On Suzuki: "celebrity and integrity seem to be mutually exclusive"

Let’s also recall that the chairman of the Suzuki Foundation is Hoggan the author of desmogblog the racist hatemongering blog that attacks scientists. Suzuki is infiltrating municipalities with his activists being elected as councillors and then forming committtee with “concerned citizens” that in fact are Suzuki activists. This way in British Columbia where these are based, they can push their green agenda through the back door almost stealth despite the greens making only 8% of the vote at the last election. This is Bolchevik tactics… beware.

Narcissism (often malignant) and hypocrisy go hand in hand. So common amongst these self-regarding eco-gurus.

ironically, i was logging on to ask anthony and others on WUWT if they could please list their top five essential CAGW sceptic books, as my library in australia is willing to order them in to counteract their shelves of tired old alarmist literature.
any assistance would be much appreciated. thanx in advance.

The Green celebrities we have learned to know by their “science”, their e-mails, their deeds and their discussions are no nice people. Most of them really hate humanity and want to see the majority of the people rather dead than alive.
Why should David Suzuki be any different?

It was David Suzuki who turned me into a skeptic. I saw him in a TV interview when he was asked whether solar cycles might not account for global warming. When he dismissed the question with a huff without even a word of response I knew he wasn’t a scientist. I decided that it was time to learn what the real science was.

Haven’t cared for the man since the early ’80s when his anti-human agenda was coming through loud and clear in The Nature of Things. When he started following me on Twitter a year or so ago, I wrote to explain why I Probably Didn’t Like Him.

If she took the time to look into ClimateGate she may be equally disillusioned with global warming scientists.

The maw awaits, some will escape.
Some will escape with their lives.

Another Gore wannabe……………
Those dang questions get so confusing

Liberals are tryants at heart. They know best what is better for you.
Do as you are told, not as you see us do.

pat says:
November 25, 2010 at 4:56 pm
To the above I’d add Scared To Death: From BSE To Global Warming, Why Scares Are Costing Us The Earth by Christopher Booker and Dr Richard North.

If only there was a video of this to see what really happened. Next time: tape it.
BTW, in the title: Susuki. Is that a typo, or a joke I’m not getting?

I’m sure others can suggest more.
I would add Australian Ian Plimer’s “Heaven and Earth”.

Now if she would only look to see that her so called “green” religion is just a sham.

Archonix says:
November 25, 2010 at 6:02 pm
Good choice, I was trying to think of the title.
DaveE.

(Insert anti-Suzuki rant here)

Suzuki and Gore aren’t very clever at all.
Like ex-smokers often being the most-strident anti-smoking activists, the ex-warmers will contribute significantly to the undoing of the CAGW scam promoters.
It only takes the followers of the religion to stop being entranced and to begin thinking for themselves.

David Jones says:
November 25, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I’m only a Brit but WTF is “David Suzuki”? The only “Suzuski” I’ve heard of is an Asian motor car manufacturer!
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David Suzuki is kind of like Canada’s answer to Ralph Nader, only he’s an environmentalist. His qualifications are in genetics, but he’s strayed far away from his scientific origins, and has become Canada’s primary green spokesperson and supposed environmental activist.
Last winter he and his organization tried to bamboozle Canadians and visitors into believing that the warm weather that marred the winter Olympics was due to global warming, whereas all denizens of WUWT know it was a strong El Nino. He has absolutely no integrity, but is lionized by an uncritical Canadian public.

“I am in no way turned off the environmental causes I have always believed in, simply disappointed to have to tell my students, once again, that celebrity and integrity seem to be mutually exclusive.”
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….. Well damn well Question those environmental causes then Ms Carson….. Because the integrity that you now have experienced as lacking….. may have also exaggerated or lied about the environmental causes that have drawn your concern.
It’s scary that so many useful idiots are attracted to becoming “educators”….. It shows that our “education” is not about educating, but rather propagandizing.

Dr. Timothy Ball: Climate deception is a crime against humanity
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30372

After reading this and hearing other things about this man, I went straight to my bookcase, picked out the two books I bought 30 years ago on genetics as authored by him , then proceeded to throw them straight into the (non-recycling) bin! (I had been meaning to do this for the last thirty years but this post was the trigger).

Pat
Doesn’t the library in your area have “Heaven and Earth” by Ian Plimer? My library does.

Gerald Machnee says:
November 25, 2010 at 5:40 pm
“Maybe he was eating a cookie and could not respond.”
Only those of us in frozen Alberta will understand the “cookie” reference but we are sending him back to Australia where he belongs.
ref: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20101124/alberta-health-board-101124/

ahhh…the ‘Hamptons’… Now THAT was the ‘clincher’ that finally made sense.
She’s a disillusioned librarian…(probably ’cause the kids can’t read?) yet, she remains stalwart! …she’ll firmly hold on to her illusions as she and her neighbors trudge into eco-doom and gloom simply ’cause it’s fashionable…while her former hero ‘bites the dust’. (But, then again – wasn’t that HER problem for being a bad judge of character before assigning hero-status?) Best try to channel John Dewey about that one, Honey.
But, rather than search her out and burst even MORE of her eco-bubbles ~ I’ll be ‘good’ ’cause it IS Thanksgiving and share gratefully with you guys that notoriety/celebrity is NOT mutually exclusive with those (normal mature) humans who ‘have a clue’. *We either have a ‘better than’ mentality or we don’t – plain an’ simple.
I do wonder, however – if this babe couldda just offered that Mr. Sus/z her arm so that he’d autograph it, and then he could’ve been happy and she’d still be able to feel ‘politically correct in innocent ignorance’ and allow all the other bubbles being made in this world to burst – instead of hers.
Ahhh…BUT (she muses) what CO2 would’ve been actually generated by the arm-writing process??? Well…….of course, that DEPENDS. (NO! It doesn’t depend on the way I feel one a certain day – at a certain time!!!)
The CO2 would be LESS – significantly less, in fact, it were a ‘Bic Biro’ pen rather than a magic marker…which is called a textacolour in Australia…Now I wonder if changing the name of something reduces CO2??? Oh, SURE! I’ve studied it for YEARS!!! (Send cash for my research to….)
You want to actually SEE the data before you send me cash??? Oh, certainly!!! Just give me a moment… I’ve got all the relevant data to prove it! Don’t you trust me??? Are you……..A RACIST??? It’s somewhere around here…….. Awww… you guys could just TRUST ME to have that data stored correctly… Oh Yeah! I remember! I put the data in the glove box of my hired limo that’s idling for an hour just outside of this room! I’ll be right back… Hey. Before I go – Happy Thanksgiving ( I even smoked a turkey once – in Tooele (that’s near Salt Lake City, Utah)) Even (choke!) to those of the ‘eco-faith’ in the Hamptons and elsewhere.
C.L. Thorpe

Dear Jenn, here in British-Columbia, where Suzuki is from, we always knew he was a fake.

Greenpeace’s 12th century technology
http://nofrakkingconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/greenpeaces-12th-century-technology/

David Suzuki came to New Zealand a couple of months ago and got interviewed on our State TV channel. Honestly, he came across a a complete enviro. nutter. The interviewer, Mark Sainsbury (who doesn’t have a reutation for asking hard questions) eventually started to take the piss out of him. I had never heard of him before that moment and after the interview thought oh dear and promptly forgot be even existed, until now.

One of the most important things that you have to teach to your students, and sons and daughters, is the following:
WHATEVER YOU READ, SEE OR HEAR, CHECK IT OUT. Don’t believe it outright because CNN said it, or I said. 99% of all the things said are incentivised by money. A journalist is paid for publishng a report, an editor too, the more they sell the more money they make. Hence the more interesting or bad the news is, the higher probability that it is snake oil. This holds also true for (pseudo) scientific reports, published by paid public-servant scientists, who would lose their pay check if there is nothing to discover or say. Publicly-funded scientists are none better than journalists. Both will lose their job if they don’t publish.
As for me, I have learned this by experience. I’m fed up of hearing:
Oil will be finished by 1970…80….90…………..
We are entering an Ice Age
We are all gonna burn due to global warming…………
We are all gonna drown from oceans rising……..
Antarctica melting
Mobile phones cause cancer
Bird flu
Swine flu
Ocean acidification
Lack of food
But the surprise of my life is that I will soon die of…………..old age.

Books – “Blue Planet in Green Shackles”, by Czech President Vaclav Klaus has a good reputation (though I’ve never had a chance to read it).
Ian Plimer’s “Heaven and Earth – the Missing Science” is an excellent read – a bit dry at times, but full of interesting facts and references. Got the skeptics into a frothing frenzy, which is a good sign.
Suzuki is NAZI scum – he wants to jail people who disagree with him.
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=290513

“I am in no way turned off the environmental causes I have always believed in…”
You are rather green (i.e. naive) aren’t you, Jenn.

Jenn,
stop worrying about AGW. It’s just the latest manipulation of government by fear. We have bigger problems.
What you and your peer group now need to worry about is the dissolution of democracy. All the global warming hype is a smoke screen to occupy the minds of a generation while they take us back to a globalised version of the middle ages.
Our children will not hate us for climate they will hate us for doing nothing as democracy was taken away.
If you want to “save the planet” you need to ask from what it needs saving.
Without democracy your ecological concerns (that I do not deride) will be IRRELEVANT.

Jenn, I feel for you that you were badly and rudely treated by someone you regarded as an icon; it’s always tough when the scales fall from one’s eyes as the result of a bad experience. And as you use the term ‘icon’, I am led to assume that you have, perhaps unknowingly, allowed enviromentalism to become a part of your belief sytem. In the light of your experience with Suzuki, perhaps it’s a good time for you to re-examine that faith and read the books that the posters above have suggested. Anything that purports to be based on science cannot be a matter of either faith or consensus.
I wish you all the best as you seek enlightenment.

TomRude says:
November 25, 2010 at 7:22 pm
OT: That bit on Steve McIntyre in Tim Ball’s latest Free Press is a tad over the top… not his finest in my opinion.
“Steve McIntyre provided valuable evidence of the corruption in climate science when he identified the misuse of data and statistics in the graph dubbed “the hockey stick.” He refuses to say the errors and actions taken by Michael Mann and his associates were deliberate despite overwhelming evidence. He distances himself from those more forceful in identifying their actions as deliberate.
He claims, “CA (Climate Audit) readers know that I express myself carefully and try to make my opinions as narrow and precise as possible.”
The problem is when he had opportunities to speak out, even in a narrow way he failed. At the hearing chaired by Congressman Joe Barton of Texas, he was upstaged by Mann. It’s reasonable to consider errors genuine or a result of ignorance. However, the consideration must include all the factors involved. How many errors are necessary before a pattern emerges?
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I have to say that I agree with Tim Ball……
Regardless of Steve McIntyre’s considerable strengths when analysing data, he completely fails to deliver the real message whenever he has the opportunity to do so in front of a TV camera, or, it would seem, a public audience.
He also steers clear of stating what is obvious to committed skeptics (like me), but which requires much stronger emphasis to the waverers (like my wife), that fraud and misinformation has taken over the CAGW agenda.
The CAGW loonies continually ram their fraudulent message home and unless the truth is rammed home, with the same strength and frequency, most of the world will just keep on accepting the lies of these nutters.

Jenn Carson, did you realy expect to be treated with anything but contempt by a high-priest and eco-warrior if you did not bring any offerings, meaning cold hard cash in the form of a book purchased, to the temple?

Suzuki WHO? onle left wing greenies know him we call them tomato heads red thought and thought

Jenn..
Welcome to the real world.
Come and join us on this side of the argument – we have nothing to prove but the truth….

There are a few principles that apply to anyone, anything, anytime and anywhere that can be of great value…
If you want what others have then you must do what they do. (You wanna be rich? then get smart with money! ever heard of dumb money? noooo, only smart money! Want to be an elite althete? I see they spend a lot of time down the gym, and fussing over their food, that’d be a start)
Repeating the same behaiviour and expecting a different outcome is nuts. (Sitting their, repeatedly, hitting the “enter” key wont make the error message go away)
Want to know what the future holds? Then look at history.
And the one that fits Suzuki?…
Don’t lsten to what people say. Watch what they do! Words don’t have consequences, actions do!

I grew up in Moncton and it is so good to see her returned to reality. It is also poetic that it happened in Moncton(Monckton) 🙂
We have a cake eater here in Fredericton that espouses the foolish drivel from Al Gore so I hope ever so much that he also is introduced to his eye opening moment soon too.

Wayne Delbeke says:
November 25, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Gerald Machnee says:
November 25, 2010 at 5:40 pm
“Maybe he was eating a cookie and could not respond.”
Only those of us in frozen Alberta will understand the “cookie” reference but we are sending him back to Australia where he belongs.
both him and his cookie have made it onto BBC National Radio two evenings running.

TomRude, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Dr. Ball has stood against an absolute (snip)-storm for better than thirty years. That takes some cobbles. He is eminently qualified in the courage department as well as the climate department. You may want to add that to your calculations. Trying to figure out which camp you are in.

…”I was hoping to ask him during the question period that normally follows these types of talks for advice on how to help me promote environmentalism to my group of largely apathetic students…”
I believe that he did answer the question. Even if it wasn’t asked.

Over time, I posted a number of tidbits about David Suzuki in my web pages about the Suzuki-fired hype and hysteria about global warming.
It is too bad that Jenn Carson had to make her distasteful experience with David Suzuki, but that she did so is nothing out of the ordinary. Consider this:
Liar, liar, pants on fire
Suzuki walks out of AM640 after global warming debate
AM640 Toronto Radio
Feb, 15 2007 – 3:20 PM
[Caution: The web pages at the two links shown in the following quote are a bit slow to load, as they are now only accessible in the Internet Archives.]
TORONTO – Turns out noted environmental activist Dr David Suzuki isn’t as mild mannered as you may have thought. He stormed out of our studios this morning after a debate with host John Oakley over the merits of the Kyoto Accord. Suzuki says whether the Harper government agrees or not, Canada is already on board with the plan. Oakley says he welcomes all voices in the debate. Suzuki countered by asking if he’d welcome a creationist to chat about evolution. (Full Article)
In that interview Suzuki claimed that global warming “nay-sayers” are “shilling” for “the fossil-fuel industry”, and that his foundation is funded by private individuals. The truth is quite different.
Suzuki also claimed in that interview that 2,500 scientists signed the IPCC “report”. However, the “report” was actually signed by only 51 individuals (not all of them scientists). Moreover, the “report” referred to by Suzuki is a summary of the IPCC report. The IPCC report that it summarizes has not yet been published and is scheduled for publication in July of this year. Is that perhaps to provide enough time to make its conclusions fit the IPCC “summary” – a political statement – that has been in the news for the last little while? (Check: Global warming charlatan)

I received a request for a donation from the David Suzuki Foundation. He would be so proud — I recycled it. –Edmonton Journal, Mar. 2007. Venting

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Quoted from Global Warming Explained

TonyB,
In fact that is why I respect McIntyre’s high road.

Suzuki is the Canadian pioneer of profiteering from faux environmental catastrophes. The only title which completely encompasses him is Snake Oil Salesman.

Wikipedia has a telling point on Suzuki — if true (and I have no reason to believe otherwise).

Early in his research career he studied genetics, using the popular model organism Drosophila melanogaster (fruit flies). To be able to use his initials in naming any new genes he found, he studied Drosophila temperature-sensitive phenotypes (DTS).

David Suzuki
It’s always struck me as an interesting contrast that David T. Suzuki, who has an ego the size of British Columbia, has the same last name and initials as D. T. Suzuki, the Zen writer who promotes an ego-free life.

TomRude says on November 26, 2010 at 8:32 am:
Suzuki complains that the senate killed democracy… when unelected Suzuki and Jaccard lobbied the BC government to adopt the carbon tax, when Hoggan is stirring BC Hydro’s global warming
Since BC bureaucrats can now regulate the emission of GHG’s and levy carbon taxes, they can not only seize control of the means of production but also over every aspect of the peoples’ lives.
This is what all this global warming gobbly gook and climate claptrap is really about.
Premier G. “Clueless” Campbell never figured out what Prof.’s Suzuki and Jaccard were upto.

I’m not having much sympathy for Jenn Carson after reading this: “I was hoping to ask him during the question period that normally follows these types of talks for advice on how to help me promote environmentalism to my group of largely apathetic students at Hampton High School, where I am the librarian.”
Ms. Carson, why are you “promoting” anything other than a love of reading in your public high school? I don’t care if you are interested only in reasonable environmental issues and not full blown AGW, you’re still overstepping your bounds as an educator by injecting personal interests into the classroom/library.

This fellow sounds like another case of the “do as I say” syndrome (discussed at length in a book of that title by Peter Schweizer, which I recommend).

Cam_S says:
November 26, 2010 at 10:16 am
Thanks but I’d had enough of David Suzuki before I even got to your post.

I went to Anthony Watts lecture in Australia.
After the lecture I approached him – I just wanted to say hello and how I enjoy reading WUWT regularly.
Anthony was most charming. He was genuinely pleased to have me and others just saying hi, and was happy to answer questions from other people.
Perhaps go to one of Anthony’s presentations, Ms Carson. I am sure he will make your feel welcome. And his message makes more sense than Suzuki’s.

Jason Price says:
November 26, 2010 at 6:12 am
I grew up in Moncton and it is so good to see her returned to reality. It is also poetic that it happened in Moncton(Monckton) 🙂
We have a cake eater here in Fredericton that espouses the foolish drivel from Al Gore so I hope ever so much that he also is introduced to his eye opening moment soon too.
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I imagine you have many cake eaters in Fredericton. I grew up there – wonder if I know him or her?

To understand Suzuki you must understand his childhood. He and his family were sent to internment camps in WW II. That left him with a huge subconscious chip on his shoulder, and sometimes his carefully concealed rage leaks out. His current mission is just a handy way to vent. For example:
“Update: February 10, 2008: Canadian Environmentalist David Suzuki Calls for skeptical leaders to be thrown ‘into jail’ – Excerpt: At a Montreal conference last Thursday, the prominent scientist, broadcaster and Order of Canada recipient exhorted a packed house of 600 to hold politicians legally accountable for what he called an intergenerational crime. […] “What I would challenge you to do is to put a lot of effort into trying to see whether there’s a legal way of throwing our so-called leaders into jail because what they’re doing is a criminal act,” said Dr. Suzuki, a former board member of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association. “It’s an intergenerational crime in the face of all the knowledge and science from over 20 years.”
(Sorry, lost the link to this but it is a well known incident.)
In person his sailor-like foul language reveals what lurks beneath his facade.
It is also worth noting that the CBC gave him his soapbox at the same time as the Canadian government was a Maurice Strong puppet.
Only in Canada, or at the UN, could this raging and manipulative sociopath be a member of any “(Canadian) Civil Liberties Association.”

Pat… apologies for replying so late in the game, but try your own home-grown Robert Carter, who has opened my eyes to the science of climate, especially with his book, “Climate; the Counter Consensus”.
BTW, are you having trouble with utilising your upper case keyboard button, except for acronyms? Naughty librarian!