California's drought tolerant landscaping may make heat waves worse

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Hidden, local climate impacts of drought-friendly vegetation

New research by USC Viterbi researchers explores the climate impact of drought vegetation efforts

To address the recent drought in California, policymakers have created incentives for homeowners to replace existing lawns with drought tolerant vegetation. However, new research from George Ban-Weiss, an assistant professor in the Astani Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the USC Viterbi School of Engineering, has found that these efforts might have some hidden consequences on local climate.

Ban-Weiss and post-doctoral scholar Pouya Vahmani used a model of the Los Angeles basin to investigate the climate impacts of widespread adoption of drought tolerant vegetation. Their findings, put forth in the article “Climatic Consequences of Adopting Drought Tolerant Vegetation over Los Angeles as a Response to the California Drought” in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, indicate that in fact, if all lawns were replaced with drought tolerant vegetation, that Angelenos could expect an average daytime warming of 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit due largely to decreased evaporative cooling, as irrigation is stopped. For the hottest regions of the Los Angeles basin, such as the inland empire and San Fernando valley, the researchers predict a daytime increase in temperature of 3.4 degrees Fahrenheit. Such temperature increases could exacerbate heatwaves, increase photochemical smog production, and increase air conditioning energy use.

However, one effect of widespread planting of drought tolerant vegetation– which the researchers believe could counteract these higher daytime temperatures– is an even greater decrease in nighttime temperatures. The researchers forecast that the average nighttime temperature decrease could be as much as 6 degrees Fahrenheit. Lower nighttime temperatures are important for preventing adverse human health consequences like heat stroke or even death during heat waves, says Ban-Weiss. People, especially vulnerable populations like the elderly, need temperatures to reduce sufficiently at night to allow their bodies to recover from high daytime temperatures and prevent heat-related illness.

“Our interest in this topic was initially piqued because we hypothesized that the reductions in irrigation associated with adopting drought-tolerant vegetation would cause temperature increases,” says Ban-Weiss. “We were surprised to find the reduced temperature signal at nighttime. But this actually has a simple physical explanation, since reducing soil moisture decreases upward heat fluxes from the sub-surface to the surface at night, subsequently reducing surface temperatures.”

“Our research highlights how water and climate are intimately coupled,” says Ban-Weiss. “You can’t change one without effecting the other.”

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August 6, 2016 7:42 am

No apparent reason given why they can’t call it “desert vegetation.”

Pop Piasa
Reply to  jamesbbkk
August 6, 2016 11:24 am

What happens to the nursery stock they shipped from Phoenix to S.C. when the weather swings back to monsoon and washing rains? Oops! “We are once again stocking local species” Cha-ching!

george e. smith
Reply to  jamesbbkk
August 6, 2016 12:43 pm

Hey if you turn your front lawn into a desert by planting rocks in place of grass, you probably won’t get dew on them in the morning.
We have plenty of desert. Don’t need to plant any more. Might as well have a Monsanto Astroturf Lawn.
g

Pop Piasa
Reply to  george e. smith
August 6, 2016 12:54 pm

“Might as well have a Monsanto Astroturf Lawn.”
I knew a pipefitter in Wood River IL that did that, George.
RIP Larry Reynolds, The icon of Phil’s Tavern.

John Brisbin
Reply to  george e. smith
August 6, 2016 2:33 pm

Many are the Astroturf lawns being installed in San Jose,CA., though tasteful rock arrangements are more popular. My dog prefers the Astroturf particularly if butt-dragging seems indicated.

Greg.
Reply to  jamesbbkk
August 6, 2016 1:15 pm

The ‘apparent reason’ may be that it is hard to sell someone a “desert” for their garden, when their lawn has already turned into a desert. If you call it “drought resistant vegetation” in a state which has been having an extended drought, you may manage to make it look like a selling point.

Greg.
Reply to  Greg.
August 6, 2016 1:39 pm

What someone needs to come up with is biodegradable rocks . That way you need to come back every couple of years to buy some more.
Selling someone a box of rocks and a few cactii is a once only sale. Very bad business model. Where are these guys educated? This is not a ‘sustainable’ model, where are the ‘green’ jobs.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Greg.
August 6, 2016 1:47 pm

Biodegradable and GMO free, naturally fresh rocks should market nicely!

Hocus Locus
Reply to  Greg.
August 6, 2016 5:44 pm

“What someone needs to come up with is biodegradable rocks . That way you need to come back every couple of years to buy some more.”
We’re likely to see rocks with embedded “killer chips” in them, which will rock on for a predetermined span of time or rock cycles. These rocks will start blinking near end of rock-life, embarrassing you in front of the neighbors and generating a rock re-up reminder on your screen if you have downloaded and installed the 50 megabyte rock awareness app that also sets your homepage to Rock Search and installs the ‘Ask Toolbar’ again.
Every quirk of evolution for the last 30,000 years has been driven by the ‘Ask Toolbar’ and its need to have a host species that will continually install it.

Reply to  Greg.
August 7, 2016 1:42 am

It’s called an extended drought nowadays when a population stops watering a desert, is it? I’ll have to think about the slogans to market that.

Richard G
Reply to  Greg.
August 7, 2016 11:39 pm

40 years ago in California they were selling Pet Rocks. I’m sure someone just found all the unsold inventory and decided to now sell them by the box to clear them all out.

MarkW
Reply to  Greg.
August 8, 2016 6:55 am

What about pet rocks?

LamontT
August 6, 2016 7:51 am

I had wondered about the local effect of those hard scape drought tolerant landscapes. I figured it would make it warmer around the house that used it but this is interesting that it has a broader impact on the local microclimate.
And yes I’ve always know that man modifies the microclimate around his immediate area. I live up by Anthony and was very young when Lake Oroville was built. I remember how the general climate changed slightly with the filling of the lake. So I’ve always known that man generally could have some impact on the local climate. I question though that the change in microclimate around Lake Oroville impacts the climate of say Denver Colorado or St. Charles Missouri.

Mike barminski
Reply to  LamontT
August 6, 2016 8:05 am

Plant more trees…

Pop Piasa
Reply to  LamontT
August 6, 2016 12:00 pm

I can tell you from experience that the climate of St. Charles MO is more highly affected by what happens to the east a few miles in Ferg… Oh! The weather type climate… that has more to do with the river and the I-70 corridor on a microclimate scale. It’s interesting to watch rain form in MO along the I-70 corridor.

george e. smith
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 6, 2016 12:45 pm

Do they still mow the lawns short there, so you can see the Ozarks ??
g

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 6, 2016 1:12 pm

It’s the old wagon trail, as you may know. barely north of the Ozarks and comparatively high and flat. Eisenhower’s engineers had some common sense, even though the weather follows the same path.
St. Charles is now a thriving tourist and entertainment area, linked to Grafton, IL by a ferry on weekends for those who also want to enjoy the river bluff life. Sure would like to show anybody around who happens to be in the STL vicinity, Particularly our host and contributors.

george e. smith
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 6, 2016 6:21 pm

I know a couple of kids who were born in St Charles MO. Well they were kids once.
g

FTOP_T
August 6, 2016 8:02 am

It took complex modeling to figure out that arid climates (deserts) have greater temperature swings than moist (tropical) ones.
Strange how that “greenhouse gas” (water vapor) COOLS?!?
How much per year are these universities charging again?
Next their going to discover that water is wet. /sarc

Jay Hope
Reply to  FTOP_T
August 6, 2016 10:16 am

But doesn’t CO2 trap the heat? Why should it get cold at night? This is what my warmist ‘scientific’ friends tell me.

Greg.
Reply to  Jay Hope
August 6, 2016 1:31 pm

Curious the way they try to explain the cooler nights by less heat being able to come up from deeper in the ground. I had to read it several times to make sure that is was not a typo. saying the opposite of what it meant.
Less humid air at night mean MORE heat from the surface can escape into the night sky. This is why deserts are cold and I think this has been known for decades.

if all lawns were replaced with drought tolerant vegetation, that Angelenos could expect an average daytime warming of 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit

But that is 0.7 deg C, and we are already at 1.3 deg C of warming. That means fully 2 deg C in California and, as we all know, that is the “threashold” at which all hell breaks loose, the climates “dangerously” unstable and thermagedon begins.
It is sufficient to CAL to go unstable and it could trigger a global apocalypse.
WE MUST ACT NOW !

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Jay Hope
August 6, 2016 1:36 pm

Unfortunately for us at the gateway to the west, this summer moisture is adding to the temperature at night. Weather’s like Real Estate, timing and location are everything.

Reply to  Jay Hope
August 6, 2016 3:27 pm

Lower humidity means less dew condensing at night. When dew condenses, it releases heat, warming the ground, and the air near the ground. So when the humidity is lower, temperature drops faster at night.

george e. smith
Reply to  Jay Hope
August 6, 2016 6:39 pm

“””””….. When dew condenses, it releases heat, warming the ground, …..”””””
Better rethink that.
Water vapor DOES NOT condense until it has already gotten rid of ALL of the latent heat of evaporation. Presumably it reaches the dew point temperature before it reaches the surface so it will be at the (local) air temperature.
The ground may or may not be warmer than the air Temperature, but it would seem that the condensation substrate (ground or grass) must essentially be at the dew point Temperature before the vapor can condense.
I’d be really happy to read a peer reviewed paper and perhaps corroborating similar papers providing actual measured temperature of a surface that increases in temperature immediately after dew deposits.
Yes steam will burn you , but that is because it is at a temperature way above your skin temperature, so your skin is the heat sink which sucks out the latent heat to cool the steam down to where it might condense on you.
The steam is not in thermal equilibrium with the ambient air.
G

Latitude
August 6, 2016 8:05 am

good grief….climate science has been reduced to nit picking
Thanks a good thing…….

H.R.
August 6, 2016 8:15 am

1 if
4 coulds
1 might
1 surprised
1 predict (not project!)
1 finding of the obvious; “Our research highlights how water and climate are intimately coupled,” says Ban-Weiss.

August 6, 2016 8:17 am

Southern California is a natural desert.
http://users.humboldt.edu/ogayle/hist383/LosAngeles.html

James at 48
Reply to  Bobby Davis
August 8, 2016 11:03 am

Well, actually, the places most people live in in SoCal are all > 10 in / year. Most are in the 13 – 14 in / year arena, and some are even above that. Which leads to what one would expect – prairie, oak savanna, chaparral and coast sage scrub. Not desert.

Retired Kit P
Reply to  James at 48
August 8, 2016 11:22 am

James you are correct and also too nice. When I first moved to a semi-arid area, I was corrected many times before I stopped calling a desert.
Bobby is an idiot. Why? He did not read his own link which states there is a desert east of LA.

TonyL
August 6, 2016 8:19 am

Nothing says
Get Off My Lawn
like a bunch of spiny cactus plants.

H.R.
Reply to  TonyL
August 6, 2016 8:26 am

Raising scorpions as a hobby is a bonus, TonyL.
Heck! You don’t really need the scorpions, just a sign with “BEWARE OF THE SCORPIONS.”

Marcus
Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2016 8:48 am

…Your afraid of a rock band from Germany ?

RayG
Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2016 11:40 am

Scorpions, small stuff. Go for the real thing:
Mojave Rattlesnake
Sidewinder
Speckled Rattlesnake
Western Diamondback Rattlesnake

TonyL
Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2016 11:50 am

You two guys are just brutal on the gardeners.

Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2016 12:56 pm

Tarantulas. When I was a kid we lived in Taft (just N. of LA), my dad worked for Standard Oil’s communications division, microwave stuff. Anyway, we’d hunt tarantulas under our front porches in the morning, then in the afternoon we’d all get together in some shady place and hold tarantula wars.
Not sure scorpions would have kept us out of your front yard. Might have done the exact opposite. “Unintended Consequences”.

Reply to  H.R.
August 6, 2016 1:41 pm

“You don’t really need the scorpions, just a sign with “BEWARE OF THE SCORPIONS.””
Funny that someone else immediately thoughts of rattlesnakes, because I was wondering how a ” Please Do Not Feed The Rattlesnakes!” sign would work out for keeping people off your poppity?
Here in Florida, I am not sure how successfully the “Do Not Feed Alligators” signs work for keeping people from feeding them, but I bet it keeps people out of the water better than a “No Swimming” sign would.

george e. smith
Reply to  TonyL
August 6, 2016 12:47 pm

I recommend Chollas. Those things are hell. You step on them and it costs you a brand new pair of sneakers
g

Pop Piasa
Reply to  george e. smith
August 7, 2016 6:40 pm

I’m with George on that one, too. Cholla can pierce boot soles a sidewinder would just glance off of.

Gamecock
Reply to  TonyL
August 7, 2016 3:37 am

Plant ISIS flags in your yard (and stop paying $49 a month for a security system). Your yard will be watched 24 X 7 by local, state, and federal police.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Gamecock
August 7, 2016 6:50 pm

Similar tactic to widowered seniors whose pensions were eliminated deliberately committing non-violent federal crimes to receive free retirement and healthcare in a minimum security federal prison.

Robert W Turner
August 6, 2016 8:20 am

Get on Google Earth and take a look at what percent of the ground surface in LA is irrigated lawn. With the roads, sidewalks, roofs, non-irrigated lawns, and tree canopy, there is probably less than 5% irrigated lawn cover. There appears to be far more irrigated lawn in the acres of golf courses and baseball fields than there is private irrigated lawns. I doubt it would make as much of a difference as the model shows.
Besides, what’s the real difference between 82 F with a dew point of 55 F and 85 F with a dew point of 50 F?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Robert W Turner
August 6, 2016 11:10 am

RWT,
Astroturf?

dmacleo
Reply to  Robert W Turner
August 6, 2016 1:23 pm

3 degrees F….. 🙂

David Chappell
Reply to  Robert W Turner
August 6, 2016 2:58 pm

Next up, drought-resistant golf courses? One huge bunker…

Felflames
Reply to  David Chappell
August 6, 2016 6:50 pm

Sand course.
Several places in Australia have them.
The “greens” are just smoothed sand.

August 6, 2016 8:22 am

Deserts have a greater daytime to night time temperature fluctuation? Less evaporation might might mean less rain? Without water the Imperial Valley would not be productive agricultural land? Oh the humanity!

Erik Magnuson
Reply to  fossilsage
August 6, 2016 11:10 am

I think “Oh the humidity!” would be more appropriate.

Ernest Bush
August 6, 2016 8:25 am

At my house we had already noticed the night time drop in temperatures as we are actually doing more rock scape and fewer plantings. In our case the reason for switching is easy to figure. We are getting older and want to expend physical efforts in the Western outdoors elsewhere.
As far as the impact of higher daytime temperatures goes if an increase is followed by by a drop in relative humidity, the best thing to do for older people is add shade. Outdoor evaporative cooling and misters can lower temperatures amazingly and make being outside in 110 degree weather tolerable to pleasant.
I worked outside on the Yuma County, AZ, desert year round for 20 years before retirement. I always wore 100 percent cotton clothing with long sleeves and carried a spray bottle of water. Simply spraying down my clothes dropped my body temperature, sometimes making my clothes feel chilled against the skin at 115 degrees. Getting out of a lukewarm summer swimming pool here produces instant chill in the early evening.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Ernest Bush
August 6, 2016 12:43 pm

This might be a good time to buy stock in one of the companies providing misting systems.
http://www.front-porch-ideas-and-more.com/outdoor-mister.html
Or sell the stock on the assumption misters will be banned.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Ernest Bush
August 6, 2016 3:24 pm

Ernest says, and I stress,
“…and carried a spray bottle of water”
Even just moistening one’s shoulders when wearing a T-shirt can provide significant relief in dry/hot environments, I’ve found. Evaporation is your friend ; )

Alan McIntire
August 6, 2016 8:40 am

John Christy addressed this years ago.
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/JCLI3627.1
Thanks to irrigation, and transpiration in plants, more plants result in warmer nights and less warm days, with an overall net warming. Fewer plants, and no irrigation, result in hotter days and cooler nights with a net cooling.

Marcus
Reply to  Alan McIntire
August 6, 2016 9:00 am

..That is why, in a desert, is it extremely hot during the day and very cold at night !

Chad Jessup
Reply to  Alan McIntire
August 6, 2016 9:20 am

Exactly. Both cited studies, Christy and USC, may be recent news to many people, but the irrigation affect has been noticed by farmers/ranchers in these parts (NE Cal) for a couple of generations.
I enjoyed reading both studies, because they provide results that correspond with known scientific principles.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Alan McIntire
August 6, 2016 11:15 am

AM,
This gets back to a point I raised earlier. What role does agricultural irrigation, and the expansion of agriculture into arid and marginal semi-arid regions, play in the apparent warming of the land surface?

katio1505
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 6, 2016 2:56 pm

Has Pielke Sr’s work been forgotten already?

tommyterroir
August 6, 2016 8:40 am

Heat waves may be worse, but daily living is easier and more economical when you can cool down a house with a swamp cooler during the day and open the windows at night.

Reply to  tommyterroir
August 6, 2016 9:11 am

Agreed.

Marcus
August 6, 2016 8:47 am

..I always find it amazing that a state with 3,427 miles of Tidal Shoreline could possibly ever have a continuous drought…Desalination plants are a lot cheaper than destroying your economy and the airborne wildlife…It is a desert FFS..They should have built many during the last drought…Even the Romans knew how to effectively use Aqua ducts ….

David in Cal
August 6, 2016 8:47 am

Living in Silicon Valley, I see a few neighbors who have switched to desert vegetation. Also, a few who save even more water by switching to Astro-turf. But, the idea of 100% switching seems far-fetched. I suspect that the real-world inpact of a limited number of lawn conversions would be negligible.
Meanwhile, many grass lawns are brown, due to water restrictions. I wonder how under-watering lawns affects the temperature. It’s a bigger issue than switching to desert flora, because there are far more under-watered lawns.
Note that if everyone did switch to desert or Astro-turf, the city could probably get more daytime cooling by spraying lots of water into the air and letting it evaporate. Of course, nobody would do this, since the area has barely enough water for the current population.
I dislike the article, because it provides and excuse not to take steps to save water.

Steve Fraser
Reply to  David in Cal
August 6, 2016 12:50 pm

Huh? It describes some steps with which to save water!

Retired Kit P
Reply to  David in Cal
August 6, 2016 1:00 pm

“Living in Silicon Valley ….”
Do you mean the Santa Clara Valley? Idiot!
I noticed that people that live someplace described by political terms rather than physical are clueless about their environment.
I have lived in Santa Clara Valley when it resembled the writing of Jack London. As an adult I was stationed in the Bay Area, LA (actually Long Beach), San Diego (Point Loma).
It may be just a coincidence that a navy guy was there but I think it would it had something to with the Pacific Ocean.
Could it be the Pacific Ocean had major effect on the climate in those places?
Here is the interesting thing about places with mild climates. They do not cope very well with a few extreme days as well places where very hot and very cold are normal. It is not landscaping that makes things worse but idiots. Especially when the permeate our education system.

FJ Shepherd
August 6, 2016 8:49 am

Geeze, what is the problem? Now they won’t have to “adjust” the temperature data as much in LA if folks start using more drought tolerant vegetation.

Latitude
Reply to  FJ Shepherd
August 6, 2016 9:09 am

exactly…they keep proving UHI is a whole lot bigger than “adjustments”

Reply to  Latitude
August 6, 2016 9:26 am

Latitude: Indeed

TonyL
August 6, 2016 9:14 am

I wonder what is the best way to save the planet, always the topic in CA.
You could run fossil fueled, of nuclear powered A/C full power to provide the required cooling.
OR you could invest some resources into a reservoir system and utilize evaporative cooling on a personal, local, and municipal scale. This seems like a very environmental way to cut energy consumption.
You can save the water, but it costs you energy to do so. Then the saved water just gets dumped into the ocean, anyway.

August 6, 2016 9:21 am

I have referred to this picture before, but this shows London in terms of heat and if you know the area or study a map a lot of features are well defined.comment image
Dulwich and Sydenham Hill Golf Club is notable in that it is cooler than surrounding cricket pitches and Dulwich Park. It is just above the dark blue of Dulwich Woods 1/5 up from bottom centre (see map link below). The golf course will be watered. All the grass areas in all the London parks show up as hot as these are not watered and the sun has direct access to the dry ground. Also of note is the dark woods and river Thames are cooler than the lighter short grass which will turn yellow or white after a prolonged dry spell.
Here is the Google Map link showing Dulwich Woods
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Upper+Sydenham,+London/@51.4306725,-0.0799428,2841m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4876015ff6c4e289:0x62c2698e4e438bdf!8m2!3d51.43066!4d-0.071188

FTOP_T
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 6, 2016 10:04 am

Thanks for further justification of my hobby — golf. Good to know I am defending the world from global warming, and yes, I usually walk vs. riding in a cart.

James at 48
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 8, 2016 11:15 am

Heathrow is plainly visible as a more or less rectangular zone (and in contrast with the open space and ponds to its West). Surprisingly (at least to me) it seems the buildings define the foot print more than the runways, although perhaps what I’m seeing are the various car parks around the perimeter and the runways, buildings and runways simply bleed together.

Marcus
August 6, 2016 9:44 am

…Back when I was still in High School in Northern Canada ( many, many moons ago ), my teacher had us do “thought” projects on whatever we thought would help the poor in Africa..(lots of ads on TV asking for money at that time)…I suck at writing essays or even putting my thoughts to words, so I decided I would use schematic diagrams to show my “Thought” project….The general idea was to dig a giant hole in the desert sand in the edge of the desert ( 400 ft. deep) and create a new inland sea (reservoir) by connecting it to the Ocean by pipelines…My logic at the time, was that the problem with a desert was that it lacked water.. I assumed that extreme evaporation would force pure water into the atmosphere, thus, creating rain clouds in whatever area the winds sent it to, thus increasing the amount of plants in the area. ( location location, location)…As a byproduct for today, this “thought” project would also lower the supposed sea level rise…by transferring the “excess” ocean water to the atmosphere..At the time I thought it made sense, …I got an F in that class for my effort !!
Maybe a real Geoengineering expert could make it work ?

Cynthia Maher
Reply to  Marcus
August 7, 2016 11:52 am

By-product could be collecting salt.

LarryD
Reply to  Marcus
August 7, 2016 8:27 pm

I have this suspicion that the reason you got an “F” wasn’t because the teacher thought it wouldn’t work, but because wasn’t the kind of “solution” they were looking for. Not Politically Correct, in other words.
As Instapundit is fond of saying “Insufficient opportunities for graft.”

Michael J. Dunn
Reply to  Marcus
August 8, 2016 1:53 pm

You were on the right track. It’s been thought of. The Qattara Depression in Egypt “has been studied for its potential to generate hydroelectricity.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression) Basic idea would be as you described. Since there would be water loss by evaporation, there would be a constant inflow of water from the Mediterranean Sea.

jorgekafkazar
August 6, 2016 9:54 am

1.3 degrees? WE’RE GONNA DIE! WE’RE GONNA DIE!

Reasonable Skeptic
August 6, 2016 9:55 am

So if I get this right, this policy could increase daily variation in temperatures by up to 9.4 def F.
Yeah right!

commieBob
August 6, 2016 10:11 am

Angelenos could expect an average daytime warming of 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit … For the hottest regions … the researchers predict a daytime increase in temperature of 3.4 degrees Fahrenheit. Such temperature increases could … increase air conditioning energy use.
… The researchers forecast that the average nighttime temperature decrease could be as much as 6 degrees Fahrenheit.

I grew up in a very dry climate without airconditioning. We would open the doors and windows at night and close everything up during the day. The high temperatures in July would be above a hundred for a week or two but the night time temperatures would be down in the sixties.
If the night time temperature is going down more than the day time temperature is going up, there is no need for the airconditioning to increase. Burt Rutan has demonstrated that, even in the Mojave, you can build a house that doesn’t need air conditioning.

Reply to  commieBob
August 6, 2016 5:17 pm

Living in hot climates without air conditioning is possible (sometimes at least 110F during the day here); I haven’t used mine for year now, However, I’ve often noticed the surrounding houses all running air conditioners late at night (easily heard with my windows open) when outdoors has cooled to marvelous air. I don’t think many people even notice what goes on outside their walls.

LarryD
Reply to  AndyHce
August 7, 2016 8:34 pm

Depends on how well your house can turn over the air at night. If your windows don’t face the night-time breezes, or another structure blocks them, then you need an attic fan. Open the windows, run the fan to push air up into the attic and out, drawing outside air in. Maybe thirty minutes, then you’re done.

Peter
Reply to  AndyHce
August 8, 2016 6:27 am

Born in central Europe and living few years in California I can tell difference. What is making weather unpleasant is humidity. With dry air ~20% RH man can withstand temperatures up to 31C without problems. 43C in Death Valley (Or 43C in Egypt in desert) with 7-10% relative humidity sounds scary, but actually it is much better then 35C with 45% humidity in the summer in Europe. Together with hot nights, when temperatures are not dropping under 26C it is awful. You can have your window wide open, there is no exchange of air and hour or two after sunrise 4:00AM temperature is rocketing up.

Scott
August 6, 2016 10:39 am

Damned if you do and Damned if you don’t…

emsnews
August 6, 2016 10:46 am

Grew up in Southern Arizona. Paved roads are hotter than H3ll. Lots of people put in gravel ‘lawns’ which are much hotter than the natural desert. Greasewood bushes cool things. People consider these to be ‘weeds’. Mesquite trees are great desert shade but people don’t like the huge oily seed pods, etc.
The natural desert floor isn’t anywhere near as hot and dry as rock/asphalt landscaping and then there are the hot roofs with shingles, etc. that are much hotter than natural landscaping!
And all this leads to hot cities caused by humans insisting on living in deserts.

Andrew Parker
August 6, 2016 10:47 am

Using subsurface drip irrigation systems can reduce water consumption of turf by 70 to 90 percent. It is not without its complications and it is more expensive than sprinklers, but if you really want turf and don’t have a lot of water, then it is a viable option.
Also, using wick irrigation for containers, trees and shrubs can substantially reduce water consumption and improve the health of the plants. The basic idea for both systems is to restrict water loss to transpiration.
Choosing drought tolerant trees and shrubs that shade the ground will keep the microclimate more comfortable. Use wick irrigation and water usage will be negligible.
I much prefer hot and dry to kind of hot and humid. High temperatures here have been 95 to 100, but the humidity has stayed at 10 percent or less (the downside is that when the humidity rises to 25 percent, it feels muggy). Lows have been upper 60’s to low 70’s. There is a lot of time to do outdoor activities before it gets too hot.

kramer
August 6, 2016 10:53 am

reductions in irrigation associated with adopting drought-tolerant vegetation would cause temperature increases,”
So, humans have helped cool temperatures? Sounds like another reason to adjust temperatures higher in the next revision…

Mike McMillan
August 6, 2016 11:10 am

Astroturf.

Roy Spencer
August 6, 2016 11:23 am

as someone who lives in a humid environment, I’d rather the solar energy go into sensible heat rather than latent heat. I hate humidity.

David Mills
Reply to  Roy Spencer
August 6, 2016 12:10 pm

You would not have liked my boyhood hometown of Galveston, Texas much then, even though it rarely hit 90F in the summer.

Greg.
Reply to  Roy Spencer
August 6, 2016 1:10 pm

Or even better sensible electricity which can be used to run and air-con 😉

Reply to  Roy Spencer
August 6, 2016 2:18 pm

Dr. Spencer, I’ve lived my whole life in SE Georgia. I hate the heat and humidity. I once read a biography of George Whitefield, missionary to the colony of Georgia in the 1700s. I remember his description of summers in GA. He said that all a man could do during the day was lie on the dirt floor, otherwise he would die.

rbabcock
August 6, 2016 12:24 pm

I suggest solar panels everywhere. It’s shady underneath and you are doing the Creator’s work.

Margaret Smith
August 6, 2016 12:46 pm

In the UK some years ago we were told we would need to grow drought-resistant plants and, shortly before the deluges began, one well-known gardener here turned a car park into such a garden. Don’t hear so much about that now…..

Zeke
August 6, 2016 1:19 pm

I miss driving through LA when the jacarandas are in bloom.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3160/2967327065_c84714fa9a_o.jpg

Zeke
August 6, 2016 1:58 pm

“Drought tolerant landscaping” sounds less mean than that the nitrous oxide emitted by lawns is a ghg.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/19/save-the-planet-from-ghgs-use-astroturf/
“Turfgrass lawns help remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere through photosynthesis and store it as organic carbon in soil, making them important “carbon sinks.” However, greenhouse gas emissions from fertilizer production, mowing, leaf blowing and other lawn management practices are four times greater than the amount of carbon stored by ornamental grass in parks, a UC Irvine study shows. These emissions include nitrous oxide released from soil after fertilization. Nitrous oxide is a greenhouse gas that’s 300 times more powerful than carbon dioxide, the Earth’s most problematic climate warmer.
“Lawns look great – they’re nice and green and healthy, and they’re photosynthesizing a lot of organic carbon. But the carbon-storing benefits of lawns are counteracted by fuel consumption,” said Amy Townsend-Small, Earth system science postdoctoral researcher and lead author of the study, forthcoming in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.”

Donald Kasper
Reply to  Zeke
August 6, 2016 7:44 pm

More babbling vomit to justify destroying the only CO2 sequestration that is known to actually work, by using gross estimates, which like models, produces the results Greenie fools want.

Zeke
August 6, 2016 2:28 pm

Believe me, the Californians have been doing this for a couple of centuries and have some of the most beautiful plants and trees, which grow almost totally effortlessly, in every yard in the LA basin.
There are pomegranates and bougainvilleas, jacarandas, citrus, and anyone there can stick a rose branch in the ground and it will take root. They are very fond of small evergreen hedges with agapanthus. For ground covers, the ice flower plant can grow next to freeways in the highest temps (it’s a succulent):
http://cf.ltkcdn.net/garden/images/std/182046-425×319-ice-plant-groundcover.jpg
and with a little shade, the baby’s tears in LA make an easy filler between stones.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/gSIAAOSwstxU5XiP/s-l400.jpg
I wouldn’t let the environmentalists in the government plant your property from their dried up, prickly little approved list. Don’t be too polite to tell them it looks nasty.comment image?w=780&h=440

Thomas Bakewell
August 6, 2016 2:34 pm

Greg, all rocks are biodegradable. The harder ones take longer for water and gravity to do their thing.

Zeke
August 6, 2016 2:41 pm

Believe me, the Californians have been doing this for a couple of centuries and have some of the most beautiful plants and trees, which grow almost totally effortlessly, in every yard in the LA basin.
There are pomegranates and bougainvilleas, jacarandas, citrus, and anyone there can stick a rose branch in the ground and it will take root. They are very fond of small evergreen hedges with agapanthus. For ground covers, the ice flower plant can grow next to freeways in the highest temps (it’s a succulent):
and with a little shade, the baby’s tears in LA make an easy filler between stones.
I wouldn’t let the environmentalists in the government save you from choices in the finest growing zone in the country, and plant your property from their dried up, prickly little approved list. And don’t be too polite to tell them it looks nasty.
Curb appeal and personal garden rooms are a very large part of a home’s value.
[Moderators, can you put me back on the white list? I am not that other guy (: ]

willhaas
Reply to  Zeke
August 7, 2016 3:08 am

Here in Southern California if gardens are not watered they will die back Most of what one sees in the suburbs and along the freeways is not natural. The truly natural vegetation in the LA basin has to be very drought tolerant to survive. For example the Ice Plant one sees growing in freeway landscaping is imported and requires substantial watering to keep it from dying back and disappearing altogether.

Johann Wundersamer
August 6, 2016 5:27 pm

That rebound topic again:
However, one effect of widespread planting of drought tolerant vegetation– which the researchers believe could counteract these higher daytime temperatures– is an even greater decrease in nighttime temperatures.
Renewable resilient. tsomb’c.

BFL
August 6, 2016 5:47 pm

Greater net cooling found…time to relocate the thermometers….

Grey Lensman
August 6, 2016 7:03 pm

Just look at Dubai over the last 30 years. The more trees and grass they plant, the greener it gets and wetter. thus California needs to plant much more grass and trees. Dubai also ensures they have enough water for it as well now aided by wetter climate.

Donald Kasper
August 6, 2016 7:41 pm

California has AB32 a carbon tax scheme to lower CO2 emissions. The flip side is CO2 sequestration. Along this second front, I got a letter to cut my water use 90%. So I water enough to keep the shrubs and let the lawn die. So did most of Californians. I have estimated my biomass dumping which is easy to do because we have separate containers in the state for lawn clipping trash. Based on my property size, extrapolated to the sizes of CA central valley and coastal major cities, the demand to destroy our landscaping I estimate just destroyed 20% of the state’s carbon sequestration. That is how CO2 policy works in California. From junk bond status to investment grade right after AB32 income started to roll in, then kill you lawns to keep 20% more CO2 in the atmosphere, because hey, who really cares. And so it goes. Welcome to a Democratic Party state.
In the meantime, Greenies are running around calling lawns evil. Okay they never heard of sequestration with plants, the only method that actually works. Also, they obviously don’t have carpenter ants. The only thing that keeps them out is grass. You cannot afford enough pesticide, and no, it doesn’t work anyway. Lawns keep down dust here, which in Lancaster, CA high desert, is fine loam. This is very readily airborne. And of course, it keeps the properties cooler, which should have an effect on airconditioning use. Bad, evil lawns. We need something high tech like more research on olivine for sequestration and then build billion dollar chemical plants to run them because having lawns in just so low tech, you know, passe.

Dr. Strangelove
August 6, 2016 8:45 pm

Just put white sand in your lawn. It will reflect sunlight and cool the lawn and you don’t have to water the invisible plants
http://www.intoourelement.com/wp-content/uploads/galleries/post-2232/full/JKW_4468web%20White%20Sand%20Dunes.jpg

August 6, 2016 10:00 pm

An article displaying the UHI effect was in the South Australian newspaper last week
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/heat-mapping-pinpoints-hot-spots-where-the-pavement-reaches-temperatures-of-up-to-70c/news-story/6999b98107fef516f7f4abb57c2dd12f
Notable comments from the link:

TEMPERATURES across Adelaide on a typical hot day can vary from 7C to 70C

– the main Adelaide temperature gauge is at Kent Town, close to the city centre so surrounded by areas such as they show with a huge temperature range. Heavy ‘adjustments’ needed to get the ‘official’ temp.

Key results included:
■ LOWEST temperatures were confined to coastal and inland water bodies.
■ VEGETATED and irrigated reserves were also relatively cool.
■ AGRICULTURAL fields with dry stubble or exposed soil tended to be warm to hot.
■ HOT spots were common around commercial centres.

Pretty obvious, I would have thought but not ‘official’ until someone gets a grant to study it

Scottish Sceptic
August 7, 2016 12:31 am

Here in Scotland we have a simple solution to the problem of garden lawns: we grow moss and call it a “lawn”.

willhaas
August 7, 2016 2:49 am

Drought tolerant vegetation is the norm for pre human Southern California. Much of Southern California is semi arid to semi desert. Very green vegetation in winter turns brown and dry in Spring as the rains disappear. It is Mankind that has made Southern California a much wetter place then it would be naturally. Is trying to revert a place back to its natural state an environmental mistake?

Tom in Florida
August 7, 2016 6:55 am

As everyone in Florida knows, it’s not the heat, it’s the humidity!
Years ago I took out all the grass around my house and replaced it with cypress mulch. I added in a variety of natural Florida plants that, once established, do not need much water. Because they are native to Florida they can also handle times of heavy rains. So it should not be so much
“desert” plants but rather plants that are native to the area, plants that are adapted to the local climate of the area.

Grey Lensman
August 7, 2016 8:51 am

But they dont do that in Dubai and its flourishing, getting wetter and greener.

August 7, 2016 12:59 pm

Here in the Texas Panhandle the ranchers know how to mitigate a drought. Polyculture forage will encourage deep roots and roots at various levels, improving the ability of the soil to retain moisture even during drought, and will provide a local ecology that will support more biodiversity, from primary plants to pollinators to insects to foraging small animals. It will also prevent overheating of the soil.

James at 48
August 8, 2016 10:59 am

Some people / even landscapers who should know better, have a really flawed concept of drought tolerant. The lazy persons version is doing some crushed rock with a few low water plants (like the photo). That’s lame. Drought tolerant does not need to mean very little ground cover. There are all kinds of covers that are drought tolerant. So everything is still nice and green but not as thirsty as a blue grass lawn. There are even drought tolerant lawns.

Zeke
August 8, 2016 12:52 pm

willhaas August 7, 2016 at 3:08 am
Here in Southern California if gardens are not watered they will die back Most of what one sees in the suburbs and along the freeways is not natural. The truly natural vegetation in the LA basin has to be very drought tolerant to survive. For example the Ice Plant one sees growing in freeway landscaping is imported and requires substantial watering to keep it from dying back and disappearing altogether.

So the standard is natural then?
I don’t think covering your property with row covers/landscape fabric–a petroleum product–is natural.
For a trifling investment of water, these plants perform many natural uses.
1. drainage
2. run off control
3. green spaces
4. wind breaks
5. generation of oxygen, fresh air in LA
6. shade and ornament
7. edible landscaping
8. places for kids to play outside
9. increased home value
Now it is true that lawns take some water but there are flash floods in the area and a good root system and established ground cover offers anatural solution, plus it’s prettier and more natural than cement for those purposes. Lawns only take up about 1% of the land so it is rather pathetic for the environmentalists to go hunting after a natural control for run off and a source of fresh air, and a natural source of enjoyment for all ages, in order to replace it with weedcover fabric and rocks.comment image

Zeke
August 8, 2016 1:01 pm

Let’s take a look at government environmentalist landscaping in Tehachapi:comment image
The first word that comes to mind is… not “natural”. The word that came to my mind I am not going to say.
Meanwhile, anyone who can grow a pomegranate (Iran, India) or a bougainvaillea (South America), and doesn’t, is notcomment image
natural!