Greenpeace disappears a founder, much like 'The Commissar Vanishes' in Soviet Russia

I seem to recall someone telling me at least 5 years ago, in a comment somewhere, that Roger Moore had nothing to do with the founding of Greenpeace. So they’ve been working at this for quite some time.

Memory holes are to the 2010s as bomb shelters were to the 1950s.

@Otter: I am quite certain that Roger Moore had nothing to with the founding of Greenpeace.

arthur4563 says:
“I’m sure that one of Greenpeace’s original ironclad principles was that there should be diversity of opinion, etc.”
It is in their Open Information Policy, if you can believe it (pdf) http://www.greenpeace.org/international/Global/international/briefings/other/Open%20Information%20Policy%20Approved%20SGC%20Board%20250912.pdf

Well they disappeared me.
“We do not want to see you back here, “vietnam vets like you are not welcome” , your ideas are just wrong about John Kerry. If you know what is good for you do not come around talking like you do.
Nice bunch of commie thugs in fact.

He started the group
Then said “Mission Accomplished”
He then disappears

@Akatsukami ~ Oooops……!
But… are you sure one is not acting like he’s the other?

It’s refreshing to hear an environmentalist admit that many environmental problems have been solved.

Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?

They should rename themselves.. Watermelons,… green on the outside, red on the inside!

If Greenpeace can’t be honest about their history, what statements of theirs can anyone trust. None.

It’s amazing. Even Russia has no use for these Greenpeace pinkos. This was the organization that they arrested for “piracy” a couple of months back when they protested Russian oil drilling in the Arctic.
It’s no surprise that Greenpeace is disappearing Roger Moore. That tactic is at least 100 years old. They have no respect for the truth unless it serves their ends.

@ richardscourtney
Up-twinkles for Trotsky references.

I have been a fan of Dr. Patrick Moore for over a decade, since he defended certain uses of chlorine in products/production, at the same time condemning Greenpeace against their stance against all chlorine uses. He has always reasonable proposals for making a better environment, without killing the economical and human benefits.
Another name not to be forgotten is Ben Metcalfe, first chairman of the Greenpeace Foundation in 1970, which also seems to be erased from the recent lists of Greenpeace founders. Probably because he accused Greenpeace of getting far away of the principles of the founding group in a film made by the Icelandic producer Gudmundsson “Survival in the High North”, saying literally: “I created a monster”.
The main bad spirit in the whole case seemed to be David Mc Taggart, who turned the mainly idealistic organisation of that time into a multi-million dollar industry centrally dictated by one man, even after his retirement, until his death in 2001.
To restore the balance between what Greenpeace (and Wiki) says about the role of Mc Taggart in Greenpeace, have a look at the article from Toronto Free Press:
http://www.torontofreepress.com/2001/0001a3.htm

lurker, passing through laughing says:
January 25, 2014 at 12:12 pm
Yet another example of how the slippery slope from idealistic advocate to obseesive totalitarian can occur.
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A view I most definitely subscribe to.
History tells us that the most vicious revolutions of the past and present such as the “ism’s of the 20th and 21st century such as communism, nazism, fascism, islamism, japanese imperialism and now environmentalism and all the other so called revolutions throughout history have all, almost without exception, either started with the good intentions of removing or wiping out a percieved and serious wrong against the community or society and thereby improve the citizens lives and freedoms and etc.
A worthy aim which nearly all such so called revolutions bar the French and American revolutions in modern history have eventually failed to do.
Instead they have morphed into a dictatorial fascist type revolution where gullible, easily swayed people, particularly the young are used, “used” being the operative word, by cynical morality free manipulators to impose yet another dictatorship even more savage than the original it replaced.
The Greenpeace leadership is arguably one of the most notorious of such manipulators of the young and the manipulators of propaganda out of all the quasi political operators in our world of today.
They are now being shown to be adept at altering, changing and modifying the records of past history to further their own agenda, something which they have obviously gone to considerable lengths to try and hide.
In trying to alter history and eliminate any references to matters that reflect unfavorably on the organisation and particularly on it’s trending towards a dictatorial status, Greenpeace is doing nothing more and nothing less than going down the same vicious humanity destroying road that innumerable dictators from the world’s nastiest and most pitiless dictatorships of the centuries past have also followed.
Greenpeace with the forcing of the cessation of the manufacture of DDT for malaria control in the 1970’s, a situation it is still attempting to enforce,today, it’s legal maneuverings, it’s intensive propaganda against and the destruction of experimental rice crops to try and stop the release of the live saving, vitamin A creating Golden Rice because it is supposedly a GMO has led to a consequent large surge in malaria cases and large consequent increase in avoidable deaths from both malaria and Vitamin A deficiencies mostly in small kids across rice eating Asia inm total with the death toll from preventable malaria has now cost some estimated 60 or 70 million avoidable deaths over the last 45 years.
And that places Greenpeace, the WWF and other radical green organisations amongst the greatest destroyers of human life in history and on a par with Mao Zedong and his Chinese communist revolution and his Great Leap Forward and on a par with the combined death tolls of Hitler, Stalin and the Japanese imperial empire.
And Greenpeace has done all of this without even getting supreme power, something it strove for and which it intended to achieve at Copenhagen in 2009 when it’s leadership was quoted as saying they intended to have a seat at the table when the body to regulate all global economies, energy systems and the emissions was created at Copenhagen.
That intended body would have had effective control over the world’s energy sources and therefore over the entire global economy and the consequent control of most of the global population.
That was and still is a morality and ethics free, humanity and freedom destroying Greenpeace’s ultimate goal.

Robin says: @ January 25, 2014 at 11:41 am
mucking up what they want their donors to believe–it’s not just donors Anthony and the key word is in fact believe. Everything going on in education globally now (I have UNESCO’s blueprint and planned curricula and end beliefs and desired mindsets so I am not exaggerating) in K-12 plus higher ed plus law schools and business management schools (UN has founded PRME-Principles for Responsible Management Education) are all guided by altering beliefs to influence perception.
Reality can supposedly now be ignored unless it is politically compelling in desired ways because the theory goes if you can change beliefs and values you can alter the future reality. And that’s as concise a definition of what dialectical materialism really means as we are likely to find. GreenPeace is a huge part of gaining these transformative mindsets and skeptical founders are barriers to creating a uniformity in what is believed.
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That bears repeating because this is what we are dealing with. People who deny a reality separate from their beliefs exists. They think they own a pair of magic ruby slippers or something.
I kid you not I had to take a philosophy short course from one of these people at a management school. Professor Chris(tmas) Turkey is an outstanding example of this belief system and it almost got people killed.
This is a more formal explanation:

The Philosophy Of Karl Marx
The Hegelian Basis
….According to this philosophy, “the only immutable thing is the abstraction of movement.” The one universal phenomenon is change, and the only universal form of this phenomenon is its complete abstraction. Thus, Hegel accepted as real only that which existed in the mind. Objective phenomena and events were of no consequence; only the conceptions of them possessed by human minds were real. Ideas, not objects, were the stuff of which the universe was made. The universe and all events therein existed and took place only in the mind, and any change was a change in ideas. Therefore, to account for these changes in ideas was to account for change in the universe….
In the Hegelian philosophy no idea could exist without an opposite. Thus, the idea of light could not exist unless there were an idea of darkness, nor truth without falsity, nor high without low. If an idea were labeled a thesis, its opposite would be its antithesis. Consequently, in this realm of the mind within which the universe had its only real existence, innumerable theses and antitheses existed. Struggle or conflict was the en-evitable fact in such a universe—conflict of the thesis with its antithesis. In this struggle thesis and antithesis acted and reacted on each other, and a new phenomenon—synthesis—was created. All action or change occurring in the universe was, under the Hegelian philosophy, the product of thesis, antithesis, and resulting synthesis—all in the realm of ideas, since objective reality could exist only in that sphere. Since this process was universal and never ending, it offered a complete explanation of the causal processes creating all phenomena within the universe…..

This is why there is so much emphasis on a ‘Consensus’ in climate science. This is why the IPCC mandate states:

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was established by the United Nations Environmental Programme (UNEP) and the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) in 1988 to assess the scientific, technical and socio-economic information relevant for the understanding of human induced climate change, its potential impacts and options for mitigation and adaptation.
http://www.ipcc-wg2.gov/

The agreement that humans caused climate change was already part of the ‘Consensus’ This is the ‘synthesis’ and Den1ers are just not getting with the program and moving on to the next phase, the designing of a new economy. We are still stuck in the ‘struggle of thesis and antithesis’ to their way of thinking.
Remember John Dewey Father of Progressive Education? “Dewey’s philosophy had evolved from Hegelian idealism…” In 1896 Dewey created his famous experimental Laboratory School designed to show how education could be changed to produce little socialists and collectivists instead of little capitalists and individualists. It was expected that these little socialists, when they became voting adults, would dutifully change the American economic system into a socialist one.
It has been over one hundred years since Dewey experimented on children and changed our education system. We are all supposed to be brain washed and willing to accept ‘Global Governance’ but it is not working out that way.
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order….But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all of our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence.” – David Rockefeller, speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994.
Pascal Lamy former World Trade Organization Director-General repeats the idea HERE
Why interdependence? “Economic Interdependence and War: A Theory of Trade Expectations,” International Security, Vol. 20, no.4 (Spring 1996)
These people are really really scary in their hard headed belief that they control reality as Turney just demonstrated.

So this makes me wonder which of the USA “Founders” would be disappeared if current members of our – – — – – could figure out how to accomplish such a thing. It does seem much easier to just ignore the principles and the Constitution they established.

It is another example of how anything is now justified, in furtherance of ‘the cause.’
It really is getting quite disturbing now. We know that as reality moves against them they are getting even more strident in their defence and attacks on critics of their beliefs. (and beliefs it only is at this stage they have very little scientific PROOF that they are correct).
How far will it go? We know that when money and control (power) is concerned most anything will be done in furtherance of it.
They are currently in the power position and already have called for censorship and criminalisation of opposing opinions.
It will only get worse in my opinion if reality continues to move against them.
Alan

Hia Gail
I feel it appropriate, given your Hegelian comment above, to provide this link by the Great Richard Feynman…..

Gail Combs says:
January 25, 2014 at 4:24 pm

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Gail Combs,
In total agreement.
I add info on who were the philosophical precursors that Hegel needed to justify his philosophy. It [was] Kant on whose shoulders he stood. And it was Plato whose shoulders Kant stood on.
I addition Kant / Hegel led to the positivist movement in late 19th / early 20th century philosophy. And now what is called post modern philosophy stands on the positivist movements shoulders.
There is a legendary alternative to that succession of philosophies (that included Hegel). The alternate is a tradition that has an observed reality basis for epistemology and metaphysics; we all know who has been in that alternate tradition . . . . : )
John

My late mother had a simple old german saying which was meant in a family wealth sense but which I have found quite applicable to wide variety of organisations that I have come across in my 75 years;
It was;
“Clogs to clogs in three generations”.
The first generation creates and establishes.
The second generation knowing the ethos and aims and having lived in the founder’s shadow builds on that foundation.
The third generation now two generations and far removed from the founder’s ethos just looks at the accumulated wealth and influence and says, it’s all mine, and then promptly and figuratively pxxses the lot up against the wall.
Stalinist communism took 90 years, a bit more than three generations to completely disintegrate but it was only political and bureaucratic inertia that kept it going over the last couple of decades.
Of interest it appears that North Korea may also be going down the same path with the installation of the third generation and the real time elimination of the remnants of the second generation.
And that is the same path that Greenpeace and the other badly misnamed “environmental” watermelon organisations are now going down as they lose their very reason for being.