UPDATE: first picture submitted at right from Matt Dempsey
The Winter of their Discontent: Keystone XL activists to protest global warming ahead of SOTU in freezing cold.
McKibben’s 350.org nutters say they will be protesting the KXL pipeline (but really global warming) today out by the capitol ahead of Obama’s SOTU speech. It will be interesting to see how many show up in the freezing cold. Anyone who has pics of these folks in cold weather gear protesting should provide links in comments.
A few reality points to consider:
· Keystone XL activists are outside fighting global warming on the coldest state of the union in history.
· Today’s forecast from the Capital Weather Gang: “Bitter cold today, slight snow chance tonight”: “Today will be another super-cold day (15-20 degrees below normal even before factoring in a brutal wind chill) as a frigid air mass continues its glide across the Midwest, South, and East.”
· Americans are not concerned about global warming: In a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll 91 percent said creating jobs should be a top priority while only 27 percent said that addressing global warming should be a top priority. A Pew Research Center poll found that 29 percent want global warming to be a top priority. Ben Geman has the full story here.
· So it’s not surprising that they’ve had pretty sparse attendance – and ironically extremely cold temperatures – at their previous protests. For pictures and details of their poorly attended protests, click here.
· After the New York Mag and several news outlets called out activists for making a “huge environmental mistake” focusing all their efforts on Keystone XL, The New York Times published an article which twists the focus from defeat to arguing that the Keystone XL fight “lifts” the environmental movement: “Although some critics say the environmental movement has made a strategic error by focusing so much energy on the pipeline, no one disputes that the issue has helped a new breed of environmental organizations build a mostly young army eager to donate money and time.”
· Keystone XL activists began their protest at the Folger Shakespeare Library – coincidentally it’s opening night for Richard III. “Now is the winter of our discontent!”
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In many ways you have to admire their commitment.
Not their rationality, obviously, but they do have passion.
I hope that keeps them warm.
Keystone XL Pipeline protesters are actually saying to Canada – “Sell your oil to China.” I cannot see anything in doing that which meets their agenda. They do not appear to be capable of logical thought.
Is it time to rename the Gore Effect to Obama Effect?
Well, global warming is a top priority in Canada, you know eh? We want more global warming because never again do we want to experience another winter from hell like this current one of 2013-14.
The XL protestors are tools of super wealthy railroad owners. Pipelines are the most efficient and environmentally friendly way to transport liquids and gasses. Opposition to pipelines actually harms the environment. But as we see with windmills, environmentalists want monuments to their power, not a healthy environment.
Canadian oil will get to market. Mining it is safe. The CO2 released from using the oil as transportation fuel will not destroy the planet, the climate or the environment. Perhaps some of the protestors are actually sincere. Certainly those backing them are not.
Has anyone else other then me noticed that the photos illustrating Obama in MSM articles are becoming less flattering. So are the photos of his wife.
Keystone cops to police SOTU address.
stan stendera says: “Has anyone else other then me noticed that the photos illustrating Obama in MSM articles are becoming less flattering. So are the photos of his wife.!”
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, my [friend].
Sooooo, is the big fan in the picture to blow up the big plastic thing, or part of a large heater assembly? Frankly, either way, they should be banned from using electricity to prove their point!
That 29% could believe that “global warming” should be a top priority of government is scary.
Ian W said: “Keystone XL Pipeline protesters are actually saying to Canada – “Sell your oil to China.”
I keep waiting on the big announcement that Canada will partner with China and just bypass the US…the terrain is a formidable obstacle but given the quantity involved it could be a huge game changer for both countries…meanwhile, we can complain about no jobs, no industry and worry that the world might warm…
nutso fasst said: “That 29% could believe that “global warming” should be a top priority of government is scary.”
Yea, but we are 38th in science so its understandable…still scary but understandable…
Just change the name of the pipeline project to the Climate Change XL. Name changes seem to work well for the media manager specialists out there.
I saw 19 people in the photograph. I’ll be interested to see if there are more people in the actual protest. Don’t worry. It will make the news.
100,000s of people attended a pro-life March last week in Washington and I don’t doubt that none of you heard of that.
The pipeline is more or less approved in Canada. Certain Native groups are acting as fronts to the USA based “Tides Foundation” burning police cars assaulting people in either an anti pipeline or anti fracking protest. They are the same people who were involved in the 1% protests a year ago.
The natives think that they can parle the XL into more money so they don’t mind being the face of the protest in Canada.
check this out…
http://ezralevant.com/2014/01/first-nations-chief-received-5.html
Burning police cars….care of our [friendly] earth loving Natives.
M Courtney : “In many ways you have to admire their commitment.”
And therefore the extreme commitment of the Hitler Youth is also to be admired?
The road to hell is paved by those who exhibited strong commitment.
Strong commitment often means a closed mind and illogical thinking. As this example illustrates
Tom Steyer’s NextGen Climate Group is based in San Francisco.
Does anybody know if this group has links to Tides Foundation?
Who We Are
http://nextgenclimate.org/about/
Back in high school (early 80s) our course reading material leaned towards the apocalyptic: “The Fate of the Earth”, “Entropy”, etc. Reagan was portrayed as a cowboy, the USSR simply misunderstood, etc. You get the picture.
We had a debate, and I was “forced” to be on the “pro” side of the insanely stupid “we shouldn’t get rid of our nukes” argument. Another student and I were joined by our local MP (i.e., congressman) who was ancient, white and narrow-minded.
The other side was represented by two students and, well, a hippy. He spent the better part of prep time creating a large cardboard dot (representing all the nukes in the word), and pasting a quarter in the middle (representing the small amount that is actually needed to kill us all).
Two things I learned: the ancient, white and narrow-minded guy made sense, and wasn’t actually narrow-minded. And if you are going to use a prop in a debate, make sure it doesn’t fall over in the middle of your argument, so that a wise-ass (i.e., me) can’t say: “your argument has collapsed faster than your prop”, and get an ovation, winning the debate.
You can’t even parody that inane NYT article, as it was quite typical of leftist thinking. Their point was that “It’s not important to accomplish any actual environmental goals anymore, all we need to do is make our sympathizers feel good about themselves.”
In other words, the modern environmental movement has become little more than mood-boosting drug for the bored and easily led.
At least the president won’t be sweating. We could photoshop a blau ship behind the protesters.
In their petroleum based foul weather gear no doubt transported to the “event” (probably?) in petroleum using vehicles and staying in locations heated by petroleum products. Can you DOOFI? (plural for doofus?)
” Americans are not concerned about global warming: In a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll 91 percent said creating jobs should be a top priority while only 27 percent said that addressing global warming should be a top priority.”
If I may introduce the Pearse Paradox:
If there ever was a mathematical formula for how far destructive, soci_alist movements and causes can go, it is contained in the above quote. These zealous,anti-civilization, anti-productive sector movements only fluorish when the economy is flush because they need a lot of cash. And where does a lot of cash come from, even for governments to throw out by the shovelful. Bonus marks for the answer. It is an inescapable parasitic relationship. But it is a forgone conclusion that any level of success begins to kill off their life-giving host. Impoverishing the host results in losing its cash and numbers support.
This relationship is rock solid and is the E=mc^2 of why all such movements have to fail, or at least reinvent themselves in preparation for better times. The Soviet Union the most successful of this ideology lasted 70 years, only because it held the reins of state and commanded huge bureaucracies, armies, secret police and the like. Yet, ultimately the command economy had to collapse. Never-say-diers now point to the wonder that is China, not realizing this is an evolution into private enterprise. It too will be gone as the productive sector grows under individualists. Seeing the Soviet Union collapse immediately put the Chinese leadership into this position. Western industrial investment in China was a Trojan Horse, still to work its final magic.
I believe we could plot curves, develop ratios and indices that would allow us to forecast the demise of a given movement. We are gathering data even now for developing skill in predicting this. Is there an unemployment rate, a level of declining government revenues, and perhaps other developments that form the “tipping point”. I subconsciously made such a forecast when I advised a young geology grad not to go into the environmental side of earth science, that it was full and good for only one generation – he would soon be out of a job.
All them protesters look pretty warm in their winter clothing made from hydrocarbons. All them knapsacks made from Nylon, which comes from Benzene. Then there’s the fake pipeline on the ground made from hydrocarbons.
“In many ways you have to admire their commitment.
Not their rationality, obviously, but they do have passion.”
So, I can’t help thinking, do terrorists. I’m reminded of Yeat’s brilliant poem, “The Second Coming”
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity”
Hmmmm … sometimes life imitates art. They’re “Saving Gaia.” >snark<
What is that tarp doing on that brick sidewalk in the photo? It’s definitely been there for a while. Notice how the bricks are lightly snow covered either side of the tarp but underneath, where the tarp had been, they’re bone dry. Was that tarp put there so that our precious, humble, altruistic, meagerly compensated, and so very public serving legislators (or Policymakers if you will) don’t so much as have to dip their dainty pinkies into one solitary flake of snow on the way to any legislative session, or perhaps the POTUS’s [pen, pencil (and IRS audit)] SOTU address?
Just askin’
Any thoughts about the purpose of the black tarp on the sidewalk? At first, I thought it was designed to be a shelter of sorts, but it doesn’t appear to be wide enough. Maybe it’s a sign?
Several people in the photograph have made poor choices in cold weather clothing. I hope they erect a tent heated by a large Kerosene heater.
I suspect that “tarp” is actually plastic, and will be inflated, to simulate the pipeline. I have seen similar, albeit inflated, in other 350 protests.
Black tarp to protect the grass.
“In many ways you have to admire their commitment.
Not their rationality, obviously, but they do have passion.”
So, I can’t help thinking, do terrorists. I’m reminded of Yeat’s brilliant poem, “The Second Coming”
“The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity””
I think a much more appropriate comparison, in many ways, would be to Jehovah’s Witnesses. There’s always been a significant segment of the population which hungers for a passionate emotional catharsis, divorced from any connection with reality or even rationality.
That’s 118% so far. What’s the top priority for the rest? Which is, uhm, like minus 18%?
I suppose votes of negative people should be subtracted on polls from those given to a candidate by ordinary ones or something. Makes ballots cumbersome.
Yeah, when you enlarge the photo, you can see the fan they will use to inflate the tube.
nutso fasst says: @ January 28, 2014 at 8:42 am
That 29% could believe that “global warming” should be a top priority of government is scary.
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Actually it is not.
March 28, 2013 58% Favor Building the Keystone XL Oil Pipeline
July 21, 2013 38% Think Government Is Best Bet for Alternative Energy Development
September 03, 2013 Economy, Health Care Are Still Most Important Voting Issues
“Seventy-five percent (75%) of Likely U.S. Voters consider the economy Very Important in terms of how they will vote in the next congressional election…”
Seems like you have 29% hardcore extremist/econuts/brainwashed.
US total population: 308,745,538 (2010) link
20 to 24 years 21,585,999
25 to 29 years 21,101,849
The brain washed of voting age who are under the age of 30 is 42,687,848 = 14%
You then have to add in your academics and bureaucrats and the odd overaged hippy. (24,155,500) gives you another 8% for a total of ~ 22% link
So 29% hard core is not unreasonable. Lets hope there are a lot like Dr Moore who wise-up over time. (And yes I know I am making assumptions)
plotted demographics: link
I can’t offer a photo because I’m about 2,400 miles to the WNW. Best I can do is this:
In case you wonder whether or not this cold in DC is “unprecedented” there is a NOAA page to be looked at and saved before dear leader makes it disappear:
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/winter/DC-Winters.htm
Funny thing is, some of these storms are named!
I’ll just list the first few dates but there are names and descriptions.
1772, 1779, 1857, 1863, 1880, 1888, 1899 (more in the 1900s)
The February 1899 Great Arctic Outbreak doesn’t rhyme with “now” (name?) but there is a resonance.
Stay warm.
Thanks for the dope Les!
Err …. To quote Shakespeare more fully: “Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York, and all the clouds that lour’d upon our house in the deep bosom of the ocean buried”. Rather apt – just like the missing heat 🙂
Statist media can make Obama president, but they can’t control the weather (let alone climate).
“… eager to donate money and time.”
Doesn’t matter whether the movement is based on reality, only that it generates money.
@Tom J
@Rob Ricket
I think the “tarp” is actually a large plastic sleeve. I’m guessing they intend to inflate it with the fan to be their “evil pipeline” prop.
“Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour’d upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.”
Shakespeare knew.
Woops! My bad. See what happens when you don’t refresh before you post.
Maybe they mean well, but the original saying is “the road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Gary Pearse; wise words.
We have two major political parties in the UK, Conservative and Labour. Without exception, whenever Labour have been in power it has been a disaster for our economy. Why? Because they are more interested in redistributing wealth than creating it, therefore the economy suffers and then of course so do the people, so we get a Conservative government. After a few years of prosperity, the population become complacent and with a misguided sense of benevolence vote for Labour and the problems return.
The one thing you can rely on with socialists and communists is that they make the same mistakes over and over again, which is why they are not fit to govern!
Gary Pearse says: @ January 28, 2014 at 9:16 am
If I may introduce the Pearse Paradox:
If there ever was a mathematical formula…
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As far as I can tell you have four types of people.
Producers
Predators
Parasites
Defenders (hopefully)
When the Predators and Parasites gain control your civilization will collapse.
The name of the game is for the Producers and Defenders to short circuit that cycle. Unfortunately the Predators seem to be intent on collapsing our civilization and have plenty of money to bribe the Parasites.
The Predators are intent on coming up with a system of bondage that keeps the Producers productive and docile. Communism did not work so they let the USSR collapse. This is their currently favored model.
They may have to build some snowmen to help hold that thing up.
Plenty of photographs here, if you have the stomach for it. It would seem that the inflatable pipeline has already made a tour.
http://350.org/
They must be freezing their bums off. It is 15.9 °F (-9 °C) at 1:00 PM. They are lucky because it is not windy. (5.0 mph) It is supposed to get cloudy and colder in the afternoon… maybe.
If they stand around for long they are going to really feel the cold.
Forget sporting events, I’m willing to pay-per-view for a chance to watch them shiver in a live webcam event.
Instead of a safe pipeline, we get oil carried in unsafe railroad cars. One major beneficiary of this policy is key Obama supporter Warren Buffett, whose railroads carry the oil to refineries.
This part of the NyMag Keystone article is golden:
A quote from the 360 Twitter feed:
“Get up, get down. Keep #fossilfuels in the ground!”
LOL- these people are clueless! tweeted while wearing nylon clothing and holding a 200 foot plastic bag.
Anyone asked Warren Buffet ?
It’s rarely about the issues with environmental groups these days but about obtaining new useful idiots to do the grunt work, for free and cash cows to give their management solid pay and benefits plus luxury travel to the exotic summit locations of the world. Every other for-the-benefit-of-the-bosses organisation would be hauled out and flogged by the left, but these are their very own.
Here are over 50 quotes from scientists about global warming leads to warmer winters, less winter snow and earlier springs [CLICK].
Then they changed their minds. Maybe THIS is why.
So if the president uses the snow as a sign of global warming he also must admit that the climate scientists are very prone to embarrassing error and should no longer be listened to.
The only thing that could keep Canada from selling their tar sands oil is if it were not economically viable to do so, due to low oil prices. Of course, enviro advocated policies do exactly the opposite: they do everything they can to raise oil prices. Then they advocate to make the selling of such oil as carbon intensive as possible (by shipping it via rail or boat to China). It must be hard to for their heads to not explode while holding together the patchwork of their belief system, with all its’ logical inconsistencies. Silly enviros!
And in that they are lucky. Just south of DC, they are expecting a foot of snow tonight.
Seeing those idiots freeze is warming up my day. Gawd, if DC could only get down to -50F with strong 30-40 mph wind gusts, then all would be peachy.
@”In many ways you have to admire their commitment.”
Yes, they have very good *intentions*. Just not much common sense.
As PJ O’Rourke once wrote:
“Good intentions is just stupidity gone to college.”
Steve,
In BC, we already have a pipeline to the coast, the Kinder Morgan. It’s been operating more or less completely safely for the last 50 years or so. One mishap I’m aware of a few years ago when a backhoe dug into it and flooded a few blocks with oil. There may be others. Nobody died unlike in Lac Megantic, Quebec. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lac-M%C3%A9gantic_derailment They are looking at doubling the capacity. I believe most of the oil is shipped to California for refining. The proposed Enbridge pipeline has finished its Environmental review and needs to meet some additional conditions. 200 plus of them. Some minor. Some not so minor. There is a high probability oil will be flowing to China within the next 5 – 10 years. Put on top of that China’s state owned oil company just bought out a private company which is operating in the oil sands. I’d bet on a pipeline to the coast. We’re losing an estimated $25 billion a year in royalties because it is landlocked and the only customer is the USA. (limited customer means it is pushed down the demand curve and about a 25% discount on price).
Cheers
andrewmharding:
re your rewriting of history at January 28, 2014 at 9:58 am.
The reality is that the Tories stay in power until their economic incompetence induces a Three Day Week, or a Black Thursday, or etc. when the electorate votes in Labour to put the economy right. But people like the ‘handouts’ with which Tories buy votes (hence, e.g., we have a social housing crisis) so the Tories get back in when Labour has straightened the economy.
Fortunately, Labour were in when the Banking Crisis hit or the country would have collapsed.
Richard
I think I found another picture of the protesters 😉
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/global_warming_protesters.jpg
“Now is the winter of our discontent” You are so cool — super cool!!!!!!!!!.
A minor poet whose name I forget once said “Ice burns” — but I am quite sure those protesters will quickly “chill out”. They are after all “warm weather soldiers” of the left — though now It seems the rallying cry of climate change is — WARMING! WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ WARMING! (watch Blazing Saddles).
Actually that would be rather cool if someone joined their ranks carrying a sign that said — WARMING! WE DON’T NEED NO STINKIN’ WARMING!
Eugene WR Gallun
Um, that’s A top priority, Berenyi. There can be several. Doesn’t have to add to 100%. Duh.
The truth is that the world might be warming to Cold Fusion. LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). This could be a game changer as I see it. If the environmentalist want us to stop using fossil fuels, then they should start getting behind Cold Fusion. Cold Fusion was introduced back in 1989 by two scientist and was dubbed the Fleishman-Pons experiment. It didn’t really go anywhere at the time and the two scientists where ridiculed and lost their careers.
However recently there has be a resurgence of interest in the scientific world with some major universities like MIT’s Dr. Peter Hagelstein. And Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat, claims to have a 1 Million Watt Cold Fusion Reactor Running in Italy.
Who really knows what the future holds, it could be that all this controversy about Global Warming, Climate Change could be laid to rest in a few years if this turns out to be true about Cold Fusion. For the most part, I say that the folk that participate on WUWT are way smarter than I am, and I consider myself to be an old dumb guy that happens to own a smartphone.
I rarely comment on WUWT, but I read almost daily and have to thank those who take the time to do so. I have been enlighten, Thank you Anthony and thanks to all the guest writers and the folk that comment.
Gail Combs says:
January 28, 2014 at 9:59 am
Have you ever noticed that the proponents of Global Governance always see themselves as governing not as the governed?
Actually while much has to be noted this helps the railroad owners and investors a peculiar OTHER group is being left out here. For every berry of oil sent down that pipe then a corresponding barrel of oil from Russia and the Middle East is NOT going to be sold or purchased.
In other words it is NOT STRANGE that SO MUCH EFFORT is being spent on this silly and stupid ONE pipeline since the alternative is for North America to become much more self-sufficient and NOT have to purchase blood oil form the middle east.
A real toxic mix of characters doesn’t want this pipeline:
Railcar/railroad companies
US Military – they constantly spew out propaganda about how global warming will cause huge problems in the world – the result is to justify their trillions of funding to keep the military machine going and the resulting “NEED” to police the middle east and other spots where our energy comes from. It is RATHER clear that the US military benefits from LESS energy security and energy independence is the last thing the US military wants – no need to keep the oil lines open for the US economy. In a way it is sad that the US military has sold out much like Al Gore and the result will simple be less respect for the military just like we now have much less respect for the science community. At one time lawyers used to have respect also!
Russia – the masters of propaganda have used the greens for YEARS to prevent oil development in North America while at the SAME time purchasing huge oil rights even in the Gulf of Mexico.
Middle East: With franking and new pipelines, there may come a time when we don’t need them – this would MUCH change our political winds or even the “need” to be friendly to many Middle East nations.
So Russia, middle east, US Military and then the long list of puppets like Greenpeace ALL DO NOT WANT ONE stupid little pipeline?
The REAL question is WHY SUCH HUGE opposition to one silly little pipeline? That is the real question and the above answers are only a start.
The opposition to this pipeline is WAY OUT of proportion.
However, when above issues are taken into account? This pipeline is much the industrial hockey stick that MANY players simply do not want and stand to lose huge if it stopped.
Has anyone tried pointing out the fact the tar sands project is the largest environmental cleanup job in history? All that oil damaging what would otherwise be a pristine environment……and these trouser stains object?
A gas pipeline ruptured in manitoba few days ago while the province was gripped by a -30C cold blast… And curiously we did not read in the Globe & Mail the usual hate literature against fossil fuels by the likes of Thomas Homer-Dixon, Director of CIGI a Balsillie/Rockefeller/Soros funded propaganda center… Obviously McKibben ain’t as shroud.
Gail Combs says:
January 28, 2014 at 9:59 am
I made up an overlay of his 9 steps and would use it in speeches/presentations I did. I usually ended with the question of “Where are we now?”
@hunter
“But as we see with windmills, environmentalists want monuments to their power…”
Beautifully put. It applies equally well to most other venues of activism.
Les Johnson
January 28, 2014 at 9:32 am
D.J. Hawkins
January 28, 2014 at 9:47 am
Thanks. Oh, do I feel stupid now. One question I have: Why don’t our hardy protesters use a windmill to inflate that faux pipeline? Better yet, why don’t they use foot operated bellows?
Ah, the more passionate our enviros feel that they have a right to dictate to others how they shall live, the more they place themselves on the precipice of hypocrisy.
Richard Day says: @ January 28, 2014 at 10:53 am
Seeing those idiots freeze is warming up my day. Gawd, if DC could only get down to -50F with strong 30-40 mph wind gusts, then all would be peachy.
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I was praying for it but I would be happy if the wind would just gust up to 20 mph. Now it is 17 °F with 3 mph. Given the average is temp for today is 36 °F and the average high is 44 °F It is still darn cold!
Time to call all the Congress critters tomorrow and ask them pointy little questions….
What is your stand on Global Warming?
What is your stand on Global Governance?
What is your stand on selling US Technology to China?
What is your stand on China’s growing aggression?
What is your stand on China’s antibiotic resistant bacteria in sewage sludge spread on fields? link
What is your stand on China’s processing chicken for the USA?
You can add more to the list I am sure.
Ian W says: @ January 28, 2014 at 11:35 am
Global Governance = Neo-feudalism
mkelly says: @ January 28, 2014 at 11:49 am
…I made up an overlay of his [Alexander Tytler Cycle] 9 steps…
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I would say step 8….
Tom J says: @ January 28, 2014 at 12:21 pm
…One question I have: Why don’t our hardy protesters use a windmill to inflate that faux pipeline? Better yet, why don’t they use foot operated bellows?…
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Because they are to darn lazy.
Actually that means they will stand there and freeze instead of exercising and staying warm.. Hope they get a good case of frostbite to follow them through the rest of their lives.
What is your stand on China’s antibiotic resistant bacteria in sewage sludge spread on fields? link
Darn the link did not work
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131216142807.htm
stan stendera says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:37 am
Has anyone else other then me noticed that the photos illustrating Obama in MSM articles are becoming less flattering. So are the photos of his wife.
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when were they ever flattering??? 😉
A few well-placed industrial fans would serve to lower the wind chill numbers on those streets and intersections.
Does anyone know the latest on this? Ric Werme?
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So Global Warming can cause frostbite. Who knew?
rogerknights says:
January 28, 2014 at 1:34 pm
John McC;intock says:
January 28, 2014 at 11:33 am “If the environmentalist want us to stop”
That’s it folks! It is stop –period. There are too many of you on this ol’spinning Earth and they want you to get off. The part that follows the word stop is simply to make you feel guilty and willingly agree. Otherwise, they have other ideas.
http://www.keywiki.org/index.php/John_Holdren#Eugenicist_Sentiments
[Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President]
Resourceguy says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:49 am
Just change the name of the pipeline project to the Climate Change XL. Name changes seem to work well for the media manager specialists out there.
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Well said Resourceguy! I hope people (and others) pay strict attention to name changes. We have.
rogerknights says:
January 28, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Rossi has teamed up with a partner that was unidentified, but was believed to
be Cherokee Investment Partners, and a few days ago Industrial Heat in Research Triangle Park, which is part of CIP, announced they had acquired the rights to the E-Cat.
Not as big a manufacturer as I hoped, but they appear to be focusing on commerialzing the “hot cat” and Rossi is working ahead on newer R&D. Everyone seems to be a happy family at the moment. It makes the possibility of “scam of the century” a lot lower.
There is a multi-month test going that should end in March, and a report by the team that did weeks-long test will be out after that.
Ever since the formation of the partnership, there’s been a lot less information coming out, that may change now that the partner has gone public.
The best way to keep up is to check http://www.e-catworld.com/ every few weeks.
It will be an interesting year for E-Cat news.
I wonder how much of the Tides Foundation donations come from Chinese sources.
Obama donor Buffett makes billions off rail transport of crude oil. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-02/berkshire-profit-advances-46-on-railroad-buffett-s-derivatives.html
I would like to see a poll that asks:
1. Should we build the Keystone XL pipeline?
2. Should we build the Trans Alaska pipeline?
3. Should we build the Eastern Gulf Access pipeline?
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#3 is a pipeline people have never heard of. It is a nat Gas pipeline being converted to oil and will supplement the Keystone and Keystone XL.
#2 is just a test of how many people will know it was built 35 years ago. It is in danger of being lost this decade to below minimum flow conditions of less than 350,000 bbls of oil per day.
All I can say is, let McKibben and his various orifices pay for low-income people’s gasoline after he succeeds with one of the stupidest exercise in memory.
Stephen Rasey says:
January 28, 2014 at 4:31 pm
I would like to see a poll that asks:
1. Should we build the Keystone XL pipeline?…
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Here are your polls:
Jan 23, 2012 56% Favor Building Keystone Pipeline, Think It’s Good for Economy
March 28, 2013 58% Favor Building the Keystone XL Oil Pipeline
October 01, 2013 57% Support Building Keystone Pipeline
Monday, January 06, 2014: 56% See Keystone XL Pipeline As Good for the Economy
Pretty consistent numbers.
The Alaska Pipeline pbs on line poll: 49% yes drill, 31% no
Oh, and since the Womann-named-Sue has a role in this too, let her also pay – she can pick up low-income people’s “sky high” electric bills.
The long-term weather forecast for North America completely sucks.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014012818/gfs_T2ma_namer.html
Thanks Ric. It’s been a long strange trip.
Steve says:
January 28, 2014 at 8:46 am
Ian W said: “Keystone XL Pipeline protesters are actually saying to Canada – “Sell your oil to China.”
I keep waiting on the big announcement that Canada will partner with China and just bypass the US…the terrain is a formidable obstacle but given the quantity involved it could be a huge game changer for both countries…meanwhile, we can complain about no jobs, no industry and worry that the world might warm…
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Hey Steve – you have heard of Kinder Morgan with oil pipeline to Vancouver? KMP is currently partnering to build a 1 billion dollar rail car tanker loading facility in Edmonton, Alberta. As opposition to pipelines build more oil is going by rail in all directions. Of course there is also the Northern Gateway Pipeline to the west coast from Alberta. Then there is the Natural gas pipelines from Alberta and BC that will be going to LNG terminals in Terrace or Prince Rupert in the near future in a possible partnership with China. I wonder how those folks in Minnesota that spent a couple of days without natural gas feel when there was an explosion at a valve station on the Trans Canada pipeline knocking out service to parts of Manitoba and Minnesota? The problem is that many people don’t know where their energy comes from and they don’t understand the law of supply and demand. If Canadian gas/oil doesn’t get across the US border, US gas and oil makes more money. But then Canada looks overseas. Oil is now running east and west by rail (as well as south) and there will be more and more going east and west given the current issues with the US market since Canadian companies can get more money selling to international markets than to a locked in supplier in the US with all the attendant political problems. Not that there aren’t political and environmental issues going east west, but eas/west is inevitable since no one wants only one fickle buyer for their products. Not meaning to be harsh but every four years, it is a crap shoot.
They should have a burn barrel that they could all stand around and warm themselves, while they talk about the bad co2.
Fortunately the Northern Gateway pipeline in Canada has been approved which will allow crude oil from Canada’s oil sands to be sold at world prices to international markets. This will happen despite the frantic attempts of those who fund the astroturf protest groups in BC. The US had a chance to become less dependent on unstable sources of oil, but it looks like the Chicoms will have guaranteed access to oil whereas the US will not.
Up here we view the oil sands project as cleaning up the worlds largest oil spill. Perhaps, when the American population has regained its sanity, we can discuss shipping Alberta crude to southern markets.
Similar moonbat mentalities exist in BC which is the only province in BC that has a carbon tax. This tax goes up every year and, should global cooling become a reality, it will become such a significant source of tax revenue that it will never be repealed. Fortunately, for many people that live in the interior of BC, there’s so much pine beetle killed wood available that they heat their houses all winter with free fuel.
Youth and stupidity make for an army of zealous warming activists now, what happens when they are middle aged and realize they have been deceived? WUWT!:]
re: “the Pearse Paradox”
The book you want is “The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements” by Eric Hoffer. First published in 1951, Hoffer describes the economic thresholds at which dissent can afford to be expressed. His work received renewed attention after 9-11 and remains the defining text on the subject, in my opinion.