“There’s no longer a shared reality on an issue like climate even though the very existence of our civilization is threatened. People have no idea! … It’s no longer acceptable in mixed company, meaning bipartisan company, to use the goddamn word climate. It is not acceptable. They have polluted it to the point where we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it.”
And that’s just part of the rant. More below plus a collection of news bytes from the past week that all point to Gore’s inability to restart the success of AIT he had in 2005. My personal view is that the battle was lost the moment Gore and his acolytes started trying to link severe weather events (see photo above of Gore pointing to a big mesocyclone aka thunderstorm) with global warming.
August 6th, 2011
Source: Climate Depot
[Climate Depot Comment: ‘This is psychologically healthy development for Gore. He needs to face the reality that despite his film, an Oscar, a Nobel, a compliant shoddy news media, the UN, Hollywood, untold tens of billions of dollars spent, propaganda directed at school kids, and twisted science – the movement Gore helped found, is dying scientifically, politically and economically. It is time to celebrate the utter and complete failure of the sub-prime science of man-made global warming.‘ More analysis on why Gore has failed here.]
Gore: ‘They have polluted it to the point where we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it’
The Failure of Al Gore: Part One
August 6th, 2011
Source: The American Interest
by Walter Russell Mead
It must be as perplexing to his many admirers as it is frustrating to himself that a man of Vice President Gore’s many talents, great skills and strong beliefs is one of the most consistent losers in American politics.
“All political careers end in failure,” said Enoch Powell; Gore has not won an election on his own since his 1990 re-election to the Senate from Tennessee. His 1988 presidential bid ended well short of the nomination. Many observers felt Gore was headed for defeat in a third Senate campaign as the south continued to swing Republican; Clinton’s offer of the vice presidential slot in 1992 gave Gore the opportunity to reach a national audience as his home state cooled. On his own again in 2000, gifted by the departing Clinton with the most bubbliciously expanding economy in American history and a comfortable budget surplus, and insulated from the innuendo and scandal of the Clinton White House by his still-vibrant marriage, he found the elusive road to defeat against a flawed and inexperienced challenger. Tennessee voted for Bush; Florida or no Florida Gore would have gone to the White House if those who knew him longest and best had rallied to his support.
Once out of office, he assumed the leadership of the global green movement, steering that movement into a tsunami of defeat that, when the debris is finally cleared away, will loom as one of the greatest failures of civil society in all time.
August 5th, 2011
Source: UK Met Office
4 August 2011 – Two research papers shed new light on why the upper layers of the world’s oceans have seen a recent pause in warming despite continued increases in greenhouse gases.
The independent studies from the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) and the Met Office show how natural climate variability can temporarily mask longer-term trends in upper ocean heat content and sea surface temperature.
The upper 700 metres of the global ocean has seen a rise in temperature since reliable records began in the late 1960s. However, there has been a pause in this warming during the period from 2003 to 2010. The papers published this week offer explanations for this.
Arctic ‘tipping point’ may not be reached
August 5th, 2011
Source: BBC
Scientists say current concerns over a tipping point in the disappearance of Arctic sea ice may be misplaced.
Danish researchers analysed ancient pieces of driftwood in north Greenland which they say is an accurate way to measure the extent of ancient ice loss.
Writing in the journal Science, the team found evidence that ice levels were about 50% lower 5,000 years ago.
They say changes to wind systems can slow down the rate of melting.
They argue, therefore, that a tipping point under current scenarios is unlikely.
Radical Environmentalists’ Continuing Campaign Against Economic Freedom
August 5th, 2011
Source: The Foundry
Recently, radical environmentalists have waged a campaign to stifle free enterprise and economic freedom. Here are some of their recent skirmishes, ranging from crop destruction in Australia to attacks on toy companies like Lego and Disney:
- Photos of Greenpeace activists destroying an experimental crop of genetically modified (GM) wheat earlier this month in Australia. They apparently decided that they have the right to act lawlessly and destroy work by scientists designed to feed a hungry world. Even The New York Times rebuked Greenpeace’s actions and argued that the GM wheat field destruction “threatens to completely marginalize the group, and presumably will undercut its credibility when it takes stands on other issues, from climate to palm oil.”
- Read the rest of this entry »
Floods of the Upper Midwest United States: A 75-Year History
August 5th, 2011
Source: CO2 Science
Reference
Villarini, G., Smith, J.A., Baeck, M.L. and Krajewski, W.F. 2011. Examining flood frequency distributions in the Midwest U.S. Journal of the American Water Resources Association 47: 447-463.
Background
The authors write that the Upper Midwest United States — consisting of North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin and Illinois — “has been plagued by flooding over the past 100 years,” and they say that “these events are responsible for numerous fatalities and large economic damage (e.g., Changnon, 1997, 1999; Pielke and Downton, 2000; Otto, 2009), in particular over the last two decades, with the 1993 and 2008 floods causing economic losses in excess of one billion dollars.”
August 5th, 2011
Source: CO2 Science
In a Policy Forum article in Science, Buyx and Tait (2011) say that “climate change is predicted to impose increasing harms, in particular on those most disadvantaged,” and they go on to state, in their very next sentence, that “thus, climate change mitigation is a vital common good.”
With this declaration as the starting point of their discussion, the two academics approvingly note that “mandatory targets for introduction and blending of biofuels have been introduced” by both the European Union and the United States, even though, as they acknowledge “there are serious concerns about negative effects on food security, the environment, and the rights of farmers and landholders in developing countries,” after which — using various derivatives of the word ethics some 20-plus times — they strive to make the production and use of biofuels as palliative as possible. But have they not put the cart before the horse in terms of the ethics of biofuels?
Things More Worrisome than AGW: various determinants of human well-being
August 5th, 2011
Source: Climate Change Reconsidered
Reference
by Craig Idso
van Vuuren, D. P., Isaac, M., Kundzewicz, Z. W., Arnell, N., Barker, T. Criqui, P., Berkhout, F., Hilderink, H., Hinkel, J., Hof , A., Kitous, A., Kram, T., Mechler, R., and Scrieciu, S. 2011. The use of scenarios as the basis for combined assessment of climate change mitigation and adaptation. Global Environmental Change 21: 575-591.
This paper summarizes the results of several analyses that investigate the global impacts on various determinants of human well-being, including malaria, agricultural productivity, water stress, sea level rise, and heating and cooling demand through 2100 under a “no climate change” scenario and two “policy” scenarios. The first policy scenario, which serves as the “baseline,” assumes no climate change policies and would increase the global mean temperature by 4 °C above the pre-industrial level by 2100. The second is a Mitigation scenario which would stabilize greenhouse gas concentrations at around 450 ppm CO2-equivalent leading to a 2 °C increase in 2100. Its aim is to assess the effects of an aggressive mitigation policy on the global impacts of climate change.
Pre-Industrial Climate Change and Human Population
August 5th, 2011
Source: Climate Change Reconsidered
Reference
Zhang, D.D., Lee, H.F., Wang, C., Li, B., Zhang, J., Pei, Q. and Chen, J. 2011. Climate change and large-scale human population collapses in the pre-industrial era. Global Ecology and Biogeography 20: 520-531.
According to Zhang et al. (2011), it has long been assumed that “deteriorating climate” — defined as either cooling or warming — “could shrink the carrying capacity of agrarian lands, depriving the human population of sufficient food,” with “population collapses (i.e., negative population growth)” the unavoidable consequence; but they say that “this human-ecological relationship has rarely been verified scientifically,” noting that at the highend of the temperature spectrum, “evidence of warming-caused disaster has never been found.”
AGW and Malaria — IPCC Wrong, Again
August 5th, 2011
Source: Climate Change Reconsidered
Reference
Nkurunziza, H. and Pilz, J. 2011. Impact of increased temperature on malaria transmission in Burundi. International Journal of Global Warming 3: 77-87.
Authors Nkurunziza and Pilz (2011) — a mathematician and a statistician — introduce their study by stating that “malaria is the main public health problem in the area of Burundi,” citing Protopopoff et al. (2007) and the World Health Organization (2005), while further noting that malaria is responsible for some two million clinical cases that result in more than 15,000 deaths each year, including 50% of all hospital deaths of children under five years of age.
Nkurunziza and Pilz then proceed to employ Bayesian Generalized Additive Models (GAMs) to assess the impact of an increase in temperature on malaria transmission, which in addition to monthly maximum and minimum temperature data, utilized monthly rainfall and humidity data, as well monthly malaria morbidity data for the period 1996-2007, all of which were obtained for each province of the country.
Dynamics of the Greenland Icesheet
August 5th, 2011
Source: Climate Change Reconsidered
by Craig Idso
Reference
Sundal, A.V., Shepherd, A., Nienow, P., Hanna, E., Palmer, S. and Huybrechts, P. 2011. Melt-induced speed-up of Greenland ice sheet offset by efficient subglacial drainage. Nature 469: 521-524.
According to Sundal et al. (2011), “fluctuations in surface melting are known to affect the speed of glaciers and ice sheets,” but these authors say that “their impact on the Greenland ice sheet in a warming climate remains uncertain,” citing Meehl et al. (2007), while further noting, in this regard, that “although some studies suggest that greater melting produces greater ice-sheet acceleration (Zwally et al., 2002; Parizek and Alley, 2004),” others have identified a long-term decrease in Greenland’s flow despite increased melting (van de Wal et al., 2008).”
In a study designed to further explore this important subject, and based on data for five different years (1993 and 1995-1998), Sundal et al. used “satellite observations of ice motion recorded in a land-terminating sector of southwest Greenland to investigate the manner in which ice flow develops during years of markedly different melting.” So what did they find?
August 5th, 2011
Source: Climate Change Reconsidered
by Craig Idso
Reference
Vecchi, G.A. and Knutson, T.R. 2011. Estimating annual numbers of Atlantic hurricanes missing from the HURDAT database (1878-1965) using ship track density. Journal of Climate 24: 1736-1746.
In a recent paper published in Climate Research, Trenberth (2011) compares the projections of state-of-the-art climate models with what is known about the real world with respect to extreme meteorological events related to atmospheric moisture, such as precipitation and various types of storm systems, as well as subsequent extreme consequences such as droughts, floods and wind damage. So what does he find?
69% Say It’s Likely Scientists Have Falsified Global Warming Research
August 5th, 2011
Source: Rasmussen Report
The debate over global warming has intensified in recent weeks after a new NASA study was interpreted by skeptics to reveal that global warming is not man-made. While a majority of Americans nationwide continue to acknowledge significant disagreement about global warming in the scientific community, most go even further to say some scientists falsify data to support their own beliefs.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of American Adults shows that 69% say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data in order to support their own theories and beliefs, including 40% who say this is Very Likely. Twenty-two percent (22%) don’t think it’s likely some scientists have falsified global warming data, including just six percent (6%) say it’s Not At All Likely. Another 10% are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here .)
Things More Worrisome than AGW: Heat waves pushes Texas power grid into red zone
August 5th, 2011
Source: Reuters
The Texas power grid operator has scrambled this week to meet soaring electricity demand in the face of a brutal heat wave, and residents of the second most populous U.S. state are one power plant shut-down away from rolling blackouts.
Power demand for Electric Reliability Council of Texas, Inc, or ERCOT, which runs the power grid for most of the state, hit three consecutive records this week as Texans cranked up air conditioners to escape one of the hottest summers on record.
The grid operator on Thursday cut power to some big industrial users, and businesses and households face a repeat of the rolling blackouts they faced in February, when a bitter cold snap interrupted power supplies.
h/t to Bob Ferguson, SPPI
http://coloradoindependent.com/95450/al-gore-calls-b-s-on-corporate-polluters
The rumble is barely audible, but it will be deafening when it all comes crashing down.
“It’s no longer acceptable in mixed company, meaning bipartisan company, to use the goddamn word climate. It is not acceptable. They have polluted it to the point where we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it.”
This is a perfect example of a politician who thinks the other guy is always wrong. It’s the “why won’t the other guy give in ?” mentality. We used to call that sort of behavior (i.e. not giving in) as a “principled stand,” but now their “evil” or “terrorists.” The corollary to this is “bipartisanship” when it means the “other guy finally agrees with you.”
well damn………………………;-)
It’s really inconvenient when people start asking questions………
Al Gore made a fortune spreading this false religion called CAGW. He can not really believe that “the science is settled”, so he must be as big a liar as when I voted against him in Tennessee.
The best he could do for mankind is to go to one of his very expensive houses and just stay there.
Do temper tantrums cause global warming?
/sarc
You see these signs of desperation everywhere in the pro-AGW community these days. They are lashing out indiscriminately and letting their anger and frustration show as they can see that their edifice is crumbling.
I have to take exception to Mr. Mead’s statement: “On his own again in 2000, gifted by the departing Clinton with the most bubbliciously expanding economy in American history …” The US economy was in a mild recession when Clinton left office, although it wasn’t realized for a few months because Clinton’s administration had been cooking the books. The numbers are always revised after they’re released. The revisions shortly after Clinton left office were off the scale.
I am not really aux fait with Gore or what he means to you Americans – but to me he just comes across as some horrendous political jerk milking all and sundry for whatever he can get, be it money, fame or ‘appreciation’…….Hmm, so that’s a typical politician then!
Might I disagree Anthony? In my opinion Gore is still a massive winner – he has convinced the UN and virtually every government worldwide – in fact your previous story on the Australian Government and their green agenda is going ahead and virtually all scientific bodies active today are 100% on board with the Gore program. Not to mention that almost every media outlets in the world are on board with the Gore program. Go in any store and those places are crawling with “green” schemes of every description under the sun even if only to take advantage of the green monopoly eco-fanatics have in place – every major company world wide is on-board with their green nonsense and few politicians are courages enough to buck the green machine. Politicians are terrified of the eco-fanatics. Only a few Republican are courages enough to stand against the green machine – and at this stage even Romney has buckled to the eco-pressure and he’s the leading Republican contender at this point in time.
Gore might be losing support is some public opinion but we don’t know how solid the numbers at this point in time worldwide – however he who controls the purse strings gets to make the decisions that will effect us all – see Australia or the Brits or perhaps the EU. I’d like to think we’re winning but until and unless our side has better access to public discourse outlets we’re still a minor player in the game if at all in the game.
Searching for the citations I remembered for my earlier post, I found this by Robert A Cook, PE, which seemed to be a name familiar as a frequent poster on here: http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/votefraudstats.htm
I wonder if he’s the same. At any rate, people need to get over thinking Bush stole the election in Florida. He won despite massive voter fraud for Gore in Palm Beach and surrounding counties.
There’s that abused word “pollution” again, Al. You can’t get at science by compromise, averaging the hypotheses, or by consensus. And it is nobody’s responsibility to agree with you.
I, for one, am able to find only two principles that Al Gore’s climate hysteria stands on: misanthropy and anthropolgical myopia. Al will save the world with the knowledge that the world revolves around us and we are evil.
Two more explanations for “the missing heat”. Although they deny it, they are contradictory. One explanation is the heat is radiated back in space. This seems somewhat similar to what Dr Spence found. Of course it means that there was no serious CO2 heat buildup to begin with. The heat is from the sun, not the atmospheric CO2. So they have merely confirmed that the circa 1998 temperature ramp up was likely solar in origin. In essence, they have confirmed that there is no CO2 AGW.
The second theory goes back to hidden heat reservoir. Now the reservoir is found in the infamous -700 meters to -2000 meter zone. And I will surmise it is lurking there waiting to attack methane ice so as to release catastrophic global warming, or so we will be told.The problem with this hypothesis is that not only is it thermodynamically awkward, but it is extraordinarily easy to confirm or refute.
Geez… Al keeps running into inconvenient truths! The poor guy lost huge sums ($100 million?) on a ponzi carbon trading scheme and is probably really struggling to maintain all of his energy gobbling mansions around the country. Pile that on top of his home state of Tennessee voting for ‘The Other Guy’ in his failed presidential attempt years back, his wife subsequently reaching her own personal ‘Tipper point’ and dumping him, and you have the recipe for an irrational person with a reeeeaalllllyyy fragile ego. It is painful to watch, as physical reality keeps refuting the irrational belief systems of folks like him, but absolutely essential to restore fact based rational decision making as the foundation of our global economies.
In fine irony, it is his AGW oxen that is being ‘gored’…..
Wil ,
Give it some time . If the world’s economic , social and political problems continue on their present course the climate issue will likely fall by the wayside . There are far more pressing matters to deal with . That said , I thoroughly enjoyed Mr. Mead’s piece .
I don’t like it either, but Wil is right.
Although not usually an optimist when it comes to the on-going battle with Gore and his acolytes, I have to disagree with Wil above.
I have long been outspoken among my colleagues (I work in the environmental field) about the false confidence in the science of AGW. Over the past year I have seen a shift in how my words are received. People who used to (metaphorically) cover their ears and chant “la la la la la la”, now listen. In the face of much cooler weather and huge snowpacks here in the PNW, even the most strident ideologues have been forced to reconsider their positions.
The shift is not yet complete. Government is still wedded to policies that waste billions on AGW. But the peak has passed and the roller coaster of public opinion is just beginning to descend.
Hang on tight. I expect it will much more interesting.
It is saddening that the message which Mr Gore has been communicating so ably is not perceived by more people. I’m sure he feels this sadness, as do many of us. He has accurately reported the findings of mainstream scientists, as have many others, and I’m sure he would like to see more action being taken by North American governments. Actions to curtail CO2 emissions and develop alternative energy sources are evident in other parts of the world, notably Europe, and perhaps part of this has resulted from Mr Gore’s efforts.
It servers no useful purpose to be slagging Gore. He is not your enemy.
Hugh Pepper,
What color is the sky on your planet?? A judge ruled that Gore’s movie was filled with misinformation. He is simply a self-serving snake oil salesman, and he’s mad because he’s losing customers.
“Mark my words on this: we became the greatest country on earth because we made better decisions than any other nation,” he continued. “And we made better decisions … .”
And we made better decisions when we didn’t elect him as President. Gore is still a loser and will always be a loser.
Hugh Pepper
7% of American still believe Elvis is alive as well. Now the latest polls indicate that as many as 34% say that they think UFOs are real. January 2011 Rasmussen Energy Update, fully one-third, 33%, “see AGW as a Very Serious problem.” Notice more people believe in UFOs than Gore? To me that’s not very able communicating on Gore’s part when more folks believe in aliens, is it?
How could there be a shared reality if Gore insists on living in a dystopian fantasy land? Who else would want to share it with him but the self-loathing?
Hugh Pepper says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:57 am
“Actions to curtail CO2 emissions and develop alternative energy sources are evident in other parts of the world, notably Europe, and perhaps part of this has resulted from Mr Gore’s efforts. ”
Yep. We developed that. We pay about 16bn EUR a year in subsidy in Germany alone and it works some of the time. To make sure we can still run our industry and TVs we run all the old fossil fuel power plants in parallel and build some more.
It has one advantage, though: Most people really love it because it gives them the feeling that something is being done. And it kills less birds than our cats do.
I think its time for another Josh cartoon: showing Al tramping in a blizzard in Tennessee in September with a placard over his shoulder “damning climate” (all those cartoon * # symbols) and the lack of a “shared reality” on global warming.
Hugh Pepper says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:57 am
What, pray, are you talking about? He’s a snake oil salesman.
“Once out of office, he assumed the leadership of the global green movement, steering that movement into a tsunami of defeat that, when the debris is finally cleared away, will loom as one of the greatest failures of civil society in all time.”
This is well said. The liberal intelligentsia and their leaders, from Al Gore to the NYT’s to at a guess 80 percent of college educated Democrats are in this thing up to their necks. At a certain point, and I’m starting to believe that point is fast approaching, these people are going to have to admit that there are “doubts” after all. The hand-wringing and the self-analysis (“how could we have been so wrong?”) will be a thing to behold. There will be plenty of finger-pointing as well. If anyone wonders why establishment climate scientists are so hostile, wonder no more. Michael Mann et al are increasingly desperate to fend off the annihilation of their careers and reputations that’s now all but inevitable. These are smart, if self-deluded people. With every new paper that casts legitimate doubt on the orthodoxy, their panic levels rise. You might even see some suicides.
Thank God for blogs like this, and for the individuals behind them. IN the fullness of time, they’ll rightly be called heroes.
Unfortunately, for now, Wil’s invocation of the “Golden Rule” – “he who has the gold, makes the rules” – is still probably a fair assessment of the situation. ‘Twas ever so.
On the other hand, though, I think things are changing, if slowly. The Western economic system is pretty much in the position of one of those cartoon characters who has run off a cliff, but not looked down yet. We have recently heard that about 7 out of 10 Americans now doubt that “scientists” are always dispassionate, honest individuals. We hear of the convoys in Australia … there are signs that we are reaching what Churchill called “the end of the beginning”, at least. Perhaps even we staid Brits will begin to stir once more of us realise that we’re currently paying over twice as much for our “electric” as we were ten years ago, the figure racking ever upward.
Let’s hope that Gore loses it more often. It means we’re getting our message through, and that more of the public are aware that the AGW Emperor has no clothes. It’s a sort of linguistic equivalent of the old (and most likely apocryphal) Chinese rules for debate: violence is freely allowed, but whoever strikes the first blow loses the argument. Keep on cussin’, Al, keep calling us seven shades of sh**, feel free. And meanwhile we’ll keep up our modest requests for any evidence at all to prop up your, er, arguments, and we’ll smile nicely while we’re doing it. 🙂
Hugh Pepper says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:57 am
“…Actions to curtail CO2 emissions and develop alternative energy sources are evident in other parts of the world, notably Europe, and perhaps part of this has resulted from Mr Gore’s efforts.”
Take AlGore… please.
What alternative energy sources are evident in other parts of the world, notably Europe, that we don’t also have right here in the good Ol’ US of A?
Well Smokey… Micheal Mann was also found to be innocent.
Hockey Stick’ Climate Scientist Found Innocent of All Charges.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/07/02/hockey-stick-climate-scientist-innocent-mann/#ixzz1UHFKgPWp
And we made better decisions when we didn’t elect him as President. Gore is still a loser and will always be a loser.”
[snip off topic – your comment will start a whole different argument unrelated to the issue at hand ~mod]
Well so were OJ and Casey; what’s your point?
If Gore wants to be taken seriously I guess he shouldn’t have bought that gosh-darned luxurious Montecito beachfront pad after he told us to expect monster sea level rises if we didn’t go back to living in caves, should he…
To paul. Temper tauntrum does not cause global warming. Only CO2 can. However, global warming will cause a sharp rise in global average temper tauntrums, according to our newest computer models.
”A group of six of Mann’s Penn State colleagues found him innocent of 3 out of 4 charges on February 3, but the investigative panel requested a deeper, more thorough look into whether his conduct deviated from standard scientific practice.”
From the FNC article
Foxes clearing the one who has feathers on his lips…
If Gore wants to be taken seriously I guess he shouldn’t have bought that gosh-darned luxurious Montecito beachfront pad after he told us to expect monster sea level rises if we didn’t go back to living in caves, should he…”
Sceptic…. Gore will be dead before the sea levels become a problem. So what’s the problem?
Gore is an authoritarian parasite who has committed betrayal on the world, his own country and the American people for political power and financial gain.
I think he’s a monster and a disgrace to humanity.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Al Gore is worse than a snake oil salesman, he’s a Southern Tent Revivalist. He flunked out of theology school, but apparently not before learning about preaching the word. You see younger versions of him on the street corners in the south, holding a Bible in one hand and screaming Biblical verses. Gore isn’t stupid, look at Scientology and tell me that he’s not using it as a business model.
Gore failed miserably as a politician. It is as a propagandist that he has found his forte. He has probably influenced received attitudes more than any who went before him and that influence has extended worldwide. What disturbs me most is that his success (if that is the word for it) seems likely to be emulated by other wealthy but failed politicians in the future. I am not happy with the thought that my great grandchildren will have to live in a world of budding Al Gores.
Looks like the beginning of a preference cascade. Even though media and many governments are on board with Gore’s bad science, the fact that he’s losing it will get more and more attention. The more desperate they get, the less credible they will look. I think things are swinging back to better science, but we still have a ways to go. The sillier they act, the faster the collapse goes. I think more and more people are coming to the idea that they have a right to know the science.
The biggest sign of bad science is not being willing to engage in debate with one’s opponents. And you can’t win if you won’t let people see the magic that let you come to the conclusion you came to. Which is even worse when you consider the economic damage they want to do to to fix a problem that may not even be there. I think Big Green is worse than Big Oil. Big oil is at least providing value for the money they get. I’m thinking Gore will become a bigger laughing stock as time moves on. He laughed all the way to the bank, but karma may play turnabout with him.
Before the presentation of Mr Gore and his film ‘An inconvenient truth’ in 2007 I had already read the book ‘State of fear’ (2004) of Michael Crichton. In this book an American environment organisation (Greenpeace ?) ask a marketingconsultant how they must introduce a worldwide action around the theme ‘global warming’ with a rise of the global temperature of 2-5 degrees. After investigation they advise them not to use the rise in temperature as the eye-opener, because people cannot imagine much by such a rise. No, they must take ‘severe weather events’ as a central theme of global warming. They happen from time to time all over the world and people has a bad memory of such events in the past, so global warming can easily be accepted as the reason.
From that time I was interested in this subject and was wondering how long this fairy-tale would last.
Wait you here a moment, what do you mean he cussed during a presentation, he is the bloody demagogue curse. :p
Wil says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:22 am
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Think Gore is a winner? Look at what the green agenda has done. Wasted billions, If rational energy and political policies were followed would the US have a downgraded credit rating, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Canada and England are are suffering from “green” energy policies that are sucking the life out of our economies – it isn’t alone but it is a big contributor – and perhaps it has a “forcing” affect. I am all for pollution control – I’d make littering a $10,000 fine but the green power thing is just dumb. I recycle and do most of the things a responsible person should do but Gore – total hypocrite.
Brian, the problem is that Gore doesn’t practice what he preaches. That makes him a hypocrite. And having read the mendacious, post normal
scienceeasily refuted CAGW tripe that he laughingly presents as “fact” contained in Climate of Denial, I have a big problem taking seriously anything he says on the subject.What’s your problem?
And just who polluted the topic of climate?
The profiteer whose movie made millions?
GE making billions and paying no taxes?
those who hid the decline?
hunter
What the hell is wrong with GE making billions and paying no taxes as long as they’re obeying the law? Take away the corporations and what have you got? Somalia.
“I am not one of those who thinks him a hypocrite; I think rather that he shares an illusion common amongst the narcissistic glitterati of our time: that politically fashionable virtue cancels private vice.”
This is the problem with our narcissistic glitterati and those who think like them: they can’t admit to seeing hypocrisy when it’s in front of them. Instead, they calm themselves with an illusion to make them believe it’s not really there.
It it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, etc.
mike g says:
“What the hell is wrong with GE making billions and paying no taxes as long as they’re obeying the law? ”
Normally nothing would be considered wrong. However, in the case of GE you have a company that supports an administration that demagogues corporate taxes and profits incessantly particularly those of “big oil” You have the CEO or chairman of the boardof GE, D. Immelt, serving as a so-called jobs “czar” in the administration. You also have GE owning major news media outlets, NBC & MSNBC, which are incessantly calling for higher taxes on the “rich” and on “corporations” while acting as a defacto PR outlet for the administration. It has an unsavory appearance of duplicity and hypocrisy on the grandest of scales.
I looked up the topic “GE pays no taxes” and found that, lo and behold, the CEO of GE, Jeffrey Immelt, has been advising Obama on taxes and business in general.
With any other president, there might just be an investigation going on as to why such a close chum of the Prez is getting such a break (though to be fair, they are following the tax code as is written). I can (once again) only imagine the vitriol that would be in the press if a good ol’ oil buddy of GWB hadn’t paid taxes on his billions of profit in two years.
Regardless, what polluted the topic of climate was the blatantly unscientific behavior of the team et al. Once I heard Jones’ “Why should I give you my data when all you’ll try to do is find something wrong with it,” I knew we weren’t talking science any more. Suppressing rival papers; declaring a “consensus,” as though that’s how science is done; engaging in ad hominem attacks: none of these things is how science is done, nor even how skeptics are dealt with. It’s certainly not how the biologists deal with the still-ongoing bother of creationists they have hanging around badgering them.
Wait, the same guy who thinks we shouldn’t be allowed to buy music with naughty words in it* issues actual profanities when giving a science-like talk?
*reminder: the warning labels were a compromise to keep Al & Tipper’s PMRC from lobbying to outright ban the sale of naughty music. Funny how having the wife of a sitting senator as a professional lobbyist can get hearings that directly contravene the spirit (if just skirting against the actual letter) of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Wil says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:22 am
He gets traction with government officials in the US and abroad because they see how his government-imposed regulatory markets can make them and their friends rich. Why else would PoW Charles give Al G the time of day? Al’s burning up not because of AGW, but because his carbon credits are not going to be worth much soon.
Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk. – Curly Howard
[snip we don’t discuss HAARP on WUWT, take that junk someplace else ~mod]
What Wil says is the precise reason the collapse of empire and credit of the European royals will be so richly received. ” he who controls the purse strings” as if right out oif the mouth of satan himself. Gore got a ‘D’ in bonehead science in college. It shows his ability to dodge reality and accept credentials has a past and as long as he can, he will continue to do both, no matter how lowly his Patron.
mike g says (August 6, 2011 at 10:28 am): “At any rate, people need to get over thinking Bush stole the election in Florida.”
As I recall, Bush won every recount both official (of course) and unofficial, including one conducted the way “Recount” Gore’s lawyers requested.
Amazon has resisted pressure to join some ubiquitous Carbon Counting Committee. (Although it has pioneered responsible green measures, like simplified and minimalistic packaging–something that it has successfully encouraged its partners to adopt.)
“They have polluted it to the point where we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it.”
In other words, knowledge is pollution. Always fun when totalitarians let their real thoughts slip out in unguarded moments.
Gore is only the tip of the iceberg: Maurice Strong and all the UN bureaucrats, the scientists who played their part in this, the politicians, activists, bankers, philanthropists, media, publishing groups who have set up support for this global disinformation are guilty of misleading and wasting resources. August 24, 1572…
“…even though the very existence of our civilization is threatened. ”
Oh come on! Not even the absolute worst predictions of the IPCC or Jim Hansen come anywhere close to the end of civilization. He used to be a moron, now he’s just pathetic.
Mike.
We have a long way to go before we can even start to reverse the damage caused by climateidiots. They have been filling our children’s heads with nonsense and promoting self loathing for decades..
Twice in the last few months, I have channel-surfed into children’s TV shows promoting environmental activism, and saw one teenager saying to a group of youngsters “you can smell the CO2 from the factories” and another teen saying “a dome of CO2 is killing the trees”, with apparent full approval by the show’s director(s).
We have barely scratched the surface of the problem, and I fear its effects will likely worsen before we ever get a chance to start solving our economic problems that our lack of progress has already brought. In the 70’s and 80’s, we developed the technology to cleanly burn our most abundant energy resource, coal. In the ’90’s we gave that technology to China.
For two decades, we have built virtually nothing, and have crippled our industrial base to the point that building new plants now, likely means sourcing them from China! .
If we ever wake up, I hope it isn’t too late (if its not already) to recover.
I think I agree with this idea: “They lost it when they started blaming extreme weather on global warming” At that point, every hot, cold, wet, dry, snow, ice and drought, was due to global warming. Even the most ignorant or obtuse member of the public can see the ridiculousness of this approach.
PaulH says @August 6, 2011 at 9:59 am Do temper tantrums cause global warming?
LOL VBG
F. Ross says:
August 6, 2011 at 11:43 am
“What, pray, are you talking about? He’s a snake oil salesman.”
Yes – and a Nobel Prize* winning snake-oil salesman! I think it’s hilarious that the Nobel committee gave him HALF of the Nobel Prize ca$h and the IPCC had to split the remainder! LOL!!
* Note that their prize was NOT in the physics or any other science category…even the Nobel wouldn’t go that far…
A lousy world wide economy hasn’t helped Algore either ; It has been my observation that people tend to worry about non-issues (such as AGW) when things are otherwise going well; when there are real problems , like high unemployment, a weak economy, defaulting on debt, etc., issues like AGW get put to the back burner or moved off the stove completely.
I think that the Tennessean would have been told by his preacher, as a child, to “beware false prophets”. Algor seems to have misheard. He seems to have heard “Become false prophets and reap false profits”. His preacher’s admonition was correct.
UK Sceptic says:
August 6, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Brian, the problem is that Gore doesn’t practice what he preaches. That makes him a hypocrite. And having read the mendacious, post normal science easily refuted CAGW tripe that he laughingly presents as “fact” contained in Climate of Denial, I have a big problem taking seriously”
anything he says on the subject.”
There is no need to shoot the messenger UK… The naysayers are so focused on Al Gore instead of worrying about the message and the danger the world is in unless we reduce fossil fuels.
Here are just a few of the negative impacts of Global Warming:
-Decreasing human water supplies, increased fire frequency, ecosystem change and expanded deserts (Solomon 2009) http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/01/28/0812721106.full.pdf+html
-Decline in rice yields due to warmer nighttime minimum temperatures (Peng 2004, Tao 2008). http://www.pnas.org/content/101/27/9971.abstract
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V8W-4R2Y42W-1&_user=10&_coverDate=01%2F07%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1178072838&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=31de28d5489f42f6a5e7b7bca606d067
-Encroachment of shrubs into grasslands, rendering rangeland unsuitable for domestic livestock grazing (Morgan 2007) http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2007/2007GL031764.shtml
-Decreasing water supply to the Murray-Darling Basin (Cai 2008)http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2008/2008GL033390.shtml
-Increased deaths to heatwaves – 5.74% increase to heatwaves compared to 1.59% to cold snaps (Medina-Ramon 2007)http://oem.bmj.com/content/64/12/827.short
-Increased heat stress in humans and other mammals (Sherwood 2010)http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2010/04/26/0913352107.abstract?sid=511111d6-a7df-4e55-843d-a751fb821c5a
-Spread in mosquite-borne diseases such as Malaria and Dengue Fever (Epstein 1998)http://www.decvar.org/documents/epstein.pdf
-Increase in occurrence of allergic symptoms due to rise in allergenic pollen (Rogers 2006)http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1480488/
-Loss of 2/3 of the world’s polar bear population within 50 years (Amstrup 2007)http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/special/polar_bears/docs/USGS_PolarBear_Amstrup_Forecast_lowres.pdf
Just a few examples.
“Once out of office, he assumed the leadership of the global green movement, steering that movement into a tsunami of defeat that, when the debris is finally cleared away, will loom as one of the greatest failures of civil society in all time.”
This was not a failure, but a huge success for civil society. Someone like Gore might have done well in the days of the one-way media, where such figures were prone to be glorified by mass media and carried to the throne. Uninformed and poorly educated reporters could earn a steady job following such icons around giving air time to his proseltyzing.
Today the one-way media has the challenge of folks like us who can answer back and shed light on the falshoods that were once easy to propagate through society.
We have a new weapon…communication, and it is powerful. Gore’s downfall is an early example of its power.
Note to Al Gore,
The answers are easy.
Asking the right question, is the hard part.
He’s right about this: “…the very existence of our civilization is threatened.” By him and other members of the political class who have brought us to the brink of economic ruin, while profiting mightily and continuing to pursue their fetish of carbon control.
Gore going profane over the new lay of the land is more evidence that my post here http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/07/21/thank-the-gods-for-climategate/
was on target. The pro-warmers’ monopoly got busted – and they have been in a tizzy ever since.
The real thing that upsets them is that the skeptics are getting some of the press (though still far less than equitable). SOME is so much that they can’t take it.
We need to remember this for the future – and rub it in – that it was THEM, not us that said
“The goddamn word ‘climate.’ ”
Thanks, Al!
Soon to be shortened to “goddamn climate”?
Remember everybody => A = A
Yes, even Aristotle had it right ~2,400 yrs ago.
Al is Absurd
John
Brian said:
“There is no need to shoot the messenger UK… The naysayers are so focused on Al Gore instead of worrying about the message and the danger the world is in unless we reduce fossil fuels.”
What desperately needs to be shot is the message that CO2 from fossil fuels is bad at all. The fact is that development of the use of fossil fuels ended the need for slavery, and enabled technologies such as running water, refrigeration, cities taller than five stories, and global communication; to name just a few.
It is also true that CO2 in the atmosphere is relatively sparse, and it would be beneficial to have more of it. In addition, it is true that whatever possible “warming” that might be a result of a less than a tenth of a percent change in gas composition has yet to be demonstrated empirically, nor has there been a calculable physical explanation based on observed properties.that supports the hypothesis. In fact, it is only supported by conjecture, self-loathing, fear, and misrepresentation.
Steve Garcia said:
“The real thing that upsets them is that the skeptics are getting some of the press (though still far less than equitable). SOME is so much that they can’t take it.”
Wasn’t this was the motive for their “the science is settled” slogan?
Gore ” When you go and talk to any audience about climate, you hear them washing the same crap back at you time and again.”
…Now you know how sceptics feel.
And as much as I try to ignore Brian’s lame attempts at personal attacks and hijacking the thread, I must say, Brian, while you ususally criticize right-wing ideas, people, and so on, today you quoted Fox News.
…Switching “Teams” Brian?
Brian says:
August 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Here are just a few of the negative impacts of Global Warming:
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Brian, just a quiet little tap on the shoulder – it’s “climate change” now, some would even say “climate disruption” or “climate crisis”.
Get with the program. You need to find a totally different collection of appeals to authority.
Agreed! I have long thought along these lines. It would be utterly simple to insert a single ‘calibration’ or ‘control’ question into all polls. A question that sheds light on the respondents IQ. Possible examples …
* Do you believe that UFOs are visiting Earth and kept secret by the government?
* Do you believe that Oswald was part of a conspiracy?
* Do you believe that 9/11 was an inside job?
It is so simple (and I suspect other people could maybe think of even better questions).
Often the results will align perfectly or be within a few percentiles leading to a much better interpretation of the poll.
For example, the amount of people that believe in CAGW is equal to the number of people that believe in UFOs visiting Earth.
Brian says:
August 6, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Brian, you do realize that much of what you’ve posted has been debunked, right?
lol, malaria, allergies… I won’t bother addressing the malaria lark….. other than to state it isn’t dependent upon temps. Don’t take my word for it….. ask a real medical professional…. perhaps an infectious disease specialist. More pollen? lol… so, we’re to discourage plant growth? Trees, grasses and weeds all produce allergenic pollen. And, not all of us are afflicted with an over active immune system……. genetic superiority I guess. Again, go ask are real doctor….. quit listening to the logically challenged PhDs…… it all started when we decided everyone needed to attend college…..now look, we’ve got these educated idiots that people believe, just because we didn’t have the sense to put them in a production line somewhere.
and oh my…..polly bears ….again? Persistent buggers…… Brian….. the polly bears are just fine…. they’ve been fine for quite some time. They have 5 times the population they did 60 years ago. You do also realize they are essentially grizzly bears? They don’t need ice to survive. If anything, I’d be concerned with over population. It seems 20,000-30,000 is the proper saturation point. Much more than that and there will be some real problems to deal with.
Have you ever ran through the logic of how warming causes more precipitation but less water? ……..I didn’t think so. Crop production is fine….. its the pouring it down our fuel tanks is what the problem is.
Brian, most of those absurdities have been hashed and thrashed right here….. you should visit the archives. And try to think for yourself and quit letting others do it for you.
Best regards,
James
Clearly the “people” should not have read up on this and thought for them selves. That’s not what it’s about 🙂
This of course was first observed some years ago during a procedure to measure the sea level rise.
Neck deep in the sea and with a tape measure, Al would try to establish the sea level by taking the average of the wave troughs and peaks. The troughs were easy enough but every time he went to measure a peak, the wave would blast him in the face. This alone could account for his rather large error in sea level rise, but also the noted cursing at regularly spaced intervals.
/sarc
Brian, maybe you should update your information? Most of the stuff you linked to is out of date and/or inaccurate. Much like the “information” contained in the Gore missive.
Take the very recent news for the Murray-Darling Basin for example. The drought has come to an end, as droughts do. The drought has nothing to do with AGW but is the result of natural cycles and land mismanagement. Unless, of course, you have empirical, falsifiable evidence to the contrary?
a wolf in sheeps clothing .
Hugh Pepper: “…It servers no useful purpose to be slagging Gore. He is not your enemy.”
I respectfully disagree. When someone willfully spreads lies, blocks the other opinions from debate, won’t allow media in his conferences, has demonstrated his massive hypocricy in living an energy wasteful life while lecturing others, and has so clearly orchestrated the whole thing for financial gain then he truely is the enemy. But he’s an enemy of his own creation. He is not the victim.
What can one say about Al? Not only has he been delusional about his CAGW fantasy, but he’s been delusional that “the people”, for the most part were behind him. Like all cult leaders, he has needed to believe that, and has been in a state of denial about it. It is almost as though he has been living not only in a bubble, but in a time warp. But, you can only stave off reality for so long. Now he’s angry, and cussing. Good. He’ll drive even more people away from his climate cult, other than the faithful, mindless sheep who continue to imbibe the Koolaid.
Neil Jones says:
August 7, 2011 at 12:37 am
“”””Clearly the “people” should not have read up on this and thought for them selves. That’s not what it’s about :-)””””
————–
Neil Jones,
Well said.
That brings to mind, what are those lines from the movie ‘Gladiator’?
ahhhh, here they are:
John
Loosing the debate are we Al?
We can thank our lucky stars that this man never became our president. He’s just another unhinged eco-twitt.
Hugh Pepper says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:57 am
It is saddening that the message which Mr Gore has been communicating so ably is not perceived by more people. I’m sure he feels this sadness, as do many of us.
The reason Al’s “message” isn’t “perceived by more people” is that more and more people realize that it is just total BS, and that the’ve been hornswaggled. That isn’t “saddening”, except for the sheep who still want to Believe, but see that the CAGW cult/religion is collapsing.
It servers no useful purpose to be slagging Gore. He is not your enemy.
I’d turn that around and say that it serves no useful purpose for you to defend him. He is not your friend, nor is he a friend of humanity, or even of the earth itself. Al Gore is only out for Al Gore.
If Gore wants to talk about extreme weather, he could do worse than look back to 1971.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/essay-by-reader-paul-h-is-our-climate-becoming-more-extreme/
I credit Albert Gore with the creationalist embrace by making the Inconvenient Truth, and its effect on my EPA regulator mate who had just seen the light, the truth, the saviour. He announced that AG was in fact God!! and this remarkable statement rang alarm bells for me as the guy himself is a declared agnostic libertarian of the green kind.
Well that sparked a search as such religious fervour didn’t sit well with my observation of weather patterns, history, and learning. Thankfully the internet gave me access to very complex discussions, and also pompous authority statements, put downs of “contrarian” scientists “what would they know” “bought by big tobacco, big oil, big coal, “retarded” and even worse terms than that. Anything but engage in discussion, move on, shut up. So Al thanks for shaking up my complacence, stimulating my thinking, sorry it didn’t work out for your plans to take over the world, or whatever.
Now could you just speak to your flock and convince them that we need the internet, access to all information and data, free of censorship and dicatorship, or control by regulation, after all didn’t you invent it so we could do exactly as we have done – strip of the spin, the lies, and expose the truth!!
Good old uncle Al!!
Just fade away Al …
James Sexton says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:23 pm
James – the problem with folks like Brian is that they really think that drastically reducing
theirother’s standards of living for the sake of “the planet”* (through things like totally unnecessary “carbon taxes”) will somehow enable mankind to control the climate and hence fix all of the problems he stated.Of course, we have all seen how Al Gore has reduced his standard of living…
* When people use the term “the planet” they never state which planet they’re referring to…how about going back to referring to the place we live as “the Earth”??
Gore: ‘They have polluted it to the point where we cannot possibly come to an agreement on it’
Sorry Al, your side polluted the very meaning of intellectual honesty and true scientific discipline. Along the way, the system of peer-review was corrupted by “crony scientism”, and the curtain was pulled back on the Academic-Advocacy-CronyCapitalist-Government Complex.
It really sucks when you have become irrelevant.
Total fail on your assessment. Among the progressives, the height of political discourse and debate includes liberal use of foul language. However, if Big Al really wanted to reclaim his leadership role, he shoulda thrown in some f-bombs. That really woulda been like throwing them some tofu!
RE: Craig: (August 7, 2011 at 4:54 am)
We can thank our lucky stars that this man never became our president.
Hopefully true, but if the President, due to the failed economy, should pull a ‘Johnson’ and recuse himself from the next election then another Clinton/Gore ticket might be possible.
The quoted statement in the main article above does seem to be a clear concession that he has, with great regret, lost control of the climate debate.
opinion. Why can’t scientist look closer to the evidence? Maybe there is some truth in it. Even if there was 30% credible evidence, maybe politicians ought to make serious commitments towards saving the planet. As regarding Gore himself, I think it is unfair to criticize his personality. Maybe he was just having a bad day. Perhaps he should tread a path such as that Jimmy Carter did?
Never count a scoundrel down and out.
Just feel very, very sorry for the Brits. They have 5 political parties all of whom believe that global warming is real. They have a prime minister whose wife is a ghost supporter of the big green orgs and an opposition led by the biggest clown since COCO. They can’t even get rid of them all by not voting. They must be desperate.
Doug in Seattle is right. There are many greedy little fingers in the pot of cash that have financially supported the election of a certain group of genetic mutants sucking the life out of our surfdom economy under the name of saving us from our toxic doom. The puppeteers will continue to dictate to those enslaved public figures who in public drama will seemingly appear ridiculously out of touch with reality. Meanwhile the save the planet bumbersticker crowd do not see themselves as the problem, but zealously follow the gorium deity.
The Gore montra is now the snickery chuckle of BBQ chat, seen as seriously flawed from the onset.
“Clinton’s offer of the vice presidential slot in 1992 gave Gore the opportunity to reach a national audience as his home state cooled. ”
Apt phrase in the context of alleged Global Warming.
Gore doesn’t practice what he preaches, so why should anyone believe him? It is interesting that Bush has one of the most environmentally friendly houses one can design, while Gore has one of the most environmentally unfriendly. Do as I say says Gore, not as I do.
http://motls.blogspot.com/2007/02/gore-mansion-20x-average-household.html
Wil says:
August 6, 2011 at 11:14 am
“Now the latest polls indicate that as many as 34% say that they think UFOs are real. January 2011 Rasmussen Energy Update, fully one-third, 33%, “see AGW as a Very Serious problem.” Notice more people believe in UFOs than Gore? To me that’s not very able communicating on Gore’s part when more folks believe in aliens, is it?”
err..the flaw in your humorous post is that Unidentified means just that..Unidentified..with a bit more information..most tend to be prosaic..
Sorry..nothing about ET`s.. 🙂
Al…just remind me: what’s the temperature of the earth’s interior? Or perhaps you can explain how CO2 in ice cores causes temperature to rise when there is a lag of 800 years in the wrong direction? Or why your mate Lonnie Thompson only selectively releases ice core data? Or that Poley Bear picture…just where did that come from? “The science is settled”. Science is never settled. “Consensus”: consensus is politics, not science. Al “the science is settled” Gore who won’t debate with anyone. Pathetic.
Like most politicians, Al Gore is scientifically illiterate and a narcissist. And now he’s facing the worst nightmare for a narcissist: he’s increasingly standing in an echo chamber. Just think of all those fundraisers to come with a thousand rubber chickens going cold…*
*Ok..credit for the last line to Al Stewart.
Venter says:
August 6, 2011 at 10:17 am
“You see these signs of desperation everywhere in the pro-AGW community these days. They are lashing out indiscriminately and letting their anger and frustration show as they can see that their edifice is crumbling.”
Yes, desperation is one reasonable interpretation of Gore’s recent antics. Another is that Big Al realizes that he’s on the losing side of history, and is trying to milk every last dollar out of his True Believer followers, before the whole movement implodes.
Gore’s recent colorful metaphors appear to be part of an effort to tailor his sales pitch to the new reality. Yes, I feel your pain. Here, have some Demerol.
Larry Fields
After global brain-warming the meltdown occurred now he’s crying like a stupid little spoiled brat. No he’s not getting any more global power and control, and more world hunger and mass death, that eugenicist trash.
It seems Al Gore has an anger displacement issue. Can it be he is still angry about not becoming President and the anger can’t be kept under wraps but shows up like this?
Mr. Al Gore has given a very bad name to the politicians proffesion… ?!
“The fact that he has started cussing while addressing audiences(even supportive ones) clearly shows that he has lost the battle.”
Is this a joke? He was frustrated and swore so he must be losing. Anyone can add cursing to any argument or sentence, doesn’t mean anything. See Penn and Teller: BS where they swear no matter what the topic is.
It has been said before, and I will say it again. He’s just following a script. The Gore family is an entrenched and oil enhanced family and for him to have gone after his own companies must strain credulity (thanks, Howard C.), when one takes the time to think about this role he has been playing these past few years.
Who is this Al Gore and why is everyone talking about him? He must be a very important scientist doing very important research. They don’t give out Nobel(s) for narration… Don’t ya know? It’s not like they are candies or something and it sure ain’t Halloween. GK
pokerguy says:
August 6, 2011 at 11:52 am
“… The liberal intelligentsia and their leaders, from Al Gore to the NYT’s to at a guess 80 percent of college educated Democrats are in this thing up to their necks. ”
I’m a college-educated Democrat (music, theoretical linguistics, computer science), and I still remember the highly unlikely but imminent new ice age in 1970. I didn’t buy that one any more than the current scam. And I’ve never understood how radical environmentalism ever became an issue of the Left. Nor can I fathom how people who ought to know better suddenly embrace this or other dubious causes without doing even an evening’s research. My once favorite magazine finally lost me when they trashed Michael Crichton, who did his homework.
One big problem with nudging the pendulum back to sanity, if it can be done, is that political leaders do not make good science writers or explainers, by and large, but they try to debate nevertheless, and often end up sounding no less ignorant than the AGWers. And with the current state of education in the US, voters often really cannot vote rationally, and will not be able to until and unless we go back to teaching from a solid core curriculum from Pre-K through doctoral programs. I will now be waving my magic wand and muttering something in fractured Latin….