RSS global temp drops, version change adjusts cooler post 1998

Remote Sensing Systems of Santa Rosa, CA has published the January 2011 global temperature anomaly. It is not far from zero, and dropped quickly much like Dr. Roy Spencer’s UAH data this month. But, there’s a surprise. RSS has changed from Version 3.2 to 3.3 of their dataset, and adjusted it a bit cooler in the near term. Here’s a comparison plot:

Sources:

V3.2 ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/monthly_time_series/rss_monthly_msu_amsu_channel_tlt_anomalies_land_and_ocean_v03_2.txt

V3.3 ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/monthly_time_series/rss_monthly_msu_amsu_channel_tlt_anomalies_land_and_ocean_v03_3.txt

Curiously, there’s no mention of this new v3.3 data set on their web page describing the MSU data products they produce:

http://www.remss.com/msu/msu_data_description.html

Perhaps they just haven’t gotten around to updating it yet.

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February 3, 2011 11:16 pm

Perhaps.

Girma
February 3, 2011 11:48 pm

QUEENSLAND’S plan to become a world leader in clean coal is in disarray, with the state abandoning its ZeroGen project after taxpayers pumped $150 million into the initiative.

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Mick
February 4, 2011 12:42 am

If a instrument require a human reading/interpretation and that is a qualified one then it is explained.
However if an instrument data is adjusted BACKWARDS

Mick
February 4, 2011 12:45 am

Sorry mods, don’t know what happened. What I mean is:
…BACKWARDS, the human intervention have to be explained/reasoned.

Ken Hall
February 4, 2011 12:46 am

Am I seeing things? A temperature record which has been updated which then shows the modern temperatures lower than the earlier version?
What would Hansen say?

RACookPE1978
Editor
February 4, 2011 1:07 am

Looks like the 66 year sine wave of short term (3x the 11 year solar cycle) climate changes is heading back down.
Now, the question becomes: Has the 400 year long-term climate cycle peaked between 2000-2010, and we begin the Modern Ice Age?
Or do we continue the long climb up from the Little Ice Age towards a Modern Warm Period peaking in 2060-2070? (Then begin the 450 year decline into the Modern Ice Age?)

ahab
February 4, 2011 1:15 am

“Perhaps they just haven’t gotten around to updating it yet. ”
Have some guts and say what you really think

February 4, 2011 1:42 am

Looks like the oscillation is getting larger. Typical chaotic behavior prior to climate runaway. If we get period doubling and bifurcation, we won’t have to worry about 2012.

Mike Haseler
February 4, 2011 1:57 am

racookpe1978 says: February 4, 2011 at 1:07 am
“Looks like the 66 year sine wave of short term (3x the 11 year solar cycle) climate changes is heading back down. “
Hold your horses … one of the characteristics of 1/f type noise is that it appears to have cycles (and trends). That is to say, because low frequency noise dominates, you signal appears to rise and fall as if there were some underlying “force” driving it to move.
So, one must use very strict statistical criteria to determine whether there are cycles and trends (which I know isn’t what the “scientists” do – but we are better than them!

February 4, 2011 2:02 am

I don’t know which record to trust, does anyone else? This post shows RSS being adjusted downwards. How did that happen? Did the calibration against too-fast-rising land temperatures reveal itself as faulty? In fact, do the satellite sensors depend on the land records for calibration? and if so, is that after Hansen has waved his wand over the mix?
I still incline to unearth rural station records, individual ones at that, preferably ones that can be compared with reasonably nearby urban records. For to date, I think the picture shown by many intrepid collectors of rural records is pretty stunning, and from all over the world too.
Verity published my piece here but I’ve updated the original here

frederik wisse
February 4, 2011 2:27 am

Just an observation from an outsider . Nearly all published statistics nowadays are contaminated with ideological smoothing of reality . Would the singsong of al gore cs be nowadays dropping temperatures then they would be showing unprecedented cooling and robust temperature drops proving their point , no need to flee into drug -related orwellian double speak . Looking into the details of the sst anomalies as presented by unysis certain cosmetics in painting reality can easily be detected . There are very clear maps of the extent of northern hemisphere sea-ice , showing sea-ice west of nova zembla , east of greenland and north of the fram strait . On spots where the ice floor is visible and registered by satellites , the sst surface anomaly registration is showing clearly above mormal temperatures between 1 and 2 degrees celsius . Is the ice too hot over there ? Is there daily smoothing going on to serve a not so hidden agenda ? Is the registration so inaccurate that any anomaly under half a degree celsius is well under that standard deviation in the statistics ? How are the temperatures in and around the fram strait measured and does the possibility exist to verify their correctness ?

Jimbo
February 4, 2011 2:38 am

I have recently read some speculation by Warmists that man-made greenhouse gases MIGHT make El Ninos stronger. It doesn’t look like that according to the top graph.

Alan the Brit
February 4, 2011 2:39 am

Is it me? I don’t seem to be able to determine that 2010 was the second ever “warmist” (deliberate) year after 1998. It looks way down from where I am sitting!
I am still struggling to find a definitive website that explains how we won’t have another ice-age for 50-100,000 years. Could someone kindly point me in the right direction. I can find sites that tell me this is so, but with no evidence or apparent explanation, other than “orbital mecahnics” variation. BTW they appear to be warmist sites, but then I am biased!

DaveF
February 4, 2011 2:57 am

Why do we need all this adjustment anyway? Surely the raw data is enough? If we just add up the number of degrees and divide by the number of thermometers, year after year, it may not give an accurate average world temperature, but it will tell us whether it’s getting warmer or not, which is what we want to know. The only adjustment necessary being for increased UHI or for re-siting. Or am I being Simple Simon here?

Mike Haseler
February 4, 2011 2:59 am

I’ve started producing a “global temperature simulator” based on a 1/f noise generator. I’d like to find people who could progress this project further so I’ve put the very crude basic model on the internet in the hope of attracting interest.
the urls are:
http://www.haseler.net/pink.ods (openoffice – it works)
http://www.haseler.net/pink.xls (micro$oft excel – as saved from openoffice)
The simple instructions are: “open it, click on tab and press f9” to see how a 1/f type signal behaves over a 2000 “month” simulation (170 years) There’s an email in the files for contact.
For info. I’ve not used macros it is just a simple spreadsheet and graph.

Mike Haseler
February 4, 2011 3:05 am

That should say: I’d like to find people who could help progress this project further.

Dave Springer
February 4, 2011 3:11 am

CAGW boffins used up all the trust and good will between science and the public. There was a lot of trust and it went a long way towards wrongly convincing the public that burning fossil fuels was causing irreparable catastrophic harm. Several years ago when I realized CAGW had no foundation in science and was in fact just another FUD-based narrative (FUD = fear, uncertainty, dread) being used to acheive political/ideological goals I suspected the only thing that would stop these criminals in their tracks would be for the climate to start turning colder. After finding there was a 60-year warming/cooling cycle that was due to change I was hopeful it would happen before it was too late.
It looks like the worm has turned just in time. Now however we have to deal with two awful consequences. The first of course is that global cooling is bad. It engenders a need for even more fossil fuel consumption and even worse it adversly impacts agricultural production through shorter growing seasons, late killer frosts early in the season and early killer frosts late in the season.
In earlier times I would have counted on science, engineering, and technology as being able to counter the effect of global cooling and thus let the march of progress and continue the global rise in living standards. Now I’m not so sure. When the global warming brouhaha fully collapses and everyone learns how they’ve been hoodwinked the public trust in science may be harmed to a great extent. The next time the science establishment declares that the sky is falling and we must do this and that to prevent a catastrophe no one will listen and the next time the impending catastrophe may be for real.
What the AGW boffins did is unforgiveable. If it were up to me every last one of them that cried wolf over AGW should be fired and have their credentials rescinded so that they may not be employed in any position of public trust ever again.

February 4, 2011 4:21 am

“Am I seeing things? A temperature record which has been updated which then shows the modern temperatures lower than the earlier version? ”
They already got all of the play out of the high temps earlier. Now they can quietly reduce temps, making it easier to hit record highs again and at a steeper incline than would otherwise be the case. They get to have their cake and eat it too.

P. Solar
February 4, 2011 4:49 am

ahab says:
February 4, 2011 at 1:15 am
>>
“Perhaps they just haven’t gotten around to updating it yet. ”
Have some guts and say what you really think
>>
How about have some bloody manners?!
Anthony’s comment seems fairly sensible and I see no justification for your language.
The version notes he links to do not (yet?) have any details concerning version 3.3 . That is rather sloppy since they have published the data. It seems unlikely that they intend to leave v3.3 undocumented.
I’m sure you would not address him a comment like that face to face so why do it here?

P. Solar
February 4, 2011 4:56 am

I’m always very dubious when I see this sort of adjustment , though I think this must be the first time I’ve seen anyone adjust temperatures downwards. Maybe that reflects their policy bias too.
It will be interesting to see how they document the changes .
This is getting like estimates of crowd sizes at demos. Organisers exaggerate 100% , police cut numbers in half.
Wasn’t it Disraeli who said “there are lies , damn lies and (climate) statistics” ?

David W
February 4, 2011 4:56 am

“Mike McMillan says:
February 4, 2011 at 1:42 am
Looks like the oscillation is getting larger. Typical chaotic behavior prior to climate runaway. If we get period doubling and bifurcation, we won’t have to worry about 2012.”
Can I have all your money then since you wont need it any more.

Chris Wright
February 4, 2011 5:21 am

Lucy Skywalker says:
February 4, 2011 at 2:02 am
“I don’t know which record to trust, does anyone else? This post shows RSS being adjusted downwards. How did that happen? Did the calibration against too-fast-rising land temperatures reveal itself as faulty? In fact, do the satellite sensors depend on the land records for calibration? and if so, is that after Hansen has waved his wand over the mix?”
One of the satellite guys that regularly posts data here repeatedly states that the satellite sensor is calibrated against an on-board source, clearly suggesting that calibration does not depend on the thermometer records such as GISS. Of course, if calibration did depend on GISS then they would no longer be independent and, worse, the satellite record would be badly contaminated.
I would suggest that the on-board source is used to correct for sensor drift. If so, it is quite distinct to the actual calibration process. To perform the actual calibration you would have to depend on theory alone – or you do indeed calibrate against a more ‘reliable’ source which presumably means thermometers.
I hope that the satellits record is not contaminated by the appalling thermometer records. But I would like to know how precisely the sensor outputs are converted to temperature. I seriously doubt that the on-board source can do this.
Chris

Patrick Davis
February 4, 2011 5:40 am

“P. Solar says:
February 4, 2011 at 4:56 am”
Or Mark Twain.
But yes, it is odd that this new dataset is adjusted, either way, I don’t care. It is still adjusted (Mannipulated). Opens up even more questions about their methods, data and “science” IMO. What base measure was used to re-adjust the data? What data was used (Can’t be stuff from UEA CRU, the cat ate it in the move)? Why the adjustment now (After Climategate, the Copenhagen failure, massive cold almost everywhere, dare I say globally)?
I smell a, politically biased, fishy smelling temperature rat!

Frank K.
February 4, 2011 5:47 am

So the global mean temperature index is back to where it was when I graduated high school [lol]. (…that was back when “Flock of Seagull”s was a popular band…)

beng
February 4, 2011 6:03 am

Blasphemy! Don’t they know that ALL changes in the near past must be made upward. Downward adjustments must be limited to pre-1960s or so.

Chris Wright
February 4, 2011 6:06 am

WUWT has an interesting explanation about satellite calibration etc by Dr Roy Spencer:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/12/how-the-uah-global-temperatures-are-produced/
He answers my question right at the end:
“Fortunately, John Christy has spent a lot of time comparing our datasets to radiosonde (weather balloon) datasets, and finds very good long-term agreement.”
I think I’m satisfied. Of course, it does mean we have to worry about whether the rediosonde data has been ‘adjusted’ to match the surface data.
Overall, I’m reasonably satisfied that the satellite record is reliable. By the way, doesn’t AGW theory predict that the satellite (atmospheric) record should show more warming than the surface?
Chris

February 4, 2011 6:10 am

Alan the Brit says:
February 4, 2011 at 2:39 am
___________________________
A practical optimist wouldn’t worry too much about the next ice-age. It seems that ice-ages develop fully when reduced solar heating is exacerabated by the loss of solar heat by reflectance from a larger cover of ice and snow.
Just as we could likely thaw the polar regions at present by dispersing soot on them, so could we manage the cryosphere when our solar orbit would otherwise cause continental glaciation.

Pamela Gray
February 4, 2011 6:19 am

My bet: Readjusted satellite orbital drift due to a quiet Sun. The adjustment then forced a recalculation of readings.

kramer
February 4, 2011 6:34 am

Where does RSS take the temp readings from, the entire earth? If so, that would include UHI temp, right?

Ron C.
February 4, 2011 6:46 am

I’m just wondering if these adjustments are only the typical effect of showing anomalies on a graph. Since the data points are deviations from “normal”, they must change if you change “normal”. And if (as UAH did recently) you shift from a 20-year, to a 30-year baseline, “normal” will change and so will many of the data points.

Scott Covert
February 4, 2011 6:55 am

I won’t speculate why the temps are adjusted (Possibly recalibration of the on board RTDs? Not likely unless cosmic rays are messing with them since RTDs are pretty stable)… wait, I just speculated…
It’s refreshing to see some adjustments on the other side of positive (I guess, but all adjustments need to be clearly documented and justified).

MackemX
February 4, 2011 7:22 am

Good reason to adjust 2010 figures down (after everyone’s been told it was the warmest year ever) is that it increases the likelihod of 2011 being warmer than 2010 (according to the record) or at least, not as much cooler as is likely to be the case.
Is that too cynical?

February 4, 2011 7:24 am

I just sent them an email asking about it.

roger
February 4, 2011 7:35 am

David W says:
February 4, 2011 at 4:56 am
“Nah! He spent it all on a bridge to live under.

pyromancer76
February 4, 2011 7:37 am

A change without mention of the new data version? Why should they; they’re in charge.
@Lucy Skywalker. Beautiful update. Excellent analysis from “experimental” data — the real thing. I am sending it on. Thanks.

Tom T
February 4, 2011 7:38 am

Lucy Skywalker: Although I don’t think he is connected with RSS, Dr Spencer has stated often that the satellite data is not calibrated with ground based instruments. The point of the satellites is to have an independent record of temperature.

February 4, 2011 8:16 am

I was about ready to comment that we should demand that the Adjustment be plotted on the chart along with the anomaly. Then I realized I’d fallen into the mental trap…. Adjustment to the Anomaly???
Just like the ice curves where we see not only the anomaly, but we can see the total ice cover, we need to see the total average temperatures against the averages for the prior years. “But if we do that, we would not be able to see the anomaly.” Precisely.
We are being brainwashed into looking at a temperature divergence from some hidden-from-the-reader mean, itself corrupted with unknown manual adjustments that accounts for unknown instrument drift and unknown UHI bias. As bad as that is we are spoon-fed plots that completely ignore the standard deviation of the sample population, which is a function of the calendar data, and the mean standard error of the original temperature mean.
The statistical sins we are committing are enormous. Yet, through shear repetition, the sins become accepted and the brainwashing succeeds.
“There’s a flea on the wing on the fly on the frog on the bump on the log in the hole in the middle of the sea.” — Children’s Campfire Song

Daniel H
February 4, 2011 8:27 am

The v3.3 dataset is mentioned briefly in a presentation that was given to NOAA by RSS scientist Carl Mears and RSS founder/scientist Frank Wentz back in September of 2009. On page 22 of the 24 page presentation, they state:

Schedule
Next few months:
1. Release Version 3.3, which includes data from AMSU on NOAA-18, AQUA, and MetOP-A
2. Submit paper on error analysis
Next 18 months:
1. Streamline and modularize processing system – port as many components as possible to python. (HDF-EOS4??)
2. Get ready for ATMS on NPP – Jan 2011 launch?
3. Improve monitoring tool/automatic report generation

So they are a bit more than a year late in releasing the v3.3 dataset (if they are indeed referring to the same thing). The PDF for the presentation can be downloaded here [792KB]:
ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/sds/SDS_AMSU.Mears.Sept09.pdf

j.pickens
February 4, 2011 8:54 am

Looking closely, I see that while the highs were lowered, the lowers were “highed” as well. Look at month 250, the low valleys are lower than they were preadjustment, but the majority of the more recent low valleys were adjusted upwards. What’s up with that?

j.pickens
February 4, 2011 8:58 am

Ooops, I read it wrong, the red is the older set.
So, they did raise the lows around month 250, and have lowered the lows since.
This adjustment around month 250 goes counter to the rest of the adjustments.
What does this mean?

Ron C.
February 4, 2011 10:00 am

Stephen Rasey says:
“As bad as that is we are spoon-fed plots that completely ignore the standard deviation of the sample population, which is a function of the calendar data, and the mean standard error of the original temperature mean.”
Bang on. And then we get years ranked as the warmest by differences of a few hundreths of a degree F.
“Global climate statistics are like sausages: You really don’t want to know what goes into them.”

Duster
February 4, 2011 11:04 am

Alan the Brit says:
February 4, 2011 at 2:39 am
Ice core data shows a distinct “saw toothed” shape with the descent into glacial epochs marked by a long, gradual cooling followed by an abrupt warming. Additional texture seems to be supplied by shorter-term Dansgaard-Oeschger events and other noise. If you restrict the data to the terminal Pleistocene and the Holocene, we appear to be on the downslope into the next glacial epoch, but still near the upper edge of the shoulder in the curve, even with the resent “warming.”

Robuk
February 4, 2011 11:18 am

You don`t need thousands of weather stations you just need a couple of hundred pristine rural stations scattered across the planet, the New Zealand set is a good start.
When will someone make the commitment, everything is linked to these bloody dodgy temperatures.

Murray Duffin
February 4, 2011 11:47 am

racookpe1978 says:
Now, the question becomes: Has the 400 year long-term climate cycle peaked between 2000-2010, and we begin the Modern Ice Age?
Or do we continue the long climb up from the Little Ice Age towards a Modern Warm Period peaking in 2060-2070? (Then begin the 450 year decline into the Modern Ice Age?)
Both and neither – see http://www.agwnot.blogspot.com/

richard verney
February 4, 2011 11:50 am

Robuk says:
February 4, 2011 at 11:18 am
You don`t need thousands of weather stations you just need a couple of hundred pristine rural stations scattered across the planet, the New Zealand set is a good start.
When will someone make the commitment, everything is linked to these bloody dodgy temperatures.
/////////////////////////////////
Agreed. There is absolutely no point in trying to make a so called global average temperature/temperature anomaly . This is especially so since for the main part climate change is a local issue and many places have their own localised climate. further, it is important to know where in the world there is warming (eg., the poles, the NH, equitorial regions, or SH etc) since the impact on man will be significantly different in each area. It would also be interesting to know the pattern of warming during the course of the day and the seasonal pattern.
Each country should compile its own record based upon good quality rural data that does not need adjustment. If these as a whole do not show a warming trend, then global warming would appear to be a myth.

February 4, 2011 12:33 pm

Keep in mind that by adjusting recent temps down slightly, it makes next years lows look less drastic… It’s all about trying to keep the trend alive.

Edim
February 4, 2011 12:48 pm

Robuk,
Absolutely agree!!! In fact, I think even 10 – 20 very good stations covering all continents would be enough and much more scientific than that fake official “average global anomalies”. Something like a global temperature index or even more of them (10, 20, 50, 100 stations). Like top 10, top 40, top 100 “global temperature index”. Even a trend over the last 30 – 60 or more years would be very telling.
No adjustments! Not even UHI! Every station have some positive UHI trend, but for some very rural stations it is probably negligible.

Mike Borgelt
February 4, 2011 2:31 pm

I re-read Roy Spencer’s explanation of the satellite temperature derivation.
He does say that within around 1 deg C is as good as it gets but that you can use it for climatology because the measurement methods are very stable.
Then mentions that the instrument drifts due to body temperature, which it should not do.
I don’t like the calibration method either. Any temperature above 290 or so K is an extrapolation and using 2.7K as the low end is well below any lowest temperature likely to exist in the atmosphere which in reality most of the time will be 200K or warmer.
The RTDs and associated electronics are never recovered. There are huge ASSUMPTIONS about stability and the effects of ionising radiation.
I’m unimpressed. Satellites are great tool for forecasting as it’s like having a very dense grid of radiosonde data. For climatology – meh.
And where are the error bars on that graph?

Greg Meurer
February 4, 2011 2:37 pm

To those who can do math:
The change represented by ver3 appears to be enough to change the slope of trend line.
The trend line reported for ver2 through Dec. ’10 is 0.163 K/decade. The trend line looks like it has dropped to less than 0.15 K/decade. Could someone check this. the last time I had to calculate I trend line was as an undergrad and over 4 decades ago.
Thanks.

February 4, 2011 2:50 pm

Strange. RSS v3.3 average annual anomaly for 2010 is 0.476°C, significantly lower than the 0.55°C in 1998. And here comes the trillion dollar question.
Is it worse than we thought or better?

sky
February 4, 2011 5:20 pm

Lucy Skywalker says:
February 4, 2011 at 2:02 am
“I still incline to unearth rural station records…”
That ‘s the most scientific way of approaching the data corruption issue, obviating any guesswork about the magnitude of the bias and error. The downside, of course, is that outside the USA and Australia, there are precious few “rural” records to be found in the GHCN data base. And those that are available are much too often not brought up to date (e.g., China, Turkey). In fact, it seems that that records that do not “perform” according to AGW expectations are being ignored (e.g., Tejon Rancho CA, Sotchi in Russia). forcing ever greater reliance upon urban records in constructing various “global temperature” indices.

Brian H
February 4, 2011 7:12 pm

Daniel H says:
February 4, 2011 at 8:27 am
The v3.3 dataset is mentioned briefly in a presentation that was given to NOAA by RSS scientist Carl Mears and RSS founder/scientist Frank Wentz back in September of 2009. On page 22 of the 24 page presentation, they state:
Schedule
Next few months:
1. Release Version 3.3, which includes data from AMSU on NOAA-18, AQUA, and MetOP-A
2. Submit paper on error analysis

That’s a lot more than 13 months. The plan was from 2009, a few months. Probably more like 25 months late.

Dave Springer says:
February 4, 2011 at 3:11 am
CAGW boffins used up all the trust and good will between science and the public. There was a lot of trust and it went a long way towards wrongly convincing the public that burning fossil fuels was causing irreparable catastrophic harm. Several years ago when I realized CAGW had no foundation in science and was in fact just another FUD-based narrative (FUD = fear, uncertainty, dread) being used to acheive political/ideological goals I suspected the only thing that would stop these criminals in their tracks would be for the climate to start turning colder. After finding there was a 60-year warming/cooling cycle that was due to change I was hopeful it would happen before it was too late.

Dave, Richard Branson and the boy s are still hard at it.
http://www.carbonwarroom.com/about/founders
From their home page:

Situation
The rate at which our carbon-industrial complex is consuming and destroying natural resources and increasing global CO2e emissions is threatening our future.
Under business-as-usual, rising CO2e emissions from energy, industry, and land use will lead to catastrophic climate change with negative consequences for all of humankind. Climate change threatens to disrupt agriculture, intensify storms, incur droughts, and raise sea levels, among other effects. Large-scale environmental change will result in loss of wealth and life. A number of early effects, including saltwater intrusion due to sea level rise and shifts in snowmelt patterns, are already being felt.

Note the bolded phrase, which so many Warmists commenting on skeptic sites so belligerently challenge anyone to “source” to actual AGW sources.
Well, there it is, in all its glory.

Brian H
February 4, 2011 7:18 pm

Oops, just noted the subtlety: it’s “catastrophic climate change”, not “global warming”! Gotta keep up with the au courant euphemisms. I guess “catastrophic climate disruption” would be a bit over-the-top even for these loons.
My own prediction and nomination for the next ratchet-up is “climate damage”; “catastrophic [anthropogenic] climate damage” really says it all, doesn’t it?
😉 LOL

Brian H
February 4, 2011 7:24 pm

Stephen Rasey says:
February 4, 2011 at 8:16 am

we are spoon-fed plots that completely ignore the standard deviation of the sample population, which is a function of the calendar data, and the mean standard error of the original temperature mean.
The statistical sins we are committing are enormous. Yet, through shear repetition, the sins become accepted and the brainwashing succeeds.

A very cutting remark! Indeed, we all recoil in sheer horror.
Another example of statistical BS-brainwashing is, IMO, the touting of 95% confidence levels as though that was anything but the weakest and squishiest of standards, worthy only of Psychology and other pseudo-sciences. Hardly the 5+ sigma stuff physics is supposed to require! About like a finger-crossed promise not to do any data snooping ….
🙂 😉
LOL+Barf

Lawrie Ayres
February 4, 2011 7:26 pm

I have followed the arguments here and elsewhere for two years now. It seems the only way that AGW/CC will be canned and the IPCC finally falsified will be the continuing cool/cold cycle. They can adjust and manipulate as much as they like but long cold winters and wet summers will be the final arbiters. Those are the antithesis of the IPCC projections and Al Gores disaster movie both of which are thankfully well archived. As it is the static temps ,currently showing a 1 degree rise in 500 years, are far from the postulated increase along with CO2 emissions.
Instead of arguing over one one hundredth of a degree we simply have to refer to the projections and how they have failed over and over.

Layman Lurker
February 4, 2011 7:59 pm

Greg Meurer says:

The trend line looks like it has dropped to less than 0.15 K/decade. Could someone check this. the last time I had to calculate I trend line was as an undergrad and over 4 decades ago.

The trend for RSS v3.3 is 0.1492 per decade.

February 4, 2011 8:56 pm

If you compare the RSS global temperature anomalies to that from UAH, remember that they reference different base periods. The UAH temperature index is relative to the monthly average temperatures for the 30 year period 1981 to 2010. The UAH January 2011 global temperature anomaly relative to 1981 to 2010 was -0.01 C.
The RSS temperature index is still relative to the 20 year period 1979 to 1998. The RSS January 2011 global temperature anomaly relative to 1979 to 1998 was +0.083 C. However, correcting this to the 30 year period 1981 to 2010 (for comparison to UAH) gives a temperature anomaly of -0.034 C. Using the same base period, the RSS anomaly is cooler than the UAH anomaly.
The average of the UAH and RSS global temperature anomalies relative to 1981 to 2010 are:
Aug 2010 0.447
Sep 2010 0.438
Oct 2010 0.258
Nov 2010 0.245
Dec 2010 0.161
Jan 2011 -0.022
A graph of the average of UAH and RSS temperature anomalies, both using the 30 year base period, is updated monthly and displayed on the Friends of Science website at http://www.friendsofscience.org
Click on the small graph under the left navigation menu for a full size graph.

Daniel H
February 4, 2011 9:21 pm

I grabbed the RSS v3.2 temperature anomaly map for January 2009 and the v3.3 temperature anomaly map for the same month and created an animated gif to compare the two. I chose 01/2009 because there is a large difference between the two dataset versions for this particular month. You can see for yourself which areas of the world “cooled down” in the v3.3 version (which isn’t labeled but uses a darker/larger font). The difference is striking:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2231/294test.gif

Kim S.
February 5, 2011 1:29 am

What is the red line, and why doesn’t it start until after 1998?

mike sphar
February 6, 2011 8:40 am

Some one, I think it was Zeke Hausfath from Yale (I think) used to have a real nice chart of all four major world wide temperature plots: UAH, RSS, GISS, and Hadley CRU. It would be nice to see this comparison brought forward to current times and maintained into the future as well. Probably too much to expect.

Alfred Burdett
February 6, 2011 12:59 pm

No doubt the slight adjustment is of interest to experts. But isn’t the most striking feature of this graph the consistent 30-year upward trend of about 0.1 C per decade, which is surely statistically significant? Does anyone know what the regression coefficient is?

Werner Brozek
February 6, 2011 9:06 pm

“mike sphar says:
February 6, 2011 at 8:40 am
Some one, I think it was Zeke Hausfath from Yale (I think) used to have a real nice chart of all four major world wide temperature plots: UAH, RSS, GISS, and Hadley CRU. It would be nice to see this comparison brought forward to current times and maintained into the future as well. Probably too much to expect.”
See: http://hidethedecline.eu/pages/posts/status-on-global-temperature-trends-216.php

February 7, 2011 6:54 am

WUWT,
This site continues to be among the very best for serious discourse by the brightest bloggers. They routinely challenge conventional thinking. Well done!
You are invited to review the latest press release from the Space and Science Research Center (SSRC) posted at 5:00 PM Friday, February 7, 2011 and titled, “Global Cooling Begins and Global Warming Ends with Record Drop in Temperatures.”
This release is available at the SSRC web site at:
http://www.spaceandscience.net/id16.html
This important release follows on the heels of another one posted Tuesday, January 25, 2011 and titled “NASA Data Confirms Solar Hibernation and Climate Change to Cold Era.”
It is also available at the SSRC web site: http://www.spaceandscience.net.
Thank You,
John L. Casey
Director
Space and Science Research Center

Alfred Burdett
February 7, 2011 8:36 am

John Casey invites us to read a press release entitled: “Global Cooling Begins and Global Warming Ends with Record Drop in Temperatures.”
Why should we?
The title of the press release falsely asserts that we have just experienced a “Record Drop in temperatures,” but in fact, the drop in temperature following the 1998 el Nino was clearly much greater than the drop experienced so far following last year’s el Nino (see chart above). What is clear from the global temperature anomaly chart presented in this post is that there has been a 30-year warming trend with a statistically significant upward slope of around 0.1 C per decade.

Mike Haseler
February 7, 2011 9:04 am

Alfred Burdett says: February 7, 2011 at 8:36 am
“What is clear from the global temperature anomaly chart presented in this post is that there has been a 30-year warming trend with a statistically significant upward slope of around 0.1 C per decade.”
what is clear from the graph is that since the IPCC predicted global warming of 1.4-5.8C/ century in 2001 — it has cooled
And as far as I am aware there has not been the slightest hint of an apology explanation even acknowledgement that the global temperature has not warmed.
In real science (not climate “science”) people make predictions and then they assess the validity of those predictions against the data. In climate science … they make backcasts … that the data “proves” it is cooling when it cools and that it “proves” it is warming when it warms.
And the rest of us just split our sides laughing!

CanSpeccy
February 7, 2011 5:08 pm

Mike Hasler said:
“what is clear from the graph is that since the IPCC predicted global warming of 1.4-5.8C/ century in 2001 — it has cooled”
Only if you compare instantaneous measurements, which is meaningless if you are attempting to assess whether there is a trend.
In fact, there is pretty certainly a statistically significant, 30-year upward trend of about 0.1 C per decade from 1979 through either December 2000 or January 2011 which is not incompatible with the lower end of the IPCC predicted rate of warming for the 21st Century.
Not that I’m suggesting that there’s any merit in the IPCC projection — I have no basis to make a judgment. I’m merely suggesting that people look sensibly at the evidence before their eyes.

February 9, 2011 3:38 pm

Apologize if this already was posted. I got a reply from RSS yesterday about the changes. They sent me a link to get it, but it did not work so I went to the directory and got it. ftp://ftp.ssmi.com/msu/support
“The purpose of making the version change is to include data from the AMSU instruments on AQUA, NOAA-18, and MetOP-A. Version 3.2 only used AMSU data from NOAA-15, which is now in its 13th year”
of operation

Brian H
February 10, 2011 7:21 am

Alfred Burdett says:
February 6, 2011 at 12:59 pm
No doubt the slight adjustment is of interest to experts. But isn’t the most striking feature of this graph the consistent 30-year upward trend of about 0.1 C per decade, which is surely statistically significant? Does anyone know what the regression coefficient is?

IIRC, I believe it was revealed that this is programmed in to the models, and the data are retro-adjusted to fit.