FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: 10/29/12
WUWT-TV to debut on November 14th to counter Al Gore’s “Dirty Weather Telethon” on November 14th and 15th starting at 8PM EST (5PM PST)
Al Gore is forming another 24 hour media event on November 14th, focusing on “dirty weather”, which you can read about here. It is yet another example of what has been called “Tabloid Climatology”.
Gore’s program is another transparent attempt to link climate and weather, and to make people fearful of common weather events that we’ve seen all throughout history. WUWT hosted a 24 hour event last year, thanks to the talents of our contributing cartoonist, Josh. You can review that here.
Last year during his “24 Hours of Climate Reality”, Mr. Gore created a video called “Climate 101” in which he purported to show a laboratory experiment showing the warming effects of CO2. Unfortunately it was discovered that Mr. Gore fabricated the experimental results using video post production techniques. You can read about it and see the evidence here:
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Due to Mr. Gore broadcasting fabricated and impossible science experiments, and then failing to correct the video even when glaringly obvious falsifications were pointed out, and partly due to WUWT’s founder Anthony Watts recent interview (and backlash) on PBS Newshour, a donor has stepped forward and offered to equip WUWT for professional Live TV over the Internet and has purchased a complete web enabled TV studio setup for use this year, seen here:
http://www.newtek.com/products/tricaster-40.html
It includes two cameras, live video over net input, and live graphics/slideshow input.
It has been tested and has succeeded a 24 hour live web broadcast burn in period. When in production, the WUWT-TV web channel will have all of the elements of a professional TV production.
During the event, WUWT-TV will be able to conduct live video interviews via Skype online video, plus will feature simultaneous PowerPoint presentations run in high quality HD to go with the live interview, while the guest narrates. These can be full screen or split screen depending on the setting.
PowerPoint presentations will be pre-loaded into the system, and to facilitate remote control, WUWT has engineered a remote ‘clicker’ that allows guest presenters to control the presentation from their end, using a web page with a forward and back button on it.
WUWT-TV has invited a number of individuals to give presentations, here is the list so far.
SCHEDULED TO APPEAR:
Andrew Montford (Author of The Hockey Stick Illusion)
Richard Lindzen (Alfred P. Sloan professor of Meteorology, MIT)
Marc Morano (Climate Depot)
John Coleman (Founder of the Weather Channel, now at KUSI-TV)
Chris Horner (Senior Fellow, Center for Energy and Environment, CEI)
Steve McIntyre (editor of ClimateAudit.org)
Dr. Ross McKitrick (University of Guelph)
John Christy (Alabama State climatologist, co author of UAH dataset)
Joe D’Aleo (WeatherBell)
Joe Bastardi (Weatherbell)
Senator Jim Inhofe
Bob Tisdale (author of Who Turned on The Heat?)
Dr. Ryan Maue (Weatherbell)
Burt Rutan, (Engineer and Aviation Pioneer)
Dr. Sebastian Lüning (co-author of Die kalte Sonne)
Harold Ambler (Author of Don’t Sell Your Coat)
Donna LaFramboise (Author of The Delinquent Teenager)
Pat Michaels (former State climatologist of Virgina, fellow of the Cato institute)
Pete Garcia (Producer of the movie The Boy Who Cried Warming)
Christopher Monckton (SPPI)
Invited but still undecided or have not returned RSVP:
Judith Curry (may appear by pre-recorded presentation she offered)
Burt Rutan (no reply)
John Kehr (no reply)
David Stockwell (no reply)
Jo Nova (undecided)
Dr. David Evans (no reply)
Zeke Hausfather, BEST (undecided)
Invited but declined:
Dr. Walt Meir, NSIDC (declined)
Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. (conflicting commitments prevent appearance)
Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. (declined but offered supplemental materials)
Bill McKibben (declined due to other commitments)
There are still a few slots open. For those on the opposite side of the debate, as well as those on the skeptic side we invite you to participate, and welcome slide and narrative presentations from 15 minutes to 1 hour in length.
For questions or to request a time slot, please use the contact form if you will be able to participate. Given that Mr. Gore wants to sell the American public on ‘dirty weather’, which we know is an act of desperation, unsupported by the current state of the science (see this Nature editorial on the lack of linkage between climate and extreme weather) your voice will be particularly important.
If you cannot participate live during that time, we can arrange to pre-record the segment and play it at the appropriate time on November 14th or 15th. All that is required is a functional webcam (with headset preferred for best audio quality) A Skype account, and a short PowerPoint presentation or video clip.
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Contact WUWT here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/about-wuwt/contact-2/
Impressive.
John
Good luck with that. Pity the msm won’t give it any coverage.
Conspicuous by his absence is Leif Svalgaard.
John
REPLY: I admit this as being part of a personal failing, due to my hearing loss and his accent, I have trouble understanding Dr. Svalgaard even in person and dread how an interview might go. That said, if he wants to put on a presentation, where I don’t have to interact beyond an introduction. He is most certainly welcome to do so. – Anthony
I would like to recommend two people who I follow — Mike Smith of http://meteorologicalmusings.blogspot.com/
and Chris Landsea
Eh-eh. You rock, Mr Watts.
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Bloke down the pub,
You mean the other MSM won’t give it coverage, don’t you. I think that WUWT is a MSM.
: )
John
Amazing stuff.. Why not invite Michael Mann et al ? Then we will see how much he wants true debate. If he refuses it would be just as good as if he accepts
Can’t wait to see the schedule of appearances. Predict that Steve Mc and Lord Monckton have the highest number of viewers
Anthony:
Congratulations. I am scheduled to be away from internet contact at the time but hope to adjust my diary to watch it.
Is it possible to have recordings of the entire event subsequently available on-line, please?
Richard
Great news. It seems to be in need of a title. How about: “Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Climate But Were Afraid to Ask”.
Anthony,
If you need full time free volunteers from now until well after the WUWT TV event, I am in Northern California and mobile and available. I can even serve coffee and be a happy go-for. : )
Please say yes.
John
Anthony, thanks again for the opportunity. I’m really looking forward to this broadcast from a viewer’s point-of-view, as well as a presenter’s.
Regards from a damp and blowy part of the world.
Fab! Looking forward to it 😉
You had me @ Lord Monckton.
Where do I click to make a donation?
Interesting endeavor.
I guess “the science guy” has prior commitment’s too. 🙂
Being able to see and hear real people talking about the true nature and our true knowledge (and lack thereof) of our climate and what effects it, will be a great service to all.
Way to go Anthony!
“Must-SEE TV!” (TM)
And for those who haven’t seen my intial YouTube response to Al Gore’s dirty weather:
Superb, absolutely superb.
Where is WILLIS E. Is he WELL? I haven’t heard from him for a WHILE…Brilliant CHAP Willis?
Car 50-Willis where are you?
There’s a rain storm in the Bronx,
Brooklyn’s Broken out with kites..
There’s a Huricane hitting Harlem, that soon will be hitting Jackson Heights!
There’s a conference less a (MANN) child,
Hansen’s screaming all things wild!
Car 50 Willis, where are you?
Big congrats on the next step Anthony,now the warmists can truely say we are an organised group.I hope you can put your broadcasts on Youtube for those of us who can not watch live due to living in different time zones..all the best wishes although we know it will be a big success
OMG, that’s fantastic Ant! And what a line up, methinks I’ll have to take the day off work and watch
Anthony, you are a star! The MSM had their chance for years and blew it big time – their loss and time will show that.
Good luck to the good ship WUWT -TV and all who sail in her. I will bookmark to watch here in the UK.
Anthony, you might also want to consider inviting John Kehr at theinconvenientskeptic.com. He has recently done a series of presentations for some folks at NASA.
REPLY: I sent him an invitation (see list) but have not heard back from him – A
Great work! Can’t wait!!
Bill McKibben (declined due to other commitments)
The lunes society ?
Brilliant piece of work Ant and a big thank you to all your participants.
Exciting stuff! Will certainly watch all I can on the day, but I’m sure all the segments will be posted up on YouTube for repeated viewings and posterity? Really looking forward to this.
What a line up of super stars !! Mon dieu!!!
Awesome.
I assume you are set up to track the live viewership numbers?
I suspect the numbers could be quite high.
Keith Briffa?
Reblogged this on Tallbloke's Talkshop and commented:
Go Team WUWT !!
🙂
That’s an impressive list of presenters! I’m looking forward to it. I hope the presentations will be individually available on YouTube after the big day so we can view the ones we missed.
of you don’t mind me saying,
Bloody marvelous!!!!
John Whitman says:
October 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Conspicuous by his absence is Leif Svalgaard.
REPLY: He is most certainly welcome to do so. – Anthony
Unfortunately, I’ll be halfway across the Pacific on my way to Japan…
How about Ivar Giaever, or Roger Cohen?
You sould send a press release to all MSM. Fox and Sun News will likely pick up on this. Lorrie Goldstein at SNN has done a lot of work on this file. He has basically the same views on CAGW as you Anthony.
Absolutely wonderful news!
Congratulations.
I find it very unfortunate that neither of the Drs. Pielke, Dr. Curry nor Dr. Walt Meier will participate. Are they perhaps intimidated of further “Blacklisting”?
So Al is having a telethon? You mean this didn’t raise enough money?
http://manbearpig.net/aboutCarbonOffsets.html
Ask Christopher Booker and/or his co-author Dr Richard North.
Sent email to Lorrie.
In regular show-biz talk, I’ve heard that a wish of good luck is “Break a Leg.”
Seeing how these are web-based performances, my best wishes are, “Crash a Server.”
Anthony-
Waddya mean “…..Mr. Gore wants to sell the American public on ‘dirty weather’, which we know is an act of desperation, unsupported by the current state of the science…..”
Kevin Trenberth has written:
“The sea surface temperatures along the Atlantic coast have been running at over 3C above normal for a region extending 800km off shore all the way from Florida to Canada. Global warming contributes 0.6C to this. With every degree C, the water holding of the atmosphere goes up 7%, and the moisture provides fuel for the tropical storm, increases its intensity, and magnifies the rainfall by double that amount compared with normal conditions.
“Global climate change has contributed to the higher sea surface and ocean temperatures, and a warmer and moister atmosphere, and its effects are in the range of 5 to 10%. Natural variability and weather has provided the perhaps optimal conditions of a hurricane running into extra-tropical conditions to make for a huge intense storm, enhanced by global warming influences.”
This I learned through “The Conversation”; you can see the full story at: tinyurl.com/9y3p72u
If you go to the Conversation home page you can read:
“We are funded by CSIRO, Melbourne, Monash, RMIT, UTS, UWA, Canberra, CDU, Deakin, Flinders, Griffith, La Trobe, Murdoch, QUT, Swinburne, UniSA, UTAS, UWS and VU.”
Does this mean that my PG degree from Melbourne Univ is worthless?
IanM
P.S. Congratulations on arranging the broadcast!
Another great news ! When do you plan a specific european similar action ?
Wow. Just great! Thanks to whoever it was.
Hopefully something will be managed for us who are overseas in funny time zones.
Hope that the invitation is extended to a few more notable climate bloggers.
Jeff Condon, Andrew Montford, and Lucia (among others) come to mind.
Anthony,
I admire your irrepressible audacity in taking on this webcast project. As a Canadian observer, it represents the best of American individualist qualities. It is also gratifying to see three Canadians amongst your A list committed presenters. Other Canadians that you might approach are Tim Ball and Madhev Khandekar.
Perhaps Harrison “Jack” Schmitt would be a good person to have on the line-up as well, just in case someone throws the moon landing hoax believers accusation out there. His presence would certainly deflect such an accusation.
Since youtube videos often get surprisingly high numbers of hits, uploading a copy to youtube as well could be best to help bring in extra new viewership, in addition to posting on WUWT itself.
Nigel Calder would be an interesting addition.
Invite the ‘other side’ to debate live on-air. Publish names of all who decline to defend their position.
I’d like a diversity of views. Conversational format is good, but as we’ve seen with the presidential debates posturing can overwhelm content. I wish to see alternating half hour segments, starting with a general view from either side then free form responses by believers and doubters in unmoderated alternation.
It is clear that Mann, Hansen, Gore et. al. would reject my format, but we’ve already heard their lectures anyway. I’d accept a list of second-tier warmists. The claim would go out “is that the best you could do? Beating up on the B-list?”, however I suspect the B-list is better armed to make a rational argument anyway; they are less encumbered by old baggage. Also, who cares what the critics might say. The purpose should be to produce quality work.
ooooh, yeah, second on Keith Briffa.
Don’t tell my doctor, he doesn’t like my popcorn addiction.
Congratulations, Anthony.
May I suggest an invitation to Richard Betts / Met Office? Certainly not possible to label him with the D-word.
Way to go Anthony, it’ll be a great success I’m certain.
This WUWT-TV would not be necessary if the MSM gave sceptics an equal whack and equal talk time without brazen distortions and dishonourable edits.
By the way Romm’s head has just exploded. 😉
Magnificent!
Have made this a red-letter-day in my diary.
Anthony – if there are still some slots, may I suggest an invite to James Delingpole, author of ‘Watermelons’, and not exactly unknown either in the climate sceptic community or in the USA?
It’s not enjoyable to see both sides competing to see who can “shout louder” at the same time. This is especially true when Gore may possess a bigger megaphone than Watts. Is either side likely to reach anyone besides irreversibly-committed supporters?
I’m personally more interested in your ability to rebut Gore (such as the fake CO2 experiment) than your attempts to out-shout him. Please save some energy for that.
Anthony
Good luck with this new venture
Tonyb
Please do invite Mann, Gore, Schmidt, Romm etc. They will of course decline but at least they can never accuse your of not inviting them.
Might I recommend Bryce Johnson. Nuclear physicist and presenter of this talk in May.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/10/27/bryce-johnson-limits-of-carbon-dioxide-in-causing-global-warming/
Daym! Good going all – Anthony, a suggestion that you do a short feature on your moderators. They do one hellava job for all of us and it’d be nice to see their ugly mugs on the video…
Mike
Few suggestions:
Why not call it “It’s Just The Weather and Not The Climate” and make a clear point about what the IPCC calls climate = 30 years or more of data.
Pull up you graphs showing weather events – no trends (graphs really are the killer).
Put it on Youtube.
Put up a page for it now so people can spread the link widely before it airs.
Good luck, this is just what the doctor ordered.
PS
I second it, where is Willis?
Wonderful! Can’t wait!
Any chance someone will make a point or two about the “dirty electricity” that is put out by those curly lightbulbs? Not to mention the need for HAZMAT teams to clean up broken curly bulbs because of their mercury content.
You should get Mark Steyne hee hee
Christopher Booker
Lubos Motl
Vaclav Kraus
Lucia
Mosher
Tallbloke
Great initiative, Anthony. ! am really looking forward to seeing it.
James Delingpole would be a worthy addition to your line-up.
Leif Svalgaard
May I encourage you to pre-record and submit to help provide solar expertise.
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Anthony
I encourage you to invite Nigel Fox of NPL to describe his TRUTHS project. He shows how to improve satellite measurements by 10 fold – and shows the major uncertainties in the current system.
Great News! However, you know it will happen, so, who is funding? I am not an ass, I completely support all you have done, however, again, this will be their stupid point, not the great info.
Anthony. Just a heads up: this post didn’t appear to come thru on my Email notification whereas another one from WUWT today did. I only heard via Tallbloke’s reblog and link to here. Perhaps others might not have got it too?
Well done by the way. I shall be watching.
Way to go Anthony! Streamed live on the web I sure hope (or am I going to be forced to get a cable lead again)?
This should add some real scientific balance. Well, the MSM is on its way out anyway and someone has to fill the hole and I can think of no one better to bring in some honesty. Now don’t let this go to a few heads I can think of, they are big enough all ready!
Great news.
richardK,
Funding courtesy of Big Oil and the Koch Bros.
/sarc
Bob Carter?
I didn’t catch the positional irony, until just now.
The post previous to announcement of WUWT-TV is:
McKibben and Romm schlepping for Tabloid Climatology interviews
IOW, they are saying, “Please, interview us.”
You are saying, “Tune in.”
Excellent news! – also congratulations and a big helping of thanks to your donor. Looking forward to it.
And yes, where is Willis? And Smokey?
Hi Anthony. I know you’re probably busy getting everything lined up, but if you have time, you may want to set up a 2 – 3 minute video introducing the event, the participants and some of the items that will be covered. If you posted that to YouTube and linked it here, we could all share that video as an announcement through social media to get it in front of more people. I, as I’m sure many others, would be glad to share that video on Twitter and Facebook. This needs to be in front of a lot of people and hopefully the intro would have some of the “Why” weather is simply weather and not global warming.
MSNBC just showed a shot of Sandy and made some idiotic statement about right-wingers trying to keep people in the dark about this “massive” climate change created hurricane. What people should hear is the global warming crowd want people in the dark, literally, and storms have happened like this many times in history.
Thanks for everything you do!
D Böehm says:
October 29, 2012 at 2:05 pm
richardK,
Funding courtesy of Big Oil and the Koch Bros.
/sarc
That’s what I mean. Head the crap off before “It” becomes the story.
Anthony and Co. will of course do a bang-up job (great line-up) and it will be a real treat, but let’s not forget to thank the donor who made this possible. Thank you! Your generosity will benefit many people all over the world.
Congratulations Anthony and many many thanks to your sponsor.
I would love to see a debate on a specific topic, for example the so called 97% of scientists etc.
Another might be the false analogy arguement. 98 doctors say you have cancer etc.
These arguements are so easily disproved but it would be great to have the debates available.
Might be a little off topic, but here is a list of ALGORE investments and federal subsidies:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/gores-green-investments/2012/10/10/03612904-1340-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_graphic.html
ALGORE is just a billion dollar “Sham Wow” hawker
Wow, amazing. What about Spencer?
Anthony, I highly recommend you invite scifi writer David Brin. He’s an astrophysicist and a warming alarmist and loves to hear himself talk.
congrats to all involved.
any possibility that u could intersperse with a few worthwhile documentaries, e.g. “the great global warming swindle”.
Have you considered inviting Al Gore himself? He would no doubt decline, but I suspect about 8 hours into his own 24-hour project he would realize all his viewers have hit the “snooze” button and he’d have a bigger audience on WUWT-TV.
How about some of the other heavy-hitters on the AGW side — Barbara Streisand, Madonna, Rosie O’Donnel?
Dear John Constable of Renewable Energy Foundation:
I thought I would let you know that there is an opportunity on WUWT to submit a small presentation.
He has issued a call for research on the science behind AGW, and although I do not know if he will address renewable energy, I think you would make a wonderful contribution to the subject.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/29/announcement-wuwt-tv-to-counter-al-gores-24-hours-of-climate-reality-on-november-14th-and-15th/
Warm regards,
…
http://www.ref.org.uk/press-releases
Hi Anthony,
Perhaps approaches could also be made to Dr. Bob Carter, Dr. Vincent Gray and Mr. David Archibald. And what about Dr. Timothy Ball and Dr. Benny Peiser?
Greg Beasley
(Prospect NSW)
Sorry about your hearing loss Mr. Watts. It does, however, explain a lot. JP
I second Bob Carter.
How about a few Aussies like Tim Flannery or David Karoly? Tim is a well experienced TV personality – it might be interesting to ask him some more penetrating questions than what he gets on the ABC and see how he answers them?
Will Piers Corbyn be proved correct?
way cool…
What a world class line up! I agree with a poster above that a few contributions from Dellers would be good.
Also, it might be a good idea to approach this whole broadcast with the idea of editing the highlights down to a 90 minute movie… a, sort-of “Convenient Truth”.
If you need any screen graphics (static) for the broadcast, I’d be glad to help.
Anthony,
That should be: “Dr. Sebastian Lüning (Author of Die kalte Sonne) and not “Dr. Sebastian Luning (Author of Die Kalt Sonne)”
Typo: it’s Donna Laframboise not Le… SUPER cool… I hope the 24h will be saved somewhere and be played back at will.
How about Henrik Svensmark & Jasper Kirkby?
See if there is any one who understands what the old people of Chaco Canyon of New Mexico were doing trying to track the sun and moon cycles. Some chance they too needed long term knowledge of the weather as they lived out in it for 10,000’s of years.
The rocks of the sun, moon cycles.
Without knowledge of the long term weather patterns could be you would end up with the whole of a people starving to death. Or they could learn of when to seek better climate some where else.
Those new here do not have all the understanding and knowing.
I’d watch an interview with Willis Eschenbach, on any topic you or he chose, but especially if you went into a detailed discussion of his theory of how water (the hydrology cycle) and especially large tropical storms serve as a built in closed loop regulator of the world wide energy balance. You need to interview more engineers, people who have practical insight and understand the magnitude of contributing factors, than strictly “specialists”. We want Willis, we want Willis . . . .
Murry Salby would be nice also, he did an excellent presentation here: http://youtu.be/ZVCps_SwD5w
Thanks, Anthony, you’re my favorite Republican operative!
You could also try to get Will Alexander of South Africa for your program.
IanM
apachewhoknows says:
October 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm
“See if there is any one who understands what the old people of Chaco Canyon of New Mexico were doing trying to track the sun and moon cycles. Some chance they too needed long term knowledge of the weather as they lived out in it for 10,000′s of years.”
That would be an amazing additional perspective. It would be terrific to see apachewhoknows take a spot.
Keith Briffa would be cool.
No one have mentioned Hernrik Svensmark, shame on you all.
Just remember: no one wants to dazzled and bored to death by experts and academics. All that is necessary is to keep it real, genuine, and done for good reasons – not a vanity fair.
Perhaps one or two of the 49 former NASA scientists and astronauts who wrote to Charles Bolden could speak, such as Apollo 7 lunar module pilot Walter Cunningham. Their opinion has great credibility around the world.
No James Delingpole?
This is terrific news! I am a bit concerned that you have chosen to launch with such a high profile, but hey, ya gotta start somewhere! Just be ready to be ridiculed for any errors that are sure to occur. There will likely be many. I used to work in live video production millions of years ago and even when we had time to edit there was always some glitch that snuck by. If I had one bit of advice to give it is to have 3 separate guests lined up for each time slot and juggle them as you go. Nothing worse than dead air. That’s what green rooms are for!
Best of luck!
Another vote for Willis and the thermostat.
It would be nice to see a memorial and retrospective of John Daly’s work, if anyone has the time to create one.
Oh, and if you are looking to spread wider, you could do a piece on Roger Bacon. He seems to have been the first person to propose that experiment and facts should trump authority – quite a feat for the 1200s, since authority (of the Bible or the Classical authors) was then seen as the only way to acquire wisdom. He effectively invented the concept of science as we know it today, and he fought for all of his life against the ‘science is settled’ approach of our current establishment.
He has his 800th anniversary coming up in 2013, and I believe that no one in world is planning to celebrate it…
Congratulations, Anthony. You are (and have been from the beginning) at the forefront of “alternative institutions”, “alternative media”, and investigative journalism. “Alternative” means with integrity and honoring the scientific method. May this endeavor thrive and give you (and us) hours of pleasure. Back to the Enlightenment! Best wishes.
Another vote for Tallbloke’s recommendation of Bryce Johnson.
http://climateclash.com/the-limits-of-carbon-dioxides-influence-on-world-temperature/
I hope I’ll be able to watch…might be travelling at the time. It sounds great.
I also was thinking of James Delingpole.
Really impressive. Could this be the first step towards an independent quality science TV channel ?
Will there be any structure or overall theme?
It would be really interesting to see the various areas of contention discussed, sea ice, global average temperature, ocean heat content etc. These could then be made into separate programmes post production and posted to Youtube etc for future reference and interest and for those that don’t have twenty four hours to watch it all!
it would also be great to have interviews done in the UK with David Rose (Daily Mail) and Peter Sissons (formerly BBC).
Boy, with a cast like that it’s a wonder commercial interests have jumped in.
A great step forward Anthony –
Here is an idea for some content at some time.
This 1990 documentary “The Greenhouse conspiracy” was way ahead of its time in 1990.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/work/10383971?selectedversion=NBD10248532
Youtube has it here –
but I can not get it to play.
Dr Richard North should be extended an invitation…
REQUEST:
Can all interviews be cut into individual parts and uploaded to YouTube?
p.s.
Here’s hoping Burt Rutan is a show.
Rog Tattersall would be good on sea surface temps, etc..
Fred Singer
Roy Spencer
Really impressive list. Really.
Just wondrin:
Roy Spencer? Chrisopher Booker? Freeman Dyson? James Delingpole? Mark Steyn? William Happer? Dennis Miller (yes, that Dennis Miller)
Much as I admire James Delingpole, I feel that the broadcast should focus on the science rather than the politics. James is great at exposing the thinking surrounding the environmental politics that we suffer from in the UK but, at this stage, I feel we need to debunk the science and leave the green movement no room to say you are using hyperbole to make your points.
Once the ‘science’ is undermined and the concept of a consensus is proven to be false, the rest of the ideology can be tackled in due course.
Good luck and, as others have said, please ensure there is some kind of archive that those of us in Europe can access after the events.
Dr. Vincent Courtillot could discuss the regional temps as compared to the supposed “global” temps, for North America and Europe.
Could I suggest contacting Paul Homewood at
Not A Lot Of People Know That
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/
He’s done some sterling work on data manipulation in places such as GISS and the UK Met Office.
Others are recommending Bob Carter and I recommend him too if its possible.
BTW This is a great idea and I wish you all the best!!
I’d like to recommend Marcel Crok; site here. His 2005 Popes of Science article (pdf abstract here), was among the first to warn of the perversion overtaking climate science. IMO he deserves a Pulitzer for that very prescient article.
Anthony, other good additions would include Oliver K. Manuel, Tim Ball [Canada] and Burt Rutan.
Cliff Mass
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/
R.G. Brown at Duke!
Brilliant, Anthony, well impressed! Looking forward to seeing it! Like others though, James Delingpole, Christopher Booker and Richard North would make very valuable contributions. You could also invite Michael Mann, he seems to be in a particularly litigious mood at the moment. You definitely don’t want to get on the wrong side of him!!
Anthony, very very well done. Excellent and awesome with a capital O.
The one thing that comes to mind is ‘preaching to the choir’. Maybe you can incorporate some kind of swingometer, studio panel or whatever to encourage the man-in-the-street to get exposed to this stuff? Perhaps the MSM will do it if you can get it onto FOX.
The other opportunity is to do real-time rebuttal of Al Gore’s BS…yes I know you don’t want to be defined by the other side, but addressing the outrageous overhype immediately might be possible.
[snip – this is way off topic and has nothing to do with WUWT-TV – mod]
That is exciting news Anthony.
What about Dr. Willie Soon?
I would suggest a hypothetical topic of the consequences on our power supply during a storm such as the east coast is currently enduring, if we had a large part of power supply from thousands of offshore windmills , that has been advocated. Blackouts would probably last months.
@ColdOldMan, October 29, 2012 at 4:57 pm ….I feel that the broadcast should focus on the science rather than the politics. …”
I respectfully disagree. Since this issue was politicized from the start in the late ’80s/ early ’90s with the twin unsupportable assertions that the science was settled and skeptics were corrupt, hitting back on only the science is a tactic that does nothing to disarm the baseless accusations against skeptics’ “corruption”. It only breeds more efforts to support the dumb conspiracy idea that Anthony and anybody who speaks with him are fossil fuel industry shills, religious nutcases, free-market zealots, or whatever other domino that’s placed in front of the idea that respectable people may have perfectly valid skepticism about AGW.
If any major headway is to be made in this issue, it must be unequivocally demonstrated that the accusation about skeptics ‘manufacturing doubt’ about settled science instead has every appearance of being specifically consolidated efforts to manufacture doubt about the credibility of skeptics as a ruse to prevent the general public from spotting fatal flaws in AGW. As I suggested last year right here in a WUWT guest post ( http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/25/the-end-is-near-for-faith-in-agw/ ), the ‘settled science’ / ‘corrupt skeptics’ only works when there is faith in that whole system, but when that faith is wiped out on BOTH fronts, the whole thing can collapse like a giant ponzi scheme.
It’s very good to have qualified scientists and engineers on board to give technical background to the topic of Global Warming, whether this be Natural, Anthropogenic, Catastrophic Anthropogenic or Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Change and so forth and so on.
The problem, as I see it, Is not the concept of warming itself (the yes, no or maybe responses) but rather the political, cultural and economic responses to the implication that warming (the only part of “climate change” that will kill us according to the meme) will be a disaster. Now, if an asteroid was definitively bearing down upon us and 100% we could expect an impact and destruction, then it would make sense for politicians to take certain decisions, in the *short term*, which would have political, cultural and economic impacts on the world’s population, in order to protect it. The problem with AGW is at least threefold. 1, the level of the warming has with it an uncertainty with respect to its magnitude. 2, There is a level of uncertainty with respect to the cause (CO2 vs Natural vs other) and 3, there is greater uncertainty with respect to the impacts of the proposed climatic changes on the world’s population.
So, under the circumstances, once scientists have prepared a case for politicians (and dare I say, the public) – eg the IPCC reports – then the decision with respect to appropriate response is a responsibility that each affected person, ie citizens, voters, consumers have and a right to a full say in. It is not the sole right of scientists, politicians and economists or lobby groups etc to make decisions which affect us all. Yes, they are taking that privilege (see carbon tax in Australia) but it makes it no less the right of us, the great unwashed, to have our say, our input, our protest.
Anthony, please get some of the unwashed on your show, who can speak rationally about how this ‘meme’ is affecting their economic life and freedom to enjoy their lifestyle (eg people with a windlectic dumped in their backyard). How their power bills have risen. How they have to make choices between warmth and food.
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Good on ya, Anthony. Way to take the offensive. Be the first to offer a fair and reasoned debate on this very important subject. Invite both sides to present their cases and let the science prevail.
I’m guessing Al Gore is ruing the day he invented the internet right now.
“Vive la vérité!”
“Bill McKibben (declined due to other commitments)”
More likely declined out of a desire not to get his brains beat in. And how can blame him. Bill McKibben has a middle name, and the name is, “even I know I’m full of crap.”
If anyone in Western Washington State would like to make a get-together of this, please let us know.
Seconding others writing in requesting some more scientists.
Reblogged this on Is it 2012 in Nevada County Yet? and commented:
I will be watching, please invites some friends in for a viewing. We are going up it up on the big screen.
If possible, may I suggest Dr.Tamsin Edwards? She gave a very creditable first radio-interview in September, eliciting praise at Bishop Hill and compliments such as
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/9/13/tamsin-on-the-jet-stream.html
Cliff Mass is a “go along to get along” climate scientist. As far as I can tell, he has no backbone.
Is this a one off? Or is it going to be a recurring?
If the latter, I think some of the focus should be on the layman’s viewpoint.
Anomalies, Proxies, Forcings, Homogenizations etc. get lost on the common man. I love this site, but I often think it too difficult for the average person to get their head around.
Suggest having Pete Garcia help as a co-producer, he did a very professional looking job on The Boy who Cried Warming.
I still think this is your most effective weapon:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/12/historical-video-perspective-our-current-unprecedented-global-warming-in-the-context-of-scale/
Nothing beats it. If you could spend 1/2 hour on how that was done, and maybe another half hour on what others have done to try to falsely defeat those facts in favor of activism, it would be a great presentation.
Great I can’t wait to tune in. Ain’t the Internet great! Congratulations Anthony!
Congratulations, Anthony. This is a major accomplishment.
I’ll second the nominations for James Delingpole and Christopher Booker on the skeptical side.
Also the suggestion that some notable warmists be invited. e.g. Mann and Hansen.
wshofact,
Is this the video you referred to? It seems to work OK, but has been subtitled and edited ?
Very good guest list.
Congratulations!
I’ll be watching.
Strongly second that.
And for a CAGW point of view how about that film director or producer who so wanted to debate until push came to shove… I think it was James Cameron.
This is great news!
You should enlist Mosh to walk by in the background once an hour and spit out dismissive sentence fragments. J/K Mosh we love you but I wish you would finish those thoughts!
Outstanding!
apachewhoknows says:
October 29, 2012 at 2:59 pm
“… who understands what the old people of Chaco Canyon of New Mexico were doing …. as they lived out in it for 10,000′s of years.”
So you are claiming that the Chaco Canyon culture is synonymous with Clovis culture? Since Chaco was most active around 900 AD, that would mean that they made it through the Younger Dryas relatively unscathed.
Sorry.. I’m not convinced.
Fantastic. Thanks for doing this, and thanks to the generous donor too!
Who is going to produce the show, etc? Bumper music, etc? I hope you have help so you can just be your usual relaxed, enjoyable self, Anthony. Break a leg.
What? And miss watching 2 canning jars heat up under intense heat lamps! And I can watch over and over, without having to fix my faulty audio.
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I’d consider the get-together suggested by Jeff Alberts @ 7:07 pm in Western WA State but global warming has failed to make getting over Snoqualmie Pass in mid-November a sure thing. Safer to stay on the dry side.
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Main Skeptic Media! – WUWT TV
Excellent. And nicely foreshadowed. I can’t wait to see the viewer comparisons. Maybe this will encourage Gore to crawl under a rock and disappear before he squanders all his ill-begotten wealth. Let’s hope Ben Bernanke follows him ASAP.
This could be the start of something big …
I very much look forward to it.
I hope your servers are up to the task.
Now:
Bob Tisdale said on October 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm:
A week ago:
Bob Tisdale said on October 23, 2012 at 7:40 am:
*snort*
Thanks. This will be a most entertaining and hopefully enlightening event. Great line up.
Some discussion of the politics above. I would caution against making the event political in any way. Certainly not party political. If you make an issue of “Obama this” and “liberals that” then you are polarising the audience that, I hope, you would want to reach.
You want all people to be able to tune in and consider the science as it is delivered to them without them feeling they are being preached to by the GOP.
Unless the subject of the piece is exactly about the politicising of the science then I’d avoid it. Not everyone with a dog in this fight is American and those of us on the outside are not driven by politics when it comes to our understanding of climate issues. America is not as big a part of the world as America considers itself. But then you can only understand that from being on the outside of the patriotic fervour.
Personally I look at Romney and the Republicans, look at some of their policies regarding human rights and I find it amazing that there are human beings who could bring themselves to vote for people with such hatred, people who can’t separate faith from office or their own twisted morality from the act of using policy for the common good.. Then I look at their climate policy and even though I know it’s free-market-driven rather than science-driven I can see the positives.
I have no wish to bash America as I’ve been a frequent visitor and personally love many, many parts of it and its people. But politically it is a sewer.
Thankfully I’m from the UK & don’t have to make those choices.
Knowing how polarising the politics are in the US you run the risk of losing the very people you should be trying to reach if it’s seen as just another right-wing campaign for the presidency. In the real world there is no such thing as left and right. Like the climate, the issues are far too complicated to put in boxes.
Too bad this won’t be available until after the election, perhaps AG was told not to do his shtick before the election.
Great news Anthony.
An important step in getting some prominence for the side of the debat that the MSM doesn’t want the public to know about.
The scientist Ole Humlum who also have the site climate4you.com
Example from his site: “GISS corrections of the Nuuk Greenland surface air temperature record”
http://tinyurl.com/9kewqau
Couple of further suggestions
Do a Panel with Jo Nova, and warmist Psychobablist Stephan Lewandowski – Given the opportunity to debate Lewandowski, Jo I think would definitely be a show. After all Stephan is a great friend of WUWT sending all those surveys your way.
I second, third, forth, and fifth Prof Bob Carter – He’s a great speaker but also understands that the money wasted here is harming the poor and sick of the world; give him a joint gig with Will Kininmonth “Kininmonth headed Australia’s National Climate Centre at the Bureau of Meteorology from 1986 to 1998,[2] ” wikipedia – They both know each other and are very knowlegeable and approchable blokes.
You might even approach Andrew Bolt or Alan Jones as notable media identities here in Aus as presenters – though they might have restrictions on their ability to make such performances.
I think you need to send a Media Advice to Fox and Sky networks – Also each Capital city in Australia has a public access broadcaster for Aus, I’d propose a “Best of” compilation and book time on public access TV – We’d need a resident of each such city to coordinate.
Sweet. Well done. Nice lineup. I’ll be there –and I hope you archive it as well for later viewing.
I’m saddened that Dr. Walt Meir declined. I expect he would have been happy to appear and argue his case, and his superiors forbid him. My impression of Dr. Walt is that he’s a “happy warrior”, and I always respect those.
Excellent news and good luck Anthony.
I would suggest that brilliant young Israeli scientist Nir Shaviv
unfortunately, the MSM won’t let go of the meme.
imagine if they weren’t ***reluctant!
30 Oct: Sydney Morning Herald: Peter Hannam with Reuters: Sandy has lessons for Australia, BoM says
Scientists are ***reluctant to attribute any single weather event to the effects of global warming. Climate models, though, predict fewer – but more intense – major storms such as cyclones or hurricanes.
“This is the sort of thing we’re warning about increasing over time,” Dr Braganza said. “We are breaking records across metrics where we’d expect to break records as the planet warms.”
The bureau’s scientists are also interested in the period of very unusual pressure patterns over North America since the start of summer, notable for its extreme heat and the worst drought in many regions for decades. Some speculate that the extraordinary weather patterns may be linked to the record sea-ice melt across the Arctic that smashed records, Dr Braganza said…
Dr Will Steffen, a member of the Australian Climate Commission, noted that Sandy is only a category 1 hurricane, but the damage will likely be significant because of its huge size and the fact that its landing coincided with a high tide.
“Sea-level rises – the observed sea-level rise around the world over the past century, and the projections for further rises – are related to climate change,” Dr Steffen said.
“It is the combination of sea-level rise, storm surge (like the one coming in from Sandy on the eastern USA coast) and high tides that lead to the worst flooding events.”
“The point here is that even modest rises in sea-level – of just tens of centimetres – can lead to much higher probabilities of high sea-level events,” Dr Steffen said…
However, getting the broader message through that authorities everywhere need to consider the increased risk to lives and infrastructure from a warming climate is an issue that is likely to linger well after the storm event, he (Braganza) said…
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/sandy-has-lessons-for-australia-bom-says-20121030-28gyg.html
This is what public service is really about!
MSM has not the power and controkl they think they have anymore. The internet has changed the game. People value thier independance and facts.
Congratiolations Andy and to all WUWT readers who know can become its watchers as well.
MSM is diggings one grave. This is a development that is gonna be copied if successful witch Im sure it will be. Im sure all sceptic blogs will help to distribute your programs/shows.
For a break from the science (how many times can you say “but it’s happened before” in 24hrs?) how about covering the investigation into Climategate?
Many people don’t realise what Climategate found; it is importanat.
And the idea that Tallbloke’s PCs could be impounded will certainly interest a few people who think they are the good guys.
WOW and more WOW
You could have some serious fun with the backgrounds have yourself by some of those lovely cuddly Polar Bears or atop a windmill, or for irony in front of one of those “Big Oil” company building from whence so much money goes to the sceptics (sarc)
But seriously this was worth the build up you gave it!
James Bull
Reposted on this at Deviantart. Was picked up by one group with over 21000 members. Yeah, I think at least a few of those will be watching you. Good luck!
PS~ would have loved to see mckibben in there. The camera could cut to him from time to time, as he sputtered ‘but… but……. but!’
I do hope Peter Gleick has been invited to do a slot on ethics.
All the best with yr enterprise,Anthony. May it be a more successful block buster
than ‘Gone With the Wind.’
Say, some good recommendations from Dodgy Geezer, 29/10 @3.50 pm.
No-one will be listening but a group of hardened stoics who clamour for affirmation…still, if it keeps you old boys happy, keep it up. We can send over some kendle-mint cake 😉
Yes congratulations Anthony. I like the idea of the possibility of this becoming the new science channel.
How about inviting John Theon, Jimmie Hansen’s former boss?
And for a break, how about inviting the opposition for some debates? Lewandowsky??? Peter Gleick??? Gavin Schmidt??? the SkeSci team??? (mind boggles) Or just someone to represent PBS???
I think it would be a strong point if you were seen to have invited a reasonable number of the other side to join in a reasonably-refereed debate.
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WSHOFACT
This is the full version and works for me.
Lucy Skywalker says:
October 30, 2012 at 2:48 am
“I think it would be a strong point if you were seen to have invited a reasonable number of the other side to join in a reasonably-refereed debate. ”
Lucy – that is a good idea. Unfortunately, as The Good Bishophas found out, they don’t want to debate…
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2012/10/29/a-kind-of-debate.html
And another thing!
For some light and comic relief – do give some airtime to “Minnesotans4Globalwarming”, please!
Anthony:
I have read the comments since my earlier post in this thread. Several suggest additional speakers and I write to support that. Inputs from non-US people would help to show the breadth of support for science and reality against the AGW-scare.
Also, 24 hours is a long time. Sections of recorded inputs from around the globe would be interesting, useful and possibly influential ‘filler’.
I really think Henrik Svensmark would be an asset. He has a mild but attractive presence, speaks good English. Most of the public are not aware of his work and the related experiments at CERN, and his work makes a nice ‘fit’ with that of Nir Shaviv . Some people have suggested Nigel Calder who co-authored ‘The Chilling Stars’ with Henrik, but I think Henrik would have a much better screen presence.
While talking about solar stuff, I would like to suggest an input from Paal Brekke . He sometimes (very rarely) posts to WUWT and was an important part of the SOHO project.
As some others have said, Bob Carter and Bill Kininmonth would make a stellar double act from Oz.
Realism would be held to the fore by Robert Brown whose cogent and erudite contributions to WUWT speak for themselves.
Also, intermittent feedback from a panel of ‘ordinary people’ may be interesting and useful to viewers. If so then someone such as David M Hoffer would seem to be an appropriate person to interrogate the panel (he is not a scientists but has deep understanding of a wide range of AGW issues) although I have not met him so I cannot assess his probable screen presence.
In conclusion, I very strongly support zootcadillac in his advice to avoid partisan politics if possible. This may be difficult when the show includes the excellent Sen. Inhofe but no balancing US political view. Partisan politics may create more new opponents than new friends.
I hope these thoughts from an old socialist are helpful to your considerations, and I ask you to convey my greetings and good wishes to all participants in the event.
Richard
How about Patrick Moore. Ex Greenpeace co-founder. He would present sensible alternatives and critique to current environmental policies as advocated by the Big Green organizations.
Anthony, your vimeo video embedded in this post does NOT play in my firefox on Ubuntu 12.04 system. I have no problem playing flash videos.
REPLY: Not under my control nor my problem, sorry – Anthony
IanS says:
I do hope Peter Gleick has been invited to do a slot on ethics.
Too funny! Almost had a coffee spill.
The problem, of course, is that the smallest slot is 15 minutes. What would he do with the other 14’50”?
Hi Lucy, I don’t think they would accept. But I would like to see Bob Carter too. I attended a talk of his a few years ago, and he is very very logical.
Anthony said:
> I have trouble understanding Dr. Svalgaard …
You coulld possibly invite Dr Svalgaard to pre-record something and add some subtitles. Do you have the equipment to do that?
Raven00 says:
October 30, 2012 at 2:42 am
“No-one will be listening but a group of hardened stoics who clamour for affirmation…still, if it keeps you old boys happy, keep it up. We can send over some kendle-mint cake ;)”
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thinkprogress.org
Audience SnapshotTop Search Queries for Thinkprogress.org
Based on internet averages, thinkprogress.org is visited more frequently by users who are over 65 years old and have no children.
Anthony, best of luck with this! This will be no small task to pull off, but even getting to this point is a great accomplishment.
Raven00 says:
“a group of hardened stoics who clamour for affirmation”
Logic FAIL: Stoics would be indifferent to affirmation.
Anthony – another contributor you might consider is David Bellamy. David used to be an very popular TV presenter of natural history programmes on the BBC. Needless to say, he was got-rid-of by the corporation when he began questioning global warming dogma.
I think David Bellamy could make a fantastic slot taking an overview of ‘humans’ and their natural drive to develop the world around them – in the most brilliant technological ways – throughout history.
Many people still hold the presenter in warm affection.
Just a thought. Is there a plan you have put in place in case the intercast becomes the target of a cyber-attack?
This is big, big news and a big chance for all of us who are not into climate alarmism. I wish you all luck organizing this and getting the event out. I hope all participants will keep it on professional level and will not slip in any crackpottism that can be criticised later and used to dismiss the whole event.
Interviews of scientists now gone would make for an interesting segment.
Anthony,
“Dr. Sebastian Lüning (co-author of Die Kalt Sonne)” is still wrong, you missed that “Kalt” should be “kalte”
I guess I should have pointed out there were two typos, and not just one. Sorry,and good luck with the WUWT-TV, great idea!
Good luck with this Anthony.
I made my semi regular visit to the tip jar today but I screwed up and only managed to put $1 in – I have a dodgy keyboard… I’ll revisit and put enough for a few beers in later.
Cheers!
Why not invite the guy who destroyed the hockey stick…then the blade…first?
Willie Soon.
Peter S says:
October 30, 2012 at 6:07 am
I second the motion. David Bellamy – a great character and stil much loved and respected by the British public.
Not to discourage, but from my experience, television is never as interesting as the immediate give-and-take of a forum like this. Still, best of luck!
May I recommend asking Mark Steyn if he has 15min? He gives a great & funny interview if he has the time.
Pamela Gray says:
October 30, 2012 at 6:49 am “. . . now gone . . .”
I can visualize, in the background, charts of temperature projections that have failed with Richard Feynman in b/w foreground:
“It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If your theory doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.”
Michael Mann constantly refers to those questioning him as “the rabble”. With a lineup like this it will be hard for Mann to justify his denigrating insults. These folks will be saying the same things that the ‘rabble’ are saying. After these interviews the ‘rabble’ will have some good quotes to shove down Mann’s throat.
So are you saying there’s no link between climate and weather? Just wondering …
+1 for David Bellamy. If you have never had the pleasure of seeing this man talk on a subject that interests him, you have really been missing something. What the BBC did to David is … short of any better description … a travesty.
This is more than great, congratulation and big thanks to this Anthony!!
Some commenters have suggested participation from (i.e.) Bob Carter, Ole Humlum, Mark Steyn and many other… I’d like to propose, that you also invite Connie Hedegaard (EU enviro-commis.), a superbly influencial politocrat here (and there), and, while at it; why not try to get Maurice Strong to appear, maybe the two most dangerous persons outside the US… 😉
Either way/or participants, please see to that the result of all the efforts can be viewed by a maximum number of interested people around the World, regardless of ‘IT-systems’. Big thanks!
Brgds from Sweden
/TJ
Fabulous! Outstanding!
Congratulations, Anthony!!! 🙂
Brilliant Anthony! Can’t wait.
To get some post-broadcast MSM attention, you need either to bury Gore’s audience figures (which I’m sure you will) or have a raging stand-up coffee-hurling row with a famous alarmist (which I’m sure you won’t because you’re far too polite). Failing that, get one of Mann’s many victims to “libel” him on live TV. 🙂
How about ’24 Reasons why Climate Alarmism is Fatally Flawed’ as the theme?
Totally +1 with the names others have mentioned. Given all the alarmist froth about Sandy, perhaps get TonyB to air some ‘anecdotal’ historical eveidence on ‘Great Storms of the Past’?
How many people actually watch Al Gore TV?
I do know that regular mundane everyday gore on TV and in movies is pretty popular. What I mean is, that in some markets gore really sells well, especially during holloween.
But, once they find out it’s really All Gore how many people really watch?
I AM glad for you Anthony. It will be alot of work.
WUWT-TV is a really great idea and I wish it every success. I’ll watch what I can here in England.
One word of warning … Have some industrial-strength security up on your servers, you WILL be a target for DOS and other attacks. It’s what the ‘other side’ do, try silence any form of questioning of “The Consensus”.
Freeman Dyson
Just wondrin why Roy Spencer wasn’t automatically on, even at the top of, the list?
REPLY: I can’t see everything on the www, rather than grouse about it provide a link where he says no and I’ll add it – Anthony
I wasn’t complaining. I thought that there had been a reason why he wasn’t on the appearing or waiting for reply list. I kept looking over the list for two days thinking it would appear, or that I just was overlooking it. Just thought he would be a natural appear for the show.
James Lovelock!
Istm you have an opportunity to educate, and the people who need to be educated are; politicians, journalists, the ordinary public, and confused children. So, imo, you need a “Climate Science for Dummies” segment, and that segment needs to show the physical basis of the “Greenhouse Effect” (if indeed such physical basis exists, of which I’m doubtful).
If you’ve got a bunch of scientists, some of whom are “lukewarmers”, it should be a trivial exercise for one of then to show the theoretical and actual temperatures of the Moon (to show the math works) and then show there’s some difference on Earth that is due to its atmosphere. It should be a piece of cake. In fact, I’m suprised that “basic physics” page doesn’t exist on every lukewarmers website.
Getting rather tired of this self-righteous delusion. If you live in the UK or EU, e.g., you are a fish swimming in the leftist sea, unaware. The entire “CO2=pollution and gubmint/the UN must fix it” package is pretty much a given, no one dares or hopes to contest it.
You’re not “apolitical”, just so thoroughly politicized you’re unaware of it.
The pro AGW response to this well be all too predictable. WUWT TV is funded by Heartland-Koch Brothers-Big Oil and is therefore denialist propaganda. It would not be surprising if they try to conflate this with Fakegate.
Brian H says:
October 31, 2012 at 2:06 am
You’re not “apolitical”, just so thoroughly politicized you’re unaware of it.
You’re spot on Brian. I have the same feeling, the L(egacy)SM on the right side of the North Atlantic seem to be so biased that it does not report uncertainties, issues or inconsistencies in the greenhouse theory. A look at Wikipedia, that is the current understanding of “non-biased” in Europe.
So people tend to think this is established science and are kept bombarded with all the CAGW papers and “Tabloid Climatology” stories.
Cracks start to appear, but its a long way to go. Europe seems to be decided to do harakiri on “renewable” (and still not realises it does not work) combating a non-existent thread and missing to address real problems.
How can friendly foreigners in Oz get to watch this exciting presentation. Cheers from sunny Sydney
Lars P;
Thanks. And I think you mean “non-extistent threat”, no?
That is a fascinating effort, btw. Subtract the “CO2 is dangerous” presumption from every energy and renewables decision justification in the EU and they are instantly revealed as utterly inane, and economically suicidal.
typo: “non-existent threat”. Muphry’s Law strikes again!!
Keep politics out of this project and you have my support.
Well… you have my support anyway Anthony, but that does not mean I wont call you on any stated scientific facts. Mwaaahaha!
Definitely invite Michael Mann.
Not that he’ll accept, of course. But how will he hide his decline?
“I admit this as being part of a personal failing, due to my hearing loss and his accent, I have trouble understanding Dr. Svalgaard even in person and dread how an interview might go. That said, if he wants to put on a presentation, where I don’t have to interact beyond an introduction. He is most certainly welcome to do so. – Anthony”
one wonders if the state of the art in voice recognition technology has not advanced enough to do “English subtitles” of his English. Obviously, there will be an occasional mangling of his presentation from time to time. “To” is likely to come out as “Too” or “Two” or “Toot” or something like that. Like yourself, I am a victim of “old fart who can’t hear” disease aka presbycusis. With some audio filtering at the machine end most things work, but the subtitles come in handy.
While I am sure that the free versions are worth every penny you pay for them, there are some professional versions out there that might actually do a reasonable job.
Anthony,
Just a thought.
You could show the pictures of the experiment of plants growing better with elevated levels of CO2. You could provide a slide (with references) of the increase in plant tolerance to heat and drought stress with elevated levels of CO2 and point out the deserts greening.
You could then use the top paragraphs from http://www.bread.org/hunger/global/
“The world is facing a hunger crisis unlike anything it has seen in more than 50 years.
925 million people are hungry.
Every day, almost 16,000 children die from hunger-related causes.
That’s one child every five seconds.
There were 1.4 billion people in extreme poverty in 2005.
And if you wanted to hammer home the point start a counter for the rest of the telethon incrementing every 5 seconds. Then ask: “Why are we spending trillions of dollars on a threat based solely on computer models that are consistently incorrect?
Good news Anthony.
Piers Corbyn has already been mentioned but not as a recommendation. I recommend him.
I also commend Ian Plimer to you.