Uh oh, "…organized and deeply committed environmental activism has long been an important part of the UNFCCC process…"

Maybe this is why the US bailed out of the UNFCCC “Green Climate Fund” this week.The science has been “McKibbenized” for quite some time.

Email 340.txt

date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 11:13:20 -0500

from: “Tom Jacob” <Tom.Jacob@USA.dupont.com>

subject: REFLECTIONS ON THE HAGUE…

to: … schellnhuber@pik-potsdam.de… jonathan.pershing@iea.org, RKinley@unfccc.int, …m.hulme@uea.ac.uk…pachuri@teri.res.in…

munasinghe@worldbank.org…

In The Hague, we saw for the first time organized disruption of the conduct of negotiation and publicly staged confrontations. While organized and deeply committed environmental activism has long been an important part of the UNFCCC process through major groups suchas NRDC, EDF/ED, WWF and Greenpeace, they have operated within the structure as constructive participants in the policy-setting process, along with industry.

It gets worse:

At The Hague, this “inside” role was supplemented by hundreds of young, relatively naïve demonstrators brought in specifically to energize the environmental presence and confront the process. Even some within the ranks of the more established participants — while disavowing the takeover of the negotiating room — saw fit to publicly offer Minister Pronk and the UNFCCC Secretariate a veiled threat of “Seattle” if the process failed to deliver.

In the context of this resurgence of “environmental fundamentalism” it is also interesting to contrast the dynamics of the final give-and-take between the US and the EU in The Hague.

h/t to Tom Nelson

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Kindly notice the sende is from DuPont. There’s also lots of stuff about Shell and BP Amoco, for instance.

Gail Combs

Thanks tom, that one is a real treasure.
I like this bit too
“…The result of all this is an ever-larger question mark hanging over the Kyoto Protocol, its aggressive (and fast-approaching) targets/timetables and its innovative approaches to tapping the power of the market place…. “
” …its innovative approaches to tapping the power of the market place…. “ [jaw drops]
So WHO the heck wrote this???

THOMAS R. JACOB
Government Affairs Manager, Western Region
DuPont Company
Tom Jacob is responsible for DuPont’s relations with state governments of California and the other Western states. He manages legislative and other activities from a newly established office in Sacramento. His responsibilities extend across the spectrum of DuPont’s science-based business interests. Prior to returning to California in late 2005, Tom spent the previous decade managing DuPont’s involvement with environment-related intergovernmental negotiations, ranging from the World Trade Organization to the World Summit on Sustainable Development. This has included extensive direct involvement with the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and its Kyoto Protocol, the Convention on Biological Diversity, and various chemicals-related treaties and negotiations.
Tom began his DuPont career with the Economics & Policy Division of its
former petroleum subsidiary, Conoco….
http://www.cicc.org/pdf/Jacob_bio.pdf

OH I really hope the Occupy Wall Street crowd gets a load of this one….

Jeff C

When they write the history of the collapse of this house of cards, I hope Tom Nelson’s tireless contribution is remembered. Had the global elites realized the internet’s ability to enable principle-driven individuals it would have been strangled in the crib.

Honest ABE

“Josualdo says:
November 26, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Kindly notice the sende is from DuPont. There’s also lots of stuff about Shell and BP Amoco, for instance.”
Yes, the industry contacts have been very interesting. BP has been a supporter of carbon trading which could conceivably make oil more competitive than coal when it comes to energy generation.
DuPont is rather famous for:
1) Getting hemp banned to make nylon competitive
2) Banning CFC’s – their patents had run out and they’d developed far more expensive alternatives. This move put cheap albuterol inhalers out of reach for asthma suffers who live in poverty.
Fine examples of huge corporations twisting public opinion and government regulations in order to make massive profits.

crosspatch

Read 5192.txt and 3862.txt There must some sort of contest going on with 3862 in how many times “radical” can be used in one email:

The seminar series will investigate what it means to be radical in terms of economic strategy? Is it possible to define a radical local economic strategy? Does being radical need a radical movement, and what sorts of movements exist? It will examine experiences of radical local action, local initiatives, coalitions, social movements and previous forms of radical local economic action interacted with processes of large scale economic change in order to draw appropriate lessons from them. Do the lessons of the past still hold? How might we avoid past mistakes?

These two emails seem to use every “progressive” buzzphrase there is. 5192.txt made me groan as it was so stereotypical as to be cliché.
Those are the only two emails in the list from Seyfang but they just ooooze an “activist” bent at UEA.

For skeptics to think this (as we have, for a long time) is one thing, but to read it in an email to some of the insiders is quite another. Jaw on floor!

crosspatch

Gail Combs says:
November 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm

This is all about these companies positioning themselves to take best advantage of a new cash stream that is coming on line with the “green” stuff and attempting to cast potential competitors for that cash in a bad light. They are all going to run around attempting to out “greenwash” each other.
Seriously: have a look a Peter Schweizer’s new book “Throw Them All Out” and then re-read some of these emails in that context and your stomach will begin to churn.
http://www.amazon.com/Throw-Them-All-Peter-Schweizer/dp/0547573146

Foxgoose

Reposted from BH
Climatefellas II (h/t to Maurizio Morabito for the title)
Big Jim has called an emergency meeting of “the family” to discuss the current crisis
Big Jim
“Guys, I gotta tell ya straight, it’s lookin’ real bad – mebbe worse than two years ago. We got the denier mobs crawlin’ all over us, Mad Mikey’s still got the DA on his back, we lost some of our best guys at that shoot out over at Loose Judy’s and now the feds’ve got evidence to bust most of our rackets ”
Mad Mikey
“Don’tworryaboudit boss, I can take care of it. Me and my guys gonna get tooled up, take to the mattresses ‘n waste the lot of ’em. Pow! Splat!, we’ll use the HS secret weapon again – nobody messes with Mad Mikey!”
Big Jim
“ Yeah – that worked brilliantly last time didn’t it Mikey, your secret weapon’s killed more of our guys than the deniers have – that’s why the DA’s getting your cell ready.”
Crazy Kev
“Absolutely – you really screwed up with that HS crap, Mikey, people don’t take it seriously any more. You should see when my guys roll out the Nul Hypothesis – you can see the denier crowd shake with fear.”
Big Jim
“It’s not fear, Kev – they’re laughing at you again. But all youse guys all need to loosen up and get some strategy – listen to Gav – he’s the brains of the outfit.”
Garrotter Gav
(the British consigliere) “ I’ve been talking to Fingers Phil about the British end boss. Things looked bad there for a while – but he thinks he’s getting them under control”
Mad Mikey
“ Shit boss, why to we have to listen to those whingeing, yellow toothed pussies – it’s always the friggin’ same – the Limeys get into wars and we’ve gotta bail em out – it’s 1942 all over again. If it wasn’t for Fingers Phil and his CRU mob the feds would never have got their mitts on all the evidence in the first place.”
Big Jim
“Shuddup Mikey. You gotta understand it’s different over there. They may seem like a bunch of fairies, but Phil ‘n his guys have pulled some pretty sweet rackets in the UK. They don’t have the feds and politicos breathing down their necks all the time like we have. Everybody’s in on the scam there – the Queen’s son heads up the racket, the politicians ‘r all fixed and the feds do what they’re told. Y’know there’s even a protection mob called the Beeb, that Phil works with, who get 200 bucks protection from every citizen – and they don’t even have to work up a sweat smashing their stuff or roughing them up. If they don’t pay up the feds put ’em in jail – how sweet is that! We could learn a lot from the Brits.”
Gav
“Yes, Phil says the Beeb mob and their deal with the Guardianista family are keeping the lid on things over there. There’s a bit of trouble from the Bish’s mob but they’re old guys and they don’t stand a chance against the Beeb, the Guardianistas and the feds combined. We should take a lead from the Brits – keep our heads down, avoid showdowns and quietly take out any deniers we can get near to. That’s how we run things at the Arcy Bar. We let a couple of deniers in, not too many, let them make themselves comfortable until they speak out of turn – then Raypierre the Bear, Evil Eric and the heavy mob just quietly take ’em out back and they’re never seen again.”
Big Jim
“OK, Gav’s right – listen up. We’re gonna play it cool, pretend like nothing happened and send our soldiers around town to pick off the denier mob one at a time. With luck the whole thing’ll blow over before the feds can deal with all the evidence. We’ve got the big Durban meet with all the other families and Capo Patchi next week – we’ll review things there and see if we need to go to the mattresses
Oh – and one more thing, there may be some of you junior guys with wives ‘n kids, who’ve just been on the fringes the rackets, and might be thinking they could make a deal with the feds, clear their conscience and buy themselves some immunity. Weeelll…….. I unnerstand we’re all human and we have our little weaknesses and I really want to help you guys work ’em through – I just want you to know that if anyone feels that way, I’ve arranged for one-to-one counselling, with Raypierre the Bear and Evil Eric, in the basement room – next to the furnace.”

old44

Interesting to note that the income for the non-profit groups such as NRDC, EDF/ED, WWF and Greenpeace amount to$A1,180,000,000 p.a.
Pales into insignificance alongside the sceptics take from Big Oil.
REPLY: If you got the proof, post it here, otherwise do kindly STFU – Anthony

TheGoodLocust says: November 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm […]
2) Banning CFC’s – their patents had run out and they’d developed far more expensive alternatives. This move put cheap albuterol inhalers out of reach for asthma suffers who live in poverty.

Oh! I remember that’s how the ozone hole scare came about! It’s been some time… I wonder who came up with the DDT ban idea, certainly someone with “better” insecticides.

This is ah… pukegenic.

David Ball

Jeff C says:
November 26, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Isn’t it ironic that in the early seventies people were up in arms that the Nixon administration wanted to run coaxial cables to every home in the U.S. The public were very concerned about “big brother”. Strange how it has turned out to be a vehicle for truth against domineering and controlling government and other corruptions ( climate scientists fudgerations). H. R. Haldeman’s plan, if I am not mistaken, and interrupted by “Watergate”.

old44 says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Interesting to note that the income for the non-profit groups such as NRDC, EDF/ED, WWF and Greenpeace amount to$A1,180,000,000 p.a.
Pales into insignificance alongside the sceptics take from Big Oil.

Yeah, Anthony’s private jet is the envy of us all.
🙂

Dave

Ah, Climategate II, the gift that keeps giving…

Jeff C says:
November 26, 2011 at 1:47 pm

Had the global elites realized the internet’s ability to enable principle-driven individuals it would have been strangled in the crib.

Rarely has a truer word been said!

This whole green fund and AGW business is and has never been about anything else but politics. When you overplay your hand and/or become a political (read that reelection) liability, the politicians will cut you off. I know most of you thought it was about science and egos. Nope, never was either. It was always about picking or riding the right house. The rats started abandoning the ship with CG 1, I suspect it will become a stamped in the very near future.

Scarface

Dave says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:32 pm
“Ah, Climategate II, the gift that keeps giving…”
Very true, but the silence about it in the MSM is unreal. Are they in shock or not impressed?
Or…. in denial?

The bleating sheep climate radicals need to get real jobs, after they bathe.

Jimmy Haigh

Oh what delicious… is it irony? The Occupy Wall Street mob are unwitting tools of the 1%.

crosspatch

I don’t think people yet realize the extent to which UNELECTED bureaucrats are responsible for creating the regulations under which they live and work. Some Committee of the UN creates international guidelines that some department of the national government adopts and makes national policy that some state/provincial department implements at the local level and not a single piece of legislation has passed through a branch of government responsible to voters.
People, your elected government is becoming meaningless. In too many cases, The Department of Red Tape is not only tasked with creating and implementing regulations, it is also tasked with enforcement of its own regulations without any interference from a body representing the people in the decision.

Bob Diaz

I like the way Futurama said it:

crosspatch

Are they in shock or not impressed?
Or…. in denial?

They are hoping that if they “deprive the story of oxygen” that it will die out and go away. Also, they are probably having trouble putting things in a way that the average person would understand in a 30 second blurb during the top of the hour news on the traffic station.

Al Gore's Holy Hologram

‘Insider roles’
‘Staged protests’
‘Young naive activists’ used as useful idiots.
And it’s right there for the media to report.

kwik

from: dupont
to: pik-potsdam…iea….unfccc……uea……teri…..worldbank
The “democratic” process at work….

Mooloo

TheGoodLocust says:
DuPont is rather famous for:

2) Banning CFC’s – their patents had run out

The meme that never dies! Sadly for you, it is total bollocks.
Patents last for 20 years maximum (usually much less) and the important CFC patents ran out in the 50s or before. At very best DuPont had a process patented, but those are easily reverse engineered, so the patents are mostly ego for the scientists.
I challenge you to find and list here the patents DuPont had that ran out just at the time of the CFC scare. The Patent Office is searchable on-line. You should have no problem. (Except they aren’t there, of course.)

Dave L.

Don’t forget about the carbon pioneer … Enron.

DesertYote

DuPont? That would not be Montreal Protocol DuPont, now would it?

DesertYote

Mooloo
November 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm
###
A rather moot point, as they did have patents on products that no one wanted because of cheaper non patented alternatives.

crosspatch

Hehe, have a look at 4626.txt
Bradley doesn’t hide his political leanings at all and Fred Singer doesn’t think too highly of it (as would be expected).

View from the Solent

“Is the global warming scare the greatest delusion in history?”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8917737/Is-the-global-warming-scare-the-greatest-delusion-in-history.html#disqus_thread
Spellling it out. Finishes with :
“This is no longer science worthy of the name. As I wrote when the first Climategate emails appeared in 2009, the global warming scare is far and away the greatest scientific scandal of our generation. When we then contemplate the insanity of the measures the politicians have imposed on us in consequence, we know we are looking at a collective flight from reality which has no precedent in the history of the world.”

H.R.

I’m runnig out of barf bags. Anyone else having that problem?

Stephen Wilde

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2066240/Second-leak-climate-emails-Political-giants-weigh-bias-scientists-bowing-financial-pressure-sponsors.html
“Climategate scientists DID collude with government officials to hide research that didn’t fit their apocalyptic global warming5,000 leaked emails reveal scientists deleted evidence that cast doubt on claims climate change was man-made
Experts were under orders from US and UK officials to come up with a ‘strong message’
Critics claim: ‘The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering’
Scientist asks, ‘What if they find that climate change is a natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us all'”
The MSM is starting to work out the implications.

ldd

Thank you “View from the Solent” for that link!
Kudos to Christopher Booker at Telegraph.co.uk.
Finally someone in the media is picking this up.

crosspatch

Oh, the drivel!

The Tynall Centre is a proposed integrated research programme on climate change research located at the world-renowned School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia. It is a consortium of ten research organisations covering the science, renewable technology, economic modelling and political analysis of climate change adaptation and integration. If successful the Centre will be funded by a joint grant from the three principal Research Councils, The Natural Environment Research Council, the Engineering and Physical Research Council, at the Economic and Social Research Council. The collaborating institutions include the University of Cambridge, Southampton Oceanography Centre, Cranfield University, Science Policy Research Unit at Sussex, the University of Manchester Institute for Science and Technology, and the Universities of Leeds and Sheffield.
The Tyndall Centre aims progressively to assist the human family and its leaders to understand more comprehensively the causes and consequences of climate change, across the globe, and at all points of human existence. To achieve this, the Centre will: (list of “progressive” claptrap) including “the technology, economics and politics of decarbonisation”

From 2052.txt

crosspatch

“They’ll kill us all”

Isn’t exactly accurate. It is from 1682.txt from Tommy Wils’ personal gmail account to a U. Arizona mailing list (paydirt????)

Rules, bible, authority? This is the wrong rhetorics. If we claim that established science (we) is the and the only access to knowledge or truth, we become quite arrogant or even tyrannical. About creationists: I don’t have any trouble with people believing that God created the world if that
helps them facing their existential life questions (anyway I don’t know whether science can ever say more about metaphysics than that it doesn’t exist, based on the assumption that what cannot be perceived by the senses is not real). About climate change: the problem with people believing that
it is a lie are dangerous if it turns out that we are right. Solution: scientists talk about probabilities, not about truth or knowledge (read some postmodern philosophers). I think we have to ‘teach’ society that and how to deal with it – see my Ethiopia example.
As science is not neutral but based on numerous assumptions, we cannot just stand aside as ‘knowledge producers’. We are part of society, we have the duty to be humble, explain our assumptions and results in a realistic and understandable way and to put it into a broader context.
“Hey, forest decline was a stupid lie, so climate change must be too.” What if climate change appears to be just mainly a multidecadal natural fluctuation? They’ll kill us probably…
Back to McIntyre: what to do? Get away from the YES and NO camp, find the humble, middle road. There is a passage in the bible: if someone hits you on your cheek, turn him your other cheek…
Tommy

crosspatch

That’s a dendro list, by the way. Not likely to be all that interesting.

Myrrh

Back to McIntyre: what to do? Get away from the YES and NO camp, find the humble, middle road. There is a passage in the bible: if someone hits you on your cheek, turn him your other cheek…
Not a humble response, but a teaching from Jesus on taking a stand for equality.
Roman soldiers had the right to hit the subjugated nationals, but no further, typically a backhander which is as dismissive as you can get – by turning the other cheek this move becomes impossible.
The other example of ‘carrying a load for a mile and offering to carry it two’ – again Roman soldiers were allowed to order the subjugated to carry the soldier’s packs, but only for one mile. The offer to carry it for two is again a stand for human dignity – with the added frisson that the soldier can’t accept – he’s the one bound by their laws.
Jesus was an Anarchist. Anarchia meaning without a head, i.e., without another with authority over one. See Matthew, Mark and Luke.

kim2ooo

old44 says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Interesting to note that the income for the non-profit groups such as NRDC, EDF/ED, WWF and Greenpeace amount to$A1,180,000,000 p.a.
Pales into insignificance alongside the sceptics take from Big Oil. ” ]
You’ll been spoutin’ this for years. But you can’t seem to backup this claim.
Put your big girl panties on – and stop playin’ in doo – doo.

Frank K.

old44 says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm
“Interesting to note that the income for the non-profit groups such as NRDC, EDF/ED, WWF and Greenpeace amount to$A1,180,000,000 p.a.”
WOW!! That’s a LOT of money, considering these organizations don’t make things or, in fact, do anything worthwhile. Exactly, what are their “products” anyhow? Oh, that’s right…[LOL!].

kim2ooo

Foxgoose says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Reposted from BH
Climatefellas II (h/t to Maurizio Morabito for the title)
Ha ha ha ha……………
But you left out my favorite hit man “da-eraser” Connolley

crosspatch

WOW!! That’s a LOT of money, considering these organizations don’t make things

Oh, but they do make things. They manufacture inefficiency in certain places that make other places that would not be competitive into being more competitive. What they make is market inefficiency in one place in order to cause money to flow in a different direction.
It is much easier to make one place less efficient than it is to make another place more efficient. Sort of like it is easier and takes much lower skill to demolish a building than it takes to design and build one. It is much easier to impede economic activity than it is to stimulate it by active measures. This is all about impeding economic activity in one place so that it flows to a different place.

Mooloo

DesertYote says:
A rather moot point, as they did have patents on products that no one wanted because of cheaper non patented alternatives.

That at least is feasible, though I still haven’t seen these alleged patents.
However DuPont has competitors with serious money. They would fight tooth and nail any change that favoured DuPont over them.
Moreover it took longer to force through the CFC ban than patents last. By the time DuPont won their patents would have expired.

Chris B

Myrrh says:
November 26, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Jesus was an Anarchist. Anarchia meaning without a head, i.e., without another with authority over one. See Matthew, Mark and Luke.
_____________________________
Actually, Jesus [SNIP: Chris, from one theological standpoint you are certainly correct, but theology and religion are one of the topics Anthony prefers we don’t discuss here. We made an exception in another thread and it rapidly got out of hand. Sorry. -REP]

Geo

I wonder if our friend, FOIA would consider dropping an email/day for the next few years or so from the encrypted file…..Kinda like Chinese water torture!! It would certainly keep our friends constantly on their toes, and provide a unique way of getting some attention driven to this ‘travesty’….no way media sources could ignore such a tact.

jeanparisot

old44, if you dont have proof, a post with their address for account recievable would suffice for me.

Chris B

Chris B says:
November 26, 2011 at 8:15 pm
Myrrh says:
November 26, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Jesus was an Anarchist. Anarchia meaning without a head, i.e., without another with authority over one. See Matthew, Mark and Luke.
_____________________________
Actually, Jesus [SNIP: Chris, from one theological standpoint you are certainly correct, but theology and religion are one of the topics Anthony prefers we don’t discuss here. We made an exception in another thread and it rapidly got out of hand. Sorry. -REP]
________________________________
REP, I agree that this is not the place for discussions of theology or religion, such as whether or not Jesus is an anarchist. However, I feel compelled to counter statements about theology or religion that are allowed to be posted, if I don’t agree with them. Perhaps next time I should just respond that I don’t agree, and that theology and religion are best left off this board.
[REPLY: Thank you. -REP]

Gail Combs

Jimmy Haigh says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Oh what delicious… is it irony? The Occupy Wall Street mob are unwitting tools of the 1%.
____________________________
I have been trying to tell them that for YEARS.
Maurice Strong, when he was young, worked for YMCA international. The story goes that he got his inspiration for the elite controlled international NGOs from that.
From Hofstra University law professor Peter Spiro

“Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on particular issues,” notes Peter Spiro. “Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots.” (The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations.)
http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html

Sure looks lie Peter Spiro was correct.

Gail Combs

crosspatch says:
November 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm
I don’t think people yet realize the extent to which UNELECTED bureaucrats are responsible for creating the regulations under which they live and work….
_________________________________
AMEN!
That is the primary reason I am against a large strong centralized government. In the USA the Federal Government has over four million (4,000,000 ) employees.
Just look at what the FDA and USDA did to US farmers with their “Harmonization” to international laws. SEE: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/24/world-bank-global-warming-journals-and-cru/#comment-808354
What most people do not realize is that, at least in the USA, the bureaucrats (or lobbyists) WRITE the actual laws not Congress. (Congress sort of hand waves and tells the bureaucrats to go ahead) They get away with this by “Publishing” the new Regs. in the Federal Register. If there is no large out cry from the public the reg then becomes LAW. In “the 2010 Federal Register was 81,405 pages long” [wiki]
And who runs the bureaucracy??? Why the bankers and large corporations through the corporate/government revolving door. http://www.cptech.org/ip/health/politics/revolvingdoor.html
Between the Astroturf NGOs run on corporate foundation funds, the corporate run bureaucracy and the corporate funded political candidates is it any wonder people say we now live under “Neo-Corporatism” (It is NOT capitalism but the opposite)
Oh and the really nasty part is with REGULATIONS you get fines and told what you can and can not do WITHOUT a jury trial in most cases. It is a complete end run around the Constitution.
I have yet to find ANYWHERE in the Constitution where bureaucrats have been given the right to run our country. I have only found some rather dicey rulings by the Supreme Court.

Gail Combs

Mooloo says:
November 26, 2011 at 3:27 pm
TheGoodLocust says:
DuPont is rather famous for:

2) Banning CFC’s – their patents had run out
The meme that never dies! Sadly for you, it is total bollocks.
Patents last for 20 years maximum (usually much less) and the important CFC patents ran out in the 50s or before. At very best DuPont had a process patented, but those are easily reverse engineered, so the patents are mostly ego for the scientists…..
__________________________________
“Patents last for 20 years maximum (usually much less) …
Sorry that is wrong, in the USA patents go for 17 years and can be renewed for an additional 17 years. At least during the time period of the 1970’s (I was working for a company hassling over a patent at the time)
That means it was a max of 36 years not 20 years.
“The critical DuPont manufacturing patent for Freon (“Process for Fluorinating Halohydrocarbons”, U.S. Patent #3258500) was set to expire in 1979.” WIKI – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorofluorocarbon
Reference given is ^ a b “Ethics of Du Pont’s CFC Strategy 1975–1995”, Smith B. Journal of Business Ethics, Volume 17, Number 5, April 1998, pp. 557–568(12)
So yes it looks like the patent was about to run out.

crosspatch

Sad part is that I feel we are all preaching to the choir here, and the converted don’t need this information so much as the average people do. I fear nobody with the resources to reach the masses in the “push” media will deliver this news to the people as those in that line of work tend to share the “progressive” socialist vision.