The 12th International Conference on Climate Change is just two weeks away–seats still available

Via press release and email:

The 12th International Conference on Climate Change (ICCC-12) will take place on Thursday and Friday, March 23–24 at the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Washington, DC, and you will not want to miss it. Meet and hear the scientists, economists, engineers, and policy experts who persuaded President Donald Trump that man-made global warming is not a crisis, and therefore Barack Obama’s war on fossil fuels must be ended.

Our schedule  is nearly complete, and it should include key members of the United States Senate, the U.S. House of Representatives, and the new Trump administration – which is already taking steps to restore sanity to America’s energy and climate policies.

REGISTER HERE


J. Scott Armstrong

Professor at the Wharton School

of Business at the University of

Pennsylvania

Susan Crockford

Professor and polar bear scholar, the University of Victoria, BC

Kevin D. Dayaratna

Senior statistician and research programmer for The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Data Analysis

Myron Ebell

Director of the Center for Energy

and Environment at the Competitive

Enterprise Institute, chairs the Cooler Heads Coalition and led Trump’s transition team for EPA

Roger Helmer

Minister for the United Kingdom in the European Parliament

Patrick Michaels

Director of the Center for the

Study of Science at the Cato Institute

Lord Christopher Monckton

Former chief policy advisor to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher

S. Fred Singer

Founder of the Science and Environmental Policy Project

Benjamin Zycher

Resident scholar at the

American Enterprise Institute


These speakers, and more, will explain the benefits of ending Obama’s war on fossil fuels and what policy changes are needed to do this. You can review the details about ICCC-12 at the conference website.

Space at the conference is very limited, so reserve your conference pass today. Admission, which includes five meals, is $179. For more information, or to register by phone, call Nikki Comerford at 312/377-4000.

The past 11 International Conferences on Climate Change were unqualified successes. The conferences were extensively covered by the international media and allowed more than 200 experts to share information and ideas regarding the latest science, economics, and politics related to the global warming debate. More than 4,000 people have attended an ICCC. Videos of the presentations are available online here.

P.S. If you can’t make it, we could better use some financial support. See our IndieGoGo campaign we have set up to help defer some of the costs which aren’t fully covered by attendance fees. Donations welcome, no matter how small.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/12th-international-conference-on-climate-change-environment#/

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March 10, 2017 11:10 am

Dr. Crockford’s polar bear work has hit the warmunists very hard. Glad she is getting the recognition she deserves.

Greg
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 11:52 am

Indeed, kudos to Dr Crockford for providing some sound science in face of all the projections, speculation and false claims.

Roger Knights
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 11:57 am

The host should point out, when he introduces her, that the polar bear affair is a microcosm of the whole global warming scare, in several particulars, which he should name.

March 10, 2017 11:10 am

For those of you who absolutely cannot make it in person, Heartland will be live-streaming every minute of the event, as we have done in the past. You can access the live-stream at the conference website: http://climateconference.heartland.org/

Griff
March 10, 2017 11:13 am

Roger Helmer isn’t minister for anything.

He’s merely an MEP.

He knows nothing at all about climate and his career in public life is… peculiar to say the least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Helmer

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:29 am

Roger Helmer is a very clever mathematician who knows far more about the climate than 99% of the politicians in the UK who passed the Climate Change Act in 2008.

ShrNfr
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
March 10, 2017 11:36 am

Unfortunately, there are some rocks in my back yard that know far more about the climate than 99% of the politicians in the UK who passed the Climate Change Act in 2008. It is not very hard you know.

NW sage
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
March 10, 2017 4:58 pm

ShrNfr – are you saying that “dumb as a box of rocks” is a compliment to those politicians? I agree!

Mike McMillan
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
March 10, 2017 7:17 pm

Anyone who pays attention to anything written about climate change or skeptics thereof in Wikipidio is also “dumb as a box of rocks.” Look up “Watts Up With That” for an education on bias. (BTW, you’re allowed to edit any Wiki article if you want to.)

Greg
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:31 am

“Minister for the United Kingdom in the European Parliament”

Thanks Griff. The fake democracy currently running Europe does not have any ministers at all, so little change of anyone being one.

Meetings of european ministers of finance, for example, are meeting of national ministers of finance from the member states.

Jane Davies
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:54 am

You show your ignorance Griff, Roger is very knowledgeable on the climate change and warming myth. His place on the panel is well deserved.

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Reply to  Jane Davies
March 11, 2017 12:13 pm

Jane Davies,
Roger, as Griff points out correctly, is not a ‘Minister’.
Now, Griff is not my favourite person in the whole wide world, probably by several billion, but on that he is correct. And that seems pretty unusual . . . .

Roger H may indeed be very knowledgeable on Climate Change, but he is not a minister.
He is a Member of the European Parliament (MEP); the EP has [per Wikipedia, which even I can edit] has 751 members, and (for some reason) 14 Vice-Presidents.
Albeit, when Brexit occurs, Roger Helmer, MEP, will lose the MEP income he receives now.

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Jane Davies
Reply to  Jane Davies
March 11, 2017 3:08 pm

I know he is not a minister and I do not know who wrote the piece under his photo saying he is. But knowing Roger, when the UK breaks the shackles of the EU, I can say with good authority that he campaigned for years for the UK to leave and him losing his job is well worth leaving that corrupt organization. He has said so on many occasions. I trust very few politicians but he is one of them.

George McFly......I'm your density
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 1:24 pm

So Griff your standard practice is to play the man and not the ball. We were taught not to do this as children

catweazle666
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 6:51 pm

And you are an obnoxious scientifically illiterate pathetic little troll who is paid to lie about the professional credentials of respectable scientists who your paymasters consider are likely to jepoardise their nice lucrative gravy train.

What was it you called all the AGW sceptics… ah yes, “mad, stupid or paid for”, wasn’t it?

What a thoroughly vile, unprincipled creature you are.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 7:03 pm

“Griff March 10, 2017 at 11:13 am

Roger Helmer isn’t minister for anything.

He’s merely an MEP.

He knows nothing at all about climate and his career…”

From your own link Griff states “Member of the European Parliament for East Midlands”. So you can’t even read the links you post. Talking of knowing nothing about climate (A made up number), if the cap fits, Griff, wear it.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 7:45 pm

Griffy!

You gonna take another shot at Dr Crockford?

Having the anonymous Griff critique the public life of an elected official is…peculiar to say the least.

Can’t wait to read further in this thread to get more Griffy pithy ad hominems.

Griff
March 10, 2017 11:17 am

Susan Crockford is not a polar bear scholar. she is a paid political commentator.

Here’s some actual polar bear science.

https://www.carbonbrief.org/polar-bears-and-climate-change-what-does-the-science-say

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:29 am

Griff, you forgot that you have already been Climateottered for that canard. Have you read her new book on polar bears yet?

PiperPaul
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 4:14 pm
PiperPaul
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 4:16 pm
NW sage
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 5:00 pm

Griff knows how to read – but not very fast. He’s still on ‘See Sally run.’

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:38 am

I see that Griff is determined to triple down on stupid.

AndyG55
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:48 am

You had your butt totally whipped last time, griff.

Your brain-washed masochistic tendencies are now coming to the fore.

It seems that you LIKE being shown to be a monuMENTAL fool.

Greg
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:49 am

Griff since you were already stupid enough to make this ignorant claim in pubic and make a total fool of yourself, a wise man would apologise and the shut the f. up about the subject.

AndyG55
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:51 am

Poor griff , still hasn’t figured it out, have you little child-mind…

… Carbonbreifs doesn’t do science or facts… they do propaganda.

And you fall for it every time.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 12:01 pm

“she is a paid political commentator.”

Says who? Where? How much is she paid? By whom? Is that her only job, or did she just get paid for an article she wrote?

MarkW
Reply to  Roger Knights
March 10, 2017 12:32 pm

In Griff’s mind (if I can use the term that loosely) anyone who disagrees with the client science gang does so because they are paid to.
More projection on his part.

Janice The American Elder
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 12:06 pm

Griff, since you have already been beaten up over this issue, one can only assume that the name “Griff” has been stolen. Therefore: Who are you? And what have you done with the real Griff?

Bryan A
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 12:16 pm

Griff vs Broken Clock
similarities…
Face, hands, internal cogs & springs, often wound to tightly
difference…
even a broken clock is correct twice a day

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 12:24 pm

Susan Crockford is not a polar bear scholar. she is a paid political commentator

Dear Griff:

Before even considering making such an ad hominem attack, you should at least read the information on Dr. Crockford’s scholarly qualifications and achievements at https://polarbearscience.com/2015/03/12/on-being-a-polar-bear-expert-among-other-things/ Note the list of around 30 academic publications. How many academic publications have you authored or co-authored?

Speaking about getting paid, are most of the scientists who are claiming that global warming is a big threat working and attending conferences at their own expense? And by the way what’s your source of support?

And are most of those scientists on your side of the debate indifferent to politics?

Paul
Reply to  Ralph Dave Westfall
March 10, 2017 1:19 pm

Dear Griff…you should at least read…”

That’s quite a demanding proposition you’ve laid out.

hunter
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 3:14 pm

Griff, you lie as badly as you do….just about everything but make an arse of yourself.

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 3:58 pm

Pure Alarmist garbage. Typical fare for our resident Warmist Troll.

Sheri
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 5:38 pm

Isn’t carbonbrief a political propaganda site?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 7:12 pm

“Griff March 10, 2017 at 11:17 am”

Even the numbers in the second link states populations are ~25,000, higher than populations in 1960. The, presumably, image in the first link is not available. I wonder what image that was, maybe the fake one with a lone polar bear on a small fragment of ice? Who knows, but the link to that is unavailable, speaks volumes about the “science” in that article.

Griff
March 10, 2017 11:19 am

Myron Ebell isn’t even a scientist. He majored in philosophy at the University of California in San Diego, then studied political theory at the London School of Economics and history at Cambridge.

He does have a long record being paid to oppose client science paid for by fossil fuel companies.

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:28 am

Bill Nye is a mechanical engineer. I guess we can do this all day.

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:32 am

He led the EPA transition team and has a birds eye view of what Trump and Pruitt plan to do there. That is good enough for a talk at this meeting.You won’t like that swamp being drained, but your side lost.

Bryan A
Reply to  ristvan
March 10, 2017 12:21 pm

Myron Ebell- Major in Philosophy…hmmm … EPA leader
Stephan Lewandowski – Major in Psychology … Conspiracy Theorist

Greg
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:34 am

Well, I’d rather have someone trained in philosophy and politics in a political position than than a scientist who has ZERO understanding of politics, thinking that he is qualified and an authority on political policy and how to achieve it because he has a degree in bogus science like “climatology” from a “climate change institute”.

Greg
Reply to  Greg
March 10, 2017 11:45 am

All the scientist , pseudo politicians have been able to come up with as a political strategy is to lie and make exaggerated claims to scare people into adopting their political objectives. When this did not work, all they can think of doing is shout a bit louder.

They have the political insights and acumen of a 16 year old ( which is probably unfair to a lot of 16 y. olds).

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:39 am

And the head of the IPCC for many years was a railroad engineer.
Is that really the best you can do Griffie?

Reply to  MarkW
March 10, 2017 11:55 am

And Nobel Prize winner and Global Warming Evangelist Al Gore was a tobacco farmer.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkW
March 10, 2017 7:24 pm

“Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7 March 10, 2017 at 11:55 am”

Coal and oil farming too, Oxydental, family fortune made in “dirty” industries.

Raven
Reply to  MarkW
March 11, 2017 7:34 am

Hey, the expertise of a railroad engineer is just the ticket to drive a gravy train. 😉

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:40 am

“client science”

Was that a Freudian slip on Griffies part?

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
March 10, 2017 12:34 pm

I’m going to use Griff’s term rather whenever I talk about the work of the warmists from now on.

AndyG55
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:45 am

Poor Griff.. sprouting his fool’s ramblings yet again
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tony mcleod
Reply to  AndyG55
March 10, 2017 7:54 pm

Striking.

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Reply to  AndyG55
March 11, 2017 12:23 pm

AndyG55
Is that the late great Marty Feldman?
Certainly looks like him.

Auto

richardscourtney
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 11:50 am

Griff:

Myron Ebell and I are poles apart but we have had occasional interactions for years. I hold him in the highest regard.

So-called climate science is almost entirely political advocacy for interest groups with the remainder of it being data manipulation. President Bush made an election promise to reduce America’s promotion of the global warming scare. An important part of fulfilling that promise would be to reign-back the EPA’s promotion of the scare.

Myron Ebell provided the transition work at the US EPA for President Bush. I shall be watching the live screening of his presentation at the conference with avid interest.

On the other hand, I am glad that time at the conference is not being wasted by providing it to the likes of you.

Richard

Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 11:56 am

For “President Bush” read “President Trump”.

AndyG55
Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 11:57 am

How is President Bush involved in this ??

AndyG55
Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 11:57 am

chuckle.. 😉

Don B
Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 11:58 am

Did you mean to say President Trump, not Bush, made an election promise to reduce America’s promotion of the global warming scare?

richardscourtney
Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 12:11 pm

Alan Watt:

Thankyou very much for your correction of my error. I tend to proof read what I intended to write and not what I did write. Sorry.

As you say, it was President Trump.

Also, whilst writing, it may not be obvious to some that when I wrote
“Myron Ebell and I are poles apart but we have had occasional interactions for years. I hold him in the highest regard. ”
I meant
“Myron Ebell and I are politically poles apart but we have had occasional interactions for years. I hold him in the highest regard. ”

Again, thankyou for correcting me.

Richard

george e. smith
Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 1:58 pm

So just when did you two Poles split up Richard ??

I had you figured somewhat more Celtic .

Just goes to show you can’t depend on anything these days.

G

Reply to  richardscourtney
March 10, 2017 5:43 pm

george, Richard meant there was always a Polish separation team standing between him and Mr. Ebell. 🙂

toorightmate
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 1:13 pm

Griff old mate,
You are right.
Myron is not a scientist in the same class as Al Gore (thank bloody goodness).

Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 2:44 pm

William D. Ruckelshaus was a lawyer put in charge of the EPA and he killed more people (>400 million and counting) than Adolf Hitler plus Mao Zedong plus Joseph Stalin (130 million est.)
Why is WUWT pet rock still allowed to post?

RockyRoad
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 5:06 pm

Well Griff, our resident “judge” on all things political/climatic–what is YOUR CV so we’ll have some idea where you’re coming from, because when it comes to the subject of politics, climate, weather, geology, mathematics, etc. etc., I don’t see any discipline…

yet.

I’m waiting to see upon what you base your criticisms.

Sheri
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 5:39 pm

The ONLY people paid for by fossil fuel companies are their employees. You really should give it up.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 7:20 pm

I wonder what scientific qualifications in the field of climate did the economists/politicians studied and qualified in before stating that a “price on carbon” is needed to tackle climate change? My guess would be none.Actually, it’s not a guess at all, it’s fact.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 7:57 pm

Griff

And what are you, I mean other than an anonymous coward who attacks women?

Graemethecat
Reply to  Griff
March 10, 2017 10:45 pm

Griff: the great physicist Josiah Willard Gibbs was trained as an engineer, not a physicist. Dr Crockford has made valuable contributions to polar bear ecology and zoology. What have YOU ever accomplished, you miserable troll?

March 10, 2017 11:23 am

I think you will find that Roger Helmer is UKIP MEP in the EU Parliament. A mathematician and member of UKIP, which is the only political party in the UK with a sensible policy on climate change and on energy.

Greg
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
March 10, 2017 11:39 am

MEPs have zero political power. Please do not try to give them an importance they do not possess by calling them “ministers” Their fake “parliament” is there to rubber stamp decisions made ny non elected commissioners, to give it a veneer of political respectability. They can not even raise a motion to repeal an earlier act of the European Parliament.

Most people in Europe do not even know the name of their so-called MEP.

It is a farce.

Jaakko Kateenkorva
Reply to  Greg
March 10, 2017 12:02 pm

Oh boy. EU is far from perfect, but nothing compared to (an independence party of) a geographical and political island with a House of Lords and hereditary cAGW monarch day-dreaming about reincarnation as a deadly virus.

Reply to  Greg
March 10, 2017 12:12 pm

yes – that’s why we are leaving.

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Reply to  Greg
March 11, 2017 12:43 pm

Jaakko K,
Yes, pretty cool place, these islands [that is reflected in the winter mortality rate, unhappily].

Our Lords is now stuffed with (mostly) failed politicians.
Reform is needed – only nobody can agree on what reform.

My solution is an elected House of Elders [English for Senate (from the same root as Senile)]; crucially, older voters get extra votes. Also ‘achievers’ [Olympic Gold, VC or GC holders, Company owners, Mothers, and probably much more] would get one or more extra votes, too.

Some will disagree. Fine, the UK is still relatively a free-speech area.
But – some universities are seeking to limit that to free watermelon-speech, it seems.

Auto

March 10, 2017 11:59 am

Keep up all the great work, I will donate today…please have a couple drinks on me. Thank you.

Admin
March 10, 2017 12:18 pm

Looking forward to it – see some of you guys there 🙂

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 18, 2017 12:22 pm

Yes, I look forward to meeting you. Shall we all have a toast to the process of skeptical thinking?

John

seaice1
March 10, 2017 12:42 pm

“Lord Christopher Monckton
Former chief policy advisor to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher”

Not sure that claim stands up to scrutiny. He was certainly not given any such official title. Some supporting evidence?

george e. smith
Reply to  seaice1
March 10, 2017 2:08 pm

I’m thinking he was some sort of “Science” adviser to PM Thatcher. Not sure “chief policy advisor” is a correct reference.

But whether formal of informal, I don’t recall his former history being questioned before.

But just what evidence do YOU have that he played no role whatsoever during the Thatcher years ?? or are you just fishing ??

G

seaice1
Reply to  george e. smith
March 11, 2017 4:00 pm

George, I did not say he had no role. I questioned the title. I would have had no problem if it read “Lord Monckton, some sort of advisor to Margaret Thatcher”

Philip Schaeffer
Reply to  george e. smith
March 12, 2017 10:21 pm

Monckton inflating his credentials? Say it isn’t so! I’m truly shocked.

rubberduck
Reply to  seaice1
March 11, 2017 6:53 pm

I’m sympathetic to the aims of this conference, but I would think twice about attending an event that includes Christopher Monckton. He used to claim membership of the House of Lords, until the Clerk of the Parliaments posted a letter saying that was untrue: http://www.parliament.uk/documents/lords-information-office/2011/letter-to-viscount-monckton-20110715.pdf I heard him speak one time at a seminar in Melbourne, and I wasn’t impressed. I notice that the Global Warming Policy Foundation doesn’t have any obvious relationship with him, and I wonder why.

Don Clifford
Reply to  rubberduck
March 14, 2017 1:31 pm

Monckton is a preeminent speaker in any climate realism conference. He has done yeoman’s work contradicting the misinformation of IPCC, and others. His role in the Thatcher administration gives him high level insight. If you really don’t like him, there will be 35 other prominent qualified engaging speakers.

March 10, 2017 12:58 pm

Sadly other schedule commitments preclude attending in person, but I shall take advantage of the live streaming feed. Unless it is hacked by Russians, or Deep State apparatchiks, or angry women wearing fuzzy hats.

Ed Zuiderwijk
March 10, 2017 1:00 pm

Sorry, can’t make it this year. Will try next year to attend. As speaker.

richard kiser
March 10, 2017 1:19 pm

The big question to me is how will the MSM cover this? Will it be like the past and they just ignor it? Or will it be an exposé of the shocking FACT that all the speakers have driven a car and are therefore unqualified to speak anywhere. Should be fun.

seaice1
Reply to  richard kiser
March 10, 2017 2:03 pm

I would guess the same way they cover any minority special interest conference-not at all.

george e. smith
Reply to  seaice1
March 10, 2017 2:10 pm

So pretty much the same as the Congressional “Black Caucus.” ??

G

george e. smith
Reply to  seaice1
March 10, 2017 2:18 pm

Come to think of it, I doubt that the MSM even bother to cover the annual University of Auckland Distinguished Alumni Awards Dinner, either.

MSM is a bit of an oxymoron isn’t it ??

G

Reply to  seaice1
March 11, 2017 2:53 am

seaice1 writes “I would guess the same way they cover any minority special interest conference-not at all.”

Now you are on the right track. Let’s continue all the way: the entire manmade climate change is a minority special interest topic.

I would guess they, the MSM tycoons at least, have abandoned the ship already. Rupert even left his own niece behind https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/03/08/the-climate-institute-to-close/. Perhaps few of their most loyal employees still have a role to play. But then what seaice1?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  seaice1
March 11, 2017 6:08 am

Heh – yeah, that’s why Skeptics/Climate Realists are winning; because they are a “minority special interest” group.

nc
Reply to  richard kiser
March 10, 2017 2:59 pm

MSM are getting exhausted by trying to keep up with Trump so maybe no energy left to cover.

RockyRoad
Reply to  richard kiser
March 10, 2017 5:15 pm

If there isn’t a strong Russian component to this shindig, I doubt they’ll give it the time of day. /sarc

tabnumlock
March 10, 2017 2:26 pm

There is only one branch of science that has anything useful to say about the future climate, Geology. They will tell you that we are at the end of a brief interglacial within an ice age and in the worst of only two CO2 crashes in earth’s history. Temps will soon begin to drop 9C over the next 90,000 years. The ice sheets will advance, deserts vastly expand and storms get very violent.

G. Karst
March 10, 2017 2:48 pm

I think ad hominem attacks should only be allowed by people who reveal their identity. That way the victim has some options and people such as named above will use a little discretion. GK

Sheri
Reply to  G. Karst
March 10, 2017 5:55 pm

Not sure that would help. Say your name is Bob Johnson. How many Bob Johnson’s are there out there? Are you going to require an address and phone number? How much information are people willing to divulge in order to comment. Even the very bright ones may not want to “share” to that degree.

G. Karst
Reply to  Sheri
March 10, 2017 7:54 pm

Sheri – if one spends their free time making countless attacks against various people, under ones real name, eventually the chickens will come home. Yes, if you are just a kid in your mother’s basement, there will be no effect. However, if you hold any position of any import, then it effectively reduces unfair anonymous attacks and smears.

No, I don’t think id verification is required. People eventually reveal their subterfuge, as lies always unravel. If I say: M. Mann is a complete science sell-out. I should at least let him know that it was I, G. Karst, who said that. if he wants redress… I’ll be in the alley in 15 minutes. GK

Melvyn Dackombe
March 10, 2017 3:11 pm

Why give Griff the time of day.

If he makes a comment, leave it unanswered. He only feeds off contradictory views. He will soon give up.

catweazle666
Reply to  Melvyn Dackombe
March 10, 2017 6:58 pm

You’ve got a point there.

As his job is to derail discussion by whatever means he thinks necessary, lying, misrepresention, insults and any other odious Alinskyite techniques that fall to hand, he probably gets paid by the number of posts his malicious garbage provokes.

So ignoring would hit him in the one place he will be hurt most – his wallet.

Javert Chip
Reply to  Melvyn Dackombe
March 10, 2017 8:18 pm

Melvyn

If Griff actually said anything of substance, or could intellectually engage on any of the technical discussions, he might be a problem.

He’s generally wildly off-base, seldom presents evidence, what evidence he produces is usually from The Guardian, Daily mail, or similar “document of record”, and (most endearing of all) his ad hominems almost qualify as self-flagellation.

Bottom line is his trivial comments serve as gentle reminders of the dangers of drinking cool-aid.

RockyRoad
Reply to  Javert Chip
March 10, 2017 9:31 pm

…especially the watermelon flavor laced with snowflakes and consumed in safe places.

asybot
Reply to  Melvyn Dackombe
March 12, 2017 11:48 am

I agree and after reading Anthony’s “state of the Site” earlier, I would suggest that he would start limiting Griff’s “contributions”. Just on this thread alone his and commenter’s answers have taken up over half the space, although I have to admit some of the things he says are so blatantly ridiculous, even I have a laugh.

fretslider
March 10, 2017 3:59 pm

Griff unmasked…

EGriff Registered on 12 May 2010

https://profile.theguardian.com/user/id/4149361/replies?page=1

Well I pick an article a day and arrow it the other way to the mob.

Reccomended therapy…

Also comment (politely) on WUWT and Steve Goddard websites. Find a valid mail address which is not your regular one: don’t post from work (other comenters will track your server and threaten to tell your employer – I have a secret server/mail cut out…)

Paranoid, just a little?

Reply to  fretslider
March 12, 2017 10:37 am

Well, you tracked him down so… No.
He is right to worry.

I do not use my first name on here because being associated with any political debate is harmful to one’s recruitment prospects or ability to get contracts. Anonymity to Google is good.

If you agreed with his views you wouldn’t have hunted him down. There are others on the other side just as ‘diligent’.
We are all right to worry.

March 11, 2017 4:26 am

If anyone is going to this event and plans to attend any of the Q&A sessions, I’d appreciate if someone did some “fact checking” on the claims I’ve made over at CO2isLife. Here is a list of the Smoking Guns. I’d greatly appreciate someone seeing if these claims can stand up to scrutiny.
Climate “Science” on Trial; The Smoking Gun Files
https://co2islife.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/climate-science-on-trial-the-smoking-gun-files/

March 12, 2017 10:26 am

Signed up and will be attending. Not much of a sacrifice really, as I make that commute every day.

On a side note, I’ve refrained from responding to the trolls as it is my one firm rule – that one must never feed the trolls. So I’m dismayed by the discourse on this site. Let them post their drive-by molotovs and ignore them. A lack of response is far more effective at removing such vermin than letting them know they struck a nerve. That just goads them on. Grow up. Be the adults on this forum. Just shake your head in disgust then go about your business. To quote that august philosopher, Forrest Gump, “That’s all I’ve got to say about that.”

asybot
Reply to  TomB
March 12, 2017 11:50 am

@ TomB , agreed 100%. it is the only way it will stop.

Reply to  TomB
March 18, 2017 12:08 am

I will be attending.

John

daveburton
March 17, 2017 3:36 pm

I’ll be attending from North Carolina. Anyone interested in car-pooling?

Contact info: http://www.sealevel.info/contact.html

Reply to  daveburton
March 18, 2017 12:06 am

I will be attending.

John

daveburton
Reply to  John Whitman
March 21, 2017 9:17 am

I’m planning on leaving tomorrow (Wed.) afternoon, probably 4-ish. Are you interested in carpooling?

March 18, 2017 4:47 pm

At ICCC 12 this week I look forward to some discussions of climate policy descisions versus: 1) the philosophy of science based on subjective metaphysics resulting from any theory claiming dual realities and 2) the philosophy of science based on the metaphysics of a direct objectively documented reality.

The former philosophy of science gives you the exaggeration and idealological bias of IPCC reports sponsored by the UN. The later philosophy of science gives you multiple independent and severely critical skeptical scientific works using open intense processes of dialog/ argumentation.

John