Guest essay by By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
The Guardian, one of the fastest-collapsing “legacy” news media in Britain, is bleeding circulation more rapidly than almost any other national newspaper. One reason, perhaps, is that on the question of the climate it has long ceased to be even remotely credible.
A recent piece by Ketan Joshi on a Guardian blog trots out, yet again, the notion of “an already well-established scientific consensus on the influence of human activity on climate change”. Inevitably, there is a link to the discredited Cook et al. paper pretending there is a “97% consensus” to the effect that most of the global warming since 1950 was manmade. Unaccountably, there is no link to the subsequent paper by Legates et al. (2013), who showed that Cook et al. had themselves marked only 0.5% of the 11,944 abstracts they examined as explicitly endorsing the “consensus” as they had defined it.
The good news (regarded by Mr Joshi as bad news, of course) is that “The most recent survey of public views on anthropogenic global warming, the CSIRO’s fourth annual survey of Australian attitudes to climate change, show 39% of Australians reject a human role in global warming, a further 8% think the climate isn’t changing at all, and 6% can’t say either way.”
Take-home message: notwithstanding decades of relentless propaganda, more than half of those surveyed have not been taken in by the imagined (and imaginary) “97% consensus”.
More good news: “When asked to rank 16 social issues in terms of importance, climate change came third last. You’d be hard pressed to find any other form of scientific denialism [that hate-speech word again] with such a significant impact on the priorities of Australians.”
Mr Joshi continues with a graphic by Cook, whom he entertainingly describes as a “climate science communication expert”, purporting to show that while the public think 55% of scientists agree on global warming the true consensus is 97%.
Appealing to consensus is not a very grown-up way to conduct a scientific argument. It is the logical fallacy of the argumentum ad populum. But it is enough to fool your average “legacy” news journo, an incurably lazy beast at the best of times, into thinking that the Party Line just might – notwithstanding the volcano of real-world evidence – be right after all.
Trouble is, graphics like that of Cook are effective ways of conveying falsehoods as though they were truths. Well, it’s time to do it back to Them by using graphics as effective ways of dispelling Their falsehoods and illustrating the truths of science. I’m compiling a book of graphs and other images, impeccably sourced and accurately presented, that display the truth in a manner that cannot be dismissed or denied.
Here is an accurate graphic on the “consensus”, as determined from the data file eventually released by Cook et al.:
There seems to be something shoddy about popularizing the truth via colorful graphics rather than relying on the obscure, fuzzy charts that are the norm in most scientific journals. Yet if They colorize Their lies, we must popularize the objective scientific truth by making it visible to those who cannot read equations.
Mr Joshi maunders on: “Cook terms this the ‘consensus gap’. It’s precisely the outcome we’d expect from a systematic effort to distance public opinion from the outcomes of science. It’s likely this gap has been forced open by the efforts of conservative media commentators producing a relentless output of doubt.”
It’s also what one would expect given a growing awareness among all but the invincibly ignorant that my graphic is true. The “consensus” is now known to be 0.5%, not 97%.
Readers of WUWT are invited to join in the fun. Let me know, via comments, which your favorite graphs or other visual images are. I’ll include the best ones in the book.
Footnote. The Eschenbach Rule applies. If you want to take issue with what I have said here, don’t be a climate Nazi (© Roy Spencer, MMXIV). Please cite me accurately rather than rewording what I have said to suit the Reichspropagandaamt.
The Doran Zimmerman “consensus” was at least higher than Cook’s. It comes in at an astounding 0.7%!
There’s a couple of interesting graphics here: http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2009/climate-change-a-consensus-among-scientists/
So 0.5% of papers blamed a 0.01% change in atmospheric composition for causing at least a 0.1% change in the lower troposphere’s average temperature (measuring it in Kelvin). This is all small stuff, indeed.
Name 97 of them??
Based on Gallup, BBC, and Der Spiegel polls, skeptics are majorities or near majorities in the USA, UK, and Germany. So when alarmists insult skeptics, they insulting about 1/2 of the population. Many of whom they are trying to persuade to join their side. As a skeptic, I say if our opponents are hanging themselves, then let’s give them more rope…
Not really a graphic on consensus but I always liked the cover art on Jo Nova’s skeptic’s handbook.
http://www.greensense.com.au/gswp/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/jonova.png
“© Roy Spencer, MMXIV”
Just out of curiosity, what’s up with the fetish for writing dates and Nth of some sporting competition in roman numerals?
mpcraig:
Thanks for the comedy.
@MattS – he’s just being true to form for SkS/John Cook depictions of skeptics.
See: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/weareskeptics.jpg
Nylo says:
February 26, 2014 at 11:23 am
So 0.5% of papers blamed a 0.01% change in atmospheric composition for causing at least a 0.1% change in the lower troposphere’s average temperature (measuring it in Kelvin). This is all small stuff, indeed.
Or to put it another way, a 43% increase in CO2, causing, what a 0.3% (1C) rise LT temps
The replies to the Doran Zimmerman survey by those surveyed were quite revealing. Many questioned the validity of the survey questions, such as requesting a definition of “Pre-Industrial” and pointing out the huge changes in CO2 over the history of the Earth. The 79 respondents who made the “Consensus” had self-identified as having published over 50% of their papers in the field of “Climate Science.” Only two questions had to be answered “Yes.” Zimmerman was a grad student, actually did the entire thing herself as classwork for Doran.
The Main Stream Media use this absurd statistic from this even-more-absurd survey in nearly every Climate Change piece. They don’t have to make sense, they just have to have plausibility to technically illiterate people. As Will Rogers put it so well, “Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel…”
I like to show a bars graphic with the composition of the atmosphere, pre-industrial and current. The length of the bar needs to be at least about 2400 pixels for CO2 to appear with a single pixel width at current concentration. Which means it will not appear on a normal monitor unless you zoom in, and both atmospheric compositions will look exactly the same. Most people don’t really realize what ppm means and how minuscule is the change in atmospheric composition that we are causing. It is also instructing to show them the atmospheric composition without any labels for the different gases and ask them which of the sectors they think represents CO2.
https://www.enviromedia.com/enviroblog/?p=1023
@Anthony Watts,
LOL!
Nylo says:
February 26, 2014 at 11:43 am
I like to show a bars graphic with the composition of the atmosphere, pre-industrial and current.
The point is that the O2, N2 & Argon are transparent to IR radiation
– so they are irrelevant……
– it’s only the molecules that can interact with the photons that are of relevance when discussing the Green House effect
– that’d be CO2, H2O, CH4 …
… and CO2 has increased by 43% since pre-industrial times
If 0.5% of Doctors you ask agree that you need surgery…
C3 are big on graphics Lord M, although I dare say you’re familiar with them already.
Worth a look for sure.
http://www.c3headlines.com
mpcraig says:
February 26, 2014 at 11:19 am
There’s a couple of interesting graphics here:
I have seen the graphics, my reaction was the same as from several commenters: you can’t count everybody who didn’t sign the Oregon Petition as being pro-consensus.
And about the question why so many engineers are amongst the signers: their daily work implies accuracy. If they don’t, lives may be lost. In my (pre-retirement) job as good as for many of the signers’ jobs: I have been working with the practical appliance of computer models in a real factory. Some models did do an excellent job, some were disasters, costing a lot of money by product and production loss (lucky no lives). Thus I may be entitled to comment on the performance of climate models, even if I have not the slightest degree in climate related sciences.
And the climate models are in the disaster category: if the cruise control of your car was performing as good, you would drive 100 km/h with your control set to 50 km/h, heading for disaster…
Lord M,
Excellent analysis, as usual.
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mpcraig,
Re: your ‘interesting graphics’, there is a problem with that.
First, the vast majority of US scientists were never approached with the OISM Petition, which was circulated just prior, and in response to the 1997 Kyoto Protocol. [The US never joined Kyoto, so the tens of thousands of scientists probably had a sufficient effect.]
Also, no group of alarmist scientists has ever been able to produce anything near to the OISM numbers. Therefore, their attempt to denigrate the OISM numbers is just sour grapes.
If you can produce a similar co-signed statement by thousands of alarmist scientists with similar qualifications, stating that CO2 is measurably harmful to the planet, please do so.
Post it here. I’ll wait. ☺
Thank you Lord Monckton .
I think a simple one glance graphic is a potent messenger. I like the
clip_image004 = http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/clip_image0042.png
Having some experience in communicating simple yet hard to communicate ideals, I might suggest a bar chart of the 11,944 vs 64. It places a relative scale in the forefront of the discussion.
Re: “don’t be a climate Nazi (© Roy Spencer, MMXIV)”
Please correct. Roy Spencer actually posted: Time to push back against the global warming Nazis
I”nevitably, there is a link to the discredited Cook et al. paper pretending there is a “97% consensus” to the effect that most of the global warming since 1950 was manmade.”
The warmists’ most powerful weapon…a supposed 97 percent consensus on CAGW…. is fraudulent. Without their overwhelming consensus myth, the warmist argument for draconian mitigation efforts becomes toothless. Imvho, this is where a major part of our fight should be focused…that is on relentlessly challenging all claims of consensus. If I were an ill-informed warmist (which i was just a few years ago), I would not be swayed by lofty philosophy of science arguments, no matter how eloquently framed…. about the pitfalls of scientific consensus. And in fact they are not…
We can play dueling papers from now until the next ice age, but nothing will put a stake into the beating heart of the warmist cause than demonstrating the falsity of the consensus claim.
Even if it could be proven that 97% of the entire Earth’s population believed in a fallacy, it would still be a fallacy.
At one time, if you had asked people if the Earth was the center of the universe, you would have gotten a resounding “yes”. Learned men in the Church and in the scientific community believed this, the average man on the street wouldn’t have dreamed of questioning it. It was still a fallacy.
I don’t buy the “consensus” theory now. “Consensus” proves nothing in and of itself.
Right now, the CAGW community will have a hard time convincing me if only because their methods are that of a cult, for want of a better term. “Get on the bandwagon, everybody believes this is true”– “There is no debate, we’re right and everybody else is wrong” and of course don’t forget the “kill the heretics” statements that have come out lately.
I’m still waiting for my share of the loot that is supposedly being paid to those who deny CAGW, by the way. When do I get the first check? Oh, I don’t? Pshaw, CAGW promoters told me I was being paid to say these things. No check, eh? Well, I guess I’ll just keep saying the emperor is naked anyway.
Ferdinand Engelbeen says:
February 26, 2014 at 12:02 pm
I have seen the graphics, my reaction was the same as from several commenters: you can’t count everybody who didn’t sign the Oregon Petition as being pro-consensus.
Um, if one could use that logic, then everybody who didn’t sign the Oregon Petition (unless they signed a paper stating they are not going to sign it) could be considered “scientists who haven’t signed it yet”.
David L. Hagen says:
February 26, 2014 at 12:14 pm
Re: “don’t be a climate Nazi (© Roy Spencer, MMXIV)”
Please correct. Roy Spencer actually posted: Time to push back against the global warming Nazis
Too many of us for too long have ignored the repulsive, extremist nature of the comparison. It’s time to push back.
I’m now going to start calling these people “global warming Nazis”.
Yeah, but he may have chosen “global warming Nazis” because
Climate Change Nazi and Climate Disruption Nazi was already used.
>>> invincibly ignorant <<<
Good God man, you have a gift!
How about one of these?
http://media3.picsearch.com/is?_FTDphTFgmaWMly6lMm8lem9XqENhL2-yZmwUMyxDcg&height=341
http://media1.picsearch.com/is?ZDUthKW69UlSAyQmNzmzLbknZ2rcTd6jztWefvF7eO0&height=260
(Of course you’d have to rename it the “Clitanic”.)
I would like to see graphs that show surface temps from around 1990 and the newer versions. Concentrating on Medieval warming period and others showing the pre and post updated version like GISS for example.
I am not sure if the one that show high CO.2 and ice ages (Dr. Moore just mentioned this in his testimony the other day) would be effective, but I would think so.
How about a skeptical version of the “step” gif used at skeptical science. Showing how the 1910-1940 increase is eerily similar to the warming from 1975 to 2000.
Good luck!
Ed, ‘Mr’ Jones says:
February 26, 2014 at 12:33 pm
>>> invincibly ignorant <<<
Good God man, you have a gift!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_(Catholic_theology)
Michael Moon says:
“Zimmerman was a grad student, actually did the entire thing herself as classwork for Doran.”
Actually Zimmerman did it as a thesis in partial fulfillment for a Masters degree. Doran was her graduate adviser.
http://vufind.carli.illinois.edu/vf-uic/Record/uic_2145399
I have long said that the only way to shut them up, is to use their tactics against them. Either they will pipe down, or they’ll change their tactics because “their” tactics are now “our” tactics. If graphics catch low information readers, then we should use them. Same style, same font etc-with just a little difference so people can tell the difference and with the TRUTH on them. Subconsciously people WILL start to register that just because it’s in a red circle or uses a “professional” looking image doesn’t mean it’s true. It’s the WHOLE REASON Cook changed his current course of study from “science” to communications. He’s studying social sciences and how to “influence” people subtlety with propaganda. Scarey little man that he is.
So I’m all for it Lord M! Give me all their best graphics with the truth in them. I can’t wait to post them in response every time one of their fallacies get’s posted somewhere.
I was always fond of the “green bars” chart published By Lawrence Solomon in the Financial Post, depicting how rare it is to be living in such a confortable clime and how soon much colder temperatures may soon prevail. Reported by WUWT over four years ago:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/01/inbetweeners-enjoy-the-warmth-while-it-lasts/
dbstealey says:
February 26, 2014 at 12:11 pm
mpcraig,
Re: your ‘interesting graphics’, there is a problem with that.
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I guess I should have put “interesting” in quotes because I’m well aware of the problems with those graphs.
The first and most obvious is that the Oregon Petition statement doesn’t indicate that it “disagrees with human-induced climate change”. That’s a blatant misrepresentation of the actual statement of which the main point is:
“There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.”
I had interpreted that Monckton also was going to include a section on ridiculous or distorting pictures as well. That’s what I meant by “interesting”.
Too many words on the 99.5% graphic. It will be confused with Cook’s by the minimally-informed. You must keep it simple.
John Who
Global warming fascist
By “Global warming Nazi”, Roy Spencer was is pointing out that global warming extremists/alarmists are imposing their beliefs on all others by dictatorial authoritarian methods. The Nazis were the worst example.
An equivalent characterization is: “Global warming fascist”
See the definition of facism:
See usage:
Global warming fascist.
Eco-Facists
Eco-facism
Climate facism
Climate Facist
Denier or “scientific denialism” (whatever they mean by that), it’s clearly just a projection of guilt now.
@ mpcraig
How many scientists have said in writing that they haven’t seen credible evidence suggesting the North American Wood Ape exists?
KenW
The bar graph you would like to see would need to be plotted on logarithmic paper to make the 64 papers even visible, as the two values are three orders of magnitude different. And then we would be accused of cooking the numbers (pun intended) by plotting on a logarithmic scale rather than actual values.
So….45% of Brits are getting their all their climate info from watching Fox News.
Who knew?
cn
My favourite graph is at http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ – not only does it come from the longest temperature record in the world, it shows the current cooling, and it shows a lot of warming and cooling periods in the past.
Thanks, Christopher.
The CSIRO’s survey report is the public view, as opposed to the argument that there is consensus amongst scientists. The alarmists will argue that the public are stupid and ignorant, or have been swayed by denialists. They will still argue that the scientists all agree that AGW will be catastrophic, therefore we must [insert ideologically inspired policy agenda].
The problem is that in trying to frame the consensus statement there is an innate inability, or sometimes wilful refusal, to quantify. When we say “97% scientists agree X”, then we need to be very clear what X is. Cook et al were testing “explicit or implicit endorsement of human-caused global warming”, and because this is unquantified this could mean humans cause a trivial amount of warming, or humans have caused dangerous warming. Of course to alarmists it means “AGW is catastrophic”. Because there is no clarity around what scientists are supposed to be agreeing on, the consensus statement is meaningless.
And Legates et al demonstrates how it is possible to interpret that lack of quantification to suggest that scientists agree on the opposite viewpoint to the alarmist view.
On images of consensus, I rather like (A HREF=”http://sppiblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/sheep1.jpg”> this one.
http://sppiblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/sheep1.jpg
Lao Tzu in Art of War would never respond to chants from the enemy because its just playing their game with their narrative adopting their framing. e.g the denier word. So i despair when people respond to them using the word nazi etc because it means they have framed the debate so one is always being reactionary and without the initiative.
The same with statistics. People have a distrust of them anyway.
In war you identify where people are weak and hit with speed and surprise. Where is the co2 deathstar camp weak?
1. Their predictions are based on unverified models that cannot model historical climate so why even look at their predictions and place huge billion dollar tax money bets on them? Ask people why they promote predictions from unverified models that cannot model historical known climate?
2. Their use of world averages. World averages hide a lot of regional sins and give the impression their data is valid globally [global is a key word for them]. e.g world temp av and world sea level rise av [tide gauges show drops of -6mm in cases]
3.taxes can micro manage climate
there are more but space is limited
the munch scream kinda sums the ‘a co2 deathstar is coming to kill us’ mindset up imo and if you want to live in a munch scream the fast decaying magnetic shield would give u more to scream about than warming. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scream
mwhite says: February 26, 2014 at 11:31 am
Name 97 of them??
Close. More like
you gotta name 32 warmists for every skeptic I name.
Anthony Watts says: February 26, 2014 at 11:40 am
See: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/weareskeptics.jpg
Like you three hoplites are worried about getting stabbed by icicles. Sure.
Here’s my favorite graph, poster child for improving the “raw” USHCN data.
http://www.rockyhigh66.org/stuff/olney_raw_anim.gif
97% R 95% certain it COULD be and 0% R certain it WILL be and 31 years of nothing beyond COULD BE proves it won’t be a cataclysmic climate blame crisis. Deny that!
if you have the funds just make a measured documentary with a richard curtis style dismantling of An Inconvenient Truth. u might even get a nobel prize lol
An Inconvenient Truth says it ‘ ultimately shows us that global warming is no longer a political issue but rather, the biggest moral challenge facing our civilization today’. So they not even selling science but politics and morality?
what has politics and morality to do with predictions from unvalidated models that cannot model past history? I would get psychologists in to comment on what type of personality bases politics and morality upon fictions and myths of ‘co2 deathstars coming to kill us all’?
it would probably fit the official criteria for a cult?
basically you are trying to talk down severe anxiety/hysterical people who are/have been convinced the end of the world is coming [which is childish].
its not easy to know what to do. but one can identify what NOT to do. one needs the skills of a psychologist.to reassure and stablise them in a comfort zone.These are highly stressed out people with no sense of humour so making them laugh [at themselves] is a good way because they know deep down there are flaws and contradictions in their calculations but they are just too terrified to admit it..
an airplane! type comedy film on climate science would work.
as long as they think you are ‘the enemy’ they won’t fight among themselves [which they will]
I saw a great cartoon years ago on a different topic, but still a taxation issue, that could possibly be adapted.
Two panels. The first one shows how many cars and houses (for example) Al Gore has now. The next panel shows 2/3 of them gone. The caption reads, “This is how many he will have left if we implement de-carbonization of the economy. How many will you have left?
From the title, I thought this would be pictures of mother Nature’s graphic pushback. (All the snow and cold)
Hello Lord Monckton! Saw you in Perth – great talk.
Some ‘graphics:’
Your Legate et al 2013 study represented as a cartoon:
http://itsnotclimatescience.com/0035.html
Most of my cartoons contain references on the ‘Links’ page, and I’ve linked to the Legate study on the links for this cartoon.
the Met office’s predictions:
http://itsnotclimatescience.com/0025.5.html
The climate supercomputer:
http://itsnotclimatescience.com/0002.html
The hypocrisy of people who preach at us about our ‘carbon footprint’ and then jetset around the world:
http://itsnotclimatescience.com/0003.html
etc etc.
Just brilliant and original! Takes the debate to a new level, and despite this, is easy to read. No “fuzzy” graphs or complicated equations either to deal with. No wonder those green Nazis, or should I say Greenshirts, feel so threatened by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley.
David L. Hagen says:
February 26, 2014 at 1:25 pm
John Who
Global warming fascist
By “Global warming Nazi”, Roy Spencer was is pointing out that global warming extremists/alarmists are imposing their beliefs on all others by dictatorial authoritarian methods. The Nazis were the worst example.
Well, except Dr. Spencer was pointing out that using the phrase “Global Warming Denier” or “Climate Change Denier” may link people in some minds to “Holocaust Denier”. Therefore, mentally suggesting an Alarmist/Warmist was acting “Nazi like” seems to be equally inappropriate.
To many, being accused of being either a Holocaust Denier or a Nazi is equally disgusting/offensive.
I would argue, however, that being called a Climate Change Denier is far from an accurate depiction of one who claims the “climate change skeptic” position. On the other hand, calling some of the Alarmist/Warmists “Global Warming Nazis”, while perhaps not being as accurate as you would prefer, is still a more accurate characterization than the “Denier” label is.
JMHO
These issues are important, because asPointmannoted: MAKE NO MISTAKE, WORDS ARE AMMO.
One image, showing a body in an open coffin.
The caption: “The result if man stopped emitting CO2 into the atmosphere”.
‘Nuff said.
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Excellent idea Lord. Once you have the graphics how about bombarding the MSM with them.
What I’d like to know is why the CSIRO is conducting climate change “surveys”. Surely that’s the job of commercial polling organisations?
More pointedly, this survey was conducted by, “Zoe Leviston, a social psychologist at CSIRO”. Why is Australia’s leading science research organisation employing social psychologists, for goodness’ sake?
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/survey-puts-australians-climate-change-concerns-way-down-list-20140206-324ok.html
The CO2 increase really didn’t start to take off until about mid century of the 20th century.
@NotTheAussiePhilM
The point is that the O2, N2 & Argon are transparent to IR radiation
– so they are irrelevant……
– it’s only the molecules that can interact with the photons that are of relevance when discussing the Green House effect
– that’d be CO2, H2O, CH4 …
+++++++++++++
Well, wait a minute here. Argon is a very good insulator. When referring to temperature, there are two things taking place: GH and simple ‘insulation’. If the Earth were wrapped in only an Argon blanket it would be warmer than without it because Argon is heated by contact with the ground and doesn’t emit IR well so it stays warm. But this is a quibble.
O2 actually does interact with IR radiation but that is a quibble too.
A good graphic would be to present the radiative/reflective effectiveness of all gases proportional to their effect in the atmosphere. In such a bar chart, for example, one would show direct radiation/reflection from the ground and water vapour as the largest emitters. Vertical scale is Watts or teraWatts. The radiation from CO2 would be height ‘x’. Do the same for water. Then show how much the water vapour variation is over a measurement period, say since balloons gave good data. Compare the Wattage of radiation from water vapour (high and low concentrations) by creating a vertical bar on the chart with a grey zone at the top showing its variability.
Then show the variation in the emissions from CO2 over the same period as an emitter using the same scale. The point is to demonstrate that the small % variation in water vapour completely overwhelms the effect of a doubling of CO2 concentration. This is because a) there is a far greater amount of water vapour (including ice which is 99% as efficient as water ‘gas’) and b) because there isn’t all that much IR left once water has taken its slice of the IR pie.
In order to do this correctly, it must be pointed out that doubling CO2 does not double the emitted energy, and because it is a small player in a complex of gases, the increase in not even proportional logarithmically to the CO2 concentration because it is not acting alone. It is more complicated than that.
It is easily forgotten that both ice and water are very bright in the IR spectrum. One reason ‘the team’ was so desperate to convince people that water vapour ‘is only a feedback’ was to avoid bringing attention to this point. Thus a graphic slaying ‘feedback only’ dragon would be good. If there were no CO2 all and no GHG’s and no atmosphere save what sublimated off snowball earth, the loss of heat into space would still be by IR from the ice which is a very good emitter.
Thanks, Lord Monckton. More strength to your writing arm!
To be able to turn 0.5% into 97% shows just far current ‘climate science’ is from reality. Science needs an overhaul.
Suggested graph: Nir Shaviv’s graph showing the IPCC’s “improvement” in its estimate of the likely range of equilibrium climate sensitivity over the five IPCC reports and their predecessor: http://www.sciencebits.com/files/pictures/climate/SensitivityVsTime.jpg. (From: http://www.sciencebits.com/AR5-FirstImpressions).
39 + 8 + 6 = 53%.
So 53% of Australians have more extreme anti-CAGW views than I do! And I’ve written a book against the theory! (Carbon Is Life)
To explain:
(The 39%) More extreme than me because I think humans heat or cool the planet all the time with normal industry; in particular, all engines release heat.
(The 8%) Of course the climate is changing! It always changes and always has. Only inventors of hockey sticks think otherwise.
(6% can’t say either way) Well I do say, on the “GW” side, not the anti-GW side, as my above two explanations show.
So here I am, a complete disbeliever in CAGW, who holds it to be the greatest hoax ever perpetrated upon humanity, with more extreme pro-GW beliefs than 53% of Australians.
Which raises the question: If I had answered this survey, would I not have been listed as a believer in CAGW? That is, despite the bad result for the warmists, the survey didn’t test what it claimed to test, and even the poor results it did get don’t stand up. (97% surveys come to mind.) Isn’t that just typical?
What we need is a pie chart of the IPCC’s level of uncertainty of warming in the short term. Just don’t know if you would see much between 99.5% and 100%.
Oops 95% – 100%
I decided to do a quick Google search check to see how easy it would be to read articles claiming that the 97% concensus was junk science.
The first Google result was a WUWT article. I didn’t bother reading it.
The second was a fascinating article from Popular Technology.net. Any media reporter who read this article alone would have grounds to be very suspicious. Link below for the curious.
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-study-falsely-classifies-scientists.html
I love the website, this article, and the comments. I sum it up this way…. Man mad climate change is equal to the impact the fart of a flea would have on Hurricane Katrina. I’m sure the flea would think it made a difference, but no one else would think so.
I really liked John Who’s idea, but think the caption can be improved “A man who reduced his CO2 emissions to zero.”:
JohnWho says:
February 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm
One image, showing a body in an open coffin.
The caption: “The result if man stopped emitting CO2 into the atmosphere”.
Your Lordship,
For pure graphical fun and putting 20th century warming into perspective:
http://s22.postimg.org/h73fr7elt/NOAA_Update_B.gif
Thank you, Lord Monckton. Keep up the good work!
Take a look at this graphic: climatesolutions.org/programs/NBI
So, 350PPM is our “safe limit???
A friend sent e an email with a bunch of global maps showing populations, countries that donate, etc. I believe it is very pertinent to this discussion. I would like to send it to Lord Monckton and Anthony for their opinions.
Please email me at bradlweaver at comcast.net.
[The mods recommend no one use a complete (or un-parsed) email on a public forum. Anyone wanting a real address can de-cipher an address. Mod]
Lao Tzu in Art of War
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A foolish commander limits his choice of weapons.
Mylord,
what should absolutely be included as a graph are:
– the amount oft CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere
– the amount of man-made CO2 in this
– the relevant absorption ob IR radiation of this minuscule fraction of CO2, itself again being negligible.
As I had to learn the hard way, most of the scientifically uneducated populace are blissfully unaware oft these simple facts, which in themselves are basically all the arguments you’d need to adopt a sceptical position towards AGW.
Thank you and keep it up!
Ed
While they are not diagrams of scientific fact, I would strongly recommend that a few of Josh’s excellent cartoons be included.
A bit of humour should enhance the appeal.
I particularly like the one from last year with a group of “Climateers” standing in front of a giant climate computer, looking at a tiny dial labelled “CO2” as another one pops his head round the corner saying “Hey, I’ve found one that does oceans”.
I love the graph that shows global temperature in absolute terms ie kelvin which is how it should be shown. The one that shows how remarkably stable our climate is, so stable that it must be dominated by negative feedback.
Does anyone have the reference to Legates et al 2013 please? Thanks.
Dudley Horscroft says:
February 26, 2014 at 6:34 pm
I really liked John Who’s idea, but think the caption can be improved “A man who reduced his CO2 emissions to zero.”:
JohnWho says:
February 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm
One image, showing a body in an open coffin.
The caption: “The result if man stopped emitting CO2 into the atmosphere”.
Either way the cartoon would be no laughing matter.
🙂
I named myself “whatwarming”
bad move..they allowed ONE first comment of mine and everything since is premodded and never gets seen thereafter
typical of the G crowd.
“But it is enough to fool your average “legacy” news journo, an incurably lazy beast at the best of times, into thinking that the Party Line just might – notwithstanding the volcano of real-world evidence – be right after all.”
How dare he call journalists lazy – why, I spent 40 years as a journalist and I can guarantee that, um, er, I- uh, zzzzzzzzzz.
Appealing to consensus is not a very grown-up way to conduct a scientific argument. It is the logical fallacy of the argumentum ad populum. But it is enough to fool your average “legacy” news journo, an incurably lazy beast at the best of times, into thinking that the Party Line just might – notwithstanding the volcano of real-world evidence – be right after all.
Or a lower level education way of saying it would be as a poster a few weeks ago, paraphrasing.
In other news, the kids in the neighborhood just held a vote on the sex of my cat.
@Tom G(ologist) “..would need to be plotted on logarithmic paper to make the 64 papers even visible…”
of course you are correct, however that was precisely my intent: to purposely drive home the relative volume of data. We often use a magifying glass graphic over the small bar/column to show it enlarged.
NotTheAussiePhilM says:
February 26, 2014 at 11:56 am
Nylo says:
February 26, 2014 at 11:43 am
… and CO2 has increased by 43% since pre-industrial times
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And H2O concentration changes by up to hundreds of percent on an hourly basis.
Chris B says:
It appears that the issue of ignorance really bothered Catholics through the ages. Here’s another (sort of) famous take on ignorance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Docta_Ignorantia
“… the limits of science need to be passed by means of speculation.”
David L. Hagen says: @ February 26, 2014 at 12:14 pm
Re: “don’t be a climate Nazi (© Roy Spencer, MMXIV)”
Please correct. Roy Spencer actually posted: ….
I’m now going to start calling these people “global warming Nazis”.
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You are correct.
We should not let them morph Global Warming into Climate Change. (The climate is always changing)
How about calling them Climate Commies?
I see that Lord Monckton of Brenchley keeps extending his considerable vocabulary; and has now adopted that new chic word du jour, “legacy” news media.
Good on ya Christopher. We have to keep up with the Jones’s here at WUWT, so we watch like a falcon, for the emergence of new terminology, that has your blessing; even if the “Guardian’s star reporter” uses that term as well. We’ll show them, that we also understand that term for soon to be dinosaur fossils.
I don’t have a link to a graphic but maybe someone here can make it for you.
Have you seen those pictures in books designed to show how small the solar system is compared to the known universe? They have a cube that is the solar system and show how small a part it is of another cube that shows the Milky Way then another cube that shows how small a part the Milky Way is of … etc. etc.
Gunga Din says:
February 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm
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Then they put all of that next to a picture of how big M Mann thinks his brain is.
Its quite a racket ,while blaming everyone else , they are polluting the climate and air themselves , its the old trick look over there” while the reality is on the other side deception… [snip. No HAARP, please. ~ mod.]
Most of the Guardian Readers , with whom I exchange comments on their eco (CAWG) blogs are quite lovable , There are a few who appear to do nothing but shout “liar” at any realists comments.At any rate , one does feel sorry for a lot of them caught in the green mindspeak, even if refuting their comments is a bit like clubbing baby seals,
One of the alarmists has written 4500 posts in less than 6 months ,mostly of the extremely rude ,non scientific type for which I am calling him to account.
Having fun at any rate , as the demon from the film “Fallen ” always whistled , Time is on my side.