More depressed scientists

From the “weepy Bill McKibben” department.

sandwich board climate earthClimate alarmists were out rattling their doomsday sandwich boards again, repeating their absurd claim that a few degrees of warming, even if it occurs, may wipe out the human race.

According to the Washington Post;

What it’s like when your job is to predict the end of humanity

As recently as 2009, Camille Parmesan had a career that most scientists can only dream of.

That year, the University of Texas professor was named one of Atlantic Monthly’s 27 “Brave Thinkers” for her efforts to save species whose habitats are threatened by climate change.

The distinction — which placed Parmesan on a list alongside Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg and Barack Obama — arrived two years after she shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore for serving as a lead author of the Third Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Camille Parmesan. (Plymouth University) Camille Parmesan. (Plymouth University)

But beneath the acclaim, Parmesan recalls, her work left her “professionally depressed” and panicked — so much so that she eventually abandoned her life in the United States for a new one on the other side of the Atlantic, according to the environmental news website Grist.

“To be honest, I panicked 15 years ago — that was when the first studies came out showing that Arctic tundras were shifting from being a net sink to being a net source of CO2,” she told Esquire’s John H. Richardson for a recent piece about the emotional toll of climate science. “That along with the fact this butterfly I was studying shifted its entire range across half a continent — I said this is big, this is big. Everything since then has just confirmed it.”

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If you make it past Parmesan’s sharing of her angst, without losing your lunch, and through the middle of the article, the final obstacle to your digestive equilibrium is an appearance by Nobel Laureate Michael Mann, who provides readers with a detailed description of his personal multiple climate nightmares and depressive breakdowns.

Mann and Parmesan probably hope that baring their souls to the world will stir feelings of empathy, amongst people who haven’t warmed to their science. However I suspect that repeatedly revealing in depth, just how alien and strange the leaders of the climate alarmist movement are, will have the opposite effect to what they intend. People who can’t enjoy a pleasant sunny day, without experiencing intense depression, are in a mental state pretty far removed from what I think most people would consider “normal”.

Note: Parmesan might also be depressed because her work claiming extinction of the Edith’s Checkerspot butterfly was found to be horribly wrong.

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      • That’s why in 2005 the UN moved to make sure that the term sustainable applied to society, culture, the economy–everything.
        They even have a term for the shift-the Great Transition that they are working on with the OECD. It comes out in the education work I track and then describe once I dig far enough. Now it all just rains via emails from the various involved entities. All at taxpayer expense with usually tax-free salaries and amazingly generous benefits.

      • The introduction to the G7 alarmist document reads:
        ‘Climate change is a global threat to security in the 21st century. It will stress the world’s economic, social, and political systems. Where institutions and governments are unable to manage the stress or absorb the shocks of a changing climate, the risks to the stability of states and societies will increase.’
        ‘Islamic extremism’ could just as well be substituted for climate change in this statement, but that is a real threat and therefore far too difficult to deal with, so the politicians concentrate on saving us from the bogeyman of climate change.

      • Heh, and ‘sustainable’ as commonly understood and expected to be realized, is cripplingly sclerotic.
        Oooh, the ‘smart’ end of the whip.

      • Camille Parmesan it’s time for a reboot and try some real Brave Thinking.
        To be honest, I panicked when cream of the crop, dreamy scientist Camille Parmesan panicked 15 years ago. Camille has the Global warming grant money, the paid lecture tours and the whirlwind lifestyle of traveling to a 100s of different climate symposiums /climate conferences’ all 1st class on the taxpayers dime. Surely they must have helped to ease the pain. the anxiety, the drudgery of life in the fast lane?. Has the Pause secretly given you time to Pause or give 2nd thoughts to your terrifying belief system, hasn’t the money and lifestyle become the real driving force. Camille you are a victim of your own forced feed back looper friend, get out and meet normal people! I dare you!!!!!!
        PS. Camille do you pay indulgences (maybe to the Pope of climate, or to Al Gore’s failed Carbon trading fiasco) or buy carbon credits from the Carbon mafioso ( In the crooked Carbon credit fraud trading market, does it assuage your carbon burning lifestyle????

      • “””””…..
        July 14, 2015 at 10:36 am
        That’s why in 2005 the UN moved to make sure that the term sustainable applied to society, culture, the economy–everything……”””””
        So Robin, when you say the United Nations moved, does that mean that the local population went extinct, or did they just go uphill and north to a different part of Geneva.
        When I was in Geneva in March 2014, I used to see electric trains go by all the time, taking the “Nations ” Route. On one trip in the area, the train I was on actually passed by what seemed to be the United Nations buildings, and there was some sort of riot or demonstration going on in the streets.
        Maybe they were demonstrating against the UN moving to somewhere else.
        So I don’t know where they moved to, but I can see that it would affect the local economies of both the old and the new locations.
        I sure wish they would move out of New York.
        Anyway, there are no San Francisco Bay coyotes in my neighborhood any more so I guess they must have gone extinct. Well its possible that they just got old and died.
        This butterfly duo certainly seem to be a couple of real Bobby dazzlers.
        I don’t have any dandelions in my lawn any more so I never see butterflies on my lawn. But they probably just moved to my daughter’s place, because you have never ever seen such a dandelion filled lawn as the one my daughter has.
        I bet I could pick 1,000 dandelion flowers on her front lawn today; and her lawn is no bigger than mine.
        Butterflies aren’t stupid. They go were the flowers are, and when people put Roundup on their dandelions, then the butterflies go to someone else’s garden, and look for flowers there. They can fly, so they don’t really care if it is uphill or downhill; they can still get there.
        I tend to agree with those who say that this woman needs to see a psychiatrist.
        Ricky Ricardo used to call them Pee-sick-ee-uh-trists, with the accent on the ‘sick’.
        You have to be sick, to get your jollies sitting and listening to other people’s most private fears and phobias; and taking their money to do it. And why would you offer them any kind of relief, which will just stop them coming to you to waste even more money.
        But I would still like to know just where the UN moved to.

      • ‘Camille Parmesan’ did NOT win any part of a Nobel Peace Prize!
        It is a shame that the author couldn’t bother to do any fact checking, especially since this fact is easily checked.
        Ms. Parmesan’s paper (correspondence that got published and utilized by the IPCC) was found, subsequently to be wrong. The ‘Edith’s Checkerspot butterfly’ is not in danger of extinction from ‘climate change’ nor are the butterflies extinct in the areas she based her paper on. Camille Parmesan chose to misinterpret locale changes as the plant growth matures, and instead claimed climate change was the cause.
        What Ms. Parmesan, Mr. Mann and the others need is visits to therapists; not to go weeping about their failures to gullible newspaper authors.
        Heads up to – ATedK

      • No respiration without taxation!! I think that’s what they’re after.
        They have it already. Including the ground you walk on and the air you breathe.

    • Climate Change is now the excuse du jour for pre existing mental conditions it seems.
      Lets face it, ‘Climate Science’ simply attracts catastrophists, narcissists looking for a flag to wave and professional whingers. It used to be religion was the reservoir from which a ‘end of days’ scare campaign would draw its sustenance, now its pasteurised, homogonised pseudo psyience with added permeate. It really belongs in a category with ‘creation science’.

      • I dunno about climate science being on par with creation science, after all the Big Bang is Creation and the universe isn’t eternal so I think climate science is on a much lower rung on the ladder of believability

      • Bryan A says ” and the universe isn’t eternal ”

        I don’t think you can make that statement logically.
        I also don’t think you can provide evidence of it either.

      • Joel,
        Do you believe that the current universe started with the Big bang and is currently expanding from an unspecified point in 4d space/time?
        Do you believe that the Universe is Constant, always has been, always will be, eternal?
        Expanding, not expanding?
        Or do you prefer to be undeclared?

    • They are right about the danger, but miss the point entirely. The real danger comes from the false belief that mankind is somehow responsible for climate change which leads to the even more dangerous belief that man can ‘fix’ it by redistributing wealth under the guise of climate reparations.

  1. Love the picture. But what is unstated is “Climate Change” – up or down is still a change. And why all the winter jackets if it is so warm?

    • LOL, DD. I, too noticed that some of these protesters were wearing serious jackets. OK, so maybe it was a cold day – but their attire didn’t add a lot to the credibility of their message.
      However, I, too, confess to be plagued by depression. I find it thoroughly discouraging that so many (supposedly highly qualified, erudite scientists and lay AGW advocates) appear to be incapable of critical thinking.

  2. From the Hoisted by their Own Petard department…
    No need to be depressed about computer simulation predictions. From come several amazing statements concerning computer predictions, all of which also apply to climate simulations (sadly for some).
    “According to a double-dynamo model advanced by researchers at Northumbria University, solar activity could drop by 60% in the 2030s, mimicking conditions during the Little Ice Age of the 17th century. A widely copied quote-fragment from lead researcher Valentina Zharkova notes that “…we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%.” In fact, the model has never successfully predicted any future solar activity. So far it has only been used to “predict” solar cycles from 1976 to 2008. Almost any model can be fine-tuned to match the past. As forecasting tools, previous dynamo models have failed spectacularly. The double-dynamo model of Zharkova et al may yet prove to be correct, but until it passes the test of correctly predicting future solar activity, there is no reason to worry about an historic decline in sunspots, much less an Ice Age.”

    • Yes, I caught that one too. The model prediction may well be 97%, but the announcement is, how shall we say, , premature.

  3. Sorry everybody, I can not resist. Form the article:

    Dr. Michael E. Mann, Distinguished Professor of Meteorology at Penn State University, told Esquire that climate-change deniers have demoralized his colleagues, leaving one suicidal.

    So this is the way forward. We do not win this fight with data, analysis, and reason. We just criticize them until we drive them crazy or they move to Europe. Either way, it is a Big Win.

      • Actually, I’m pretty sure he teaches divination.
        Tree rings… tea leaves… it’s all the same when only one of The Chosen is qualified to read them.

      • Is it not “tree ring”, rather than “tree rings”?
        Hear-tell he only studied the one tree.

    • I echo Old ‘un.
      Enough folk moving to Europe.
      Many are very willing to work in wealth-creating industries [fewer of those, though, since the Teuro].
      Much competition from Nobel Laureates [those in Europe when we (yes, we all) won the Nobel thingummy for being European, I think] – never mind the industrious millions who have joined us since.
      Still, the City of London continues to need staff – like – Assistant Ranger Coulsdon Common (Fixed Term 18 Months) – on about £20,000 per year – but I don’t know if the Mann-made guy is ready for that.

    • +100, but B. Sanders needs to lead the parade. Maybe we can convince them they walk on water for the trip?!?

      • If we have another Little Ice Age, “walking on water” will happen more frequently!

  4. Globull worming heat is a special heat, you have to believe in it to feel it ( like magic, voodoo & all religious claptrap ) . But you’d think the sandwich-board man would be in shorts & a sun hat !!

    • He doused himself in sun screen before heading out, you dont want that ugly vitamin D production going on when everybody is watching! better to take a a pill every day, at least you know what’s in it, never know what else is in those sun rays……

  5. They spawn an entire subset of emotional nitwits who populate places like the Climate Council’s facebook page…while banning anyone who dares say “SNAPOUDAVIT”….

  6. Climate alarmists always remind me of Big Foot hunters. See that broken branch? A Big Foot did that. See that storm? Climate change did that. Of course when you look at the advanced climate station temperature data there has been no warming in the contiguous US in the last ten years. Or when you examine the satellite global temperature data there has been no global warming for over 18 years.

  7. The neurotic always needs something to fear. Climate alarmism provides a basic need for the neurotic. So, let us please not knock it. OK? Help the neurotic, proclaim the dangers of climate change!

    • Michael
      In England we get Lows – and Highs!
      And a lot else – in most 24 hour periods.
      That’s why weather forecasting here is – for more than about 48 hours ahead, even today, with the Good Dame Ella Gloom-bucks’ new hyper-computing toys – very little different from astrology with numbers, although they do get on TV.

  8. Parmesan says, “That along with the fact this butterfly I was studying shifted its entire range across half a continent — I said this is big, this is big. Everything since then has just confirmed it.”
    And then there is the Kudzu expanding its range
    The destruction of soybean plants by the bean plataspid or kudzu bug
    The cane toad in Australia,
    and this Tamarisk Beetle
    Tamarisk Beetle
    “With documented populations now ranging from Chihuahua, Mexico to California, and up into Oregon, Idaho, Wyoming, and Kansas, the tamarisk beetle (Diorhabda spp.) has quickly become a part of many riparian ecosystems in the West. The efficacy of the beetle, which damages tamarisk through repeated leaf defoliation, is apparent across portions of many western states and parts of northern Mexico, where large areas of beetle affected tamarisk can be observed.
    The beetle was released over a decade ago by the U.S. Department of Agriculture in an attempt to manage tamarisk. Since then, the beetles quickly expanded their range.”
    These all have anthropogenic causes for their spread and subsequent depredation: Government introduction programs.

    • it is truly amazing how selective global warming is in its effects. truly amazing:
      global warming only kills “good” insects.
      global warming helps “bad” insects thrive.
      for example: butterflies and honey bees – killed by global warming. mosquitoes and flies – spread by global warming.

    • Zeke– The concept of a static climate, or static universe for that matter, is an impossibility. Earth’s climate has ALWAYS been changing and will continue to do so.
      Without question, global cooling is what humans must fear, not warming…. The Earth has been cooling steadily for the past 8,000 years since the Holocene Maximum… Humans didn’t cause the warming then, nor during the numerous warming periods since, which occur roughly every 1,000 years…
      From all empirical evidence, the Medieval Warming Period 1,000 years ago was roughly 2C warmer than now. There were no climatic “depredations” back then, conversely, the MWP was an era of record crop yields for the ear, relatively rapid population growth and relatively fast economic growth….
      The empirical evidence shows the increase in CO2 from 280ppm to 400ppm has perhaps contributed around 0.2C out of the 0.85C total global warming since the end of the LITTLE ICE AGE in 1850… Who cares? LITTLE ICE AGES are not good for the environment; cold kills. We should be ecstatic global temps have recovered since the LITTLE ICE AGE…
      Let’s continue to address REAL problems of REAL manmade pollutants, as we are doing:
      Let’s forget about wasting $10’s of trillions trying to reduce manmade CO2 emissions, which only have a tiny warming effect and huge benefits in increasing crop yields and forest growth (roughly 25% increase since the 1950’s). Burning cheap fossil fuels has been a HUGE boon to improving people’s lives and standards of living. To deprive men of fossil fuels will result in the death of 10’s if not 100’s of millions of people, which is morally reprehensible.
      Wind and solar energy are awfully expensive, insufficient and inefficient ways to generate energy and a complete waste of capital. Let’s wait until cheaper and cleaner forms of energy are developed and stop needlessly flushing $trillions down the toilet on failed uncompetitive energy for no reason whatsoever.
      China’s first Thorium Molten Salt reactor goes on line THIS YEAR and they expect to have a commercial MSR design ready for worldwide rollout by 2023….
      Can’t you just wait a few more years, Zeke? Need I remind you that there hasn’t been a global warming trend in 19 years, despite 30% of all manmade CO2 emissions since 1750 being made over just the last 19 years….
      Jeez, Zeek…

      • Just this week the US government imposed a 240% tariff on solar panels from China! So much for ‘making solar energy cheaper’.

      • If China solar panels are too expensive and need to be subsidized; and US solar panels can’t compete with China panels pricewise, then why does anyone believe they will ever be cost competitive.
        The Gummint is jacking up the price of China panels with tariffs, and then robbing US taxpayers to subsidize those peple who don’t mind swilling at the public trough for their fetishes.

      • @Samurai
        Thank you for your remarks and link.
        I was pointing out that those weeds and pests had been introduced in the US and Oz through government programs. That is what I meant by “anthropogenic” causes. Perhaps there is a book in this subject for someone.
        I apologize for not being more clear.

  9. Bless their little hearts. Perhaps all future grants should include lifetime mental benefits at the Dr. Kevorkian Mental Health Institute.

  10. Probably they are all depressed because they realise that the gravy train is about to dry up.

    • Surely it’s getting wetter . . .
      Ummmm . . .
      Oh! Sorry1
      The Gravy Train will dry up . . . Ohhhhhh – I do so fervently hope so . . .
      Auto – with suddenly high hopes of andrewm’s computer model!

  11. Hey, I thought that after Bill McKibben took the time to sit down and talk with Anthony that it was time to drop the “weepy.” He may get emotional about stuff but based on Anthony’s account it was a genuine and classy move.

    • Mark, you beat me to it by half an hour. I was hoping we could drop that particular
      jab in the interest of civility.
      Otherwise have to agree with this post.

      • I also agree with the post. Anyone that believes they’re making a big sacrifice as salaried faculty at a research university should be publicly mocked and sent to the gulag for re-programming.

    • I was thinking about that also. But then how do we refer to Bill M?
      The entity formerly known as weepy Bill M?

  12. How does one abandon their life in the US while working at University of Texas, Austin since 2000?

  13. Today we leave for Kingston, Ontario to present testimony to the Queen’s University investment people who have been challenged by to divest themselves of all fossil fuel related holdings, including investment funds that have anything to do with fossil fuel holdings.
    The mere mention above of above provokes a response:
    Unlike the foolish shepherd in Aesop’s fairy tale, works on the thesis that if they can get everyone to cry wolf, the wolf is real because almost everyone thinks it is. They vilify people who do not cry “Wolf” with them as ‘misled’ and ‘wolf-deniers’.
    They particularly target audiences like high school children who do not know what a wolf looks like. then defines every ordinary thing around them as ‘wolf’, ‘wolf in sheep’s clothing’ or ‘invisible, powerful wolf coming back to bite you’. They conduct wolf-spotting classes and promote wolf-protection schemes then solicit funds to conduct more of them.
    When no wolves can be found they will proclaim their efforts a success and ask for more money to carry on their campaign at other educational institutions.

    • Tell your investment people that selling oil company interests after oil has fallen from $120 to $50 a barrel is what the boys and girls in Houston call “locking in your losses”.

      • “Tell your investment people that selling oil company interests after oil has fallen from $120 to $50 a barrel is what the boys and girls in Houston call “locking in your losses”.
        This is akin what the person at the brokerage house told me in June of 2001 when I was moving my elderly mother’s retirement funds from 100% stocks to tax free municipal bonds, Anyone can look up how this decision fared over the subsequent years.
        When long term trends are broken, the herd will quite often bolt. Best not to be the last one holding the bag.
        Which seems like a better idea, “Locking in losses” or “Sticking with your losers”?
        Many so-called retail investors have a tendency to sell the stocks that have been profitable, and keeping the ones that are down. This strategy is logically flawed, and history shows it to, more often then not, be a poor choice.
        Stated another way, if I was wrong to own a particular stock, why should I keep being wrong? To wait until I get back to even on that trade?
        Often best to takes ones lumps and move on to greener pastures.
        Locking in losses is not always a bad idea, especially if you lock them in before they become bigger if/when oil falls to $35, or if you then use losses to offset gains and hence lower one’s tax burden.
        Besides, investments are best viewed in terms of the then-present situation, not where one came from or bought in.
        Not advocating for(or against) divestment, but one may be well advised to consider both sides when contemplating investment decisions.
        Besides all of that, it seems to me that divesting of fossil fuel related stocks means getting out of all major index funds. Which means, if one also wants to remain invested in equities, stock picking. Which is very risky.
        Best speak to your Stock Option Swami about navigating those straits.

    • Good luck with that. My alma mater is but an intellectual shell of what it was decades ago.

  14. and birds, bees, trees and animals are thriving in cities of concrete, tarmac and glass, up to 16 degrees hotter than the surrounding countryside.

  15. … Michael Mann, who provides readers with a detailed description of his personal multiple climate nightmares and depressive breakdowns. …

    I hope that “Dr.” Mann does indeed have nightmares and breakdowns as he deserves them given all the poor who have suffered due to his scam. The “heat or eat” problem in the UK that I have read about being just one small part of the suffering due to his stupid “hockey stick”.
    Jesus, Joseph, and Mary — look at the temperatures of the Holocene and see where we are headed! We are headed out of the interglacial and into a full blown ice age. (yes, I know we are in one now … but still)
    I wish the CO2 delusion were real, then we would have hope of beating the coming ice age; but it is just not so.
    [Please do not threaten innocent nightmares and breakdowns on Mann. It is not site policy to threaten innocents by associating them with or assigning them to climate scientists. 8<) .mod]

  16. The only thing that gives these alarmists “climate nightmares and depressive breakdowns” is when there isn’t any warming or climate disruption. Whenever there is a violent storm, a killer heatwave, or a “hottest year ever,” these people can’t hide their manic excitement. Sea ice melting in the Arctic thrills them, but sea ice expanding in the Antarctic depresses them and causes them to go into denial. They truly have a form of “bipolar” disorder. But it’s not the prospect of doom that panics them. It’s the prospect of being wrong.

    • ‘Mann and Parmesan probably hope that baring their souls to the world will stir feelings of empathy, amongst people who haven’t warmed to their “science”.’ – fixed.
      Not just the prospect, the probability of being wrong.

  17. “professionally depressed” – that may happen if you pretend to be a professional. A true professional admits an error.

      • I should also add, is this a new profession? Being depressed? What University do I go to Penn State or the one in Oz or England?

    • I am a keen amateur depressive in my spare time — and a pretty damn good one, if you want to know — but I was unaware that it is a profession as well.
      What are the hours like?

      • If you want to be a true professional depressed ? 24/7, no ups my friend everything is down. That is what it is like to be professionally depressed . No such thing as “A keen amateur depressive in your spare time” , gee that statement makes me feel depressed you’re weaseling!

  18. “Climate change will destroy earth.”
    Nah. This big dirt ball will keep flying around the sun, no matter what we do.

  19. Frankly, I think it’s disgusting, one of them is drinking, one of them is smoking, one is doing the old superglue through the paper bag thing and another one has one his hands on the family jewels.
    Disgraceful – shame on you Eric.

  20. And what of those of us who want to kick puppies when we’re subjected to alarmism? Where’s our cry for sympathy?

  21. Who would have guessed that someone dull enough to think the planet is imperiled is also emotionally unstable?

  22. Is there not a psychiatrist in the world that knows that this epidemic of depression is from the ‘pause’? Why do you think NOAA/NCAR pinched their nostrils and bent the pause out of existence when their patience ran out. They know this is what is big, really big. Its actually being cooling since 2005/06 -~ a decade. This is what is scaring the hell out of them. Com’on blaming sceptics for their health woes. The-end-is-nigh types have been known to be cuckoo for centuries. They’ve just not been paid so handsomely for it. It was easy to vilify sceptics and they are doing it more hysterically, but now it is nature doing the damage to their livelihoods and careers. It must be a terrible strain to be faced with the possibility that you have wasted half a lifetime and most of a career being dead wrong. Avoiding facing this causes clinical depression – it has a venerable term …err …denial.

  23. Fundamentally, the world is catching on that the climate alarm was exaggerated, you know, the old boy crying wolf bit. Eliciting this sort of sympathy is pathognomonic for a guilty conscience.
    It might have worked but for all the damages and deaths. There will be little sympathy for the most egregious of the alarmists. They’ve been far too destructive.

    • You mean as in James Hansen and his cohort being directly responsible for the deaths of many thousands of elderly fuel-poverty victims each winter? So he could continue his grandstand arrests and rake in his lucrative speaking fees?
      Criminals in the vein of Goebbels with the big lie, deflecting the truth with terms like “death trains” and “deniers”.

      • BobM – exaggerated, maybe – possibly for effect – and I suggest that Hansen and the rest of his little gang – are not ‘Directly’ responsible.
        Though there may be politicians in the UK, who have bought into – the racist and even genocidal, I venture to flag up – nonsense, who are much less indirectly responsible.
        Hansen; the Mann-made guy; several other – indirectly, useful-idiot – responsibility-bearers.
        Post turtles all.

      • Yes, of course exaggerated, intentionally, to mimic the content and tone of some of what gets lobbed in from the other side almost daily. A reminder that what goes around comes around. And no, I don’t think Hansen is personally responsible for any specific crime other than what he’s gotten arrested for, but he’s been an outspoken supporter of the policies which have lead to the fuel-poverty consequences fully documented by others.

  24. When your entire livelihood is dependent upon gathering funds from the public trough, and you have learned that the louder the alarm you sound the more funding flows your way, you will spend a lot of time looking for the biggest, reddest panic buttons to push. Your choice…
    Naturally this fosters a nihilistic mind-set that focuses on negativity.
    You develop the contrary of what, in the days of Norman Vincent Peale, was called ‘Positive Thinking.’
    If you weren’t a depressed and depressing person when you started, you will soon become one.
    One might use this as a process exemplifying “Evil to him who evil thinks.”
    …sort of a psychological version of “You are what you eat”, or for the more scripturally inclined, “As you sow, so shall you reap.”
    The adages covering this are endless, and many throughout history have learned the cogent message, often at deep personal expense.
    But still there are those who would rather repeat history than learn from it.

  25. I dunno…aren’t these types the kind of people who use the rather biased word “overpopulation”, meaning too many humans?
    So, what is the problem now that we’re all going to die? Won’t that be good for the planet?

  26. In a future world (one where the climate change meme comes crashing to ground like a bad Ponzi scheme), we might see a paper published with a title such as this…
    Realistic Fury: The Effect of Truthful Ideation on the Mental Health of Climate Scam Artists
    Author: Stephan Lewandowsky
    Presuming that Lew isn’t retired when that day comes, he will certainly be looking for a new bandwagon (and source of funding) to jump on. His demonstrated lack of morals would come in handy when trying a Benedict Arnold-like move in order to come over to the other side of the debate.

    • Dave,
      Neither of us think Lew is a paragon.
      none the less, may I suggest:
      ” His perceived lack of morals . . .”
      Feel less uncomfortable?

  27. The thing is that Jim Steele has communicated extensively with Camille Parmesan about her work. She knows for a fact that it’s wrong. And yet, there she is, insistent as ever.
    That Washington Post story is a stomach-turner, alright, with one analytically incompetent climate ersatz-scientist after another agonizing over their insider knowledge of doomsday, their hurt feelings over being disputed, and those horrid skeptics who just won’t understand!

    • And McIntyre has published how bad Mann paleoclimate is. Both Parmesan and Mann KNOW their stuff is worse than just wrong. It is knowingly wrong. But it bought them first class seats on the global warming train.
      There are only two possibilities given WaPo says they both profess dispair. One, they are dissembling to keep up the false facade. That is evil. Two, they truely are mentally ‘deficient’ in same way doomsday cultists are. It even possible both conditions obtain simultaneously, as with James Jones and his cyanide Cool Aid. Parmesan and Mann, serving up their spiked climate cool aid.

      • Agreed, Rud, though I suspect that some of their emotional state may be sublimated worry that they may be exposed. Especially Mann. He’s been hiding his work for going on 20 years. He knows if it ever really got out, his lie would be exposed. That has to keep him awake at 2 am, some nights.
        It occurred to me to wonder whether Camille Parmesan fled to the UK to get away from Jim Steele’s critical perceptions.

      • Were it not for the significance of the ‘Crook’t Stick’ I might be able to forgive the Piltdown Mann his sequestered R values; he was a young, inexperienced researcher, seeking his puerile arrogant way in academia and politics. It is another matter to forgive his manipulation of subsequent proxy series in an attempt to validate his first ones.
        In this he had the connivance, the active assistance, yes, the conspiracy of his academic and political peers. Don’t just damn him, but damn him, surely. And them.

      • Bradley and Hughes must have known what went into MBH98/99, Kim. If they didn’t they were professionally remiss. If they did, they were co-conspirators.
        And even if they did not know at the time, they should have become very alarmed when Steve M. revealed the contents of Mann’s ‘BACK to 1400 CENSORED‘ directory. So far as I know, they evinced no alarm and did nothing to correct the record. Events don’t speak well of them.

  28. Perhaps what is depressing the cheese lady is the insidious thought that Jim Steele was right all along.
    But think yourself back to 2005, the high tide of the Global Warming Narrative ahead of “Gettysburg” at Copenhagen 2009. Given that the evidence for the narrative was spread across a score of specialities and the proof buried deep in reports of 700 pages referencing thousands of peer reviewed papers, what was a poor lepidopterist to do but buy the Lewandowsky Paradox that
    the truth of the narrative was so obvious that doubt was prima facia evidence of cognitive disorder.
    No-one is more susceptible to the “argument from authority” than those who themselves are “authorities” , since doubt undermines their own status.
    Thus – accepting the “narrative” biased her own research work, which was then catalogued as “evidence” for the narrative.
    How many more committed scientists are now waiting for “Captain Ahab to catch up with them”
    (h/t John Le Carre) or seeking exit strategies from the biggest error they have ever made?
    Make no mistake, the political imperative that provided the driver is about to reverse at a speed that only politics, which will sacrifice anybody, however eminent, can accomplish.
    Again John Le Carre; “when a cover runs – it runs like an old sock”.

    • Nice observations. The tide has turned. UK, Australia, more and more US states, India, … Paris will fail ; in a palpable sense (GCF, binding commitments) it already has. The whole thing will likely unravel rapidly thereafter. Rapidly still meaning a few years given all the institutional momentum built up through Copenhagen 2009. We need to start working on culpability for the perps.
      A suggestion. UN did not stop Russia’s annexation of Crimea, nor China’s island building agression in the Spratly’s. WHO incompetent on Ebola. No UN action on multiple refugee crises. UNFCC the main perp on the CAGW thing. Simple. Tell the UN rent and property taxes are due in New York, and the US is ceasing its UN contributions until it cleans up its act. Why fund a toothless annex 2 lobbying institution impotent against annex 1 aggression?

    • Brilliant – saved to my rotating screen-saver, too.
      Hugely appreciated.
      I have also got the London Bus with the advert ‘We are in Drought’ – in a London downpour, brollies everywhere, about eighty yards/metres from my then office.
      Again, H.R. awesomely appreciated!

    • Ah the Copenhagen COP15 from December 2009 to bad it isn’t in the WIKI article on COP15

  29. Left this in the comments under the ‘article’ at the Washington Post:

    “‘Camille Parmesan’ is NOT win any part of a Nobel Peace Prize winner!
    It is a shame that the author couldn’t bother to do any fact checking, especially since this fact is easily checked.
    Ms. Parmesan’s paper (correspondence that got published and utilized by the IPCC) was found, subsequently to be wrong. The ‘Edith’s Checkerspot butterfly’ is not in danger of extinction from ‘climate change’ nor are the butterflies extinct in the areas she based her paper on. Camille Parmesan chose to misinterpret locale changes as the plant growth matures, and instead claimed climate change was the cause.
    What Ms. Parmesan, Mr. Mann and the others need is visits to therapists; not to go weeping about their failures to gullible newspaper authors.”

    • ATheo
      But Parma is in Europe, and the EU – so all Parmesans – like all Londoners, Munchenites, Nicois, Oportoites, etc – won the Nobel thingummy.
      Nothing to do with Lepidoptera, but just geography.
      I must say, being a Nobelliard has not notably transformed my life, nor those of the 500 million or so other co-joint-laureates, so far as I have noticed.
      But it’s nice to self-recognise.
      Auto – joint-co-fraternal Nobelliard-of Europe.

      • Sorry, Auto.
        If her name isn’t on the ‘Nobel Peace Prize’ list of honor, explicitly, then she wasn’t honored with a Nobel Peace Prize.
        Auto might still be on the list; please apply to the EU for your share so we can be happy for you, (and envious).
        I have little doubt that Mann and likely Parmesan are keeping scrapbooks; though, Mann’s scrapbook will be the only one with his personal corrections of history.

  30. I don’t doubt that Camille Parmesan and Michael Mann really believe that the climate is warming due to human activities. Now, what is it called when someone believes something that is false?
    Psychologists call that delusion.
    If the falsity of the belief cannot be proven, then it is a religion.

  31. So I have a friend who had the good fortune to own land in the Columbia Gorge wind farm corridor. Resulted in leases to build windmills. On the way to construction of course there are a zillion Alphabet soup of agencies that have to sign off in order for a permit to be issued. Among them the Corps of Engineers who, of course, have an obligation to evaluate for any possible indigenous peoples artifacts or historical sites. This resulted in a visit by tribal representatives who made note of some piled stone “fox holes” near the cliffs that overlook the Columbia River. One of the tribal reps allowed that they didn’t know for sure but MAYBE these were birthing stations. Actually got down in one and “assumed the position” to show how a woman could brace herself during childbirth. Indian artifacts are not something a landowner wants to find around these parts as it is effectively a subornation your property rights. So the landowner poured through local history and newspapers to see if there was anything identifying what the pits might have been used for back in the day. Finally in some old family photos there they were… a crew of guys with their take lined out in front of them and the GOOSE BLINDS clearly being used in the early 50’s.
    Warmists and environmentalists truly making stuff up and believing it deeply is not new.

  32. In 2009, after the Copenhagen conference, a United Church minister had a public meltdown over the conference’s failure to save the world. I often wonder whether humanity has a hardwired need to be deeply afraid. The First World lives in an unprecedented time of peace and affluence and yet we are filled with fears of the most imaginative sort. CO2 has become the 21st century’s witchcraft.

  33. For some Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) has been supplanted by Climatic Affective Disorder (CAD).

  34. Makes me wonder if Mann, Parmesan and others have ‘problems’ to start with and their approach to ‘climate change’ stems from that.

  35. Ref the article photo, the gut in the gray puffy jacket to the right of the sign holder…. who the hell walks like that? Typically, normal people walk with their arms acting as a counter balance to their leg motion…

    • The guy on the right is off-stride, too, and Gaia only knows what the fella on the left is up to.

      • I think they are keeping their hands on their wallets or double checking to make sure they still have them.
        I would check too.
        Plus, they’re all breathing easier that eye contact was avoided.

      • I think the fella on the left is miming his commitment to the cause by pedaling an imaginary bicycle. Or maybe he’s really comic and it’s a tricycle.

  36. Josh! Where are you? We need a very small violin and a little pixie standing on fairy dust to play it.

  37. She was so panicked about global warming that she moved from the US to Europe.
    What, Europe isn’t gong to be hit by global warming? Which model predicted that?

  38. Many people in this generation have been taught by their public schools and the media to rely on their feelings and emotions rather than on objective logic and reason to form their worldview. They’ve also been taught to abandoned any concept of individualism and that one must sacrifice and be subservient to the good of the collective.
    This is a very dangerous and destructive epistemology, as an individual’s worldview isn’t formed by logic and reason, but rather by whatever the prevailing collective “consensus” happens to be. If one doesn’t conform to the “collective consensus”, the person feels emotional dissonance and isolation. That’s why CAGW’s “97% consensus” meme is such an effective tool used by the gatekeepers.
    It’s my hope that CAGW’s imminent demise will show people their epistemology is fatally flawed, and that “A” does, in fact, equal “A” and that one’s own worldview must be derived based on objective logic, reason, thought and empirical evidence and not on some subjective “consensus” based feelings, emotions and the need for self-sacrifice to the collective.
    We’ll see soon enough whether people will start examining their flawed philosophical and moral premises.

  39. These kind of articles are very helpful in understanding why alarmists, even the scientists, prefer to ignore anything and everything that contradicts their ideas about climate: they have an emotional, not to say neurotic, attachment to those ideas.

  40. I wonder if they even have any inkling about what people with good memories are going to do to them in the future. I’m planning on at least 10 years of vitriol and ridicule. In fact, I’m quite looking forward to it.

  41. There are many scientists in the world . Those in the West and in the traditional mainstream disciplines of physics, chemistry , materials science and engineering have seen their depts disappear , potential employers move production and development to China and Govt research funding dry up . Only in the field of climate science has the opposite happened – yet these are the one who are weeping .

  42. Every time Camille pops her head over the parapet should be an opportunity to remind her she has a pending request to share her data with Jim Steele.
    Cognitive dissonance is the cause of the anxiety. The only resolution for that is openness and honesty. Mainly with yourself.

  43. In Australia, this is similar to a two part article over the past couple of days in The Conversation by celebrity professor Clive Hamilton titled The Banality of Ethics in the Anthropocene …
    The first sentence gives a hint at the hilarity written within …
    “Among the great crimes of the 20th century the most enduring will surely prove to be human disruption of the Earth’s climate.”
    One might assume that all generations over the past 100 years stand guilty with heads bowed in the docks, but fortunately within a few sentences Hamilton makes clear who has to take the rap …
    “Corporations causing harm to people through their emission of greenhouse gases may be subject to tort law and may be sued for damages. The Principles observe that States are obliged to protect human life and the integrity of the biosphere through an existing network of national and international obligations.
    “Looking back on the last two decades of denial, delay and obstruction, there have been perhaps two hundred individuals who should be held most culpable, if not by the courts then by history, for failing to prevent harm or of obstructing others from taking measures to prevent harm.”
    And I’ll betcha while he was figuring out the 200 criminals, Anthony Watts was on his list.
    Hamilton is fearful of the 30% increase in ocean acidity and still rising, the unstoppable melting ice masses and the tectonic plate movements, earthquakes and volcanoes that are happening because of CO2, which is also suppressing the next ice age that we were all looking forward to in 50,000 years.
    His morbid ramblings again prove that fear is borne of ignorance.

  44. This is the same Parmisan that Jim Steele proved wrong in his excellent book “Landscapes and Cycles”. Hope she hasn’t come to the UK we have enough climate kooks already.

  45. It appears that the UK, where I live, has now taken in both of the world’s climate refugees – Parmesan and Lewandowski. This is most unfair. Surely other countries should share the burden of responsibility and take in their own quotas?

    • Ah ha, so that’s what the UN meant by “climate refugees”! But, my god, I didn’t know there were 50 million of these people.

  46. WAclimate , Your links contain some comments of his , amusing for their pomposity , but also questionable in terms of fact :
    “With modern technology humans have become so powerful that we now rival the great forces of nature, so much so that we have diverted the planet from its natural course, taking it out of the Holocene’s 10,000 years of climatic stability and clemency into a new, unstable and dangerous geological epoch, the Anthropocene”
    10000 years of climate stability and clemency ? is that really so? Not what i have gathered from general reading of prehistory.
    I can only imagine , never having been in that position , that if you are a professor pomposity is allowed , and if you are a celebrity professor it is almost compulsory, but disseminating arguable facts from your position of authority ? Not so pretty.

  47. Emotionalism is a cultural tool of the socialists & media. Every issue, no matter what, has a weepy angle applied. It’s nauseating.

  48. Michael Mann “He has broken down in front of his students and can’t shake the fears he has about his daughter living in an alien planet that no longer resembled the one she was born into.
    “I don’t want her to have to be sad,” Mann told Esquire. “And I almost have to believe we’re not yet there, where we are resigned to this future.”
    My Grandmother was born in 1898. As a 4 year old she travelled by stage coach from Christchurch to Otira, West Coast New Zealand. She grew up in a house that used a wood/coal stove, no running water, long hole toilet.
    She died in 1996.
    She saw – Motorcars, aeroplanes, trains, electricity, space travel to the moon, 2 world wars, several smaller wars, vast improvements in food.
    Nothing of what she saw resembled the world into which she was born. Would she have returned to the world she was born into? Hell no.
    So, what is your problem Michael?

  49. Parmesan will hardly enhance ANY standing that Plymouth may have. Yet another poor appointment funded by the poor uk taxpayer.

  50. Plymouth University oh dear an ex poly where you can take a degree course which includes surfing studies.

  51. Looks like quite a march/protest.
    Humm….. A cut out holding a sign and three individuals with both feet on the ground posing for the camera. Other pedestrians were making tracks/time going around this massive three person demonstration. LOL

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