From the “all aboard that gravy train” department come this self-congratulatory press release from UNFCCC yesterday. I’m not so sure about the word “force” as the agreement is non-binding and entirely voluntary. Even Dr. James Hansen, the man who started this mess, says it’s a fraud.
“It’s just bullshit for them to say: ‘We’ll have a 2C warming target and then try to do a little better every five years.’ It’s just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will be continued to be burned.” -James Hansen
I have to agree. Plus, when a climate conference has day themes like BINGO Day, Gender Day, and Climate Justice Day (see press release below”, you can be well assured that’s it’s more about tribal squabbling than it is about saving the planet. AND, when they use phrase like “transparent global regime“, once I stopped laughing, I realized they need a better copy writer. Sheesh.
It is worthwhile to look back at how Josh sees these conferences.
Worldwide Green Light for Climate Action as Paris Agreement Enters into Force
(Marrakech, 4 November 2016) – A big green light for faster, stronger climate action was switched on today as the Paris Climate Change Agreement entered into force, only three days before the start of this year’s UN Climate Change Conference in Marrakech.
“The Paris Agreement’s ambitious and essential goals are now a live reality for every government. From today, ever-increasing climate action becomes an accepted responsibility and a central part of the sustainable development plans of all countries,” said Patricia Espinosa, Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC).
The international effort to bring the Paris Agreement into force in less than a year – an unexpectedly rapid result – reflects the strong, common political will to shift as quickly as possible towards the low-carbon, resilient economies and societies which are the only way to avoid the worst impacts of climate change.
“Climate action – faster, smarter, bigger and better – reduces the greenhouse gas emissions which drive climate change and at the same time catalyzes the clean power economies and climate-resilient societies which are the foundation on which the future health, wealth and well-being of all people now depend,” said Ms. Espinosa.
Last year, countries of the world constructed a fresh, integrated vision for the future which rests firmly on the Paris Agreement, the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and the Sendai Framework for Disaster Risk Reduction.
These momentous agreements must succeed together and require unprecedented scale and depth of universal and concerted action involving all governments, local and regional authorities, business and investment actors at all levels and in all countries.
Pressing Timetable and Key Tasks for Marrakech Conference
The timetable is pressing. The Paris Agreement’s primary goal – to limit global warming to well below 2°C and as close to 1.5°C as possible to prevent dangerous tipping points in the climate system – means that global emissions must peak soon then be driven down very rapidly.
Yet greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere and global average temperatures continue rising, underlining the urgent task in front of the two-week COP 22 conference in Marrakech, beginning Monday, 7 November.
The Agreement’s early entry into force has focused minds on completing the fundamental work and confirming the key requirements that will allow countries together to implement Paris’s goals at the required scale and speed. In Marrakech, that includes several important issues.
Marrakech will host the first meeting of the Paris Agreement’s governing body, known as the CMA. This is a moment of celebration but also a moment of reflection on the task ahead and a point where governments recommit to the new agenda of rapid implementation, not least in pressing forward with adequate support for vulnerable countries to take their own action.
To read the provisional agenda and a Q&A on the legal and procedural issues regarding the convening of the CMA 1, please see here.
Meanwhile, work will continue in Marrakech to complete the details of a transparent global regime, or rulebook, which will account for, review and underpin greater action by all sides.
It is the completed rulebook that will make the Paris Agreement work smoothly over the years and decades to come. The early entry into force of the Agreement calls for a speedy completion of the rulebook, ideally by 2018.
Marrakech also gives developed countries the opportunity to present their roadmap to mobilize the pledged 100 billion dollars in annual support to developing countries by 2020.
The Standing Committee on Finance will present its Biennial Assessment report, which provides a picture of climate finance flows for the period 2013-2014. It will do so at a side event on Monday, 7 November at 13:15-14:45.
Governments will also be looking to increase clarity for adaptation finance and for a mechanism to strengthen capacity building, which supports developing countries to build up their internal skills and institutional strengths to build their own clean energy, sustainable futures.
Climate-friendly national policies are central to the successful delivery of the Paris goals. This is especially so because the Agreement’s success rests on full implementation of the global set of national climate action plans.
COP 22 will see initiatives that support the implementation of these so-called Nationally Determined Contributions(NDCs) and help integrate them into each country’s development agenda alongside the Sustainable Development Goals.
The NDCs coupled with governments’ publicly accepted responsibility to lead climate action under the Agreement, place an emphasis on how countries integrate climate action and implement sustainable development and risk management goals across sectors and ministries.
One initiative to support countries in this is the NDC Partnership. Launching on Tuesday, 15 November, the NDC Partnership is a coalition of developing and developed countries and international institutions working together to ensure countries receive the technical and financial support they need to achieve climate and sustainable development goals as fast and effectively as possible.
Policy, incentives and regulation should all work in a concerted, coherent manner to enable every country to deliver their climate and sustainability contributions and, crucially, to increase exponentially the climate action by cities, states, companies, investors and citizens.
For this reason, Marrakech will provide a Global Climate Action forum over the two weeks to showcase and hear new initiatives from the many public and private partnerships that are driving global climate action to unprecedented levels.
Links to further information on key events and areas of the agenda during COP 22 follow:
Marrakech Climate Change Conference Highlights
Marrakech Climate Change Conference overview schedule.
- Special Days at the Conference
- Tuesday, 8 November, EarthInfo Day
- Wednesday, 9 November, Farmers’ Day
- Thursday, 10 November, Young and Future Generations Day
- Friday, 11 November, BINGO day
- Monday, 14 November, Education Day
- Tuesday, 15 November, Gender Day
- Wednesday, 16 November, Africa Day
- Thursday, 17 November, Climate Justice Day
- Global Climate Action
Mobilizing stronger and more ambitious climate action by all Parties and non-Party stakeholders is urgently required if the goals of the Paris Agreement are to be achieved. This is the main objective of the Global Climate Action Championswho with the support of the UNFCCC secretariat have organized a series of thematic events during COP 22.
The events range from agriculture and food security to cities and human settlements, energy, forests, industry and business, oceans, transport and water. This programme will culminate on a High-level Event on Accelerating Climate Action on Thursday, 17 November that will bring together governments, business, investors, subnational leaders and civil society representatives. The event will showcase the enormous groundswell of climate action on the ground and will outline the actions needed to connect the implementation of actions by Parties and by Non-Party Stakeholders.
- Action for Climate Empowerment
Action for Climate Empowerment (ACE) – education, training and public awareness on climate change – alongside UN agencies and youth organizations will host two thematic days on youth and education.
The Young and Future Generations Day will be convened on Thursday, 10 November 2016. The Intergenerational Inquiry and the Global Youth Video Competition on Climate Change award ceremony are among the variety of events organized for the day.
The Education Day, on Monday, 14 November 2016, will see a High-level Event on education as a driver of change where the new ACE guidelines for focal points will be launched.
- Momentum for Change
The UNFCCC’s Momentum for Change initiative will host a series of special events to recognize the 13 winners of the 2016 Momentum for Change Award during the second week of the conference.
Momentum for Change shines a light on some of the most innovative, scalable and replicable examples of what people are doing to address climate change. Each of this year’s 13 winning activities touches on one of Momentum for Change’s three focus areas: Women for Results, Financing for Climate Friendly Investment and ICT Solutions.
- The Women for Results special event will be held on Tuesday, 15 November.
- The Financing for Climate Friendly Investment special event will be held on Wednesday, 16 November. Also taking place on 16 November is the not-to-be missed Momentum for Change award ceremony.
- The ICT Solutions special event will be held on Thursday, 17 November.
In addition, Momentum for Change will launch two new focus areas at COP 22: Planetary Health (Saturday, 12 November); and Climate Neutral Now (Thursday, 17 November).
- Finally, Momentum for Change is pleased to host a special event on energy efficiency through smart-lighting systems on Saturday, 12 November.
All of the Momentum for Change events listed above will take place in the Climate Action Arena Room Fes.
- Mandated Events
A variety of events mandated by the Parties will take place covering crucial aspects of the ongoing efforts on mitigation and adaptation as well as key issues for an effective implementation of the Paris Agreement.
The climate finance necessary for achieving the goals of the Paris Agreement will discussed at an in-session workshop on the modalities for the accounting of public finance on 8 November and a High Level Ministerial Dialogue on Climate Finance on Wednesday, 16 November.
Assessing and increasing immediate ambition pre-2020 will be also at the center of the discussions in the Facilitative dialogue on enhancing ambition and support on Friday, 11 and Wednesday, 16 November.
Increased transparency of countries’ mitigation efforts will be discussed at the Second workshop of the facilitative sharing of views under the International Consultation and Analysis process on Thursday, 10 and Friday, 11 November.
Also in the spirit of transparency and accountability, on Saturday, 12 and Monday, 14 November, the second round of the multilateral assessment process will give the opportunity to developed country Parties to show progress in their emissions reductions efforts and the provision of support to non-Annex I Parties.
Health and adaptation will be the subject of the 10th Focal Point Forum of the Nairobi work programme on Wednesday, 9 November.
- Side Events and Exhibits
During the conference a large number of official side events will be held under the theme “Accelerating implementation of the Paris Agreement”. Side events include a series of UNFCCC events, as listed in the overview schedule for the conference under “UNFCCC and special events”.
In addition, a large number of side events and exhibits will be hosted by observer organizations.
Another reason for electing an outsider who has the rational ability to see through this bs and sideline the climate consensus gravy train. The social mania of the climate committed needs to be forced to face reality, and lose their power.
They need to be banned from academia and any government institutions for reasons of fraud.
Anyone that saw great profit should be imprisoned for graft and fraud and treason.
Banning them is the last thing you would want to do. You would just make them martyrs and the true believers would canonize them.
Far better to let their shrill voices become every more unrealistic and for more and more people to learn on their own that they are frauds.
After all, if GW is only part of a natural cycle, than the downturn will come, and people freezing in their shorts are not going to be sympathetic.
They need to be imprisoned for treason and fraud.
Dream on.
I can’t wait to hear the moaning when Prez Donnie hires anti-cagw types to fill his cabinet posts.
Hey Jimmy; they don’t just appear to be the cheapest fuels out there.
They ARE the cheapest fuels out there; and they would be even cheaper, if they weren’t also the most heavily taxed commodities out there.
The reason other “fuels” “appear” to be more expensive, is because they ARE more expensive, which means they are less efficient, and possibly not even real sources at all, but just an uneconomical drain on already existing cheap fuel sources.
G
Trump is no outsider. He hasn’t held political office, but he’s been a friend and confidant to left wing politicians for decades/
I don’t suppose they would have a “CO2 is greening the earth and feeding the hungry” Day, do you?
Or warming is good day!
“I don’t suppose they would have a “CO2 is greening the earth and feeding the hungry” Day, do you?”
If they were honest they would cover it be here.
Thursday, 10 November, Young and Future Generations Day
“The Paris Agreement’s ambitious and essential goals are now a live reality for every government. From today, ever-increasing climate action becomes an accepted responsibility and a central part of the sustainable development plans of all countries,” said Patricia Espinosa, Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC)……”
This is communist central planning from the U.N. masquerading as environmentalism. Anyone who thought that communist central planning died with the Soviet Union and its East European satellites hasn’t been paying much attention to the U.N. lately.
We are all glorious comrades in the new eco-socialist global worker state complete with a Central Politburo at the UN.
BINGO?
You couldn’t make this up.
What, no ‘Pin-the-tail-on-the-d*nier’?
Most conferences have a Golf Day, but Bingo!
I assume it’s not the game, please figure out what it is and report back.
Scoff all you like… the fact is the world’s governments acknowledged climate change as a fact and pledged to do something about it.
That will direct government policy and encourage Co2 reduction, e.g increase the pace of renewables adoption.
Those not accepting the science are definitely not the majority, or of the prevailing opinion.
…Dear Griffy, please explain to me. When, in the last 4,5 BILLION years , did the climate STOP changing…Can you name the exact year and how long did it last ???
It has changed constantly as we all know… but what we have to look at is: why is it changing now? What is the driver for current climate change?
and the only candidate is human produced CO2.
“and the only candidate is human produced CO2.”
Utter drivel.
Stop making stuff up.
Griff, you say “why is it changing now?”
you know the answer, as YOU wrote…. “It has changed constantly as we all know”
the question is ‘What is the driver for all climate change?
Clue…. NOT CO2.
Oh you poor, blind ignorant Griff.
Don’t you recognize people who are motiviated by money when you see them? I will suggest to you that many of the countries that have signed up for this are planning on being on the receiving end of all that money going into that Green Fund that the U.N. has set up. They signed on the dotted line with dollar signs ($$$$) in their eyes Obama, being the way he is, has already paid into the fund on behalf of the U.S. Don’t know how many other of the wealthy developed nations have done so…and how much they are going to put into it.
Griff, wealth redistribution is an integral part of communist central ideological game plan. Don’t you know that? I’m willing to bet that it matters not one iota to many of these countries whether the science of CAGW is sound or not (it isn’t). As long as it improves the health of their bank accounts, just show them where to sign.
Money makes the world go round Griff. Hopefully, someday day you will be enlightened enough to realize that.
Exactly, India , one of the key players in future CO2 emissions has dutifully signed up with lots of “intent” but says it wants ( “needs” ) 2.5 TRILLION DOLLORS and special cheap deals on technology to make it happen.
Well, hell with a rider like that , who would not sign up.
Then of course if they don’t get the payola, they just reneg and say it is all our fault. WIN-WIN situation, with no risk.
Meanwhile the serial climate deceivers at the Guardian are claiming that U.S. has ratified the Paris agreement.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/04/paris-climate-change-agreement-enters-into-force
Greg, India is also transforming its energy generation infrastructure by rolling out 160GW of new renewable capacity by 2022. Dozens of contracts and solar farms etc, etc already placed and building.
Griff believes that anyone who acts in a manner that Griff approves, must be doing so for noble methods.
Griff, all paid for by someone else.
They didn’t define “climate change” before they declared it fact.
@Gamecock – How could they? It’s meaningless. And as such, it’s a perfect slogan for a strategy based on on cherry-picked data, “adjusted” data and self-fulfilling computer simulations. And outright lies about fossil-fuel-industry funding for those of us dumb enough to stand in the path of their oncoming juggernaut.
Griff, I asked you before how you thought the climate is changing that has you so alarmed. You refused to answer that question. You have also been asked repeatedly to state the evidence that has convinced you that CAGW stands on legitimate scientific merit. I have yet to see any kind of response to these questions as well.
So let’s try this one: Let’s say that all the initiatives put forth by the Paris Climate Accord is implemented fully by the entire world. What effect to you think that will have on global climate?
“are implemented”
well duh!
The surface and satellite temp series show this as the warmest year on record, the arctic sea ice hit second lowest extent and is at a record low for October through to this date, glaciers are retreating, etc, etc, etc
Tens of dozens of observed scientific measurements show a warming world and changed climate.
I wonder you hadn’t noticed…!
And the least effect of Paris would be to slow warming… which would mean things were less worse later.
1) It may be the warmest on record, the margin of error is at least an order of magnitude larger than the alleged increase in temperature.
2) I love the way Griffy keeps trying to pretend that El Ninos are actually climate.
3) Sea ice has been more or less constant for the last 10 years, and are driven by 60 year long cycles. We have only 30 years of data.
Earlier this year when ice levels were way higher than the 2012 numbers, he was declaring that current ice levels were meaningless. Now with the ice levels below the 2012 level, it’s the only thing that matters.
In a few months when ice levels are back above the 2012 mark, he will once again change his opinion.
All without any apparent embarrassment.
Griff, how long is your record?
If you aren’t totally indoctrinated with CAGW dogma, study the Earth’s history, and extend your record to 12000 years, you would know that we are actually in one of the cooler periods of time in the entire Holocene Epoch. So why would you want to slow warming? Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing going on in today’s climate that is in any way unprecedented.
Glaciers are melting? Well duh, as you would say. We are in an interglacial period. What do you think glaciers are supposed to do during an interglacial period? Go back in time 6000 years and you would find no arctic ice.
Name one point in the Earth’s history when climate was not changing.
I’m not surprised you hadn’t noticed any of this.
And if you think the Paris accords are going to slow warming, I have some beach front property in the Gobi Desert I’ll sell you, cheap.
“… the world’s governments …”. Please note that the US Government has not acknolweged climate change as a fact. The Excutive Branch, in the person of the President, has. The Judiciary has been pretty mum on the topic, and a majority of the Legislative Branch has definitely not acknowledged CC as a fact.
Now, links to that “science” that proves that CC is a fact, please.
Just like you are only a scientist when you agree with the warmunists, you are also only recognized as a government when you agree with them.
“Those not accepting the science”
I think there’s a better word for it than that…
– propaganda?
– groupthink?
– coercion?
– delusion?
Feel free to add more for Griff, who appears to be suffering from all of these.
– Word of Gore?
After all, it’s using “the science” the same way a minister would use “the Word of God”.
The dictionary definition of denier is:
“A person who refuses to admit the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the majority of scientific or historical evidence.”
In other words one who doesn’t accept the science.
go argue with the Oxford dictionary…
As always, Griffy defines a scientist as one that agrees with him.
@Griff: Climate has a very long history of changing, and would be changing even if we were not here. It has been both warmer, and colder than it is now in the past 2000 years, and more greatly so in both directions when the longer time periods of the entire Holocene and prior times are included.
Changes in the technologies of power generation and transportation could make a big difference in CO2 emissions long-term, but are not the only factors involved in the airborne Concentrations of that gas. Tremendous volumes of it go into, and out of the oceans each year, strongly tied to ocean surface temperatures in various locations, and facilitated by the ocean currents.
The dire predictions of The Climate Alarmism industry, have, by and large, failed to come to pass. Yes, right now, there is less ice in the Arctic than at the end of the LIA, and the ’70s cooling period (which had its own ‘Ice Age’ alarmism.) So what? Arctic ice is an insulator, slowing heat flow from Arctic waters to space. when there is less ice, the heat transfer is more rapid.
When one considers the so-called ‘global average temperature’ products (NOAA, NASA, HadCRUT, etc.,) the conspicuous change in actual measurements is in the slow rising of the minimum temps, and the slow lowering of the maximum temps. Looking at the specific measurements themselves, these products are created with some sections of the world un-sampled, with the closest direct measurement up to 1000Km away. At best, this makes the products approximations, or estimates, and when the measurement siting and technique is flawed, at worst, bogus.
That politicians have bought into this is unsurprising, as the Alarmist perspective is highly funded by governments and NGO’s. Remember the formal mission of the IPCC? NOT to determine the cause of Global Warming, but to find the human (anthropogenic) influences. All research that does not support the Anthro meme is ignored.
Now that we are almost 3 decades since Hansen’s ’88 Congressional testimony, the hoped-for results of alternative energy investment have not been made manifest. Instead, the insufficiency of wind and solar to provide reliable base loads has been experienced, as has the blight on the countryside, and the much higher costs. Even with the ongoing ‘Adjustment’ of the historical temperature history, How are governments ACTING differently now that the ‘Paris Agreement’ is in force? Reducing or eliminating subsidies, investing in Coal power generation, and opening Nuclear power plants.
Despite the rhetoric, the PA is not binding on any nation to actually DO much at all It’s all plans and promises without force of law, and the nations which sighed it know exactly that… It’s just talk and posturing to support political calculus.
Regards
signed it…
yes Steve, there is an annual, natural carbon cycle… but human CO2 is in addition to that cycle… the continuing addition of human CO2 is producing the problem.
I think honestly you are not looking at what is happening in renewable energy.
It works, it delivers huge percentages of the electricity of the countries who have invested most in it. It is a new industrial revolution out there.
Griff: “It works…”
Some of the time, at a horrific cost to both the energy users and the environment.
But hey, who cares about the poor, the elderly and the environment when you’re “Saving the World™”, right Grifter?
What science are you talking about?
BTW: the world’s governments will continue to do precisely what they want to do about CAGW. Except for a couple of delusional Western governments (e.g. Germany), that will be nothing.
Scoff all you like…keep calm and think deplorable
Grifter, please point out where anyone has ever asserted that the climate doesn’t change.
Don’t worry Griff.
China, India and many other countries will be INCREASING their use of COAL and other FOSSIL FUELS for many, many years to come.
There will be PLENTY of atmospheric CO2 for world food production for a long, long time.
And guess what…
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING the AGW scammers can do about it! 🙂
“…Scoff all you like… the fact is the world’s governments acknowledged climate change as a fact and pledged to do something about it….”
OMG!!! You cannot be Serious!!!
Don’t know if you’ll persuade anyone here, go talk to Hansen-he’s not buyin it, griff.
You guys don’t seem to get it. Griff is trolling you and winning. He posts one thing and just sits back and watches all the bees buzz about. It’s funny, really.
Unfortunately you’re wrong, Jeff.
If you inspect his posts on the Guardian climate blogs, you will find he really is as utterly deluded about just about everything as his posts on here indicate.
Strange but true!
jeff you are absolutely right I would suggest none of us should reply, he’ll soon go back to the basement crying. BTW I didn’t realize this charade in Marrakesh is a 2 week long bash. Disgusting. I wonder if Canada has the biggest delegation (again).
Your replies are not for Griff. they are for the people who stumble onto this site and might be influenced by a well thought out reply to Griff.
There will be plenty of other replies to Griff and other trolls. Unfortunately, very few of them will be well thought out replies.
I’d like to think I’m engaging in debate about climate.
I put up a counter argument to the article, then you get the chance to demolish it with well thought out argument backed by links to scientific evidence. That’s how it works, right?
Though sometimes I feel that this isn’t the ten shilling argument and ‘you’re just contradicting me!’
Griff: “I’d like to think I’m engaging in debate about climate.”
Says the ‘Unreliables’ shill paid to troll sceptic blogs and insult the contributors by the wind and solar industries…
Come off it sunshine, you don’t have the scientific literacy to comprehend Archimedes’ Principle, never mind a subject as complex as the climate, as you demonstrate every time you post.
Griffin, congratulations on not only revealing your ignorance so clearly but also in demonstrating a complete lack of the facts in one brief post.
Griff — nobody is arguing that the climate is not changing. In addition, few people are arguing that there is not a man-made component in climate change (in particular with regard to fossil fuels and carbon dioxide.)
However, my opinion is that most media overstates the harm associated with man-made climate change and I have read enough of the science to have confirmed this basic fact. I doubt that you have read the science because I haven’t seen you cite any.
For instance, the only documented harms associated with climate change is more frequent and longer heatwaves (also less frequent and shorter cold snaps) and a rise in sea level (~7.5 inches in the 20th century.) It is difficult to understand how this is such an important issue — especially since 20 times as many people die from cold as die from heat.
Among the issues which may be linked to population increases and land use changes, but have not linked to greenhouse gas emissions are:
— species extinction
— droughts or floods
— tropical cyclones or tornadoes (neither the magnitude nor frequency.)
— snowfall or precipitation
— damage to coral reefs
You may think that the science supports these things, but the science does not. Many of these are theories. (You can tell this when articles write, “some scientists believe … .”) Theories aren’t facts, nor are they science. The science has had a difficult time confirming these theories, because the climate is a lot more robust than what you may think.
However, what has happened is that many scientists have added “climate change” so that they can receive funding for their research. If you want to study coral reef degradation due to fertilizer runoff, you won’t get the funding. However, if you want to study coral reef degradation due to climate change and fertilizer runoff, then you have funding.
Are you “accepting the science” or are you one of those deniers?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heat_wave
“Peer-reviewed analysis places the European death toll at more than 70,000”
(scientific research linked to).
In the UK there have been multiple occasions since 2000 on which substantial damage was caused by storms/floods which are the result of local climate change.
“In the UK there have been multiple occasions since 2000 on which substantial damage was caused by storms/floods which are the result of local climate change”
AKA “Weather”.
Griff — that 70,000 deaths comes from one heat wave, thirteen years ago. The UK alone has 25,000 excess deaths due to cold every year (with a peak of 40-50,000 during cold snaps.)
The comparison has been studied and reported on in Lancet — there are 20x as many deaths from cold than from heat. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2814%2962114-0/abstract
“Cold weather kills 20 times as many people as hot weather, according to an international study analyzing over 74 million deaths in 384 locations across 13 countries. The findings also reveal that deaths due to moderately hot or cold weather substantially exceed those resulting from extreme heat waves or cold spells.” quote from Science Daily https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150520193831.htm
“A report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) analyzing deaths from U.S. weather events between 2006 and 2010 finds cold weather was responsible for the majority of weather related fatalities. The conclusion challenges a widely-held view that heat is the top weather-related killer. ” {Note: the CDC used a different standard of what was considered a cold weather vs. hot weather death, but the relative comparison is the same.} https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/08/04/cold-kills-more-than-heat-cdc-says-but-researchers-caution-it-depends/
In other words, you are selectively analyzing data to support your conclusion rather than studying the actual science to understand.
As far as the UK, you wrote, “In the UK there have been multiple occasions since 2000 on which substantial damage was caused by storms/floods which are the result of local climate change.”
I’ll try to ignore the oxymoron (“local climate change.”) — Your conclusion is not supported by data. Yes, people are killed and damage occurs due to natural catastrophes. In order to reach your conclusion, you assume these catastrophes are due to climate change. This is a false assumption. Natural disasters have always occurred — and there is little evidence to suggest that they are increasing as a result of climate change. That is the difference between “science” and “biased news coverage”.
lorcanbonda: “Are you “accepting the science” or are you one of those deniers?”
No, he’s paid to attempt to derail discussions that are critical of the practices of the likes of David Cameron’s father-in-law, Nick Clegg’s wife, Lord ‘Burger Boy’ Deben and Potato Ed Davies’ brother, ie the ‘Unreliables’ subsidy profiteers.
The world’s politicians voted on a plan to make government more powerful and themselves richer.
So much wasted effort replying to Griff. Clearly, the guy’s a confirmed knucklehead, with zero appetite for logical argument. There’s no empirical evidence for human induced “climate change’, Griff. It’s a money churning scam.
How about video conferencing day?
Got my vote!
+ 100
Until they invent 3D video hookers, in person conferences will remain the norm.
3D won’t cut it, they need holo decks.
“Tuesday, 15 November, Gender Day” – This must be where they fit in “eco-sexuality”. It’s all just eco-insanity anyway, with the patina of “science” painted on, with the ultimate goal of World Government. 1984, here we come.
So promoting sex change operations is one of the planks of their plans to save the world ?
I suppose if they can convince enough people to be neutered, it could help curve population growth. Just don’t ask how society will cope with no youth to pay back a life time of pension and health contributions people have been paying.
Greg, how about answering Kamikazidave’s questions?
I have been looking for answers for about ten years.
And of course that should be addressed to Griff.
Apologies to Greg.
Those who agree to be neutered, probably wouldn’t have had children in the first place.
OldSeaDog, what you are experiencing is the impact of a negative IQ, he sucks the intelligence out of anyone who gets too close.
The UN is an organization of the bureaucrats by the bureaucrats and for the buraucrats and these guys talk in bureaucratese that no normal sane individual will understand. When nationally determined intended contributions come into force they will force you to do what you intend to do.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2794991
Yes, the UN are the bureaucrats that lesser, wannabe-uber (not the taxi company) bureaucrats look up to and wish to become. It’s all very noble, of course.
It is a good thing that Marrakech is a fun town …
Totally agree except for this:
“When nationally determined intended contributions come into force they will force you to do what you intend to do” . I’d say: they will force you to do what THEY intend you to do
Scan down thru the titles at https://seors.unfccc.int/seors/reports/events_list.html?session_id=COP22
OMG the thickness of the bureaucracy required, it boggles the mind, and how they expect all these countries to just stop using carbon and get religion, it is weird to ponder the UN expectations.
And Obama signed the agreement – without the consent of the Congress – and got away with it.
Unbelievable.
The POTUS can sign anything he wants. If anyone expects any international agreement to be binding on the US, it had best be a treaty, and be reviewed and approved by the US Senate.
If / when it’s not approved, there’ll be calls to action for marches in the street, agitation and mob action of course. To SaveThePlanet™, of course, not as a childish reaction to and punishment for those evil people who just refuse to go along like good little comrades.
PiperPaul-
The Paris Agreement was never submitted to the Senate for their “advice and consent”, so the Senate has’t “not approved” it. And he never will submit it to the Senate, since even he agrees that it isn’t a treaty, and is non-binding. But he, the MSM and the proponents of CAGW / CC will all act as if we must meet our pledges.
One of the things we’ve heard about (over and over again) is that the Republicans in the Congress just won’t work with the President – they are being obstructionists. Well, I’ve seen no evidence of the President working with the Republicans in Congress – he’s been the obstructionist, too. But the MSM publishes one perspective, and ignores the other, as the POTUS can do no wrong.
Engineer Jim, re the 11:00am post below-
“But he, the MSM and the proponents of CAGW / CC will all act as if we must meet our pledges.”
Only the president made or signed any pledges to the UN. No one else has. It will be interesting to see how he manages to keep them once he’s out of office. Likely he has a UN job waiting, all dressed up, just for him so he can not keep even more pledges.
It took awhile to find this, but this BINGO thing might be the most interesting and useful set of activities. Okay, it is the UN, so likely not.
BINGO = Business Industry Non-Government Organizations
Business and investment solutions for a low-carbon and resilient economy
Ah, thanks, I had assumed it was a new way of allocating the fortunes being amassed in the green fund.
to fat ladies : 88 ….
BiNGO !
The Changists need to be gifted with low-carbon bodies. Puddles of mud?
The headline in my local paper said the agreement was now “international law.” That made me laugh. Then the article said implementation of the “law” was entirely voluntary. That kid law is not really a law, it is simply a PR stunt.
Sorry, “kind of law.”
“kid law” works. It is pretty juvenile.
I’ve decided to not obey a law today, I think maybe thermodynamics. The Klimate Krazies should do so too. I suggest they start with the law of gravity and jump off something tall.
“jump off something tall.”
Wouldn’t work.. There is enough CO2 now, that they would land on the blanket.
CO2 has made the atmosphere so thick that terminal velocity is down to 10mph, or something.
Well, Obama treats our Constitution and laws as “voluntary,” so it makes sense that some of our barely educated, leftist media types might conflate international law with a voluntary agreement. Was it the White Rabbit that said words mean what he says they mean?
“Was it the White Rabbit that said words mean what he says they mean?”
The Red Queen in fact.
Here’s a beauty from their list:
The Arts as an Ally for Inspiring Climate Action
Marda Kirn, Director of EcoArts Connections will present examples and results demonstrating how the arts have worked in collaboration with science and other fields to spark attitudinal and behavioral shifts and make climate change and sustainability personal, visceral, and actionable.
Wow, really proactive artists, how cool ! Love the ” attitudinal” sounds really intellectual, like.
Here’s an example:
Supposed to be a horse. What’s happened to its back legs? I could run one of these up in the back yard right now, instead of using the stuff as firestarter. On the other hand, I suspect the dog would decide to kill it.
Martin, I have actually seen horses look like that. They mostly live in “pastures” of “Back to the Earth” types,
Just go on the net and enter : Sick/ sad / farm horses news stories and read the histories.
“3. Action for Climate Empowerment ”
After reading the paragraph this entry would be more properly titled
“3. Action for Climate Indoctrination”
Whenever they use the word “empowerment”, it’s empowerment for them, not for you.
I bet they will be selling lots of these…
“Neiman Marcus sells out of controversial $66 collard greens side dish”
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/11/04/neiman-marcus-sells-out-66-collard-greens-platter/
Nuts….
“These momentous agreements must succeed together and require unprecedented scale and depth of universal and concerted action involving all governments, local and regional authorities, business and investment actors at all levels and in all countries.”
And then along comes Trump. It’s going to get good if Trump is elected. The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry. The UN’s best laid CAGW plans may be going awry in the near future.
If Trump is elected president and cuts off UN funding for climate change, as he says he will, then we are going to get a real good public airing of this CAGW debate.
The Alarmists will certainly challenge Trump, and Trump will fire back with the facts, and everyone in the world will be aware of this debate.
A good place for Trump to start to push back on the Alarmists is to tell them to “prove” their case. Show us the proof. And, of course, they have no proof, which ought to be pretty apparent to any objective observer.
The Alarmists are going to squeal like you won’t believe if Trump wins election. I’m looking forward to it. 🙂
I also do not think that the whole world will be against Trump when he opts out of the UN’s CAGW dishonesty. On the contrary, I think Trump’s stance will encourage others around the world to question their own postions.
The Guardian has become completely delusional …
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/18/trump-wont-be-able-to-derail-paris-climate-deal-says-senior-us-official
UN Climate Talks by Josh (Priceless, the madness and pathos of the cult of CAGW)
The idiotic cult of CAGW’s gig is completely dependent on the fact that the planet has gotten 0.7C degrees warmer in the last 150 years. It is a fact that the paleo cyclic climate changes correlate with solar cycle changes. What is missing is a scientific explanation as to how and why the sun cyclically changes to cause cyclic warming and cooling.
Observations trump propaganda.
The solar and earth observations continue to support the assertion that the solar cycle has been interrupted which is a big deal. If the past is a guide to the future, the planet will significantly cool (more than 0.7C).
http://notrickszone.com/2016/11/04/cold-october-n-hemisphere-snow-cover-reaches-near-record-high-record-snow-in-siberia/
http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2016/anomnight.11.3.2016.gif
And of course, you will not see this reported anywhere on Liberally Corrupted News Channels …
You will…once it has been linked to climate change. We’re already getting doses of it for the northeastern US. It is now consistent with global warming theory for the northeastern US to get increases in snowfall…but only for the next few-to-several decades. After that, it starts disappearing.
“The solar and earth observations continue to support the assertion that the solar cycle has been interrupted which is a big deal. If the past is a guide to the future, the planet will significantly cool (more than 0.7C).”
That’s not what one of the world’s leading authorities on solar science thinks, and I’d sooner take his science than that of Notrickszone’s….
“lsvalgaard August 15, 2016 at 9:51 am
> overwhelm the reduction in energy
The reduction is minuscule and would, if it even happened, reduce temperatures by less than a tenth of the degree. Hardly a ‘big chill’.”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/08/15/big-chill-substantial-cooling-predicted-within-the-next-few-years/
And today my local paper published an article claiming a 33% chance of below average winter, a 33% chance of an average winter, and a 33% chance of an above average winter.
For anybody who didn’t catch the Marrakesh Express reference:
Gee pop they must be pretty young!
Yup, just like me. Too bad they never found the middle ground and stay left-leaners.
Exhibit A (hope it’s carbon neutral and organically farmed)
Comin’ into Los Angeles
Bringin’ in a couple of keys
Don’t touch my bags if you please mister customs man
Such a pity that according to the Useless Nonentity’s own global survey of reasons for concern covering 9,731,756 respondents worldwide, “Action taken on climate change” comes flat last, sixteenth out of sixteen categories.
http://data.myworld2015.org/
Seems the vast majority of the inhabitants of the planet are not as easily fooled as ‘You-Know-Who’ and his Guardianista bedwetter cronies.
Tonight, our rebellious UK is against ‘cutting carbon’. It’s Bonfire Night (Guy Fawkes Night).
Lots of Fireworks. Huge carefully constructed piles of old discarded timber and garden debris stacked as high as possible and set alight. Everywhere. The straw-filled ‘guy’ on top of the inferno – whoosh! (Some say they’ve named this year’s guy Gina).
Result.
The PA enters into forceless force…
Despite all the blather and lofty goals, no word is mentioned about penalties for countries that fail to meet their targets. So if they don’t, they can just shrug their shoulders and promise (maybe) to try better next time—and the next, etc. All this babble above is designed to downplay this fact. Meanwhile since global polls show consumers consider combating climate change strictly low priority, they won’t take the measures necessary to reduce emissions nor do they care whether the Paris agreement achieves anything.
Partying Parasites
Yes. A parody written by parasites.
+ many Bob.
After we stabilize the climate, we can use the same approach to eliminate global hunger and establish world peace (aka whirled peas). We probably should have started with these in order to prove the concept.
The UK climate change legislation can all go down the pan in it’s first paragraph if…
(a) if it appears to the Secretary of State that there have been significant developments in
(i) scientific knowledge about climate change, or
A house of cards..
http://www.euronews.com/2016/11/03/world-s-largest-oasis-threatened-by-climate-change
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