Guest essay by Eric Worrall
UN climate chief Christiana Figueres has stated that Australia must stop mining coal.
According to the Sydney Morning Herald;
Speaking at a conference in Melbourne on Wednesday, Christiana Figueres drew a parallel between Australia and the oil kingdom [Saudi Arabia] as countries that would need to diversify their economies as the world grapples with global warming.
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Ms Figueres said ultimately Australia would have to move away from coal for environmental reasons and changes in global economic patterns. She said nobody was saying this would have to happen overnight, but the transition should be orderly, gradual and progressive.
‘”The science is very clear, there is no space for any new coal,” she said.
Ms Figures doesn’t have any specific advice about how Australia should fill the gigantic hole in her finances, which decommissioning the coal mining industry would create. Perhaps Ms Figures feels her job is simply to give us directives, to tell us what must be. The responsibility, the details of how her directives will be implemented, is someone elses problem.
“You represent a huge potential to lead the world into a very healthy economic diversification path. You haven’t figured out how to do that yet but that, my friends, is your homework.”
Perhaps she thinks they can transfer their industry into the patisserie business?
Does she really think [at all] ???
Not really, but she should go acting, I have never seen any actress past or present who could turn on the tears (crocodile?) with such rapidity on demand! Bloomin marvelous, true Oscar material!
Probably doesn’t think at all.
Saudi Arabia has two commodities, oil and sand.
What will the Saudis do?
hourglasses are so passé
Saudi gets sand (and camels) from Australia.
http://adrian-learnsomethingneweveryday.blogspot.com/2012/02/24-feb-2012-saudi-arabia-imports-sand.html
She’s a member of the international wealthy elite who didn’t even need to work for the money, not even get elected. She is a member of a modern transnational and mostly invisible aristocracy. They hang around at transnational organizations like the WHO, IMF, World Bank, UN, EU, and a myriad other things that should be target by peasants with pitchforks and tumbrels. (Did I get UNESCO in there?)
The UN is a pox on the planet; and the parasites that infest that organization, need to look for some honest work, for a change.
There’s a big lake near Geneva; like right down town.
Senora (ita) Figueres, can just go and jump in it. But be careful of the white swans.
Madam Figures suffers from low oxygen uptake to the brain. Who can blame her? with 400PPM !!!!! of CO2, it is very very hard to get enough air at the top…. I think that the warming is not what will kill us all but Oxygen deprivation!
Robert
Yes, maybe we should add the IOCC to this list! They would be hard to beat for corruption and lack of accountability!
Cheers,
Alastair
I think oxygen thief is a more apt description
Or else!
Or else what?
Or we will be very angry and we will write you a letter telling you how angry we are.
Hopefully the Aussies will tell Ms. Figueres, “So long and thanks for all the fish” (What the dolphins said in The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) they were never mentioned again as Ms. Figures should take note……
Scott, I think we can figure out something to say that has the same general idea.
…that’s going to really piss China off
They have to figure out how to conquer China and control it too…/sarc (you want a war with China, do this!)
For the record, She is an idiot communist. The stupidity and arrogance of her demand is stunning.
should have written; You want to start a war with China, do this!
Why doesn’t the UN pick on Indonesia which exports more coal, on a percentage basis, than does Australia?
And since Australia exports most of its coal to emerging nations in East Asia, where will those nations turn to, to acquire the cheap energy they need if Australia stops the exporting of its coal?
The words are “skeptical Government which has seen through the deception”. That is why they were singled out.
I think you are right on the money.
They think expensive energy everywhere is a key to saving the planet and population in the third world should be reduced instead of expanding.
Indonesia and Mongolia have lots of coal. Personally I don’t see why it should be cheap as it is a depleting resource. If I advised either of them they should turn it into liquid fuels before allowing it across the border.
Because Indonesia is run by the mohammadams, and it doesn’t say in the Koran, not to use coal.
‘Why doesn’t the UN pick on Indonesia …’
Ah that’s the rub, its a third world country, only first worlders are required to put on sack cloth.
Figueres should stick to Mannscaping her own mapatasi.
Max, had to look all of that up. LOL, bad boy!
🙂 Good one!
Time for a Rorschach test!
Look inside your head
🙂
Horshack
I’m 99% sickness based on my second test. Way to go. 😀
Who will rid us of these arrogant, puffed-up technocrat dictators? Figures, when we have voted you into a position of power, you will have the right to advise us. Until then, STFU.
If the latest UAH LT anomaly map is any indication, they’ll need more coal, not less.
Gee, I don’t even remember voting for her.
fossilized mentality
Which UN resolution does that come under ? Who voted on it? and when ?
The tipoff lie, along with such classics such as “the debate is over” and “97% of climate scientists agree” that an even bigger lie is coming.
+10
Here, here Bruce, we call them Climate Dick-heads over here in Aus.
Hey sweetie. Instead of addressing production why not show up in China and dictate to the Central Committee that they must reduce coal consumption. Then the Aussie exports will decline on their own. Good luck with that.
China’s consumption fell nearly 3% last year, and their government is actively shifting to renewables and closing coal mines.
China imports coal; it does not close mines because it can, but because some mines are exhausted beyond economically feasible usability.
What comes to renewables, yes, their are building stuff like Three Gorges Dam. Greenpeace was not completely satisfied. They will be even less satisfied when they finally learn the environmental consequences of PV and windpower.
Wow. Africa is cooling down fast.
Not in Ouagadougou. Well into the 100s F or 40C.
…and jail terms for coal miners and mine union leaders, because they said so.
A few weeks ago a journalist in the UK noted that if Natalie Bennett had few brain cells she would need watering twice a day think the same logic applies to Figueres. If I remember correctly coal is only 2nd best to iron ore for Australia and if they suffered declines in either or both then theoretically Australia would go bust in the same way that Russia would without coal iron ore oil and gas.
Bet that Figueres doesn’t wander over to Moscow and confront Mr Putin with the same rhetoric, in reality I wish that she would and hopefully would suffer the same consequences as the Pussy riot, a million years hard labour with no remission for being so damn stupid.
If the BP review is correct we only have 50 years left of coal oil and gas so she might live long enough to see her dreams come true.
I have always thought that AGW is all about trying to make sure that there is just enough fossil fuel and beef left to ensure the elite have enough to sate their appetite whilst leaving us to feed on bugs. In the same way that Rolls Royce has seen a turn down in the Chinese market mainly because it is now thought unseemly for the party elite to be chauffeured about in stretched RR Phantom’s at $1 million a piece.
Do these people never look at the numbers and have they no conscience whatsoever, why is there no sanction on their corruption?
one thing about those Chinese is when a bureaucrat steps across the line too far or too many times they by golly get RE-EDUCATED. It has its excesses but its hard not to admire the brutal efficiency of it.
”The science is very clear, there is no space for any new coal,” she said.
But is not all Aussie coal kinda old. Or is that why Indonesia, China and Russia get a pass, because they have really old coal.
Bravo David, you’ve just touched on a theme I haven’t considered. Maybe she wants all the Communist countries to still be in that filthy business so when the West goes Bankrupt (led by the Greek, EU and US), she can just go over there and live. They are all Communist Frontmen and Women!! Unelected Scum-Sucking, bottom-dwelling, mongrel Dogs!!
No, they do not have consciences. There is only arrogance.
Think back when the “League of Nations” and the UN was being conjured up in the brains of the socialist nannies. Remember all the Rah Rah Rah about world peace and rainbows and butterflies?
I remember the shameless indoctrination videos narrated by Africans with British-English accents.
The nostalgia is making me misty.
Wow, what a bunch of foul cr@p that all was.
Now I am all growed up, I don’t listen to the UN, people who assume authority from the UN on any subject, or people quote the UN in policy making. ( I just wrote off 1 billion socialists in one sentence)
Do you think that when the Radical islamists start dropping Iran-Made nukes on everyone, that thereafter, there will be a UN? Ha Ha ha… no!
The thing is, you either have a UN with teeth, or not have one at all. In Bosnia, the UN was a joke; remember ‘UNsafe areas’? So you either have a UN that has the authority of all other nations to impose its will very strongly, or you don’t have any such organisation at all. I’m with the latter.
The Ghost….
It is because the litany of failures of the UN wrt wars, it’s primary purpose, and the downright weird involvement in human social engineering that push me to the latter also. The league of nations enabled the rise of Germany prior to WWII. We now have the rise of a nuclear Iran. ( Iran means Ayrian BTW)
If America stopped all funding for the UN it, the UN, would cease to exist in short order. I would like to see a candidate make that pledge in 2016.
The only thing worse than the current UN, would be a UN with teeth.
The UN has teeth…they are called the United States Military. Shame but its so even on humanitarian relief how often have the carriers been deployed to desalinize water or the C5s sent to carry relief emblazoned with the UN crest?
Paul W
The rise of Germany after WW I was directly attributable to the outrageous terms for reparations imposed on it. Had that not happened the Catholic Workers Party would have continued to be the most powerful political organisation in the country and they would never have allowed Hitler to come to power. It was only the dismantling of that party that allowed the Nazis to rise.
The League of Nations failed because the USA wouldn’t join it. The UN only attempted half what the League did. It needs a complete reform and democratisation. Until then we suffer. There are no more island nations. Until we admit we are sharing the same boat we will have huge problems.
None of these truths validates CAGW, of course. It is just another attempt, pretty well coordinated, to convince the public they have to be ‘worried’ about something big in order to overcome the natural tendency to be suspicious of their traditional enemies.
It is not going to work. They can’t trick the nations into unity. Unity has to be genuine. There is nothing wrong with unity. There is nothing wrong with preventing war and staying the hand of an oppressor. Lying blatantly to generate ‘unified action’ will never work as motivation because ever a few people revealing the truth of the matter is enough to undo the lies. A lot of that happens right here.
A surprising number of people still believe that a big lie told well enough can still accomplish what was done to create the Spanish American War, which was totally bogus, and the madness of both sides in WW II. The internet is truly liberating in many senses of the word.
Off topic , but in reply : one of the first and arguably most destructive acts of the UN , encouraged by Truman , was to impose a supremacist theocracy on the Mid East in the vacuum caused by the bankruptcy of the British Empire by WW2 . The echos of that act , anything but “conservative” , are seen in the continued extremist destruction and slaughter on all sides in the region even a lifetime later .
I love the idea of Saudi Arabia diversifying its economy. It’s a welfare state based on the sale of oil. They have no food, no cropland, no water, no manufacturing, no raw materials, and an unskilled/untrained/uneducated workforce. What else are they going to do?
They have Saudi Arabia Basic Industries (SABIC).
Except for some ‘executive’ positions, probably run top to bottom by expats.
Wage war?
Hopefully return to the shifting sands from whence they came. And the sooner the better. Saudi Arabia is a leech on the back of humanity.
And the U.S. is a predator on the lives of humanity.
Indeed. The GWOT is really the Saudi Arabian Civil War outsourced to other countries via Saudi Oil money. After 9-11 we shouldn’t have tried to hold Iraq together. (Bush gave it the old college try, but it was doomed from the start.) We should have gone to war with the Sauds, given the Holy Sites to the Hashemites, the oil fields to the gulf emirs, and let the desert take the rest. In lieu of that, I’ll take bottling up the GWOT back to within the borders of Saudi Arabia and a free bowl of popcorn to watch the proceedings.
If Figueres is so concerned about Co2 why doesn’t she just give Tony Abbott a call instead of burning thousands of gallons of finite fossil fuel to spread her hyperbolic drivel. I am prepared to believe that Figueres really doesn’t comprehend that private jets run on fossil fuel, my Wife couldn’t understand why the handle bars on the lawnmower were bent and broken simply because she shut the garage door on them.
Twenty years later it still doesn’t register.
And stop (right this minute) brewing that wonderfully yeasty Coopers Ale, and stop fermenting gorgeously quaffable Sauvignon Blancs . . . . and exporting them 10,500 miles from Melbourne to the UK so that us Brits can really enjoy them. And stop manufacturing powerfully tangy Cheese Twisties which are to die for. Oh, and stop letting off CO2 fire extinguishers to put out those bushfires. And . . . .
Sod the coal.
Next time Nepal or Indonesia suffer from a volcanic eruption tsunami, cyclone or an earthquake we should phone Figueres and say that we would like to help but a fully loaded C17 burns so much kerosene we are concerned that saving millions of lives will destroy the planet, what do you think?
I think Figueres would say:
(In private) “Let ’em die! If you save them this time, they’ll breed more little brown consumers.”
(In public.) “Think of the children.”
Sovereignty: – a country’s independent authority and the right to govern itself.
Democracy: – a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting.
They used to care, but, things have changed.
What if the Aussies don’t? Last time I checked, the UN doesn’t have any real power to back up its edicts– they depend on member nations to supply the actual power to make anything happen. Somehow I don’t expect the nations that actually have power to use their power to make Australia stop mining coal— especially when some of those nations are dependent on Australian coal.
The US has declared Climate Change the number 1 threat to the nation. How long before US drones start eliminating that threat globally?
The good news for the Ausies is that Obama will do the same thing about climate that he has done about everything else.
Just looked at the numbers Australias exports of resources including iron ore and coal are targeted to reach $284 billion by 2018/19 that is a serious amount of hard cash that Australia without any significant manufacturing industry has not a hope in hell of replacing or transforming its economy. But I do have a solution Australia should increase tourism and buy 50 airbus 380’s like Emirates and then they could hire Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger to encourage people to fly half way around the world to Australia instead of California since his home state is running out of water which shouldn’t really surprise anyone because that is what usually happens when you live in a desert. Again I return to the Natalie Bennett syndrome if these people had fewer brain cells they would need watering twice a day. This problem will never be resolved because the meek have already inherited the earth, for meek read thick.
” but the transition should be orderly, gradual and progressive.”
There is that nasty word “progressive”. Every time it is used it ends up being regressive for those to whom it was addressed.
Australia demanded in return that the UN diversify from their sole product of bullshit and providing highly paid positions in its bureaucracy to the offspring of corrupt elites.
“Australia demanded in return that the UN diversify from their sole product of bullshit and providing highly paid income tax-free positions in its bureaucracy to the offspring of corrupt elites.”
FTFY
How about gathering a few verifiably successful climate predictions under your belt before flapping your gums, woman.
Climate Predictions are successful if and only if they generate grants. Accuracy is nowhere in the definition of successful.
But first, every country in the EU must stop using coal. This means shutting down all coal-fired power stations, all steel mills and all cement plants. And the EU must also undertake to ban all of its imports of coal-generated electricity, all steel and components containing steel, as well as all cement products. Then, and only then, should Australia give due consideration to this asinine drivel.
Germany has been building new coal plants to replace the nuclear power plants that the Greens demanded they shut down.
Actually that is not quite true. The greens would have you believe that they closed the nuclear plants because of their concerns about Fukushima but they took that line to avoid having to admit that the real reason Germany had to close its nuclear plants was because its grid could not cope with the intermittence of wind coupled with the inability of nuclear to be ramped in the same way that gas and coal could be ramped when all of the German solar panels came online with absolute immediacy at about 10am in summer and went full blast until about 2pm meaning everything else had to be shut down very quickly and you cant do that with nuclear so it had to go under the guise of an intelligent response to Fukushima. California tried to ramp and nuclear facility and complete wrecked one of the reactors which made the plant unviable so Californians are now having to pay for the huge cost of decommissioning and at the same time losing one of their only viable Co2 free means of generating base load electricity. We forget that these greens are really very very smart they are capable of thinking way beyond the curve but of course diametrically opposed to reality. They have also tried to ramp hydro electric dams and that has turned very nasty as well caused real damage that now has to be measured on a daily basis, such good fun being green, create your own disasters, it all makes work for the working man to do, bring back Michael Flanders and Donald Swann would they have had fun with this bunch of moribund idiots.
All they need to do is stop subsidizing it – it’ll collapse on it’s own.
You guys are all for ditching energy subsidies, right?
Yeah, no. Based on the share of power they produce, renewables receive more than 12 times the subsidies fossil fuels receive. And that’s being generous.
Nice try.
Can you please list these alleged subsidies?
And no, not being taxed at 100% is not a subsidy.
If there is a mandated feed-in tariff above the wholesale market price for electricity, that’s a subsidy. You get paid cash you wouldn’t otherwise have received.
The last time Figueres was here PM Abbott suggested she was talking through her hat. I think he has Figures figured out! She hasn’t changed at all with her latest dictat.
Q: Diversify to what?
A1: Clean industry, like information technology, which needs massive amounts of electricity, which oops
A2: Tourism, which requires jet travel, which requires jet fuel, oops
A3: Light manufacturing, things like children’s toys, which require plastic, which requires petroleum, oops
A4: Agriculture, that’s a good clean industry, except for the chemicals, and the diesel, oops
Gotta love it when these know-nothing wannabes start spouting their prescriptions for the world, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
There job is to fly around the world saying things that sound good to them.
Actually making these ideas work is someone else’s problem.
B. Make dog food out of all the giant hopping rodents.
“The science is very clear”.
I hate the way they flat out lie like that. These lying global elitist scum really get my goat. I wish there was a way for the people of the world – or at least one major country – to clean these organisations out and put them in the trash where they belong. They have so much power. Who elected these guys to run the planet?
Nobody did. It’s not just a rhetorical question – investigating the origins of the UN is most enlightening and well worth taking the time to do, in order to more fully understand the true nature of the “climate debate”.
Solution? Get rid of the UN. Short of that, tell the UN to forcibly place a large volume of silica granules in its metaphorical anus.
Why does the phrase “Go pound sand” come to mind???
UnUN.
That’s very concise.
Solution?
1. Get rid of the UN, the EU, the World Bank and the IMF.
2. Each country abolishes the private banks operating in its territory and establishes, instead, a national bank which issues the currency of the nation and makes it available WITHOUT INTEREST, in the interest of the nation and its people and economy.
3. Economies recover and nations trade and prosper. Liberty flourishes across the globe. .
In the meantime, I think people should start getting interested in the Trans Pacific Partnership and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership TREATIES which are being negotiated IN SECRET, at the highest corporate and governmental levels, across the globe. So secret that the lengths even US senators have to go to in order to see these documents is astonishing – classified briefing, no cell phones, any notes to be handed in at the end of the document viewing. WTF?
I await the time Figueras and UN stop using fossil fuel at all. As long as they use it i believe they are happy that anyone care to dig or pump it up.
That’s why the UN communists want one world government. Them. Then they can issue dictats like the EU and send in their army when you don’t obey. If it was my country I would have arrested her for incitement to create economic damage and thrown her out.
Read the list:
http://www.trilateral.org/download/file/TC_list_6-13.pdf
Read the mission:
• Elimination of private property and wealth accumulation
• Replacing traditional education with workforce training
• Micromanaging all energy distribution and consumption
• Driving people to live in a limited number of cities and off of rural land
• Enforcing a balance between nature’s resources and man’s consumption of them.
Are you thinking that this list is vaguely familiar? You should because it represents the modern manifestation of programs like Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, Smart Grid, Cap And Trade, Climate Change, Common Core, massive surveillance operations and a whole lot more. All of this has been brought to us by the machinations of the Trilateral Commission and its members since 1973, and it is all part of its master plan to completely replace capitalism with Technocracy. This is their “New International Economic Order”
While you bicker amongst yourselves, the Technocrats, e.g. the U.N, will control humanity. Coal is an example.
Well said. I didn’t mention the Trilateral Commission, CFR (where Hillary said she come to get told what to do, no less)
You get rid of the MONEY power (or at least put it in responsible hands), you get rid of most of the problems.
Pol Pot’s year zero
It would be nice to see her, and her friends, and her family, all hanging out in Saudi Arabia during and after the Saudi “economic transition”.
Once the Saudi transition is significantly underway I would even pay for her airfare (one way of course) to get there.
End, not ended
UK – Apocalypse – may be – not just now.
Exit polls – not always reliable; like Sturgeon the Scottish would-be Puppet-Master says, ‘Take with a big pinch of salt’.
But –
‘Tories close to a majority’ on their own – reported.
Twelve hours yet before the fug of jaw clears, I reckon.
Goodnight!
Auto
People want a referendum regarding the EU, and I can fully understand why.
Funny. Now people are asking for a referndum. Heath took the UK in to the “Common Market” in 1973, without a referndum. Then in 1975, there was one, all based on political lies (No surprise there). The answer was “Yes”. So now the UK want’s out? Good on them! Maybe the Greeks, Italians and the Spanish can build their own economy without having to survive on handouts from the UK, Germany and France.
sarc Now that “Patches” (the 42 million dollar man) is in the caboose for touching up the staff at IPCC,, the little “o” has a new tame backup singer. As expected she only has one note to warble….Hey, Figgies loved the early Star Trek shocking mauve outfit shown in your earlier video,,
You must have access to the Paramount wardrobe department? If you spot The Joker costume when you are rummaging around (hint try something green next?) send it to your boss, we could all do with a laugh..
“in the caboose” — I think you meant “calaboose”, an old slang for “jail”.
A “caboose” is an enclosure at the end of “a long train of abuses” (as the Declaration of Independence puts it). Come to think of it …
Yep the science is as clear as coal. Shut the hell up crazy old lady.
Why does anyone at all bother with the likes of Figueras and our own similar members of the chattering class?
I can here the Aussie response.
Two signs at the entrance to the Aussie mines –
“We will stop mining coal tomorrow.”
“Free beer tomorrow.”
And if Australia stops mining coal, then we shall have to cut down even more American forests. Drax, one of Europe’s largest coal power stations, is transitioning into a wood-burning stove – burning American trees by the million. And if the rest of Europe follows suit, we could turn the US into a wasteland….
Drax the destroyer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drax_power_station
Drax the destroyer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drax_the_Destroyer
R
The Aussies I’ve known have been a likeable bunch with a hard- headed independent streak a mile wide. Figueres’ dingbat pronouncement about coal mines down under will become the subject of many jokes and will be met with a resolute refusal to comply, along with a colorful reply to the UN along the lines of molon labe (come and take ’em.)
Ms. Figueres needs to go back to Costa Rica where her family is in control, unlike the rest of the world. Here father and brother both were president of Costa Rica at different times. Ruling by decree may work there. Not in the USA, Aussie or the english-speaking union (at least not yet).
How many divisions does the UN have?
Ahhhh Tom Arup, another climate alarmist at the SMH. You will notice now that articles published by Arup, and Hannam, do not allow comments on their articles because every “fact” they publish can be easily refuted. Best to ignore Arup and Hannam IMO.
Anytime someone like Figueres makes such an obviously stupid, public statement, be assured of two things:
1) She’s a little tiny nothing, by her own devices and knows it
2) She’s one of the world’s biggest brown- nosers, trying to curry favor with those whom she considers her betters
Woolworths (Supermarket chain) have just made redundant 800 people. Holden (GM), Ford *AND* now Toyota will all stop making cars in 2016. That’s a lot of people, 10’s of thousands in fact, out of work in 2016. So election winning hopes for the LNP are not looking rosy. I doubt there will be another ALP/Green coalition in 2016 based on their 6 year history from 2007, but there is nowt queer as voting folk!
There was an election in the UK today. I did not vote. You can vote for the lesser of two (or more) evils, but it’s still voting for evil, right?
Re. voting, from the deeply insightful and spot-on-the-money George Carlin (44 seconds):
If Australia does stop exporting coal, China will simply ram up it’s interests in other countries. As I said before, while I was in Ethiopia in 2006/2007, I met up with geologists working for the Chinese exporing east Africa for resources. China is not backing away from coal/oil/gas anytime soon!
I tell you what, if Christiana Figueres organises a mass suicide of surplus to requirements UN bureaucrats and oversees its successful implementation then maybe Australia might be impressed enough to follow suit. If we don’t all starve to death the Chinese and the Indians at least will simply wipe us out and take over and frankly, who would blame them.
“UN demands Australia stop mining coal”. Australian coal goes mainly to poorer countries, giving the poor cheap energy. The UN is against this?? Speaking as an Australian who has lived and seen the benefits of cheap energy South East Asia.
Ruin
by Three Mile Pilot
“Demanding” rats eh.
The UN also wants 90% of the Earth’s population to stop breathing, as part of Agenda 21. That will directly stop almost 8% of man’s CO2 emissions in his breath. The UN is just a bunch of communist nutters.
Tony I think you are being very polite. We also exhale oxygen. If we didn’t we couldn’t do a successful CPR. On a lighthearted side, we have lots of indoor plants, especially during winter when I bring in lots of mine into an unheated house, usually stable at 15C, the lowest is 10C. Horticulturalists know, indoor plants also use up CO2 and exhale oxygen in return.
I think we better keep China in our good books, but thanks Eric for the article.
“The science is very clear,”
There is only one problem with this, the science is not clear.
What’s Aussie expression for “bugger off!”
Bugger off, LOL. Or get on yer ‘orse/bike and piss off – Eff off! That’s common though, so a more civilised answer to someone so ignorant, that might be better digested by them is ‘Really, would you cite your references please as we believe you are being grossly misled’. I don’t know why they bother to mention this type of tripe. Must be paid for it, because it is not only stupid and politically inspired, but coal ain’t that bad. The water they wash it in is a very excellent (and expensive) land organically approved fertilizer. Anyway China has its own coal fields, that are affected in areas by uncontrolled surface fires, that do more to pollute the atmosphere than a year’s emissions from all the cars and trucks in America. They can be put out but it costs billions to do it. India and Indonesia have the same problems.
“You represent a huge potential to lead the world into a very healthy economic diversification path. You haven’t figured out how to do that yet but that, my friends, is your homework.” Figueros
The Aussies have homework. Perhaps they can write love songs?
Hey, true blue
Don’t say you’ve gone
Say you’ve knocked off for a smoko
And you’ll be back later on
Hey, true blue
Hey, true blue
Give it to me straight, face to face
Are you really disappearing
Just another dying race
Hey, true blue
True blue, is it me and you?
Is it mum and dad, is it a cockatoo?
Is it standing by your mate?
When he’s in a fight or just Vegemite
True blue, I’m asking you
Hey, true blue
Can you bear the load? Will you tie it up with wire
Just to keep the show on the road?
Hey, true blue
Hey, true blue
Now be fair dinkum, is your heart still there?
If they sell us out like sponge cake, do you really care?
Hey, true blue
Read more: John Williamson – True Blue Lyrics | MetroLyrics
Let her preach that kind of nonsense in Saudi Arabia. Wonder what the reaction would be. I am sure our friends from down-under will take it in stride, share a six pack and get on with their business.
Ms Figueres is sending the wrong message to the wrong people. She needs to talk to the Chinese owners of the coal.
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A massive Chinese company that received a $25 million government grant to turn Latrobe Valley brown coal into briquettes [because we don’t know how] is looking at selling the resource back to Victoria’s power plants.
Allan Farrar, director of the company’s Australian subsidiary, told The Age it was exploring selling the brown coal briquettes it will make at a new demonstration plant within Australia as well as exporting them to China.
The project is backed by Shanghai Electric Power, a state-owned Chinese company valued about $1.7 billion.
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/chinese-company-may-sell-latrobe-valley-brown-coal-briquettes-locally-20140902-10b2un.html
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In related news, it’s been a particularly bad hair day for UK climate liars Miliband and Davey, and the day’s barely started over there.
The UNHCR takes us to task over our Refugee Boat Policy. Compare the number of illegal boat arrivals and drownings off the shores of Northern Australia as to the number of people drowning in the Mediterranean. It use to be just as bad, but we’ve learnt not to listen to the UN. It is tough forcing back boats, but appearing humane was much worse.
What the UN climate chief is demanding is that Australia sacrifice a key export industry and forces countries dependent on coal to go elsewhere. For what? Affordable energy has lifted people out of poverty, and now the UN is saying no more.
The UN was not put in place to dabble in fake science. Why doe it not go back to its proper job and see to the elimination of terrorist states like ISIL that murder indiscriminately and terrorise the rest of the world?
Answer it is easier and more profitable to run scams like global warming, or the now switch sold product of climate change triggered by the non occurrence of that theoretical temperature change.
Figueras: follow the career and the money …
http://www.figueresonline.com/CFO_English_Long.pdf
“Principal Climate Change Advisor, ENDESA Latinoamérica”
“Senior Advisor, C-Quest Capital, carbon finance company focusing on programmatic CDM investments”
This is the most telling comment I’ve seen . Thanks .
And in Australia, the MSM are up to their usual garbage. Just read some of the comments.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/climate-change-a-unled-ruse-says-tony-abbotts-business-adviser-maurice-newman-20150508-ggwuzt.html?logout=true
just another reason for Australia to tell the UN to stick it’s treaties where the sun don’t shine. Up your arse (Oz spelling for ass) Christiana!
“Ms Figures doesn’t have any specific advice about how Australia should fill the gigantic hole in her finances, which decommissioning the coal mining industry would create. Perhaps Ms Figures feels her job is simply to give us directives, to tell us what must be. The responsibility, the details of how her directives will be implemented, is someone elses problem.”
Sounds like she got her directive from Marine Officers, they never explain how to do what it is that they want you to, they just say “I would LIKE a bunker on that hill” and then leave it to the troops to figure out how to get the bunker built.
Just re-brand it as Indian coal or China coal……and continue on as before or increase it.
UN Science = “There is no space for new coal” and “We must all eat bugs.”
Real Science = “Say What?”
A Tony Abbot minister colleague has struck back against Figueres’ UN eco-imperialism:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32639813
Did she also suggest Australia stop having people on the continent as well? She is a notorious population control proponent.
Australia should counter the UN with its own carbon-offset proposal: “We’ll stop mining coal when you stop shoveling methane-rich BS.”
I suppose what upsets me is how the UN fancies itself as a government. It isn’t. Not one single member of the UN was elected by the people. It is a diplomatic organization, not a legislative body. Our representative is called “Ambassador to the UN”. What bothers me so much is how so many people have come to view the UN as some sort of body promulgating “international law” and regulations when not one single member of that body was elected by us nor can they be removed by us. They are responsible to nobody. The UN is exactly the sort of thing that many people have given their lives to prevent.
To Kitefreak May 8, 2015 at 10:54 am
Heh, If I only could rate you! I love stand-up made by George Carlin!
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I’ve already read this message:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-32639813
“Mr Newman chairs Prime Minister Tony Abbott’s Business Advisory Council and is a former chairperson of the Australian Stock Exchange.
He wrote in an opinion article for The Australian newspaper on Friday: “It’s a well-kept secret, but 95% of the climate models we are told prove the link between human CO2 emissions and catastrophic global warming have been found, after nearly two decades of temperature stasis, to be in error.””
It’s all about money.
Christine Figures thinks the Chinese communist system is ideal to implement global warming policies. She has also indicated that steps are now in progress to replace the economic model of the last 150 years i.e. capitalism. I could go on about this evil thinking woman but I won’t.
If the world caves in to the United Nations and its new world order, in which AGENDA 21 must be implemented, then we will have kissed goodbye to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity as the arrogant, ambitious and unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism reigns supreme.
Come December 2015 in Paris, it is vitally important that western democracies demonstrate that democracy must reign supreme, capitalism must not be destroyed, the market economy must always exist and wealth generation is vital for the benefit of mankind.
Reblogged this on Watching The Nation.
huh? Isn’t coal gaia’s solar power storage system? Coal also happens to be a very low cost supply of electrical power and is plentiful. These UN people must be from a different planet……