Al Gore: President Trump Can’t be Educated on Climate Change

Al Gore and Donald Trump
Al gore By Crop by Gralo of original image by Brett Wilson (brettw AT gmail DOT com) [CC BY-SA 2.5], via Wikimedia Commons. Donald Trump by Gage Skidmore [CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Former Vice President Al Gore is upset that President Trump has not proven receptive to receiving Gore’s famous scientific “expertise” on climate change.

Al Gore: ‘I tried my best’ but Trump can’t be educated on climate change

At UN climate talks in Bonn, Gore is heading an unofficial group trying to stop climate change – in the face of scepticism from Trump administration officials

Al Gore has accused Donald Trump of surrounding himself “with the absolute worst of climate deniers” and said he has given up attempting to persuade the president to reverse his dismantling of policies combatting global warming.

However, both Gore, the former US vice-president, and Jerry Brown, governor of California, told the Guardian they were confident the US will regain its leadership position on climate change if Trump is defeated in the next presidential election.

Gore, Brown and Michael Bloomberg, the billionaire former mayor of New York, are heading a broad coalition of climate change hawks from US states, cities and businesses in Bonn, where UN climate talks are being held. This alliance is in sharp contrast to the official US delegation, which is representing the only national government in the world that doesn’t want to be part of the Paris climate accords.

“I haven’t had any conversations with [Trump] since his speech to withdraw from Paris. I tried my best and thought he’d come to his senses but I’ve been proven wrong,” Gore, who met with Trump during the transition to try to influence his thinking, told the Guardian. “I don’t feel I have the ability to change his mind. He’s surrounded himself with the absolute worst of climate deniers who seem to have captured his mind on the issue.”

Brown also said he sees little point attempting to sway the Trump administration. “The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,” the California governor told the Guardian. “That is so preposterous that engagement on that basis is just useless.”

However, the California governor said mid-term elections in the US next year may pressure Trump to change position. “He’s an action orientated person, not a politician, so who knows,” he said.

“Ultimately we won’t have a denier in the White House forever. We are engaged in a great political struggle between the deniers who want to turn the world over to fossil fuel interests and scientists and concerned activists who want to see decarbonization.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/10/al-gore-donald-trump-climate-change

The climate rent seekers behind Gore and Brown are quite obviously hoping to endure the Trump Presidency. Rent seeking is what they do, they have no plan B.

If we don’t save our kids from climate brainwashing, get green propaganda out of schools, and keep up the pressure on climate scientists to produce evidence to support their wild alarmist claims, Gore and Brown might yet prove to be justified in their optimism.

In my opinion we have one chance to get this right, or risk losing generations of our children to climate servitude.

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Science or Fiction
November 10, 2017 2:39 pm

Can someone please try to convince Al Gore that subjective levels of confidence are not objective.

Lucius von Steinkaninchen
Reply to  Science or Fiction
November 10, 2017 2:41 pm

Al Gore can’t be educated on how science works.

Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 3:24 pm

Impossible to educate that pompous scumbag coward.

The creep did his climate publicity stunt in one of my parks that I was responsible for.His people kept me away from the park while he pushed his lies at the Water intake for the City water treatment plant. There was a pump there that I was supposed to check daily since it was having problems.

I got within 200 feet,before I was blocked.

I despise the man.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 3:29 pm

Let’s modify this articles headline ALGORE: President Trump can’t be indoctrinated on climate change.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 3:53 pm

Once again, let me restate the title:
“Al Gore: President Trump Can’t be indoctrinated on Climate Change”.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 4:15 pm

Sorry Bill, I should refresh the text more often. Seems we think identically.

Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 4:42 pm

Pop Piasa

perhaps it should be changed to:

‘Al Gore, the failed presidential candidate, has a go at the successful presidential candidate, in an attempt to bolster his failing rhetoric exemplified by his bombed 2017 movie, and his increasingly desperate rantings on climate change to support his carbon credit investments, having failed as a tobacco farmer when public opinion on that went south’.

A bit long you think?

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 5:40 pm

The Economist, April 5, 2001

Kyoto Protocol commentary and a bit of history.

‘Oh no Kyoto’

“For the United States, the deal was done by Vice-President Al Gore …”

More at:
http://economist.com/node/561509

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 7:10 pm

AL GORE

‘Climate Leadership’

Re: History of Global Climate movement.

“For more than 40 years, former Vice President Al Gore has been at the forefront of the movement to solve the global climate crisis.”

More at:
http://www.algore.com/about/the-climate-crisis

Catcracking
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 10, 2017 8:49 pm

All the markings of a D student in science, which of course he failed and was given a D so the teacher would not have to put up up with him again.

Greg
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 11, 2017 5:20 am

Maybe wading in and calling everyone “denierz” did not help with his chances of convincing anyone he was making an objective scientific case.

G Mawer
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 11, 2017 9:52 am

Maybe Gore’s problem is that Trump IS educated.

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 11, 2017 10:10 am

Harvard University Library

Archived papers: Maurice F. Strong

‘Maurice F. Strong Papers, 1948 – 2000: Guide’

Strong papers acquired from residences at: Lost Lake, Ontario and Crestone, Colorado.

http://oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/delivery/~env00004

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 11, 2017 12:14 pm

Harvard University Library

Re: Maurice Strong papers: 1948-2000

Try:
http://oasis.lib.harvard.edu/oasis/deliver/~env00004

Harvard University Lamont Library Collections

‘Maurice F. Strong Papers, Secretary-General of the UN Conference on the Human Environment and the 1992 Earth Summit’

http://www.hcl.harvard.edu/libraries/lamont/collections/environment

And more.

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 12, 2017 4:59 pm

For the Canadian audience

BP-317E

The Rio Earth Summit 1992

Re: Maurice Strong & Canadian participation

November 1992, Rio 1992 Earth Summit Conference Summary, Document Text.

http://publications.gc.ca/Collection-R/LoPBdP/BP/bp317-e.htm

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 12, 2017 5:49 pm

Journal of the Group of 77 (No.2-1998)

United Nations Foundation

Re: UNF and Better World Fund (BWF)

Board included:

Ted Turner
Maurice Strong
Timothy Wirth
And others

http://g77.org/nc/journal/2-98/8.htm

Barbara
Reply to  Lucius von Steinkaninchen
November 13, 2017 11:16 am

Global Leadership for Climate Action (GLCA)

CLCA members include:

Kim Campbell
Jose Maria Figueres
George Soros
Ted Turner
Tim Wirth
And others

Another network?

http://www.globalactionnow.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=34&Itemid=53

Bill Powers
Reply to  Science or Fiction
November 10, 2017 3:31 pm

Can’t convince stupid. Mr. Gentleman C average from Yale. that means monied stupidity.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 10, 2017 4:22 pm

Mr Gore is dumb like a fox.
We can only hope that his settled science dogma collapses under him and subjects him to a credibility freefall.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 10, 2017 4:37 pm

Please allow me to repeat my Algorhyme:
Pinwheels and Mirrors

A long time ago (in the 80’s or so),
Al Gore warned that warming would soon be alarming;
“Our children won’t know what it’s like to see snow!
Our atmosphere we must stop harming!”

He’d studied, in college, on James Hansen’s knowledge.
Then, over years of political careers,
He pondered this notion: The atmosphere and oceans
Are useful to raise public fears.

He made presentations to all the world’s nations.
His film (sci-fi trash) was a box office smash!
Academy sensation! Oscars, nominations
And copious currents of cash!

Then unto him fell the Peace Prize, Nobel…
Authority, on him was now vested.
(Debates he must quell, for he knows quite well:
Models failed when reality tested.)

So, grew the meme of anthropogenic extreme.
While insiders profited highly,
Those who objected were quickly subjected
To ridicule (and regarded vilely).

Pinwheels and mirrors now litter the lands…
Power lines, mile after mile.
On high plains, sea cliffs and desert sands
Our vistas, they now beguile.

But, collectors of government subsidies
Find them a beautiful sight,
These mechanical menaces… begging a breeze
Or a sunbeam to make their cost right.

Decades upcoming threaten cold’s icy numbing-
Nature’s cycles, in concert, are waning.
The slowness to warm should have cancelled alarm,
But Al never ceases campaigning:

“We humans are bad, with our fossil fuel fad,
It’s a fast-building carbon disaster!
And now it’s two-fold! It’s causing the cold
And the hotness to come so much faster!”

Yet, while he’s pleading that all should be heeding
His carbon reduction ambitions,
He hopes you’re not seeing his own footprint being
Hundreds of poor folks’ emissions.

Let’s hope he’s thought out, while jetting about,
The messages of his actions.
By far they outweigh any words he might say,
In the minds of the wiser factions.

Reply to  Bill Powers
November 10, 2017 4:46 pm

Pop Piasa

lacks only a slight cadence.

Otherwise, perfect.

Thomas Ryan
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 10, 2017 6:54 pm

al-Gore went to Harvard. You can always tell a Harvard man. You just can’tell him much

Reply to  Bill Powers
November 10, 2017 10:46 pm

When a failed politician meets a successful businessman, there is only one possible outcome.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 11, 2017 2:11 am

Good stuff, Pop . . Thanks

tty
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 12, 2017 8:36 am

“Mr Gore is dumb like a fox.”

That is seriously insulting to a quite smart and adatable animal.

mike
Reply to  Science or Fiction
November 10, 2017 9:41 pm

It is amazing any one wants to listen to Algore on anything science related. Basically lazy in school with little talent in science, this WaPo article says it all.

“…received that sophomore D in Natural Sciences 6 (Man’s Place in Nature) and then got a C+ in Natural Sciences 118 his senior year. The self-proclaimed inventor of the Internet avoided all courses in mathematics and logic throughout college…

“When John Davis, a retired teacher and assistant headmaster at St. Albans, was recently shown [Gore’s CEEB] achievement test scores, he inspected them closely with a magnifier and shook his head, chuckling quietly at the science results.

“488! Terrible” Davis declared upon inspecting the future vice president’s …score… in physics.”

Goldrider
Reply to  Science or Fiction
November 11, 2017 7:53 am

The weather is going to take care of this problem, and soon, all on its own. They were able to keep up the illusion of “global warming” and “hide the decline” as long as El Nino stuck around–but now we’re entering the 30-year cooling cycle and the more the actual observations contradict the models, and the more it becomes apparent the narrative is full of shit, the less they are going to be able to foist this off on the public, who except for that 3% sliver of the upper middle class are NOT engaged with this issue at ALL.
The precious blue-bubble dwellers who’ve adopted this as a secular religion are ignored by people who actually set foot outside and see for themselves. For those of you who worry about scholastic indoctrination, one question: How much of the crap YOU learned in high school do you still believe? Uh-huh!

Barbara
Reply to  Science or Fiction
November 13, 2017 4:05 pm

Climate Action Reserve, Los Angeles, Calif.

Advisory Board includes: Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell, Canada

http://www.climateactionreserve.org/about-us/board-of-directors

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
November 13, 2017 5:17 pm

CA.Gov, 11-13-2017

COP23, Bonn, Germany

Re: Climate Action Reserve & Gov. Brown

More at:
https://www.gov.ca.gov/home.php

Latitude
November 10, 2017 2:42 pm

……..”in a great political struggle”

well, he got that part right

…about the only part he’s gotten right……millions of degrees

RockyRoad
Reply to  Latitude
November 10, 2017 10:44 pm

Gore’s emphasis is more religious than political, and more political than scientific.

November 10, 2017 2:46 pm

Education on climate change? Al Gore could learn a few things. Trump has the facts on his side.
How to Discuss Global Warming with a “Climate Alarmist.” Scientific Talking Points to Win the Debate.
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/how-to-discuss-global-warming-with-a-climate-alarmist-scientific-talking-points-to-win-the-debate/

AndyG55
November 10, 2017 2:49 pm

What Big Al is saying is that President Donald Trump is immune to blatant anti-science propaganda pap.

JohnWho
Reply to  AndyG55
November 10, 2017 3:12 pm

My initial thought too.

Goldrider
Reply to  AndyG55
November 11, 2017 7:59 am

Which is exactly why the people elected him. The Narrative has been exposed as the smoke and mirrors machine it is. Thank you, Toto! for pulling aside the curtain!

Edwin
November 10, 2017 2:57 pm

Fat Albert’s comments about Trump reluctance to buy what is is selling made me like Trump even more.

Reply to  Edwin
November 10, 2017 4:59 pm

Edwin

I wasn’t convinced of Trump as president, any more than I was Hilary.

But boy, am I ever pleased to be proven wrong.

The only politician of a western nation in my living memory who has actually stuck to his election manifesto promises, as far as possible, and implemented positive change within a year of coming to office.

I maintain that any decision is better than no decision. And in the best possible way, Trump is proving me right. He’s cutting a swath through global politics that’s shaking them all out their complacent little bubbles.

He’s getting all the crappy stuff out the way early and will deliver the really positive stuff in the run up to his re election. And providing he’s not somehow scuppered, I suspect his campaign for re election might be a landslide like no other.

RockyRoad
Reply to  HotScot
November 10, 2017 10:45 pm

Even the world-wide economy is going gangbusters. MWGA!

Goldrider
Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2017 8:00 am

Bannon’s predicting 400 electoral college votes!

Mark B.
November 10, 2017 3:05 pm

We all know Gore’s best is about as valuable as Weinstein’s chasity pledge.

Tom Halla
November 10, 2017 3:06 pm

I think Gore got rolled. Trump listened politely to him, noticed what an ignorant yahoo Gore is, and decided to not disagree with him to his face.

Reply to  Tom Halla
November 10, 2017 5:05 pm

Tom

I think he told Gore to fork off to his face. Then smiled, and politely showed him the door. So Gore came out swinging with his new movie to exact revenge, and bombed.

HeHeHe…..How sad, what a shame, never mind.

Tom Halla
Reply to  HotScot
November 10, 2017 5:23 pm

I saw the interview with Gore after he met with Trump before the inauguration, and Gore was acting pleased with the meeting. Which is why I think Trump was not confrontational with him.

Reply to  Tom Halla
November 10, 2017 5:33 pm

Tom Halla

All the more reason to believe Trump told him to fork off.

Although I do get your point, but politicians kiss more babies when their failing.

alan bates
Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2017 6:32 am

Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2017 9:24 am

Alan

A classic.

November 10, 2017 3:06 pm

Al Gore has said and written a lot about climate and the environment.
What has he ever gotten right?
What has he ever admitted he got wrong?

“I tried my best and thought he’d come to his senses but I’ve been proven wrong,”
OK. He admits to being proven wrong about one thing. He thought Trump would suffer fools gladly.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 10, 2017 10:48 pm

Perhaps Gore meant: “…but I’ve been proven wrong about climate change.”

Gore’s sly and just a bit dishonest like that.

Goldrider
Reply to  Gunga Din
November 11, 2017 8:04 am

What Gore figured out, and exploits endlessly, is that the Judeo-Christian world is hardwired to believe in apocalyptic scenarios. “For we have shat the Garden, and now Gaia will smite us!” Nothing but recycled Old Testament mythology transparently rewritten for the secular age. BTW, all kinds of schmucks nowadays, from Gwenyth Paltrow and late-night radio supplement hawkers on down, think if they dress their BS up in “science-speak,” they can sell you anything. Unfortunately, it is often so.

F. Leghorn
November 10, 2017 3:06 pm

The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,”

So not only is Trump “anti-science” he is racist? I am so sick of leftards and race-baiters (or is that redundant?)

Reply to  F. Leghorn
November 10, 2017 8:08 pm

Looking at the situation from international perspective:

Political party identifying themselves ‘progressive’ lose presidential election to someone they deplore. And, unless a mistake from my part, they’ve also lost in senate and congress.

On this swampy foundation their visible beacons Gore, Brown and Bloomberg have decided to fight their domestic opposition battle in the international field. Affirming their unwillingness to accept election results and advertising their personal antipathies and general ambitions unpopular among the US electorate. Now, which head of state has, does or will welcome their own opposition to any UN arena at all, let alone in this manner? I bet Merkel won’t.

And observing Gore’s, Brown’s and Bloomberg’s ambitions, it gets worse. They are fighting for policies Nixon launched decades ago.
R Nixon: http://www.climatecentral.org/blogs/richard-nixon-the-environmentalist-resigned-38-years-ago-today-14776

For this reason in my opinion, Gore’s, Brown’s and Bloomberg’s actions are entertaining. Don’t know if Nixon set a trap for these ‘progressives’, but they surely decided to spring one with their own head.

George Daddis
Reply to  F. Leghorn
November 11, 2017 6:39 am

Moonbeam certainly knows that is not the “official” policy of the US; that the Chinese “hoax” line came from a joke at a press conference.
The policy of the US, oft articulated by DJT, is to not commit the US to a one sided deal where the US pays alot for little or nothing in return.

Goldrider
Reply to  F. Leghorn
November 11, 2017 8:05 am

Love how the newsies manage to get “Official Policy of the U.S.” out of a pre-Presidential “tweet.” Sad!

Jack
November 10, 2017 3:07 pm

Al Gore can’t be educated on climate change. Gore frequently speaks about the need to reduce the global population, Gore has 4 kids, no adoptions, no multiple births. Gore frequently speaks about the need to live a low carbon lifestyle, Gore has 4 or more properties and flies frequently for business and pleasure.

Obviously Al Gore can’t be educated on climate change.

Andy Pattullo
November 10, 2017 3:16 pm

If Gore now admits he was wrong about Trump, does that mean he might eventually realize and admit he was wrong about CAGW, or is that just asking to much from the great Goracle?

JohnWho
November 10, 2017 3:19 pm

““The official policy of the US is that climate change is a total and complete hoax conceived by Chinese conspirators,…”

Uh, no.

Worse, If Brown is defining a policy not his own, he’s probably not getting it right.

But it hopefully the policy is more like “The official policy of the US is that climate change being primarily caused by human CO2 emissions is a total and complete fabrication conceived by radical environmentalists, journalists, and certain politicians.”

nn
November 10, 2017 3:20 pm

No one who has lived any appreciable time on Earth would deny climate change. Perhaps Gore is referring to the prophecy of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming, or its Politically Convenient cousin: Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Climate Change.

RockyRoad
Reply to  nn
November 10, 2017 10:50 pm

No one who has lived any appreciable time on Earth has seen a definitive refutation of the null hypothesis regarding climate change, “nn”.

Next…

JohnWho
November 10, 2017 3:21 pm

” I tried my best and thought, but I’ve been proven wrong,”

There, fixed it.

nn
November 10, 2017 3:23 pm

For Gore’s knowledge, processes characterized in isolation cannot be reasonably extrapolated to cause effects in the wild, let alone in a complex system such as our Earth. Our super computers lack sufficient diversity (i.e. bits), and the models are poor hypotheses of what is clearly an insufficiently characterized system.

Brad
November 10, 2017 3:34 pm

“You can’t teach a concept to a person whose salary (and egotistic existence) depends on them not understanding it. – Upton Sinclair.
We are battling a trillion dollar industry whose existence relies on perpetuating the “BIG LIE”.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Brad
November 10, 2017 4:04 pm

Brad: +97, exactly.

NME666
November 10, 2017 3:47 pm

Algorebull$hit has a lot in common with a certain farm animal!!!

Reply to  NME666
November 10, 2017 4:08 pm

Let me guess. Is it the pig?

Reply to  ThomasJK
November 10, 2017 5:11 pm

ThomasJK

Nope, the rare Manbearpig.

eyesonu
Reply to  NME666
November 11, 2017 7:47 am

A sex craved poodle? Guard the sheep!

Bill Illis
November 10, 2017 3:59 pm

“educated”

Brad
November 10, 2017 4:21 pm

Does anyone remember this?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/us/politics/24gore.html

Another pass for the liberal elites. And he wants us to believe in AGW?

CD in Wisconsin
November 10, 2017 4:25 pm

It should be apparent to anyone who understands science that former V P. Gore and Gov. Brown are peddling religion and not science.

If I understand science correctly, there is no assumption of the existence of infallibility in science and an understanding that questions should always be asked in the face of a theory of hypothesis like CAGW when it is presented. Gore’s and Brown’s behavior demonstrates the peddling of religion here because they tell us that action on climate change is required. The underlying assumption of infallibility in that rhetoric is not hard to see. Never mind that the sensitivity of the Earth’s climate to the GHGE of CO2 is still very much an open issue. Also never mind that humanity’s contribution to the CO2 level in the atmosphere is also still an open issue. Don’t ask about these questions, just have faith.

This whole circus could begin fizzling out sooner if the Trump administration would take the offense here and present the scientific evidence that pokes holes in CAGW to the American people and the world. If EPA administrator Scott Pruitt has a team for the Red team-Blue Team debate ready to go, I wish he would begin putting it to use. Let the alarmists assemble their own damn team to debate the other side.

If Gore’s hopes for U.S. 2020 elections and U.S. position change in the CAGW issue are to be proven false, we still have plenty of time to ensure that this will happen. The Earth’s climate may indeed start cooling between now and then, but we should not assume that this (by itself) will cause the CAGW Holy Faith to die out without some additional help.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 10, 2017 5:17 pm

CD in Wisconsin

I don’t think Trump is remotely distracted by climate change, as much as we on WUWT imagine he may be.

His focus seems to be to get America back to work. Anything else, including climate change, is a mere distraction.

Good for him, drive a truck though the worlds posturing, political angst, and get them back to the reality of life.

George Daddis
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 11, 2017 6:50 am

Red-Blue teams only work when both sides respect each other’s opinion. That’s certainly not the current situation. Playing that card now would only initiate a long series of arguments and counter arguments and you know which side the MSM would trumpet.

Instead of a Red-Blue team exercise aimed at the complex science (which the public does not have the background to understand) the administration should use surrogates to poke fun (using Alinsky’s ridicule method) at some of the more outrageous CAGW claims as they occur. (E.g. show Miami Beach streets underwater in 1917 as soon as Al does another photo op there.)

November 10, 2017 4:28 pm

So Trump needs to be re-elected in 2020. And the RINO congress needs to be cleansed in 2018, and not by Demorats, rather by Deplorables. Then Gore and Brown will have no hope and nowhere to hide, and justice will be finally served.
Meanwhile, Mueller is finding no Trump/Russia connections, but plenty of Hillary/Russian connections like the GPS dossier and Uranium 1. What does Mueller then do? Go after Manafort concerning Ukraine stuff years before Trump announced his candidacy, and probably next Flynn concerning NATO member Turkey.

Reply to  ristvan
November 10, 2017 5:27 pm

In the most positive way, Trump seems to have groomed himself and his family for this period in time. None of them are drunks, druggies, sexual predators (other than inconsequential accusations about Trump himself which seemed to have tailed off) or cheats and liars.

Compare that to the UK’s royal family, replete with cheats, liars, questionable sexual ambiguity, stupidity, gullibility, and of course unearned excessive privilege.

Guess who I would rather have running the UK?

George Lawson
Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2017 2:43 am

Whenever did the Royal Family run the UK?

Tom Halla
Reply to  George Lawson
November 11, 2017 3:59 am

Before the Glorious Revolution (1688?)

Reply to  HotScot
November 11, 2017 9:23 am

Tom

Thank you, saved me doing it. However they have exerted considerable influence ever since, at least until more recently.

RockyRoad
Reply to  ristvan
November 10, 2017 10:52 pm

Hillary’s so up to her eyeballs in Uranium One she has a particular glow about her.

joe
November 10, 2017 4:33 pm

When the crimes and corruption of the other 2016 presidential candidate becomes evident and fully exposed, people will realize that the USA narrowly averted a serious national disaster had that other candidate won the 2016 election. None of the other Republican candidates, had one of them been the party nominee, had the courage and conviction to pull out of Paris, and hopefully defund the formerly C-AGW, now CC acolytes sucking up taxpayer money.
At some point, people will then realize and accept that our nation has been saved from disaster by one man. Not this pope, but some future pope might be compelled to elevate America’s savior to sainthood.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  joe
November 10, 2017 5:38 pm

Sainthood like Joan of Arc?
Maybe St Stephen?

I hope he will be an icon of how the private sector makes our system superior to socialism, despite the onslaught of media attacks (which are disturbingly similar to character attacks on the rest of the opponents of present political solutions to the current non-problem of a 0.75C global temperature rise since 1880).

NW sage
November 10, 2017 4:52 pm

If Al Gore believes that Trump cannot be taught (about ‘Climate Change’) then perhaps he should consider the possibility that he is a really,really bad teacher – in addition to being on the wrong side of the facts about climate.

Sara
November 10, 2017 5:11 pm

As much as I prefer to not get a pounding headache from Algore’s psychobabbling, I would very much like a clearly stated proposal from directly responding to the following question: How in the blinking blue-eyed does he expect to stop a natural event from happening?

His intention seems to border on saying “we can stop volcanoes from erupting”.

I agree with those who see him scrambling to keep his place, when in fact, it appears that this is the end of it for him and several other people who wallow in a denial of reality. He seems to be exactly the kind of person who would accept Lysenkoism as the way to run agriculture.

I sincerely hope that this entire scramble is an indication that the crazypants stuff is slowly eroding away and common sense and stability will return us to the “norm” – whatever that is.

J Mac
Reply to  Sara
November 10, 2017 5:36 pm

Sara,
I can commiserate….. but you cannot expect to have a rational conversation with an irrational person.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  J Mac
November 10, 2017 5:45 pm

His rationality is not as much in question as his motivation.

stephana
November 10, 2017 5:11 pm

It has never occurred to manbearpig that the President is the intelligent one and he should listen to the President.

Reply to  stephana
November 10, 2017 5:31 pm

stephana

manbearpig is deluded into believing he is the US president.

RockyRoad
Reply to  HotScot
November 10, 2017 10:53 pm

It seems to be a common malady afflicting all losing Democrats.

Gerald Machnee
November 10, 2017 5:32 pm

What we need is a Trump in Canada re climate.

tim
November 10, 2017 5:37 pm

I’m wondering what the Newspeak definition of “Education” would be under Big Brother Gore?

David middleton
November 10, 2017 5:47 pm

Gore and Brown are fools.

Margaret Smith
November 10, 2017 5:55 pm

At least Gore seems to be resigned to Trump still being there by the next election. Probably realises all the Russian stuff and impeachment babble is going nowhere.

hunter
November 10, 2017 6:05 pm

Gore is a profoundly disturbed destructive person.

Don Perry
November 10, 2017 7:17 pm

Tweedle Dum critiquing Tweet-le Dee

RockyRoad
Reply to  Don Perry
November 10, 2017 10:54 pm

…and Tweet-le Dee is confounding the MSM. I LOVE IT!

willhaas
November 10, 2017 7:24 pm

It is Al Gore that cannot be educated on climate change. He is the real science denyer.

there is plenty of scientific rational to support the idea that the climate sensivity of CO2 is really zero. The initial radiametric calculations came up with a climate sensivity of CO2 of 1.2 degrees C not factoring in feedbacks. One researcher has found that these calculations failed to take into consideration that a doubling of CO2 will cause a slight decrease in the dry lapse rate in the troposphere which is a cooling effect. The reduction in the dry lapse rate will decrease the climate sensivity of CO2 by more than a factor of 20, reducing the climate sensivity of CO2 to less than .06 degrees C.

An important part of the AGW conjecture is that CO2 based warming will increase the amount of H2O in the atmosphere which will cause even more warming because H2O is really the primary greenhouse gas and molecule per molecule is a stronger absorber of IR than is CO2. Those that believe in the AGW conjecture like to assume an amplification factor associated with H2O of 3. However, the AGW conjecture completely ignores that H2O is a primary coolant in the Earth’s atmosphere moving heat energy from the Earth’s surface to where clouds form via the heat of vaporization. According to some energy balance models more heat energy is moved by H2O via the heat of vaporization then by both convection and LWIR absorption band radiation combined. The cooling effect of more H2O is also evidenced by the fact that the wet lapse rate is significantly less than the dry lapse rate which indicates that more H2O has a net cooling effect. So instesd of an amplification factor of 3 we should use an amplification factor of 1/3 which would yield a climate sensivity of CO2 of less than .02 degrees C which is a trivial amount.

The AGW conjecture depends upon the existance of a radiant greenhouse effect caused by trace gases with LWIR absorption bands. The AGW conjecture completely ignores the fact that good absorbers are also good radiators and what ever LWIR photons are absorbed are eventually radiated away. The so called greenhouse gases do not trap heat any more than any other gases in the Earth’s atmosphere. In fact the non-greenhouse gases will tend too hold onto heat energy longer than the so called greenhouse gases because the non-greenhouse gases are such poor LWIR radiators to space. Since heat transfer by conduction and convection dominates over heat transfer by LWIR absorption band radiation in the troposhere, the fact that the so called greenhouse gases absorb LWIR radiation makes little difference.

A real greenhouse does not stay warm because of the action of IR absorbiing greenhouse gases. A real greenhouse stays warm because the glass limits cooling by convection. It is a convective greenhouse effect that keeps a real greenhouse warm. There is no radiant greenhouse effect that keeps a real greenhouse warm. So too with the Earth’s climate system. Gravity along with the heat capacity of the atmosphere and the depth of the troposphere provide a convective greenhouse effect. Derived from first principals, the Earth’s convective greenhouse effect keeps the Earth’s surface on average 33 degrees C warmer than it would otherwise be. 33 degrees C is the amount derived from first principals and 33 degrees C is what has been measured. There is no additional warming caused by a radiative greenhouse effect. A radiative greenhouse effect has not been observed on Earth or anywhere else in the solar system for that mater. The radiative greenhouse effect is science fiction. Hence the AGW conjecture is science fiction. This is all a matter of science.

From an analysis of paleoclimate date and the results of work with models one can conclude that the climate change we are experieicnig today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. So far mankind has not been able to change weather events let alone global climate. Al Gore does not seem to understand this. It is all a matter of science. Al Gore is the science denier.

Mack
Reply to  willhaas
November 11, 2017 1:27 am

Good science there, willhaas…but you’ve substituted the “radiative greenhouse effect” with some sort of “convective greenhouse effect”. There is no “greenhouse effect” of either description. The atmosphere cools the surface. Your idea that the Earth’s surface would be on average 33 degrees C colder without some “greenhouse effect” is just hypothetical nonsense, not based in reality. At those temperatures all the oceans would be frozen solid….but I’ve noticed they are not…haven’t you?
So in reality, there is sufficient solar radiation to keep our surface temperatures at the liveable average they are.
It’s just a mistake in the incoming solar radiation at the TOA.

Goldrider
Reply to  willhaas
November 11, 2017 8:11 am

Al Gore’s whole PARTY are science deniers! Who the hell is trying to sell us the nonsense that there are more than two sexes? Ai-yi-YIIIIII!

jclarke341
November 10, 2017 7:32 pm

Is it just me, or do Gore and Brown sound like the antagonists in a poorly written screenplay about a dystopian future?

Mat
November 10, 2017 9:21 pm

As in “He can’t be bought”..

Warren Blair
November 10, 2017 10:17 pm

Trump will likely not be re-elected if he doesn’t curtail climate alarmism.
Young people will increasingly vote in US elections because the green agenda is sweeping education institutions and the internet.
The USA is in a dangerous period of history; more danger than any terrorist or dictator.
Trump’s number one priority should be defeating alarmism.
The Democrats have him lined up for an all-out assault from the grass-roots up.
The Democrats and their donors are not siting around crying, they’re twice as busy because they see climate as their most powerful weapon. Everything else they stand for lacks credibility or popularity.
Climate will decide the next election (if not the one after).
Democrats know young people are looking for ‘meaning’ and ‘purpose’ and green provides that.
The longer Trump delays the easier it is for them.
Trump should be building off the momentum of the PARIS REJECTION and his failure to do so is a massive strategic blunder.
Bannon has missed this one (because his donors and backers are soft on it).
How often do you hear ‘build the wall’ and ‘balance the climate debate’ in one sentence.
You don’t . . . this is deadly.
Every US agency continues to promote one side of the story without checks and balances.
The US Government promotes climate alarmism every day and will continue to do so by every indication.

Reply to  Warren Blair
November 10, 2017 11:13 pm

Great post…I live in the UK and our supposedly right wing (sensible) politicians are like sheep when it comes to climate and energy policies. In a few years we will be paying up to $400 extra per year per household for energy and our diminished industrial base will fade away.
Trump is our only hope of salvation and I hope he attacks the green thieves in every way possible.

Goldrider
Reply to  Warren Blair
November 11, 2017 8:15 am

Hate to tell you, but “climate” “change” consistently polls last on the list of people’s real-world concerns. A few millennials use that (along with “fair trade” and “veganism”) for secular virtue-signalling among their 3% privileged peers, but that’ll die a natural death as soon as they have to make their own living. Most ADULTS get it that economic prosperity is the sine qua non that makes all other things possible when dealing with the wider world. Take care of the bottom 2/3 of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs pyramid, then you have the luxury of worrying about political arcana.

November 10, 2017 10:31 pm

Whar’s a “climate denier”?

Roger Knights
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
November 11, 2017 1:26 am

“Whar’s a “climate denier”?”

it’s a shorthand term for a climate change (i.e., AGW) denier, almost always applied to anyone who is only a CAGW denier.

jclarke341
Reply to  Roger Knights
November 11, 2017 8:07 am

“Climate” denier has no literal meaning. It is a derogatory phrase designed to attack and denigrate anyone who does not believe in a man-made, catastrophic climate crisis. It is designed to equate such people with holocaust deniers, in other words, pseudo-nazis; vile, stupid and evil.

Goodwin’s Law states: “As a discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1.” The law has evolved some corollaries, such as: “…there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned Adolf Hitler has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin’s law.” [Wikipedia]

Gore, Brown, Nye and a host of other CAGW supporters usually throw out the Nazi reference in their first sentence, validating the corollary to Goodwin’s law. Any discussion is now over, but they do not seem to realize that they have lost the argument!

michael hart
November 11, 2017 12:43 am

It’s always the same with the Al Gores of this world: They will freely and frequently admit to understanding very little science but somehow know which scientists are correct and which ones are not.

Roger Knights
Reply to  michael hart
November 11, 2017 1:29 am

He relies almost entirely on what his prime advisor, Hansen, tells him.

Michael Darby
November 11, 2017 12:57 am

“For more than 40 years, former Vice President Al Gore has been at the forefront of the movement to invent a global climate crisis.”

toorightmate
November 11, 2017 3:47 am

Gore + Jerry Brown + M Bloomberg = Larry + Curly + Moe

November 11, 2017 5:59 am

We ARE IN a fricking ICE AGE.
Can’t any of these idiots be bothered enough to figure it out?

Billyjack
November 11, 2017 6:11 am

Al Gore in the Church of Warming is the equivalent of Joel Osteen. Both enrich themselves off the spirituality of their ignorant flocks.

jclarke341
Reply to  Billyjack
November 11, 2017 8:12 am

Perhaps, but at least Osteen provides an uplifting message, makes people [feel] good and puts on a good show. Gore just spews fear, doom and disaster, and is somehow boring in the process!

George Daddis
November 11, 2017 6:54 am

….they were confident the US will regain its leadership position on climate change if Trump is defeated in the next presidential election.

That alone is sufficient reason to re-elect DJT.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  George Daddis
November 11, 2017 7:22 am

Yep, I still have my giant clothespin, and now have my rubber stamp ready for 2020. No other Republican could possibly have the chutzpah or the cajones to go up against the CAGW establishment the way he has.

Bruce Cobb
November 11, 2017 7:14 am

We are engaged in a great political struggle between the skeptics/climate realists who simply want the truth about climate told and pseudoscientists, rent-seekers, and humanity-haters who want to see their careers in professional lying extended, and keeping the gravy train trundling along, and the downfall of the West.
There, fixed.

ResouceGuy
November 11, 2017 7:45 am

Can’t be drugged or bought (like Obama)
is more like it.

Olen
November 11, 2017 8:18 am

they were confident the US will regain its leadership position on climate change if Trump is defeated in the next presidential election.

“Regain the leadership position”: Brown and Lemmings come to mind.

Boris
November 11, 2017 8:59 am

Al Gore and his cronies are involved in one of the biggest scam rip offs in the US today. With the EPA under Obama punitive emission standards were passed for fossil fueled engine. Diesels used for construction, farming and highway transports were slapped with strict emissions that made manufacturers turn to designs that caused diesel engines to be forced to “regenerate” before they could be used for purpose. These engines were forced to eat their own exhaust at a high idle for 15 to 20 minutes before they were allowed to go about their business. Not only does this regeneration waste fuel and the operator’s time but it was also causing damage to some of the engines in the process. The worst part of this is that farmer’s and highway truckers were caught in this madness so the cost increases this caused to farming and transport was passed down to the consumers again. This regeneration cycle also wastes a lot of fuel in the process. So when manufacturer’s of diesels could not make these new punitive emission standards they were allowed to buy carbon and emission credits to offset their shortfalls. In steps Al Gore and his band of thieves and they are getting rich selling carbon and emission credits for no physical assets exchanging hands other than some carbon and emission certificates. Great scam if you can get it. This link to a NY Times article says a lot.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/business/energy-environment/05truck.html.

November 11, 2017 11:09 am

A massive bureaucratic apparatus, the U.S. Global Change Research Program (USGCRP), according to their website “was established by Presidential Initiative in 1989 and mandated by Congress in the Global Change Research Act (GCRA) of 1990 to “assist the Nation and the world to understand, assess, predict, and respond to human-induced and natural processes of global change.” Thirteen Federal entities participate the USGCRP programs.

Department of Commerce
Department of Agriculture
Department of Defense
Department of Energy
Department of Health & Human Services
Department of the Interior
Department of State
Department of Transportation
Environmental Protection Agency
National Aeronautics & Space Administration
National Science Foundation
Smithsonian Institution
U.S. Agency for International Development

In the1990 Congressional mandate, human-induced climate change is a given. That resulted in billions of dollars spent to indoctrinate the world on the untested hypothesis of global warming and not a cent to test the hypothesis. Unorthodox thinking is prohibited by the mandate. Every result from their studies is a “What if” result. Where are the “What if not” studies?

What chance do a few rational scientists have against this vast Establishment juggernaut of money and power? The resources are in place to accomplish good science. The mandate of the USGCRP must be redirected by Congress to emphasis finding the truth instead managing a multi-billion-dollar program to promote a political doctrine. That would really be draining the swamp.

Gore misspoke by saying President Trump can’t be educated on climate change. He should have said he can’t be indoctrinated.

November 11, 2017 11:13 am

On the subject of climate change, Al Gore = Al the bore. Please stop playing your broken record, Mr. Bore.

I am usually tolerant of different viewpoints, but when arrogant, monetized shortsightedness is elevated to the position of a “viewpoint” for the purpose of controlling people, that’s where I draw the line.

maarten
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
November 11, 2017 2:06 pm

Without his AGW shenanigans, Al would have been forgotten a long time ago. Instead, it allowed him to become filthy rich, get a Nobel prize and be a mainstay among the jet-setting warmistas of the world, rubbing shoulders with world’s elites. He would be a has-been nobody without AGW gravy train…

maarten
November 11, 2017 2:02 pm

It is very satisfying to watch one of the world’s premier AGW charlatans tantrum repeatedly that his formerly best milking cow just won’t produce for him anymore…

As for the rest of the world “pressing on” with AGW agenda – it is much easier to fool a man than to convince a man that he has been fooled…
I shudder to think where the western world would be now if DJT did not win and this AGW scan would rage on unabated…

November 12, 2017 12:39 pm

Al “The Blimp” Gore is the Bozo the Clown of climate science, my opinion, and i hope I have not insulted any of the actors who played Bozo the Clown.

Gore took two elementary science courses in college, and couldn’t manage to get an A or B in either of them.

His 1980’s predictions sounded foolish then, and have proven to be foolish now.

Sometimes I listen to Trump, and wonder how he made so much money — he never sounds that smart, without a script to be read.

Al Bore is the Democrat equivalent of Trump — he doesn’t sound smart, but has made a lot of money.

Only in America.

Joel Snider
November 13, 2017 12:43 pm

Xfinity is my local cable provider and they have been running a nearly 24-hour a day infomercial advertising Gore’s movie on their menu channel, for the last few month – which is the most Al Gore I’ve ever been fed in my life.
I thought he was stupid when he was VP – I just didn’t fully appreciate HOW stupid (combined with lecherous and dishonest), but with this constant over-exposure, I don’t know how anyone can listen to this guy’s slow, mumbling rhetoric and not see a complete moron.

Patrick Maher
November 18, 2017 3:33 am

Al Gore: ‘I tried my best’ but Trump can’t be educated on climate change

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about Al Gore!