Last weekend I pointed out that 350.org leader Bill McKibben had endorsed the antics of some 350.org members in Texas that adopted tactics of the Klu Klux Klan – showing up at somebody’s house with mask covered faces, torches, and a threat:
It seems the well deserved ridicule of these cowards has had an effect, they have disappeared that photo from their website. See here: http://www.tarsandsblockade.org/enbridge-home-demo/
Fortunately, I have a copy of the entire web page before that disappearing act took place.
See the PDF: Tar Sands Blockade – Enbridge
No apology, just down the memory hole. What a bunch of cowardly and pathetic people they are. That goes for Bill McKibben too who thought this was a good enough idea to promote with a tweet rather than condemn it.
Well, The Hockey Stick disappeared. Why not its supporters?
This is what happens when the environment becomes a religion to people.
Reblogged this on RubinoWorld and commented:
Left wing terrorism . . .
The hypocrites were heating the globe with their torches.
“Solidarity means attack.”
Wow. That is shocking, yet not surprising. I’m reminded of the left’s embrace of the anarchist crowd hiding in plain sight within the Occupy movement.
It was painful to listen to their diatribe. At least the homeowner/target of their attack was polite and civil. Apparently every illness and social evil can be traced to fossil fuels. In the meantime, I am mightily thankful for the fact that I am sitting in relative comfort in the frigid state of Wisconsin, courtesy of fossil fuels. My Mother recently related what it was like here during the Depression when her family could not afford to buy coal. The irony is that back then, people did not blame their plight on a bogey man.
And it gets uglier as the desperation sets in.
Reblogged this on Power To The People and commented:
By the looks of it the 350 organization members goal is to send humanity back to the dark ages when life was short and brutal and humanity was made up of a bunch of warring tribal savages.
They recalled somethings we have in Texas: castle law and gun rights.
Anyone notice that scrawl in the lower left(ist) corner? “Solidarity means attack”. Here is what comes to my mind upon reading that:
1. No, actually it doesn’t mean that at all. If you hadn’t flunked out of preschool, you would have eventually learned that the Solidarity movement was in fact non-violent and began the fall of the very political system you excrement want to usher back in.
2. That doesn’t even make grammatical sense. Are you saying it’s an equivalent statement, as though ‘solidarity’ equals ‘attack’? One is a verb and the other is…wait…the flunking…I forgot. I’m only confusing you more.
3. If you want to say attack, then why didn’t you just come out and say…”attack”? I mean, you’re standing in front of somebody’s home with torches and masks; just finish the job.
Is this so that your various forms of cowardice don’t clash? Or is it you just want to be edgy and fingerpaint a word onto your poster that you have absolutely no understanding of? Actually, that matches quite well to your complete lack of understanding with regards to science.
This is actually a victory for us. I’m not sure even the prodigy of non-GMO, all grass-fed, free-range, exquisitely filthy hippies could spin this into anything but horrifying.
… And that’s saying something.
we’re dealing with terrorists here.
Time to treat them as terrorists.
This is beyond sickening, beyond democracy, beyond chilling. The scene evokes memories of fascist torch rallies of the 30s. Nothing better could possibly show the eco movement for what it is than the photos above. This is their vision of themselves – how appropriate in the extreme.
You know, you have to hand it to them, They managed to get every 350.org member in the entire State of Texas together for that picture!
I hope Lord Deben reads this post.
350. org. The KKK of Klimate Khange Konsensus ………:-) That would make McKibben a grand wizard wouldn’t it?…..
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I’m not so sure. They might have imported a few.
Here is something Obama won’t tweet about and the likes of Jon Stewart will carefully ignore.
It is amazing that in the age of the internet so many people could be so blatantly ignorant. We are indeed doomed.
College Progressive says, “Down with the corporate agenda!”
Facebook update from iPhone.
350.org…..= Klimate Khange Konsensus. 🙂
Zeke said:
“College Progressive says, “Down with the corporate agenda!”
Facebook update from iPhone.”
You, my friend, have razor-sharp wit. 🙂 I approve.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh, don’t those torches add a bit of CO2 “pollution”. Wouldn’t need them if they had the gonads to come out in daylight, but then again, they’d have to get out of bed earlier.
Considering that simple LED flashlights now come standard with a gazillion lumens, I can only guess the open flame torches were intended for something destructive. Terrorists with covered faces and espousing violence to achieve their stated objectives should be very careful with fire.
And be sure to bring more than nine protesters next time. One in the chamber and eight in the tube equals 81 counter-protesters. /sarc off/
I think they photoshopped a few extras in. Probably a cut and paste from Burning Man.
No actually College Progressive is real! 😉 😀
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/120189883775573049/
1. The MSM have picked up this story. I searched with the string of words below
Enbridge +protest + home +torches
Bing gave over 5,000 returns but I only looked at the Washington Times.
2. Perhaps a good thing to do when this happens again would be to call 911 and report a fire.
3. The protester’s claim to represent “The People” is bunk and they likely have no idea of Native claims to this usage.
4. Bill M. needs friends that will keep him on his meds.
I make no bones about it: if McKibben brought his terrorists around to my house THEY would find themselves staring down the barrel of a gun – 12 gauge pump, five rounds of double-ought buck.
Those scum should be arrested for domestic terrorism, because that is exactly what they were engaged in.
As far as laws go, I wonder if they had a burning permit?
Eco-terrorists.
Should be prosecuted for assault.
Re: John F. Hultquist
The Washingtone Times
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Masked protesters carrying torches and threatening organized violence protested outside the home of an executive at a major oil pipeline company last week.”
They ballsed up the first sentence so bad, I couldn’t bear to read on. God they are hopeless.
“Fox” news uses that photo often, Kelly used it again tonight in an interview with the former(?) CEO of Shell. Suspect that shot will haunt them for years — I hope.
Anthony, please leave this thread on ‘active” for awhile so we can refer friends to it to see the photo. If ever there were evidence of the criminality of the so-called “environmental” movement, this is it. This picture needs to be publicized everywhere, and der Fuehrer and his facilitators of this shit need to have their noses rubbed in it.
Surely another “fire” for the Chosen One in the White House to hose down?
Sorry…forgot he’s a solar man.
If what passes for their leadership will not condemn such excesses, then it’s more than ever incumbent on the skeptic blogosphere to highlight such incidents and give vocal support to those individuals brave enough to stand up to brute intimidation.
http://thepointman.wordpress.com/2014/02/13/what-a-bunch-of-pissant-spineless-scum-they-really-are-what-a-bunch-of-pissant-spineless-scum-they-are/
Pointman
I’m sorry to repeat this. “Solidarity means attack!” Others have commented on the flag, but I just can’t help it.
Those people are not only ignorant, but they are certifiable morons. Where does McKibben find these idiots? Do they stand on street corners just waiting for a torch, robe, and box-lunch before getting on a yellow bus? Somehow, McKibben thinks that an allusion to Simon and Garfunkel is a cool thing. Good grief! The whole thing was a circus.
Lets hope us skeptics never do this type of thing. Reason and science are the tools that have improved mankind’s well being though history. And even now the richer we become the less impact and beneficial effect we have on nature,
Want to reduce carbon (CO2), plant at tree. Taxes on carbon just make people poorer and most of all hurts the poorest.
Lewandowsky’s uni makes the headlines again:
14 Feb: SMH: Peter Hannam: Intense marine heatwaves destroy 400-year-old reefs off WA’s Pilbara coast
“Probably half the total area there has seen quite severe bleaching of some or all of the corals over the past couple of years,” said Russ Babcock, CSIRO’s lead scientist for the joint survey with the University of Western Australia…
The bleached coral discoveries came as the CSIRO and the UWA began research on the region as part of a $12 million, five-year survey project partly funded by environmental offsets from Chevron’s $60 billion Gorgon Liquefied Natural Gas project…
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/intense-marine-heatwaves-destroy-400yearold-reefs-off-was-pilbara-coast-20140213-32n40.html
and it’s only part 1! ABC can’t bear to say Chevron!
13 Feb: ABC: Coral reef off Pilbara coast in Western Australia decimated by marine heatwave, scientists say
The results from the first part of a five-year, $12 million study of the coastline are due to be released today…
Western Australian Environment Minister Albert Jacob says the bleaching is a concern, but that much of it appeared to be a response to a recent La Nina event.
“It’s a very good example, I think, of where this research project will be of great assistance,” he said…
The funding for the study came from the Gorgon development, which is required to contribute $60 million over 30 years for conservation projects across WA…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-13/ancient-coral-off-wa-coast-decimated-by-marine-heatwave/5255804
the UWA/Chevron rort reminds me of the following:
2002: NYT: Andrew C. Revkin: Exxon-Led Group Is Giving A Climate Grant to
Stanford
Four big international companies, including the oil giant Exxon Mobil, said
yesterday that they would give Stanford University $225 million over 10
years for research on ways to meet growing energy needs without worsening
global warming.
Exxon Mobil, whose pledge of $100 million makes it the biggest of the four
contributors, issued a statement saying new techniques for producing energy
while reducing emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases were ”vital to
meeting energy needs in the industrialized and developing world.”…
With the new corporate money, Stanford will create the Global Climate and
Energy Project, an independent research group controlled by the university.
Any resulting technologies or patents will belong to the university,
Stanford officials said…
In addition to Exxon Mobil, the contributors are General Electric, which
said it would give $50 million; E.ON, a large German energy company with
nuclear and conventional power plants, giving $50 million; and Schlumberger,
the oil-field technology company, giving $25 million…
The money for climate research is ”only one-tenth of 1 percent of what
Exxon Mobil will spend over the same time exploring and developing new
sources of oil and gas,” said ***Pete Altman, the coordinator of a
shareholder group pressing to change the company’s environmental practices.
That development, Mr. Altman said, ”is what is causing global warming in
the first place.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/21/us/exxon-led-group-is-giving-a-climate-grant-to-stanford.html
***wonder where Pete Altman ended up?
LinkedIn: Peter Altman
Climate Campaign Director NRDC
Nonprofit; 201-500 employees; Environmental Services industry
December 2007 – Present (6 years 3 months) …
Past Experience:
Executive Director Texas Fund for Energy and Environmental Education
March 1996 – August 2003 (7 years 6 months)
Projects included:
Campaign ExxonMobil, a shareholder campaign and coalition of faith, investor
and environmental groups to change the company’s position on global
warming…
http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteraltman
notice Revkin didn’t bother to mention who Altman worked for back then.
gabrianga said:
February 13, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Surely another “fire” for the Chosen One in the White House to hose down?
Sorry…forgot he’s a solar man.
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Yeah obama is le Roi-Soleil
WARNING: EXTREME WACAKADOODLING AHEAD:
VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: Meteorologist Jeff Masters: Climate Change Affecting Weather Patterns Regardless of Season
TRANSCRIPT:
AMY GOODMAN: You’ve written that if Philadelphia International Airport receives six inches or more of snow from this system, it would be the first time since record keeping began during the winter of 1884 to ’85 that Philadelphia has had four separate six-inch or greater snowstorms in the winter. Talk about what the trend—and can you relate—you know, so often the climate change deniers mock anyone who connects this kind of freezing weather with global warming. But what kind of links would you make?
JEFF MASTERS: Yeah, we have to understand that climate change is affecting all weather patterns, regardless of the season. Yes, winter still occurs. But we do expect climate change to affect jet stream patterns in winter storms. Now, in particular, this kind of very unusual jet stream pattern that’s been so persistent is something that could arise out of climate change. We don’t often see the jet stream lock into place like this and not budge for a period of months. And we make that more likely—is one research avenue being explored now—if we remove a lot of sea ice in the Arctic, warming up the Arctic more than the rest of the planet. That can have impacts on the jet stream, causing it to slow down and to not move quite as quickly, and lock in place for these extended periods like we’ve seen.
AMY GOODMAN: Well, Jeff, we want to thank you for being with us, director of meteorology at Weather Underground. When we come back from break, we’re going to go to Vermont, another place that is going to see a lot of snow, to Middlebury, Vermont, to speak with Bill McKibben, director of 350.org, author of Oil and Honey. And then we head to North Carolina, which has seen the greatest coal ash spill, one of the largest in history.
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/meteorologist_jeff_masters_climate_change_affecting
VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: “This Should Not Come as a Surprise”: Bill McKibben on Global Extreme Weather from U.S. to Sochi
TRANSCRIPT:
(SONG PLAYS) AMY GOODMAN: “Do It Now: Sing for the Climate,” recorded in August of 2012 by Flemish musicians as part of the Big Ask campaign, a grassroots movement to get industrialized countries to reduce carbon emissions every year. This is Democracy Now!…
AMY GOODMAN: Joining us now is 350.org co-founder Bill McKibben. He’s joining us from his home in Middlebury, Vermont. His latest book is Oil and Honey: The Education of an Unlikely Activist . You can go to democracynow.org to read the first chapter…
Bill, start off by just talking about this extreme weather that both the East Coast is facing with this massive ice storm called Pax, yet the West Coast experiencing a drought like they haven’t seen in some 500 years.
BILL McKIBBEN: Yes, and, of course, the continental U.S. is only about one-and-a-half percent of the surface of the planet. Jeff Masters and his great colleague Christopher Burt at the Weather Underground have done a remarkable job of chronicling what’s going on all over the world. And what happens now is pretty much every day, someplace on this planet, we are breaking records that have stood for centuries, or in the case of California now, we think perhaps millennia…
The situation in the U.K. is really unbelievable…
This is the kind of crazy weather that scientists have said will mark the advent of climate change in its early stages. And it should be the warning that we need to actually do something, though so far our leaders haven’t taken up that challenge…
BILL McKIBBEN: None of this should come as a surprise if people have been paying attention. It’s exactly what climate scientists and climate campaigners have been saying now for the better part of two decades. I mean, I wrote the first book about this for a general audience literally 25 years ago. And these are exactly the sort of things scientists said would happen. They’re happening somewhat more quickly and on a somewhat larger scale, mostly because scientists are, by their nature, conservative and underpredict. But the fear of scientists is palpable. That’s why so many of them are out there getting arrested to stop things like the Keystone pipeline, speaking out in all the ways that they can think of…
If the scientists are correct—and so far they’ve been, as I say, underestimating—then before this century is out, that will be closer to seven or eight degrees Fahrenheit. And every computer model we have shows that the planet then just becomes the scene of ongoing emergency response effort. That’s what civilization will amount to…
BILL McKIBBEN: This is an existential problem for winter athletes. You know, I’ve been, for many years, the faculty adviser to the Nordic ski team here at Middlebury College. And, you know, there are young people that I watched come up who are skiing over there in Sochi. The reports are unbelievable…
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/this_should_not_come_as_a
much, much more at the link:
VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: Bill McKibben on Fight Against Keystone XL, Fossil Fuel Divestment and Obama’s Failures on Climate
Hundreds of college students are expected to risk arrest on March 2 outside the White House to pressure President Obama to reject the Keystone XL tar sands oil pipeline project…
McKibben describes how the effort to confront global warming is growing worldwide. “The one place where we’ve really been able to go on the offense is this divestment movement. It has now spread around the world. Oxford University published a study in October saying it was the fastest-growing such corporate campaign in history. Universities, colleges, churches, city and state governments, pension funds — all now starting with an exhilarating pace to cut their ties with fossil fuel industries. It is one place where there is some real hope.”…
McKIBBEN: For progressives, there’s one other not-so-small thing. There was a study last year showing that the Koch brothers might make as much as $100 billion in profit off this pipeline over its 40-year lifespan, $100 billion, even for the Koch brothers a lot of money. And one doesn’t have to guess very widely what some of that money—what political use it will be put to in this country…
CINDY SCHILD (a senior manager of the American Petroleum Institute’s refining and oil sands program): I mean, first of all, you know, we had the debate about whether it’s oil sands or tar sands, and quite simply, we’re producing oil and oil and gas products. We are not—there’s no tar being produced here, so that’s just a terminology depending what side of the fence you sit on…
BILL McKIBBEN: Well, I don’t know. Geologists always called it tar sands…
BILL McKIBBEN: Well, it’s a big challenge. 350.org is, I guess, the only group really that works only on the climate crisis around the world. And we work in pretty much every country except North Korea…
We can’t bankrupt Exxon, but we can begin to politically bankrupt them. And we have to. We can no longer solve this problem one light bulb at a time…
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/bill_mckibben_on_fight_against_keystone
Desperation tactics by dumb & despicable people.
Almost as big a shot in their own foot as that disgusting exploding heads video.
Remember, this was in Texas. The next time they try this, the object of their hatred might be telling the police and the District Attorney at the end of a long evening:
“Golly! A crowd of angry people in masks showed up on my front lawn. They were carrying burning torches and shouting threats, and one of their signs said that they intended to attack me. I told them to leave, but they wouldn’t go away. I thought they were going to burn me out, and I was in fear for my life!“
I like the guy in the far right, and towards the bottom of the photo: the one who’s holding the banner, his eyes turned menacingly towards the camera. What is he, a grim reaperette? The grim reaper’s child? The grim reaper’s child, not yet mature enough to hold a scythe, the use of which must be properly taught by daddy? What stage of grim reaper maturity is he in? Infancy (or is he just a touch too large for that)? Childhood? I know, he must be in the pubescent stage of grim reaperdom! Ah, how fascinating to watch the developmental stages of grim reaperness.
There are signs that environmentalists once in Government could become authoritarians. Religious cults like AGW have gone off the rails before why should this one be different. The potential is there for a really nasty disaster like Communism.
what are they doing burning torches? Dont they know that they are polluting the environment?
😛
I listened to a podcast once (New Scientist?) that featured Bill McKibben. It was not global warming related. After 20 minutes of listening to this guy I wondered, why is this blithering boring empty headed person being given attention?
This is how extremism grows. The more someone gets into the movement, the more they’ll be sent to read the extremist books at the back of the library. Meanwhile the mainstream movement keeps a respectable image, whilst subtly condoning extremism with abstract talk about urgency and direct action. Their texts are also worded to suggest that people won’t really get it unless they take up really deep ecology and really deep ethics. As the movement gains power, everyone starts feeling that they daren’t question global warming lest they bring a verbal or other kind of attack upon themselves. It is just power, the sort of thing groups have been trying for thousands of years.
Tony Lear (@Grimbeaconfire) says:
February 14, 2014 at 1:48 am
“There are signs that environmentalists once in Government could become authoritarians.”
Why “become”?
First German enviro movement, Der Wandervogel, was apolitical, so 70% of them joined the NSDAP because the Nazis were placing an emphasis on protection of the environment and indeed declared the first nature reserve in Europe.
Enviros never have a problem with authoritarianism / totalitarianism, as long as they can push through their goals.
There are 2 photos of these environmental ‘heros’ –
One photo in front of a $500K home. Where they are in the dark, whispering and giggling.
The other where they are boldly carrying torches and standing in front of a rusty chain linked fence. A chain linked fence which looks very out of place for a neighborhood of expensive homes.
They obviously did not even stand in front of the home long enough to push the doorbell and run. Their scary money shot was taken in a vacant lot behind the cemetery.
Solidarity means attack… er or at least dress-up. Cowards.
I have noted the closeness of the eco movement with extremist hate organizations in the past. Since the media is so complicit, they do not even get the advantage of a reflection to see when they look like a bunch of racist bigots or genocidal hate mongers.
@Patrick Guinness
Yes – Jeff Masters and Bill McKibben – two CAGW peas in a pod.
Let this also serve as a reminder to everyone. Please do NOT help to fund this kind of extremism by visiting Jeff Master’s weather site, WEATHER UNDERGROUND (the only weather site named after a radical domestic terrorist group of the 1970s). There are so many BETTER weather information sites out there (though you may wish to avoid weather.com for similar reasons).
Being the son of a high school principal, I learned to despise other people’s ignorant children.
Better idea:
When they show up at your house, this is what you say, “you are under citizens arrest, the charge, making a terrorist threat”.
They look violent, just in case, bring your gun. Oh, and the fire marshall, are those torches legal?
Someone stands outside your house with burning torches, they are clearly threatening you with burning down your house. Threatening is a criminal offense and they should have been arrested and charged. So what we are seeing is a failure of law enforcement.
The protestors themselves would have without doubt used fossil fuels to create the torches, and driven to the protest using fossil fuels. The hypocrisy of relying on the very thing they are protesting against.
What utter idiots they are all tools…like Jess said above “why are that covering their faces”…Oh I get it…..it’s cold….so no global warming then. Look at all the crap coming out of those torches, what are they using to burn them because the smoke is not white white as it would be if it was only wood burning.
Ferdberple has got it right.
Reminds me of the tactics used on abortion doctors. I believe one was eventually shot in his home.
In the UK people actually vote for this person
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26191047
Looks like Kim and Perry and Mary and Benjamin have outed themselves, and they have a limited number of signs.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarsandsblockade/12306841815/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tarsandsblockade/12306855615/
Reblogged this on contrary2belief and commented:
Voltaire said: “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
They should come to my house to protest. My dog loves left-wing hypocrites.
He thinks they taste like “chicken marinated in hemp and Doritos”!
DougByMany says:
February 14, 2014 at 3:33 am
There are 2 photos of these environmental ‘heros’
One photo in front of a $500K home. Where they are in the dark, whispering and giggling.
The other where they are boldly carrying torches and standing in front of a rusty chain linked fence. A chain linked fence which looks very out of place for a neighborhood of expensive homes.
Looks to me like a good catch you made there Doug. An enterprising reporter would go to the CEO’s house and see if that chain link fence and ratty yard that they’re standing in appears anywhere near his house.
Of course, your find, if borne out, would diminish their “threat” somewhat, but it also would significantly reduce their credibility, so perhaps a fair tradeoff.
Russ R.,
Feeding Eco-terrorists to your dog? You should be arrested…
for animal cruelty.
I hope everyone had time to check out the ‘Songs and Chants’ section of the tarsandsblockade website. If you haven’t have the pleasure, it’s like reading Grade 2 poetry, if Grade 2 children were by nature, ignorant and angry.
If you need a good laugh, here’s the link;
http://www.tarsandsblockade.org/songs-and-chants/
I think the local utilities need to find where these protesters live and turn the electricity off. That would help them live the way they think we should all live.
I like the guy in back right in cameo, wonder how big the SUV he drove there.
Re MattS:
It is more of a treat, than his normal diet. There is no nutritional value. Empty rhetoric equals empty calories. Plus they empty their bowels as soon as they see him. So he gets to chase them, while they waddle like penguins. The entertainment value, is part of the appeal.
Kerosene torches, what hypocrites.
They may wish to consult Texas Code before pulling this again…
A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
– See more at: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/2/9/D/9.42#sthash.pqflEOZg.dpuf
Has anybody reported this to the authorities in Houston? Houston PD? My understanding is that the victim does not have to file a complaint for terrorist threats, and the police can act based on evidence and probable cause – which there is here in spades.
Houston PD phone number: 713-308-3100
I am shocked at this. In NE Oregon back in the 20’s the KKK was rampant. . My family was mixed
race by the reason of my Granpa married a Native American (my Granma). and was not secret about it. Granpa saved a Catholic Priest from a beating by two KKK Klowns. Granpa whipped the hoods off of them-with his whip.My Pop was 1/2 Native of course and put up with racist crap all his life, I am not surprised that his tactic is used by .350.org. They are darn lucky that they weren’t shot.
Granma had a little “cure” for KKK tactics: a 12.ga double barrel. Yes she pulled it on some “Visitors” one day to the ranch. (along with 5 border collies.)
I was debating online recently about the lack of emperors clothes when it comes to actual evidence. In steps a 350.org supporter with a tired laundry list of links. This person insisted that the Maldives will be covered in water this century. When I pointed put that would require 10x the current rate of sea level rise, they changed and said they only meant the habitable regions. They then posted another long rant and urged fellow commenters to sign up. The thing that irks me, is that if these types of comments were for churches, amway or anything else, then they would be kicked out and their comment deleted on this particular forum. But apparently some religions are ore equal.
There’s no point with these people – they are fanatics and they will continue down this path until one of them does something stupid. This will be the point that the public finally says enough, but I fear a tragedy will occur first.
As a few people have pointed out above, these idiots put their lives in danger. I can promise you that if Mr. Maki had pulled out a shotgun and killed a few of them he’d have never seen the inside of a jail cell. When a group of people shows up on your lawn with torches and threatening signs in Texas, you don’t get prosecuted for shooting them.
Mr. McKibben should be ashamed for promoting such terrible – and ultimately DANGEROUS – behavior. What if his endorsement led to more groups trying the same ‘demonstration’ and getting hurt?
They would be welcome around my house, they can meet me, Smith and Wesson.
John Boles says: February 14, 2014 at 8:57 am
Kerosene torches, what hypocrites.
I’m sure they are hydrogen torches, so they don’t give off deadly CO2, just water which isn’t a GHG, um, oh well, never mind.
@JessicaJ –
McKibben and his friends should be looking at a good many years in prison for domestic terrorism.
Sustainability -Environmentalism- Green- Gaia whatever you call it… is being developed as the religion for the Revolution. It is the long planned marriage of Science and Religion with sustainability as the vehicle for Total Control
Here is a well researched read…
http://sovereignty.net/p/gov/ggpp.html
As reported at Yahoo and elsewhere, three days ago, “The White House will turn a heated tent on its frigid South Lawn into a Monet-inspired gala fit for a French president on Tuesday….” I’m sure that the Obama’s and their guests held those protesters close in their hearts as they munched on desserts of Hawaiian chocolate-malted ganache, fudge made from Vermont maple syrup, and puffs of cotton candy dusted with orange zest. Of course, the Obamas could have used a few torch bearers to heat up their gala! Oh, just kidding. Don’t worry. The president and his distinquished guests were so cozy that I suspect they forgot it was even winter outside!
David Ball says: @ February 13, 2014 at 7:32 pm
And it gets uglier as the desperation sets in.
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I am afraid you are correct. One only has to look at Earth First and the Earth Liberation Front and the damage they have cause. So far without ki!!ing anyone.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/the-threat-of-eco-terrorism
According to the FBI The most destructive practice is ar$on. “… members consistently use improvised !ncend!ary devices equipped with crude but effective timing mechanisms… cr!minal incidents often involve pre-activity surve!llance and well-planned operations. Members are believed to engage in significant intelligence gathering against potential targets, including the review of industry/trade publications, photographic/video surveillance of potential targets, and posting details about potential targets on the internet….attacks have totaled close to $40 million in damages.”
In other words the cops and/or FBI should have been called while someone else kept them talking.
The FBI DOES NOT ignore these threats.
Wow if came to my house and did that, the 00 buck shot will be whistling over there heads.
Stefan says: @ February 14, 2014 at 3:04 am
This is how extremism grows. The more someone gets into the movement, the more they’ll be sent to read the extremist books at the back of the library. Meanwhile the mainstream movement keeps a respectable image, whilst subtly condoning extremism with abstract talk about urgency and direct action….
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Yes the FBI report I linked to above says exactly that.
Nick D says: @ February 14, 2014 at 6:56 am
Darn you are correct!
Can someone? ANTHONY? Please archive those photos before they are disappeared? Then maybe forward them? (I am computer-challenged)
[Reply: Gail, just save the images. Here is one site that makes it easy. ~mod.]
brc says: @ February 14, 2014 at 10:14 am
…There’s no point with these people – they are fanatics and they will continue down this path until one of them does something stupid. This will be the point that the public finally says enough, but I fear a tragedy will occur first.
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You are a wee bit late:
Gail Combs,
You can just create a new folder, maybe in one of the many word processing apps. Put the folder on your desktop, or wherever. Then save the URL of the photo to the folder. You will have your pics available when you want them.
Of course, there are better and more permanent ways. That’s just a quick ‘n’ dirty way to save images until you find a better way to save them.
Desperation.
The need for martyrs.
Agitate, encourage foolish children, to engage in behaviour so odious that sane people might shoot them.
With the aid of the MSM presstitutes, these “innocent lambs, senselessly slaughtered”, would be world wide messaging.
The “adult’ voices from amongst the “protesters” must be investigated for conspiracy to commit terrorism.
Never mind that the current federal administration, openly lauds the Weather Underground Killers.
This is the reason why the second amendment allowed civilians to have military firearms.
This is also the reason why the definition of ‘military firearm’ includes fully automatic ones.
Frank K. says:
There are so many BETTER weather information sites out there (though you may wish to avoid weather.com for similar reasons).
Please share
I checked that page and the offending image is in place at the end of the story, with this new(?) explanation:
“After the home demo, a “candlelight” vigil was held for the MI-CATS 3 at an entirely different location. There were never any torches at Mark Maki’s house; this photo was part of Monday’s nationwide candlelight vigil marking the release of an inadequate FEIS for KXL North – with a twist, to emphasize the struggles of communities already facing tar sands.”
So, it was all okay, really, we didn’t scare the man, honest…
Interesting that they seem to have noticed that this was an issue both for the actual content and then that they had been pinged for silently removing it.
As Clint Eastwood once said (M1 in hand): “Get off my lawn!”
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Maybe pop it up to TheWayBackMachine? http://archive.org/web/web.php
The Wikipedia entry on the Kalamazoo oil spill gives some of the background to the poor performance of Enbridge. From here in the UK, it seems that the US government really goes for non US companies which cause environmental problems ( BP) but doesn’t appear to do much when the company is US owned.
I now see that Enbridge is Canadian.
The problem here is other monkeys will see and do. Even if this was staged elsewhere. Sadly, there will be escalation. These self-righteous do gooders are unable to think things through.
This was a dumb and desperate move.
They are trying to get out three people locked up under federal laws.
This should make it very clear to anyone who supported McKibben and the 350.org bunch, that they are on the wrong side of the debate. Resorting to illegal tactics shows they have already lost the argument. I know Uncle Sam tends not to tolerate terrorists, so I’m sure they will be pursued and dealt with accordingly.
I said ‘supported’ past tense deliberately, for any right thinking person would want to put a lot of distance between themselves and this lot of crazies.
Now it seems they are trying to play it down by saying it was a ”candlelight vigil.” I’ve seen such vigils. Usually there’s plenty of prayers and singing. Not too much of the balaclavas and banners urging the gentle folk to attack families in their homes. Think of the children.
Good to know McKibben was proud of them.
Here’s another Simon and Garfunkel reference for him to hum, From The Boxer,”
All lies and jests
Still a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest.”