You know of the “Gore effect“, Wikiepedia describes it as “…an informal and satirical term which alleges a causal relationship between unseasonable cold weather phenomena and global warming activism”, so it was appropriate to apply to the situation where the Gore’s Climate Reality Project group tried a political ploys that looked stupid: “I’m Too Hot” trucks and offers of free ice cream to this week’s Environmental Protection Agency hearings on power-plant emissions…when it was 58 degrees and raining. Obviously, CNN’s Bill Weir doesn’t understand satire, much less how to be a professional journalist.
From Mediaite:
It’s safe to say CNN anchor Bill Weir is not a fan of climate change deniers.
On Thursday, the Twitter account for Fox Nation, a blog run by Fox News, tweeted a link to a post headlined, “Climate Doesn’t Cooperate With Al Gore’s Group’s Visit to Denver EPA Hearings.”
The story, aggregated from the Washington Times, relates to a Denver visit by former Vice President Al Gore‘s “Climate Reality Project” for EPA hearings on power plant emissions.
The group showed up to hand out ice cream even though it was 58 degrees.
Weir retweeted the link, with his own comment: “Weather is not climate, you willfully ignorant fucksticks.”
[ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillWeirCNN/status/494670062092296192 ]
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One wonders why he didn’t say same the same thing about Gore and his ice-cream trucks to treat the “I’m too hot” weather that never materialized. Oh, yeah, bias.
This is probably the best reason ever to tune out CNN, when they hire emotional children like this instead of journalistic professionals, it’s pretty much pointless to watch any longer.
After what I experienced recently, I’m beginning to think that most climate alarmists are nothing more than emotional children disguising themselves as professionals.
UPDATE: I posted this short message, twice. It was deleted both times, but the second time I saved a screen cap. Apparently Bill Weir has an ego that is easily bruised, or there’s somebody at CNN running interference.
You can look here as see that it is now missing.
[ Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillWeirCNN/status/494670062092296192 ]
Class act, guys. No bias there at CNN.
Yes. Sore LOSERS!
It’s the day at high school when the sophomores are allowed to run the place. They think they know it all, but are in reality completely clueless.
Pardon my ignorance, but what’s a f*ckstick?
REPLY: look down – Anthony
Definition of insanity: Doing (or claiming?) the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.
Thanks, I already cut the cable cord except for broadband internet signal. I’ll recheck and make sure there are no old CNN news app feeds or bookmarks anywhere on my devices. I don’t think I have any left though. I have very low tolerance for biased news sources, reality TV shows, and other glaring examples of content decline in this society. The double bonus is saving money at the same time, in this no-growth new normal.
He’ll get an offer to join the Obama team by next week, with mid 6-figure salary…
Sorry guys …ut Weir is right. look this is a good Blog and sometimes I agree with some of the posts & analysis.
But here YOU do science.
Dr Curry does Science.
Dr Pielke Jr does Science
Fox news commentators and their conservative followers who make a comment that TODAY in denver its 58 degrees … ” so where is Global warming ? …” do NOT grasp science.
They do not see the difference between a cool day in July and climate
Most of Fox nations viewers ( as we know ( are religiously oriented people that hate or distrust science. 58% of all conservatives think the world is 10,000 old or less. So when Bill Weir says that… he is correct
sorry
REPLY: you’ve missed the distinction between satire and science. this is satire – Anthony
He has to be a kid. Only a kid would be so ignorant as to think the filth words reflect on anyone but himself.
But I guess that is the best CNN can hire these days. Headed south with a bullet (OOPS! there goes the hate words).
Ask Bill Weir what the current believed temperature increase is to a doubling of CO2 from CO2 alone and no feedbacks from other sources. Watch Mr. Intelligent’s brain turn as he realizes all he knows is propaganda phrases. Get ready to hear a Gore-like absurdly high answer.
That will make a fine addition to his curriculum vitae.
“…nothing more than emotional children disguising themselves as professionals.”
You are too kind to the scumbags.
Mr. Weir is only partially right when he said “weather is not climate.” When it is cold, that is weather; when it is hot, that is climate change. I learned that from the AGWers themselves. They are a transparent lot, and ya gotta love ’em.
Anthony,
With all due respect, I don’t think it’s very professional to re-post this kind of stuff. Please just ignore it. Otherwise you risk sinking to junior high levels yourself.
The Climate Reality Project stunt reminded me of the turkey giveaway episode from WKRP In Cincinnati.
“As God is my witness, I thought it was supposed to be hot in July.”
Isn’t the Global Average Temperature, this very instant, the Climate? At least as defined by the IPCC?
And if the Global Average Temperature this instant, isn’t weather, I don’t know what is.
Can someone please help me out here?
I wonder how he will be dealing wit the coming little ice age. My guess us that his *stick will drop off.
Paul says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:23 am
Friday humor a day early.
I just mailed this to CNN:
This is about your attitude to climate policy(climate science reporting. It seems you have an “anchor” with an uncontrolled bias. This reflects on the overall quality of CNN.
See http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/31/the-gore-effect-turns-ugly-cnn-climate-bias-revealed/#more-113776
Exactly.
The Emoticons are all the cause exists of.
Never mind thinking anything through, its all about; How do you feel?
As the cult collapses I expect to be treated to ever more pathetic outbursts by these emotional delinquents.
However high profile sceptics may need to up their personal security as the implosion spreads.
These are not emotionally stable people.
The first reaction they seem to have, is that their delusions collapse is always the fault of some one else.They are never mistaken, it is always the work of us evil doubters, when reality smacks them along side the head.
I do expect violence from some of these people, because they constantly fantasize about it,they have cultivated a shared delusion where they are the Good, the Chosen and the Righteous….
As this crumbles they will become further unhinged… if it is possible to do so.
After all to go from seeing yourself as Saviour of the Planet to realizing you have been actively aiding and abetting the most racist anti humanist policies since the 1930s.. that one hell of a come down.
Kind of embarrassing to be supporting, Save the Planet, Kill the Poor. And to be too stupid to realize this on your own.
Wish the ‘I’m Too Hot’ campaign would just go away, they have ruined summer so far.
climate is just the average WEATHER of the previous 30 years…….the climate does NOT control the weather in any way……….SIMPLE FACTS.
Yes Anthony, they are children. The last 30 years our children have been feed this climate B.S. & when they grow up they retained what was dilled into them since 1st grade. We have some serious deprogramming ahead. Logic & the planet it self will show how wrong the climate alarmist are in the long run. IMO.
“Wikiepedia”
(you can mod this comment)
He really said that. Wow!
David T. Show me the proof of your opinion that the majority of Fox News viewers believe the earth is 10000 years old.
From a non viewer
Let’s take look at Weir’s qualifications and see where the ignorance lies.
Genghis… NO you are not wrong but that wasn’t his point. Bill Weir’s is trying to a point out that some folks have trouble understanding basic concepts about science. Regardless of whether one accept AGW or doesnt.. regardless of what one thinks of Al Gore or Rush… one cool day or one hot day at any given location has nothing at all to do with proven or disproving anything regarding AGW.
The argument presented by Fox Nation and numerous other conservatives / skeptics when Al Gore (who IS a serious blowhole) shows up on a cool day in Denver to pedal his crack pot ideas… is every bit as ignorant and stupid as any comment made by Al Gore.
Indeed we even see such similar comments being made on a fairly advanced and scientifically literate blog such as this one. But if one were to take a look at some other Blogs such as lets say JOHN COLEMANS or REAL SCIENCE… You see numerous references being made to the fact that… Because we had a colder than normal winter…or a in active hurricane season… or a cool weak in the middle of July… that all AGW theory is total bullshit.
Contacting the sponsors of Weir’s show and forwarding Weir’s tweet to them could be an effective strategy.
Russell Seitz obviously doesn’t have a f*ckstick, and has suffered brain damage due to a build-up of his waste products.
SUE THE BASTARD!!
I prefer to ignore slimeballs, but many people with physical disablities (I share your hearing loss and type with 6 fingers due to paralysis of my dominant hand, so I’m knowledgable, but any bias is based on normal human empathy) are unable to defend themselves. The morally and ethically disabled; Al Gore, Bill Weir and Russell Seitz, are parasites who survive by destroying others.
That’s where you are wrong Jim, it’s all climate change. When it’s cold, global warming caused it. When it snows, ‘it only makes sense’ that global warming is causing it. Droughts? definitely global warming. Rain, a direct result of global warming. Just so you know, 2014 will be the hottest year on record. ( adjusting the record to reflect that is not a problem. Whatever it takes) And every storm is extreme, super, or unprecedented. Soon I expect them to link earthquakes and volcanoes will be caused by AGW.
Bill is nominating himself to be the next unemployed former CNN contributor, and I second his motion.
Sorry, Dave Tolleris, but you do not do science either, not if you repeat such propaganga about conservatives, who tend to be the best educated.
Also, climate is simply weather repeated over the long term with seasonal variation, or with little variation. Is weather climate ?- no, but climate is the sum of weather
David Tolleris says: I’m a trollolololo!
July 31, 2014 at 11:18 am
>Fox news commentators and their conservative followers who make a comment that TODAY
>in denver its 58 degrees … ” so where is Global warming ? …” do NOT grasp science.
Ho-hum, grow a sense of humor. That’s funny!
To paraphrase JimS: Weather is not climate when it is cold. Weather is proof of climate change when it is hot!
I’m at the beach right now… it’s sunny, clear and cold! Ususlly it’s blistering hot this time of year. Yesterday it was 48F at Dulles Airport in Wash DC. Broke the old all-time record by 3 degrees! But that’s all weather…
Enjoy your humorless life.
Eric
elmer says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:09 am
Pardon my ignorance, but what’s a f*ckstick?
REPLY: look down – Anthony
When I looked down I saw a foot, at least it was 12″ , though I don’t use it a a rule.
David Tolleris says:
“Most of Fox nations viewers ( as we know ( are religiously oriented people that hate or distrust science. 58% of all conservatives think the world is 10,000 old or less. So when Bill Weir says that… he is correct”
This is how liberals find it so easy to dismiss opposing arguments. They’re all just whacko religious idiots that hate science, right? So how is political activism, carnival stunts, and shutting down debate considered “pro science”?
Actually David, contrary to your “settled science”, I think most conservatives are not religious at all, but are more interested in preserving freedom and free markets, and fighting socialism.
There are stupid people on both sides of the political spectrum. Each side has their base that they pander to. The difference is that the conservative whacko religious nut fringe are also generally productive law abiding citizens that aren’t dependent on the welfare state.
That’s why I almost turned on the furnace last night. I didn’t know that Gore groupies now commanded the same powers as the Great Gore himself.
Good to know.
I wish I could talk Big Al to have his global warming conference in Phoenix in July or Aug. because they could use some cool weather during these months.
Just what CNN needs. Another left winger! If you look at CNN for what they are, a leftwing activist group, and not a news channel it will stop being surprising.
Me thinks someone has been participating in “GIGO” statistics about Fox News picked up on The Beast or HuffPo. Here are some real numbers about prime-time viewing that matter. Fox beats all its direct competitors COMBINED. Note – I only watch 1 cable news show, Morning Joe, to see Mika’s bleached blonde head spin as she spouts WH talking points, so I have no horse in this race.
As if yesterday, 7/29:
FOXN 2,377,000
CNN 627,000
MSNBC 726,000
HLN 367,000
Funny, every heat wave, every storm that is marginally larger than average is proof of global warming.
However anyone who even implies that the third major cold wave of the year says anything about global warming is a “willfully ignorant f#33wit”.
If these guys couldn’t have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
David Tolleris says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:18 am
“Fox news commentators and their conservative followers who make a comment that TODAY in denver its 58 degrees … ” so where is Global warming ? …” do NOT grasp science.
They do not see the difference between a cool day in July and climate”
I trust you will agree then when it’s hot in July that this isn’t global warming, it’s weather. You’d be going against the greats: Hansen, Mann,………. One could argue, though the record cool July night and day in several places in Alabama (57C & 81 the other day) when the Team about 10 years ago was been telling us that snow will even be a thing of the past with global warming, Arctic ice will be gone, etc. This is especially true when temperatures of 100 years ago have also been pushed down and recent temps pried up by the temp keepers. Note the recent paper talking about extremes getting worse with global warming!! They are getting worried about this stuff and have widened their nets.
@ David Tolleris –
When a major pillar of the CAGW movement is the dog and pony show by Jim Hansen in 1988 where he had the room purposely warmed to drive home his opinion in the minds of the Senators and press in attendance, the Climate Fantasy Project having a similar stunt blow up in their faces is nothing but poetic justice.
It’s important to remember, hot days are climate change and cool days are just weather. /sarc
JimS says:
“Mr. Weir is only partially right when he said “weather is not climate.” When it is cold, that is weather; when it is hot, that is climate change”
Jim,
That was how it used to be. When it got too cold for too long, that changed. In recent years. Research has discovered(only after the warming of the 80’s/90’s stopped) that, now blizzards and extreme cold are from global warming.
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/john-holdren-video-polar-vortex
“A growing body of evidence suggests that the kind of extreme cold being experienced by much of the United States as we speak is a pattern that we can expect to see with increasing frequency as global warming continues,” Holdren asserts”
Funny how every single kind of bad weather is now linked with man burning fossil fuels/increasing CO2 and climate change/global warming.
In 32 years observing weather as an operational meteorologist and studying weather going back over a century, the evidence I see is that the last 3 decades have featured less extreme weather than previous decades…………with the exception of excessive rain events.
latecommer2014 says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:47 am
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There was a poll a number of years ago that asked people if they believed that evolution based on random mutations alone was a proven fact.
Apparently 58% of conservatives answered no.
From this the lackwits concluded that 58% of conservatives believe in creationism and hence believe the earth is only 5000 years old.
In other words, from a lone fact, they added two unsupportable assumptions to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.
@ David Tolleris 11:51.
Sure he is.
However using the CAGW Team IPCC ™ handbook.
Storms, heat waves, floods, droughts, famine are all signs and symptoms of CAGW.
The concept that science supports the myth of the magic gas is in tatters, the credibility of pathetic wee creatures such as Bill Weird and Al Gore is long gone.
Certainly some people have difficulty understanding basic concepts about science, for example extrapolating linear doom from cyclic behaviour is a classic.
#1 play from the UN IPCC.
Of course I am sure you have those empirical measurements conclusively linking rising emissions of carbon dioxide by mankind to the ever warming estimated Average Global Temperature.
Perhaps you could share them with the UN, as I am sure the eternally grateful IPCC would insist on granting you a Nobel Peace Prize.
What percentage of the planets current recovery from the little ice age is Anthropogenic?
Somehow the IPCC cannot find the first and cannot define the second, but by your comments above, you appear to be certain of both.
Or are you here to remind us mere mortals, that while standards are good; Double Standards are even better?
As the Media and the organizations concerned about CAGW have long used every weather event as evidence of their fantasy, yet you leap in to decry any who mock them using their own metric.
Finally AGW is yet to be measured and is indistinguishable from natural climate so far.
CAGW is the meme under debate and subject to mockery.
Catastrophic…no disaster? No problem.. No funding.
cassidy421 says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:51 am
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I had the displeasure of dealing with Russel Seitz over on National Review, and I can assure he is as arrogant and ignorant as that post makes him seem.
Like Obama he’s been told since an early age that he is the smartest person in any room and actually believes it.
elmer says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:09 am
Pardon my ignorance, but what’s a f*ckstick?
REPLY: look down – Anthony
Okay, what’s an ignorant f*ckstick? Is Weir saying that’s where all of his intellect, wisdom, and emotions lie? It must be because I know it’s not stemming from that void between his ears. If only my f*ckstick had the intellectual power as his then maybe I’d get paid to be a schmuck as well.
What shall we do with the drunken sailor who believed in global warming as he believed in God forgetting the all important: King James Bible Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
On atheism one often hears the argument that something comes from nothing.
One can make the case that without God we could do no science.
I think it more probable that God exists than it is that something comes from nothing.
This prompted by the 58% comment.
David Tolleris,
Quick question. When climate scientists say ‘while no specific weather event can be attributed to global warming, it’s still the sort of thing we expect to see in a warming world.’, you jump on them for that, am I right?
CNN 627,000
MSNBC 726,000
Kinda say says it all, doesn’t it?
Have to agree with Paul about how explicit one needs to be to make a valid point. I would like to be able to refer my students to WUWT without risking blowback from some irate parent who doesn’t like her elementary student exposed to R-rated content.
Per:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twit
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twit :
The kind of person that makes a retarded chimp look smart. They often can be found leaving definitions for their own name or the names of their friends on urbandictionary.com
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twit :
A moron with absolutely no sense.
See also Paris Hilton
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Twit :
According to Oxford Student’s Dictionary: a foolish person
You twit
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Twit :
a pregnant goldfish
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I threw in that last one for the trivia buffs 🙂
Sorry David Tolleris…. BSNBC wasn’t able to comment. They were busy slamming the Jews and reflecting on the crazy Tea Party and bible thumpers……. Have a bowl of Progressive Soup and Chill…………….
“After what I experienced recently, I’m beginning to think that most climate alarmists are nothing more than emotional children disguising themselves as professionals.”
Agreed Anthony. I came to a similar conclusion a few years ago and nowadays refer to it as “arrested puberty”. When arrested puberty becomes permanent you get juvenile delinquents. This pretty much explains everything. And not just what we are seeing about climate change, it infects everything.
Paul says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:23 am
Hi Paul,
Part of the problem is that all too much of this kind of bad behavior has been ignored and in doing so there is a silent consent to it. What needs to be done is that the bad behavior be highlighted and denounced as unacceptable thereby creating the opportunity for learning and growth. I agree that some people won’t learn because they do not wish to but by putting the lesson in the spotlight others may learn about what is acceptable behavior.
my 2 cents,
Joe
Show of hands – how many of us would be fired for making that kind of obscene and politically charged comment using their professional credentials (@BillWeirCNN)?
And journalists are supposed to strive to be unbiased.
These people start as angry young men and fail to learn anything from life. They often expect others to bow to their 10, 20, 30 years of knowledge and experience but the reality is that both the knowledge and experience they have is usually just one years worth the is now 10, 20 or 30 years old.
The idiot from CNN had a song written about his lack of emotional stability. It is by Billy Joel.
“There’s a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl,
He’s always at home with his back to the wall.
And he’s proud of his scars and the battles he’s lost,
He struggles and bleeds as he hangs on the cross-
And he likes to be known as the angry young man.
Give a moment or two to the angry young man,
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand.
He’s been stabbed in the back, he’s been misunderstood,
It’s a comfort to know his intentions are good.
He sits in a room with a lock on the door,
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man.
I believe I’ve passed the age of consciousness & righteous rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight.
I once believed in causes too, I had my pointless point of view,
Life went on no matter who was wrong or right, ohhhhh
And there’s always a place for the angry young man,
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand.
And he’s never been able to learn from mistakes,
He can’t understand why his heart always breaks.
His honor is pure and his courage as well,
He’s fair and he’s true and he’s boring as hell!
And he’ll go to the grave as an angry old man.
Whoa, and there’s always a place for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend, he refuses to crawl,
He’s always at home with his back to the wall.
And he’s proud of his scars and the battles he’s lost,
He struggles and bleeds ‘til he hangs on the cross
And he likes to be known as the angry young man.”
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“Head in the sand”, “never been able to learn from mistakes”, “boring as hell”
Yep!
I am sorry to have to break this to you, but CNN is not a news network, it is a state run propaganda channel. White-house, Pentagon and other government agencies use CNN to get their PR/info/disinfo out to the public. Come on, I live in sweden and understand this!
If I didn’t know better, then I would say that the ‘Gore effect’ is increasing in magnitude. Thus we are all doomed to spend the rest of our days shivering in our cold homes with the stains of the wet melted ice cream bars still fresh on our clothing, while we wait for the food supply to slowly run out
Begs the question — Is there such a thing as an enlightened f*ckstick?
There was a day not too long ago that use of language of that type from a person working at and identifying with an American company would, at the very least, lead to a long discussion with HR. There are some things you hate to see change.
David Tolleris,
Where can I find someone making the comment that one cold day proves AGW is wrong?
You’re no better than Weir.
You both leaped with the alarmist’s straw man nonsense that mendaciously morphs every mention of a cold day by skeptics into an assertion never made.
Worse yet you then ginned up some motivation to attach to what was never claimed.
Hypocrisy is the elephant in the room because alarmists have been attributing every weather event as evidence of climate change.
Skeptics, in pointing out some cold Gore day oythjr any other observation, are simply mocking the alarmist loons. They are NOT literally asserting, implying, suggesting or concluding that it is “proof” of anything.
Now why don’t you go apply your Weirology to something real.
I don’t think I made my point very well earlier.
The Warmists believe that the Global average temperature right now is the Climate. They also believe that temperatures correlate very closely over the entire globe, so that if it is a little warmer here today it is a little warmer everywhere. That is the foundation of their whole theory.
In other words they believe weather is climate. Skeptics though are not allowed to make that claim.
The analogy is exactly like Blacks claiming that they can’t be racists, only whites can be racists.
Speaking of turning ugly, I see that 2 of the recent pings which seem to lead to a break in my wireless connection have come from Colorado State University. I wonder who might be pinging me from there, 128.9.168.98 and 129.82.138.44.
Beginning to wonder if the famed “Hockey Stick” has anything to do with Weirs “F@#kstick” , so much for unvarnished unbiased truth in journalism….. Glad you have a healthy sense of humor Anthony, ” look down” ba ha ha ha ha……
Gin@joltmail.net says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:11 am
“Definition of insanity: Doing (or claiming?) the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.”
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, that’s stupidity. Insanity is holding two opposing ideas in your head at the same time, believing in both at the same time. Like “Global Warming causes warming. Global Warming causes cooling.” or “Global Warming causes flooding. Global Warming causes drought.”
John Slayton: I’m sure I’d be concerned about parents’ objections to language seen by their kids on WUWT. It might be a good opportunity to teach both that intentions are more important than the choice of words used to communicate them, and that the use of socially acceptable vocabulary to injure others is as unacceptable as the words they don’t want their kids repeating in loud voices while waiting in a supermarket checkout line. Similar language is ubiquitous, and I know many parents’ concerns are based more on their fear that others will assume the kid learned the terminology from Mom or Dad than on the kid’s familiarity with the words.
Never have so many pompous know-it-alls had such acute cognitive dissonance thrust upon them by the scientific facts. I can actually understand their anger at now having to somehow avoid becoming laughing stocks in public.
From Wikipedia (I think this is OK. I don’t think Connolly’s got to it yet):
“An early version of cognitive dissonance theory appeared in Leon Festinger’s 1956 book, When Prophecy Fails. This book gives an account of the deepening of cult members’ faith following the failure of a cult’s prophecy that a UFO landing was imminent. The believers met at a pre-determined place and time, believing they alone would survive the Earth’s destruction. The appointed time came and passed without incident. They faced acute cognitive dissonance: had they been the victim of a hoax? Had they donated their worldly possessions in vain? Most members chose to believe something less dissonant to resolve reality not meeting their expectations: they believed that the aliens had given Earth a second chance, and the group was now empowered to spread the word that earth-spoiling must stop. The group dramatically increased their proselytism despite the failed prophecy”
Björn from Sweden says:
July 31, 2014 at 12:46 pm
I am sorry to have to break this to you, but CNN is not a news network, it is a state run propaganda channel. White-house, Pentagon and other government agencies use CNN to get their PR/info/disinfo out to the public. Come on, I live in sweden and understand this!
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But ONLY if the Government is control by leftists… it’s a mostly a DNC news channel.
Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
My goodness, but these climate cultists are sensitive types. I guess that’s what happens when all the empirical evidence turns against your preferred truth.
Paul says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:23 am
“Anthony,
With all due respect, I don’t think it’s very professional to re-post this kind of stuff. Please just ignore it. Otherwise you risk sinking to junior high levels yourself.”
Sorry Paul. If you haven’t noticed, we are in the middle of an all out assault on our freedoms and liberties by extreme left, wing progressives, who are using climate change for political purposes. Now is not the time to play nice – they certainly aren’t!
Also, for those here who opine that “weather is not climate” – do you want links to all of the online articles from CAGW extremists (like Al Gore) conflating weather with climate change??? Can you say Katrina?
…it’s almost like they want to be stupid
reminds me of the time a nephew said his first cuss word
David Tolleris sorry once the warmest jumped on ever extreme but not usual weather event has ‘proof’ of AGW , because reality failed to play its part in the cause , they give any up chance of pulling the weather is not climate trick.
Oddly the 30 year claim, is no more scientifically valid than 29 or 31 years is just a nice round number which by lucky chance gives them many years it which to claim ‘if not now it will in the future ‘ and is the length most them will have serious careers in the area . They my be no good at science but no one can bet them when its comes to ‘luck’
goldminor said on July 31, 2014 at 12:58 pm:
Did “whois” in terminal for first one, got among other things:
It’s part of a 128.9.x.x block assigned to “USC/Information Sciences Institute”.
Pasting the other one into the address reveals it is also of a similar block, but assigned to CSU (CSUNET).
http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets;q=129.82.138.44?showDetails=true&showARIN=false&ext=netref2
I’d try the CSU Tech contact info at the second link, I would think they’d be receptive to keeping their systems from aggravating the townies.
The icing on the cake is the support tweeted in reply by ‘Jeff’. Appearantly, spouting off obscenity-laced, spittle-flecked sentence fragments equates to “calling out” an opponent in the eye of a Leftie. How apropos.
Worry not, though, friends. As his cutesy “painted-hands-forming-a-globe” avatar hints at, he cares so very much about the world. To sample The Office, Jeff believes in a world of tolerance and respect, and if you don’t agree, you can get the hell out.
Fully 70% of Seattle is comprised of ‘Jeffs’. Every day, I dream that I’ve moved away.
That is the funniest aspect of this. The AGW defenders are so totally clueless they do not even realize that they are being mocked for their total lack of consistency and that they themselves are the ones who are ignoring the scientific evidence and beating the drums of hysteria based on synthetic data that is so flawed it is not just wrong but almost 180 degrees out. I have pointed out to some AGW defenders that the real data (actual measurements) are falling out the bottom of the model predicted range of warming to the point that even the high points of the real measured data no longer crosses the lowest bound of the models predictions.
They just shake their head and you can see a “does not compute error” scroll across their face then they jump on some other psudo fact and start beating the drum again as if nothing ever happened.
On Monday, CTV National News broadcast a weather is climate segment, showing various weather events around the country. A possible tornado, heavy rain, forest fires due to summer weather. One woman was interviewed who said essentially “this isn’t Oklahoma, we aren’t supposed to get tornados”.
David Philips (As a senior climatologist for Environment Canada, David Phillips is Canada’s weather guru.) said “This is the new climate”, implying that climate change is causing these weather events. “We aren’t getting new weather, we’re getting more extreme weather” he said.
The term “Global Warming” as been dropped from the leftists news media in Canada and “Climate Change” is declared and repeated often.
I still find it funny when Environment Canada put out a warning earlier this year warning Canadians that we were going to experience some pleasant weather. And it was pleasant. Is pleasant weather a result of global warming / climate change ?
This will backfire on Bill Weir anyway because like me people will look up the “I’m too hot” campaign and see that not only was the free ice cream stunt a disaster in Colorado but also that this Summer has been pretty cool all over the country, lowering public concern about global warming even more than it already is.
philincalifornia,
I have been fascinated for a long time with Festinger’s Seekers. Their belief in a shaman’s assertions is no different from many climate alarmists’ belief in assertions of runaway global warming. In both cases, it is a religion.
In 2003 Michael Crichton spoke in San Francisco. Here is a partial transcript:
I see no real difference between Mrs Keech’s Seekers, and many of the wild-eyed believers in the “carbon” scare. To me, that is very scary, because they have the government supporting their pseudo-science.
“Gin@joltmail.net says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:11 am
Definition of insanity: Doing (or claiming?) the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.”
Gin, I know everybody says that is the definition of ‘insanity’ but here is the actual definition or definitions, according to Merriam Webster anyway. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insanity
1: a deranged state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder (as schizophrenia)
2: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or as removes one from criminal or civil responsibility
3 a : extreme folly or unreasonableness
b : something utterly foolish or unreasonable
Another cold, rainy Algore day does not disprove AGW but it does prove that God has a sense of humor.
So what’s a ‘CNN’? Never seen it, and in light of the above, will never seek it out.
cue satire
fade in satire:
“Climate is what we expect, weather is what we get.” – Mark Twain
“You can’t have a cold and wet climate without cold and wet weather.” – anon (?)
Fox news could have phrased their tweet better, although if you break down the statement it’s technically not wrong. That day’s weather is part of the aggregation of weather that defines climate. So, viola! Some tiny fraction of the climate for that city was derived in part from that day’s weather. Therefore climate == weather.
See, the way that works in on par with the Kaya identity. Muhahaha! I have them now. I strike a blow for unscientific lay persons everywhere! Now someone fetch me my astrology chart. I need to know whether or not to buy a lottery ticket.
exit satire stage left:
Only denying the need for panic…Willie.
One sure way to know when you are winning the argument is when the other side uses profanity and insults in their rebuttals. Keep our discussion clean, point you finger at them and laugh. It drives them nuts..
I don’t consider Fox news to be an unbiased news outlet. Who can forget this little gem of factual news.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/mgspsw/war-on-christmas—s–t-s-getting-weird-edition
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/ev6h6r/war-on-christmas—s–t-s-getting-weird-edition—black-santa
I don’t watch the news if I want fiction I’ll read a book.
It’s not climate until climate scientists say it’s climate. Lesser mortals are unable to discern, and have no right to express an opinion on the matter.
IOW, weather ain’t climate until the fat climate lady sings.
Where do they find these prissy, precious little dribbledicks?
elmer said on July 31, 2014 at 11:09 am:
I thought you were from Minnesota. Ah well, it takes a certain type of experience to know what it is.
Spend your miserable snowy icy winters driving nothing but something with a manual transmission, preferably a 4×4 P/U. Nothing more fun than trying to get moving uphill on a slippery slope while you coordinate clutch, brake, and gas with all three feet.
Then have just one tough week of terrible roads while driving a 4×4 with a competent automatic transmission.
Then you’ll know. Someone offers you use of a manual when the roads are bad, you’ll point at it and issue the correct identification, “F*ckstick!”
Re: Paul says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:23 am
“Anthony,
With all due respect, I don’t think it’s very professional to re-post this kind of stuff. Please just ignore it. Otherwise you risk sinking to junior high levels yourself.”
Sorry, not buying the B/S. These inbred alarmists will participate in stagecraft to push their alarmist viewpoint, going as far as to cranking the heat up in a building to make it feel hot while they are pushing their diatribe, and yammer to no end anytime there is a storm about globular warming. Pointing out the hypocrisy and childish behavior is not stooping to their level of filth, it is just highlighting it so that it doesn’t pass unnoticed. It’s called accountability.
Anthony placing it here serves as a handy reference should anyone wish to sweep it under the rug as if it never happened.
Regarding anything from CNN (founded by a guy who said that the population of the earth had to reduce by some 86% back in the ’80s, ol’ Captain Courageous ‘isself, who was p.o.’d that he had to put up with so many trespassers…but when you own nearly one third of all the land west of the Pecos, I guess you should expect such things…):
The old saying says it best: No news is good news—so I stopped having anything to do with CNN over two decades ago.
A ragtag bunch who run an on-line rag that makes profit hyping created crises and other hoaxes. They have much to be embarrassed about (this latest childish outburst by one of theirs notwithstanding): The much derided National Enquirer’s reporters not only outed John Edwards’ affair (when CNN and the rest of the very-Left-Leaning Media stood behind him, expressing opinions as fact), they then caught him on camera with his mistress and child, again scooping CNN et al.
Bah.
CNN is to journalism as marxism is to Free Market Economics.
Ah yes, it seems Mr. Weir is experiencing a personal digital disaster. Reminds me of a course I once watched 😉
David Tolleris says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:18 am
“They do not see the difference between a cool day in July and climate…”
When you add up all of today’s weather everywhere, that is the atmospheric climate for today. A distinction between climate and weather would seem to depend on an arbitrary choice of a time scale. We may say the atmospheric climate means all places, and weather relates to a much smaller place. That is a difference of size scale, arguably also arbitrary.
if you don’t have a legitimate argument, then you resort to name calling. the TRUTH hurts, that is apparent in the wieners, er wiers response.
Mr. Weir is a tad testy. I wonder if his grandmothers know about his profanity problem?
Mark W wrote: “There was a poll a number of years ago that asked people if they believed that evolution based on random mutations alone was a proven fact.
Apparently 58% of conservatives answered no.”
If the poll question actually was over whether “evolution (is) based on random mutations alone”, then the correct answer IS no.
There is this little thing called natural selection, and without that essential quasi-deterministic component to SUPPLEMENT random variation, the millions of different intricate, highly perfected adaptations that make up the biosphere would not have evolved.
It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to discover that some preening liberal academic would try to show that conservatives are ignorant using a poll question which is itself fatally defective.
Hey folks, lighten up. A sportscaster moving up to CNN anchor isn’t like he was somebody with no accomplishments being elected President or something. After all :
“On May 25, 2011, he was an expert to the game show Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.”
How many of us could have that on our Wikipedia entry, huh? Yeah, really. (I wonder what the topic was.)
I trust the ice cream was prepared and kept frozen using renewable energy.
You are confusing a medical definition with an aphorism:
In modern usage an aphorism is generally understood to be a concise statement containing a subjective truth or observation cleverly and pithily written.
The common usage of the aphorism about insanity is because it quickly and humorously comments on irrational behavior.
The thing is though. Anthony could open another blog devoted just to people who cussed him on the internet.
The author has no idea how twitter works. A user cannot delete another user’s tweets.
Slade says: July 31, 2014 at 2:45 pm
I don’t consider Fox news to be an unbiased news outlet. Who can forget this little gem of factual news.
…//thedailyshow.cc.com/video…
Someone who gets his news from the Daily Show knocking Fox. That is choice.
“Weather is not climate…”
No, but climate is weather, you ignorant dunderhead!
TYoke says:
July 31, 2014 at 3:55 pm
Mark W wrote: “There was a poll a number of years ago that asked people if they believed that evolution based on random mutations alone was a proven fact.
Apparently 58% of conservatives answered no.”
Well if they answered anything but no the way this question is worded they would be wrong. Evolution based on random mutations is not a “fact” it is a theory. One that is strongly supported by the factual evidence but it will never be a fact unless someone happens to invent a time machine.
Natural selection it is called and it has to do with variation within the species. Thus species evolve into new species, and you do not need to invoke mutation to account for evolution.
Yes, weather is not climate, but Gore’s group were handing out ice creams with the tacit implication that the weather IS representative of climate. Thus Weir’s outrageous outburst would have been more correctly directed at Gore’s group.
elmer says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:09 am
Pardon my ignorance, but what’s a f*ckstick?
REPLY: look down – Anthony
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A hairy pot-belly. Who knew?
As point of order on this science blog.
Evolution theory as Darwin described, and universally accepted, is not based on “random mutations.” Charles Darwin in the mid-19th Century had no concept of DNA mutations, random or otherwise. He saw traits, behaviors, and physical characteristics that aided or hindered a species reproductive success in a given environment, and that when the environment changed, so did the traits or characteristics in subsequent generations or closely related species in slightly different environments. Successive generations were then naturally selected for or against those traits (phenotypes) (natural selection drives Evolution of new species to fit ecological niches and environmental adaptations). Indeed, there is now evidence that while genetic mutations are what drive most phenotypic differences (the invocation of random genetic mutations only came after the nature of genetic material was understood in the second half of the 1950’s), epigenetic modifications can also be passed down to successive generations (via heritable non-genetic mutations in the germ line) where differing methylation patterns on nucleotide bases that affect gene expression are propagated.
I wonder if Jon Stewart ever noticed this gem on CNN.
I would agree with Mr Weir that Algore’s team, arriving with trucks with “I’m too hot”, demonstrates that the Weather AND Climate Warming Alarmists are willfully ignorant fleshsticks.
Ah now I know. When the MSM announced that June was the hottest June ever (after NCDC or so announced it), that was weather, as it lasted less than 30 years. Funny that all the news then went off on a climate change tangent.
Think the Tourette is caused by cognitive dissonance. Probably widespread in his profession.
Only fairly dumb sheep will follow a Weir Wolf.
But the f-bomb? Will he quote himself on a broadcast?
I tuned out CNN a long time ago. And so have millions of others, apparently.
Henceforth he shall be known as “Bill F……k Weir”
[Watch the language. .mod]
““ painted-hands-forming-a-globe” avatar…”
I assume he is trying to get a grip.
David TRolleris says: “I’m Too Hot”
You and Weir show your true (ugly) colors. If you’re concerned by people conflating “weather” and “climate” the subjects of your ire should be the group that is handing out ice cream and claiming that “I’m Too Hot.” Obviously they couldn’t be too hot, and even if they were “too” hot it wouldn’t be indicative of a problem with the “climate.” This group is foisting a lie on the public in the hopes of affecting onerous changes in laws and regulations for the nation.
Who do you and Weir go after? The people that mocked them when their “I’m Too Hot” stunt backfired. Your buddies were pretty stupid not to check the weather forecast, but of course this stunt was planned months ago and the climate has little to actually do with it. The “climate” is just the latest vehicle for their socialist goals.
I never watch CNN. I am proud to say I never heard of Bill Wier prior to this story. He does seem to have the emotional intelligence of a child.
I don’t get “it”. Without a link to the “wp …” thing, this doesn’t say much.
So, it’s a link back to this post? *shrug*
“The difference is that the conservative whacko religious nut fringe are also generally productive law abiding citizens that aren’t dependent on the welfare state.”
I’m sure coke and heroin addicts say the same thing about each other!
Anyway, I’ll bring up the late (and often wise) Michael Crichton as well:
“According to recent polls, large segments of the American population think the media is attentive to trivia, and indifferent to what really matters. They also believe that the media does not report the country’s problems, but instead is a part of them. Increasingly, people perceive no difference between the narcissistic self-serving reporters asking questions, and the narcissistic self-serving politicians who evade them.”
From ‘Mediasaurus’. If you haven’t read this speech, I recommend it highly:
http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/1.04/mediasaurus_pr.html
It good to see folks here heeding my continued call to shut off the stupid MSM, which includes CNN, MSNBC, ABCCBSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, Time Magazine, and CAGW weather sites like “Weather Underground”. Don’t watch their shows, don’t buy their newspapers/magazines, and don’t access their websites. And tell your friends and family to do the same.
I’m fairly close to cancelling cable – I just don’t watch TV anymore, except for some occasional sports and perhaps a show or two on the History Channel. Advertisers and sponsors and noting the flight from TV and are hammering poorly run cable stations like CNN. Now if we can only get them out of our airports…
I’m having trouble sharing the two great pieces I’d like to share on google+, any way to fix?
I wanted to let the world know Bill Wer’s new nickname “WillfullyIgnorant Fu**stick”!:]
Wier.
I don’t quite understand the update part of this post. how is a message you post on your WUWT account deleted by someone at CNN? Once you post a message only you can delete it unless it has been retweeted, in which case it’s there for as long as the servers archive it.
Not making a statement about the body of the post either way. I think my views on the half-wits at CNN are well known already but I’m pretty au fait with twitter and I just can’t wrap my head around how someone else can remove your message from a conversation without having access to your account.
CaligulaJones says:
July 31, 2014 at 12:29 pm
> CNN 627,000
> MSNBC 726,000
Sharknado 2, the Second One: 2,900,000. 🙂
David Tolleris says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:51 am “…all AGW theory is total bullshit…..” Well you got that right. You’re trying SO hard to turn the other cheek, be a nice guy, be upright and oh so correct. They don’t give a shit, and they will destroy life as you knew it. But you will continue to be a nice guy. Get real. Step up to the plate and start shouting them down. Vote them out of office. Send them to prison. They ask for it.
philjourdan says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:18 am
He has to be a kid. Only a kid would be so ignorant as to think the filth words reflect on anyone but himself.
That comment was then echoed by many others. But I took a class from Grog Mooers about “Heart Virtue,” the virtue that is closest to one’s heart. One of the ways that you can tell what your heart virtue is–is by what makes you mad.
My heart virtue is the nurturance of intelligence, and increasing the numbers, joy, and vitality of all life, especially people and my own family. I am also heavily into science and truth. The alarmists cut very bluntly and directly across those things, calling up down, black white and good “evil.” They have killed myriads of people minimum. They scream with horror at a COLD 57F planet ever warming up, they call pH 8.1 “acid” and they call the very basis of terrestrial life (CO2) a pollutant.
I get a great deal madder than any alarmist. In my own mind, I use language much more ferocious than what is reported here. So I understand their anger. I do not fault them for that, but for their lack of respect for truth and for life.
Mr. Weir and a CNN cameraman came to the International Conference on Climate Change at Las Vegas in early July. He chose to interview only two people (as best I know), Lord Monckton and me. Surrounded by top notch Ph.D. scientists who came with great papers debunking global warming, he chose to ignore them and talk to two old men with lesser degrees. From his very first question he was hostile and disrespectful. I begged him to interview the scientist and get the real story that debunks the global warming hype that comes out of Washington. He laughed at me and said that if a reporter could destroy the global warming science, which is supported by 97 percent of scientist, that reporter would be as famous as Woodward and Bernstien, but that was impossible because the science is settled and ….. I suggested he talk to Patrick Moore and Fred Singer. He said something about the payroll of the Kock (?) brothers. He said he was going to travel around the world and gather he evidence of global warming.
Wier is producing one of those new prime time hour long documentaries for CNN. I am bracing myself for his attack. I am sure he will dismiss me as a flat earther nut job. I am bracing myself. He has a substantial background. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Weir
Steve from Rockwood says:
July 31, 2014
REPLY: look down – Anthony
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A hairy pot-belly. Who knew?
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Now everyone knows you’ve got a ‘dickie do’ problem.
Clearly Mr. Weir has been afflicted with decorum disruption. He would know that had he not deleted his original post which included my original comment. Don’t you just love objective journalists?
Dave T. – 97% of climate scientists believe climate change started in 1975. 97% of WUWT readers believe climate change has been going on for billions of years.
David Tolleris says:
Most of Fox nations viewers ( as we know ( are religiously oriented people that hate or distrust science. 58% of all conservatives think the world is 10,000 old or less.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/science_and_maths_knowledge_makes_you_sceptical/
“…because people classed as “egalitarian communitarians” (roughly speaking, left-wingers) are always highly concerned about climate change, and become slightly more so as they acquire more science and numeracy. Unfortunately, however, “hierarchical individualists” (basically, right-wingers) are quite concerned about climate change when they’re ignorant: but if they have any scientific, mathematic or technical education this causes them to become strongly sceptical.”
Bloke down the pub says:
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July 31, 2014 at 12:00 pm
elmer says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:09 am
Pardon my ignorance, but what’s a f*ckstick?
REPLY: look down – Anthony
When I looked down I saw a foot, at least it was 12″ , though I don’t use it a a rule.
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You shouldn’t look down on the unemployed!
David Tolleris says:
July 31, 2014 at 11:51 am
…But if one were to take a look at some other Blogs such as lets say JOHN COLEMANS or REAL SCIENCE… You see numerous references being made to the fact that… Because we had a colder than normal winter…or a in active hurricane season… or a cool weak in the middle of July… that all AGW theory is total bullshit.
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Oh no no no !
You misunderstand.
CAGW was what was preached and CAGW was BS from the start.
It always was and the big boys always knew it.
They got you suckers to come along and help.
They still can’t get by the null hypothesis thingy.
Because climate changes, all the time…including today.
cn
You will not find me using weather events to debunk global warming. I use the lack of any verification of the computer models predicted temperature increases or the lack of the predicted mid level equatorial warm spot as failure to of the data to validate the theory of carbon dioxide as a super greenhouse gas that produces extraordinary warming through a radiative forcing interaction with water vapor. I never point to weather events to debunk the warming alarmists. But when they use weather events to hype global warming, I do point out that such events have been occurring throughout the history of observation and there is a lack of any causation between the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere and the events they are using to hype their alarmism.
Here’s a video that might help. Bill Weir’s Trip of a lifetime – where he recounts jetting needlessly around the world.
Another video carries a certain bit of irony, as Weir expresses a personal renunciation of childish twitter outbursts now that he has become a big time reporter.
Personally I think it is a positive sign that such behaviour and bad language is becoming the norm with the alarmist brigade. Once one has to resort to this barrel scraping level, one knows the argument is lost. Its just a matter of time before they emerge from the denial phase.
John Coleman says:
“…Wier is producing one of those new prime time hour long documentaries for CNN. … He has a substantial background.”
Well OK then, I guess we’ll add Weir to the pantheon of Mann et al. Looking forward (downward?) to seeing Josh’s cartoon on this episode!
RE: REPLY: look down – Anthony
Patient: Doc, You gotta help me. I’m so fat I can’t see my privates!
Doctor: Have you tried to diet?
Patient, in a panic: Dye it? WHAT COLOR IS IT NOW??!!!!
{starts at the relevant comments 5:23}
Sorry about the mix up on the prior
papiertigre says:
July 31, 2014 at 9:45 pm
So would an example of an educated f*ckstick be one that knows to wear a raincoat when conditions are wet?
Ah, now I know why the polar bear made of ice by activists outside the IPCC conference i Copenhagen 2009 refused to melt; it was hit by the Gore effect!
May one call it “Ursus Gorus”? After all, Gore has been associated with bears before, as ManBearPig.
The Warmists are getting so angry these days…I love that squealing noise they make…it is not the sound of the confident or victorious!
All I can picture is the local ‘news,’ and Al Gore, every time the temperature sets a heat record, by even half a degree, spewing ‘Global Warming/Climate Change/DOOOOOM!’ …And yet, every time there is a COLD temperature record, the same people snarling ‘temperature isn’t climate.’
Welcome to the world of ‘being labeled a conservative’ by the lefty news. Hate-filled profane outbursts show that you are ‘hip’ and ‘cool’ and get you noticed in the jungle of Bill Maher/John Stewart inspired hip hate sites …..
Seems like you were censored not for what you said, but for who you are. The same thing happened to me at the Conversation, a publicly funded academic website when I linked to Bob Tilsdale’s article here. My comment was wiped, plus all the comments replying to me, though other comments making similar points remained up. It’s pretty serious when quoting a certain person, or a person of a certain type, gets you banned from an academic website.
Their take:
CNN anchor shuts down Fox climate trolls with one brilliant tweet
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/31/cnn_anchor_shuts_down_fox_climate_trolls_in_one_brilliant_tweet/
The correct take:
Pat Sajak @patsajak 7:05 PM – 10 May 2014
Very hot weather: “We’re all going to die!” Very cold weather: “There’s a difference between climate & weather, moron!”
The alarmists don’t “get” parody either:
Pat Sajak @patsajak 8:38 PM – 19 May 2014
I now believe global warming alarmists are unpatriotic racists knowingly misleading for their own ends.
if a reporter could destroy the global warming science, which is supported by 97 percent of scientist, that reporter would be as famous as Woodward and Bernstien, but that was impossible because the science is settled and
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Woodward and Bernstien are famous for reporting what no one else could show. Weir is trying to become famous for reporting what – that 97% of scientists are correct?
It 97% of all scientists believe something and they are right, that isn’t news. It is simply what you would expect. If 97% of scientists believe something and they are wrong – then you have a news story.
So, in reporting that grass is green, Weir shows that he is no Woodward and Bernstien. Instead he is like a cheerleader — hurrah for our team.
Larry Ledwick says:
July 31, 2014 at 4:01 pm
“You are confusing a medical definition with an aphorism:”
True, I think the current “aphorism” of “insanity” of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, sounds more like the definition for “The Scientific Method” which would explain why most scientists are insane.
This Weir character apparently a poor man’s Michael Moore (#14) is clamoring onto the Global Warming band wagon well past its prime so he’s a decade late and brain cell short.
He is getting absolutely PWNED in his twitter feed.
My fave so far is the one reminding him that he works for a network that blamed global warming for the near-pass of earth by a large asteroid.
Weather is not climate
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not according to CNN, which promotes “extreme” weather events as proof of climate change.
by that same logic, the absence of extreme weather must be proof that climate is not changing. No wonder Weir is upset. the weather won’t cooperate.
The tweets that Watts claims were deleted by Weir (something that isn’t actually possible) are still extant. Here are links to the tweets:
https://twitter.com/wattsupwiththat/status/494907628149936130
https://twitter.com/wattsupwiththat/status/494928512449404928
So let me get this right, Weir is working on a project that documents weather and blaming it on global warming, and on the flip side throwing a tantrum when Fox News jokes about how chilly it is outside in July. Pretty safe to assume that falsehoods will be presented in Weir’s piece, such as more tornadoes, etc. I doubt we see data to back up his weather is worse claims throughout his propaganda piece.
Here is a article on Breitbart about Weir from May. It’s about his dismal ratings and CNN’s. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/05/13/cnn-bill-weir-hits-15-year-low
It’s standard policy for the EPA to have hearings regarding such things as cole-fired power plant emissions in a part of the country that is not coal-fired power plant intensive. They get as far as they can from the people most involved in what the EPA is seeking to damage. Nice people, the Extremely Political Asses.
“He is getting absolutely PWNED in his twitter feed.”
I don’t see anything newer than 30 Jul. All being deleted or I have to be a twitter member to see anything newer?
It is a Cult. At this point the cultists are beginning to realize all is not well. It is not anger we see, it is fear. They are emotionally invested in their cult to the point that any doubt that creeps in is totally devastating to their id. They are beginning to realize that without the fulfillment of their cult beliefs they are of no value to the world or even themselves. Think about it, everything that you are is valueless, ridiculed. Everything that you believed was incorrect, a lie told to you to extract money, honor, from you and everyone around you, a con. You go from “hero” to “dupe” to “accomplice”. If you have no morals or ethics that is not a problem, but if you are genuinely a good concerned person looking for a replacement for conventional religion this is a very large problem. And I hope they choke on it.
I always find it a little bit amusing when climate alarmists like Weir get so emotional and start engaging in name-calling whenever the subject of CAGW skeptics or the contrary evidence comes up. Their emotional and spiritual devotion to the Holy Faith (CAGW) takes precedence over all else, and their emotions and behavior demonstrate that we are indeed dealing with people who are treating CAGW like the religion that it has become.
With little or no scientific background, people like Weir have no understanding of how science and scientific discourse is supposed to work and how it differs from the way that he and alarmist “scientists” like Mann tend to behave in the face of a controversial issue like CAGW. Weir and his ilk just cannot understand that science is a matter of facts (from observation) , logic and reasoning (IMHO) wherein one does not make unprovable excuses to casually dismiss evidence that contradicts the theory at issue.
“Journalists” like Weir are getting increasingly lazy these days wherein they no longer feel the need to conduct investigative journalism wherein they dig deep into the issue to ensure all the facts have been brought to light. Only the “facts” that jive with their personal beliefs matter.
It is sad and frustrating to see the way journalism these days has deteriorated since the days when I was a kid in the 1960’s watching Walter Cronkite on TV. I can only wonder if those days will ever be back someday….
There are 2 kinds of people, those who are skeptical of all the global warming hype and those who use the word f*cksticks.
Thanks to Anthony I now know what that means, I guess it kinda makes sense if you think about it.
In Bill Weir, I see only a drowning man panicking, lashing out as the inevitable approaches.
With low ratings, he is becoming a nobody. The narcissists worst nightmare.
“I can only wonder if those days will ever be back someday….”
No, I doubt that will happen in the corporate mainstream news media which is nearly all trivial, superficial or one-sided garbage. It’s all about viewership and market share, so they cater to the lowest common denominator of viewer. Yellow journalism everywhere.
The future of news reporting and analysis is on-line. That’s how I realized, having educated myself on-line prior to Iraq War II about the Iraqi WMD BS, the history of the totally artificial construct called “Iraq,” and the most likely underlying motives for the US and UK to invade while the US mainstream media beat the drums for war and anyone who told the other side of the story was fired, as Phil Donahue was fired by MSNBC, that we’d very likely end up with exactly what is going on in Iraq today.
Just as an aside – In the last few months I’ve noticed that public areas with televisions tuned to news outlets (i.e. airport terminals, doctor’s offices, etc.) are now featuring Fox News rather than CNN. I wonder why that is….
Specter says:
August 1, 2014 at 10:33 am
“Just as an aside – In the last few months I’ve noticed that public areas with televisions tuned to news outlets (i.e. airport terminals, doctor’s offices, etc.) are now featuring Fox News rather than CNN. I wonder why that is….”
Hack attack by the Syrian Electronic Army to weaken the morale of the ruling American Liberal Front.
Björn from Sweden says: July 31, 2014 at 12:46 pm
I am sorry to have to break this to you, but CNN is not a news network, it is a state run propaganda channel.
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Yes, but which state??
If you look at their adverts, sponsorship and news specials, it is clear that CNN is actually the propaganda network of the Middle East states. And if you look at their coverage of the recent Gaza – Israel dispute, it is also apparent that they are the PNN, the Palestinian News Network.
Honestly, they are probably worse than the Biased Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), and i formerly thought that that was impossible.
Ralph
elmer says:
August 1, 2014 at 8:48 am
“…Thanks to Anthony I now know what that means, I guess it kinda makes sense if you think about it.”
Elmer in your case maybe “Fuddstick” is appropriate.
(My sincere apologies elmer. I couldn’t resist.)
“I don’t see anything newer than 30 Jul. All being deleted or I have to be a twitter member to see anything newer?”
They are gonezo – I am not a twitter user.
garymount says:
July 31, 2014 at 1:42 pm
“I still find it funny when Environment Canada put out a warning earlier this year warning Canadians that we were going to experience some pleasant weather. And it was pleasant. Is pleasant weather a result of global warming / climate change ?”
From what I’ve seen the preeminent mode of GW or CC is a rise in daily minimum temps in Northern Temperate Latitudes, mostly in the cold weather months. You can see how this presents a substantial challenge to those who are dedicated to flogging CO2 demonizing Climate Alarmism. It is a pretty hard sell to convince folks from Minnesota, like me, and Canadians that we need to fork over big cash and submit ourselves to the whims of self righteous econazi bureaucrats to avoid the possibility of not having to run our furnaces quite so hard in some future winters.
If he wasn’t so blissfully ignorant himself, you might feel sorry for him. He is unfortunate enough to believe in the B.S. spoon fed to him by those less honest. His obvious lack of intelligence makes him vulnerable to be taken in by the scam. Poor upbringing probably.
Antisocial is the new social.
What beach is near Dulles? Oh, and Dulles is in VA, not DC.
mpainter says:
July 31, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Natural selection it is called and it has to do with variation within the species. Thus species evolve into new species, and you do not need to invoke mutation to account for evolution.
So, mpainter, you must therefore believe that dog breeders could produce a breed of dog that has wings merely by crossbreeding the right varieties of dog. They merely have to keep at it long enough.
If, however, the DNA coding for wings is not to be found within the genetics of any dog, no amount of crossbreeding would result in a dog with wings. It is this realization that caused geneticists to invoke mutation to account for evolution, instead of simple variation within the species.
However, since DNA mutation has only been found to disable functions or structures, and never to produce new ones, the only way to invoke evolution at all is to conflate it with variation within the species.
SR
This is what I love so much about climate catastrophists like Bill, they’re so good at using foul language and insulting anyone who dares to question their faith, making most of us “deniers” appear angelic.
At 11:51 AM on 31 July, David Tolleris had asserted that:
And in that much, Mr. Tolleris (who is himself a meteorologist) is abso-friggin’-lutely right.
Though the humor of this situation obviously has escaped him, I can’t fault him too much for his critical disdain anent Fox News. Hell, I’ve known him for more than thirty years, and he’s not the kind of man who would fail to stay mindful of the biases among Fox’s ex-Journalism majors, too. Were that not enough, in the competition for eyeballs, Fox stations seek the attentions of the simple-minded just as much as do the leftards on the other networks, for the botched and the gullible of whatever political persuasion are more easily parted from their valuta, and the sponsors love them for this.
This, however, does make the Fox news programming a weak reed upon which the rigorously skeptical critics of the “man-made global warming” bogosity ought never to lean, even with appropriate reservations.
So how’s it going, Dave? Still wearing that deerstalker thitherabouts?
@Tucci78 – Wrong Dave. That is not the Dave Tolleris of WXRisk. Check his facebook link.
“Weather is not climate” – Thats going to be a epic stick to beat them over a head with every time there is a tropical storm etc that they try and blame on “climate change”. Weather isn’t climate. But it is when we say it is (When its For CAGW)
As I write this on a fine Aug 5 morning, it is 66 degrees in northern New Jersey. I cannot, in my lifetime, recall a summer that has been this mild. This is climate 2014 Mr. Weir, not weather.
It’s been a cool summer here in Colorado as well. Several daytime highs in the mid 50’s in July and one day in July it was necessary to turn on the heat. The temperature starts out cool, stays cool, it has reached 90 degrees a few time but only for a brief time then fall rapidly back into the 60’s. It’s the coolest summer that anybody ( that has lived here for awhile) can remember.
Steve Reddish:
Nor do need to attribute to me your own musings.I suggest that you learn how to comment without such tactics.