Via iHateTheMedia, here are a few of the predictions made on the first Earth Day. Don’t these sound like the predictions today that fail, like the 50 million climate refugees by 2010 followed by the moving of the goalposts to 2020?
“We have about five more years at the outside to do something.”
• Kenneth Watt, ecologist
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day
“Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
• Peter Gunter, professor, North Texas State University
“Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
• Life Magazine, January 1970
“At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
“By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
“Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”
• Sen. Gaylord Nelson
and this classic:
“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
• Kenneth Watt, Ecologist
In celebration of Earth Day today and promote his climate change agenda, Obama hops on Air Force 1 to the Everglades and proceeds to burn about 10,000 gallons of jet fuel in the process.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/04/22/more-than-9000-gallons-of-fuel-to-be-used-on-air-force-one-for-obamas-trip-to-everglades-on-earth-day/
don’t get m started
I heard that with sea level rise, the Everglades is 35 feet under water . . . I hope O is on a boat.
I hope he’s NOT…;-)
No no that is about 2.4 mm/year.
Everglades
Harlan’s Howard’s tune performed by the Kingston Trio
Columbia Records, 1960
‘Not too much tie-in, but it’s a nice song…
Capitol Records, that is.
The mistakes are all there, waiting to be made
–Savielly Tartakower
I like hops.
Processed?
In beer?
In celebration of Earth Day today, and to counter the doom and gloom, I pointed out that the biggest climate catastrophe for polar bears happened during the Last Ice Age, with a map of Ice Age sea ice you won’t find anywhere else. It may surprise you how bad it was.
http://polarbearscience.com/2015/04/21/polar-bears-barely-survived-the-sea-ice-habitat-changes-of-the-last-ice-age-evidence-suggests/
All uphill from there. Obama’s got his work cut out for him on this issue, no wonder he didn’t chose to highlight polar bears.
Dr. Susan Crockford, zoologist
I recalled reading about 70,000 year-old polar bear fossils from England, but in searching found this 2011 genetic study on 50 Ka Irish fossils:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/8622987/Polar-bears-traced-back-to-Britain.html
Seems to me though that reanalysis of polar bear evolution placed their origin back before the Eemian, earlier having been thrown off due to interbreeding with brown bears on Bering Sea islands.
In any case, it appears that even long before the LGM, polars were forced to seek refuge in the British Isles.
All they ate was gateau from Iceland. Only British people will ‘get’ that.
gateau from Iceland
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they sailed to sea in a jolly gateau while eating a delicious bateau. its all french to me.
Happy St George’s Day to my fellow Englishmen here (and ladies).
Thanks Susan.
Wow, perennial ice in the Gulf of Alaska? That is surprising. I can see it north of the Aleutians but this takes me aback.
HM The Queen is known to hop onto a train. She certainly doesn’t have the massive motorcades accompanying the POTUS. How many people and other aircraft accompanied AF 1?
I can’t remember which of the past POTUS visited the UK and stayed at Buck House but before the event the US security types wanted vast and expensive upgrades to the place to make it safe (fortress). The Queen said no it’s fine for me. Then again she hasn’t done so much to upset the world although various PM’s have done their best.
James Bull
I decided to celebrate earth day by dropping off the grid and run everything on my shiny new 300 HP diesel generator!
What? At least I’m off the grid….
He’s actually paying homage to his hero, Lenin, on the anniversary of his birth. Commies unite against corporate greed to nationalize all land, industry and corporations, becoming the first country to legalize abortion and homosexuality, no fault divorce, free education and universal heathcare. Most famous for his quote, “a lie told often enough becomes the truth.” Happy B-day Vlad!
do as I say, not as I do. leadership uses to mean taking the lead. now it means dictates from on high, with the biggest sinners telling everyone else not to sin.
The best part about Ehrlich is that these days he’s running around telling all stoopid microphoneholders that his predictions from The Population Bomb all came true.
Together with the fact that Ehrlich is German for honest.
I applaud his commitment to his predictions. He is not satisfied that one or two came through, or 10%, or half. Nope. He claims every single one of them did. It’s brilliant.
And Algor is an old medical term for “deathly cold”
My favorite quote, not included above, is Dr. David Viner March 2000 “School children just won’t know what snow is.”
Meanwhile, the climate tipping point has been moved out to 2040.
It might just be that Dr Viner didn’t actually know what snow is and it was all a terrible misunderstanding and he isn’t treally a completely self important moron.
Either that or in this huge global village there are an awful lot of idiots to keep track of.
Pethaps ‘climate science’ is just a euphamism for occupational therapy for the global village idiots.
It might just be that Dr Viner didn’t actually know what snow is ”
“Um, I am gonna go with “Self-important lack-wit ninny who talks out of his butt-hole without thinking for three seconds about what he is saying”
Pethaps ‘climate science’ is just a euphamism for occupational therapy for the global village idiots.
Ha ha!!
I’m confident they’ll find the tipping point. After all, the best scientists taxpayer money can buy are on the job.
Well that’s not saying much, is it. If that’s all they can buy maybe we are safer than I thought.
I am spraying every aerosol can I have today as my contribution.
Well, that sums it up perfectly. The trouble is nothing has changed, not even those voices who uttered those failed predictions.
Actually things have gotten better. India now grows enough to feed itself as do many other countries, the air and water here are cleaner and we never entered that new ice age that Kenneth Watt was banging on about.
These quotes and many others need to be spread far and wide among warmist believers who are still young to show them how similar todays doom mongers predictions are. And point out that people like John Holdren infest the Obama White House spreading their new failed predictions of warming.
When you can tie idiocy like this to names and faces of the past who have changed to warmist catastrophic babble then you can make a lot of converts back to reality.
And why have they gotten better?
And why have they gotten better?
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because India has replaced dung with coal as its primary energy source.
I’m with nifelf: Things are a lot better. I graduated with a water and pollution degree and worked in that industry for 30 years and then went to farming for another 15. Things have gotten amazingly better. I was coming in from rubbing down horses the day they landed on the moon. The technology for water and waste treatment has also advanced from horse and buggy to space technology and microchips. There is great reason for hope in the world when you look back to the predictions of 1970 and how far we have come. The politics are the same as they were 2000 years ago, but technology might save us from the useful idiots.
“… look back to the predictions of 1970 and how far we have come”
Still no flying car. I’m thankful, Z kills
Paul at 4:47
About that flying car —
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Small-Helicopter-Lands-on-Capitol-Grounds-299870111.html
More like a flying tricycle.
Why don’t these people get called to account for the stupid things that they say in public. Just what does a scientist have to do before their off-the-cuff guesses are treated with contempt rather than as wisdom?
Because the media aren’t doing their job Max. They’re pretty left of center and quite like the thought of governments taking total control over citizens and making us rubes do the things that we’re too stupid to figure out on our own.
The “media” is doing its job perfectly. It is a business that’s paying sky-high. Consider, for example, the many, many times over millionaires Jon Stewart or Rush Limbaugh, both of them delivering exact same crap even if under different brand names.
I have those problems licked Brute.
All of my radios have a useful app called “Tuning”.
I have learned how to use if to not need to listen to any of that crap you mentioned, and a whole lot of other crap besides. Or I can listen if I want to.
I’m sure you can get your radio to run the tuning app, so you can escape the crap.
I wonder how many Pinocchios the press will give Obama for trying to scare Floridians with the rising oceans taking away their big income from tourists? (You know he knows he’s being dishonest because his natural tendency is to be against big income – not trying to promote it.)
Brute
I have a hard time believing you actually listen to Rush. A liberal friend got me listening to Rush a few years ago, and I catch the show when not too busy at work. I don’t know if I hear the crap you’re talking about, but I would love to be enlightened. Please feel free to elaborate. Thanks.
@george e. smith
Same here.
@Glenn999
Pick any of Limbaugh’s “topics” and try to explain it here. You will find plenty of support from some commenters (i.e., those ranting about diseased Mexicans deciding US elections and how they should be “snipered”) and, hopefully, you will also see what a ridiculous man Limbaugh is.
Voters are the problem, for some reason they are suckers for negativity about humans. Factors include teaching in schools and the biased media, but ultimately voters are responsible.
From what friends tell me, I consider Rush Limbaugh to be “variable”. He does change his positions on some things, which may be a good sign. But like Ann Coulter and the disappointing Michelle Malkin he lacks a basic understanding of what made the US and like countries productive and peaceful – individual freedom supported by defense and justice systems. Thus they are control-minded, just less so than the neo-Marxists (such as Obama and most Democratic Party politicians and their hangers on like Al Sharpton).
” Just what does a scientist have to do before their off-the-cuff guesses are treated with contempt ”
That’s an easy one:
Speak frankly and truthfully about the dastardly shenanigans of the warmistas, and/or try to get an honest paper on climate published.
BTW For those of you, like me, who forgot when the first “Earth Day” was, it was in 1970, the same year Nixon formed the USEPA.
It was Lenin’s 100 birthday. Coincidence? I don’t think so.
I do remember earth day 1975. The local news crew came to our school. They had us spread paper debris around the grass area in front of the school. They did their staged on-camera spiel while we walked around in the background and picked up the “garbage”. They had to do three takes because we kept moving to close to the camera as we picked up the “garbage” … we wanted to be an integral part of the show too.
Things haven’t changed. Media is still mostly lying hype. The useful idiots still want to be part of the show … I wonder how Mann got his start.
Back in the day there were good reasons for worrying about the environment. Many things needed cleaning up, especially city air. Polluters were shameless. That changed dramatically over the next 30 years and then there wasn’t much to chase. So things went from sublime to ridiculous. Now we have nuclear power stations emitting less radioactivity than the stones along the road and they are labelled ‘polluting’.
The social pollution now emanates from the mouths of fanatics who want to keep the funding flowing. Too bad that energy is not put into educating children and bringing clean water to slums. Something useful.
Nice coal fire burning in the grate.
I picked up my wife from work to have lunch today and while waiting for her to come out I kept the car running listening to the radio with the a/c on. It was a pleasant 10 minutes and I was very comfortable. You just gotta love modern technology.
I sure hope POTUS wasn’t watching.
Nope, he was in his nice big 747 with the engines running. Maybe even getting his [hair] cut…
[Mod] should be hair not har
[And if his rabbit were poorly trimmed, would you declare, ” Har, har, he hacked his hare’s hair?” .mod]
Andrew, that’s a 20 year old 747. Not the most fuel effective … especially not the way it has been used in recent years
It maybe a 20 year old frame, but I would suggest the engines would be fairly new and more efficient that those fitted when it was shipped from the factory.
My thermometer says that at my house in Sarasota the high was 88℉, I think that is fairly accurate. It is well sited and is fairly well confirmed by the reading at SRQ a few miles to the north.
I sit in my car quite a bit, and I will never sit in it at 88℉ without A.C. So I do that a lot.
thank you for your CO2
I heated my hot tub/spa up to 110 degrees, in case I feel like sitting in it for a few minutes before bed tonight.
At 6′ x 6′ x 3′, it is about 108 cubic feet, or nearly 900 gallons.
I leave it for everyone’s homework to calculate the magnitude of my wasteful ways, in BTUs, CO2 footprint, about of time it will take the earth to repair this assault on her ecology,and whatever other scandalous sounding metric anyone can think of.
@Menicholas, I hope you were alone in that tub, if you were there with your wife it may have led to another CO2 producing, energy wasting, food consuming (BUT very happy and well rounded ) human!
Menicholas – don’t do that if you are pregnant.
So Ken Watt was expecting world temps to drop 11 degrees in 30 years.
What was he expecting!, the sun to become one huge sunspot.
l don’t think it got that bad even during the YD.
Be charitable, it is difficult to forecast, especially about the future.
It would have been nice to have dates associated with those quotes.
“The first Earth Day” is a big hint.
The article clearly states the quotes were made on the “first Earth Day”, which was in 1970. Click on the iHatethemedia link for more information.
Here’s a link to actual newspaper stories and links to the scientific organizations that “endorsed the ice age scare”. https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/1970s-ice-age-scare/
The article did not clearly state the quotes were made in 1970. It would have been nice if it had because I had no idea when the first Earth Day happened, nor do I care.
The first Earth Day was held on the 100th anniversary of the birthday of Vladimir Lenin (who, by the way, had the same one word slogan as the Obama campaign…FORWARD.)
Decide for yourself if you believe that this was an unintended coincidence.
“here are a few of the predictions made on the first Earth Day”
4/22/1970
The head post would be improved if it said
It is amazing some of these geniuses are still around and listened to by some.
‘ Guess there was a consensus on that, too.
To be honest I vastly prefer Andy Warhol’s tomato soup can.
Your vast preferences notwithstanding, Warhol was a hack artist with connections but no talent. Picasso at least had talent. He also had the honesty in a few candid moments to admit that he was a charlatan:
http://www.vinearts.org/picasso.html
Warhol’s sketches:
https://www.google.com/search?q=warhol%27s+sketches&rlz=1C1BLWB_enUS555US556&es_sm=122&biw=1152&bih=653&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=BmA4VbavIcOrogTMjYDwDw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
Most, perhaps all of Warhol’s famous work is graphic art – silk-screened photographs in wild colors, but at least there was something to see, unlike Pollock’s dribbles.
At first blush this might seem way off topic, but the direct connections are fraud, and mind-bending.
And if the guys downstream can talk about .50s, I guess I can slip in a word or two about art.
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There is a direct connection between the fraud of so-called artists like Picasso and Warhol and this fraud of global warming. The common thread is that we have a generation of well-off but basically ignorant and credulous people who were sent to expensive colleges and then inherited corporate, university and government leadership positions. They were never taught critical thinking. Maybe in another age most of them would never have gone to college. Instead of thinking for themselves their guide in life is whether it is cool, whether it is popular, and what do the “high preists” in the field say. If the art critics tell them that an obvious fraud like Picasso is great art they go along with it. If the corrupted scientist tells them its never going to snow again they bray with the other asses.
The right question to ask is why people keep listening to them.
Because they WANT to? I’ve come to the conclusion that about 25% of the people on this earth are miserable because they WANT to be. And they make it their mission in life to make the rest of us miserable. Laugh at their sorry asses and don’t let them do it.
Because it seems to be a hard wired trait that humans crave certainty about the future, so they’ll listen to anyone touted as an expert. I recommend Dan Gardner’s “Future Babble” for a layman’s summary of the work of Phillip Tetlock. Tetlock tracked the predictions of over 200 experts over a period of more than 20 years. He found that while experts may know a lot about their field as it is now (that’s why they’re experts), when it comes to making predictions about the future, you’d be just as well off with a dart-throwing chimp.
JCR says:
“Because it seems to be a hard wired trait that humans crave certainty about the future, so they’ll listen to anyone touted as an expert.”
If that were the case then those people would greet predictions bright future and healthy environment/climate with good cheer. They don’t! They only want to hear and believe predictions of disaster.
They’re miserable wretches.
Because many suffer from the “listen to anyone who says we’re causing our own demise, no matter how wrong they end up being” syndrome; the key being that the doomsayer is projecting an image of: “we have to save the planet from ourselves”. As long as they keep doing that, it doesn’t matter how wrong they are, they’ll still receive attention.
They’d make P. T. Barnum proud.
Agree, Dave. That is why Hollywood is so radically leftist (i.e.) green. They crave even more attention.
I don’t know if there is a general discussion board around here, but I’ve always wondered why I don’t see the people who post their findings here in places other than these types of blogs? I would love to see the great folks who post all the myriad charts and data on this site jump in over at CNN and respond to John Sutter’s request to vote on the first story he’ll report on in his new series, “2 Degrees” by deluging the discussion with good answers that include references and data to people there who still bring up the “97%”.
I would do it myself, but I’d just get it all wrong and make things worse.
Well I don’t know about CNN but here in Germany, the important media like Der Spiegel censor relentlessly. So it’s not much use. They have a quickly diminishing horde of believers left over there, and even those start to correct the stupid alarmism of the Spiegel Mitarbeiter collective now. Just a few days ago they reported that – shock, horror – California will start desalination now to provide water. Journalist tried his best to make that sound catastrophic because desalination costs energy and we can’t have that now can we and the water will cost 15 cents a cubic meter!
To which the remaining commenters said, but that’s pretty cheap, here in Bremen it costs 1.99 EUR a cubic meter, so what’s not to like. And I mean, Bremen, that city and its residents are as leftist as the Khmer Rouge. Still – remnants of common sense even there!
Is Bremen really like that? I’m sad to hear that. They have some beautiful music venues there and I have many wonderful live concerts in my collection that were recorded in Bremen. I have always wanted to visit just because of that!
Back to the CNN topic… the video that’s attached to Sutter’s article is unbelievably alarmist. And I think I just saw the Hockey Stick!
Helsinki, Finland: €2.42/cubic meter. About half of that is earmarked to sewage water handling.
To put that on map, it’s $3194/acre-feet.
Finland is very resourceful what comes to clean raw water.
I think you slipped the digit. The only article I found (http://panteres.com/2015/04/14/seawater-desalination-to-alleviate-drought-in-california/) indicated the cost would be $1.60 more per cubic meter. Still less than Bremen or Helsinki, but that puts the price of water between Tier 3 ($1.44/cu meter) and Tier 4 ($2.26/cu meter) in my district (IRWD). That pricing includes the pumping surcharge, but not the sewer or service fees, which are fixed.
At $0.15/cu meter, it would be a steal!
Christopher…most of the time when people DO post those charts and links to WUWT or other sites that include skeptical data, their posts get deleted or their accounts get blocked. There really isn’t any kind of “free speech” at some sites anymore, unless you agree with what is being said.
True indeed.
” but I’ve always wondered why I don’t see the people who post their findings here in places other than these types of blogs?”
I do it fairly often. In fact I spent lots of time arguing droves of them (warmistas) to a standstill on multiple sites several years ago. But I got sick of it, and had to stop commenting online at all, except to people I know, on social media.
But recently I got the bug again, and found this site. I followed links to Tony Heller’s and Paul Homewood’s blogs when I got wind of the “altered” historical climate data, and that was and is it for me.
It all snapped into focus. For a long time I knew something was very fishy, but I could not put my finger on it. I knew that that hockey stick crap was pure BS the second I saw it, but I really did not understand how the data was being so corrupted. I knew it was, but not how.
I had figured it was mostly insufficient UHI corrections, and discrepancy with the old recording equipment and the new stuff that came online in1995 or so.
Now my blood boils when I consider the depth and scope of the lies being foisted off on us all.
I knew that CAGW was wrong, but I balked at calling it a sc@m, ho@x, or outright fraud.
It is now clear that is exactly what it has become, even if it started out as well meaning but incorrect theorizing. Even that is looking less likely for at least some of these guys.
Why? Mark Twain summed it up well:
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
Yeah… {sigh}… I dig.
@ RT Turner
“Why”
Because the general populace is being mushroomed, that is why.
It is too serious.
The endgame for the alarmists is not fun and games.
It is more than an argument.
It is a national scandal, and theft and deception on a scale which is downright scary.
Paino – It’s called Tips & Notes, in the menu line.
I remember as a schoolboy, in 1970 or so, being herded into the school gym to watch a film that told us that in 15 years the water would be so polluted there would nothing to drink and the air would be so polluted there would be nothing to breathe. These “experts” don’t actually “know” ANYTHING.
That’s why they work to make sure the next generation knows even less.
And don’t forget in the mid to late 70’s a group of ’eminent’ scientists created a world wide warning that pollution (meaning a more real type of pollution) was increasing to the level that it was now blocking out the sunlight and heat reaching the earth. This was going to cause dramatic temperature DECREASES and eventually initiate the next ice age.
Where they wrong or, are the current AGW scientists wrong? Likely they are all wrong. Again!
In the end truth arises like a flower, but man needs lies, not truth, for in truth the lie is more profitable.
Happy Earth Day
I think I’ll cook up some polar bear steaks on my charcoal grill. However, since it’s so cold here in Northern Indiana (42 degrees ) I’ll have to sit in my SUV with the engine and heater running.
/sarc
Look, when the death of a Twinkie has been confirmed, I’ll change my cuisine.
Till then, I’ll just enjoy. 😉
Twinkies were on life support not all that long ago… you may want to have an alternative plan… just in case.
Just say’n and playing but… per:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2015/04/15/twinkie-billion-dollar-comeback-hostess-metropoulos-apollo-jhawar/
“…The new factory is bright and clean. Tight rows of Twinkies march along the $20 million Auto Bake system with the precision of Soviet soldiers in a May Day parade. Yellow robotic arms, which look like they should be welding Teslas rather than boxing Twinkies, stack snacks with hypnotic rhythm.”
They ain’t dead yet 🙂
True and thank goodness. I was just remembering the near disaster in 2012.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2012/11/16/hostess-twinkies-ding-dongs-wonder-bread-going-out-of-business/1708409/
But they don’t taste the same.
Problem wasn’t with Twinkies (by which I mean market demand for the thing called Twinkie), it was with the union truck drivers delivering the things to the store.
CNN needs your help in choosing what story about climate catastrophe to report first
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/21/opinions/sutter-climate-two-degrees/index.html
They have videos and front page graphics with big fonts and everything, trying to make it as scary as possible.
Now it shouldn’t be construed as being against taking care of nature (in a sense of traditional environmentalism without the extreme elements), but more like keeping ecosystems healthy, clamping down on the type of emissions that produce pea-soup smog and black rivers and, yes, raise the atmospheric CO2 level.
Let us not forget chief UK alarmist Myles Allen
“Myles Allen first hit the headlines when a research project that he was involved with issued a press release (26th Jan 2005) predicting that temperatures could rise by 11° C even if the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is limited to only double the level before the Industrial Revolution.”
http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=81
The first of many naff prediction by Prof Allen! No wonder he appears so often on the BBC!
“If present trends continue”….well, at least, thank God…..science has progressed past this
NOT!
The Earth Day Dialogs – Episode IV : The Rebellion Begins
John
Wow. This Ken Watt character has surely disappeared into the woodwork by now? Jeez, with such a predictive track record he must surely be unemployed? It’s ok to be wrong – but to shout loudly about it, then reverse tack completely, and STILL be completely wrong surely demonstrates the (in)competence of a complete Bozo IMHO!
Ok, I guess he must be a science nobody in the big scheme of things, but even so, to call or even consider oneself a scientist with such a track record is like extremely serious FACEPALM material?
Professor emeritus, U.C. Davis. Still has an office and phone number listed. Imagine all the students he damaged/indoctrinated.
But, Physics. I mean, and then there’s physics, right?
When I first entered the University in the early 60s, if you were an idler or just needed a couple of A’s to graduate you would run to the sociology and psychology depts. and register for several classes. No work to do and almost everyone got an A or B.
Nowadays, I understand you would run to environmental science and then to sociology. In psychology you might have to calculate a mean and know the definition of a median. Too hard.
Leonard
Congratulations. You are the first human being on the planet to accuse psychologists of understanding anything about statistics.
Interestingly, when I studied physical geography, meteorology, and climatology in college, these classes were in the same college as behavioral sciences.
The general distribution requirements for a degree in either of them were not the requirements for a science degree.
I had already taken so many classes in other branches of natural sciences and math that a lot of the credits I had would be worthless for a degree in meteorology or climatology. The people in those majors did not need to take calculus, let alone engineering calc. Or physics. Or chemistry. Or geology. Nope. Statistics, and the GDRs for a social science degree.
That did not change until relatively recently.
(I was not about to take a degree that was not from the College of Natural Science, so I had to move along…those classes became electives)
BTW, I do not recall taking a single class that did not take hard work and a lot of studying.
Even Phys Ed classes like tennis or water skiing was no gimme.
Are you seriously saying that at California state universities, you could get an A without doing hard work and knowing some at least SOMETHING inside out?
“Failed Earth Day Predictions” ~ title of post
If you use honest data (real raw data, and not output from computer games) we would be hard pressed to find any prediction that the alarmists have made that has come true. I can not think of one off the top of my head.
I will say that the alarmists of the 70’s who warned of a new “ice age” (we are in one now are we not?) were more believable because this interglacial is old enough to have run its course. Perhaps in a century or two we will see much colder temperatures. But it will not be because of mankind’s industrial output.
Religious types (like today’s alarmists) have always screamed that the gods are mad as hell because of mankind’s “sinful ways” and will zap our behinds with bad weather. Today’s climate “scientists” are no better than the witch-doctor of old.
If we go into a new Ice Age after the next 200 years or so, and it is after the Oil has diminished to unusable levels, It will still be touted as Proof of the CO2-Fossil Fuel_ Global Climate Change meme was correct all along…
See, We told you so…No more Fossil Fuel use, No more Global Warming, It’s all Global Cooling from here on out
I agree. I always think of the same thing: It’s as old as so-called “civilization”. The folks in power try to claim power over weather to keep their power and to punish those who would threaten to take it from them.
In Mark Twain’s “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”, a similar situation is presented. In that situation, knowledge of a coming solar eclipse was used to prevent execution of one of the protagonists.
I don’t know if predictions of doom are a universal thing, or a largely Christian phenomena but they’ve been pretty popular historically. However -this time our priests, er, sorry Scientists know what they’re talking about. They have learned a lot since 1970, honest! We’re really screwed this time, and (just like last time) it’s YOUR fault,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
Christian??…….Islam calls it eschatology……”The Muslim Jesus descends and converts the world to Islam, kills the Jews, breaks crosses, declares himself a Muslim and gets married. He dies after 40-years”
With all do respect…or even none.
Is that topical for this thread ?
“do” s/b “due”.
So chop my head off.
Based on predictions in the 1950’s there would be no more American Bald Eagles by 1980, so would someone please tell any of the 4 nesting pairs of “imposter birds” to quit dive bombing the open field just to the west, and scaring the crap out of the neighbor’s dog.
Mark, in my neck of the woods the local control freaks fantasize about culling some of the Bald Eagles because they’re eating “too many” puffins, and because they’re disturbing the nesting Common Murres.
I just wish Bald Eagles fed on control freaks. That would solve so many problems.
Let’s not mix-up environmental success stories with failed Earth Day predictions.
http://www.fws.gov/midwest/eagle/recovery/qandas.html
http://www.fws.gov/endangered/what-we-do/peregrine-falcon.html
Not mixing them up, just pointing to the notion that when humans are confronted with real issues, (as in the toxicity of DDT), they usually come up with real solutions
Mark from the Midwest commented: “… just pointing to the notion that when humans are confronted with real issues, (as in the toxicity of DDT), they usually come up with real solutions.”
Curious what you think the “real solution” involving DDT was?
to MarkL
Diazinon, when used correctly, is surprisingly safe, it has a short half life, and no measurable effect with dermal exposure. It was banned for residential use in the U.S. in large part based on a few studies involving direct, and substantial oral administration to monkeys and rats. Problem is that most people in the U.S. don’t know how to read and follow directions. I’d guess, (no data), that the diseases spread by cockroaches do more damage to humans than diazinon has.
The newer class of neonicatinoid insecticides are more effective and have less mammalian and bird toxicity than any of the old organphosphates.
Happy Human Achievement Day, everybody!
Thanks, I’m celebrating with a frosty cold adult beverage right now!
It has been snowing and too cold to enjoy a cold adult beverage here.
I will not see earth day I will be under our bed
“I will be under our bed” … Hmmmmmm. Doing what I wonder. 🙂
I didn’t see earth day either. But, I was on top of my bed doing…Hmmmmmmm.
Meditating?
Well, it was certainly relaxing. I fell asleep afterwards.
Once again, it’s not about temperature or truth. Learned useful idiots will always be available to inflate their ego with a dire prediction about catastrophe. More useful idiots will be available to propagate those predictions and give them false validity. This goes on ad infinitum until the people realize the emperor has no clothes on. I’m betting the people will figure it out before they lose control of their destiny. England just lost their last aluminum smelter and has become a 100% aluminum importer due to Green machine needing to be appeased. The target is industry and capitalism, not temperature.
Psychologists and psychiatrists have missed a big opportunity to study these types of people for too long. There has to be some mental or nurturist commonality between these people just like there often is among serial killers. Seriously, there has to be some cause for people that don’t appear to have a major mental disorder to spout such nonsense. Perhaps the only commonality is “incentives” from wealthy donors, but I would sure like to know what is going on inside these alarmist’s heads.
But the psychologists are crazy….https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200909/why-shrinks-have-problems
Not as crazy as their Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)
DSM: PSYCHIATRY’S DEADLIEST SCAM
Thanks. Your lead gives me the chance to repeat one of my favorite quotations:
Sigmund Freud to Carl Jung in 1909 upon their arrival in NYC aboard the George Washington for a series of lectures at Clark Univ.
http://chronicle.com/article/Freuds-Visit-to-Clark-U/48424/
Fitting on Earth Day. But Earth Day was largely about acting on environmental pollution, which North America and Europe have by and large done. The first Earth Day was 1970. In 1969, the Cuyahoga River caught fire in Cleveland. That won’t happen again. So the larger analogy to CAGW is imperfect.
It is equally easy to go into the 1990’s (the IPCC FAR and TAR, UNFCCC founding era) and find equally ridiculous specific predictions concerning time frames for CAGW that have not panned out. Essay False Alarms has a few gems. Enough to make the point about specifically failed climate alarmism.
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
How is this a failed prediction? Since 1970 there have been three major famines in Cambodia, N. Korea and Ethiopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine).
Currently ~11% of the world’s population is undernurished. Hunger is the main cause of death in 45% of children under 5 (3.1 million/yr) (http://www.wfp.org/hunger/stats).
Furthermore, predictions on air pollution have not necessarily come to fruition because of concerted efforts to curb NOx, SOx, CFC’s and particulates through environmental regulations. Had these not been enacted, the predictions would surely have come true (e.g. see present-day China where regs are lax/non-existent).
And had these actions not been economically or politically viable the concerted efforts would not have been made. As they haven’t (yet) in China or India. But they will be.
The errors were in assuming that the actions wouldn’t be made at the right time for the societies in question and that the same is not still happening.
Environmentalists are out of step with best practise by definition.
“How is this a failed prediction…”
All famine you listed, is due to politics. Something that will only get worse as the watermeolons get more power.
KIT: I worked in Ethiopia during the “famine”. There was lots of food. Ethiopia can feed double it’s current population. The problem was civil war and inability to transport food by truck as is often the case. So western countries flew food in over the fighting factions. The Rift Valley in Ethiopia is amazingly fertile.
The Clean Air Act in the US pre-dated Earth Day by 7 years. Earth Day can hardly have influenced the drive to cut real pollution in the US since it was already well underway.
Quite right. Earth Day should be seen as evidence that the successful environmental movement was/is being hijacked by watermelons.
B.L.,
You might like to read this post, and comments — mine at 2:21.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/increase-in-uk-temperatures-largely-due-to-increase-in-sunshine-hours-caused-by-reduced-pollution/
Comment after mine by ‘saveenergy’ links to more old photos.
If you are worried about mass starvation, worry about the regime of irredeemable currency imploding, thereby destroying the world’s payment system and leveling multilateral trade to primitive barter. That would be a global catastrophe of the first order.
Kit Carruthers
Gee. Those “famines” were caused BY the communists running the socialist societies and failed government policies that Earth
Day enables and celebrates! Not to mention the 1.5 million Cambodian deliberately and directly killed BY the communists Earth Day celebrates and was invented and promoted by. Nor the 50 million Chinese killed by the communists Earth Day celebrates.
See, the “air pollution” over China is a Communist-produced mess, deliberately produced as they deliberately pursue money and power by using their people as near-slaves in a society run by generals and bureaucrats FOR generals and bureaucrats. Even given the pollution problems, the rise in their economy between 1995 and 2015 outweighs the deaths that Mao imposed over his sadistic and deadly reign. They can recover from air pollution. Given power and low energy costs, perhaps they will.
If the poor countries had a moral, ethical governments – and NONE do! – and a moral base in their citizens who did not steal and cheat, and enough energy and resources to sell honestly – instead of through corrupt reigns that cut and lie and steal and over-charge for what poor services are delivered late and with no reliability … THEN you would see famine deaths go down immediately.
But the leaders and tribes in each poor country and in every communist country and in many socialist countries are not honest, ethical nor moral.
Well said.
At the time, US Leftists tried to blame the Ethiopian famine on colonialism rather than Communism, 42 years after the brief Italian colonization (1936–41) ended. The Communist Derg were wholly to blame.
Same in Cambodia & N. Korea. Surprised Kit didn’t make that obvious connection.
Besides which, those government-made famines clearly were not “everywhere” except for the regions my former prof Ehrlich predicted.
The “Kit” Carruthers all come in a kit.
“…Currently ~11% of the world’s population is undernurished. Hunger is the main cause of death in 45% of children under 5 (3.1 million/yr) (http://www.wfp.org/hunger/stats)…”
Look around. Figures I saw for the “developing world” went from 37% in 1970 to less than half that by 2005 – despite a growing population that was supposed make things worse. How exactly are improving conditions with drastically-reduced undernurishment consistent with that prediction?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_malnutrition
Here we drop from 19% globally in 1990-1992 to your current 11% of 2012-2014
http://www.fao.org/hunger/en/
The overpopulation-based predictions of mass starvation were not contingent on anything but population growth. They’ve had predicted that we would not be able to produce enough food to feed everyone. Clearly those predictions are false.
Any starvation that had happened is not due to general lack of food – it is due to politics.
I’ve especially enjoyed your mentioning of N. Korea and Pol Pot’s regimes in Cambodia – it’s like you trying to say that homicidal dictatorships that practice mass murders of it’s citizens are caused by overpopulation.
If your annual gross receipts from all sources equate to $34,000US per year; (that includes all handouts), you are one of the world’s elite 1%ers.
I hate to even tell you all of the goodies that anyone living below he “poverty line” in the USA has. Well more accurately , a very significant majority of them do.
75% own a VCR even, and more than that own a microwave oven.
Most of the people living below the government mandated poverty line in the USA, are among the world lite 1%ers.
I’m reminded, by your post, of a piece by Willis a bit back in which he wrote of giving and expressed how much we really have to give relative to actual worldwide poverty.
My wife visits homes of poor to deliver health care (in US). They all have cable and big flat screens – much more than we have, not that I want or need it.
Regarding the statement that present-day China has lax or non-existent ‘regs’:
As a technical advisor to one of their standards committees I beg to differ. China has at a very high level made the necessary policy decisions to transform the situation that has prevailed for decades. Not only are the standards needed in many industries already in place the initiative proceeds as a policy of the government, not in spite of it. They do not need rescuing by others. Consider how different that is compared with other countries. I know it is easy to take cheap shots at developing countries but it is worth considering that normal people inhabit all of them. Like India, they plan to deliver a decent life to everyone according to their abilities. As you can well imagine, they carry little truck with the mindless scares that pervade Western cultures that seek to have everyone live in a state of perpetual guilt over something. Relax.
Back in 1970, no one really took these fools seriously (except Ehrlich who turned out to be fabulously wrong!). The problem is, today, these fanatics like CNN’s John Sutter are actually given a big stage and with the zeal of an academy award winner – Alinski-ize the airwaves will false alarmism.
They have NO facts, it’s all about the non existent “consensus”. Sutter said such tripe as, “The science is settled” and “Everyone agrees”.
This is why the left needs to be shamed and exposed. They have NO evidence (MODELS DON’T CONSTITUTE EVIDENCE).
All the stats show, fewer hurricanes, fewer tornadoes and a world average temperature that hasn’t budged in almost 19 years.
When will this farce end?
Scott April 22, 2015 at 2:44 pm
Back in 1970, no one really took these fools seriously…
I disagree. The modern environmental movement in the USA began in the 1960s as the Baby Boomer generation began to come of age. We had already seen and experienced the real and obvious air and water pollution of the 50s, and we could also see big improvements in the environment by 1970 as a result of legislation, and changing attitudes.
It was a different time, a different place, and I guess you really had to be there.
It was only later – I think – that the environmental movement was hijacked by those promoting sustainability, Gaia, CAGW, CO₂ & coal demonization, and all the rest of the Green Agenda.
The real environmentalists of my day are a different breed of cat than those fakers parading around in green tinsel today. We had songs like this, if you can handle goosebumps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BRqA3DSmpc
The Green Leaves of Summer,
music by Dimitri Tiomkin, from the movie The Alamo
performed by the Brothers Four
You weren’t kidding about goosebumps – thank you very much for posting that – that age of music is sorely missed.
not only goosebumps, thanks.
The only good thing about these Earth Days are the sales some companies put on. I just loaded up with a 6 month supply of hemp hearts (shelled seeds) for about half of what I would normally pay at Costco (best deal around normal days).
Aside from that just queue George Carlin and “Save the Planet? Who are we kidding? We haven’t even learned to take care of one another and we’re going to save the planet?”!
Hemp hearts?
Earth Day is just a euphemism for Humans Are Evil Day.
Max Photon on April 22, 2015 at 2:58 pm
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Max Photon,
That is an important critical point on interpreting Earth Day.
I think a little differently about what the premise underlying the intellectual basis of Earth Day is. My view is:
‘Earth’ Day is just a euphemism for ‘Privately Funded Human Achievement that Harnesses Nature is Evil’ Day
John
Phony-environmentalist’s Day maybe ….
…. where the guilt-ridden can absolve their guilt by giving money to somebody.
Why Australia?
Surely Oz should be in famine? No?
Oh, this is about poverty. Agreed.
Fight poverty.
Let climate change sort itself out when we have the luxury to do so.
To celebrate my Earth Day, I bought a 6500# diesel BMW X5 xDrive 35d 4×4
Nice ride, it sets you up perfectly to drive 90 mph during the upcoming 2nd little ice age
any carbon credits with that?
Now hood-mount a .50 BMG with infra-Green motion sensors and you’ve got yourself one sweet ride!
“…mount a .50 BMG”
Yikes, why waste expensive ammo on Greenies.
Dillon Aero makes a really cool mini-gun in 5.56. Only trouble is that the empties will scratch the finish on your Chevy!
https://youtu.be/7Nug5FZgxuk
To be fair the air pollution deaths claim is a woefully low estimate according to the World health organisation.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2014/air-pollution/en/
Whether or not this has increased or decreased over the last 50 years I don’t know, but i expect as air pollution has risen recently in the highly populated asian countries this figure has also risen significantly.
There are some serious environmental issue hidden under the CO2 rhetoric which should be tarred with the same brush.
London had a dark soot cloud over it much of the 19th century, as well as raw sewage running in the gutters. The improvements in urban air and water quality over the last 100 years are nothing short of technological miracles. Many of the air pollution problems in China involve political choices, not technological or economic necessity
This is the same WHO that used death by car accidents and murders in their US life expectancy calculations. I wouldn’t trust a word they say.
Air pollutions deaths would be reduced greatly by cheap energy (aka coal powered electricity)… large percentages of the people of Earth use dung/wood fuel for heating and cooking… The pollutants where you live (even in the West) are more dangerous than what’s outside…
Question : The fifth or do one down where ” most demographers agree”
Was that also a 97% consensus?
dates for each quote would have been helpful
2005: ABC Australia: Tim Flannery warns on global warming
TIM FLANNERY: Eastern Australia’s the area where el Nino reigns supreme, of course, and it was the land of drought and flooding rain. But since 1998 particularly, we’ve seen just drought, drought, drought, and particularly regions like Sydney and the Warragamba catchment – if you look at the Warragamba catchment figures, since ’98, the water has been in virtual freefall, and they’ve got about two years of supply left, but something will need to change in order to see the catchment start accumulating water again.
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1389827.htm
22 April 2015: Warragamba Dam Level : 86.5%.
never mind. for ABC & Flannery, there’s a new CAGW meme in place now:
22 April 2015: ABC Lateline: Interview: Tim Flannery
TONY JONES: Well it’s the biggest storm to hit Sydney and other parts of NSW in a decade. So are we likely to see more extreme weather events like this in the future, as many climate scientists have argued?…
TONY JONES: Yes. I mean, you know your own critics essentially make the argument that these huge kind of storms, these huge dumps of rain put the lie to the idea that it’s going to get drier in Australia.
TIM FLANNERY: Well that’s right. Every time it rains I seem to cop it from someone about this sort of thing. But the fact is it’s going to rain in the future. We’ll have intense storms in the future. But what I was talking about a decade ago and what continues to be absolutely true today is that south-eastern Australia overall is losing rainfall, it’s starting to dry out, there’s a drying trend which is strongly tied to the influence of greenhouse gases…
TONY JONES: Well what do you think of Bjorn Lomborg’s qualifications?…
***TIM FLANNERY: I’ve never been able to get a straight answer out of him. Every sentence that we engage with, the ground seems to shift. But, look, he’s – my understanding is he’s – his basic degree is in politics…
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2015/s4221859.htm
Meanwhile, it is already the 23rd April here so St George’s Day. Wishing a happy day to all English and English-at-Heart! Well, wishing a happy day to all and gratitude for the good things we have owing to coal and oil. May the developing countries soon receive similar benefits and not be held back by Greenie fundamentalists.
I can’t get over Tim Flannery’s hypocrisy…talk about pot and kettle. Is he not the extinct wombat ‘expert’?
Anything coming out of government, the mainstream media or any government agency, is a complete deception. TPTB believe they can “manage” people when in fact people only respond positively to true leadership.
The first one failed. Let’s try again. http://www.mbio.ncsu.edu/jwb/PrimordialSoup.jpeg
Just tried to post this at DeSmog.blog :
Instead of focusing on the “deniers”, lets look at the predictions of the “realists” from the first “Earth Day” 35 years ago:
“Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
• George Wald, Harvard Biologist
“It is already too late to avoid mass starvation.”
• Denis Hayes, chief organizer for Earth Day
and our favorite apostle Ehrlich:
“Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”
• Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University biologist
I guess, we are all dead now!
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LOL
I’m surprised nobody’s mentioned Ira Einhorn in relation to Earth Day. He claimed to have conceived it. Other promoters, however, insist it was originated by Senator Gaylord Nelson.
In any case it might be difficult to entirely extricate the name Ira Einhorn from Earth Day. His name is certainly worth a Google search – quite a twisted and despicable character.
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/tag/predictions-that-failed/
andthentheresphyzuki
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/dan-gardner-the-essential-error-of-david-suzuki
Imagination is in very short supply, residing in a few percent of the population. All these failures are the same. They don’t take into consideration technology and the genius of the few percent who are problem solvers in this world. They are preselected in their education and all avoid technology as a discipline. This is why it is difficult to recruit engineers into the Kumbaya throng.
The diplomas of doom mongers give them the appearance of experts on biosphere affairs, but, by excluding (not deliberately, but unwittingly) the dynamism of human intelligence from their purview, their universe is static and passive. They have studied animals and plants that behave predictably the same. Oh, if I want to know how many tigers there are in the forest, I will call on them. They will collect the poops and all the other things they do and will give me a fairly reliable picture of the tiger’s numbers, situation, health, diet,….But, how can this give them expertise greater than that of the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker to give us a prediction of famines, burial in horse manure, pollution, the climate, etc., etc.
They are simplistically thinking and guessing mainly from misanthropic, hopeful, freshly pink, naive and unused minds. The few percent, who have the vast panorama including human ingenuity in their purview, know how foolish it is to try to predict such things. One can use the making of prognostications as a filter to categorize such types. It is AXIOMATIC THAT PREDICTIONS FROM DOOMSTERS HAVE NOT AND, I WOULD SAY CANNOT COME TRUE because of the missing overpowering dynamic ingenuity factor in their thinking. Unconstrained by this first order principal component, their thoughts (and heartfelt concerns) soar through the roof of reality.
Well, since Earth Day is nothing more than Communism Day, and since communism — being anti-capitalism or anti-production — is only adept at destruction, I thought it would be fun to counter with this enjoyable list of:
Ten Amazing Inventions from Ancient Times
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/ten-amazing-inventions-ancient-times-001539
If there is one common theme that all of those quoted doom-loons above miss, it’s that human inventiveness is indefatigable.
(Feel free to add other great ancient inventions to the list!)
Max,
May I ask where in the Pacific NW is your AO, not in precise grid coordinates, but let’s say, major river drainage? Thanks, either way.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/inventions/5-amazing-ancient-egyptian-inventions.htm
I don’t have a .50 cal. BMG, but my brother used to have two .30 cal. water-cooled BMGs.
Cannon Beach
Holy Roosevelt Elk!
My childhood stomping grounds. Boy, has it ever changed since the ’50s.
My grandfather built the seawall at Seaside. He & my grandmother are buried at Warrenton.
I’m in Umatilla County now, but spend half the year in Chile. Used to have a 900 yard shooting range, where my other brother tested machine guns for Janes defense publications, but sold the ranch in 2000. Same brother who recently sold his beach houses at Waldport (rental) & Yachats (cottage), along with one on Kauai.
Sorry I can’t invite you to the formerly annual Buffalo Wallow Freedom Shoot, as it was discontinued for lack of range. But my Afghan war buddies & I still get in some gunning & blasting at our reunions in the greater PDX area.
It’s still pretty sweet. 95% of the time I get to surf completely alone, which is a $%#@! DREAM!
As for the elk, during certain times of the year they bed down right outside my door. A few times I’ve had a protective bull at the bottom of my steps not let me even leave my place.
Thanks for the would-have-been invitation. I’ll just have to make do …
let us know when the surf is good, gunneys
Lived in Eugene for a bit late 70s and early 80s and fished for steelies up and down central and southern coasts – Alsea to the Rogue – good memories
@ Max,
Looks like she has something in her sights, it looks like revenge.
Bubba,
I used to fish offshore for salmon in the San Francisco area. Those shiny monsters would weigh in at 40-50 lbs! I don’t fish anymore; those are just happy memories of death-defying adventures with a great friend.
Now… my brother-in-law … (who lives on the same property as I) … he LIVES for fishing around here. That and bees. He loves bees. Fishing and bees. And maybe a wee whiskey by the fire at the end of it all. Talk about wholesome simple pleasures.
BTW, that’s Pamela … (on the right).
The second Amendment protects the first Amendment here in the USA. If not for that, the progressives would have already taken away our right to call them liars here on WUWT.
Hear hear!
I have a friend in town who owns Cannon Beach Guns. In this liberal infested place, the dude gets plenty of grief. But every single time I see him I thank him for the awesome public service he provides.
A right not exercised is a right forfeited.
Max, is that you – on the left? I can’t make out if you are short, or that gun is big. We need more photos to be sure.
Does she have a consealed weapon license?
[Only if prisoners wrapped up the Fedex package that sent the weapon. .mod]
I see your friend in the photo enjoys plinking.
Salmon fishing in Chile is like the good old days in the PNW. The first day I went Columbia River Chinook salmon fishing in the Rio Puelo, the three of us caught six fish in three hours. Or maybe it was three fish in six hours. But they were big, the smallest 32# & the biggest 40#. But two novice female fishers did better, with a 45#er & 50#er as the first salmon (or fish) they had ever caught.
Chile farms all the species of North Pacific salmon except Chinook, which grow too slowly. They threw them out & the fish went whoopee! They’ve invaded all the rivers of southern Chile, rounded the Cape & are now blessing Argentine Patagonia with their presence. In Chile, the most northerly river system they’ve occupied is the Imperial, the mouth of which lies at 39′ 45″ S, near Isla Mocha, where the inspiration for Moby Dick, Mocha Dick, hung out. Its main tributary flows past the city of Temuco, so in terms of fishing, it’s like living in Portland, c. 1915 or even earlier.
Some environmentalists worry that the aggressive monsters will eat all the unimpressive indigenous river & coastal fish, but this doesn’t seem to be happening.
The same lures that work on them in the Columbia do the trick in Chile. My buddy who lives on the Rio Tolten, downstream Lake Villarrica, under the volcano of the same name, recently eruptive, would never let me fish his river again if he knew I blabbed. The salmon don’t go up the Tolten above its confluence with the cool Allipen, up which they go to spawn, but the upper Tolten and the lake are home to many trout.
Chile is about at the same level of development as Oregon in the 1950s or ’60s. Their new “interstate” is named Ruta Cinco in honor of I-5, but it’s a tollway, not a freeway.
Invasive chinook. That’s amazing. I’d rather have that than asian carp.
Chinook are amazing fish … (especially with a reduced shallot / butter / white wine / tarragon sauce 🙂
Te invasiveness of Chinook is truly amazing & needs to be seen to be appreciated.
The.
Sorry for commenting under the influence,
Max
Additional magnificent ancient invention: fire (you know, the oxidizing carbon kind).
Ah fire … remember how much fun playing with fire was as a kid? I grew up on the Big Island of Hawaii in a very rural place, and my parents had no problem with my little buddy and I working for days to amass fuel for some serious infernos.
I used to love to dive for fishing lead weights, put them in coffee cans, and melt them in the bonfires. Then I’d have these awesome circular lead blocks. (No wonder my IQ is about 65.)
Fire is just as magical now as it was then.
Max Photon April 22, 2015 at 7:21 pm
What years were those Max? I used to fish for salmon on early morning party boats out of Sausalito for 10 years. The biggest salmon I ever caught was 27 pounds. Confounding statistics, it was also the first salmon I ever caught. Biggest after that was probably a 17-pounder.
Oh and yeah, it’s Earth Day sorry, I forgot we’re all going to die …. waaaah.
I did most of my salmon fishing from about 1986-1994.
A friend and I used to take an 11-foot Boston Whaler (sic!) out the Gate and fish anywhere from Duxbury Reef to the Farallones. We also fished off of Pt. Reyes by way of Tomales Bay; we’d camp at Hog Island for up to a couple of weeks at a time. (Gosh that was fun!)
Other boats were forever coming to rescue us, thinking that our ‘real’ boat had sunk and that we were in the lifeboat.
We eventually graduated to a 17-foot Whaler, but the really fun memories are with the 11-footer.
Oh to be young and stupid(er).
You can go to the earth day site (I would be completely remiss including the link here) and sign the petition to:
For those here expressing “when will this madness end”, I offer a little (really very, very little) sense of progress:
I am the Mayor of my little town of 500 people – (hard to believe, I know)
Yup, I’m the “local leader” but to be clear, this is a voluntary position with zero power and less authority but decent internet connection and is awarded annually to someone showing up late to Town Meeting – not that I’m above using my position –
This banner is over my office doorway: “Carbon is the basis of life on Earth” and I require all appointments be made on my official Calendar by Josh. Hey, they let me set policy. Get ‘em with every little thing.
Bully for you, Bubba!
Paul Ehrlich deserves a day devoted to recalling his lies, false prophecies and hype. The world should long remember and ponder how a proven phony has been able to avoid any accountability through so many decades of being wrong.
I couldn’t even count the number of times I’ve had Paul Ehrlich’s BS shoved in my face by environmental dooms-dayers over the decades. Oh to have a time machine to be able to go back and slap every single idiot’s head. Does anybody have one I can borrow?
not sure, but
he was interviewed on Alternative Radio – that I listened to in Bozeman Mt last summer while I was fishing Yellowstone and surrounds – say early Sept – right around labor day. He was spinning the usual.
Should be some transcript. I’ll look, too.
Best,
da Bub
Earth Week, April 16-22, originated in Philadelphia in 1970. I was there at Fairmount Park Philadelphia, and saw all of these speakers:
Saw U.S. Senator Edmund Muskie, Ralph Nader, Poet, Allen Ginsberg, Landscape Architect and author of “Design with Nature,” Ian McHarg, Nobel prize-winning Harvard Biochemist, George Wald, U.S. Senate Minority Leader, Hugh Scott, bacteriologist, Rene Dubois, climatologist Helmet Landsberg, economist, Kenneth Boulding, artist, writer and sociologist, John McHale, population biologist and author of The Population Bomb, Paul Ehrlich, Atomic Energy Commission Chairman, Ralph Lapp, hydrologist Luna Leopold, Urban Planner and author Lewis Mumford, Philosopher and author, Alan Watts, Ecologist, Kenneth Watt, and Frank Herbert, author of Dune.
Although Ira Einhorn, was there too, I don’t remember seeing him. I guess he was too busy chopping up his girlfriend…
Not sure exactly why I was there, but I was always interested in the environment – at one time wanted to become a Forest Ranger… Became an artist instead…
I cannot believe what all of this has become. I have been a skeptic from the start with “global Warming” – I just began looking at the data – that said it all for me.
Oh, I remember why I was there, it was my classmate Susan Mackaninly (rhymes with “bank of Italy”) who invited me – I guess she was an early progressive…
me too, always about the girl
goodness, I remember her – that was Alice
believe that was the only reason I, and my hormones were there
right, that pesky data thingy – does it every time – but too few follow data
The odds of being wrong about doomsday predictions are holding steady at 100%.
The trend is as old as human civilization.
Meanwhile, Earth is having it’s own day.
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/22/an-extraordinary-time-lapse-view-of-the-eruption-of-chiles-calbuco-volcano/?partner=rss&_r=0
23 April: Daily Mail: Francesca Chambers: I love the smell of jet fuel, says global warming advocate Bill Nye the Science Guy as he takes Air Force One to preach on carbon emissions
Engineer-turned-science-TV-host told a White House pool reporter that he loves the smell of jet fuel
Earth Day trip with President Obama aboard Boeing 747 is meant to highlight climate change threats but will leave a massive carbon footprint
Flights to the Florida Everglades and back will cover 1,836 miles and consume more than 9,180 gallons of fuel
The White House said Tuesday that Nye…would make the trek today on its behalf to shoot a video of the president…
Nye told press it was his first time on the president’s private jet, but he once rode AF2 with former Vice President Al Gore…
In a tweet last night, Nye said he was ‘heading down to DC to catch an #EarthDay flight on Air Force One with President Obama…
‘That said, the excitement, much like #climatechange, is real,’ he added in a follow-up tweet a minute later.
The statements were met with puzzled responses.
‘Doesn’t jet travel leave a big carbon footprint?’ user Timothy Grome wrote.
‘Hmm, seems ironic. doesn’t seem very climate friendly earth day,’ Allison B. of Galveston, Texas, said…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3051026/Climate-change-advocate-Bill-Nye-Science-Guy-takes-Air-Force-One-preach-carbon-emissions.html
Having heard the “wisdom” of Bill Nye (The Science Guy) I am unimpressed by his very limited knowledge, and mystified by his celebrity. True he does have a Mech. Eng. degree from Cornell, but Cornell has a lot of engineers. So it must be instead that he famously took a class from Carl Sagan. But a lot of people did that too – it was a class that required the services of Cornell’s large Bailey Hall auditorium. I pity all those who had to sit through those lectures. And I mean “SIT through” to be the operative phrase. The seats required considerable malleability on the part of the students! The lectures themselves were apparently quite good.
Anyone who sat in those seats had to deal with an unnaturally compressed and flattened butt for many years to come. (They have since been replaced – the old seats sold to “advanced interrogation” outfits throughout the world.) To the extent that those seats fashioned posteriors, they likely simultaneously changed overall perspectives (flattened and compressed) of the world – and that explains a lot.
What’s so sad is that the U.S. has spent $trillions on pollution rules/regs/mandate compliance costs over the last 35 years, and various harmful REAL pollutants have been cut 50~99%:
http://www.epa.gov/airtrends/aqtrends.html
Of course the aggressively ignorant leftist masses think pollution levels are getting worse and worse, thanks to the Leftists MSM and public school government propaganda on the subject, and a complete lack of inquisitiveness by the masses that simply believe what their told to believe by the State…
When will people wake up to reality???
Sorry… That’s they’re… not their…
21 April: Edmunds: Hybrid and Electric Vehicles Struggle to Maintain Owner Loyalty, Reports Edmunds.com
Earth Day Analysis Shows Car Buyers Trading in Alternative Fuel Vehicles for SUVs More than Ever Before
SANTA MONICA, Calif. — April 21, 2015 — Car buyers are trading in hybrid and electric cars for SUVs at a higher rate than ever before, according to a new analysis from car-buying platform Edmunds.com. The analysis offers a surprising look at how today’s gas prices are drawing hybrid and EV owners toward gas-guzzling vehicles at a much more accelerated pace than in recent years…
According to Edmunds.com, about 22 percent of people who have traded in their hybrids and EVs in 2015 bought a new SUV. The number represents a sharp increase from 18.8 percent last year, and it is nearly double the rate of 11.9 percent just three years ago…
“For better or worse, it looks like many hybrid and EV owners are driven more by financial motives rather than a responsibility to the environment,” says Edmunds.com Director of Industry Analysis Jessica Caldwell. “Three years ago, when gas was at near-record highs, it was a lot easier to rationalize the price premiums on alternative fuel vehicles. But with today’s gas prices as low as they are, the math just doesn’t make a very compelling case.”…
***Edmunds’ analysis comes at a time when overall sales of alternative vehicles have continued to slide. EVs and hybrids accounted for just 2.7 percent of all new car sales in the first quarter of 2015, down from 3.3 percent during that same period last year. The share of SUVs, meanwhile, has increased from 31.8 percent in Q1 2014 to 34.2 percent in Q1 2015…
http://www.edmunds.com/about/press/hybrid-and-electric-vehicles-struggle-to-maintain-owner-loyalty-reports-edmundscom.html
Honest John the motoring writer here in UK said that electric cars were suffering from a 60% depreciation in the first year of ownership, only an ecoloon would be happy with that!
Reblogged this on Home of the Little-Known Blogger and commented:
In case anyone wonders why I hate Earth Day… This is part of the reason.
OT. Volcanic eruption in Chile.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/chiles-calbuco-volcano-wakes-up-from-54year-slumber-20150423-1mri8r.html
Climate change belief, Islamic extremism and Christian fundamentalism regrettably all that the same foundation. It is the total lack of understanding of technology and it cost benefit ratio that has been exploited by groups with an agenda. This is why we see exactly the same cult like refusal in all three to allow any questioning of that belief and at times vicious treatment of heretics regardless of how inaccurate or unfounded the information around us shows the belief to be.
As a counterpoint to Earth Day there is an interesting article in today’s Telegraph by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard which paints a very rosy picture of the current state and future prospects for US oil and gas shale reserves.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11556531/Oil-slump-may-deepen-as-US-shale-fights-Opec-to-a-standstill.html
It seems that Obama will go down in history as the man who presided over US’s greatest period of oil wealth and all the benefits to the economy that that brings – nice irony there.
One cautionary note: AEP has not the best reputation for economic prediction , having claimed the imminent destruction of the Euro for the last 5 years.
Sounds like the school of ‘oscillatory balance functions and asymptotic curves have no place in the natural world on planet earth…..’
I think top prize in the Alarmist Stakes has to go to this one
Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html
I especially like this bit
Unfortunately, however, since it now 2015, I must have slept through it.
When CAGW hypothesis dies a well deserved death, anyone any ideas what will replace it? My guess is imaginary asteroids
I make no apologies for pasting this link again!
http://climatechangepredictions.org/
Happy Earth Day from Florida! Obama sends his best.
Happy St. George’s Day!
http://media.giphy.com/media/Ngub0rmNH7tSw/giphy.gif
Oh please, there are already millions of ‘Climate Refugees’! They leave New York and other northern States and flee to Florida every year to take up permanent residence in much smaller homes than they had up north. They are not called ‘climate refugees’ however, to mask the problem the government has manipulated the media to ensure that they are called ‘retirees’ instead.
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Great reading. Thanks.
Bjorn Lomborg’s book “The Skeptical Environmentalist” drives much of the point home. He started to write a book that quantified all the environmental evils… but time after time found that most of the environmental challenges that arise (air/water pollution, starvation, etc) are getting better, not worse.
Earth Day goes back to 1970. Many of the climate forecasts now go back 30-40 years. We now have a long enough length of forecast vs observed to point out the constant failures and urge great caution before blindly accepting the next environmental Armageddon forecast
Perhaps on Earth Day we could have a TV awards ceremony called The Crystal Globe Awards and publicly embarrass those who failed to predict the future correctly. I vote for Penn&Teller as the first hosts.
How about The Crystal Maze? That was sh!t too…
Looks like a hoot! The only BBC programming I can get here is on PBS.
Nah! Rocky Horror Show was his best work. I guess we all have to “whore” ourselves to pay the bills at some time. HP can get rooted…
Just gave me an idea for a contest we farmers here can start called ‘The Crystal Maize Award’. Each guy predicts his corn crop yield per-acre and the one who is closest gets the trophy (which consists of the set of crystal corn dishes I just inherited). Travelling trophy of course.
Fear mongerers with agendas
I posted this classic list on facebook, and was immediately trolled by a green lib posting links (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Anthony_Watts) trying to denigrate Anthony by trying to suggest he was on the Heartland payroll. He also mentioned the fact that there was a parody website out there (wottsupwiththat) as proof that this was a “disinformation” website. Ad hominem after ad hominem. I guess if you can’t attack the message, you attack the messenger. Keep up the good work, guys.
Menicholas April 22, 2015 at 8:37 pm & April 23, 2015 at 8:00 am
Congratulations on your epiphany about CAGW. However, whether or not neonics are worse/better than organophosphates I cannot say, but the jury is still out on these neonicotinoids, in my view.
MIxed links, pro and (mostly) con. Please pay particular attention to the comments at the
● 2/5/2014 Forbes article:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2014/02/05/bee-deaths-reversal-as-evidence-points-away-from-neonics-as-driver-pressure-builds-to-rethink-ban/2/
(Comment: 1. The scientific publications that are here presented to be from the “good scientists” have been carried out by authors that present strong ties with the pesticides industry: Scott-Duprey has been funded by Bayer and British government laboratory DEFRA’s honey bee senior scientist (H. Thompson) has always had an industry-like approach before…leaving DEFRA to fall in the arms of Syngenta…)
● Most recent news items, link to Nature study below.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/neonics-pesticide-poses-substantial-risk-to-wild-bees-studies-claim-10195792.html
● More Damning Evidence Against Neonics: Could it Sway an EU Vote?
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/14260/20150422/more-damning-evidence-against-neonics-sway-eu-vote.htm
● Men’s sperm counts and pesticides:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pesticide-residues-on-some-fruit-and-vegetables-harming-mens-fertility-study-claims-10144722.html
● KCET Earth Focus: (28 minutes)
http://www.kcet.org/shows/earth_focus/full-episodes/watch-earth-focus—-neonicotinoids-the-new-ddt.html
● KCET short web version (8 minutes)
http://www.kcet.org/shows/earth_focus/web-videos/watch-neonics-toxic-until-fully-tested.html
Scott Hoffman Black, executive director of The Xerces Society, talks about the impact of neonicotinoid pesticides on the environment.
● From Nature Published online 22 April 2015
Seed coating with a neonicotinoid insecticide negatively affects wild bees:
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/pdf/nature14420.pdf#close
● 3/25/2014 Huff Post – ‘Neonics Not Key Driver of Bee Deaths’–USDA Study May Clash With White House Poised to Restrict Pesticide
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-entine/neonics-not-key-driver-of_b_6928578.html
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I will close by noting that this question about the neonicotinoids is a real environmental issue worthy of attention and discussion, but the front page environmental news from the MSM is about all impending global meltdown from a beneficial trace gas.
Be aware that those with the money fund the mass media megaphones, and never forget Golden Rule #2:
Those with the gold make the rules.
–sp–
Steve,
Thank you sir, I appreciate the feedback and the links.
Some thoughts from my tired-cause-its-late brain:
-The connection to colony collapse disorder must be investigated. But nearly every insecticide is highly toxic to bees.
-I doubt nicotine is a carcinogen, seriously.
-I was speaking strictly about efficacy and mammalian toxicity.
-That they are particularly effective at their intended purpose is a bit of a dilemma, in that they may be TOO good, no?
-Have to double check on persistence. Generally, pesticides that do not break down readily, more through soil, and/or are shown to bio-accumulate are not approved. I would not believe anything just because it is published. That is one lesson we all best learn, and soon.
Not so much of an epiphany, but I take your meaning. I was already completely aware it was pure BS.
I was studying this stuff in the mid eighties when the meme switched overnight.
I am more like freshly outraged.
Plus, now it is not just talk anymore.
It is beyond a joke, way beyond a laughing matter.
Typo …move through soil…
Earth Day Rally At The Washington Monument Leaves Grounds Smelling Like ‘Cow Poop’.
The odor of spring at the Washington Monument this week? ‘Gross.’
Ah, spring in Washington. Cherry blossoms, daffodils. The smell of flowers, cut grass and, on the grounds of the Washington Monument this week, cow poop?
A rank odor that visitors likened to cow deposits was borne on the breeze this week from a large mud flat left behind from Saturday’s Global Citizen 2015 Earth Day rally, just northeast of the Monument.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/the-odor-of-spring-at-the-washington-monument-this-week-gross/2015/04/22/c6678bb2-e90f-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html
Why was anyone surprised by the residual odor? Many of us have know that ‘Earth Day’ was bullsh*t since its inception in 1970.
I just found this. Scary stuff!!! I’m so startled right now!!!
“Not only are we fucked, but it’s coming much sooner than we expected. It’s coming in the first half of this century, not the second. By 2050 life for all but the simplest and most well-protected species on this planet will almost certainly be impossible, except for small numbers in a few marginal areas.
The whole issue of mitigation and the need for activism is now more-or-less moot. Even if we were to collectively and massively change our behaviour starting tomorrow, it would only delay collapse by a few years, and quite possible make the collapse even more catastrophic. Until recently there was at least a chance that perhaps a combination of behaviour change and the reduced availability of cheap fossil fuels might combine to pull us back from the brink, or at least make a much-changed and simpler life possible for a much smaller population of humans and other creatures. That chance is gone.”
https://damnthematrix.wordpress.com/tag/guy-mcpherson/page/2/
“Civilization will end within 15
or 30 years unless immediate
action is taken against
problems facing mankind.”
read: blitzkrieg.
Today on the highway circling Salzburg, pre alpine EU town, we had speed restrictions due to PM –
„National Air Quality“ Standard for Particulate Matter.
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during wind and heavy rains.
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the green burocrats installed the electronic overhead signals for. Now they use it eyes wide shut.
Hans
Guess they must have faked this whole video then.
Seriously you guys need to wake up to yourselves with your uneducated remarks…
Odd.
Just the “excess” sea ice around Antarctica just last June was an area the size of Greenland. Set an all-time record high. Guess they “forgot” to add that info in their well-funded movie, eh? Arctic sea ice last year was low – about 3% – 7% below normal.
A few days ago, the “excess” sea ice around Antarctica covered an area the size of Hudson Bay – 35% above normal.
Yeah its slippin off the continent fool
How did you watch a 75 minute vid in less than 20 mins ? See what I mean. No info . You didn’t even watch it but you think your comment is valid…lol
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/CAGW
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/CAGW
Says it all really
New quote: “All of the Antarctic ice will slip of the continent and into the ocean within the next 50 years” (unless you watch the video and/or vist the website)
http://fee.org/freeman/detail/earth-day-22-ways-to-think-about-the-climate-change-debate?utm_source=Foundation+for+Economic+Education+Current+Contacts&utm_campaign=beac5c76f6-Weekly_Roundup_04_20_2015_04_24_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_77ef1bd48e-beac5c76f6-14163077
All alarmists should be made to read this article. But of course none will read it.
New quote “ignorance is bliss”
Oh, did I miss the excitement?
I had my Celebrate Human Achievement sign ready for a window.
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