It was the blueberries wot dun it…

Don’t you know you’re supposed to do as they say, not as they do?

that’s something that bothers me about the tentennies. They want to reduce emissions, and they also (many of them that I know) are passionate about Fair Trade food.
I’ve nothing against Fair Trade food, except when – for example – one local charity shop sold honey from Chile when there was a struggling farm selling honey up the road. But if you think that emissions are causing climate change, surely you would be against Fair Trade? As one writer said, to hold both views simultaneously takes a lot of therapy.

Now that 101010 is over I hope this means that we won’t be hearing any more from these yahoos…
Wistful thinking?

Top quality hypocrisy spotting.

lol, first they hide the decline, then they hide the data, now they’re hiding the bios!……..that’s it, just pretend it never happened! hahahahaha

Too funny, they both wear eye glasses, I guess they’d be pretty blind if it wasn’t for industrial ways. But then we’d hear them complaining about another topic I’d guess!!

Making a mockery of the organization for their “No Pressure” video was entirely appropriate, but when we continue to make fun of individual team members for their inconsistent (but ultimately trivial) food choices, I feel that’s taking things bit too far. It achieves nothing and borders on just being mean.
Golden rule. Let’s not forget it.
REPLY: I hear you, but hey, I’d have nothing to talk about if they hadn’t taken out the bios. The golden rule is good, so is the first rule of holes. But after this, I can’t imagine they’d want to do anything else to call attention to themselves. So, it will probably fade away quickly, much like the Catlin expedition. – Anthony

The best thing to do with this bunch of self-important misfits is to simply ignore them.
Not easy when they’re in bed with the Guardian perhaps but a sea change is coming to the UK. People are having to wake up to the reality of telephone number debt levels produced by a decade of socialist nut jobs in government. Dealing with that will hit the air-freighted consumer air-heads the hardest. Back to basics for the fluffy triviatta of North London then, no more blueberries and cheap imported designer label frippery. Let them eat cake, learn to love turnips and do something productive again.

I wonder what their favourite movie was??? It didn’t say on the bios, But i bet it’s revenge of the nerds!!!!!! Someone should tell them that stuff only happens in the movies and not reality!!!!HAHAHA!!!

This Eco-economy that offers products made out-of-sight, out-of-mind is for the globalist corporate birds.
Put a cap on import quotas to make room for the struggling honey farms down the road.
When the struggling small business owners finally have a market in their own backyard for thier products, and begin hiring, only then will this Great Recession end.

We grow blueberries and Sauvignon blanc here in Washington State. I plan to continue picking my own blueberries but to the New Zealand winegrowers I pledge to take up the slack when Maddy Carroll gives up her guilty pleasure. And Maddy, if you stop by here, I’ll pour you a glass of Cloudy Bay.

I’m with you Madds when it come to fine wines. The 19,000 kms “food miles” can go to hell and those eco fascist greenies you work with each day can go jump in the lake when it come to self indulgent pleasures.
Couldn’t make this stuff up.
Thanks for the laugh Anthony.

Here is the irrepressible, unrepentant ,burner of fossil fuels in copious amounts,
Iowahawk:
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/
caution, adult content, and lots of smoke and noise generated in the making of his current post…
Happy 10:10 -one other thing wasn’t 10:10 the anniversary of Che Guevara’s
well deserved death?

This post is mean spirited and beneath you, Anthony Watts.
But verrrrrry funny.

AJB –
“sea change in the UK” – not likely:
11 Oct 2010: Guardian: Mark Sweney: Government’s £6m climate change ads cleared
Ofcom has cleared a controversial £6m government ad campaign on climate change, which featured images of the UK wracked by floods and drought, after more than 500 complaints that it was a form of political advertising that broke the broadcasting code…
The complainants to Ofcom argued that the TV ad, which featured a father telling his daughter a scary bedtime story based on the impact of climate change, broke broadcast rules banning political advertising.
According to the Communications Act, the government is allowed to run advertising of a public service nature, such as warnings about obesity or drink driving, but is not allowed to run political ads that aim to “influence public opinion on a matter of public controversy”.
However, the Communications Act does allow exceptions for advertisements which qualify as being of a “public service nature”, such as those promoting healthy eating, armed forces recruitment, tax self assessment and road safety.
Ofcom noted that there is “ongoing and polarised” debate on climate change but that there is a “broad level of consensus across the major political parties”….
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/oct/11/government-climate-change-ad
reminder:
ACTONCO2 “Bedtime Stories” TV advertisement, October 2009

Are any of the people on “the team” aged over 40? Doesn’t look like it from the photo. Certainly there is not much experience to be found on the 10:10 team. Perhaps if they would listen to their elders they would know some history and not repeat the mistakes that others have made. But they have no elders on their team to speak to them. No wonder they are blundering fools.

pat wrote:
http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_16305629?nclick_check=1
“While the immediate point of the 10-10-10 projects was to make a practical
difference, another was to send a political message, 350.org founder Bill
McKibben said in a statement. “When they put down their shovels, many will
pick up their cell phones to call their leaders and say, ‘We’re getting to
work. What about you?’ ””
These guys use cellphones? What a waste of resources. They should reduce CO2 emissions and use public phones when calling their local reps. Remember, members of the eco-community, do your duty and reduce your emissions. Buy local produce, do not travel long distances or use airliners, do not buy products that are shipped from overseas on carbon emitting ships, planes or inter-state diesel trucks. Do not buy anything made of oil. This includes pharmaceuticals and anything made of plastic or uses lubricants. Do not marry. Do not have children. Both are wasteful and use valuable resources.
Reduce your CO2 footprint.
Reserve space in your local community cave.
You know it makes sense.
This message brought to you by “r u a hypocrite”

pat says:
October 11, 2010 at 9:10 pm
Bedtime stories: Ebeneezer Scrooge and Tiny Tim all over again.

Here you go Anthony, the real red button Franny should have stuck with…..
http://www.webworksllc.com/I_Like_You.cfm

Proud to be from the land producing Sauvignon Blanc for Maddy. I get excellent quality Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc for NZD8.99 a bottle at my nearby supermarket (that’s about USD6.73 or GBP4.23 at today’s rates). We have good blueberries too, but I don’t know if they reach Franny’s table.
The idea that air travel and air transport are evil is one of the wackiest ideas of the eco-movement. I fly (when I do so) because it is the cheapest, quickest and most energy-efficient way of getting myself from A to B. Ditto for the wine and fruit on Franny’s and Maddy’s tables. They have nothing to be guilty about. If they did a detailed cost and energy audit (I am not sure such a thing is possible, but I believe some have tried), they might find that the locally produced wine and food takes more energy and fossil fuels to produce than the imported stuff. That’s one reason it’s more expensive.
All the best.

Breathe deeply. Try and stay calm.
Whilst this blog is falling about laughing at the hypocrisy of Franny’s out of season blueberries or Maddy’s NZ wine, you should note that these are GUILTY pleasures. That is, things that you know you shouldn’t do and which therefore make you feel guilty. In the context of an eco-fanatic website the only logically permissible entries under ‘guilty pleasures’ would be environmental ‘misdeeds’.
They know the food miles involved in their pleasures: that is why they are ‘guilty’ about it.
All this talk of hypocrisy is therefore missing the point. Just think of the eco-religious fervour that is implicit in the phrase ‘guilty pleasures’ and the rather creepy public ‘confessions’ of failings by the tentenners. Ecofascism IS a religion.
Let’s save our outrage for the way ecofascist activism has infiltrated educational systems around the world and got kids squandering their days in ‘ignorant goodwill’. Now THAT really gets me hyperventilating.

These folks are too young to know how wrong they are. But, life will beat they hell out of them, just like it does everyone else, and they may come to feel ashamed of what they are now. With how what they are doing blew up in their faces the past 2 weeks the lessons may have already started.

Seems self indulgent in itself that they used time and expenses to create these pages describing themselves in the first place. Why does having these bio pages help to save the world? The time and money could have been used somewhere else. Maybe they don’t really feel a real urgency that the world needs saving.
But here I am pointing out things that don’t add up, again, in ‘global warming’.
Does Al Gore still ride in a Gulfstream Jet?

@ScottD, 10:48: Peccavi!
Watts: an honest mistake… be at peace my son…
@ScottD: Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa!
And there I was thinking the tentenners were spookily religious…

Ha, I bet they all puff away on tobacco as well, that’s the most obvious sign of the Eco hypocrite like leanardo decraprio who chain smokes through his movies while narrating an agw scare movie or the Goracle from a family of tobacco growers!
Like blueberries and NZ wine tobacco is a far far worse contribututer to CO2 just in the worldwide distribution chain before accounting for the methane and additional greenhouse gases with the smoking itself.

At first I though this post was amusing, but on reflection it is missing the point.
These “guilty pleasures” are a light-hearted and self-confessed list of things that would lead the 10:10 people to break their environmental principles – at least occasionally. You can’t call them hypocrites for being honest.
OTOH it is another example where a feeble attempt at humour by 10:10 has back-fired.

Sorry to spoil the fun but New Zealand wines ( wonderful stuff) is imported by sea to the UK, which I am told by my local wine dealer, improves the stuff in much the same way as India Pale Ale did after being sent to India. I imagine that fuel is still burned by the ships, but somewhat less than by aircraft. Wine, unlike blueberries keeps rather better once bottled so time is not a factor.
Cheers!

Slightly interesting (I hope) is the way that the Gaurdian seems to have dropped the UK 10:10 campaign anywhere. They have a puff article showing pictures of the big day – not that I noticed anything locally here mind.
Loads of pictures of happy, smiling, eco people. Nothing wrong with that.
No pics from 10:10.
All from 350.org.
You know, the people who divorced themselves from 10:10.

Jenn Oates says:
October 11, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Au contraire, Jenn. We don’t have the sort of budgets the Alarmists have and need all the friends we can get …
Pointman

Here’s what I found, sorry if any repeats from other commenters.
http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team
Ayesha Garrett:
Guilty pleasure: Avocados [Jimbo notes-do avocados grow wild in the UK?]
Alexis Rowell:
Guilty pleasures: High speed trains, ice skating rinks,
Duncan Clark
Guilty pleasure: Cut flowers. [Jimbo notes-flown in or home grown?]

Reduce CO2, get the 10;10 team to stop breathing.
Hypocrisy rules OK!

Am I alone in thinking that enough fun has been poked at this bunch? They were after all only calling for a 10% reduction and I think it is unrealistic for any campaigner to be held 100% to their own hair shirt principles? They do after all describe their pleasures as guilty.
I think that those of us who believe that their alarmism is misplaced, and I am certainly one of them, are not helping ourselves with this rather puerile continual p***-taking.
I do not want to be brought down to their level, and difficult to resist as it may be , I would suggest a line be drawn under this. I do not think it looks good.
I would not suggest for one moment that it be forgotten, however.

Nobody likes having their hypocrisy exposed …… and there is nothing better than exposing it ….
Reminds me of when the Hustler King Larry Flint exposed all the sordid little affairs of those trying to depose Bill Clinton.

I honestly, I just can’t see the point of this.
Certainly the video was stilted, unfunny, divisive, ineffective and puerile. That much we can agree on.
But as far as this woman’s profile comments go, there’s a reason it’s listed in a straightforward manner as a *guilty* pleasure and not just a pleasure; the writer knows full well that it clashes with the principles of the site and acknowledges it’s a (human) weakness.
The whole point of stating it is to hold her hands up in a “nobody’s perfect” fashion.
You didn’t unearth this as a piece of investigative journalism, so I don’t understand why you’re parading this particular woman’s head on a pole.
“Uncovering” these statements doesn’t weaken their position one little bit – not that it matters because, God knows, they’re in a totally buggered and indefensible position anyway as far as the facts are concerned.
But harping on this particular theme is pointless – you’ve missed the point of these statements appearing alongside the profiles.

I don’t care where the berries come from – just so long as somebody knows how to ferment them.

Barry Woods
There are many, many *substantive* reasons why they should be criticised.
Confessing a liking for blueberries / wine and indicating in the same breath that they acknowledge it’s a “guilty” pleasure / weakness just isn’t one of them; this is a rare misjudgement.

Maddy Carroll:
“I am trying a full year of public transport having found myself carless for the first time in a decade.Strangely liberating.”
That doesn’t sound to me like she was totally committed to public transport before she became carless if she had been driving for a decade. A decade of driving!!?? Not exactly an eco warrier then.
“Favourite 10:10er Vivienne Westwood”
Vivienne Westwood’s clothes – fabulous but the woman’s barking if you’ve ever heard her speak, especially about “global warming”.
I notice that she was head of PR of Ecotricity. Ecotricity is a company I know well – and ask Christopher Booker about them – I cannot continue as the rest of this response would be a long line of expletives. Suffice it to say that Ecotricity are trying to put up wind “parks” where they are not wanted, where there is not enough wind, close to houses, and won’t take no for an answer, presumably because of the squillions they can extract through subsidies. ‘Nuff said.
These people make their living moving around from one green sanctimonious project to the next, never actually “doing” anything productive, hectoring and lecturing all the while, and drawing a salary (where does the money come from?).
I would find it “strangely liberating” if she went back to archeology, presumably something she knows about – how about sending her on a dig to discover Viking settlements in Medieval Warm Period Greenland?
Ugh.

Jimbo @ 1:13am.
Avocados growing wild in the UK? We’ll need a heck of a lot more global warming before that happens!

A lot of people seem to be missing the point. This post is up because the children at 10:10 are apparently embarassed by their own admissions (or should it be emissions?) and have attempted to hide the page from public view. I think that action, more than anything else, makes them fair game for critical comment.
Re John McManus
I Googled “blueberry consumption in England” and got from a Latin AQmericam web site (http://www.latinamerican-markets.com/chile—blueberry-production):
“We’ve seen an explosion in UK blueberry consumption over the past two to three years,” says Hortifrut’s Francisco Ortuzar. “Unlike some other parts of Europe, the market is familiar with blueberries and category managers have done a good job of promoting the fruit.”
The Chilean season began in late October and while it is early days, marketers have reported a good start to the season. “For the past few weeks, weather conditions have been excellent,” Ortuzar said in mid-November. “We’re in good shape for the new season in terms of volumes and marketing activities.”
Now where in England do you suppose blueberries are grown during the winter?

So these are the gentle people who thought that depicting young children’s heads exploding in a classroom was “extremely funny”…
This organization needs to be defunded NOW!
And I will NOT do any more business with Sony, O2, and any of the other companies that originally supported these deviants…

Cadae says:
October 11, 2010 at 11:12 pm
The pronunciation is a no-brainer, but the choice of spelling is tricky – do you emphasize the consumption or the hiding – Berrygate or Burygate ?
Tony B (another one) says:
October 11, 2010 at 11:46 pm
@Cadae
It has to be Buryberrygate, surely?
Sounds just like a disease to me, which is exactly what these eco-mentalists are.
—-
Thank you both, I laughed so hard I choked on my coffee 🙂
I see Maddy Carroll studied archaeology. Didn’t she notice the Phoenican warm period, the Roman warm period, the Medieval warm period, the Little Ice Age, etc etc? Did she ever wonder why the MWP is also called the MCO – Medieval Climate Optimum? You know, optimum, like best? Honestly, I have to wonder whether they even teach people to think these days.
Blueberries and ice-cream for tea tonight, I think.

Pulling the bios was just plain silly. In today’s connected, always on, never off, ship anywhere, buy anywhere market economy it would be darn hard to not incur some element of 1000km plus transportation in everyday life. The only sensible thing you can do is try to reduce it by practical means – for instance I grow veggies, keep chickens etc – can’t do much about clothing and other items – not really practical to make my own socks…
I’m also fond of NZ wine, but I don’t beat myself up over it – BTW the best NZ wine remains in NZ…

Ed says:
October 11, 2010 at 7:23 pm
one local charity shop sold honey from Chile when there was a struggling farm selling honey up the road.

Going back a few years in the UK the high street Charity Shops didn’t have to pay business rates… so with a few volunteers, tax breaks plus some government grants and subsidies they decimated the local high street while swelling their coffers.
With all this additional money they then increased their publicity budgets and fund raising activities so they could open even more Charity Shops… now that is what I call a really good business model… especially as some lucky Charity Executive could then jet-off with the small change to some poor benighted sunshine state where their good works would undercut and decimate local businesses.
I think they called this original business model Sustainable Development because it helped the Charities grow into big businesses aka NGOs… but still they wanted more… so now this business model has expanded into Renewable Energy which is managing to renew their coffers while decimating more that just the western high street… I think they now call this business model Killing The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg

1010 UK… are you sure?
Darn, I could have sworn that they were from Santa Cruz, California. It was the dirty hair & dirty T-shirts & wool scafs in summer… I mean, saving on shampoo & not doing any laundry either. Save the world… don’t wash!
Santa Cruz, after Burlington, Vermont, is the (2nd) capital of the world for old VW busses… they are everywhere! So well painted too… rainbows, rainbows, everywhere. And coffee shops blaring: “Free the chilly coffee pickers of Chile!” Rasta-mon everywhere… they don’t use shampoo & insist on wearing wool caps in the California sun… Puuuuuu

John McManus says:
“October 12, 2010 at 3:20 am
When I googled ” blueberry harvest England”, the first return was from freshplaza.com, 9/2/2010.
They state ” recent wet weather has produced a huge crop of blueberries”.
You were told two days ago that blueberries are a European crop. Do you never `factcheck? Who writes your stuff Wegman?”
Blueberries (Vaccinium myrtillus) grow WILD almost all over Europe, but they are not the same species as the farmed north american blueberries (Vaccinium corymbosum and Vaccinium angustifolium). The european species tastes a lot better, but is only available fresh for a short period in autumn, and are not at all easy to farm.
You said something about factchecking?

“You were told two days ago that blueberries are a European crop. Do you never `factcheck? Who writes your stuff Wegman?”
You have missed the point completely. Her guilty secret is not blueberries as such but “blueberries not in season.” i.e specifically not the regional crop.

Wat:
Please tell me how the phrase “blueberries not in season” is not the regional crop. Blueberries can be stored.
What we have here is poor old Tony, desperate for attention, galloping to a conclusion without a fact to go on or a thought in his head. He obviously ahsn’t concidered blueberries and the chunnel. What makes this even more pitiful is the minor nature of the complaint.
Its OK. No pressure.

It was the strawberries blueberries . . .
I liked Humphrey Bogart in the role.
[Consider, if not for her being a vegetarian . . . then it would probably have been imported New Zealand lamb.]
John

mrsean2k, Would it be OK if we just called the entire carbon fueled world economy a guilty pleasure. Since we would be admitting guilt and all it shouldn’t be subject to scrutiny?
Notice that the 10:10 gang’s “guilty pleasures” are presented to either #1 show how environmentally pious they are because they tear their hearts out over the most mundane of environmental sins or #2 demonstrate how simple yet sophistiqué their tastes are. What a bunch of phonies. yet people will defend them to the ends of the Earth.

@Justa Joe
Perhaps some people will defend them to the ends of the earth: I certainly don’t. I haven’t made many posts here or on other climate blogs, but finding any one of them would make it pretty clear where my sympathies lie.
My issue with this particular post is that it’s a rare dead duck; the hypocrisy being trumpeted here is already acknowledged as such in the original text, so the reveal falls flat.
And, IMO, it *does* leave open the door for people to accuse WUWT of unnecessarily harassing the individuals involved (and yes, yes, yes, I *know* it’s small beer compared to the sentiment of the original wretched advertisement, but our standards *should* be higher).
Anyway, enough time wasted on this particular tangent – the rate of CAGW fallout is so high it’s getting difficult to keep up.

mrsean2k, I really wasn’t refering to you as defending the 10:10 gang. It was more directed at the trolls. I disagree with you that the 10:10 gang’s hypocrisy can be let slide because they acknowledge their own hypocrisy in selected minor issues. In fact it is silly to admit to minor selected “guilty pleasures” when someone like Ms. Frannie uses as much or more energy than anybody else does.
As far as piling on the 10:10 gang. All they’re getting is a few people poking fun at their pomposity. A slice of humble pie would serve them well. On the other hand the 10:10 gang and their fellow travelers are costing people their Livelihoods, retarding development in Africa, and costing people big money (that need their money), and they do this without batting an eyelash.
If you haven’t seen “Not Evil Just Wrong” there is a scene towards the end where a very sincere mother of a lower middle class family in Kentucky poses a question to the warmists as to why are they promoting policies (anti-coal) that would harm her ability to support her family. The warmist gave trite responses and pretty much laughed at her with one “green” gal saying that she would like to smack her. If there are people that need to be admonished for what they’re doing to others it’s the warmists not the realists.

http://www.1010global.org/uk/about/inside/team/peter-yeo
Guilty pleasure: Crave warmth, so long showers (especially with an oil-fired boiler) and the odd sauna.
“Crave warmth”, Peter Yeo?

Their webpage is ugly and loads slowly. Why am I not surprised they fail at being anonymous? I guess for them, hindsight is 10:10.