UPDATED: link below
Chris Horner, author of the recently released book, Power Grab: How Obama’s Green Policies Will Steal Your Freedom And Bankrupt America, revealed that a major ethics scandal involving someone in the Obama administration will be unveiled on Monday. Here is the complete quote that comes at the 29:01 mark of the interview on a Saturday Radio program (link follows)
“You’re going to see the first ethics scandal in the Obama administration. We’ve got our hands on some internal
documents revealing a serious conflict of interest at a very high level on these green jobs and stimulus and the
policies that Carol Browner was talking about. It isn’t Ms. Browner, but it is someone tied to Al Gore.”
The source of this information is Mark Gillar’s radio program, here
Chris Horner advises that a story will appear Monday morning, and that he has documentation of the issue. When available, a summary and link will appear at WUWT.
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Here it is:
Christopher Horner, April 26, 2010:
More Global Warming Profiteering by Obama Energy Official
Sorry, is it a secret that it’s Eric Stein, the Consumer Protection Czar?
http://biggovernment.com/publius/2010/04/23/eric-stein-must-resign/
Change!
A delicious frisson of anticipation being enjoyed here…
Hi Guys, might like to know while we toil under massive taxes, Al Gore has got his snout right into a 3rd world country’s money.
He will receive a whopping $500000 U.S dollars for appearing at Manila S.M Covention centre giving an “Updated Asian Version of Inconvienant Truth” on the 30th of April
Of course Philippines is desperatley poor, most of the attendies will be bureaucrats, living high of the hog like Gore, and charging the bill to the government taxpayers.
Meanwhile average Philippinos would never earn that money in 500 years of work.
Just remember guys, a Carbon Trading Scheme wll push people furthur into poverty, while Gore and his mates make billions of electronic money.
Sickening!!
From Cebu, Philippines
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. — Mark Twain
So this has nothing to do with beer, a topic of which I know something about. Pity!
WHAT BEER MAKERS HAVE MORALS?
Can’t wait! It’s Monday afternoon here in Thailand. Guess I’ve got a few more hours to wait…
Why am I not surprised by this?
Climate Gorecasters!
While we wait – here’s Al Gore for ya’
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8340238.stm
An ethics scandal in the Obey-Me Administration?
I’m shocked, *shocked*, I say…
For some reason that link doesn’t work for me. If anyone else is having issues accessing the radio program I found an alternate link at this url:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2010/04/24/chris-horner-discuss-power-grab
This better not be a beer scandal.
I wonder how much this story/scandal has to do with Sen Lindsey Graham beating a hastey retreat from the upcoming Cap-and-Tax bill he was working on ?
I hear a whistling…
Could it be a shoe?
Can I be on the Panel of Inquiry?
Surprising documents made available to this author reveal that Assistant Secretary of Energy Cathy Zoi has a huge financial stake in companies likely to profit from the Obama administration’s “green” policies.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/more-global-warming-profiteering-by-obama-energy-official/
Maybe it’s just a repackaging of this:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/Obama_s-credibility-crisis-91958294.html
I shall wait for the scandal to break. I am curious though about this recent Obama quote:
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“It will be up to each of you to make sure that the young people, African-Americans, Latinos, and women who powered our victory in 2008 stand together once again,” Obama says in the video that was sent to the 13 million people on his Organizing for America’s email list
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I find this deeply disturbing. Had any other politician appealed publicly for votes from people based on their age, ethnic background and sex, the accusations of racism and prejudice would be echoing from the rafters.
While we wait a Christopher Horner post of March 3, 2010
‘Anti-Lobbyist’ Obama Administration Recruited Left-Wing Lobbyists to Sell Bogus ‘Green Jobs’
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/breaking-anti-lobbyist-obama-administration-recruited-left-wing-lobbyists-to-sell-bogus-green-jobs/?singlepage=true
Christopher Horner, April 26, 2010:
More Global Warming Profiteering by Obama Energy Official
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/more-global-warming-profiteering-by-obama-energy-official/?singlepage=true
I wonder if Carol Browner, Mr Obama’s White House overseer of energy, environmental and climate policy, could be in the frame?
She has alleged connections with Socialist International and was a former legislative director to Al Gore. Time will tell.
Is this Gore-gate?
For those who voted for him the bloom is off, so the timing is good. Hope the scandal goes deep and wide, and strikes at the core of “green” policies, including Cap n’ Trade.
“…Is this Gore-gate?
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It certainly SHOULD be…
Ethical considerations are an irrelevant annoyance in this administration.
As others said, Stoessel had raised this some time ago. I also recall – may be its the same program – a story about a DoE policy person whose husband built energy efficient windows and was a beneficiary of the stimulus package.
Gore has set the tone for this administration: hypocritical, hedonistic hyperbole
Last week this administration was exposed to have corrupt Senate candidate conversation with the Governor of Illinois. They denied the conversation. Today it is another problem that is denied.
Unfortunately any necessary defeat of cap and trade will likely speed the implementation of the VAT tax.
No wonder Big O’s approval rating is sinking. All the dupes who voted for him are abandoning ship.
Come on, this will never be reported anywhere but the internet, and even there sparsely. In the view of the MSM, if there’s not an (R) by the name, it’s not news.
Seriously – there will be no “ethics” scandal – this guy was just doing what they all do, and they will just laugh it off.
Erik, that Hardtalk interview is PURE GOLD!!
There is no way that Sackur could have walked away from that interview believing a word those two said!
What a team!!
How could anyone watch that interview and not see them as snake oil salesmen…. just PURE GOLD! Fantastic entertainment!!
I honestly don’t think I’ve seen Gore and Pachauri look as stupid on TV before (and that’s saying something) 1 million degrees anyone?
GOLD just pure GOLD!!
Erik: So this is THE story? Certainly looks like it…
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/more-global-warming-profiteering-by-obama-energy-official/?singlepage=true
They are Green of envy.
By the way, has Rangel settled his tax bill yet? All I know is that the IRS came after me with nuclear weapons when I did not respond to an audit notice that was lost in the mail (and so I could not reply to it, duh)
Is anyone here really surprised by this? I’ve been saying this forever but this has always been about money and power not science.
It doesn’t matter anymore:(
http://thewestislamandsharia.blogspot.com/2010/04/obama-abandons-climate-bill-in-congress.html
The EPA is taking over. It won’t even get to congress.
Not in my watch i’ll give a dime on this Guy’s Visit.. like they say its a privilege to be a stupid person, lets not abuse it!
How about we wait until the actual story is released and then comment on it?
‘Airspace Closure Was Exacerbated by Too Much Modelling, Too Little Research’.
These guys could get a job at CRU.
After Copenhagen, George Soros (convicted felon and funding operator of climate progress) was drooling over setting up a 100 billion dollar fund for “investing” in carbon credits for developing countries. Now that Zoe is outed as an investor operator for several green companies, how many more are at the government trough?
This is gubment welfare for the green companies that will make up green jobs and claim to “help” save the planet.
It was horrible timing to attack Goldman Sachs last week. They were lined up to be the prommoter of carbon credits and carbon currency.
We should rename the dollar and call it the US CRoney.
What is not to like about smart meters? They can switch down a little jooce and give you a little brown out when the wind turbins are slow and schools need full power to see power point pics on dyimng Poley bears.
The smart meter can tell when you popped on the lights after coming home late after a tea party.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/more-global-warming-profiteering-by-obama-energy-official/?singlepage=true
This “currently” sounds like a very issolated incident. Something that happens day in and day out in Washington, London, Rome, Moscow, Tokyo, etc. I’m somewhat doubtful that it will amount to anything that will slow down anyone from doing the kind of things that make them richer than they ought to be.
PS: Corruption is a condition of life. It comes in too many forms to count. If it can, it will — be corrupted! C’est la vie!
PPS: Liberals get away with murder.
I’ve been saying all along that the “green” in these jobs is that of the money.
“Money is not the root of all evil, Lack of money is the root of all evil — Rev. Ike
Per Stephan’s link above, it looks like pretty petty stuff by Washington standards.
There is one of Maurice Strong’s Buddies:
Ira Einhorn is considered a founder of Earth Day in 1970. He is currently serving a life sentence for killing his girl friend and “composting” her in a trunk in his closet.
“Arlen Specter’s involvement with the Ira Einhorn case is an important event in the party-switching Senator’s career that curious readers would want to know about — if the establishment media cared to note it.”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2009/04/29/specter-switches-ira-einhorn-saga-deserves-wider-mention#ixzz0mDWCFGtO
Speaking of Earth Day, Al Gore celebrated the first Earth Day by promoting Maurice Strong’s Molten Metal company (a scam)
The Campaign Financing Scandal:
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/11/04/us/panel-to-quiz-clinton-s-96-campaign-chief-on-stock-gift.html?sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
The Lawsuit by investors:
http://securities.stanford.edu/1008/AxlervMoltenMeta/001.html
A House Committee investigation
http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20040830154236-07181.pdf
Then we find Al Gore, Maurice Strong and Obama in bed in connection to the Chicago Climate exchange
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/9629
BTW, Gore has been gaming this system since he was VP. Go back and look at a little Massachusetts company called Molten Metals and look at what happened there.
No big surprise that one of the biggest investors in MM was one Maurice Strong.
This is certainly bad news for Obama, but anybody who’s surprised at corruption in the “green” movement has spent the last two years asleep. Still, it’s good that the culture of silence through oppression is eventually breaking.
Expat in France (04:48:42) :
“…Is this Gore-gate?
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It certainly SHOULD be…
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I thought it was the Obama/Gore/Maurice Strong gate: aka the Chicago Climate Exchange. Might as well name all the key players
http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/CEC388B2-A5B8-404D-A91A-74868279DC86/
This is not new though, is it? I remember reading a similar thing a few months back regarding Cathy Zoi being in a position to give business to her husband’s firm. Is there a conflict of interest? Absolutely. Has a crime been committed? I doubt it. The real question though is the reaction of the American people. In Russia, Italy and other corrupt countries this is simply seen as perks of the job. The Mayor of Moscow has put millions in contracts into his wife’s business and nobody bats and eye.
Ref – Pascvaks (06:48:30) :
“PS: Corruption is a condition of life. It comes in too many forms to count. If it can, it will — be corrupted! C’est la vie!
“PPS: Liberals get away with murder.”
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Scratch my PPS please, its untrue because its too restrictive. Everybody tries. Some succeed.
Gail Combs (08:00:49) : “I thought it was the Obama/Gore/Maurice Strong gate: aka the Chicago Climate Exchange. Might as well name all the key players”. Nice one, Gail Combs !!! Hit ’em with the truth !!
Glenn Beck is promising quite a show tonight regarding cap&trade, Goldman Sachs, etc. I think he will claim the next huge bubble is almost completely engineered and is ready for deployment. Should be fun.
Thanks to “Climate Gate” environment things now become transparent. In other countries, past, future and present, where governments have grown too much, the fastest way -and in some places, the only way-to reach a “decent” way of living it is by “making money” through the government. There are only two choices: To be poor or to “work” for the government.
Is this the old Gore/DOW CHEMICAL relationship?
Besides how can a guy with no ethics have a ethical scandal?
Uh, looks like this was all refuted by the company over 3 months ago:
http://blog.seriousmaterials.com/?p=1007
Nice try, though, guys. Better luck next time.
IS the eco-conomy the new way forMP’s/politician’s/senators to get vast sums of money contributing nothing-for-nothing.
They use to get it from tabacco/guns/oil now you don’t even need to produce anything just pretend your saving the planet. oh how the other half live.
I found this titbit in the article revealing:-
“…“Smart meters,” put simply, are electric meters that return information about customer power usage to the power company immediately and allow a power company to control the amount of power a customer can consume. These smart meters are a central component of the Obama administration’s plans to reduce electricity consumption as part of the “smart grid.”
In a rare moment of candor, Obama “Energy Czar” Carol Browner said to US News & World Report last year: “We need to make sure that …[e]ventually, we can get to a system where an electric company will be able [sic] to hold back some of the power so that maybe your air conditioner won’t operate at its peak, you’ll still be able to cool your house, but that’ll be a savings to the consumer.”
Clearly, DoE funding to encourage the adoption of “smart meters” would very likely lead to much increased sales by Landis+Gyr — and a potential windfall for Zoi. But surely Zoi doesn’t participate in the relevant “energy efficiency” policy? ,,,”
Not sure she needs to be directly involved in the decision, when she has an advocate like Carol Browner working at the coal-face.
This is an inverted evolution law: The “survival” of the unfitted.
Quite promptly your sons and daugthers will learn that just by working hard they can not go anywhere, then the last remnants of a moral society order will disappear. Etical behaviour it is not a thing for fools but it is the best way for all, when this is changed everyone loses, even the so called (by themselves, of course, “smartest guys”) and then, after a lot of suffering things will have to be reestablished to normal again. I don’t know how you call it in english, but all what is easy get it is also easy lost…not only that but those who think they always win, history shows, end in very ugly ways.
In the end, the now “smart guys”, will end being, again, what they have always been: The fool ones.
The Obama adm. is essentially a “Commie in the Candy Store”, dedicated to at least looting America at large of all possible present and future productivity via taxation and gigantic deficit spending, and otherwise taking “wealth” from anyone who who has anything at all to get/loot = “too much”, then redirecting enough of it to Obama adm. cronies and supporters to possibly buy enough votes and kicked-back support to continue doing it as long as possible.
Destroying America per se is an added Progressive “value”/Commie Cult fetish: ~”America with its evil White ‘Racist’ ‘Imperialist’ Capitalists deserves it.” It’s the Progressive/Commie version of Gordon Gekko’s, “Greed is good,” with a special “progressive” emphasis on the destruction of anything having real value.
Me, “I hope he fails.”
Just for point of interest, the actual biblical quote is that the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. And these evil people certainly do seem to love money.
David Ball (08:24:36) :
“Gail Combs (08:00:49) : “I thought it was the Obama/Gore/Maurice Strong gate: aka the Chicago Climate Exchange. Might as well name all the key players”. Nice one, Gail Combs !!! Hit ‘em with the truth !!”
Absolutely. It’s the way I’ve always lived my life. The truth is all we have. It shall set us free..
The weatherization czar? Related to a company that does weatherization? Oh my. The SmartMeter product can do remote sensing and metering of electricity. It has features that allow to switch off a/c and refrigeration.
The weatherization boondoggle is massive. Lots of money, very few projects, lots of beaureaucrats and inspectors and money wasted.
Looks like Zoi reports to a cheater. Carl Browner was famous for deleting files and telling companies to not keep records.
Zoilent green gate
The only people picking this story up are the right wing fruitcake sites at this point. Either there is nothing real here and it is just more rightie spin, or someone needs to find a real smoking gun.
It’s an ethics scandal, alright, but it isn’t new.
Pajamas Media has a story up about this, identifying the Obama official involved.
It doesn’t surprise me, everyone is jumping on this green money train. That is why this train needs to be stopped before we bankrupt ourselves further. Here is the link:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/more-global-warming-profiteering-by-obama-energy-official
Gore hope it does not end in what this name means: the shedding of blood resulting in murder, battue, bloodshed, bloodletting, bloodbat. All caused by abhorrence, abomination, anathema, animosity, animus, antagonism, antipathy, aversion, black beast, bother, bugbear, bête noire, detestation, disgust, enmity, execration, frost*, grievance, gripe, hatred, horror, hostility, ill will, irritant, loathing, malevolence, malignity, mislike, nasty look, no love lost, nuisance, objection, odium, pain, rancor, rankling, repugnance, repulsion, resentment, revenge, revulsion, scorn, spite, trouble, venom.
Wow! if not the anti-christ, what else? ☺ Anyone a vaccine against it?
Thanks for that, made my day!
Dave (08:53:56) :
…Besides how can a guy with no ethics have a ethical scandal?
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Now I have to clean all that tea off my computer screen…. I can’t because I am still laughing too hard.
“davidmhoffer (03:50:10) :
“I find this deeply disturbing. Had any other politician appealed publicly for votes from people based on their age, ethnic background and sex, the accusations of racism and prejudice would be echoing from the rafters.”
Well, I imagine if John McCain had asked for whites to come out to elect him that the media would’ve had a field day with it. Obama has played the race card from the get-go and it has been consistently ignored.
I reviewed the updated link to the article, and as someone already said, by Washington standards this isn’t earth shattering. Clear conflict of interest yes, but not earth shattering.
What struck me more was the reference to the smart power meters. Does this administration really believe that they can impose government regulated maximum power use to the average consumer? On the premise that it is saving the consumer money by not letting them run their own air conditioners for their own good? Are you kidding me? Is that for real? Gotta go now, see my stock broker, find out who are the dominant players in home sized power generators, I can see their market picking up soon… until the rationing cards for fuel come out of course….
But you must understand. Didn’t you people see the documentary about the future they showed at the beginning of Copenhagen?
The future of the whole planet is at stake. The children!!!
There’s bound to be a few teeny weeny little bits of corruption in a project this large but we can’t let that stop us from curing this planetary fever.
Now that the prestigious UK scientific establishment has reviewed the science and found it as sound as the pound, we must march onwards.
I just wish there were more taxes to pay or laws to obey so I could feel greener. Maybe I’ll just sign up to the WWF’s ‘adopt a polar bear’ program so I can start making monthly payments now.
“Gore has set the tone for this administration: hypocritical, hedonistic hyperbole”
Is this the same hypocrisy that holds Reagan to be a small-government hero despite his massive military buildup and high levels of taxation, Reagan and Bush as decent men despite selling arms to enemies (and getting off scott-free) and the same hypocrisy who poo-poohed the Vice-President being in charge of a war he was profiting for, yet makes an extramarital affair by a Democrat something we spend Federal dollars investigating and prosecuting?
For the record, though, I’m not a big Obama fan and I think the Rezko thing will blow up in his face, but what’s with us here in the United States excusing Republican Presidents and Vice-Presidents for selling us out to our enemies for a profit, but jumping all over every minor thing everyone else does? (I was going to say ‘Democrats’ but people made Larry Craig’s private sex life a big deal too.)
My opinions are pretty unpopular, though. I tend to think of demanding that historically low tax rates (lower than the golden Reagan years) during a time of crushing debt and two major wars to be borderline treason, and we all know how the U.S. Constitution defines treason, and what the punishment of that offense is.
davidmhoffer (12:13:35) :
“Does this administration really believe that they can impose government regulated maximum power use to the average consumer?”
Yes, I think thats what they want. World wide.
Governed by the UN.
This story is as likely to get play in the MSM as a Yoko Ono song on the radio!
So how long will it be before the stuff starts to finally stick to all the silicon valley solar energy startups; who are getting megabucks in taxpayer guaranteed loans and other perks; that are hardly warranted if free clean green renewable energy is for real.
I recently read a not very informative San Jose Murky News Business section article about SunPower solar energy and their PV panels.
According to the article, Sunpower has the highest commercially available energy efficiency of anyone in the business; and are selling systems with a minimum of 22% efficiency. I have soem “data sheets” on some SunPower panels; and they are not very informative. It used to be that you could get more detailed technical specifications on a 25 cent plastic packaged transistor; than you can get on these solar panels.
BUT !! I hasten to add, that I believe that SunPower is one of the good guys.
TJ Rodgers the CEO of Cyprus Semiconductor, is on the board of Sunpower, and Cypress is a major player and owner of SunPower.
If I am not mistaken, I once had breakfast with TJ Rodgers at some convention; either Electrochem Society; or more likely the Electron Devices Conference; at ehich he presented (if my memory hasn’t failed me) an important paper of Vee-Groove MOS; of which hew was most likely the original inventor. Don’t remeber how it eventually panned out but even at that early stage of his career, he struck me as a very smart chap; and he has done very well for himslef and a lot of others with Cypress, and Now Sunpower.
Some other solar companies I am not as impressed with. One company dposits thin films of silicon (i presume) inside glass tubes; and then lays the glass tubes out in a row. They claim that the tubular structure accepts sunlight from all directions so it detects diffuse solar energy as well as beam energy.
Well Duh !! the projected area is the same however you slice it; and their installations all seem to place the tubular arrays horizontally on the roof; rahtet than steer them to point at the sun. Well of course that si their fclaim to fame; the tubular structure makes orientation unnecessary.
This was one area where the SJMN article printed some really important information.
Solar energy is AREA CONSTRAINED.
So efficiency is the name of the game; not panel cost.
You can maybe get 5% efficiency; from cells that you spray on with a spray gun; for about the cost of painting your house. Well so oyu need four times as much roof are to get Sunpower’s energy collection; so now try and tell me you are competitive.
I don’t know how these businesses are going to pan out; but if it was me; I would put my money on the efficiency leader; whoever that turns out to be.
It is unfortunate, that a significant part of the solar spectrum that silicon is specially sensitive to, also happens to be absorbed by water vapor in the atmosphere, in the 760-900 nm red-near IR region.
Good luck on being able to afford Gallium Nitride or Gallium Indium Nitride solar cells, in the near future to get further up the band gap range where most oif the soalr energy is.
Well NASA can afford it; but the home owner likely can’t. The total integrated R&D dolalrs spent on Silicon Technology pretty muc wipes almost any competing technology off the commercial viability map.
Some tried it with GaAS technology and high concentration solar concentrator systems. Maybe that could make a return some day; who knows.
At some point in the not too distant future, there will be an accounting. The 2nd Amendment has not yet been repealed.
Brad (09:38:51) :
The only people picking this story up are the right wing fruitcake sites at this point. Either there is nothing real here and it is just more rightie spin, or someone needs to find a real smoking gun.
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Reply: Really… the only ones. The Lame Stream Media is just as forthcoming with this news as they were critical of Obama during the campaign, which is to say Not At All. Vigilance is not their strong point since they’re happy with the current situation.
Obama is the quintessential “anti-parallel politician”, meaning he was talking one direction during the campaign and is now going in the completely opposite direction as an elected official. But as others have stated above, it is practically impossible to find unethical behavior in a group with no ethics, for they make their own rules and call everybody “racists” that make such allegations. Are you point man for Obama?
Johnny D (09:06:06) :
Doesn’t look very compelling to me at the moment either, but gee, Johnny D, I guess you would be delighted to accept Enron’s version of that unfortunate misunderstanding, too. Nothing to see, we’ve got it all covered….
Tool.
Obama isn’t the enemy here. He isn’t driving this issue as Gore has done. He is driven by it. This isn’t a defining issue for Obama. It is just something he has had to choose a position on like he has had to choose positions on all sorts of other things.
Every politician today has had to react in some way to the `climate change issue’ and come up with a `climate change policy’. Should we blame Obama for not being prescient enough to see the deception before climategate broke at the time he was formulating his position? Should we regard it as a negative that he has been (unlike Bush) at least willing to listen to scientists?
Imagine for a minute that the IPCC reports were unvarnished truth (hard I know – but try). Then Obama’s response was surely responsible. All the advice he was getting was unanimously telling him that the planet was in danger. Isn’t his response to that a reasonable one? He has been deceived as much as anyone here. I find the way he is being demonized rather distasteful.
Politicians find it hard to change positions once they have adopted them since their enemies will portray any change as weakness. Personally I think willingness to change is more like a strength, but that isn’t how the political culture works.
Obama is surely looking at the climate change issue. He must be considering whether to continue down the path he started out on or whether to choose some new policy. We should all recognise however that changing his position is not a trivial matter. He must be absolutely sure of his new ground if he switches, because the instant he changes he is going to come under sustained attack.
If Obama makes a change now has to know for certain that he will not need to change back in future. The only thing more fatal to a politician than being accused of weakness for switching position is being accused of weakness for `flip-flopping’. Do we have definitive scientific evidence that AGW is NOT happening? Nearly! Nearly – but not quite! At best we can show that the evidence supporting AGW is fatally flawed.
I can see why Obama has not yet altered course. Climategate has cast considerable doubt over the warmist claims, but as of yet there is no settled consensus to replace it. Obama is waiting for that consensus. He has now committed himself to a position which he can’t abandon without strong evidence; evidence that goes beyond mere doubt.
Obama isn’t alone. All politicians around the world are in the same boat. They have all committed themselves to a position on climate change that they cannot easily retreat from without paying a political cost. None of them so far have been willing to pay that political cost. They are all waiting for strong evidence which they can point to to say that AGW isn’t happening. Without that they can’t defend themselves if they are attacked for changing position.
What could Obama point to today to support a change in position. In the face of official stuff like IPCC reports, you expect him to point to some blogs? You expect him to stand up in public and reject the IPCC report and take the political risk of changing position on climate change on the basis of doubts cast by non-scientist bloggers? That would be an incredibly brave thing for him to do. He would immediately come under attack from within his own party, and the republicans who hate him so much will attack him for demonstrating weakness. He just can’t do that. Even Obama – who is a very good politician – couldn’t pull that off and get away with it unscathed.
What politicians like Obama need is evidence that the ‘scientific consensus’ has actually changed. And I think it is changing slowly. Yes scientific consensus is a stupid concept. From a scientist’s point of view only the truth matters and what other scientists think is irrelevant. But consensus is not a stupid concept from a political point of view. He needs something like an IPCC report that changes its mind and say “Oops – climate change may not be caused by CO_2 after all”. If the IPCC won’t do it (which I think is rather likely), he needs a report with equivalent scientific authority backing it to say the same thing.
Otherwise the best he can do is drag his feet on actually implementing his current climate change policy. That is probably the most he can get away with right now and all we should really expect of him.
“Brewing ethics scandal”? Somehow we picture a leder-hosen clad, walrus-mustached Braumeister peering into a foaming fermentation vat and saying, “Vergess that dead rat floating there. Der shipment muss go out on skedule!”
Brewing ethics are flexible, y’know.
susan parsons (06:27:21) :
This is what was expected from Barak Obama. Constitutional procedure means absolutely nothing to him. He thinks he is a Pharaoh or something. “We the People..” is not in his vocabulary. “The People” are what he says “made the mess”. and he seems to think it is up to him to set everything right. He seems to think he knows what is the best way for things to run. But the truth is he’s an empty suit.
The John Stossel show on Serious
Part 1
kwik (13:57:36) :
davidmhoffer (12:13:35) :
“Does this administration really believe that they can impose government regulated maximum power use to the average consumer?”
Yes, I think thats what they want. World wide.
Governed by the UN>>
Ah. Well I wish him good luck with that. The UN has been SO effective at peackeeping, nuclear non-proliferation, arms control, genocide prevention, resolving border disputes, administering programs like oil for food… I have NO doubt that they can pull this off. Wave an angry finger at Iran and warn them to stop enriching uranium… you can understand itz not the sort of thing they’re good at. But wave an angry finger at me and I’ll jump right up and shut my air conditioner off no problem, that’s what you do when the UN wags a finger at you about something REALLY important. You know those cheater boxes for satellite TV? Don’t suppose the geniuses who build them might go into the smart meter cheatin’ business?
The John Stossel show on Serious
Part 2
Pretty pathetic. Stossel treats us Americans like idiots. One window company got a tax credit? No. 8 did. The facts are out there. Stossel chooses not to report on the whole story for his own sensationalist value. And then it gets picked up by people who….don’t do their own searches on Google? From what I see, Serious is getting the attention it deserves. Their windows are going in the Empire State Building….hmmm…funded by the owner. Look into it yourself. I call it media company cronyism and sloppy, shabby, dumb reporting. I think we’re better than this, John.
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Johnny D (09:06:06) :
Yeah, quite right. They don’t receive money direct from DoE, just from the weatherisation program. I’m sure it didn’t help them that Obummer himself highlighted the company in his green jobs spiel.
As I recall, they are a double glazing company. Being in the trade, I can tell you that DG companies are much of a muchness. Guardian, an American glass manufacturer sell well here in the UK, being cheap.
Pilkington have recently released low iron glass which has high IR transmission. They have even more recently released coated low iron glass to reduce the IR transmission.
The theory is that the glass allows IR in but inhibits its release. However, they have recently been forced to admit that the coating inhibits IR in both directions
Now that’s a bit of a bummer.
DaveE.
About Pilks low iron glass.
What they neglect to say is that the sand has to be shipped from Spain to Hull, then transported to St. Helens on the other side of the country. Then, when processed it has to be heated to a significantly higher temperature than normal sand to make the glass.
DaveE.
Dr. Roy Spencer will be interviewed tonight (Mon.) on Coast-to-Coast from 10pm to 2am Pacific time.
RockyRoad-
LOL!
The lame stream media did such a good job of researching Bush obvious lies about Iraq? The lamestream media did such a good job of leaving Clinton alone over Whitewater? The lamestream media is just lame, they are not right or left, those that think they are have a myopic view that does not allow any thought from the other side to enter their brains…
Personally, I think global warming is bunk, but we need healthcare reform, because I think for myself and do not follow in lockstep behind anyone.
Come on guys, this kind of stuff has been going on forever. Remember the company called Halliburton and all the ties the Bush administration had to it? Sadly cronyism is commonplace.
Of course it doesn’t make it right, but to act like it’s the first time something like this has ever happened in Washing is either disingenuous or just dumb.
“”” Andy Y says:
April 27, 2010 at 6:27 am
Come on guys, this kind of stuff has been going on forever. Remember the company called Halliburton and all the ties the Bush administration had to it? Sadly cronyism is commonplace. “””
So Andy; tell us all about Haliburton. What business sector are they in; and can you give us a short list of say their top ten competitors in THAT business sector.
I hear a lot of people complaining about “Haliburton”; not a lot of descrition of just what their business is. So why don’t you inform us Andy.
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Andy Y says:
April 27, 2010 at 6:27 am
Come on guys, this kind of stuff has been going on forever. Remember the company called Halliburton and all the ties the Bush administration had to it? Sadly cronyism is commonplace.
Of course it doesn’t make it right, but to act like it’s the first time something like this has ever happened in Washing is either disingenuous or just dumb.
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Dick Cheney was not in a position to profit from Haliburton getting Iraq contracts. All his stock and options were placed in a charitable trust before he took office. This woman stands to make a profit if she makes certain decisions in her job. Does this seem right to you, Andy? Or is anything Obama and the DemocRATs do OK with you?