Josh on 10:10's Splattergate Goregate

Oh golly, karma comes full circle with this one.

Cartoon by Josh, of www.cartoonsbyjosh.com

BTW,  note to other bloggers: Josh encourages distribution of this cartoon, just cite it as I’ve done above – Anthony

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October 5, 2010 8:18 am

Great stuff Josh, keep ’em coming.
‘Rage of Stupid’ might work just on its own? Anyhow, great caption.

BBD
October 5, 2010 8:21 am

Ah, dear old Franny and chums. Rarely have so many owed so much to so few…
BTW, I hear that Sony UK has just dumped 10:10. If true (and I believe that it is) other big sponsors will surely follow suit.

Shytot
October 5, 2010 8:25 am

Like it -couldn’t we call it Al’s new film – An Inconvenient Spoof ?

October 5, 2010 8:29 am

Josh,
Funny. Aren’t you letting old Eugenie, Franny, Daniel, Lizzie and the whole 10:10 team off a little to easy.
Can’t you get into that edgy ‘British’ Curtis genre stuff?
Love your stuff.
John

kwik
October 5, 2010 8:32 am

No More Gore!
No More Gore!
I think we should call this video “An Inconvenient Gore” !

Leon Brozyna
October 5, 2010 8:41 am

More British humor here than in that infamous 10:10 snuff film.

Golf Charley
October 5, 2010 8:49 am

I love it, but agree that there is more scope here for Josh, and he could hit harder.

REPLY:
This is probably just one of many to come – Anthony

FergalR
October 5, 2010 8:52 am

I can’t believe O2 are still supporting the creeps who made it. I’ll be switching to another provider if they don’t come to their senses.
Tesco – the biggest supermarket chain in the UK – runs a mobile phone service which uses O2’s infrastructure. I’ll be letting them know why I’m not shopping with them anymore if it comes to that too.

edmh
October 5, 2010 9:04 am

Now we know exactly how they think !!!
Never forget that this 10:10 group amongst many others is also funded by UK Government agencies including the Carbon Trust and the Energy Saving Trust. If these Quangos, (Quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations), have managements that think like this and have let this outrage happen, they should all have their funding terminated by a government who is trying to save money.
This is especially so when one considers the futility of Man-made Climate Control by the reduction of CO2 emissions.
See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy0_SNSM8kg
10:10 supporters on their website are:
SPONSORS
O2: is the UK’s leading provider of mobile phones, broadband and SIMs. O2 is partnering with 10:10 as part of its Think Big initiative and will be selling 10:10 Tags in its shops across the UK
Note that Sony and Kyocera have already been withdrawn as sponsors
etc.

Henry chance
October 5, 2010 9:38 am

Too much gore from alGore and his circle.
From the Saul Alinsky playbook, they apply ridicule. Especially when they have no science. Now the ridicule is back at them.

FergalR
October 5, 2010 9:42 am

The Guardian are still pushing 10:10.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/oct/05/government-department-energy-use
Are they punch drunk or are the red buttons real?

RockyRoad
October 5, 2010 9:42 am

Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of people.

redneck
October 5, 2010 9:55 am

Shytot October 5, 2010 at 8:25 am
LOL

Jeremy
October 5, 2010 9:56 am

When I stop and think about how this must have come about, presuming these people are not operating under the any-publicity-at-any-cost kind of mindset, I have to think that the script for this short film came about in a laugh session at a meeting.
We’ve all been there, a brainstorming session of some kind, and someone makes a ridiculous suggestion half-teasing/half-serious, and it somehow blossoms into something that is at least seriously considered if not attempted. I have to think that these people, perhaps meaning well, had a brainstorming session about how to get their message across and someone half-jokingly/half-serious pipes up, “What if we make the deniers heads explode?”
In retrospect, the laughter that must have come from the utterance of those words is quite disturbing to me.
And of course, desperate as the environmental activists are to get control of the message again, they simply turned off all the filters and ran with the ridiculous suggestion. All the while they were convincing themselves that it was “funny” because they were only “fake” getting rid of people they disagree with. Not one of them was able to step outside of their own belief structure/paradigm and see what they were really saying, “Eliminate the undesireables”
You are seeing into the inner workings of human madness, my friends.

October 5, 2010 10:08 am

Gore-gate really doesn’t work … all the “gates” have two or more syllable precursors, as in the daddy of them all, wa-ter-gate. And besides that, Gore-gate doesn’t scan …
Splattergate, splattergate, ten-ten Fran,
Blow up a kid as fast as you can,
Roll it, pat it, explode it for free,
Save all the Carbon for baby and me.
Now, there’s one for Josh to get his teeth stuck into.

Justa Joe
October 5, 2010 10:27 am

This episode proves what a dead-ender Davey Gould really is. While portraying himself on WUWT as the the very soul of moderation and reason Ol’ Davey defended this POS video to the very bitter end. Even as 10:10 bailed, The sponsors bailed, and the public was almost universally outraged Ol’ Davey insisted that there was absolutely nothing wrong with the video, and it was in fact the people that objected to the video that were wrong. If I read Dave correctly he thought that the video was wonderful because it poked fun at the over sensitivity of Skeptics.

SteveSadlov
October 5, 2010 10:27 am

Meanwhile in other news … unnnnnnnnnnprecedennnnnnnnnnted early snows in California, Scotland, Finland, France, Switzerland, Italy, India …
I know, I know, weather, not climate.

Stefan
October 5, 2010 10:38 am

What was the reasoning behind the film? Watching the interview on YouTube with Franny, you can see how she believes that ordinary life doing a job and sitting in traffic is “pointless”. She wants to do something meaningful, something which ordinary people are too selfish, deluded, or dim to appreciate. I don’t get that she’s a terribly mature person — they want to change the world but don’t understand what’s important to ordinary people. So then the Frannys get frustrated because people don’t listen, and out of frustration they start making jokes about violence.

Steve R
October 5, 2010 10:38 am

There has been little mention of this Gorefest in the MSM in the UK! Frankly that’s not good enough – whatever happened to investigative reporting?
I’ve just written to the Carbon Trust in the UK to ask that they distance themselves from this or explain why they support it. I’ll post their reply here too, assuming they reply!! My letter:-
Dear Sir / Madam,
It is my understanding that your organisation is associated with and partly funds the 10:10 organisation. http://www.1010global.org/uk
You must by now be aware of their recently released short film that under the pretext of good causes displays extreme and lethal violence towards those not following the central tenet advocated by 10:10? It includes as a central point extreme violence against children and other members of the public at large. The underlying message within the film is that those in disagreement with “the cause” can be terminated thus cajoling everyone else into the same belief system.
To be clear – the stance as taken by 10:10 is fundamentally the same bullying tactic used by terrorists. Surely the position of supporting such an argument is considered untenable to yourselves and more specifically your funding decision makers?
I simply ask for confirmation that the carbon trust distances itself from 10:10, publically removing funding and any support. If however it is the carbon trusts’ position that it supports the public actions of 10:10 could you please indicate that this is in fact the case and indeed explain why funds supplied by UK citizens, myself included, are being used in this fashion?
Please reply by return.

Fred
October 5, 2010 10:41 am

With full apologies to Big Jim & Billie Sol . . .
The money line is at 45 seconds “So Bilie Sol, what’s yer opinion of the recent films coming in from Europe?

them 10:10 fellers blow’d themselves up real good eh?

Curiousgeorge
October 5, 2010 10:41 am

@ Jeremy says:
October 5, 2010 at 9:56 am
………………………………………………You are seeing into the inner workings of human madness, my friends.

I agree. And I also think we have not seen the last of this kind of thing, either in the context of climate or other fanatical “causes” . And not all will be “pretend” film productions. As the disease progresses each new one will try to “top” the last one. The justification given is that the last one failed to accomplish the objective, so more and more violent means are obviously required “to get the message across”. We’ve seen this progression time and time again.

John in NZ
October 5, 2010 10:46 am

Our two weapons are fear, suprise and a ruthless devotion to Al Gore. Sorry,
Our three weapons…

Russell C
October 5, 2010 11:23 am

Wait for it……. (Josh may have to draw a cartoon of Greenpeace’s lemonade stand)
SplatterGate: When Greenpeace is given lemons, they make lemonade http://www.freedompub.org/profiles/blogs/splattergate-when-greenpeace
Excerpt: “In this case, the Greenpeace spokesperson once again deflects the narrative back to their propaganda about scheming skeptics, and you know this will soon be regurgitated by left-wing bloggers in viral form. Thus, the fundamental premise of the video is promoted after all – anybody with opposing viewpoints must be viewed with suspicion. “

huxley
October 5, 2010 11:26 am

In addition to violent video fantasies, the climate change movement has brought us:
* James Lee, a climate change terrorist, who took hostages at the Discovery Channel. He had an “awakening” after watching Al Gore’s flim, “An Inconvenient Truth.”
* An Argentine couple, who last March shot their baby, then killed themselves in a suicide pact because of global warming. Fortunately the baby survived.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/7344329/Baby-survives-parents-global-warming-suicide-pact.html
I know that it’s not fair to tar the entire movement with these three brushstrokes; nonetheless, it seems possible, even likely, we will see more of this as the climate change agenda is frustrated.

Leo R
October 5, 2010 11:28 am

Totally sick video, from the minds of totally sick individuals. Here is Richard Curtis talking about his movie, with some cameos from Franny Armstrong and Ed Miliband.
http://eyetube.me/play/YouTwat/Richard_Curtis_Talks_About_1010_No_Pressure

Scott Basinger
October 5, 2010 11:38 am

Fred: Whoooooeeee they blowed up real good!
Thanks for the SCTV clip, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Dave
October 5, 2010 11:43 am

Perhaps I need professional help… while I thought the video was vile, juvenile, and utterly outrageous, I did find it somewhat amusing when Gillian Anderson blew up (or perhaps it was just her moribund career that did).

October 5, 2010 11:59 am

On a related note, Al Gore gets jeered in Tampa, FL.

October 5, 2010 12:00 pm

Leo, that video is a spoof put together by someone seeking to make Curtis look as ridiculous as possible. He’s talking about some previous film and they’ve overlaid with shots of the 10:10 disaster. Although I despised the original No Pressure – and still do – this kind of thing is not helping, in my view. Let’s stick to the truth, that’s material enough.

Jeremy
October 5, 2010 12:03 pm

Russell C says:
October 5, 2010 at 11:23 am

http://www.freedompub.org/profiles/blogs/splattergate-when-greenpeace
Excerpt: “In this case, the Greenpeace spokesperson once again deflects the narrative back to their propaganda about scheming skeptics, and you know this will soon be regurgitated by left-wing bloggers in viral form. Thus, the fundamental premise of the video is promoted after all – anybody with opposing viewpoints must be viewed with suspicion. “

Ugh, I find it hard to wrap my head around enviro-bloggers repeating what Greenpeace said:

“As an organization committed to non-violence, I think you can imagine how Greenpeace views this material. At this time, the only people promoting the material are climate skeptics and think tanks funded by corporations known for lobbying against climate change legislation,” said Greenpeace spokeswoman Jane Kochersperger.

With deadpan absurdity like that, who needs lies?

John R T
October 5, 2010 12:08 pm

Jeremy:
¨You are seeing into the inner workings of human madness, my friends.¨
In the States, a parent/guardian must sign releases for minors involved in many activities – especially working on media sets. These waivers protect the sponsors from future claims for compensation. The children in 10:10´s filth may need counselling, due to their work on this horrific, sadistic, inhumane portrayal of Green madness. Who will pay for the therapy? I wonder, thirty years from now, will the ´artists´ responsible be able to claim a Roman Polanski defense?
This NYT article offers insight: how do emerging adults find meaning?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/magazine/22Adulthood-t.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=20%20somethings&st=cse

M White
October 5, 2010 12:11 pm

The video got a mention on the Beeb website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11458726
“Environmental campaigners axe gory film”

Latimer Alder
October 5, 2010 12:16 pm

Josh
You da man!
May your pen forever drip with wit and your talents be more widely appreciated.
From a personal perspective more vitriol would be good too, but I guess this is a family show………..

Neil
October 5, 2010 12:20 pm

Rather than Splattergate or Goregate, I’d go with Redbladder.

Jeremy
October 5, 2010 12:23 pm

BTW, somewhat related. I don’t know how many of you know of smbc-comics. It’s not always a work-friendly strip, but it is typically very engineer/geeky/science-themed. Here’s today’s which IS work safe (or is it yesterdays?), and strangely on-topic for this thread.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2021#comic

Mister Creosote
October 5, 2010 12:25 pm

[snip – no valid email address per policy page ~mod]

Chris S
October 5, 2010 12:26 pm

No pressuregate?

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
October 5, 2010 12:29 pm

Brilliant, Josh!
It’s good to see, as well, that 10:10’s “partners” are taking appropriate action. But it’s something they should have done on October 1, as soon as the movie was released (at the very latest).
The disclaimers to the effect that they “didn’t know”, seem rather lame to me. Franny sent out an E-mail to all 10:10-ers on Oct. 1 (urging all to circulate so it would “go viral”); it seems highly unlikely that she would have excluded board of directors and corporate partner contacts.
Which brings me to the question … why did they take so long before taking action? Were they all hoping it would all just blow over?!

Bruce Cobb
October 5, 2010 12:45 pm

Jeremy says:
October 5, 2010 at 9:56 am
You are seeing into the inner workings of human madness, my friends.
The madness continues:

It’s almost as if they are in full self-destruct mode.

RichieP
October 5, 2010 1:22 pm

Leo R says:
October 5, 2010 at 11:28 am
‘http://eyetube.me/play/YouTwat/Richard_Curtis_Talks_About_1010_No_Pressure’
There are a number of other parodies of No Pressure on this (independent) site. The Dictator’s Cut is utterly graphic and chillingly brutal in its cut-in parallels with the very real atrocities of other totalitarian states (as well as some pieces of Schindler’s List). Only watch it if you have a strong stomach and expect to be shocked. The political point it makes is nevertheless absolutely bang on the nail and utterly relevant to the psychopathic message of No Pressure.

ROM
October 5, 2010 1:31 pm

OUCH!
I [ love ] Gore!
That is a one superb bit of satire, Josh.

Polyester Mather
October 5, 2010 1:31 pm

Is Blackadder’s author channeling what the Muppet Show did to earlier Mad Men in this spot on spot ad spoof?

Adult Muppet: “What do you think about Gonella Bread?”
Child Muppet:
 “I don’t like it.”

Big Muppet grabs giant cannon from offstage, blows little Muppet to smithereens &aims barrel at audience,
” Now what do YOU think about Gonella Bread? ”
Will Cuccinelli offer Deputy Attorney General Baldrick a 25 turnip reward for wiping out kiddy genocide on PBS?

Editor
October 5, 2010 1:37 pm

Shytot – an inconvenient spoof – very very funny!
And yes, more to come, this was a toe in the water, it being a rather sensitive topic.

pat
October 5, 2010 1:40 pm

educating the young….for what?
4 Oct: Gamerant: This week in mobile gaming
This week we hang out with the Duke, save the planet by wiping out humanity…
Super Mega Worm: The title alone is pretty epic. As the great death worm, Wojira, you must save the Earth by annihilating the entire human race…
A buck in the app store.
http://gamerant.com/week-mobile-gaming-october-2nd-2010-jon-44112/
1 Oct: CNET: Joel Parker: Share text files and kill all humans: iPhone apps of the week
Super Mega Worm (99 cents) is a fun and unique 2D side-scrolling game where the mission is to “Destroy all Humans!” ..
http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20018355-12.html
PocketGamer: iPhone News: Super Mega Worm
The destruction of all things human is your goal as you undulate your giant annelid through the soil, breaking the surface to chomp down on the cows, people, ostriches, police cars, and young mothers with strollers who wander above.
Indeed, your super mega worm is a ruthless creature, leaving bloodstains on the ground and mothers’ cries of “My Baby!” hanging in the air. The super mega worm doesn’t care, of course…
http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhone/Super+Mega+Worm/review.asp?c=23334

Editor
October 5, 2010 1:43 pm

I love the suggestions above too!

Ken Hall
October 5, 2010 1:48 pm

“BTW, I hear that Sony UK has just dumped 10:10. If true (and I believe that it is) other big sponsors will surely follow suit.”
I thought that there was only O2 left.

David
October 5, 2010 1:51 pm

I received this from O2. Media Studies graduate Sarah is sticking up for the eco-nazis. But I doubt that her bosses will be for much longer.
Dear ******
Thank you for your message sent via the Think Big website.
Along with 100,000 members of the public, leading businesses, schools and
universities, local authorities and NHS Trusts, O2 supports the aims of the 10:10
campaign.
We acknowledge our responsibility to the environment and are committed to reducing
our carbon emissions both as an organisation and in society as a whole.
10:10 is an independent organisation and we don’t ask for editorial control over the
content of its campaigns. 10:10’s latest statement on this issue can be viewed on
its website at http://www.1010global.org/uk
Kind regards
Sarah

Richard Sharpe
October 5, 2010 2:15 pm

David says on October 5, 2010 at 1:51 pm

I received this from O2. Media Studies graduate Sarah is sticking up for the eco-nazis. But I doubt that her bosses will be for much longer.
Dear ******
Thank you for your message sent via the Think Big website.
Along with 100,000 members of the public, leading businesses, schools and
universities, local authorities and NHS Trusts, O2 supports the aims of the 10:10
campaign.
We acknowledge our responsibility to the environment and are committed to reducing
our carbon emissions both as an organisation and in society as a whole.
10:10 is an independent organisation and we don’t ask for editorial control over the
content of its campaigns. 10:10′s latest statement on this issue can be viewed on
its website at http://www.1010global.org/uk
Kind regards
Sarah

Perhaps, in light of their duty to their shareholders, they should have asked for more details and a right of refusal to be listed on their web site as a sponsor.

David L. Hagen
October 5, 2010 2:21 pm

Copy of letter to:

César Alierta, Chairman and CEO
Telefonica, O2
Chairman Alierta
Thank you for your effort on: “Think Big youth projects
Challenging young people to lead positive change in their community.”
You also claim: “We’re working with you to protect your children.”
You advise: “What to do if your child is affected by bullying. Step 1: The first thing you may wish to do is to get your child’s school involved.”
These affirm Jesus’ teaching: “Do unto others as you would have them do to you.”
However, O2 is supporting 10:10 UK. Though claiming to act for the environment, 10:10 UK is destroying our foundational Rule of Law. By their video “No Pressure”, they promote teachers violently murdering children who do not agree with their advocacy. This directly contradicts your corporate policies.
One of the child actors stated: “I think it is vital that children should be exploded in a good cause”. This is the ultimate in bullying behavior. It is equivalent to promoting the Holocaust.
Please repudiate 10:10’s teaching children how to bully by murdering others who disagree with them.
Please join EAGA, Kyocera and Sony in removing your support from 10:10 UK.
Yours sincerely
Dr. David L. Hagen

———————-
Please express your opinion to Telefonica

October 5, 2010 2:21 pm

Edmh, ref. your comment at 9:04 am, have you any links to confirmation about Sony and C???? ?:
FergalR, ref. your comment at 8:52 am, I E-mailed O2 a couple of days ago and this is the response that I received from their PR dept. “Dear Mr Ridley Along with 100,000 members of the public, leading businesses, schools and universities, local authorities and NHS Trusts, O2 supports the aims of the 10:10 campaign. We acknowledge our responsibility to the environment and are committed to reducing our carbon emissions both as an organisation and in society as a whole. 10:10 is an independent organisation and we don’t ask for editorial control over the content of its campaigns. Kind regards Sarah”
Leo R, ref. your comment at 11:28 am, that was a nice job that grumpyoldtwat did of pulling together those bits and pieces from earlier A/Vs and making that one up. Excellent stuff.
Richard Drake, I think there is a big difference between “No Pressure” and this spoof. It is quite clearly a mix of earlier recordings and there is no suggestion of blowing people up because of there rejection of The (significant human-made global climate change) Hypothesis other than the association with “No Pressure”.
Dave ref. your comment at 11:43 am, I but I suggest that it applies also to. I see both Frannie Armstrong and Richard Curtis having concerns about their careers. Frannie has never made it to where she wanted to be – a top film producer. Richard must be getting worried about his dwindling global status. Both of them have achieved what they wanted – very low cost global advertising, under the pretext of being concerned about controlling global climates (natures job).
Huxley, I suspect that you are the same Huxley who posted on this vile film on musician Graham Land’s GreenFudge blog (http://www.greenfudge.org/2010/10/01/new-1010-film-%E2%80%93-watch-gillian-anderson-get-blown-up/#comment-10971). I’ll post here (hopefully Anthony will allow it) the comment of mine that Graham refused to post. I know that you’ll make up your own mind about what he said of it and please let me know your conclusion. I posted another to Joanna Papaj’s GreenFudge blog but she also refused to allow it. They are both blinkered parrots pushing the UN’s propaganda and the message from Gore, Greenpeace and others with their different agenda (having nothing to do with global climate change) that “the debate is over”.
Best regards, Pete Ridley

October 5, 2010 2:41 pm

This is the comment that Graham Land (musician not scientist or anything technical) refused to allow on his blog’s “New 10:10 film – Watch Gillian Anderson get blown up” thread. When this was first rejected I made minor changes to what I thought might have upset the moderator. When it was rejected a second time I posted the above in 4 parts, all of which were rejected and since then none of my comments have been allowed on the blog. I also tried to post a comment to his staunch supporter (another musician not scientist) Joanna Papaj’s GreenFudge blog but she also refused to allow it. They are both blinkered parrots pushing the UN’s propaganda and the message from Gore, Greenpeace and others with their different agenda (having nothing to do with global climate change) that “the debate is over”. Like Gore and Greenpeace, Graham and Joanna refuse to debate, which says it all really.
Best regards, Pete Ridley
**************
Stephen (Wilde), first may I congratulate you on having the courage to make your comments in your own name. Many supporters of The (significant human-made global climate change) Hypothesis prefer to hide behind false names and express there opinions as though they were knowledgeable scientists when in fact they are simply parroting what others say.
I also congratulate you and the rest of the team at ClimateRealists for your excellent efforts to get the message across to the general public that “The truth is that the science of natural climate variability is nowhere near settled”.
Joanne Papaj (Note 1) may be a fantastic opera singer but she, like Graham Lande (Note 2) is simply a gullible parrot as far as the processes and drivers of global climates is concerned. Joanne’a “This way of putting statement (like is was the only truth) means either lack of knowledge or that the author is a fan of Machiavelli. Whichever it is, it is caused by laziness, selfishness and attitudinal myopia” demonstrates her complete ignorance of the subject.
She is doing her best to support Graham with his efforts to keep the UN’s propaganda going (Note 3) through his Greenfudge nonsense but they are both (along with the UN, Al Gore, Georger Soros, Tim Firth, Maurice Strong, etc. etc. etc.) doomed to disappointment. The 2010 COP16 caper in Cancun will be an even bigger fiasco than the 2009 COP15 catastrophe in Copenhagen.
The first significant crash for this bandwagon was the Climategate revelations, then came those numerous IPCC-gates. After that was the collapse of the Chicago Climate Exchange (Note 4). The entire catastrophic human-made global climate change scam is falling in ruins.
NOTES: POSTED LATER AS MAY BE CONSIDERED AS SPAM
1) see http://www.myspace.com/joannapapaj
2) see http://grahamland.blogspot.com/
3) see http://www.facebook.com/pages/Greenfudgeorg/262812262948
4) see http://21stcenturywire.com/2010/08/27/the-great-collapse-of-the-chicago-climate-exchange/
Best regards, Pete Ridley

Editor
October 5, 2010 2:47 pm

Josh says:
October 5, 2010 at 1:37 pm
> And yes, more to come, this was a toe in the water, it being a rather sensitive topic.
The key thing 10:10 did wrong was to make a movie of what their fantasy is. I think you have to come up with comics where the reader can conclude that but without the comic saying that explicitly.
Franny’s list – “get up, get dressed, make movie” works because it implies as little work goes into making a movie as does getting dressed. “Get up, get dressed, splatter the miscreants” doesn’t work because it’s to explicit and doesn’t have the element of surprise when people figure out the meaning behind the list.
BTW, I don’t get the Elton bit – did Richard want to make a documentary of Elton John, but had to settle for the 10:10 job?

October 5, 2010 2:48 pm

I’ve tried twice to post my additional comment but it failed to appear. Any ideas?
REPLY: Try refreshing and using your scroll bar, they are all there – Anthony

October 5, 2010 2:49 pm

OK, now I’ll try in parts.
This is the comment that Graham Land (musician not scientist or anything technical) refused to allow on his blog’s “New 10:10 film – Watch Gillian Anderson get blown up” thread. When this was first rejected I made minor changes to what I thought might have upset the moderator. When it was rejected a second time I posted the above in 4 parts, all of which were rejected and since then none of my comments have been allowed on the blog. I also tried to post a comment to his staunch supporter (another musician not scientist) Joanna Papaj’s GreenFudge blog but she also refused to allow it. They are both blinkered parrots pushing the UN’s propaganda and the message from Gore, Greenpeace and others with their different agenda (having nothing to do with global climate change) that “the debate is over”. Like Gore and Greenpeace, Graham and Joanna refuse to debate, which says it all really.
Best regards, Pete Ridley

October 5, 2010 2:50 pm

Stephen (Wilde), first may I congratulate you on having the courage to make your comments in your own name. Many supporters of The (significant human-made global climate change) Hypothesis prefer to hide behind false names and express there opinions as though they were knowledgeable scientists when in fact they are simply parroting what others say.
I also congratulate you and the rest of the team at ClimateRealists for your excellent efforts to get the message across to the general public that “The truth is that the science of natural climate variability is nowhere near settled”.
Joanne Papaj (Note 1) may be a fantastic opera singer but she, like Graham Lande (Note 2) is simply a gullible parrot as far as the processes and drivers of global climates is concerned. Joanne’a “This way of putting statement (like is was the only truth) means either lack of knowledge or that the author is a fan of Machiavelli. Whichever it is, it is caused by laziness, selfishness and attitudinal myopia” demonstrates her complete ignorance of the subject.
She is doing her best to support Graham with his efforts to keep the UN’s propaganda going (Note 3) through his Greenfudge nonsense but they are both (along with the UN, Al Gore, Georger Soros, Tim Firth, Maurice Strong, etc. etc. etc.) doomed to disappointment. The 2010 COP16 caper in Cancun will be an even bigger fiasco than the 2009 COP15 catastrophe in Copenhagen.
The first significant crash for this bandwagon was the Climategate revelations, then came those numerous IPCC-gates. After that was the collapse of the Chicago Climate Exchange (Note 4). The entire catastrophic human-made global climate change scam is falling in ruins.

October 5, 2010 2:51 pm

PART 1
Stephen (Wilde), first may I congratulate you on having the courage to make your comments in your own name. Many supporters of The (significant human-made global climate change) Hypothesis prefer to hide behind false names and express there opinions as though they were knowledgeable scientists when in fact they are simply parroting what others say.
I also congratulate you and the rest of the team at ClimateRealists for your excellent efforts to get the message across to the general public that “The truth is that the science of natural climate variability is nowhere near settled”.

October 5, 2010 2:52 pm

Joanne Papaj (Note 1) may be a fantastic opera singer but she, like Graham Lande (Note 2) is simply a gullible parrot as far as the processes and drivers of global climates is concerned. Joanne’a “This way of putting statement (like is was the only truth) means either lack of knowledge or that the author is a fan of Machiavelli. Whichever it is, it is caused by laziness, selfishness and attitudinal myopia” demonstrates her complete ignorance of the subject.
She is doing her best to support Graham with his efforts to keep the UN’s propaganda going (Note 3) through his Greenfudge nonsense but they are both (along with the UN, Al Gore, Georger Soros, Tim Firth, Maurice Strong, etc. etc. etc.) doomed to disappointment. The 2010 COP16 caper in Cancun will be an even bigger fiasco than the 2009 COP15 catastrophe in Copenhagen.
The first significant crash for this bandwagon was the Climategate revelations, then came those numerous IPCC-gates. After that was the collapse of the Chicago Climate Exchange (Note 4). The entire catastrophic human-made global climate change scam is falling in ruins.

October 5, 2010 2:53 pm

Joanne Papaj (Note 1) may be a fantastic opera singer but she, like Graham Lande (Note 2) is simply a gullible parrot as far as the processes and drivers of global climates is concerned. Joanne’a “This way of putting statement (like is was the only truth) means either lack of knowledge or that the author is a fan of Machiavelli. Whichever it is, it is caused by laziness, selfishness and attitudinal myopia” demonstrates her complete ignorance of the subject.
She is doing her best to support Graham with his efforts to keep the UN’s propaganda going (Note 3) through his Greenfudge nonsense but they are both (along with the UN, Al Gore, Georger Soros, Tim Firth, Maurice Strong, etc. etc. etc.) doomed to disappointment. The 2010 COP16 caper in Cancun will be an even bigger fiasco than the 2009 COP15 catastrophe in Copenhagen.

Curiousgeorge
October 5, 2010 2:53 pm

@ David says:
October 5, 2010 at 1:51 pm
10:10 is an independent organisation and we don’t ask for editorial control over the
content of its campaigns. 10:10′s latest statement on this issue can be viewed on
its website at http://www.1010global.org/uk
Kind regards
Sarah

In other words: “Bugger off, mate” .

Richard
October 5, 2010 2:54 pm

I think all of these “gates” are becoming overwhelming. Perhaps a better idea is to resurrect a somewhat earlier name for Watergate, to wit, Traitors Gate followed by a number. The perpetrators all arguably appear to be “traitors” to their own species, even to the extent of advocating its extinction, contrary to the usual survival at all costs imperative of nature.

October 5, 2010 2:54 pm

Part 3
The first significant crash for this bandwagon was the Climategate revelations, then came those numerous IPCC-gates. After that was the collapse of the Chicago Climate Exchange (Note 4). The entire catastrophic human-made global climate change scam is falling in ruins.
NOTES:
NB: I have removed http : // www. from 1) & 3) and http:// from the others.
1) see myspace.com/joannapapaj
2) see grahamland.blogspot.com/
3) see facebook.com/pages/Greenfudgeorg/262812262948
4) see 21stcenturywire.com/2010/08/27/the-great-collapse-of-the-chicago-climate-exchange/
Best regards, Pete Ridley

October 5, 2010 2:59 pm

NOTES:
NB: I have removed http : // www. from 1) & 3) and http:// from the others.
1) see myspace.com/joannapapaj
2) see grahamland.blogspot.com/
3) see facebook.com/pages/Greenfudgeorg/262812262948
4) see 21stcenturywire.com/2010/08/27/the-great-collapse-of-the-chicago-climate-exchange/
Best regards, Pete Ridley

October 5, 2010 3:00 pm

I don’t know why Part 3 wouldn’t post so will try it again.
PART 3
The Climategate revelations were the first significant crash for this bandwagon, after which came the IPCC-gates (30 or more wasn’t it?. After that was the collapse of the Chicago Climate Exchange (Note 4). The catastrophic human-made global climate change scam is falling in ruins.

October 5, 2010 3:04 pm

PART 3
I get the message “Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you’ve already said that!” but Part 3 doesn’t appear with the message “Your comment is awaiting moderation. ”
Sorry about the mix-up but you shpuld get the gist.
Best regards, Pete Ridley

DR
October 5, 2010 3:11 pm

Ric Werme says:
October 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm
“I don’t get the Elton bit”
Richard Curtis and Ben Elton wrote the Blackadder series. Might have worked out a whole lot better for 10:10 if they’d asked Ben Elton to help…

October 5, 2010 3:12 pm

Gore? Haven’t we seen enough gore in that film?
/Carl

Z
October 5, 2010 3:41 pm

It isn’t – IMHO – the inner workings of madness, but mere groupthink. That’s why you need people who don’t always agree with you around – it keeps you honest.
I think it was Patton who said “If everyone thinks the same, then no one is thinking.” and I think that’s what went wrong here.
Mind you, if “No Pressure” goes viral in a smiliar manner to “The Downfall”, then that is going to be the hurt that keeps on giving…

huxley
October 5, 2010 3:56 pm

Pete Ridley: Yes, I am that huxley. I’ve managed to get all but two of my comments posted at Greenfudge http://www.greenfudge.org/2010/10/01/new-1010-film-–-watch-gillian-anderson-get-blown-up/ .
Your comment called Graham and Joanna out personally and I suspect that was the problem.
In browsing around the web and following the news, I’m struck how the climate change movement is flailing about. They can’t win decisively in open debate and all too often they lose. It looks bad if they censor and control the debates and it looks bad if they retreat from debates.
So their preferred strategy is to proceed as if they had already won the debate — as outlined in that “Warm Words” climate change PR document (http://www.ippr.org.uk/publicationsandreports/publication.asp?id=561 ) a few years ago. But climate skepticism has reached critical mass and that’s not working either.
Climate change advocates are stuck with no good way to proceed. Unfortunately, a huge wave of general skepticism towards our elite betters has arrived, so more appeals to authority will be in vain, and may even work against them.

Kevin
October 5, 2010 7:24 pm

I haven’t talked to anyone on either side of the debate that thinks this video was a good idea. My pals who oppose AGW do however find the entire episode very funny and are having the time of their lives — I think it fair to say they are promoting the heck out of it. My pals who support AGW would just like it to disappear. So for those who believe people are no longer capable of shame — proof positive it still exist.

October 5, 2010 7:28 pm

I found this interesting bit of trivia. It may be true!
http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/10/analyze_this_sigmund_your_grea.html
“… Emma Freud is the creative and marital partner of Richard Curtis, who wrote the blood-crazed terror video everyone’s talking about…”
” Emma is the great-granddaughter of Dr. Sigmund Freud, who knew a thing or two about bloody primal urges. Freud described people as driven by thanatos, a death drive that yearns for destruction and violence, which is repressed by civilization. But even good old Siggy might have marveled at his descendant’s unbound zest for human sacrifice — all done in the name of social responsibility, of course.”
Dang! You could write the truth about these people and market it as a horror novel.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)

pesadia
October 5, 2010 7:43 pm

Why are you doing this?
Because you are not listening.
What makes you think that i am not listening.
Because you don’t agree with me.
Well, i don’t agree with what i heard you say.
Thats because you were not listening.
I must have listened in order to disagree.
Okay, but you didn’t listen properly.
How should i listen properly.
By listening and then agreeing.
But what if i don’t agree with you.
There you go again, you are not listening properly
But.. Boom…. too late

Golf Charley
October 6, 2010 2:53 am

Josh and any parody producers
One of the best half hours ever (IMHO) of British TV was the final episode of Blackadder, set in the madness of the WW1 trenches, (the War to end all Wars) and yes this was written by Richard Curtis.
The episode finished with the pointless death of our heroes, and the screen blurred/merged into the pinky red of the poppy fields as opposed to bloody gore dripping down our screens.
Someone please….?

PJB
October 6, 2010 4:53 am

Since there wasn’t any apparent conspiracy or underhandedness (just crassness and stupidity by the boatload) might I suggest a name change to:
Gorefest 1010
The first part suggestive of the celebration of mayhem and the second part representing the medieval mindset not only of the event but of its supporters?

Steve R
October 6, 2010 5:37 am

fyi I received an answer from the Carbon Trust in UK – interesting that they distance themselves firmly from 10:10 as below.
The Carbon Trust does not endorse 10:10’s mini-movie “No Pressure”. We were completely unaware of the film until it appeared online. We were not involved in any way with the making of this film and we provide no financial support to 10:10. We do provide practical advice and guidance on saving energy and cutting carbon to organisations that have signed up to the initiative.
Kind Regards
Customer Centre Advice Line
http://www.carbontrust.co.uk
Customer Centre, PO Box 89 , Witney , OX29 4WB

Richard Sharpe
October 6, 2010 7:39 am

EU Referendum has something on his correspondence with O2 and cancelling his business with them:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/10/splattergate-o2-customer-relations.html

Golf Charley
October 6, 2010 7:50 am

Steve R
I don’t think that throwing 10:10 under the bus will save the Carbon Trust quango from the axe, but it is nice to see the mutual back slappers turning into mutual back stabbers

CRS, Dr.P.H.
October 6, 2010 8:18 am

I wrote in to the 10:10 website and obtained this “form letter” response:
=====
Hello Charles,
Thanks for your mail. You’re right. We made a mistake with the movie. It was off-the-mark and off-message.
Our UK director has made a statement on the issue, which if you haven’t seen and wish to see, you can find at http://www.1010global.org/uk/2010/10/statement-1010-uk-director. As it says, we are taking the matter very seriously and will be reviewing our processes and procedures to identify how we made the mistake.
We will definitely be returning to our traditional positive messaging from here on in. We hope you will stick with us.
With sincere apologies.
=====
Dear 10:10,
No need to apologize, just go away….

Steve R
October 6, 2010 8:26 am

Golf Charley
I quite agree! The exercise of disolving useless quangos could do worse that start with the Carbon Trust.
Wonder if it’s possible to short sell carbon credits….. 😉

1DandyTroll
October 6, 2010 1:34 pm

I have now devised the most evil doctory doomy plans to change career from ice melter to a career in blowing kids up.
I’ve come to figure it’s gonna be quite the work load trying to melt all the damn ice — with a refurbished flame thrower no less. Listen to this like, I visited, all happy go like, the local petrol station to refuel my recently recuperated refurbished flame thrower, and what do I get but up in my face screaming and shouting and every god damn invective possible (and not to mention a few a the really bad words of private parts), I immediately thought climate “blow your face up” alarmist at twelve a clock, so I did what every rational person would’ve done, squeezed up and run.
Funny though that with all that screaming and shouting, especially all that shrieking at the end, the last word I heard was like “woof”. How odd I though, I never new they had a dog.
The other day though I woke up with a really nasty smell covering the neighborhood, like burnt napalm. Actually I think it was the day after the whole petrol station oddity. Anyways, I’m there, in bed, figuring that crap I’m not the only careerist ice melter with a refurbished flame thrower out there. Conclusion: Competition. I friggin hate competition, always has, always will! Competition is truly bad for your earning potential.
Of course I could have gotten rid of my competition with a simple squeeze followed by that swooosh of burning napalm (or in my case the environmentally friendly so called E85 that just goes woof), but, apparently, that’d be considered rude.
So I was pretty much forced into a new career path. And lucky me I got my own mind to think with, so I’m like thinking if it’s all ok to blow up kids, why not make a career out of it?
So here’s my business plan, second revision.
I’m gonna blow up kids for a living. I’m figuring I can blow up five kids per day without too much of a hassle. I am fully aware of, and fully understand, kids’, should we say, difficulties in our handling of ’em? Anyways, with enough lubricants they don’t pose any what so ever kind of a problem, believe you me. [insert evil wink smiley]
How to blow up the kids though? Hard question. Not so easy as one thinks. Using refurbished explosives is, sadly, out of the question, what with the, let’s just say for lack of potency of going off a second time.
After much consideration, and after trying it on a toddler without much success I tell you due to some horrendous size issues, I’ve come to the conclusion that for each day I’ll need five canisters of gas, any gas lighter than air will suffice but for fun and profit helium seem to be the best choice.
I’ll also budget for five yay [->. . . . .<-] high balloons. Preferably yellow ones for visibility.
That's it, you lubricate the kids, squeeze 'em into the god damn balloons, and then blow 'em all up (preferably with helium gas–for fun and profit.)
This way I can blow kids up, career wise, sky high, at the same time reducing the carbon foot print by two for each snotty kid that I blow up, sky high. The kids get a laugh reaching the stars–for free, without the fee of cars!