Fun and games on Twitter from the Grantham Institute’s Bob Ward:
That was at 12:41 AM – 24 Jul 13. Good thing that just over five hours later he recognized this is the wrong thing to do because it causes you to lose the intellectual argument:
Since “clueless” is apparently an insult, I’ll simply ask this: does Bob Ward have any self-cognizance of what he writes?
h/t to Tom Nelson
In case you missed it, here is what has Bob Ward in a tizzy. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100227804/97-per-cent-of-climate-activists-in-the-pay-of-big-oil-shock/
Rule #1
Do Not Get In A Word Fight With Delingpole
“Since “clueless” is apparently an insult, I’ll simply ask this: does Bob Ward have any self-cognizance of what he writes?”
Bob Ward is an attack dog with no skills whatsoever but his loud mouth; paid by billioniaire fund manager Jeremy Grantham, who publicly pretends to be the biggest Malthusian and Peak Oiler ever. Grantham’s opinion pieces get republished from time to time at zerohedge and resonate with the peak-everythingers amongst their commenters.
What Grantham has to gain from this Malthusian propaganda I don’t know; I have not researched how he is invested.
Wait, so let me see if I have this correct.
1) We know from climate-gate 1.0 that Big Oil specifically funds places that employ people like Phil Jonas and his motley online security crew.
2) Big Al sold his political network to Big Oily Middle Eastern Gas. Cashing out enough for his family to live on the beach coast line for generations to come.
3) We also now know that the O&G sector employ’s people like Dana, who is clearly anything but skeptical!
Yet these three same oily check cashing individuals are at the front of the line of warmest pointing at everyone else and accusing them of being in the Pay of Big Oil. I am starting to wonder how many other Professors in the CO2 studies, have been funded by Big Oil in indirect ways.
I love it that his handle on twitter is @ret_ard (somehow I never seem to see that ‘w’).
Macro Contrarian (@JackHBarnes) says:
July 24, 2013 at 1:52 pm
“Yet these three same oily check cashing individuals are at the front of the line of warmest pointing at everyone else and accusing them of being in the Pay of Big Oil. I am starting to wonder how many other Professors in the CO2 studies, have been funded by Big Oil in indirect ways.”
Welcome to the maze of green funding. Green pressure groups are everyone’s favorite shocktroops, from the EU commission over the progressive foundations (Rockefeller e.g., funding McKibben), to the gas industry (funded the Sierra Club to attack coal miners).
Here’s for instance the EU collaborating with the WWF (funded by the EU) to enforce “sustainable diets” for the EU slaves…
http://notrickszone.com/2013/07/11/the-eus-fast-approaching-food-tyranny-eu-undertakes-to-dictate-human-food-diets/
I would love to know what percentage of the 97% were in fact funded directly or indirectly by HydroCarbon Credits. It would be interesting to audit the funding of a Standard Oil company, looking for where they have donated funds for climate based research, and what NGO’s get their funding to send their paid demonstrators to the great Carbon Confabs held around the world. If you removed the paid shills from the Warmers for CO2 trading, how much of the 97% would be left standing?
I always surmised that the reason that Jeremy Grantham funds all of this green nonsense and desperate shills like Bob Ward was because Grantham is a financial speculator who uses large amounts of derivatives to leverage his bets.
And what do financial speculators most want from the financial markets? Volatility. Lots of volatility.
So what better way to encourage volatility in financial markets than an apocalyptic scare that causes investors, companies and governments to misdirect funds to mitigate risks of unlikely events and away from sound investment and ecomonic growth?
It’s a win-win for Grantham – he gets favourable press from environmentally concerned wealthy white people while at the same time having lots of scare stories to cause lots of fear and greed in the financial markets. And make another fortune. Every day
Well, last year, Grantham was talking up “investing in things in the ground.”
http://judithcurry.com/2012/02/25/energy-policy-discussion-thread/#comment-176897
Of course, as you can see from the responses from other peak-oilers and catastrophists, pointing this out can cause some to go…well,,,bat-sh*t crazy.
Grantham’s top 20 investment holdings as reported in GMO’s Form 13F for June 30:
GRANTHAM MAYO VAN OTTERLOO & CO
COMPANY / TICKER / CURRENCY / SHARES / MARKET VALUE / % WT
JOHNSON & JOHNSON JNJ US USD 23,958,058 $86.63 2,075,486,565 5.46
GOOGLE INC-CL A GOOG US USD 2,152,413 $887.88 1,911,084,454 5.02
MICROSOFT CORP MSFT US USD 55,476,194 $34.36 1,906,162,026 5.01
COCA-COLA CO/THE KO US USD 41,073,912 $40.46 1,661,850,480 4.37
PFIZER INC PFE US USD 55,724,978 $27.78 1,548,039,889 4.07
CISCO SYSTEMS INC CSCO US USD 62,486,663 $24.34 1,520,612,944 4.00
ORACLE CORP ORCL US USD 47,057,601 $30.11 1,416,904,366 3.72
PROCTER & GAMBLE CO/THE PG US USD 16,259,487 $78.02 1,268,565,176 3.33
PHILIP MORRIS INTERNATIONAL PM US USD 14,060,363 $87.53 1,230,703,573 3.23
CHEVRON CORP CVX US USD 9,734,286 $119.08 1,159,158,777 3.05
PEPSICO INC PEP US USD 13,813,579 $82.04 1,133,266,021 2.98
HEWLETT-PACKARD CO HPQ US USD 44,137,588 $24.93 1,100,350,069 2.89
WAL-MART STORES INC WMT US USD 14,408,975 $74.59 1,074,765,445 2.82
EXPRESS SCRIPTS HOLDING CO ESRX US USD 16,956,612 $61.92 1,049,953,415 2.76
INTL BUSINESS MACHINES CORP IBM US USD 5,447,767 $191.28 1,042,048,872 2.74
COLGATE-PALMOLIVE CO CL US USD 14,037,182 $57.95 813,454,697 2.14
MCDONALD’S CORP MCD US USD 7,894,596 $99.82 788,038,573 2.07
TARGET CORP TGT US USD 9,883,988 $69.33 685,256,888 1.80
APPLE INC AAPL US USD 1,621,078 $409.22 663,377,539 1.74
EXXON MOBIL CORP XOM US USD 5,633,137 $90.30 508,672,271 1.34
Macro Contrarian (@JackHBarnes) says:
July 24, 2013 at 2:26 pm
“and what NGO’s get their funding to send their paid demonstrators to the great Carbon Confabs held around the world.”
Green NGO’s with the exception of Greenpeace get their donations topped up by the EU commission. For 3 Euros they collect they get 7 Euros in EU money.
http://www.climate-resistance.org/2011/06/fun-finding-the-eco-lobbys-funding.html
(Therefore the 10,000 screaming greenshirts at COP15 in Copenhagen)
Russ R. says:
July 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm
“Grantham’s top 20 investment holdings as reported in GMO’s Form 13F for June 30:”
VERY nice! Quite the contrast to his bleeding heart green opinion pieces…
Jeremy Grantham cannot possibly believe what he professes. Wind power? Really?
President Obama’s appointees have never charged one single windmill operator for killing any of the millions of birds and bats illegally destroyed by their windmills. They all get a free pass.
But cover a few birds in oil, and the entire weight of the federal government comes crashing down. There is no comparison with the number of birds killed by wind farms. Oil — which everyone needs, and which everyone uses every day — is demonized.
But really, who needs windmills? Anyone? Certainly not wildlife.
Ward’s somebody to be envious of, what about living a life where you’re the flawless infallible hero paid to travel the world looking cool with the doctorate students and free to spout indignation during office hours.
Coke and Pepsi. Hedge those bets.
Phillip Morris.
Big oil. Big tobacco. Big tooth decay. Big Mac.
Hold the fries.
John W. Garrett says:
July 24, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Rule #1
Do Not Get In A Word Fight With Delingpole
Rule #2
READ @JamesDelingpole
in the http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/ or Ricochet or his Twitter feed or wherever you can find his posts. Climate science and politics, with added SNARK.
Bob Ward, lost any and all “intellectual argument”, many years ago.
Indeed, I am absolutely sure now that, the feeble premise of man made global warming has been ably defenestrated – good old Bob is only left with threadbare and nonsensical computer predictions, hollow conjecture. Desperate and finally, he has to resort to regurgitation of ad hominem pillory.
Polarized glasses, lead to a man seeing only one type of light, the problem is – they think that the Universe fits their narrow field vector.
Life, the Universe – It ain’t like that Bob.
Admittedly, my comments need some work at the best of times.
I just don’t “get” tweets, and I’m not sure I want to.
“…that batshit crazy blogger…”
And this is the centrepiece of his “intellectual argument”. Even the metaphor or whatever it is juvenile scat.
Damn! My monthly check is late again. Will somebody please call Big Oil and remind them?
@Gary Young Pearse
It must be the first and last time that I will defend Ward but:
‘Bat shit crazy’ is a term often applied to Delingpole, supposedly a remark from a colleague at the Telegraph some years back. Hence the use of quotes.
There are no signs that Delingpole views it as anything other than a compliment. He collects such remarks and wears them as a badge of pride. Here, for example, is his own tweet publicising an interview
‘Evil bastard James Delingpole talks more denialist rubbish’
Do not judge robust British discourse by mamby-pamby American standards. We are much happier to ‘take the piss’ out of others – and ourselves – than you are.
I see (for once) nothing reprehensible in Ward’s behaviour.
My #1 preferred blog is WUWT. My #2 preferred blog is Delingpole.
I especially like many of the comments at Delingpole that make almost everything here seem tame by comparison.
They take their climate very seriously.
Big Oil funds their own enemies? It’s a conspiracy, I tell you. It’s like the banks paying hackers to try to intrude into their computer systems to check the security. Big Oil may think they can control their supposed adversaries by the money knob and have a group which attracts the real bad ones and delutes… Conspiracy… inverse double agents…
😉
If you produce oil and gas and succeed in stopping others to do the same the value of your oil and gas will increase?
Bob Ward? It it looks like a ****, it is a ****. End of.
As a fellow Limey, I should note that Delingpole is a long established English character type, from a long tradition of vicious satirists. It is very hard, I know, for some Americans to “get” him, witness Michael Mann, who was utterly taken in by a column of JD’s which was in effect an extended metaphor. The concept of “metaphorical” was way beyond our very own self-appointed Nobel Laureate.
I just love that ‘bat shit crazy’ blogger James Delingpole. He introduced me to WUWT.
I continue to be amazed that Bob ‘fast fingers’ Ward gets paid to be an snake oil salesmen and BS spinner, given he is so very bad at it . Still it’s the very rich Grahams money and his free to waste it how he likes , well it does provide some mild entertainment ., so carry on Bob.
Grantham is definitely a smart guy : he makes good money investing in Exxon and Chevron and pays Bob Ward for ridiculous PR to make warmists and big oil critics appear like perfect a..holes. He scuttles the anti-carbon movements to preserve his big oil revenue streams while appealing to warmist suckers with green façades like Bob Ward. Really smart.
Rabe says:
July 25, 2013 at 12:17 am
“Big Oil funds their own enemies? It’s a conspiracy, I tell you.”
You haven’t paid attention. An energy sector hires the Green shocktroops to fight ANOTHER energy sector. Gas fights coal, Oil fights coal, Gas fights Oil; according to the relative carbon content of their product.
Add in the solar, wind and nuclear sectors and there’s plenty of dough for the Green shocktroops to earn.
I nominate Bob Ward for two major Annual Climate Clown awards .
Firstly the, ‘Carbon Face Palm.’
Secondly the, ‘Methane Own Goal.’
Speaking of which, did anybody notice that TOD (The Oil Drum) ‘passed’, and not with a bang but with a whimper?
Yup. The site TOD decided to close …
“As Fracking Rises, Peak Oil Theory Slowly Dies”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2013/07/16/as-fracking-rises-peak-oil-theory-slowly-dies/
On July 3, the administrators of The Oil Drum, a blog/discussion forum site dedicated to and frequented by those who advocate for “Peak Oil” theory, announced the site would close at the end of July, marking an end to an eight-year existence.
During that period of time, “Peak Oil” theory has basically gone the way of the California Condor, from widespread existence and acceptance in the oil and gas environment to near extinction as its environment has dramatically shifted thanks to the discovery of and ability to access massive oil shale reservoirs not just in the United States, but all over the world.
Probably not news to the astute on these matters …
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“loose the intellectual argument” Not the scientific argument then????????
You’re really better off not. Just ignore it, and
FaceNarcissistBook.