IPCC needs to channel a little Jonathan Edwards. We are held over the fiery pit because of our sins.
Eliza
September 27, 2013 4:30 am
Prof Miles Allen Gratham institute is a blatant liar “icecaps are melting” Please check your data.
Cryosphere today a pro global warming site or DMI ice extent
Your title should be withdrawn and the institute sued
BBC interview
Bill_W
September 27, 2013 4:35 am
“Whatever you do, don’t mention The Pause.”
“If you mention The Pause we shall say ‘Ni’.”
I believe it is “Neep”
The norm throughout history is for the holders of political power to also control the economy. For their own benefit. IPCC wants this gravy train to continue and politicians and bureaucrats all over the globe want to continue fostering the belief that government direction is necessary to stave off climate disaster.
That’s why you get sociologists like Anthony Giddens saying in the 90s that even if there is no warming, this is the statist-oriented restructuring we would want anyway. Much of the global economic stagnancy is really due to being past the tipping point where the parasites are wrecking what is productive in order to manitain or increase political power.
Pacchauri and Gore make excellent models of this entire interventionist phenomenon. So do many research universities today.
Kurt in Switzerland
September 27, 2013 4:44 am
Please, do one on the ill-posed question!
Kurt in Switzerland
Man Bearpig
September 27, 2013 5:01 am
Could it be the Mannopause ?
Brian Johnson UK
September 27, 2013 5:13 am
There was an idiot UK climate guru? called Peter Stott who told the BBC that melting Poles, rising sea levels, warming seas were ‘proof’ that mankind was the culprit!!!!!
Doh!!
Using this cartoon for my desktop background. Love it.
Steve
September 27, 2013 6:54 am
Funny it might be but it has been repeated ad nauseum today and we all know what happens if lies are repeated often enough – Governments and the general public believe it.
I just want them to stop.
Resourceguy
September 27, 2013 6:56 am
And now comes the wave of fat retirements after the great hurrah.
Resourceguy
September 27, 2013 7:03 am
It would be instructive to compile the names of contributors and staff to the IPCC AR5 for use by the future Truth and Reconciliation Courts to judge them.
Bryan A
September 27, 2013 7:05 am
Robin says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:36 am
re: Much of the global economic stagnancy is really due to being past the tipping point where the parasites are wrecking what is productive in order to manitain or increase political power.
Have you seen the 2 part movie (on netflix) Atlas Shrugged?
Bryan A
September 27, 2013 7:06 am
Man Bearpig says:
September 27, 2013 at 5:01 am
Could it be the Mannopause ?
Either that or MentalPause
rogerknights
September 27, 2013 7:07 am
Too bad Patchy wasn’t wearing the black cap that used to be worn when UK judges handed down a death sentence–it would underline his being a “hanging judge.”
David S
September 27, 2013 7:23 am
There is no indication that the warmists will back off one bit. Obama plans to continue with rules to reduce CO2. Reality is of no importance. 2+2 = 5 and if you don’t agree you will be tortured until you do. “1984” just came 30 years late.
Robert W Turner
September 27, 2013 8:11 am
We are no longer the panel who says ni, we are now the panel that says ekki-ekki-ekki-ptang-zoom-boing!
Joe
September 27, 2013 10:48 am
Steve says:
September 27, 2013 at 6:54 am
Funny it might be but it has been repeated ad nauseum today and we all know what happens if lies are repeated often enough – Governments and the general public believe it.
I just want them to stop.
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Having heard some of that ad nauseum BBC coverage today I’m afraid the only way it’ll stop is if Mother Nature is kind enough to throw us a few really cold decades.
When (more) people are freezing to death in supposedly civilised countries because they can’t afford the fuel thanks to “green” subsidies and taxes it won’t matter how much the politicians tell them that they’re needed to stop the warming.
What’s really worrying is that the ones most likely to renounce warming first are the very far right, because they have little political capital to lose anyway. And freezing people might just vote for a fascist if they’re promising affordable heat in the winter.
I’d rather have my scepticism proved wrong than have that happen because I don’t want anyone to be without needed heat, but I don’t get a say in the matter – only nature will decide who’s right in the end.
Brian H
September 27, 2013 11:06 am
Bill_W says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:35 am
“Whatever you do, don’t mention The Pause.”
“If you mention The Pause we shall say ‘Ni’.”
I believe it is “Neep”
No, it’s “Nie”, German for “Never”.
tadchem
September 27, 2013 11:31 am
It takes a pretty good spinmeister to rephrase ‘cooling’ as ‘less than anticipated’ warming.
Bob Diaz
September 27, 2013 11:53 am
The IPCC tries to “hide the pause”, but Josh always finds the funny side.
Thanks !!!
DonV
September 27, 2013 1:20 pm
Maybe if we appease them with a shrubbery . . . a nice one that doesn’t cost too much . . .
Naaa. . . They’ll just think up some other silly nonsense . . .
DonV says:
September 27, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Maybe if we appease them with a shrubbery . . . a nice one that doesn’t cost too much . . .
Naaa. . . They’ll just think up some other silly nonsense . . .
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A nice rockery, perhaps?
Michael Reed
September 27, 2013 4:03 pm
I’m really tired of hearing this false claim that fascists are (or were) far right wing. Fascists were socialists. For example, Nazi is short for (in translation) the National Socialist German Workers Party. Nothing right wing about those guys. The myth started in the 1930s, during the Spanish Civil War, when Communists supported one side while the Fascists supported the other. The Communist-backed side lost. The Communists considered the Nazis right wing only because EVERYBODY was to the right of them. Since most journalists in the West were and still are Communist sympathizers, the myth stuck of how the evil right wingers defeated the pure and holy left.
rogerknights
September 27, 2013 7:18 pm
Here’s my idea for the next Patchy cartoon:
Left panel: Patchy in a red-and-black Satan suit, point a pitchfork forward, and pointing a a fiery pit in the background, and saying, “Things will get HOT for you . . . Unless . . .
Right panel: A box with a slot in the top marked “Pay your indulgences here.”
JCR
September 27, 2013 7:29 pm
tadchem says:
“It takes a pretty good spinmeister to rephrase ‘cooling’ as ‘less than anticipated’ warming.”
It’s a bit like “ocean acidification”. The ocean just may be becoming a little less basic, but that is not equivalent to saying it is becoming more acidic.
James Bull
September 27, 2013 9:20 pm
Sorry Josh I read it as “Credibility clown” only when taking a second look did I see what you had written.
Either way it sums it up.
James Bull
Joe
September 28, 2013 3:15 am
Michael Reed says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I’m really tired of hearing this false claim that fascists are (or were) far right wing. Fascists were socialists.
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No they weren’t. The fact that someone calls themselves “socialist” doesn’t mean that they are.
In fact, fascism is extremely difficult to place on a “left-right” scale because it borrows from across the political spectrum. Fully managed economy (far left socialist) sits alongside a doctrine of absolute ruling elites (very far right – it may happen in communist states, but it’s not part of the doctrine). There are also many “brands” of facism in which the exact mix of doctrine varies.
However, social conservatism and extreme nationalism are central tenets of all styles and, combined with the fact that it’s generally regarded as extreme right in common useage, if we insist on pidgeon-holing it into a spectrum that it doesn’t really fit, the far right is an appropriate place.
In fact, fascism is extremely difficult to place on a “left-right” scale because it borrows from across the political spectrum.
The two dimensional “World’s Smallest Political Quiz” is good for this. http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php
Cleverly positioned to put fascists on the bottom. Okay, cleverly positioned to put libertarians on the top. And liberals on the left, and conservatives on the right.
Joe
September 28, 2013 11:19 am
Well, that can’t be right!
It puts me one square away from far- left liberal, just “above” the libertarian / statist line. Yet here I am as a fully fledged AGW sceptic, when the models say I should be eating locally grown organic tofu, picketting power plants, and cycling everywhere.
So much for pidgeon holes, eh? 🙂
Michael Reed [September 27, 2013 at 4:03 pm] says:
I’m really tired of hearing this false claim that fascists are (or were) far right wing. Fascists were socialists. For example, Nazi is short for (in translation) the National Socialist German Workers Party. Nothing right wing about those guys. The myth started in the 1930s, during the Spanish Civil War, when Communists supported one side while the Fascists supported the other. The Communist-backed side lost. The Communists considered the Nazis right wing only because EVERYBODY was to the right of them. Since most journalists in the West were and still are Communist sympathizers, the myth stuck of how the evil right wingers defeated the pure and holy left.
Whatever you do, don’t mention The Pause.
pause? looks like a reducion to me.
If you mention The Pause we shall say ‘Ni’.
Great cartoon. Listening to the news report on the BBC, the impression I got was; who are they trying to convince, us or themselves?
Pathetic!
IPCC needs to channel a little Jonathan Edwards. We are held over the fiery pit because of our sins.
Prof Miles Allen Gratham institute is a blatant liar “icecaps are melting” Please check your data.
Cryosphere today a pro global warming site or DMI ice extent
Your title should be withdrawn and the institute sued
BBC interview
“Whatever you do, don’t mention The Pause.”
“If you mention The Pause we shall say ‘Ni’.”
I believe it is “Neep”
The norm throughout history is for the holders of political power to also control the economy. For their own benefit. IPCC wants this gravy train to continue and politicians and bureaucrats all over the globe want to continue fostering the belief that government direction is necessary to stave off climate disaster.
That’s why you get sociologists like Anthony Giddens saying in the 90s that even if there is no warming, this is the statist-oriented restructuring we would want anyway. Much of the global economic stagnancy is really due to being past the tipping point where the parasites are wrecking what is productive in order to manitain or increase political power.
Pacchauri and Gore make excellent models of this entire interventionist phenomenon. So do many research universities today.
Please, do one on the ill-posed question!
Kurt in Switzerland
Could it be the Mannopause ?
There was an idiot UK climate guru? called Peter Stott who told the BBC that melting Poles, rising sea levels, warming seas were ‘proof’ that mankind was the culprit!!!!!
Doh!!
Government is the problem, NOT the solution!
tagerbaek says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:20 am
Ah yes, the knights who say “ni”:
It reminds me of Pachuri.
Using this cartoon for my desktop background. Love it.
Funny it might be but it has been repeated ad nauseum today and we all know what happens if lies are repeated often enough – Governments and the general public believe it.
I just want them to stop.
And now comes the wave of fat retirements after the great hurrah.
It would be instructive to compile the names of contributors and staff to the IPCC AR5 for use by the future Truth and Reconciliation Courts to judge them.
Robin says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:36 am
re: Much of the global economic stagnancy is really due to being past the tipping point where the parasites are wrecking what is productive in order to manitain or increase political power.
Have you seen the 2 part movie (on netflix) Atlas Shrugged?
Man Bearpig says:
September 27, 2013 at 5:01 am
Could it be the Mannopause ?
Either that or MentalPause
Too bad Patchy wasn’t wearing the black cap that used to be worn when UK judges handed down a death sentence–it would underline his being a “hanging judge.”
There is no indication that the warmists will back off one bit. Obama plans to continue with rules to reduce CO2. Reality is of no importance. 2+2 = 5 and if you don’t agree you will be tortured until you do. “1984” just came 30 years late.
We are no longer the panel who says ni, we are now the panel that says ekki-ekki-ekki-ptang-zoom-boing!
Steve says:
September 27, 2013 at 6:54 am
Funny it might be but it has been repeated ad nauseum today and we all know what happens if lies are repeated often enough – Governments and the general public believe it.
I just want them to stop.
———————————————————————————————————————-
Having heard some of that ad nauseum BBC coverage today I’m afraid the only way it’ll stop is if Mother Nature is kind enough to throw us a few really cold decades.
When (more) people are freezing to death in supposedly civilised countries because they can’t afford the fuel thanks to “green” subsidies and taxes it won’t matter how much the politicians tell them that they’re needed to stop the warming.
What’s really worrying is that the ones most likely to renounce warming first are the very far right, because they have little political capital to lose anyway. And freezing people might just vote for a fascist if they’re promising affordable heat in the winter.
I’d rather have my scepticism proved wrong than have that happen because I don’t want anyone to be without needed heat, but I don’t get a say in the matter – only nature will decide who’s right in the end.
No, it’s “Nie”, German for “Never”.
It takes a pretty good spinmeister to rephrase ‘cooling’ as ‘less than anticipated’ warming.
The IPCC tries to “hide the pause”, but Josh always finds the funny side.
Thanks !!!
Maybe if we appease them with a shrubbery . . . a nice one that doesn’t cost too much . . .
Naaa. . . They’ll just think up some other silly nonsense . . .
By suggestion for a new cartoon by Josh is from the current news item at ABC and AP that a bulk cargo ship has navigated the Northwest Passage—-carrying a load of coal!!
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ship-crosses-northwest-passage-20400330
DonV says:
September 27, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Maybe if we appease them with a shrubbery . . . a nice one that doesn’t cost too much . . .
Naaa. . . They’ll just think up some other silly nonsense . . .
———————————————————————————————————-
A nice rockery, perhaps?
I’m really tired of hearing this false claim that fascists are (or were) far right wing. Fascists were socialists. For example, Nazi is short for (in translation) the National Socialist German Workers Party. Nothing right wing about those guys. The myth started in the 1930s, during the Spanish Civil War, when Communists supported one side while the Fascists supported the other. The Communist-backed side lost. The Communists considered the Nazis right wing only because EVERYBODY was to the right of them. Since most journalists in the West were and still are Communist sympathizers, the myth stuck of how the evil right wingers defeated the pure and holy left.
Here’s my idea for the next Patchy cartoon:
Left panel: Patchy in a red-and-black Satan suit, point a pitchfork forward, and pointing a a fiery pit in the background, and saying, “Things will get HOT for you . . . Unless . . .
Right panel: A box with a slot in the top marked “Pay your indulgences here.”
tadchem says:
“It takes a pretty good spinmeister to rephrase ‘cooling’ as ‘less than anticipated’ warming.”
It’s a bit like “ocean acidification”. The ocean just may be becoming a little less basic, but that is not equivalent to saying it is becoming more acidic.
Sorry Josh I read it as “Credibility clown” only when taking a second look did I see what you had written.
Either way it sums it up.
James Bull
Michael Reed says:
September 27, 2013 at 4:03 pm
I’m really tired of hearing this false claim that fascists are (or were) far right wing. Fascists were socialists.
—————————————————————————————————————————
No they weren’t. The fact that someone calls themselves “socialist” doesn’t mean that they are.
In fact, fascism is extremely difficult to place on a “left-right” scale because it borrows from across the political spectrum. Fully managed economy (far left socialist) sits alongside a doctrine of absolute ruling elites (very far right – it may happen in communist states, but it’s not part of the doctrine). There are also many “brands” of facism in which the exact mix of doctrine varies.
However, social conservatism and extreme nationalism are central tenets of all styles and, combined with the fact that it’s generally regarded as extreme right in common useage, if we insist on pidgeon-holing it into a spectrum that it doesn’t really fit, the far right is an appropriate place.
Joe says:
September 28, 2013 at 3:15 am
The two dimensional “World’s Smallest Political Quiz” is good for this.
http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/quiz.php
Cleverly positioned to put fascists on the bottom. Okay, cleverly positioned to put libertarians on the top. And liberals on the left, and conservatives on the right.
Well, that can’t be right!
It puts me one square away from far- left liberal, just “above” the libertarian / statist line. Yet here I am as a fully fledged AGW sceptic, when the models say I should be eating locally grown organic tofu, picketting power plants, and cycling everywhere.
So much for pidgeon holes, eh? 🙂
Truer words were never spoken, thanks Michael.