In case you haven’t heard about it, the Senate is having a “denier bashing fest” while they bask in the warmth provided by steam from the coal-fired Capitol Power Plant.
If Jim Hansen and Senator Tim Wirth can turn up the heat (like he did in a Senate hearing in 1988 by turning off the A/C in summer), you’d think these clowns would have the good sense to turn off the fossil fueled heat while they tell everyone how wrong it is to use fossil fuels.
Watch live here:
http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=c-span-2
The Washington Post says it is little more than a fund raiser
Senate Democrats’ donor-friendly global warming show
On Monday night into Tuesday morning, two dozen Senate Democrats — members of the party’s newly-formed Climate Action Task Force — plan to hold an all-night, filibuster-like talkathon on the issue of global warming. “Congress must act,” Hawaii Democratic Sen. Brian Schatz, a leader of the group, said in a statement. “On Monday night we’re going to show the growing number of senators who are committed to working together to confront climate change.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/senate-democrats-donor-friendly-global-warming-show/article/2545354
Don’t tell me…..Hawaii is sinking/tipping over too
As the Washington notes:
Which if there is an epitaph of the Reid senate, that is it.
Is Obama Care pajama boy going to be there?
They’re on the same wavelength…
Why doesn’t Senator Reid, the Majority Leader who kicked-off tonight’s clown show, simply bring the bill to the floor for a vote? Because it doesn’t have anything close to the votes it needs?
They could always re-vote Kyoto, Love to see that thing crash and burn again.
Where to begin… LYING LYING LYING
It could be worse. These geniuses could be working on a solution for the Ukrainian crisis.
/snark
I can’t watch anymore.
It would be fun to query each of these morons about their knowledge of the science on video…Wait, on second thought, that would simply add to our collective shame that our fellow Citizens elected these childish buffoons.
While they’re at it, they should protest ‘Perturbations in the Aether’, ‘The Diminishing Effectiveness of Rabbit’s Feet’ (due to global warming, of course), and the man-caused sharpening of the 90 degree corner of right triangles (models show this to be happening). Maybe ‘Socks Lost in Dryers’, too.
“the growing number of senators”
Meaningless, marketing talk.
Watching the Senate as I write this. It’s truly amazing that the United States Senators in attendance still believe that temperatures are accelerating. It’s as if they refuse to investigate the issue for themselves. Democrat leaders in the Senate are either liars or grossly uninformed.
Spoiler alert: They’ll need your cash contributions to save the world. (For just $5 a day, you can save all of civilization.)
The solutions will be 1) higher taxes, 2) more government regulation, and 3) wealth transfers of various shapes and sizes.
I can see old geezers taking their paws off their share of the gold heist from the Ukraine to rub their greedy hands in glee and to chuckle about the many useful idiots in Washington they’ve bribed with mere change into telling scary sci-fi stories about climate. May there never be a wind chill factor where they’re going.
All for show, and only for show.requiring more “climate change” restrictions ….
But the national ABCNNBCBS media will refuse to tell you (us!) that they DON’T WANT A VOTE to br on record
Too many democrats are up for re-election, and those that are up for re-election are losing. Losing big in many states.
So, the democrats need their crisis, they need their mainstream TV time to pretend to be concerned while they blame “the lack of progress” on the ignorant republican flat-earth deniers anti-science religiously bigoted creationists. But the democrats will at the same time as they condemn repubbies for “no progress” will refuse to hold a real vote, nor any vote that might reduce the current CO2 restrictions and rules that would help restore the economy and jobs. A real vote would be defeated, but would put on record the democrats who want to continue to destroy the economy worldwide.
Senator Joe McCarthy would be so proud of their tactics and cheap sleazy posturing.
Doug S says:
March 10, 2014 at 5:55 pm
Watching the Senate as I write this. It’s truly amazing that the United States Senators in attendance still believe that temperatures are accelerating. It’s as if they refuse to investigate the issue for themselves. Democrat leaders in the Senate are either liars or grossly uninformed.
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The Senators are lying. The issue is not about saving the world from Climate Change and they know it.
In another lifetime my engineering firm was hired to ameliorate the solids discharge from the coal-fired Capitol Power Plant, yes in Washington D.C.
The design incorporated state-of-the art, second and tertiary dust collection.
After the bidding process, the Congress would not appropriate sufficient funds even though my firm offer to complete the project for the budget we advanced. They chose not to proceed with the project.
There was a Democratic Congress, House and Senate. Such hypocrites.
Al Franken just said that all the Cold this winter was caused by Global Warming. And we should expect more cold winters. Then says there are propane shortages. That’s all I could take. Morons should not get re-elected. I hope these ignorant Dems push this as their agenda in the fall
I watched for a while. Its the same thing all over again, 97%, Hurricane Sandy, lets do something before its too late, think of the children. Yawn.
There are a couple of important things to note here.
The first is that there are no senators in this climate action task force who are vulnerable this election.
The second is that all revenue bills must be introduced in the House. They can promote cap and tax all they want, but they can’t introduce a bill in the Senate that would fund it.
That leaves caterwauling, which is exactly what they are doing. You would think they would wait until the summer though. Most Americans are really tired of this winter’s weather.
This has me REALLY worried, all that Hot Air they’re spewing out is going to put a big spike in Global Warming!!! ;-))
Call it for what it clearly is. McCarthyism : A general term for the phenomenon of mass pressure, harassment, or blacklisting used to instill conformity with prevailing political beliefs
Harry Reid won’t let them do anything else, so this is an effort to get press time before the election. At least this will demonstrate the lowest IQ members that show up to demostrate their knowledge on the subject. lol pg
Could somebody with some real sense crash the party?
Posturing and primping for the cause. It would be instructive to learn who told these people they had to do this. No one is dumb enough to do this voluntarily are they? ………….hello!?
I tuned in for a brief moment and listened to the senator from Oregon. He went on and on about “forest fires burning hotter and hotter”. I threw up a bit in my mouth and turned it off.
The transcripts will be a gift that keeps on giving.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record
Check them tomorrow.
Davetherealist
Senator(giggle) Franken has just committed himself to a prediction which is falsifiable. If the severe winter this year experienced does NOT repeat itself it means his statement is wrong, hence his hypothesis is also wrong. The main alternative is that there is some other mechanism that overwhelms the supposed forcing effect of carbon dioxide. If it is so overwhelmed, how can it be a primary forcing agent?
I have come up with some other alternatives, but Occam’s razor has only two edges, if that.
Hey senators. Explain the Carboniferous!
Oh Dear !
I do hope that the participants use condoms and wash their hands with soap and water and gargle twice with Listerine after every XXXX and use the toilet for heavens sake instead of the corner of the room.
Adult supervision needed !
The World’s Greatest Deliberative Body…a complete embarrassment to anyone with half a brain.
What a yawner.
Wow, that Senator from Oregon just let out a deeply guarded secret: The laws of chemistry are changing and forest fires are now burning hotter than ever before.
And all because of CO2!
If they think it’s so warm let them spend the night out on the Mall in their underwear…
Senator from Mass just said fifty footballs fields of land a year are washed to sea in his state a year…. that the oceans are getting “MORE ACIDIC” … waite I thought the oceans are not in an acid state yet…. and after 45 secconds I had to turn it off… hurts to watch this lying liars fest
I refuse to watch one second of this charade. The current senate leadership doesn’t have enough mental horsepower to light a (now-banned) 100 watt light bulb.
Here’s a subtle but pointed billboard-campaign idea. It should be run after a lengthy or substantial period of global cooling that alarmists and the media have spun as being consistent with—if not actually proof of—global warming:
Image: Big Brother (the well-known guy with the scowl, dark hair, and crew cut)
Caption: Cool Is the New Warm!
Sub-caption: And Don’t You Forget It!
Schatz happens to be my Senator. He is one of the dumbest people you have ever heard. He speaks in liberal cliche talk. He is a scientific moron. This guy could lose at Tic Tac Toe to Obama.
2 points:
1. They doing this to extract/capture campaign donations, first and foremost. We already know the giga-idiot Steyer is putting up $100 Million to pols who sign on to CAGW (“A fool and his money…,” as the saying goes).
2. You know the global warming paradigm is in deep scientific trouble when the vested-interest political cognoscenti go to great lengths to defend it by making ad hominem attacks on science-based rebuttals. Similar to 1633 when Galileo was imprisoned for his advocacy of heliocentrism. Prior to that in 1616 the Inquisition declared heliocentrism to be formally heretical.
Time was the village idiot would get too annoying, we would convince them to run for senator and get rid of them that way.
Damn shame everybody else had the same idea.
Term limits will not be enough.
Here’s HL Mencken, in “On Being an American”:
Someone should turn off the heat and power. Unfortunately Capitol Hill security back in 1988 was pre-911. Try that stunt today and I bet those 2 clowns would know what 50000 volts from a tazer and zip ties feel like. Hey, maybe they can try and recreate that stunt now but tell security “THIS IS NO DRILL!!” Much hilarity ensues.
davetherealist says:
March 10, 2014 at 6:26 pm
“Al Franken just said that all the Cold this winter was caused by Global Warming. And we should expect more cold winters. Then says there are propane shortages. That’s all I could take. Morons should not get re-elected. I hope these ignorant Dems push this as their agenda in the fall”
Yes, and based on best projections, as these cold winters “increasify” in tandem with increased warming, leading to less propane and longer lines and more mothers with small children waiting in line for said scarce fuel, we shall very most likely see in short order with a certainty approaching 90% , a sharp increase in alcohol consumption and thereby scarcity, though more work is certainly needed to reduce the uncertainty as to the particular types being consumed at that time.
Be safe, stock up now.
Where are hackers when you need ’em … they could replace the Senate CSPAN feed w/ something more intelligent … such as a Three Stooges marathon.
It’s a Free world!
I tuned in late. Someone mentioned Non-Hurricane Sandy? I live on Long Island in NY, I was here for Sandy. Yes, it was a large storm, but it hit at high tide during a full moon! Was the timing also due to climate change? When Sandy was downgraded along the way I swear the tv news people looked disappointed.
Not a free for all.
Why would I want to see Patty ‘Cakes’ Murray in her PJs? I can’t take that chance….. no. I may have nightmares, just from vocalizing that image…. Oh, the humanity!.
If politicians are vested with the responsibility of saving our planet from its ultimate fate of death by pollution, then we are doomed.
Doomed I say !!!
This cartoon shows how it all ends . . . . .
http://cartoonmick.wordpress.com/editorial-political/#jp-carousel-205
Cheers
Mick
They can see the temperature starting to drop.
The DESPERATION is palpable ! 🙂
Watching 5 minutes of that was enough. Schatz from Hawaii was ranting on. He uses comparisons to the opposition of removing lead from gasoline and some similar examples as correlation to what is happening now with the sceptical side against cagw. It shows how little they know about the supposed science facts they bring up. He can not see that the only argument with this issue is whether the concept is right or wrong. To point to examples where a contrarian view against a scientific consensus was proven wrong does not mean that the next science related debate will share the same result.
DRUDGE REPORT main headline: DEMS DECLARE WAR ON WEATHER!
Screenshot: http://i59.tinypic.com/qyix7c.jpg
Joel O’Bryan says: [March 10, 2014 at 8:25 pm]
“They doing this to extract/capture campaign donations, first and foremost.”
True, so true. But the gall of it all is that they are really plucking recycled taxpayer dollars – the ones that were fed as “subsidies” and “investments” and price-guarantees to the green gravy trains of solar, wind, and ethanol firms who not only get gummint funds but also get guaranteed markets by gummint fiat!
That’s about as sweet as teacher unions negotiating labor contracts with school boards packed with teacher-union hacks elected with teacher-union dues.
That’s what the Corrupt Left calls “sustainability”
Took a look – happened to catch the NM representative.
Curious how New Mexico’s Heinrich dwells at such length on snowfall and snowpack, comparing 2010 to this winter. Snow water Equivalent is up in 2014 between 20 – 30 % above the mean in nearly every NM drainage.
New Mexico SNOTEL Snowpack Update Report:
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/reports/UpdateReport.html;jsessionid=TrqklQQtY5RxavMluPBNU7It?report=New+Mexico&format=SNOTEL+Snowpack+Update+Report
This is a stunt, just like every single aspect of the entire anthropogenic global warming fraud industry. The Dems are so scared of the midterms, considering, Fast and Furious, Bengazi, NSA, Snowden, IRS-Gate, Obamacare, Solyndra, Crimea, Syria, Gun-Control, etc etc as if all that wasn’t enough, they have to gin-up the base so that a few straggler dems might be able to hang on and squeak out a Senate Majority. This is very desperate show-boating dems to dem-supporters.
They are shouting to the already-enlisted.
Me? All I care about is doing science and this clown show is all politics. No science here.
IgnoreFunction>On.
It is good that WUWT is covering this rationally because otherwise it might be taken seriously, again.
Correction to my comment above at 10:27: SNOTEL snowpack report references the median snow-water equivalent, not the mean.
The American Senate has a large population of dunderheads who still believe that temperatures are accelerating upward. They must never had looked at the scientific evidence and graphs. They are probably as ignorant about what is going on in Crimea, Ukraine and Moscow. They refuse to investigate these issues for themselves. They probably don’t know where Crimea. Ukraine and even Moscow are. They certainly don’t know where the Climatic evidence is.
Of course, something that most people do not know is that every elected member of Congress has the right to edit the report of their remarks before it goes into the official Congressional Register. All of the most outlandish comments will disappear from the official records before they are committed to hard copy.
Ukraine going down, Baltics likely next, if Stalin the Second isn’t stopped –
Nero fiddles while Rome burns.
Here’s the cure. A billboard campaign showing:
Image—A hockey stick with its shaft slanting upwards & to the right and its blade flat, overlaid on a running mean chart of global temperatures.
Caption—Who’s in Denial Now?
Live Arrested Puberty. Only if you have ever been a parent do you get to see this…….
Does the white smoke mean they elected a new pope? (It IS smoke isn’t it? Same as you see coming out of power station cooling towers? Maybe someone should Photoshop it black so there can be no mistake!)
Good old Inhofe: http://www.c-span.org/video/?318185-6/senators-inhofe-boxer-climate-change
The most important step to make is CLEAN HOUSE.
I thought UK had some potty & corrupt politicians, but in the stupid races Washington wins by a mile. Yet they still get voted in….what does that say about the population ???
“Al Franken just said that all the Cold this winter was caused by Global Warming. And we should expect more cold winters. Then says there are propane shortages. That’s all I could take.”
Cut the guy some slack, he is a comedian after all…
@Mike Ozanne – As for Franken being a comedian, I never found his comedy funny. But I find his tenure as a senator to be hilarious.
@R. de Haan, I like Inhofe’s talk, but he could do with more direct rebuttals of alarmists’ talking points, taking them apart one by one. Anyway, decent job.
Climate Council says the summer was ‘another example of climate change tearing through the record books’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/10/climate-action-call-as-another-angry-summer-breaks-156-heat-records
no wonder the political class think its fact when u see articles like this that state ‘as fact; “Rising temperatures driven by the release of heat-trapping carbon dioxide place Australians at increased risk from extreme weather events, including heatwaves, drought and bushfires, the report stated.”
the co2ers say only climate scientists are fit to talk on this subject but its politicians who have to make the decision. So the appeal is to ‘trust’ the scientists because everyone else is too thick to understand it? Sounds like ego inflation?
maybe they should read why ‘wierdo words’ are no longer enough
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100262659/public-apathy-on-climate-change-is-a-cause-for-celebration-not-concern/
Chad Wozniak –
Ukraine went down already – our “friends in Kiev” apparentlly attended a World Bank Carbon Finance Partnership for Market Readiness meeting in Mexico City, held between 3-5 March:
10 Mar: Bloomberg/Businessweek: Matthew Carr: Switzerland Seeks Precision as Nations Shape Carbon Markets (1)
South Africa, Brazil and Ukraine are among countries considering carbon markets that met last week in Mexico City under the auspices of the Partnership for Market Readiness, a World Bank program to develop nations’ emissions trading…
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-03-10/switzerland-seeks-precision-as-30-nations-shape-carbon-markets
pdf: World Bank Carbon Finance Org: The Partnership for Market Readiness
Shaping the Next Generation of Carbon Markets
The PMR is made up of Contributing Participants who provide financial support to the PMR Trust Fund, and Implementing Country Partici-pants (listed be-low in proposed activities tables) who receive PMR funding…
PMR Implementing Country Participants—Proposed Activities in Other Regions
(SEE UKRAINE)
https://wbcarbonfinance.org/docs/PMR_Brochure_v2.pdf
pdf: PMR Update: Partnership for Market Readiness (PMR): Update Since PA7
Eighth Meeting of the Partnership Assembly Mexico City, Mexico
March 3-5, 2014
http://www.thepmr.org/system/files/documents/PA8_Update.pdf
They would gain much more credibility if they used the time to debate the GW subject with qualified sceptics. It really is staggering that no one promoting the AGW agenda has the courage to suggest an open debate in order to prove that in which they are so confident, and which they do so much shouting about.
I just heard from the Connecticut senator that the lobsters of his state ..”are not as dumb as you think..” Having watched and listened for a little while I reckon in that case he should maybe take a lesson from them ’cause he sure was sounding dumber than the lobsters with his comments about maple syrup and strawberry farmers. Oh, it has been a long night hasn’t it, perhaps delirium from sleep depravation has set in.
We have precisely the government that we deserve, we elected it, we paid for it and we tolerate it.
Everything these Senators say is being permanently recorded in the Congressional Record. What they are doing is putting on an un-editable record every alarmist
factconjecture about the existence of Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming. Skeptics are being presented with the warmist’s petard with which to hoist them.Not so! They all either end or begin their spiels with the worlds “I reserve the right to amend or extend my remarks as needed.” What that means is they will edit out the things they know are completely loony from the record so they can deny they ever said it. They know that the soundbites will have the desired impact on the low info voter, but they will point to the amended congressional record as proof they didn’t really say something so stupid when confronted by people who know their BS is BS.
they actually say words – don’t know where that “L” slid in there from. Wouldn’t want to live in “worlds” emitting from political oral orifices.
youtube: The IPCC Exposed
By the Corbett report
Many so called IPCC ‘top’ scientists are “still 10 years away from a PHD”.
Who really are the hysteric alarmists?
With now all the exposed fraudulent papers, illegally withholding data, admitted manipulated studies and admissions of scientists lying, perhaps the shrieking ‘Warmists’ are the real ‘Deniers’.
youtube:
The Great Global Warming Swindle Full Movie ” The club of Rome…
Now Rothschilds bought a weather broadcasting network (gee, I wonder why??? DUH), Google it:
EL Rothschild buys stake in Weather Central – FT.com
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/67ee5828-2d8d-11e0-8f53-00144feab49a.html –
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youtube: The Rothschilds Exposed 3/3
(Just see the last 3 minutes) you will understand
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Related:
The ideological basis for ‘environmentalism’
youtube:
Exposed -WWF & Prince Philip – The World Wildlife Fund
Published on Nov 23, 2013
The RINOs and the democrats want to hand our taxes and law making over to the UN.
The UN is ramming ‘Agenda 21’ and ‘Common Core’ down the throats of the world, the UN’s World Bank is complicit in forcing poor farmers off their own land in Africa and South America for corporate and university endowment ‘tree farm/carbon credit’ investments, is deeming sovereign resources off limits, trying to eliminate (citizen’s only) the right to bear arms, our country’s sovereignty and our individual freedoms and now trying to force a ‘world’ climate change tax and ‘world’ wealth tax on us AND under the guise of saving us from asteroids, the UN is NOW trying co-opt our US space program, it’s technology, resources and MORE OF OUR TAXES.
We must start with voting the RINOs and democrats OUT 2014
So now the UN noticed Bloomberg’s dictatorial impositions on New Yorkers and has appointed him to be bulldozer for the UN’s climate change world tax.
Through imposed ignorance we are handing over our resources, funding (taxes), technology and sovereign decision making to basically an unelected, new monarchy (UN)made up of mostly 3rd world dictatorships who are just tools of a few dynastic families.
… time to reduce federal to it’s constitutional mandate, defund regulatory down to our country’s essential needs, defund the IRS and the Department of Education, re-coup our state’s rights, take back federal land -our state’s property from the feds), time to take back control of our own waterways and national parks and de-fund the UN, kick them out of our country, claw back pensions and restitution of it’s assets.
Vote out the RINOs and all left progressives.
Managed to watch perhaps about 10 minutes of the stupid-fest, catching Tom Udall from NM give “examples” of how his state has been affected (mostly drought-related), and showing his state’s involvement with “green” energy – wind and solar plants, and an algae biofuels plant as part of the “solution”. He also bemoaned the absence of the Republicans, opining that perhaps they just don’t care about this issue. I managed a minute or two of Elizabeth Warren from Mass.’s testimony, I think the gist of it being about how we are facing a planetary crisis, and at a critical crossroads, and how “powerful interests” are blocking the pathway to cleaner air, blah-blah-blah. There is only so much of that nonsense one can take.
Maybe the Republicans should pull an all-nighter of their own to counter this. Wonder if any Dumbocrats would show up.
hunter and Mike Jonas, please do all of us a favor and list the names of the people McCarthy falsly accused. If you can’t do that, then stop repeating what you have “learned” about history.
Eric
Were there any Senators from North Dakota or West Virginia there? Democrats running for re-election in those states need to stay away.
I saw the Drudge title too. Then I saw Richard Branson going off on it too there. I wish his business partner, Bert Rutan, would take him aside and explain a few things to him. Sigh.
Sigh again… Burt Rutan… too much Sesame Street over the weekend (and I was a Vari-EZe fan since the 70’s – I should have caught that).
Instead of calling themselves “Climate Action Task Force”, maybe they should be:
Force for Understanding Climate Knowledge, Education and Demonization
Well, now it’s morning in the charming city in which the POTUS began his political career. The Senate all-nighter must be winding down. May I recommend that the Senators end their day in the manner in which I have just begun mine. You see, my sister, my older sister has just picked me up for breakfast. She had dropped someone off at Midway airport and was stuck in rush hour traffic on the way to get her dear younger brother – me. Due to the delay she had to go to the bathroom – big time. She was debating whether to pick me up or go home first because she had to go so bad. I told her I’d be ready immediately – big mistake.
So, during the entire time, trapped within her car, I received a dissertation on the urgency of a bowel movement from a 70 year old woman; complete with obligatory potty jokes.
I don’t know, but for some reason the above would seem a fitting tribute to the Senate’s all-nighter.
This is an appeal for Obamaclimatecare from the same people who crafted the original that so many people love /sarc
What I’m seeing is a predictable carnival from the radicalized climate warmists using techniques shown to work by Joe McCarthy: marginalize, associate multiple weak links to present the impression of a greater threat, congressional side show, involvement of a sympathetic press, symbolic activities.
Multiple weak link association example: Dr. Spencer, identified as a climate denier and an astro-turfing Christian fundamentalist right-wing conservative crank (http://www.skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Roy_Spencer.htm, http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roy_Spencer). OMG, the evil just boils over, doesn’t it?
What these morons don’t understand is that McCarthy is probably the single most responsible party for the resurgence of the socialist movement that resulted in them holding office today. This shows they not only don’t learn from the observed record on climate, they learn nothing from history – some of which they’ve re-written!
This is also evidence we’ve entered the post-normal science based post-constitutional era in US politics. This public display of elected officials praising the virtues of suspending the 1st amendment rights of that half of the voting public which chooses another path is chilling.
“Then they came for the climate scientists and there was nobody left to help me”
Trust #Up4Climate But VERIFY
95% of models 35 year projections are TOO HOT
i.e. they have the WRONG Climate sensitivity. It is 2X too high http://bit.ly/N3Hpk
Trust the NASA RightClimateStuff which bounded GHG climate change warming to 1.2 deg C.
Do NOT trust Up4Climate with all the DC hot air http://bit.ly/1ima65K
Statist scum. It is nothing more than a state sponsored media event. Make the superstitious liberals worry about the angry weather Gods and not about Putin’s boot print on Obama’s @ss
Never mind the number of twitter comments as cited by Senator Boxer, how much money did they raise during the all nighter? Also, certain Dems up for re-election did not participate. Was that because they don’t believe in it fundamentally or because they are in hiding? Silence is not an option for either question.
What occurred in the Senate overnight was a form of prayer meetin’, where the believers gather to testify and proclaim their fealty to the Gospel of Climate and Sustainability, in the name of the sainted Goracle and his acolytes Obama and Kerry. The occasion, of course, was to acknowledge and prove worthy of the sacred offering of $100 million from the whacko billionaire Tom Steyer to any Democrats shouting hosannahs for The True Climate.
“Great day in the morning! The Climate is bad and getting worse! We have sinned against The Planet, but we will force our fellow Americans to atone with taxes; we will pass laws that force our dear citizens to turn off their lights and drive less, as a fitting sacrifice for the Climate. And we gratefully accept Mr. Steyer’s offering in the name of Holy Sustainability and our Sacred Campaign to keep the Senate in the hands of devoted Democrats, and to regain the House of Representatives from the evil hordes of Heretics and Deni*rs who would divert us from our true and noble Path of fighting Climate Change. Amen!”
Fortunately, the number of Americans who bothered to watch these shenanigans was almost certainly minuscule. But you can bet Mr. Steyer did, and was pleased.
/Mr Lynn
Climate Action Task Farce?
Meh.
Not even worth hitting the Bull**it button…
These clowns know not what they do.
There’s a grass-roots effort going in many Democrat-dominated areas.
Republicans are converting to Democrat and becoming “DINOs” = Democrats In Name Only.
The premise being that if you can’t beat them, join them, and force change from within.
This way we can vote the clowns out in the Democratic primaries, where seats are won by narrow margins, and still vote Republican in the main election.
We’re a mounting force and choosing carefully! Join us!
In Maryland see: freestatedinos.com
Every one of these bums should be disqualified from holding elected office. Sheeple,wake up!….Sheeple?…..Sheeple?…… In the end, we get the government that we deserve.
R. de Haan says: March 11, 2014 at 12:43 am
Indeed. Perhaps it would be of some value to imbed and juxtapose both Inhofe’s and Whitehouse’s comments? I, for one, would appreciate a WUWT take on Whitehouse’s rebuttal.
Pat says:
March 10, 2014 at 8:19 pm
Schatz happens
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‘Nuff said
Joel O’Bryan says:
March 10, 2014 at 8:25 pm
2 points:
… Similar to 1633 when Galileo was imprisoned for his advocacy of heliocentrism. Prior to that in 1616 the Inquisition declared heliocentrism to be formally heretical.
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Kind of off topic, but No. Galileo was not imprisoned. His house arrest was not for advocacy of heliocentrism. It was for the combination of his already disproven dogma that the earth orbited the sun in a perfect circle, and his arguments about how this changed the authority of the bible. Copernicus, Kepler etc. had already shown that the perfect circle notion was undefinable.
Hey, they can’t do any damage as long as they’re talking to each other about imagined problems.
dp says:
March 11, 2014 at 6:22 am
“What these morons don’t understand is that McCarthy is probably the single most responsible party for the resurgence of the socialist movement that resulted in them holding office today. ”
BS. Adorno, Horkheimer, Markuse are. Markuse single-handedly mobilized the youth of the USA for cultural marxism. Adorno and Horkheimer did it in Germany.
Kind of like Romero only they didn’t make movies about zombies, they turned an entire generation into zombies in real life.
When Chris Cillizza of The Washington Post feels compelled to identify this overt campaign cash grab for what it is, it evidences the growing loss of media investment in the “climate change” fraud and the democrat party that perpetrated it (emphasis mine)…
DirkH – the McCarthy era created “commie fatigue” owing to his outlandish showboating and hyperbole. It is a fatigue that exists to this day. But the point being made is these clowns in DC are repeating the worst of Joe’s activities and climate alarmism fatigue is already a reality. The clowns are not helping their cause.
He wasn’t funny when he had that gig, either.
Question: How much does it cost a big donor to sponsor a Senate pajama party? First I learned about the use of the WH as a donor motel during the Clinton regime, then there was the Wall Street sponsored political conventions complete with styrofoam Romanesque columns, and now sponsored pajama parties. I will say I learn a lot more about how things really work behind the curtain from Dems than anyone else.
I didn’t watch the warming fest. But I did see an article about it.
Basically, while they all called for “action” not one one of them actually proposed an action to take.
No legislation was proposed or introduced.
“Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” it was not.
Thanks for telling me about it. As a person who is a believer, I really enjoyed it.
Eric Sincere 11 Mar 5:24am says “hunter and Mike Jonas, please do all of us a favor and list the names of the people McCarthy falsly accused. If you can’t do that, then stop […]“.
I said nothing about false accusations. For your benefit, I repeat:-
McCarthyism : A general term for the phenomenon of mass pressure, harassment, or blacklisting used to instill conformity with prevailing political beliefs
Mike J – I would only add that it is also a tactic with a clear but unspoken message: You could be next. That ties in with instilling conformity.
The transcripts of the March 11, 2014
Senate Climate Change Filibuster-of-a-bill-we-dare-not-introduce
This is an index to the 38 pages of transcript that identify the Senator and first line.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?r113:S10MR4-0016:
The Transcripts start with page S1377. and continue to S1415.
There is a one-piece printer friendly text file of all the pages, which would be a convenient file to search for key terms.
It is 337K bytes
It starts of with a head shaker in the first 10 seconds…
Page: S1377 Mr. REID. Page: S1378
Page: S1379 Mr. DURBIN, Mr. SCHUMER. Mrs. MURRAY. Mrs. BOXER, Mr. WHITEHOUSE. Mr. SCHATZ.
Page: S1380 Mr. NELSON. Ms. CANTWELL. Mr. CARDIN. Mr. UDALL of Colorado, Mr. UDALL of New Mexico. Ms. CANTWELL.
Page: S1381 Mrs. SHAHEEN. Mr. MERKLEY. Mr. BLUMENTHAL. Mr. HEINRICH. Mr. KING. Ms. WARREN. Mr. MARKEY.
Page: S1382 Mrs. GILLIBRAND. Mr. WHITEHOUSE. Mr. INHOFE.
Page: S1383
Page: S1384
Page: S1385 Mr. INHOFE.
Page: S1386 Mrs. BOXER. Mr. INHOFE. Mrs. BOXER. Mr. SCHATZ.
Page: S1387 Mrs. BOXER. Mr. SCHATZ.
Page: S1388 Mr. WYDEN.
Page: S1390 Mr. WHITEHOUSE. Mrs. FEINSTEIN.
Page: S1391
Page: S1392 Mr. WHITEHOUSE.
Page: S1393 Ms. BOXER.
Page: S1394 Mr. FRANKEN.
Page: S1395
Page: S1396 Mr. SANDERS.
Page: S1397
Page: S1398
Page: S1399 Mr. KAINE.
Page: S1400
Page: S1401 Ms. KLOBUCHAR.
Page: S1402
Page: S1403
Page: S1404 Mr. MARKEY.
Page: S1405
Page: S1406 Mr. KING.
Page: S1407
Page: S1408
Page: S1409 Mr. MERKLEY.
Page: S1410
Page: S1411 Mr. COONS.
Page: S1412 Mr. MENENDEZ.
Page: S1414 Mr. LEAHY
Page: S1415
Just watched Hannity and the debate between Patrick Moore and Fox’s resident leftie Democrat, Bob Beckel, apropos that monumental waste of time by the Senate. Dr. Moore cites no warming 17 years, lack of any proof of any effect of CO2 on climate. Beckel counters with “You’re a sellout who left Greenpeace to found a for-profit company selling to polluters.” (Quote as best as I could remember, but captures it, and as I understand it, Dr. Moore is assisting companies with pollution controls – and he quite aptly pointed out that all companies pollute.)
How typical – facts vs. personal attacks. The sad part is that people like Beckel actually seem to think that ad hominem is scientific evidence – they plainly, really believe that. And of course all profit is evil – never mind that it supports the business owner and enables him/her to create jobs. Economic illiteracy, on top of scientific illiteracy.
No wonder it’s useless to debate alarmists – even if they agree to debate, that’s all you will get from them, and they will be entirely convinced they’ve refuted your arguments.
Whatever happened to critical thinking? Maybe these mollusks would learn something from a freshman philosophy course. Oops – no they won’t, as soon as they detect criticism of their own “reasoning” they will stop listening.
Sorry, the links above were to temporary query files and disappear after 30 minutes.
This is a link to the Government Printing Office (GPO) of the PDF for the printed Congressional Record and should be more permanent. (I hope)
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2014-03-10/pdf/CREC-2014-03-10-pt1-PgS1377-6.pdf#page=1
It is a searchable PDF, about 445KB.
I think the next step is to boil it down, discarding platitudes, to declarative statements.
If things disappear again, go to
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record
Check Senate, Extended Remarks, and Daily Digest
From: 3/10/2014 To: 3/11/2014
== Search
click on the link for: 54 . CLIMATE CHANGE — (Senate – March 10, 2014)
Harry Reid: Climate change deniers becoming less credible due to the bad weather: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/harry-reid-climate-change-deniersbecoming-less-credible-bad-weather_784618.html
Save some tar and feathers for this guy. He really deserves it.
We never had any bad weather in the past: http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/march-11-1888-snowstorm-in-new-york/
But the truth is that Harry Reid simply rented the Senate to billionaire environmentalist’s causes. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/11/RNC-Harry-Reid-rented-US-senate-to-billionaire-environmentalist-s-cause
Another word for this is CORRUPTION.
Time to Clean House.
Democrats use Senate building for partisan fundraising, clearly a violation of law. Holder should appoint Democrat fundraiser to investigate. /sarc
@R. de Haan at 9:07 pm
There was a bit by SESSIONS on the page before the climate sleep-in.
It is about 17K, I have cut some of it down, but there is a lot of good stuff in it. The (PDF 200K) is worth keeping. The entire PDF deserves to be a WUWT posting, for it is a good summary of the science, the questions, and the politics.
CLIMATE CHANGE — (Senate – March 10, 2014 [Page: S1371]
Mr. SESSIONS. It has been reported that a number of our colleagues in the Democratic majority in the Senate intend to speak on the Senate floor tonight on the question of climate change. Sometimes they will say “global warming,” and I guess that is ceasing to be the No. 1 phrase now.
An article in the USA Today said this “effort is cause for some confusion because these Senators are calling for action in a chamber they control but without any specific legislation to offer up for a vote.”
No legislation–this is, indeed, confusing. Why wouldn’t the majority leader bring a bill to the floor of the Senate to expressly approve President Obama’s climate agenda or to approve his rigorous regulations that constrict Americans with it.
Why not? The answer is it wouldn’t pass. The American people do not support this and neither does Congress. A lot of his Democratic colleagues, I would suggest, don’t want to vote on it. It raises a lot of questions about what the deal is and what we need to do as a Nation to handle pollution, carbon dioxide, climate change, and how we need to deal with it and how we should think about it. There was an article in today’s Washington Times by Mr. William C. Triplett II that points out the following:
[Page: S1372]
In mid-February, billionaire and major Democratic National Committee donor Tom Steyer held a dinner at his palatial San Francisco home for 70 of his closest friends. Former Vice President Al Gore was the headliner, and in attendance were Democratic Senators Harry Reid…..
The Democratic Senate leader and four other Senators were present.
He has pledged to give $50 million to a campaign to defeat, mainly, Republicans because they don’t agree with his global warming agenda.
Mr. Triplett says:
What has everyone’s attention is this number: $100 million. Mr. Steyer has announced that he intends to put $50 million of his own money into Democrats’ races in 2014 and has challenged his fellow deep-pocket liberals to match it with an additional $50 million of their own. His issue is “climate change.”
We have to talk after this conference. We will have a lot of talk tonight about this question.
With regard to Congress, I will try to be as brief as I can. In 1970 Congress passed the Clean Air Act before global warming had ever been discussed. In fact, there was some discussion of global cooling in 1970. It passed.
Carbon dioxide is an odorless, tasteless gas that plants take in and breathe out oxygen; and people breathe in oxygen again and let out carbon dioxide. It is a naturally forming, odorless, tasteless, nonharmful gas.
It was contended that this gas was causing global warming. It made some sense to me. CO2 apparently is some sort of a global warming gas and creates a blanket effect and could increase the temperatures. Who knows–that was the argument and it seemed to make some sense.
However, John Dingell, a Democrat from Michigan who was there at the time of the Clean Air Act and was one of its authors said: “I think the Supreme Court came up with a veryÐ much erroneous decision on whetherÐ the Clean Air Act covers greenhouse Ðgases ….. ”
So what happened was the Supreme Court, in a 5 to 4 vote–after it was contended through the International Panel on Climate Change that CO2 could be causing climate change–ruled this was a pollutant, as are particulates like NOX and SOX–sulfur dioxide, and, therefore, under the 1970 law, which never mentioned CO2, the Environmental Protection Agency was required to regulate it. That gave these unelected bureaucrats–people in that agency–the power to regulate an individual American’s barbecue grill, their lawnmower, and every major business in America the amount of CO2 they emit from their businesses and their plants. It is a remarkable development from a pure constitutional question. If the issue were brought up today it would not pass. There are not sufficient votes, apparently, to overturn it, but there would never have been enough votes to pass legislation to do what the Supreme Court said.
….
In January of 2014, in the Scientific American magazine, which has been a staunch supporter of global warming legislation, it contained an article entitled “The Long Slow Rise of Solar and Wind,” which explains some of the reasons for the “slow pace of energy transition.” The article explains, “each widespread transition from one dominant fuel to another has taken 50 to 60 years,” and “there is no technical or financial reason to believe [renewables] will rise any quicker.”
….
From 1990 to 2012 the world’s energy from fossil fuels barely changed, down from 88 percent to 87 percent.
….
Then we have the problem of exaggeration to the point where exaggeration is really not a fair word to describe it, in my opinion. It becomes more than an exaggeration but a deliberate misrepresentation.
On November 14, 2012, President Obama said, “The temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago.” Increasing faster than even 10 years ago it was predicted to increase. So I wrote former EPA director, Administrator Lisa Jackson, in December of 2012 asking her to provide the best available data that EPA had and that they would rely upon to support the President’s statement. ….
On April 30 she responded in writing to me–….. She simply stated:
EPA has not produced its own analysis, but we expect a definitive comparison in the forthcoming [IPCC] Fifth Assessment Report.
Then on May 29, 2013, President Obama did it again. He claimed:
[We] also know that the climate is warming faster than anybody anticipated 5 or 10 years ago …..
This is the President. I challenged the statement at the committee before his top environmental official, Administrator McCarthy. She could not produce any information to back this up. And he repeats it again. This is very disturbing to me.
So on June 24, 2013, I was joined by all EPW Republicans in a letter to Ms. McCarthy to ask that she provide data supporting the President’s claims, but she didn’t provide any data.
Why? There is no such data. The climate is not warming faster than was predicted by the experts several or even 5 to 10 years ago. Nothing close. Let us look at this chart. On this chart the red line is a projection compiled of 102 predictive computer models. …. This is what the average of those models predicted, going up substantially from almost a degree by 2020. That is 1 degree, in 20-some-odd years. That is noticeable. That is an impact, if it were to happen.
However, these two lines are actual temperature measurements starting in 1980 and through the current date, right here. And the temperatures haven’t gone up. It has been an extraordinary thing. The computer models have been wrong virtually every year and experts are admitting, even the IPCC admits this is a problem for them. They do not know why the temperature hasn’t been increasing. CO2 has been going up. Why isn’t the temperature increasing, such as they predicted?
Yet the President continues to say the temperature around the globe is increasing faster than was predicted even 10 years ago. It is hardly increasing at all in the last 17 years.
So we have to have some truth, and I hope, if our colleagues talk about this issue, they will ask EPA Administrator McCarthy what information she has that would justify such a statement. And I hope they do not make that same statement. Actually, I said to her it would be nice if she would tell the President to quit saying it. I will say he hasn’t said it since last year. ….
[Page: S1373]…
There is little or no observational evidence that severe weather of any type has worsened over the last 30, 50 or 100 years. ….
In brief, tornado, hurricane and cyclone activity are at historically low levels, wildfires are in a long-term decline except in government forests, there is no trend in sea-levels related to increases in greenhouse gas concentrations, the record of the Arctic ice cover is ambiguous, there is no drought trend since 1895, and the same is true for flooding over the past 85 to 127 years.
…..
As we discuss the hundreds of billions of dollars in costs which are being imposed on our economy as a result of some of the ideas to deal with climate change and extreme weather, I asked my colleagues: Would you please check the data; is it truly so that we are having more hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, or floods? Dr. Pielke says no. Let’s see somebody dispute those numbers. They haven’t been disputed.
Is it true the temperature is increasing faster than was predicted even 5 years or 10 years ago? The IPCC data doesn’t show it and neither does any other objective data. ….
Stephen Rasey says:
March 11, 2014 at 10:19 pm
The entire AGW/Climate Change/Climate Disruption BS is a scam and there is nothing to gain anymore.Thanks to the UN, Agenda 21 providing the hard core of Globalist’s with the moral excuse to take control over the world’s nations, economies, resources assets and … people to get into a position where the World Population can be reduced to the “sustainable” level of 500 million inhabitants by downing the free West and triggering the biggest crises of our times.
This has turned the leadership of the US into a bunch of murderers.
Death and destruction is all we can expect from them.
We are at war with our own governments and only a few people have noticed so far.
A President talking about death lists and assassinations to be something to believe in should have set fire to the entire electorate, left and right but….. nothing happened.
Also read: http://green-agenda.com
Also watch:Paul vs Paul In Ron Paul’s concept the fight against AGW wouldn’t be subject because Government would not be part of the picture.
“Right after I turned 17 and got my New Jersey driver’s license, one of the earliest places I drove was a trip — the only trip I’ve ever taken — was to Hawaii,” the Garden State senator Cory Booker said.
That’s it, just mock the pack of liars and their fantasy stories.
They are not worth listening to as they have nothing to say.
Only extreme narcisism the feel good effect of saving the planet and filling their coffers has brought them to power.
They’re all gone when the money flow stops coming.
Whitehouse Warns of Ice Ponds No Longer Freezing Over
Unless the issue is addressed, children will no longer be able to learn hockey on frozen ponds. Additionally, many of the former sites of the Winter Olympics may no longer be “climatically suitable” to host future games.
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That must have been before Global Warming melted all the ice at the poles and the rising seas flooded the roads to Hawaii.
As a first pass, this is a summary of the use of “denier” in the March 10-11 Senate Climate-buster.
CR_Page CR_Speaker CR_Text
S1378 REID climate change deniers still exist.
S1378 REID the deniers.
S1379 SCHUMER deniers like to claim there are competing
S1379 SCHUMER Climate change deniers need to wake
S1379 BOXER The deniers have given in to the
S1381 BLUMENTHAL deniers, who are as much a part of the
S1381 KING I would not call myself a denier, but
S1387 BOXER but who I think is a dangerous denier,
S1387 BOXER a dangerous denier in the face of 97 percent
S1387 SCHATZ our climate deniers tend to use. I will
S1387 SCHATZ This was a prominent climate denier
S1387 SCHATZ in Antarctica. More and more deniers
S1387 SCHATZ Some deniers also like to use responsible
S1387 SCHATZ So deniers cannot in good conscience
S1387 SCHATZ deal. Maybe it is even good. As deniers
S1388 SCHATZ This category of deniers accepts the reality,
S1390 FEINSTEIN change deniers, reported to Congress in
S1392 WHITEHOUSE which the climate denier community
S1392 WHITEHOUSE That is how much fuss the deniers
S1393 BOXER deniers are standing with 3 percent of
S1393 BOXER we have proven the point that deniers
S1395 FRANKEN deniers have taken this as a sign that
S1400 KAINE science deniers and leadership deniers,
S1400 KAINE To science deniers, I am happy to say
S1401 KAINE It is the skeptics and the deniers who
S1401 KAINE variety, climate denier or leadership
S1401 KAINE denier, don’t underestimate American
Mods: please delete 9:40 am, I’ll try again.
This is a first pass summary of the use of “denier” in the March 10-11 Senate Climate Change Transcript.
CR_Page , CR_Speaker _, CR_Text
S1378 __, REID ________, climate change deniers still exist.
S1378 __, REID ________, the deniers.
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, deniers like to claim there are competing
S1379 __, SCHUMER _____, Climate change deniers need to wake
S1379 __, BOXER _______, The deniers have given in to the
S1381 __, BLUMENTHAL _, deniers, who are as much a part of the
S1381 __, KING ________, I would not call myself a denier, but
S1387 __, BOXER _______, but who I think is a dangerous denier,
S1387 __, BOXER _______, a dangerous denier in the face of 97 percent
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, our climate deniers tend to use. I will
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, This was a prominent climate denier
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, in Antarctica. More and more deniers
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, Some deniers also like to use responsible
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, So deniers cannot in good conscience
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, deal. Maybe it is even good. As deniers
S1388 __, SCHATZ ______, This category of deniers accepts the reality,
S1390 __, FEINSTEIN __, change deniers, reported to Congress in
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, which the climate denier community
S1392 __, WHITEHOUSE _, That is how much fuss the deniers
S1393 __, BOXER _______, deniers are standing with 3 percent of
S1393 __, BOXER _______, we have proven the point that deniers
S1395 __, FRANKEN _____, deniers have taken this as a sign that
S1400 __, KAINE _______, science deniers and leadership deniers,
S1400 __, KAINE _______, To science deniers, I am happy to say
S1401 __, KAINE _______, It is the skeptics and the deniers who
S1401 __, KAINE _______, variety, climate denier or leadership
S1401 __, KAINE _______, denier, don’t underestimate American
It is only fair to show the usage of the word “skeptic”
CR_Page , CR_Speaker _, CR_Text
S1381 __, KING ________, I was a skeptic until several years
S1385 __, INHOFE ______, for Nuremberg-style trials for skeptics.
S1385 __, INHOFE ______, skeptical of global warming
S1387 __, SCHATZ ______, climate skeptics such as American scientist
S1401 __, KAINE _______, day. The skeptics were loud, but we
S1401 __, KAINE _______, It is the skeptics and the deniers who
S1401 __, KAINE _______, So I say to the skeptics of whatever
S1404 __, MARKEY ______, If you are still skeptical, perhaps the
S1404 __, MARKEY ______, findings of another skeptic, Dr. Richard
S1404 __, MARKEY ______, of a Climate Change Skeptic.’’
S1407 __, KING ________, Maine, I was a climate skeptic. I heard
A listing of Senators on the transcripts, their States, Party, and number of lines in the Congressional Record. ( **) denotes a top ten in length. INHOFE (OK) is the only 1 of 45 Republicans using their share of the time. Both independents were present. 27 of 53 Democrats present.
BLUMENTHAL _, CT, D, _ 38
BOXER _______, CA, D, 632 **
CANTWELL ___, WA, D, _ 40
CARDIN ______, MD, D, _ 34
COONS _______, DE, D, 513 **
DURBIN ______ , IL, D, _ 43
FEINSTEIN ____, CA, D, 464 **
FRANKEN ____ , MN, D, 432
GILLIBRAND __ , NY, D, _ 38
HEINRICH ____ , NM, D, _ 34
INHOFE ______ , OK, R, 957 **
KAINE ________, VA, D, 561 **
KING _________, MA, I, 707 **
KLOBUCHAR __, MN, D, 526 **
LEAHY _______, VT, D, 168
MARKEY _____ , MA, D, 622 **
MENENDEZ ___, NJ, D, 125
MERKLEY _____, OR, D, 518 **
MURRAY ______, WA, D, _ 45
NELSON ______, FL, D, _ 28
REID _________, NV, D, 246
SANDERS _____, VT, I, 610 **
SCHATZ ______, HW, D, 257
SCHUMER ____ , NY, D, _ 33
SHAHEEN _____, NH, D, _ 10
UDALL CO ____ , CO, D, _ 40
UDALL NM ____, NM, D, _ 30
WARREN _____ , MA, D, _ 41
WHITEHOUSE _ , RI, D, 322
WYDEN _______, OR, D, 446
Bill Parsons says:
March 10, 2014 at 10:27 pm
Took a look – happened to catch the NM representative.
Curious how New Mexico’s Heinrich dwells at such length on snowfall and snowpack, comparing 2010 to this winter. Snow water Equivalent is up in 2014 between 20 – 30 % above the mean in nearly every NM drainage.
New Mexico SNOTEL Snowpack Update Report:
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/reports/UpdateReport.html;jsessionid=TrqklQQtY5RxavMluPBNU7It?report=New+Mexico&format=SNOTEL+Snowpack+Update+Report
Apparently not according to your cited data source, that shows that it’s below median in all the NM drainages!
@Phil at 9:08 am
The Daily Graphs charts, by station, tell a better story. The red markers on the maps give you the cumulative precipitation in addition to snow pack. Blue markers give only the snow pack.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/snotel/Colorado/colorado.html
[Though why we get more information on the Standard Station (red) charts than we do the Enhanced Station (blue) charts is a question I’d like answered.]
NORTH COSTILLA Precip 25% below Avg.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/view?intervalType=+View+Current+&report=WYGRAPH×eries=Daily&format=plot&sitenum=665&interval=WATERYEAR
Michigan Creek, CO (east of Breckenridge), 40% above average
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/view?intervalType=+View+Current+&report=WYGRAPH×eries=Daily&format=plot&sitenum=937&interval=WATERYEAR
@Phil at 9:08 am (continuation of my 10:01 am)
Medano Pass, Sangre de Cristo Range, S. CO. 15% below average
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/view?intervalType=+View+Current+&report=WYGRAPH×eries=Daily&format=plot&sitenum=914&interval=WATERYEAR
Red Mountain Pass, SW Colorado On Average.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/nwcc/view?intervalType=+View+Current+&report=WYGRAPH×eries=Daily&format=plot&sitenum=713&interval=WATERYEAR
By your link New Mexico appears to be under average,
Colorado appears to be above average.
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/ftpref/data/snow/basin_reports/colorado/wy2014/basnco3.txt
Bill Parsons:
http://tamino.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/new-mexico-snow/
Here’s the propaganda from the left on Monday’s pajama party.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sen-barbara-boxer/lessons-from-the-senates_b_4951118.html
Stephen Rasey says:
March 13, 2014 at 10:02 am
@Phil at 9:08 am (continuation of my 10:01 am)
By your link New Mexico appears to be under average,
Colorado appears to be above average.
Not my data, this was Bill Parson’s data in support of his assertion:
“Bill Parsons says:
March 10, 2014 at 10:27 pm
Took a look – happened to catch the NM representative.
Curious how New Mexico’s Heinrich dwells at such length on snowfall and snowpack, comparing 2010 to this winter. Snow water Equivalent is up in 2014 between 20 – 30 % above the mean in nearly every NM drainage.”
However the data he cited doesn’t support his position as I pointed out and you apparently agree.
@Phil. 3/12 at 10:08 am
I agree on the specific that New Mexico might be short 15-30% on cumulative precipitation (snow fall water content) for the season.
However, the Senator’s remarks were in the context of dangerous climate change. So going by the same data set, but for Colorado, you can only conclude that Colorado is having a year that is 10 to 40% above average. If climate change is the cause of this years! NM low snow, it must also be the cause of Colorado’s good year. That or climate change is the cause of neither.
So Senator Udall from New Mexico is engaging in excessive parochialism, fallacy a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter (inappropriate argument from the particular to the general) to support a political cause.
Correction and addition to 11:37am
So Senator
UdallHeinrich from New Mexico is engaging ….