a blog since I do not have a climate science degree I am not qualified to have an opinion on man-made climate change. Wonder why that only works only one way?
“since I do not have a climate science degree I am not qualified to have an opinion on man-made climate change”
Perhaps it does work both ways. It would explain why all those GW Climatologist’s computer models have been wrong. They don’t have Computer Science degrees.
And “computer science” degrees actually exist. You could get one. Where would you get a “climate science” degree? The internet maybe? Hey, I know!
Anyone want to help me start the Online Climate Science University? We will make a fortune! Unless of course we teach actual science, but why would we do that?
“And “computer science” degrees actually exist.”
And “computer science” competence can actually be measured.
“And “computer science” degrees actually exist.”
My son has one from George Mason U. He takes the metro to close to the White House.
Where did we go wrong?
The Online Climate Science University may already exist. There is a university where you can get a degree in climate science, among other professional subjects. It’s called the Velvet Jones School of Technology:
His only purpose in this is to draw attention to himself. In that he is 100% successful. Got WUWT and who knows what else to print this.
Bill Nye is just a “Timmy Cook” without money.
Ha hahahahahah
I noticed something as I got older. I am now of the firm view that, by the time a person is 40, they have the face they deserve.
Now go back to the top and take a look at that face and then wonder how could a decent human being have that face.
When you’re younger, the body can change remarkably so a change in personal views can alter the overall appearance. But by 40 the long term habitual moods, expressions and reactions have created a permanent impression of the person inside.
Now go back to the top again, take another look at Nye and be aware of what feelings you get about him just by looking… 😀
This needs to be done in reverse – “red areas” (look at demographics by county) produce most of what we need to live – food, energy etc. How about the “red areas” declare war on the “blue areas” (i.e. cities) so they may actually understand where everything they consume comes from. By that , I mean withhold products from red areas to blue areas.
Comifornia would be begging for mercy inside of a week if electricity imports were cut off. Cutting off water would have a similar but slower impact on LA. The Blue regimes need to consider what they import before declaring war.
I am sure there are legally binding contracts that will prevent that. CA is full of liars…sorry, I mean lawyers.
Of course, there are always supply problems and who’s to say why those suddenly increased? Maybe the equipment is just old.
Bill Deny is great,I could not hope for a better enemy than this poor fool.
This is almost as heartwarming as Utubes of Liberal tears on President Trumps election
Goodness Billy Boy! Sounds like you want another civil war. Blue states are going to impose things on red states? Well, first let’s clear up the little matter of just what red and blue states really are. Which political party is mare aligned with socialism/communism? That would be the Democrats, right? And what color flags to communist states normally have? Would that be red? Remember when we called the Chinese the “Blue Chinese”? Or was that the “Red Chinese”? So just how did red turn to blue on its way across the oceans? Now that we have un-reversed the color spectrum, let’s think about hillbillies for a moment. They do tend to have the most firearms and ammunition. Which is a worry, isn’t it?
Liberals see themselves as the new Blue Bloods.
I’ve often wondered about that color thing as well. In Canada, red is the color for the Liberals while Blue is for the Conservatives. Orange is for the Endy Pee, the most socialist mainstream party.
In canaduh, they are ALL socialist parties. Conservatives even use the moniker “progressive” to draw in more liberal leaning voters. Anyone to the right of j.trudeau is considered a nazi.
Canaduh is finished.
And the Global PharmaMafia by hook or by crook support them all. Follow the money.
Bill Nye, the Faux Science Guy, seems to have gone completely Senile with his rants now. Apparently his stand on CAGW is falling on so many deaf ears that he has taken to Shouting in a Vacuum, a Vacuum that mainly fills his cranium. For someone so dependent on CO2 (he releases more than the average human) it would have worked out better if he had been able to run that CO2 experiment properly instead of having to fake the results because he not only couldn’t perform the experiment properly, but his entire premise was flawed to begin with.
At least us hillbillies aren’t in it alone. Our neighbors to the north have their own goofy science guy: http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/david-suzuki-on-the-last-great-fight-of-his-life-i-know-god-damn-well-im-in-a-limited-period-of-time-now
I’m guessing Suzuki wants that change made now while his party is in power, not later when someone else is in power.
“…[W]e’re saying we need a change in our charter of rights and freedoms.” –David Suzuki
Got a mouse in ‘is pocket, does ‘e?
Shocking news:
Bill Nye proposes economic sanctions against non complying States, such as Sanctuary States.
He ruined his argument straight away by calling anyone who doesn’t agree with him a Hillbilly.
This guy really needs to be put out of his misery.
Libalism is a mental illness as often noted here in comments. Now it is intersecting with Trump reality to create the modern phenomenon of Trump Derangement Syndrome. TDS is now claiming many so-called celebrities, comedians, and media personalities. Bill Nye is undoubtedly suffering from TDS. This statement is just one such manifestation.
Unless he gets professional help and a steady diet of Xanax, it is likely to worsen. This is afterall just year 1 finishing from President Trump. TDS is just getting going in Progressives. Expect the rhetoric to worsen in 2018.
Liberalism ( not Libalsm). errr.
Joelobryan: Are you sure you made the right correction? The left likes to sue opponents into science. So instead of changing “libalism” to “liberalism”, maybe it should be changed to “libelism.”
In my experience, liberals use law suits to counter science, not force people into it.
Liarism
“science” should have bee “silence”
Bees aren’t silent, they buzz.
Maybe he’s already on some kind of psychotropic drugs that enable his delusions. Supposedly MANY people are on some sort of prescription meds.
Seen in a lab at Texas Intruments: “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.”
As an engineer I worked with idiots like Bill Nye all of the time. Theoretically smart, but practically stupid. If the theory makes sense, they are in 1000% even if it can be clearly shown that in the real world the theory breaks down. They also typically couldn’t install a ceiling fan on their own to save their ass.
Most engineers are bight and can follow complex material, employ challenging cook book approaches and can build upon experience. Some are thinkers, and see more deeply better understanding the complexity of interactions. The former have lot of faith, so much it can create blind spots. The later more humble and thorough.
I know an electrical engineer that I wouldn’t trust to install a lightbulb.
He actually called me from a Job once to ask me what Kelvin is.
At my first commercial nuke plant after the navy, I had a mechanical engineer from my alma mater ask me what NPSH was. It is a practical concept that they do not spend much time in college but a critical design parameter for pumps. He was becoming a good engineer because of the willingness to ask questions.
A second ME took his new defective lawn mower back to Sears. Sears gave him a new mower and oil to in it. On several other occasions I learned he had no aptitude for engineering.
A third ME from my company was working with me at the pant on a pump problem. I suggested that he go for lunch. I had his badge pulled. He was dangerous and my responsibility. He belonged at a desk in an office building.
Aptitude is a big factor. I joined the navy to be an electronics tech. The navy needed machinist mates. Testing shows I have strong mechanical aptitude compared to electrical. Really good at chemistry too.
There was a time when many electrical control devices were mechanical. Then came solid state. How does the voltage regulator work on my generator? PFM! Pure effin magic!
Real world engineering. You are assigned a task and then figure it out. I have tried saying I am not an EE. Then I do it and send it to a EE for review. It is funny to get schooled by an expert.
Bill Nye the science lie. He is his own worst enemy. I am so tired of these rich people who live lavish lifestyles telling others to suffer and cut back. They are all hypocrites and then they mystified that the public dismiss them and their phony messages.
I’m amazed they haven’t huddled up to think through what really went wrong. They’ve just gotten mad! Hill’s book “What Happened” would have maybe been a useful start if it had a question mark or or exclamation mark in the title. She had a few dozen different people and countries that she blamed for her demise, not even suspecting for a moment that it could just be her fault and what she represents.
Nye is behaving exactly the same. The folks and their party will be out for a generation or two at this rate. Apparently millennial are coming over to Trump! I think they like the iconoclastic aspect elites were too phoney and boring.
Lefties DO huddle up, but when they put their arms around each other they get sidetracked and forget why they came. And the next morning’s embarrassment turns into anger. Does that help?
F.Leghorn: There are now guidelines to avoid that kind of thing. NBC issued them. (Guess they can’t afford to lose any more people.)
“WTF Happened”
Piper Paul, exactly! That’s what the book should have been called if she had an honest thought in her head!!
Scratch a shiny green progressive and underneath you will find a dark totalitarian. ALWAYS.
Nye makes the AGW crowd look bad. He is not an expert on climate or anything scientific. He would make an okay high school science teacher, that’s it.
“He would make an okay high school science teacher, that’s it.”
He would get eaten alive (figuratively of course).
Why “of course”?
Wouldn’t want students with food poisoning.
That’s why cow with “mad cow disease” are not eaten but disposed of.
How odd that not one of the normal AGW stalwarts has come out to defend Silly Billy. 😉
Imposing defacto economic sanctions on red states for a generation or more is exactly what led to the vote for Trump. If you “progressives” (sic indeed) don’t get more introspective about why you were turfed out on your a55e5 in the election and make some huge changes, you guys will out be of office for a couple of generations and then you’ll have to learn how to work for a living instead of thatching your nests without taxpayers money. Maybe the red states will put a huge tax on fossil fuels that you need by the tankerloads in your global travel, destructive agendas, multiple homes and big cars.
What in heck do you think you have in the blue coastal fringe that you can hold back from the red states to punish them? That’s the trouble with you out of touch ugly, mean folks, you’ve dumbed yourselves down with your own policies. Talking points and Alinsky rules arent going to cut it in the newly changed world. I think things are so out of whack with “progressives” that new thinking blood in your party will have to rise one funeral at a time, if I can borrow from Max Planck’s view on how science advances.
The Democrat party consoles itself with the idea that all the bitter old white guys who support the Republicans will die off. The thing is that we have an upcoming generation who don’t get solid permanent jobs. Their lives are permanently precarious. They get no support from the Democrat elite who view them as unworthy. The Republicans have the opportunity to pick up those people, make their lives better, and govern for decades. It really is the economy stupid.
And they fail to see their own leadership of recent years, Al Gore, Harry Reid, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton as the rich old white men that they are.
The irony, of course, is that he is admitting that the solution to his problem (no matter how imaginary) is capitalism.
Sorry Bill, couldn’t find the right colour. But here’s a new bow tie for you.
Andy, how many megawatts is that?
Minus 50% at least.
Oh and Bill? Take off that cheery bow tie if your going to walk around with your face two feet long and steam coming out of your ears. I think you’re still mad about finding out you werent the right demographic to lead the March for Pseudo Science Matters parade last summer.
“In the video Bill Nye also said “we’ve got to get everybody working together, the same way people were working together in world war 2“.”
Well, because of course, WW2 was an ACTUAL serious problem otherwise he would be speaking a language other than English.
If you don’t defeat the AGW ‘one-world government’, anti-capitalist Agenda,…
…. who knows what language you will be speaking !!
Cantonese, Mandarin or both? I know I can configure a IBM PS/2 with Kanji BIOS. Does that count?
Mugabe may be UN secretary general by then !
“AndyG55 December 31, 2017 at 4:00 am”
Mugabe is gone, with his estimated US$90bil fortune, shame about his army and “mates”. Most Zimbabeweans are jubilant Mugabe is “gone”, however his “legacy”, and his “bullyboy-i-got-an-ak47-so-do-as-i-say” mates, will be around for a long long time to come IMO.
“AndyG55 December 31, 2017 at 4:00 am”
Helen Clarke of NZ and Rudd of Aus trashed both countries to secure a position at the UN. Not heard about either suggests they were successful.
Don’t be concerned….. There are plenty of despots looking for the job !!
Despots truly are a renewable resource.
We truly live in Orwellian times, engage means accept our dictatorial terms – no debate allowed. Segregation is now safe spaces, and bigotry, via white privilege classes and the like, is acceptable. Do we live in the 21st century or are we back to the mid to early 20th? In Orwellian double speak progressivism is merely another word for totalitarianism and Bill Nye seems to enjoy his jack boots!
Reply to Patrick MJD,
Helen Clarke of New Zealand lost an an election to John Key of the National party ( right of center ) nine years ago and immediately resigned and took up a top job at the UN.
She stood for the Secretary General of the UN but was unsuccessful even though Keys govervment supported her .
After nine years of strong government lead by Key the National party was defeated in last years election when a few weeks out the Labour party (Democrats ) changed their leader to a 37 year old women Jacinda Ardern .
Although the Labour party recived less votes than National, through a quirk in our MMP voting system they are our new government in a coalition .
I will stick my neck out and predict that when Jacinda loses an election she to will head to the UN .
It is well known that Helen Clarke still has a great deal of influence in the New Zealand Labour party
Yes – very likely but not before she stuffs the country- already appointed James Shaw (Green Party) as Climate Change minister.
agreed She is on pretty shaky ground leading a mish mash bunch of lefty green and right leaning politicans – so as a Helen acolyte she will likely follow in her footsteps
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What’s a real worry, esp in schools here in Australia, he is shown to students as a genuine science guy. The number of times my daughter comes home telling me about one of his videos she say that day. One thing I am glad about, she, usually, can’t recall the actual subject of the video. That demonstrates to me that either she isn’t too smart (She is smart, she speaks 4 languages and she is only 10) or that the subject matter is so boring to the extreme, she completely ignores it.
The man is a fool. I dont read or view anything he originates, and encourage others to do likewise.
Ha ha. The eco-commie states are going to lay the big stick on the states that believe in economic growth and energy abundance by hobbling their own eco-state economies into utter non-competitiveness. “If you don’t do what I say I’m going to shoot myself in the knee!”
Like a kid holding his breath during a temper tantrum. In both cases, they’ll just end up gasping for air.
The child passes out if you wait long enough and the child is persistent enough. Do you think Bill might actually pass out?
What is he really saying? What he is saying is,He is saying he will impose the violent, military tactic of blockade.What he is saying is, “if you do not allow us to control everything you do (which is what control of power and what you may do with it is), we will HURT YOUR CHILDREN”.
(Snipped out the obvious libel statement made against Bill N) MOD
Does this sound extreme? Well, if he has his way, you will be out of a job, then homeless and starving, how will that effect your family, your children? How is what he is saying any different in effect than a military blockade?
Meanwhile, if it is war they want…the red states should cut off their power, see how long they can last with “green power” (which is neither green (see birdchoppers, sometimes known as windmills, which should be named deathmills) nor power, see S. Australia.
And, since he is calling for blockade, war, can he be picked up right now for treason? And he has now put himself right in the path of the interstate commerce clause.
The AGW conjecture depends on the existance of a radiant greenhouse effect provided by trace gases in the Earth’s atmosphere with LWIR absorption bands. A radiant greenhouse effect has not been observed in a real greenhouse, on Earth, or anywhere else in the solar system. The radiant greenhouse effect is sceince finction. Hence the AGW conjecture is sceince fiction. It is a matter of sceince. Bile Nye his hence a science deneier.
I think it is very revealing that Nye mentions conservative groups that aren’t falling for the scam that are continuing to use science and logic to determine the truth.
This is because much of the hoax is useful to leftists who virtue signal off the back of it, whilst the more radical marxists need global warming to be a reality to further western civilisation failure.
Science aside, this is a big part of what we are looking at here.
What do you do when all the propaganda that your all quadrillion$ can buy is failing, and conservative groups and an awakening general public work out that it’s all a giant hoax?
The good old fall-back position – in a word –”Mandatory”.
Way to go, Bill
Nye mentions New York, California and Illinois as the places where “progressive” voters are taking climate action. Let’s see…
https://www.brookings.edu/research/growth-carbon-and-trump-state-progress-and-drift-on-economic-growth-and-emissions-decoupling/
Texas has had one of the fastest decarbonizations among US states since 2000; only four economically-small states (plus DC) have done better. New York is a little bit behind Texas, California is way behind (in line with the national average), and Illinois just barely avoids dead-last place. The fact that Texas has *also* had faster economic growth than any of these places is the cherry on top.
The conclusion is obvious: climate leader Texas should impose economic sanctions on climate laggards like California and Illinois.
Mind you Texas is using Carbon capture from coal to enhance oil recovery and making a huge profit out of it. New York and California won’t allow production of fossil fuels. I’m a mining man and even I could produce oil like crazy in California. These idiots are just letting these resources ooze out on the seafloor.
http://www.soscalifornia.org/natural-oil-seepage-facts/
I predict a Republican government will soon get elected there when they see the economies of other states growing under Trump policies. They’ll make CA a huge oil producer and they’ll never look back. The economic benefits Cali gets from Trump will be sucked by the Looney state government and thats when they will knock themselves out! They’ll be a new kind of red. Maybe Hollywood will shut up, too. Why is it know-nothings are so attracted to policy making?
The Left is always very shouty. Deep down they know the facts are against them and this produces enormous pain.
Same old same old complaining about fossil-fuel funding of skeptical views without ever naming names, when there are so many skeptics lining up to say they’ve never received any such monies but would love to get some.
He is also one of those apparently in denial about why Trump won and not realising why doubling down on insulting the voters and making threats is possibly the best way to lose the next election too.
Having said that, he did make an interesting remark about not particularly blaming Trump directly, but blaming his advisers instead. That seems like a new tack. Might it possibly be the beginning of an admission that the previous tactics weren’t working?
In the 50s we thought McCarthy was an idiot….
Only the liberals thought he was an idiot.
They still do.
All of them? The vote was 65 to 22, as I said, the liberals hated him.
I’m guessing that English isn’t your first language, “enough” in that sentence modifies the noun idiot.
You wrote “All of McCarthy’s fellow Senators”, that’s a declaration that opposition to McCarthy was 100%, it was not.
Rob, you are making the common mistake in believing that Republican equals conservative.
Especially back then, many Republicans were to the left of many Democrats. Especially the northeastern ones.
To me, it seems there are professional liars one this planet . . ; )
This is what happens, when zealots and “activists” (the p.c. euphemism for fanatics) hijack science!
They declare war on skeptics becaus they are in possession of the only “true” truth!
In the frontline you will always find convinced, quasi religious believers like Bill Nye, whose expertise as engineer makes him omniscientl!
Bill Nye the denier guy. What’s next Bill? A “final solution” to the climate skeptics problem?
Actually Nye is not only a faux scientist but apparently he is also ignorant of the constitution.
Like Captain Queeg on the stand, if a climate fanatic speaks long enough their madness, ignorance and hatred shows through.
Nye has spoken more than long eniugh.
https://youtu.be/CLUZ0Nv7UH4
I would say Bill Nye also has steel balls but then does he really have any balls at all?
Either way he will be the last of his line so who really cares?
He knows not what he does. He didn’t come up with that economic warfare idea – he’s a mouthpiece for someone else.
The Interstate Commerce Clause will have a few things to say about Nye’s latest plan to take over the world.
https://youtu.be/mYvAYwpUDv8
STOP! This is real, serial!
I think that was already attempted with the clean power plan. The new tax reform plan will hit wealthy folks in certain high tax blue states (CA, NY, CT and IL) pretty hard however.
Tax and spend leftys at the state and local levels have essentially been subsidized by the Federal Gov through the tax deductions. This is a positive development in my opinion. Local policies that are economically invalid and furthering the left’s agenda will no longer be painless. It probably will result in an acceleration of the exodus of the ownership class from these states, and/or a change in voting habits and politicians.
If nothing else, it’s going to hit those companies that have moved their headquarters to high tax states, very hard.
Its nearly that time down here, so..
Happy New Year to all those who want it. 🙂
May the CO2 be with you in all its glorious life-giving forms…… especially bubbles. 🙂
And may America continue to keep holding all the Trump cards. 🙂
Happy New year to you AndyG55.
Here in Indiana I got up at 03:30. Temp was -2 F. Three hours later it was 2 deg F. Total darkness but the temp climbed 4 deg. in 3 hours. Why? It’s about to snow! A little clipper coming down from the NW. Let’s see CO2 do that!
I just watched Earth from Space on SBS or whatever it was called, and it was actually OK…..until the last 5 minutes, and I lost interest. Yup! Humans are bad, CO2 is the problem. Even though they demonstrate that CO2 is a minor driver of anything. Water is the major driver of everything.
Happy NY to you and yours Andy. An hour to go, and my wife is working a night shift!
Happy New Year Andy!…and may all your Wadhams be white
What is funny is that taxes and debt loads have already been running people and businesses out of the Blue states Nye wants to impose sanctions on the other states. Once the effects of the new tax bill kick in and start hurting it is reasonable to assume that exodus will increase.
Taxes will hit the elites because they don’t do anything productive to deduct expenses from. Also enriching oneself off the taxpayer is an industry in peril. A couple of unit downloads of wink-wink consultants to government and the greenback-snorting Greens will be on the street hey-buddy-can-you-spare-a-diming it.
Trump has to be sure to make anything going against government policy non deductible for tax purposes. Let’s see how generous and altruistic these “progressives” are in their regressive tailspin. Bloomberg gave 5he UN 15 million chump change. He didnt get any followers. He wont be pitching in to make up 350 big ones Trump slashed from the UN contribution.
Cutting cash flow to elites, disallowing tax breaks to non charitable charitable foundations and private donors, “consultants” NGOs, regulations experts-accountants and other diddling middling rip off artists – hey, he’s going to balance the budget, too!
“but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;” US Constitution Article 1 Section 8
Numpty needs to learn to read before coming up with a socio-economic plan…..
Did Bill Nye miss the fact that it’s 2017, not 1789 and we are now ruled by the Constitution and not the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union? Under the latter States could do what he wants under the Constitution they cannot.
This Nye person has the attitude of an islamist. Nothing less.
TO George E.Smith –
Your comment about the senate not being a representative body (each person having their vote acknowledged) is correct. However, until a constitutional amendment was passed the senate was designed to represent the States – with the senators elected by the state governing bodies and not a popular contest. There was a constitutional amendment that changed that in the 1950s – 1960s. Until that the senate had one vote – one person as the rule.
Might be nice to go back to that.
That 17th Amendment was ratified in 1913. And I agree we NEED to go back to that.
The 17th amendment was ratified in 1913. Popular votes apply to all national elections as of of Nov. 1914.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
The popular vote doesn’t apply to the presidential election.
Tea baggers, Hillbillies, Deniers, Deplorables, Clingers, gun nuts, Racists, Sexists, Homophobes, Islamophobes, Neo-Nazis, etc, etc, etc.
And on and on it goes in a seemingly never ending quest to adapt or make up new words to insult.
Most leftists are remarkably similar to rebellious, obnoxious teenagers.
First I thought this is the last straw to proof him a dyed in the wool, knuckle dragging Eco-Nazi , but then I realized this can’t be true! These are misinformed idiots, but he is doubtlessly smart enough to know that the bovine mature he utters is beyond any reason. He can’t be THAT dumb! It is pure hatred and malice against anybody who doesn’t agree the sun shines out of end of his digestion tract.
That would be OK (Well, more likely tolerable for the very patient ones), if he wouldn’t be so influential, especial to young gullible intellectually vulnerable people.
However, HNY to everyone on this blog! Got to get out now to shovel some global warming off my drive way.
Mr. Nye is an actor. Proving that he doesn’t understand political science either is not a good idea.
It is not uncertain that this is not a small world after all.
I have a better idea – all those climate concerned states should form a union and secede from the United States. They should call their new nation the Climate Confederacy, and since Blacks are notoriously unconcerned about global warming (a fact strenuously avoided mention of by left wingers) they should be banned from the new nation. Their main source of income will be in renting out their no-longer-illegal aliens as servants, laborers, and cleanup folks to the states still in the Union, and other nations (this would not represent much of a change.). They should then nationalize the Tesla Motor Company and force it to produce electric volkswagons (people’s cars) , using the abundent cheap alien labor. Bill Nye, of course, will be Secretary of Science and proclaim scientific truths, upon demand. The Office of Propaganda will consist of the LA Times, the NY Times, the Wash Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS. They will join the Paris Climate Treaty, not as a donor country but as a recipient nation – an extra source of income. The country will draft all able bodied men/transgenders,sexual whatevers into the Forest Fire Fighting Corps (the FFF). They must supply their own buckets and hoses.
The physical properties of every sphere are the same…cooler on one side, warmer on the other, and rotating spheres exposed to the sun are in a constant state of change. Claiming that the sphere is now “warmer” or “cooler” is as irrelevant to reality as thinking that the earth is flat.
Nye’s idea of sanctions are frequent blackouts, tripling of electric bills, business closures due to high electric costs, large medical bills for those who can ill afford heat and food.
What was his mother thinking…
Bill Nye the Clueless Guy:
Clueless about the science
Clueless about logic
Clueless about the Constitution
Clueless about Skeptics/Climate Realists
Clueless about economics
Clueless about why CAGW is losing the Climate War
Etc. Etc.
He is one of the finest examples of the DK Syndrome ever.
What a nasty man. Insulting those who aren’t at his dinner parties and demanding civil war in the USA.
Great pic with the head post.
Bill Nye gives that “go ahead, make my day” look while wearing his cute little bow tie and leaves all the “hillbillies” shaking in their boots …. with laughter!
Please don’t pat him on the top of the head ’cause he means business!
It wasn’t the fossil fuel industry influencing us hillbillies. It was the rebranding of the term global warming, the NOAA falsification of surface temps, the 10+ year lack of major hurricane landfall, and the failure of every alarmist prediction over the past 20 years to occur. Maybe in another 20 years, the rest of the US will see climate change for the snake oil that it is.
Perhaps Bill and the alarmists could outline the actual percentage by which they believe the climate has changed?
It would be helpful to know in advance of any debate.
You wonder how many skeptics are as or more qualified on the subject, or a science-based field in general as Bill Nye. As a fellow ME, I’d like to see a just a list of how many of his skeptical peers he likes to call “hillbillies”. Granted, most of us haven’t been paid to make balloon animals on a kid’s show.
Trofim Lysenko would be proud of what Bill Nye and David Suzuki are peddling these days.
“I’d like to see a just a list of how many”…should be “I’d like to see a list of just how many…”
My second cup of coffee hasn’t kicked in yet. 😉
Bill, the US runs on democratic principles. So if only 40% of the citizens think Congress should be addressing climate change, meaning 60% don’t think they should be, then the 40% lose. Also, I believe some states passing laws that imposing economic sanctions overtly or by default would be a violation of the interstate commerce clause of the Constitution, meaning those states would likely lose if they tried to impose their ‘progressive’ ideas on other states.
Nye the Lyin’ Guy knows less about the Constitution than he does about science in general and climatology in particular..
In Article 1, Section 8, the Constitution specifically grants the Federal Government the enumerated power to regulate interstate commerce. Accordingly, it would be illegal/unconstitutional for Blue states to impose economic sanctions on Red States.
The 9th and 10th Amendements (States/Individual Rights) only allow states and individuals to excerices powers NOT specifically ENUMERATED to the Federal government…
Nye is such an idiot.
The progressives have weaponized the IRS and the FBI, why not do the same with the blue states. Seems like a logical next step.
Global warming is supposed to be caused by global greenhouse gas emissions. Yet I do not see any mention of the other countries with 96% of the global population and 87% of global emissions. The developing countries, with over 80% of the global population, have not signed up to decrease their emissions. Most, like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and most African of the 50+ nations will increase emissions for decades to come.
Further, fossil fuels are abundant. Proven reserves of oil, gas and coal, when burnt, will produce around three times the 1000GtO2e of emissions the IPCC reckons will produce 2C of warming, yet fossil fuels only account for two-thirds of global emissions. I produced a chart showing in terms of emissions where the major proven reserves of fossil fuels are located.
To reach the targets to prevent “dangerous global warming”, Around 75% of all proven reserves of fossil fuels must be left in the ground. I am not aware of anyone even broaching the subject with Russia, Saudi Arabia, China, Iran, Iraq, India, Indonesia, Ukraine, etc. – let alone seriously tabling any sort of binding agreement. I am sure a dose of Bill Nye will cause them to cooperate fully.
While the Bill and others enter into the discussions about leaving fossil fuels in the ground, they should remember that there are at least 3 times the potential emissions from unproven, but likely reserves – and maybe over 20 times. This is speculative, but the estimates of the past few decades have always underestimated these figures.
https://manicbeancounter.com/2017/11/22/the-supply-side-of-climate-mitigation-is-toothless/
“Climate change denying states”
People – not states – ‘deny.’
Mr. Nye reveals his collectivist, statist agenda. Climate change is not about the environment. It is a weapon in the war to get us to accept socialism.
Exactly and a larger world government. Anyone with any political acumen and a knowledge of history can see that it is a political/social ploy to justify the transfer for more wealth and assets from the private sector to government control. The moment I became interested in climate science was when I realized how many politicians were supporting the meme.
What united countries like Britain and the USA in WW2 was a militant fascist threat.
Bill Nye is indeed exactly that – a militant fascist. So he can indeed aspire to unite the fighters for freedom to smash the yoke of ecofascism. Bring it on, Billy!
Didn’t know I was a “hillbilly” up here in Wyoming? Y’all come see us sometime, hear.
His use of the derogatory term “hillbilly” is both an ethnic slur against those of scots-irish descent who settled in the Appalachia region, as well as an ignorant slur of Skeptics. The stereotypical “hillbilly” for the most part has vanished, existing only in popular culture. In a general sense, it is also a slur against those who reside in more rural areas. What a miserable excuse for a human being he is.
exactly…..the same people that would be screaming their heads off….throw those slurs around at will
…and at the very least would drag you into court for using it
Needs to have the tables turned on them big time….
By far, the most bigoted people I have ever met, have been liberals.
eloquently stated as the hillbillies.
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I’m reliably told by a retired professor of agriculture in the Midwest that:
1. most farmers know more about climate than most phd’s. those farmers that don’t are called bankrupt not hillbillies.
2. most farmers don’t believe in global warming or climate change as anything more than a tax grab from Washington all dressed up to look real by government scientists and Hollywood celebrities.
3. most farmers know that throwing money at Washington has never solved anything. the climate changes, you plant something different next year.
What Bill Nye doesn’t seem to realize is that we fought the war he wants in early November of 2016. HIs side lost, thankfully.
He doesn’t accept the outcome. He sees himself as a crusader to save the ignorant masses from rejecting his government approved religion. And if he has to trash the Constitution in the process, he is fine with that.
You can tell he has spent a great deal of time thinking this through. He has had 14 months to ponder this. And this is the best he can come up with. That is an indictment of how much firepower he has between his ears.
Ah Billy boy..yer getting long in the tooth. There’s more time behind you, than in front of you.
Not much time left…and you have lived under a lot of stress for a long time. You worry so much…then all of sudden.
Your gasping for air, and the lies you been pumping out, are getting harder and harder to tell.
Careful about curses…
This is what happens when an engineer by degree thinks he earned a climatologist degree just because he played a scientist part on a Television Show. Please let the fool know that we understand from real scientists that there was an Ice Age, A Mini Ice Age, days of the dinosaur. Oh and frankly when it’s warmer more things grow…….the poles have not melted and frankly if they do the people would just move to new areas. As they have done for many thousands of years……what a kook.
I don’t get the whole Nye thing as he’s not really heard of this part of the world. Do people actually listen to this guy
Zero
So much for the 1st Amendment. This is a blatant attack on individual thought. There is NOTHING ‘settled’ about the scientific study of global warming.
Oh, but don’t forget: conservatives have “weaponized” the First Amendment. Yep, I actually see that being said now. Because unless you think the right thoughts and say the right things, you’re a bad person – unlike e.g. Louis C.K. who said Trump was the same as Hitler. Louis is an awesome human being because of that – right? And war is peace, and freedom is slavery.
Don’t you know, there’s a hate speech exception to the first amendment, all the liberals I know have told me this.
Of course liberals define anything they disagree with as hate speech.
The supreme court, when it upheld McCain/Feinstein ruled that there is a governmental interest that overrides the first amendment as well.
I suppose Bill Nye is suggesting California will withhold shipping Tesla vehicles to hillbillies as part of his economic retribution. Once Tesla figures out how to make them I suppose.
California already imposes its ideas on the rest of us (and not with Festivus)
If you look at automotive mileage, air conditioning efficiency, furnace emissions, appliance ratings, etc you’ll see that because of their huge market, the state is able drag the rest of the country with them on their green mandates.
I loved him as the Science Guy but now he is far beyond the pale. He has put up his tent on the playground of incompetence.
Mr. Nye is correct when he says states like California have voted progressive on climate change. But warning others who may disagree is a fool’s errand. It’s entirely possible that California voters will change their votes as the cost of what they’ve voted for becomes clearer. Also, if skeptics are proven right about the futility of chasing a red herring becomes clear, the Bill Nyes of the world will have their comeuppance.
Germany is somewhat ahead of California in their efforts to phase out fossil fuels. As the costs mount up it will be interesting to see whether the political support for this changes. I wouldn’t be surprised if it did.
Bill Nye has been Trumped.
Yes, he has. Bill Nye is old news.
Perfect. Those who still have rational and sane energy policies will benefit from lower costs. The market (global) will take care of these economic sanctions because the best price / quality ratio usually wins across the entire market over time.
Bill Nye the Idiot Guy can FOAD.
Are you saying he is FUBAR or just TU?
Bill Nye is a Progressive Supremacist who would justify genocide to impose progressive tyranny.
Forget the miniscule and of no significance fringe of neo nazis or white supremacists.
Progressive Supremacy is the biggest hate movement there is.
They wear their noble cause corruption as a badge of honor.
Interesting concept, worth fleshing out.
“Hillbillies”? Nye, you ivory-tower elitist SCUMBAG.
Again, for anyone who might be interested, my petition to the PM of Canada (plus Minister of Natural Resources and Premiers of Provinces) is still up at change.org, stalled at 10 signatures. Little help would be very much appreciated; contains a point relevant to the notion of the desperation of those in the mainstream narrative wanting unbelievers punished, viz David Suzuki:
https://www.change.org/p/the-honourable-james-gordon-carr-minister-of-natural-resources-open-letter-to-the-government-of-canada-re-climate-change
Even the conservatives in canaduH are on board with the Paris agreement. When I asked conservative candidate Kellie Leitch her opinion on AGW, she said ” it’s a bunch of crap” she lost and was pushed to the back bench of parliament. The new leader is just liberal light and is destined to lose the next election. A weenie
I wrote the PC leader and asked if he and his members would be interested, but wasn’t expecting much. I LOVED Harper because all his concessions to climate hysteria were exactly that: concessions. The CBC and other mainstream media outlets had him in their sights the moment his candidacy was declared – an upstart Western conservative, from Calgary no less? MUST be “stopped.” And they succeeded of course, because children in adult bodies throughout the land are good little lockstep zombies and do exactly what they’re told to do. Orwell would have known exactly what to think.
Anyway I also wrote the United Conservatives to see if I could muster some signatures, but of course it’s holidays so who knows what will happen when they eventually get the email…I try to have faith, futile or not.
And you know what I really think, seeing what has happened to politics in our countries? I think the USA might split. I think Canada has a lesser chance, but as you know it’s been talked about a lot in the West.
You know what else? I think we SHOULD split. You can’t be trillions in debt and still have producers giving half their income to non-producers while the economy gets gutted by greentards, and expect to avoid having to learn Mandarin one day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Bill Nye has become a parody of himself. I’m surprised there isn’t a cartoon version of him yet, for the kiddos.
A cartoon would make it even easier for him to fake lab experiments.
I dunno, I wouldn’t want children exposed to the contempt for humanity you can see burning in his eyes.
There has been for a long time. Just watch this and think Bill Nye
The resemblance is uncanny. Separated at birth?
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The beaks sure are close in size.
I am proud to be a hillbillie
Pure genius, what does he think will happen to the blue states if the red ones retaliate in kind, they’re F’d.
I’ll see Bill Nye’s “hillbillies”, and raise him alarmist thermobillies.
Backwoods thinking about heating effects of CO2 are so ignorant, y’all.
Come and let me tell ya ‘story
’bout a man named Nye
poor stupid fool
barely kep’ his brain alive
and then one day he
was mouthin’ off his view
and up from his mind
came his bum-bl-ing brew —
words, that is,
horse manure,
zombie tea.
[banjo music interlude]
lol 🙂
Heh!
+10
… and I’m from the South USA, by the way.
Check the population numbers for those Blue States. They tend to be losing population due to the policies implemented by the liberals running them.
There already is an economic war between the blue and red states and the blue states are losing.
Here’s the problem though. These people don’t change their minds when they leave… they do their damnedest to turn their new place into the same “utopia” they just left. It’s not so much fleeing the insanity, it’s infection.
Oh Dear! Now I’m a Deplorable Hillbilly!
I’m sooooo ‘triggered’, I’m going to pour a second cup of covfefe and go feed the squirrels.
Howdy J. Dem squirrels make mighty fine vittles.
Squirrel can’t hold a candle to possum. Yum !
Fresh road kill, anyone?
What’s the difference between a hillbilly and a thermobilly? … Hillbillies eat the possum. Thermobillies protect the possum as an endangered species threatened by human-caused, CO2-heat-inducing climate change.
Bill Nye use to be a scientist, he realises that as in any other natural process so in the lunacy stakes there are different degrees of intensity. As a man of a considerable self assurance and arrogance he will not miss the opportunity to climb up the path of intellectual lunacy until he is at the pinnacle, well above any other lunatic, and there are many, it is a matter of the personal prestige for him.
He has to contend with “Doctor” David Suzuki, who is in his 80s now and declared in his 30s that “humans are the same as maggots.” It went downhill from there while his income skyrocketed, because as any keen observer knows, crazy is catching.
BTW guys, talk is cheap, actions speak louder. PLEASE consider signing my petition to the Government of Canada:
https://www.change.org/p/the-honourable-james-gordon-carr-minister-of-natural-resources-open-letter-to-the-government-of-canada-re-climate-change.
If you feel there is something wrong with it, I am open to suggestions as to how to improve it.
Signed. Thank you, Michael.
To say “renewable” intermittent grids are “cheaper and more reliable” is preposterous. But then we’re talking about Bill Nye.
Today, the situation is so serious that the GW skeptics should be punished personally, and over time the penalties will only increase. Of course, only the responsible politicians are concerned, because in these positions idiocy is no longer tolerable.
Is this sarcasm? If not, rest assured: we will fight back.
“We’ll be the victims of irrational ideology. They will try to dictate to us how to live, what to do, how to behave. How to eat, travel, and what my children should have. This is something that we who lived in the communist era for most of our lives feel very strongly about. We are very sensitive in this respect. And we see various similarities in their way of arguing or not arguing. In their way of pushing ahead ideas regardless of rational counter-arguments.”
– Vaclav Klaus.
Delightful – we are to have our rights stripped away because we don’t agree with Mihaly.
Those who are not skeptic should prove so by presenting a paper showing empirically that CO2 causes warming in our convective atmosphere.
If you cannot do so, you must be either a religious kook for believing in a fantasy, or a closet skeptic.
Which are you Mihaly?
I did not say anything wrong, it is necessary to understand that there may be an emergency in the course of history, for example, during the Second World War all the Germans had been deported in England and this was not a fascism, also.
On the other hand, there is no need to prove everything if there is a high risk, politicians have decided to ban freons, so scientists have still asked for research.
Otherwise, my comment was not intended as a proposal but as a political forecast.
So Mihaly,
… you only have your worthless opinion and an overdose from some hallucinogenic substance…
mixed with a socialist totalitarian “I am the greatest” non-personality.
Crawl back under your rock. !
Now I notice that there is no comment to support on Nye, obviously I missed in the fools’ house, sorry.
Acting without evidence is idiocy. Taking drastic measures just because someone is screaming that there is a danger is idiocy.
Then again, most people who believe that government is the solution to all problems are idiots.
I just repeat. There is no need to prove everything if there is a high risk, politicians have decided to ban freons, so scientists have still asked for research. Then if our grandchildren are to drown in a few years, will we tell them that there was not enough evidence?
Hey, Nye! You idiot!!! I live in Illinois, you psychotic birdbrain. Just try sanctioning me or anyone else. I dare you!!! I double dog dare you! If you weren’t so utterly incompetent, you might not be so alarmingly stupid. You moronic loon. If you had a brain, which you don’t, you’d know when to shut your stupid mouth.
Go ahead, try to sanction me, Nye. Make my day.
Take a chill pill Sara. He thinks Illinois is a blue state and will be doing the sanctioning of the other states in the Midwest that are growing while Illinois stagnates. Bill thinks because Chicago is solidly blue, the rest of the state is condemned to the idiotic policies that keeps Chicago on the brink of insolvency, while dealing with rampant crime.
Let Nye speak all he wants. Give him the largest possible megaphone. The working class in middle America does not share his values, and his pejoratives, do not convince them he is right. All the things that Nye wants to diminish and take away from them, are the things they know are important to them. They do not have the required time and skills to debunk the Onion of Lies that the left uses to lure them to the dark-side. Start calling them names, and they will not forget that, on election day.
Bill thinks it is smart to double-down on the “Deplorables” insult. Because insulting people is such an effective way to convince them you have their best interest at the top of your agenda.
When people don’t respect your “science-guy” shtick anymore, directing negative pejoratives at them will not make it better. And it shows a very low IQ that he thinks that it would.
That “deplorable” quote of Hillary’s may well have been the straw that broke the back of Hillary’s campaign.
Never has so tone deaf a politician come so far in our Republic. It took a concerted effort by the DNC to keep Dean from winning, as revealed in a recent book.
I had several acquaintances who were cultural Democrats, That is they voted Democrat more because that is what their family has always done. In recent years they have been getting more and more disatisfied with the direction their party had been going. Many of them were sympathetic with Trump’s stated positions, but they still couldn’t bring themselves to actually pull the lever for one of them Republicans.
When Hillary described those who support Trump and his positions as deplorable, they realized at last what the Democrat leadership actually thought regarding them and people like them.
Most of them will not be returning to the Democrat column any time soon.
Bill Nye is just blowing smoke, Sara. Don’t take him seriously.
Bill Nye must be talking about Nazi Germany, Japan, Italy when he talks about how we all worked together because a world without oil would result in incredible death by starvation, no ambulances, no fire engines, no transport for goods, drug shortages, 80% of clothing gone, frozen people everywhere and of course the poor, old, children and disabled would pay the highest price. His ideas would make Hitler blush.
I couldn’t think of anything constructive to say, so I guess I’ll just STFU.
Bill Nye is living proof that there is no limit to human stupidity. Not sure if Einstein actually said this but if he had ever heard Nye he probably would have.
OMG. His economic role models include “progressive” Illinois?? I’m sure TX would be terrified at being sanctioned.
And the People’s Republic of CA? The people with the significant advantage of containing Silicon Valley but are nonetheless functionally bankrupt, and unable to provide their People with water and power – much of which is produced outside state lines. If AZ closed the inter connector, they would be swamped by refugees.
“The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies.”
Whatever happened to deplorables Bill? Struggling with ADHD mate. Make up your mind with the global warming, climate change, extreme weather, ocean acidification, coral bleaching, yada, yada….
I am reminded that George Washington went to war against the original hillbillies, US version. They had been his most effective troops in the revolutionry war, being sharpshooters with their Kentucky Long Rifles. They also suffered for this, because British counter-tactics were more effective than Yankees admit. Bayonets are fearsome weapons at close range in the woods.
Washington was sent to collect tax from the hill-williams’ whisky sales, the only cash they ever saw. Not like the Swamp dwellers of the center of power. jUST LIKE NOW, UNTIL TRUMP….
Democrat-controlled states are already in economic battle, because they’re wasting money on high-price energy. They’re volunteering to lose.
Who is “we” ? What is “this” … that “we” are all in ?
“We” must be an imaginary population that exists only in the mind of the “science guy” (now science-fiction guy). “This” must be an imaginary crisis that exists only in the imaginary population that exists only in the mind of the science-fiction guy.
It is supremely arrogant to picture every living human as a part of this “we”, to say nothing of supremely ignorant.
Bill, please start studying science again, in order to reclaim some dignity outside of your own imagination. Obviously, I do not have any respect for you, … but I could, if you represented any reasonable vestige of “science”.
Bring on legal action. Then we will have to finally have a full and open debate. Nye will have to find some actual evidence to support the hypothesis.
Will he do a Michael Mann and refuse to hand over evidence and hope the flagrant contempt of court is ignored?
Hopefully Nye finds himself destroyed by his own stupidity.
Bring it on.
When do the settled pseudoscience lynchings begin?
Go Bill!
So Billy’s contribution to new year peace and goodwill is to try to start the US civil war 2.0?
What a WKNAER!
Speaking of WWII, Bill should be careful what he asks for.
Here is my plan if given wartime powers to reduce ghg.
Day one, runback fossil power plants to 50% and close all gas stations.
Day two, issue ration cards to all police, military, power company workers, and first responders. Send them out to turn off power after checking that no one would die without power. Starting with the rich and powerful.
Day three, start issuing ration cars for power and gas. The first issued would be those that can show a pay stub for an income less than $40k. One qualifying question. Are you skeptical of CAGW claims requiring a police state?
The net result is the likes of Bull Nye, Al Gore, Obama, and the Clintons will have to leave the country to get energy. Yes, they will have to walk and I hope it is really cold.
Fascinating how class based your solution is.
Why is it that for some people, no matter what the problem, striking out at those who have more than they do is always part of the solution?
What???
Since when are hypocrites a class of people?
While my solution may be over the top, it is my opinion that the last person on his block to get power restored after a natural disaster should be the CEO of the power company.
There is a good reason too. It is his professional responsibility.
I even have a funny story on that score. After an ice storm, many were without power after several days. Our utility restored power cliquey because damage was less severe than areas farther north. Watching the news, the focus was on those without power.
One of our engineers lived in a high end subdivision that included a predominate politician. We were still surprised that he was without power and he was surprised that the rest of us has power restored quickly.
Turns out no one called that they had lost power.
Renewable energy is a fine thing on a personal basis. If you don’t want to buy power from the local energy company, fine! Make your own. But no one should be forced to embrace it. I use renewable energy, the nearest power lines are over a mile away as the crow flies. But i also use gasoline when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.
California wants to impose sanctions on me? Fine. Remind me not to buy any firewood from California…..
I am an amateur observer, and I have more of a grasp on climate than Bow-tie-Nye. I have a better grasp of reality in general than him as well from what I have seen from him of late.
Stay warm! Happy New Year!
He gets creepier and creepier with time.
I wonder if he will finally lose it like that self-proclaimed “climate jester” from a few years back?
Surely when the difference between actual and claimed man made warming is less than one percent anyway then an error of two per cent is a two hundred percent error on the warming effects.
““We’ve got to remind people that we’re all in this together.”
It won’t matter, CO2-wise, if we in the U.S. reduce our emissions, because 75% of the world’s countries aren’t planning to do likewise—unless they get gobs of cash from us. Are such donations part of what Nye ideplores us for not commiting to, as well auto faster emissions reductions? Interviewers should ask him that.
Nye might (likely) respond, “I want the U.S. to abide by the Paris Accord.” That would be a non-responsive response, because that accord commits us, as a developed country, to doing both. But it would be a good deflection, because most people who haven’t been paying attention think of the accord as only an agreement to reduce emissions by signatories. (Actually it doesn’t commit developing countries even to that.)
Bill Nye The Science Guy; Catastrophic Ice-Age Averted, Man-Made CO2 Saved Mankind
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/04/29/bill-nye-the-science-guy-catastrophic-ice-age-averted-man-made-co2-saved-mankind/
Bill Nye “Is Not The Right” Guy Would Prefer an Ice Age Over the Current Warming
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/04/29/bill-nye-is-not-the-right-guy-would-prefer-an-ice-age-over-the-current-warming/
Bill Nye Gets Eaten By the Crocodile
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/04/14/bill-nye-gets-eaten-by-the-crocodile/
The bottom line is that the Federal gov. regulates commerce between the states, which means one state can’t impose economic sanctions on other states. Bill Nye is no just sub par as a scientist, he has no furure as a Constitutional Scholar.
I love the juxtaposition in the photo – a supposed refinery plume behind the constipated Bill Nye. Why do these planet savers always look constipated? There’s a theorem hidden in there – use it.
“if Bill Nye really believes renewables are cheaper and more reliable than fossil fuels, why does he feel the need to make economic threats and call people names?” because he is an attention seeking spokesperson for the anti-CO2 political movement. And he makes his living being a celebrity which also dovetails with being sensationalist.
I would suggest a voyage through the Northwest Passage in winter with Nye the Clown as captain.
In this PC world, isn’t Billy’s use of the word “Hillbillies” a racial slur against a specific people group? Isn’t that hate speech? Imagine if he had said some other slurs commonly used against people – for their color, background, religion or origin? Bill Nye is a bigot on top of knowing nothing about science. Bill Nye the bigot guy.
Yes, but ‘trailer trash’ are not worried about what snobs think.
Somebody needs to inform Mr. Nye that the Formerly Great State of Illinois has been imposing economic sanctions against itself for the last umpty years. We don’ need no stinkin’ Climate Change in order to get businesses (and taxpayers) to avoid us to the hilt.
What a nasty scowl on Bill Nye’s face. It looks like he really hates us! Ignoring skepticism in science is a sure way to promote fascism – the Nazis were experts at that. Bill Nye the Nazi guy.
The people I think about all the time are what are eloquently stated as the hillbillies.
Bill Nye
If we turn against each other based on divisions of race or religion, if we fall for a bunch of okey-doke …then we’re not going to build on the progress we started,
Barack Obama
Bill Nye… ” watch out if all those places start to address climate change and then impose economic sanctions, either overtly or by default, on places that have not embraced the work that needs to be done. Then you’ll end up with this states rights working the other way.”
Heh… seriously Bill Nye?
With no Constitutional authority to regulate commerce between the States, no authority to impose duties on interstate or international commerce, no ability to void the obligations of private contracts, no ability punish those operating legally in other States, no ability to independently enter into any agreement with another State or foreign power, with all U.S. federal laws being the supreme law of the land, and all citizens of the U.S. entitled to the “Privileges and Immunities” provided under federal law, and with the laws of one State having no authority on the citizens of another State (being separate sovereign powers)… How exactly are “Progressive” States supposed to “address climate change and then impose economic sanctions” on the other States or their citizens?
Apparently, Bill, someone forgot to tell you about the limitations of State powers under the U.S. Constitution. Such as :
Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 which provides United States Congress shall have power “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes.”
Article I, Section 9, Clause 5 which provides: “No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.”
Article I, Section 9, Clause 6 which provides: “No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
Article IV, Section 2, , Clause 1 which provides “The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.”
Article XIV (Amendment 14), Clause 1 with provides “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Article VI, Clause 2 which provides “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
Apparently, Bill, you also forget the U.S. Constitution prohibits States from
1) Passing laws that create a “Bill of Attainder” or impair the “Obligation of Contracts” (Article I, Section 10, Clause 1).
2) “Lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports” without the Consent of Congress. ” (Article I, Section 10, Clause 2).
3) “Lay any Duty of Tonnage” without the Consent of Congress” (Article I, Section 10, Clause 3).
4) “Enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power” without the Consent of Congress” (Article I, Section 10, Clause 3).
Poor Bill… no better at law than he is with science.