It seems there was darned little interest in the Waxman-Markey circus aka “An End of Climate Change Skepticism”. Even one of the scientists speaking, William Chameides aka “The Green Grok” lamented the fact that nobody came. He writes at HuffPo
I’m skeptical that the briefing lived up to its name — “An End of Climate Change Skepticism” — but I’d have to say in the end the event was rather anticlimactic.
He adds:
Perhaps the writing was on the wall from the outset. As we filed into the Longworth House Office Building, we entered a meeting room that looks like what you’ve seen on TV — seats for members of Congress arranged in a U-shape around the elevated dais, the lowly speakers’ table facing our representatives, and behind us ample seating for the 40 or so attendees who watched, including legislative aides, people from non-governmental organizations, and members of the media with cameras a-flashing.
Yes, all the trappings of a high-powered Congressional event with one glaring exception: Seated in the 25 or so chairs along the dais dedicated for our esteemed leaders in Congress were just two representatives, Waxman and Markey. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism — or the beginning of major climate legislation — any time soon.
Ouch. Read the whole post at “The Green Grok“.
If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?
Let me be the first. It wasn’t anti-climactic. It was anti-climatic.
Just take a cold shower.
Suppose they gave a war and nobody came.
Much, I mean… little ado about nothing
Support for the Waxman- Markey “conference” evaporated, just like Waxman’s prediction for the North Pole.
“If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
Ohoh Anthony. Didn’t you know the idea was to KEEP IT QUIET. It’s so much easier to scam the sheeple when they don’t bother to look,listen, and question constantly.
That being said….if you have a conference,and nobody comes,can you claim it on your gubermint tax scammi….errrrrr….allowance??
OT. Following on from yesterday’s revelations that BBC news programs are sponsored by environmental groups, the plot thickens.
http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2011/11/curiouser-and-curiouser.html
I went to the Green Grok site and despite the fact that they have a whole page on “What Does “Grok” Mean and Where Does It Come From?” they don’t seem to grok “grok” at all. They quote from Stranger in a Strange Land and then conclude:
After all, grokking is power.
Riiight. Read the book again, Bill. Here’s a Heinlein quote that you might want to grok a little harder:
“The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number. The latter are surly curmudgeons, suspicious and lacking in altruism. But they are more comfortable neighbors than the other sort.”
“Grok” certainly doesn’t apply to climate change with so much unknown and not understood. And while DC may be strange, a few more chalatans are not strangers to the climate of bipartisan corruption.
“If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
I doubt it. When the politicians don’t respond to stuff like this, its a dead issue, at least in the U.S. for the time being. I’m sure the hard-core misanthropists and the rent seekers will cling to this with all their might, but for the rest……… its over. I’m just wonder what the next excuse for usurping our wealth, land, and liberties will be about. What is the next issue that will threaten human prosperity and advancement? Or will they simply revert back to advocating totalitarian communism?
Not an entire circus, but a few sideshow exhibits. Watch your step on the way out.
Oh, we grok the Greens all right. That’s why there was no interest.
“Lost the will to live” is my review of whatever this was supposed to be. With of course, contributions from the “Usual Suspects” who seem to have predicted the same land surface temperature increase to “about” 0.1 degrees. Do I detect collusion? No, I don’t think so, they are all reputable scientists who I am sure have their, sorry Freudian Slip; I mean the planet’s, best interests at heart.
“Their conclusion [pdf]? Over the past 50 years land-surface temperatures have increased by about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, essentially the same increase calculated by NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), and the UK Met Office Hadley Center and the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (HadCRU), and reported by the IPCC”.
The term “usual suspects” was taken from “Casablanca”; the coolest movie ever made despite the efforts of Uncle Al with “An Inconvenient Truth”.
I wonder how much those only two seated are paid to be so interested in ‘global warming’. Just askin.
{i}”I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism…” {/i} Well that’s good, at least they’re ruling out thought crimes legislation for those who don’t think “appropriately”. For now.
Gawd, the destruction of the desert scrub forest in that clip! Nowadays one would have to have an entire cast of plant wranglers making sure no Yucca were harmed.
Uh….Willie needs fresh batteries if he is worried that the session was anticlimactic.
Maybe the rest of the committee is waiting for the peer reviewed version.
Robert says:
November 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
What!? I only read the book once, soon after it came out, but even now I see this as a sign of severe reading miscomprehension. Perhaps “Know thine enemy,” as in “Grok your enemy,” gives you some extra power to affect the battle, but even that’s a stretch.
Perhaps they should be Green GLOC, what ever that is. (See my previous post elsewhere.)
Markey and Waxman were only looking for someone who supported their positions, no matter how little. Everyone likes to hear views that agrees with theirs. I don’t think Markey and Waxman were totally pleased with Muller saying the issue of man-made warming by CO2 was still a question.
It will be interesting to see how they spin this to make themselves look like they have been right all along.
I spar with Chamides constantly on his blog. He is an unthinking company line toter. And he constantly makes jabs at Anthony, his work, and this site.
As with the 24 hours Gore borefest, no one would know about this, if it wasn’t for you and Lubos.
Seated in the 25 or so chairs along the dais dedicated for our esteemed leaders in Congress were just two representatives, Waxman and Markey. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism —
So, the mighty “Consensus” is against them! And once again Climate Science’s CAGW has been soundly “disproven” by its very own glittering
goldiron pyrite standard. [fool’s gold]“I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism”
…….
WHAT the heck???
How do you end climate skepticism? Send any one who voices their skepticism to ретраининг лагеря? (retraining camps)
Gail Combs says:
November 16, 2011 at 6:29 pm
“I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a Congressional resolution marking the end of climate skepticism”
…….
WHAT the heck???
How do you end climate skepticism? Send any one who voices their skepticism to ретраининг лагеря? (retraining camps)
Uh, Gail, I’m trying to figure out how one would have climate skepticism – I mean, if one is skeptical that we have a climate, I’m not sure they should be going to any camp.
🙂
This is excellent news as a demonstration of air fizzing out of the balloon.
More revealing would be evidence of scant media coverage.
When this tree finally falls in the forest, I expect not a whisper of sound will be heard.
The Carbon Default Swap has gong the way of the Edsel.
Someone tried to outsource Climate Change, but there were no takers.
I am also very skeptical of politicians.
Reminds me of Pelosi’s observation that natural gas is not a fossil fuel.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/24/pelosi-on-natural-gas-fossil-fuel-or-not/
Or Al Gore’s comment on a late night show about the temperature of the interior of earth running into millions of degrees.
Or Obama telling the founder of Continental Oil that we will have car batteries supplying the equivalent of 130 miles per gallon within five years.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-u-s-can-become-the-saudi-arabia-of-oil-by-2020-entrepreneur-says-but-is-obama-listening/
At least Obama has the excuse of relying on a Nobel prize winning ‘scientist’.
[snip]
Robert says:
November 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
“I went to the Green
GrokCrock site”Fixed that for ya!
I went to TheGreenGrok website and have just one question for Bill Chameides: Why the long face?
Dave Springer says:
November 17, 2011 at 7:21 am
[snip]
Whoever you are, I gots just one word to say: PRUDE!
Maybe they need to wax on the malarkey ? (ok sorry, the pun was just too good to resist!)
Thank goodness for global warming, it has been the warmist November for 350 years (according to Met Office tree ring records!
“If it weren’t for WUWT and Climate Depot covering this ahead of time, would it have made a sound in the web forest?”
If a Mann speaks In the forest and there is nobody to hear him, Is he still wrong?
If a Mann speaks in the forest and there is nobody to hear him, is he still wrong?
Obviously, the warmistas don’t grok climate change.