Parents, please encourage your children to become “science experts.” The perks are excellent – prestige, travel, publicity, conferences – your fifteen minutes of fame. And all you have to do is make bigger claims than the last expert.
Here are a few favorite gems :
March 10, 2006: It’s official: Solar minimum has arrived. Sunspots have all but vanished. Solar flares are nonexistent. The sun is utterly quiet.
This week researchers announced that a storm is coming–the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). “The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one,” she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm
Dec. 21, 2006: Evidence is mounting: the next solar cycle is going to be a big one.
see captionSolar cycle 24, due to peak in 2010 or 2011 “looks like its going to be one of the most intense cycles since record-keeping began almost 400 years ago,” says solar physicist David Hathaway of the Marshall Space Flight Center. He and colleague Robert Wilson presented this conclusion last week at the American Geophysical Union meeting in San Francisco.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/21dec_cycle24.htm
OSLO, Feb. 29, 2008 (Xinhua) — The polar cap in the Arctic may well disappear this summer due to the global warming, Dr. Olav Orheim, head of the Norwegian International Polar Year Secretariat, said on Friday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/01/content_7696460.htm
27-Aug-2007
Will oceans surge 59 centimetres this century – or 25 metres?
When Al Gore predicted that climate change could lead to a 20-foot rise in sea levels, critics called him alarmist. After all, the International Panel on Climate Change, which receives input from top scientists, estimates surges of only 18 to 59 centimetres in the next century. But a study led by James Hansen, the head of the climate science program at the National Aeronautics and Space Administration’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York and a professor at Columbia University, suggests that current estimates for how high the seas could rise are way off the mark – and that in the next 100 years melting ice could sink cities in the United States to Bangladesh
Glaciers on Snowdon’ warning by climate expert
Jan 12 2010 by Rhodri Clark, Western Mail
THIS winter’s prolonged cold spell could be a taste of things to come for Wales – with glaciers a possibility within 40 years. That’s the chilly message from a leading Welsh climate expert who has warned that global warming could paradoxically trigger a collapse in temperatures in western Europe.
The Cooling World
Newsweek, April 28, 1975
Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
Proof of life on Mars by year-end, says NASA expert
Washington, Jan 16, 2010 (PTI) Is there life on Mars? The most intriguing question for everyone on the Earth would be answered by American space scientists by the end of this year, a NASA expert has claimed.
According to David McKay, chief of astrobiology at NASA’s Johnson Space Centre in Houston, the fact that Mars has bred life will be confirmed this year and the historic discovery will not be made on the Mars, but here on Earth using the chunks of the red planet.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/471015_Proof-of-life-on-Mars-by-year-end–says-NASA-expert
4 January 2007
2007 – forecast to be the warmest year yet
2007 is likely to be the warmest year on record globally, beating the current record set in 1998, say climate-change experts at the Met Office. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2007/pr20070104.html
Hot summer on the way, predicts Met
Sunday 8 April 2007
Britain set to enjoy another sizzling summer after new evidence from the Met Office suggested above average temperatures for the season. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/apr/08/weather.theobserver
Climate could warm to record levels in 2010
10 December 2009
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2009/pr20091210b.html
From The Sunday Times January 10, 2010
“This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6982310.ece
Jan, 2008
Under my plan of a cap and trade system electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket, even, you know, regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal powered plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydqg7ThZB04
November, 2009 GORE: It definitely is, and it’s a relatively new one. People think about geothermal energy – when they think about it at all – in terms of the hot water bubbling up in some places, but two kilometers or so down in most places there are these incredibly hot rocks, ’cause the interior of the earth is extremely hot, several million degrees, and the crust of the earth is hot …
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past Monday, 20 March 2000 According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”. “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said. http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
1998 Was Warmest Year Of Millenium, Climate Researchers Report ScienceDaily (Mar. 4, 1999) — WASHINGTON, D.C. — Researchers at the Universities of Massachusetts and Arizona who study global warming have released a report strongly suggesting that the 1990s were the warmest decade of the millennium, with 1998 the warmest year so far. Researchers have also found that the warming in the 20th century counters a 1,000-year-long cooling trend. The study, by Michael Mann and Raymond Bradley of the University of Massachusetts and Malcolm Hughes of the University of Arizona, appears in the March 15 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, published by the American Geophysical Union. The research was supported by the U.S. Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990304052546.htm
December 14, 2008 “The time for delay is over; the time for denial is over,” Obama said on Tuesday after meeting with former Vice President Al Gore, who won a Nobel Peace Prize for his work on global warming. “We all believe what the scientists have been telling us for years now that this is a matter of urgency and national security and it has to be dealt with in a serious way.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/obamas-global-warming-cha_n_150947.html
March 24, 2006 London ‘under water by 2100’ as Antarctica crumbles into the sea http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article694819.ece
February 20th, 1969
NYT: Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/24/nyt-expert-says-arctic-ocean-will-soon-be-an-open-sea/
Arctic Ice Cap to Become an Open Sea in 10 years Oct 14, 2009 http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/280517
What are some of the reader’s favorites?
h/t to Steve Goddard
“OSLO, Feb. 29, 2008 (Xinhua) — The polar cap in the Arctic may well disappear this summer due to the global warming, Dr. Olav Orheim, head of the Norwegian International Polar Year Secretariat, said on Friday.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/01/content_7696460.htm
”
Say what??
Where’s the 1922 newspaper clipping regarding Arctic ice melt? That’s one of my favorites.
No discussion, no hype http://justdata.wordpress.com Leave the hype to the hyperbolists, and see the raw temperature data in its simplest form.
Found it!
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/03/16/you-ask-i-provide-november-2nd-1922-arctic-ocean-getting-warm-seals-vanish-and-icebergs-melt/
Favorite:
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past Monday, 20 March 2000 According to Dr David Viner.
Too bad buildings still have windows. we can see that was never true.
Here in the UK we spent a fortune on Swine Flu – including setting up a bank of telephone operators working 24 hours to give advice, and also millions of pounds on ‘anti-flu’ pills – all now largely redundant just a few weeks on! It’s just one scare story after another, and all bogus.
I just love the way the internet puts loony predictions on display through the retrospectoscope.
NASA definitely deserves an award for their impressively sensational and amazingly inaccurate press releases on solar activity:
Nov 12, 2003: “The Sun Goes Haywire – Solar maximum is years past, yet the sun has been remarkably active lately. Is the sunspot cycle broken?”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/12nov_haywire.htm
Oct 18, 2004: “Something strange happened on the sun last week: all the sunspots vanished. This is a sign, say scientists, that solar minimum is coming sooner than expected.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/18oct_solarminimum.htm
May 5, 2005: “Solar Myth – With solar minimum near, the sun continues to be surprisingly active.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/05may_solarmyth.htm
Sept 15, 2005: “Solar Minimum Explodes – Solar minimum is looking strangely like Solar Max.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/15sep_solarminexplodes.htm
Aug 15th, 2006: “Backward Sunspot – A strange little sunspot may herald the coming of one of the stormiest solar cycles in decades.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/15aug_backwards.htm
Dec 21, 2006 “Scientists Predict Big Solar Cycle – Evidence is mounting: the next solar cycle is going to be a big one.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/21dec_cycle24.htm
Dec 14, 2007 “Is a New Solar Cycle Beginning? – The solar physics community is abuzz this week. ”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/14dec_excitement.htm
Jan 10, 2008: “Solar Cycle 24 – Hang on to your cell phone, a new solar cycle has just begun.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/10jan_solarcycle24.htm
March 28, 2008: “Old Solar Cycle Returns – Barely three months after forecasters announced the beginning of new Solar Cycle 24, old Solar Cycle 23 has returned.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/28mar_oldcycle.htm
July 11, 2008: “What’s Wrong with the Sun? (Nothing) – Stop the presses! The sun is behaving normally.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/11jul_solarcycleupdate.htm
Sept. 23, 2008: “Solar Wind Loses Power, Hits 50-year Low – This is the weakest it’s been since we began monitoring solar wind almost 50 years ago.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/23sep_solarwind.htm
Sept. 30, 2008: “Spotless Sun: Blankest Year of the Space Age
– Sunspot counts are at a 50-year low – We’re experiencing a deep minimum of the solar cycle.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/30sep_blankyear.htm
Nov. 7, 2008: The Sun Shows Signs of Life – I think solar minimum is behind us”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/07nov_signsoflife.htm
April 1, 2009: Deep Solar Minimum – We’re experiencing a very deep solar minimum – This is the quietest sun we’ve seen in almost a century”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum.htm
May 29, 2009: “If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78,”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29may_noaaprediction.htm
June 17, 2009: “Mystery of the Missing Sunspots, Solved? The sun is in the pits of a century-class solar minimum, and sunspots have been puzzlingly scarce for more than two years.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/17jun_jetstream.htm
September 3, 2009: “Are Sunspots Disappearing? – The sun is in the pits of the deepest solar minimum in nearly a century. Weeks and sometimes whole months go by without even a single tiny sunspot. The quiet has dragged out for more than two years, prompting some observers to wonder, are sunspots disappearing?
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/03sep_sunspots.htm
September 29, 2009 “Cosmic Rays Hit Space Age High – In 2009, cosmic ray intensities have increased 19% beyond anything we’ve seen in the past 50 years,” says Richard Mewaldt of Caltech. “The increase is significant, and it could mean we need to re-think how much radiation shielding astronauts take with them on deep-space missions.”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2009/29sep_cosmicrays.htm
I still can’t believe that I’m paying for this crap. NASA, I want a refund…
I think this is my favorite:
I understand the UK is having a “Syracuse”-like Winter.
Perhaps someone should put together a hierarchy chart of these titles, as it really unclear to me what takes precedence on the “overawing appeal to authority scale” re phd, academic, professor, scientist, scientific expert, etc. . . . .
Let us make sure that we never forget the name and faces of these people, and the mayhem they have created.
I have to go with Gore’s several million degrees, at least some of the predictions could have happened (however unlikely), in Gore’s case he is 100% wrong and 100% amusing. After all, he’s trying to make himself into the climate god.
“Everyone talks about the weather…” and some who do should NOT, nor should they receive a penny for anything they do say or try to sell from anyone.
People seem to never learn and to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. We’re still buying “Dr Hathaway’s Snake Oil Medicine” and “Dr Mann’s Climate Change Elixer” and “Dr Pachauri’s Pure Ol’ Farterstarter Rhumatism Pills”, and etc., etc., all touted to do anything and everything to make you feel perfectly terrible and rob you of your last farthing. But we just never learn…
We sure haven’t come far at all. Used to be, back in the good ol’ days, we could at least run them out of town on a rail after tarring and feathering their worthless cheating hides:-)
Dr Vicky Pope: “The massive increases in computer power since the 1970s are used in the following ways in the Met Office Hadley Centre…Much longer predictions are run, typically…predicting the next 100 to 1,000 years”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6320515.stm
I’m really good at predictions…as long as they have nothing to do with the future.
The 1922 Article talking about the NW passage being open. Anthony has published it several times. What someone needs to do is update the language, change a few of the lines (or eliminate them) and publish is as “current”…
And then past the image of the original on another link page.
None of those guys have any idea as to how to make a really effective presentation – amateurs. They need to apprentice out and start taking lessons from the Hellfire and Brimstone preachers out there, they’ve been practicing a long time and they’ve gotten really good at it.
Not even a psychic would last long with this type of record. In fact, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if a psychic is being employed by all these so-called experts. At least it would make sense. Con artists hiring con artists.
Warming oceans could cause Earth’s axis to tilt in the coming century, a new study suggests. The effect was previously thought to be negligible, but researchers now say the shift will be large enough that it should be taken into account when interpreting how the Earth wobbles.
An eminent climate scientist says previous estimates of earth’s impending wobble is way too conservative, and latest evidence points to a dramatic shift in the coming years: polaris will soon cease to be the comforting celestial signpost known and beloved since the time of ancient mariners.
An even more eminent scientist, and professor of planetary wobbles, warns that only a complete cessation of carbon emissions can avert a clataclysmic outcome: “We have only months to get our act together,” he says.
Although some skepticism has been heard from some quarters, this reporter understands that they are not climate scientists, or if they are, they are not as eminent as those who are warning us of the danger.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/books/seasons-of-change/2007/11/02/1193619117799.html
“…But it’s been 14 years since a circumcision ceremony has been held here. There are now 40,000 uncircumcised young men, some in their late 20s, waiting their turn. All of the eligible young women, tired of waiting, have married older men (multiple wives are allowed), so there are no wives for the new initiates.
I could never have imagined that climate change would have such an effect on an entire society. On reflection though, cultures such as the Samburu are intimately linked to their environment, so as these pressures increase it becomes more difficult to maintain long-held traditions….”
I predict that Global Warming will end all discussion on these topics…
In about 4 billion years…..
Roger
Nice photo! Venice is fantastic, it’s been a long time since i’ve been there…
“Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts.”
– Richard Feynman
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/uot-ior042006.php
“…The erosion caused by rainfall directly affects the movement of continental plates beneath mountain ranges, says a University of Toronto geophysicist — the first time science has raised the possibility that human-induced climate change could affect the deep workings of the planet…”
“For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average.”
I am at a loss for words at such a statement.
Their ridiculous hyperbole has not led people to fear Global Warming and join their side. It has back-fired on a Grand Scale. Why? Because simply the elitists and their minion scientists still believe with all their hearts the average person is very stupid and will buy into what they are peddling as science, truth and Fact. But we (non elitists) know better. The average Joe of the World can see Hyperbole a mile away and immediately take offense to their rhetoric and recognize it for what is and immediately think it very likely is not true, if they need to make outrageous false and misleading grandiose claims. It is a good thing indeed that the side that is pushing this agenda of theirs is so ignorant to that FACT…….I know I am instantly turned off by hyperbole……..Sincerely John….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2261941/British-UFO-sightings-at-bizarre-levels.html
“…”Some experts believe it could be linked to global warming and craft from outer space are appearing because they are concerned about what man is doing to this planet.” …”
I think you get the picture. 🙂
None of these predictions are worth a bucket of warm spit! To predict the events takes a lot more understanding of the physics of the natural cycles than we now posess. An one big volcanic event will cause a major problem combined with the current solar minimum.
Of any, my fav was Hathaway’s prediction of the “most intense cycles since record keeping began” I LOL’ed every time he issued a revised prediction for the cycle.
You posted my favorite – “March 24, 2006 London ‘under water by 2100′ as Antarctica crumbles into the sea”.
I think it’s important to note that in order to have what it takes to be a “science expert” you need to have a degree in journalism.
Here’s my contribution from the Met Office of course:
The forecast for 2014…
Climate scientists at the Met Office Hadley Centre will unveil the first decadal climate prediction model in a paper published on 10 August 2007 in the journal Science. The paper includes the Met Office’s prediction for annual global temperature to 2014.
Over the 10-year period as a whole, climate continues to warm and 2014 is likely to be 0.3 °C warmer than 2004. At least half of the years after 2009 are predicted to exceed the warmest year currently on record.
Just The Facts (09:51:57) :
NASA definitely deserves an award for their impressively sensational and amazingly inaccurate press releases on solar activity […]
I still can’t believe that I’m paying for this crap. NASA, I want a refund…
Me too. But almost any PR has scientists shocked, puzzled, stumped, stumbling, etc, otherwise there would be no reason for the PR, would there?. How about this PR: “NASA announces that no new shocking discovery has been made today”.
Not sure if this fits the theme of this thread but one my favourite Global Warming expert ‘scientific’ predictions is this:-
Global Warming May Up Kidney Stone Risk: Study
Climate Change Could Bump Kidney Stone Rates up by One-Third
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5374174&page=1
(Feel free to delete this if it is deemed to be off topic)
That just means you are the last to find out. 🙂
(conclusion, “Science, Politics and Global Warming” holoscience.com)
Got this out of the “Tips and Notes” page, magnificent exaggeration together with complete ignorance of our ability to increase the number of blood platelets if necessary.
“Ray (13:01:47) :
This is an article that appeared in the Guardian 2 years ago. Looks like they started to seed the next big anthropogenic scare by claiming we are responsible for the drop in oxygen in the atmosphere due to fossil fuel utilization.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/aug/13/carbonemissions.clim
“
I would like to see every so-called ‘expert’ take this simple test, and have their scores published: click
OT:
Not sure if anyone saw this article, it’s off the beaten path of the normal subjects covered here. However, when I read this article, I could not help but think about how closely what this article describes is what happens when one member of a couple undergoes a religious change/awakening.
If you wanted an article that was exhibit A as to the Green movement being a religion, look no further:
http://www.mnn.com/family/education-activities/stories/going-green-tearing-your-family-apart
Don’t forget that you should also have some expertise with PhotoShop to qualify as a science expert, or at least have access to a stock photo library for flood and storm pictures to dress up your peer-reviewable material. ;->
How will the so called ‘science’ regarding AGW handle this?
Jet Stream moving along at record speed (in other words screaming fast)
http://www.iceagenow.com/Jet_Stream_heading_to_CA_at_record_speed_of_250_mph.htm
It’s basically slamming storm after storm into California. O.o\
Nice photoshop of London underwater, not like it’s going to happen anyway.
Here you can find the tprical hyperbole that I talked about above. But luckily when man is faced with things like this the average person has a God endowed bull Sh*t meter and revolts and searches for truth. http://www.climate-catastrophe.org/ “The Earth stands in immenent Peril……..and nothing short a plantery rescuewill save it from the enviromental cataclysm of Dangerous climate change”……… James Hanson. There are many more at this site and almost everywhere Climate Scientists and Alarmist gather…….Very sad indeed “The sky is falling”……..Chicken Little. We all know how that worked out……..Sincerely, John….
That’s New Orleans with British subtitles? Right! Where’s #10?
I thought they’d sold all those old buildings to Disney and moved them to Orlando and Epcot. (Haven’t seen The City during the Spring in years. No change at all.)
The ghost of Big Jim Cooley sez: (09:48:49)
Here in the UK we spent a fortune on Swine Flu – including setting up a bank of telephone operators working 24 hours to give advice, and also millions of pounds on ‘anti-flu’ pills – all now largely redundant just a few weeks on! It’s just one scare story after another, and all bogus.
I’m not sure this is comparable. We had a nice little flu pandemic in 1918. It killed 20 million people. I don’t consider health authorities alarmist for being cautious with the flu.
“Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past Monday, 20 March 2000 According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”. ”Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said.”
My three grandsons stayed with me in Rochdale UK for Christmas and they absolutely loved the snow, which lasted from well before Christmas until well into the new year. It was the first time they had been able to enjoy the snow and possibly the last time for many more years, so perhaps Dr Viner had great insite back in 2000.
Alas, it was then a great disappointment to see my grandsons fly off back to Sydney, Australia with only the memory now of a slowly melting snowman that they left me with.
Colin Porter
A group of Danish scientists wondered whether global warming would make the hairy, meat-eating wolf spiders of northeastern Greenland bigger, since longer summers mean more hunting time.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090505-spiders-bigger-global-warming.html
The one I like best is from Prince Charles:
“Last month, in Brazil, I warned that the scientific evidence showed we had less than one hundred months before we were at our own Rubicon and there was no going back. We now only have ninety-nine months – actually very nearly ninety-eight, before we reach the point of no return, with decisions that will lock us in to our future course. The clock is ticking away inexorably; 99 months will pass in a flash, believe you me. ”
I’ve compiled Prince Charle’s best ones at http://ecotretas.blogspot.com/2009/11/fim-do-mundo.html
Ecotretas
I think Willie Nelson would disagree: “Mamma, don’t let your babies grow up to be climate scientists”
More, more! We have to know what’s in store for us. And some of the predictions must have occured already. It’s terrible!
What does it take to be a science expert?
Start with a stooge in the form of a mainstream media reporter and then feed them a line they want to hear. Don’t worry about exaggeration or hyperbole as they won’t check the facts. Just feed them quotes and claim your statements are indisputable.
This article from Time magazine (1974) would go well with the newsweek article on global cooling.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html
This one is priceless:- “”” From The Sunday Times January 10, 2010
“This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.” “””
Now how’s about that for the entirely newly discovered mathematical process of averaging; a very simple algorithm.
1/ assign memory locations: 0 through F
2/ record first F observations in 0 through E
3/ replace smallest number in 0 through E with next data value that exceeeds it
4/ after last data point is processed, sum the numbers in 0 through E
5/ divide sum by F
6/ store result in F, for “snaferage”
NEWS FLASH: !! The Hubble Space Telescope team has just announced that the upper limit of earth’s outer atmosphere has now been observed at an altitude of approximately 17 Billion (with a (B) light years. Several candidate names for these extremities of earth’s multilayered atmosphere have been proposed. Dimosphere seems to be most popular. Some have suggested that Dumosphere, being closer to the end of the alphabet, might be more informative as scientists close in on that ethereal end to earth’s atmosphere; the absolute zero of any outer atmospheric layer.
This is George E. Smith; popular Non Nobel Physics Prize Nonwinner reporting the Science Daily News for Jan 19 2010; with less than three years remaining till the end of time.
John from MN (10:20:15) :
i am what you might consider an “Average Joe”. No degree, no diploma, just an interest in science. How and why things work fascinates me. And nothing bothers me more than being lied to. The hyperbole you refer to is what I affectionately call BS. I have an incredibly effective BS meter built into me and it works like this. Any time something is saturating the mainstream media my BS meter starts to register. It doesn’t matter what it is, the ozone, bird flu, global warming, swine flu, my meter picks it up. My BS meter has been pegged WFO about global warming for a long time. Anytime someone won’t debate (eg. Gore) is a dead give-away that something is wrong. These guys pushing this crap are on the level of the pitch guys on the infommercials and you know how good most of that stuff is. They must be taking lessons from Billy Mays and Vince.
Tor Hansson,
“I’m not sure this is comparable. We had a nice little flu pandemic in 1918. It killed 20 million people. I don’t consider health authorities alarmist for being cautious with the flu.”
I think the point being made is about the reaction of people, especially governments to perceived threats. In 1918, the population confronted a deadly onslaught with bravery and heroism. They stared at death, faced it down and moved on. Today, people act like abject cowards, fear further fanned by sensationalist media, while governments jump into predictable knee jerk responses. It’s the same sort of nonsense we see with the whole AGW scare – half baked ideas that haven’t a snowflakes chance of working.
Modelling the latest data puts a ceiling on the likely number of vCJD cases.
Don’t you just love Nature? August 200
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v406/n6796/full/406583a0.html
See the models told us that 136 000 people would die in the uk, so accurate?
The front end of the storey is below if you want the rest then you would have to be daft enough to pay?
Modelling the latest data puts a ceiling on the likely number of vCJD cases.
There is continued speculation about the likely number of cases of variant Creutzfeldt–Jakob disease (vCJD) that will occur in Great Britain in the wake of the BSE epidemic in cattle and in light of a recent cluster of vCJD cases in Leicestershire, England. We show here that the current mortality data are consistent with between 63 and 136,000 cases among the population known to have a susceptible genotype (about 40% of the total population), with on average less than two cases of vCJD arising from the consumption of one infected bovine.
Wanted: Experts
The National Science Foundation invites applicants for the year 2011 to assist with current expertise in running state-of-the-art catastrophic computer models and making outrageous predictions to an international audience with aplomb and impunity. Those who look really good wearing absolutely nothing but a big sheepish grin will be given extra consideration.
It seems to me that a lot of the body of evidence for climate change is fringe pieces like the ones that are quoted above. This is the body of evidence that is supposedly solid and unshakable, but it is built like an upside-down pyramid.
I am just curious what the five most important climate papers are, from the perspective of Joel Shore or someone who sees things his way.
That one was a hoax. The person making it claimed to be from the Met Office, but it wasn’t true.
My first reaction when I read it in the above article was that it shouldn’t be there as it wasn’t a claim from a scientist. But I changed my mind. It was a claim by someone claiming to be a scientist and it was taken seriously for a period of time before the hoax was exposed.
This claim was posted as a blog-comment by a commenter who was pulling readers’ legs. It’s not an official statement. It’s absurd on its face. Several WUWT posters have already debunked it. It should be removed from Anthony’s article.
“OSLO, Feb. 29, 2008 (Xinhua) — The polar cap in the Arctic may well disappear this summer due to the global warming, Dr. Olav Orheim, head of the Norwegian International Polar Year Secretariat, said on Friday.”
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/print.sh?fm=01&fd=18&fy=2007&sm=01&sd=18&sy=2010
Compared to recent years seems the sea ice concentration is near 100% where there is ice (assuming the scale accurately reflects the ice concentration).
“World ends tomorrow-women and minorities most affected ”
Fake NYT headline..
” Increased Earth temperature caused by humans has by consensus been found to make it 95% likely that the temperature equilibrium of the solar system will be destabilised with catastrophic effects on the sun.
The destruction by humankind of the sun’s normal pattern of behaviour will in turn cascade via the Milky Way galaxy to the local cluster and within a year will travel faster than light speed to the extremities of the universe and cause a reversal of the ‘big bang’ but on a vastly accelerated time scale.
The end of Earth and everything can therefore be diarised by all those likely to be affected for 12 midnight on September 30th 2010.
This dire but accurate prediction comes to you from the latest and biggest ever supercomputer running the most comprehensive climate model ever built.
Funding kindly provided by Al Gore and someone called ‘Pachauri’ (or similar) from the tax revenues generated by their many business interests.
In the interests of financing the huge amount of research needed to get a solution to this minor inconvenience on such a tight timescale all Earth citizens will shortly receive a demand for a contribution equal to 100% of their total asset value.
You know it makes sense because you’re worth it.”
Ref – Stacey (11:13:04) :
“Modelling the latest data puts a ceiling on the likely number of vCJD cases.”
_______________________
Wheuuuuuuu…. Can’t tell you what that means. Been holding my breath for the past 24 years.
Anthony
THE SOLAR NEBULA IS ON FIRE: A SOLUTION TO THE CARBON DEFICIT IN
THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM !
ABSTRACT
Despite a surface dominated by carbon-based life, the bulk composition of the Earth is dramatically carbon poor when compared to the material available at formation. Bulk carbon deficiency extends into the asteroid belt representing a fossil record of the conditions under which planets are born. The initial steps of planet formation involve the growth of primitive sub-micron silicate and carbon grains in the Solar Nebula. We present a solution wherein primordial carbon grains are preferentially destroyed by oxygen atoms ignited by heating due to stellar accretion at radii < 5 AU. This solution can account for the bulk carbon deficiency in the Earth and meteorites, the compositional gradient within the asteroid belt, and for growing evidence for similar carbon deficiency in rocks surrounding other stars.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1001/1001.0818v1.pdf
Sometimes over-predicting can have its advantages:
GOCE
Atmospheric drag on the spacecraft turned out to be about 3 times less than expected hence the mission may be extended as the thrusters have been designed to deal with higher thrust levels.
What does it take to be a science expert?
Principally your money and mine.
What’s the difference between a “science expert” and low down thief?
I’m asking, what’s the difference?
From Auntie Beeb today, Tuesday:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8468358.stm
An admission (at last) that ‘they’ got it wrong. But it’s NOT going to affect the AGW bandwagon!
Talk about bringing disgrace to what were once the most respected and prestigious institutions on earth. What a shame. Now they are laughing stocks.
Stacey –
Does one really need a computer to guess that there will be between 63 cases and 136,000 cases?
Guys, Please stop referring to:
“For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March… blah blah”
It’s a hoax. It was a comment on some blog by someone pretending to be from the met bureau that has taken on an unfortunate life of its own.
Every time you refer to as being true it you are giving grist to the warmists.
Was it the MetOffice that predicted a warm winter for Europe?
Get ready for cold snap No. 2!
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html
@ScientistForTruth (10:03:53) :
Dr Vicky Pope: “The massive increases in computer power since the 1970s are used in the following ways in the Met Office Hadley Centre…Much longer predictions are run, typically…predicting the next 100 to 1,000 years”.
————
The massive increase in computer power …
caused:
– starting of intensive number-crunching –
– stopping of thinking –
This website is a personal favorite
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
It lists links to hundreds of papers and articles that enumerate the vast panoply of bad things, that have, will or may happen to the world because of AGW. When I start to get depressed about the recent trend in events, clicking through a small random sample there always reminds me that these folks are almost all completely nuts.
@ Pascvaks (11:38:49) :
Ref – Stacey (11:13:04) :
“Modelling the latest data puts a ceiling on the likely number of vCJD cases.”
_______________________
Wheuuuuuuu…. Can’t tell you what that means. Been holding my breath for the past 24 years.
——-
It means you can now have your Big Mac safely.
I think in reality it goes more like this:
Scientist – we’ve discovered a Himalayan sized asteroid on a near earth trajectory.
Politician – is this good or bad?
Journalist – will we have an impact?
Scientist – well it’ll probably pass at about 1million km, not good, pretty close actually – in space terms.
Politician – alert the president, the military, raise taxes – oh wait, will it hit before or after the elections?
Journalist – Scientists predict Continental sized asteroid impact Millions will die, others not so good, but pretty close.
Politician – form a panel – call it the Advanced Research Scientific Endeavour (ARSE)
Journalist – World must listen to (its) ARSE.
Scientist – but, ah, excuse…..
Politician and Journalist – not now – we’re busy.
uhm… should we be revisiting other things the scientists told us over the years? I mean, I just looked out my window at the earth… and its FLAT. I kid you not! Look out your own window if you don’t believe me. Who are you going to believe, your own eyes or a bunch of “scientists”.
Seriously though, I graphed the accumulated national deficit against the IPCC world temperatures and the correlation is excellent. National debt caused global warming. Am I a scientist now?
We have a constant one here in Queensland, Australia.
The Great Barrier Reef
One week – its coral bleaching, then acidity in the seas, then global warming will kill the coral. I will try to find the media releases, but most seem to come from Universities in Central Qld
Everytime its something different
what is the difference between voodoo and science , when mr. pachauri start connecting them when he is being told the truth ?
These people are all screwballs, but it looks like an easy way to make a fast buck, so here’s my prediction. The earth will either become way too hot or maybe way too cold, or we might get hit by an asteroid or some darn thing. But all of that can be avoided if the government just gives me $10 million in research grants. Too high? How about $5 million?
(In case there is any doubt, that’s a joke. My integrity is not for sale.)
Vincent (10:12:49) :
Warming oceans could cause Earth’s axis to tilt in the coming century, a new study suggests.
.
.
.
Ha ha ha. I almost believed you…that there was a real study suggesting this. Not far off from some of the tripe being spewed out by the alarmists though.
Davidmhoffer @ (12:09:51)
Unadulterated science is a wholesome pursuit.
But when science and politics go to bed together, science will always wake up with a very bad headache.
Um, who are you blaming here? Don’t assume the scientists are always to blame. Most recieve little or no media training (and OK more than a few have less common sense than is wise in dealing with the media).
Ever watched a media interview with a colleague and been horrified when the journalist jumps on an irrelevant aside and asks for elaboration, then that ends up as the focus of the final cut because it was something that might light a fire under people?
Of course there are plenty (of scientists) who seem to relish the chance to air their pet theory or latest finding… I wonder how many of them wail afterwards to colleagues “Oh, but they took that out of context..”
Dominic Lawson’s prediction was satire. He’s Nigel Lawson’s son.
@Katie
“We have a constant one here in Queensland, Australia.
The Great Barrier Reef
One week – its coral bleaching, then acidity in the seas, then global warming will kill the coral. I will try to find the media releases, but most seem to come from Universities in Central Qld
Everytime its something different”
Yes, I remember this one. I remember being concerned when I was about 10, in the 1960s. Then it was ‘Crown of Thorns’ starfish that were eating the Reef, and major investment was needed in research and action to stop them. The Nat Geog ran a special on it…. So the Universities are still running on that scare, are they? It would be interesting to document all the scares and all the money spent… And it would be interesting to see how the scientists and the politicians backed out of the situation when it became clear there was no real problem….
Red Green (12:18:44) :
Vincent (10:12:49) :
Warming oceans could cause Earth’s axis to tilt in the coming century, a new study suggests.
.
.
.
Ha ha ha. I almost believed you…that there was a real study suggesting this. Not far off from some of the tripe being spewed out by the alarmists though.
Not so fast there Red!!!
Global Warming Might Create Lopsided Planet
http://www.livescience.com/environment/050629_lopsided_planet.html
Has the world gone completely mad? (rhetorical question)
“Old foolish man, what can you NOT be made to believe.”
Adam Weishaupt
…and Sciencedaily spelt Millennium wrong.
Leif Svalgaard (10:33:03) :
“Me too. But almost any PR has scientists shocked, puzzled, stumped, stumbling, etc, otherwise there would be no reason for the PR, would there?. How about this PR: “NASA announces that no new shocking discovery has been made today”.”
The drive for attention/PR has clearly perverted the system, such that scientist feel like they must have sensational results in order to garner additional funding. We must change the way research funds are granted so that scientists can focus on discovery and PR agents can focus on Brittany and Miley again. I posted this vid a while ago, but it seems apropos to the root cause of all of the senationalism, i.e. when news became entertainment…
From The Sunday Times January 10, 2010
“This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6982310.ece
I’m told this one is a hoax and it was originated by somebody who does not work for the Met Office. Either that or somebody there has become a “denier” of a different sort in order to save face.
Ref – ShrNfr (12:02:09) :
@ Pascvaks (11:38:49) :
Ref – Stacey (11:13:04) :
“Modelling the latest data puts a ceiling on the likely number of vCJD cases.”
_______________________
Wheuuuuuuu…. Can’t tell you what that means. Been holding my breath for the past 24 years.
——-
It means you can now have your Big Mac safely.
________________________
No, don’t think it was Big Mac.
Ain’t life a bite (sometimes), and I thought that was such a great tour too. East Anglia, Lakenheath, Mildenhall, Cambridge, London, York, Edinbura’h, et al. Eggs, beans, tomatoes, sausage, and fried toast for breakfast – none of that continental stuff; and beer, great beer. Then vCJD. Well something’s going to kill you. Right?
What does it take to be a Science expert?
Just one thing – the understanding that if you cant stun them with science baffle them with bullsh*t
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/southern_california.php
Southern California may be in danger of succumbing to a “perfect drought” if actions aren’t taken soon to help remedy the situation, according to a recent article in Guardian Unlimited. Leading climatologists, environmentalists and city planners have warned that the use of water may need to be severely curtailed in light of the drought-like conditions prompted by the lowest amount of rainfall (only 8.15 cm in the year ending June 30) since 1877.
Hope you’re homes don’t dry slide into the ocean, with recent weather events.
I have to say that “Arctic Ice Cap to Become an Open Sea in 10 years” is my favorite. In forty or so years we forget that glaciers become wet mountains next to lakes when they melt and think that Ice Cap means sea ice. Outlandish prediction AND factual error!
How did climate ‘expert’ Joe Romm’s climate caused bridge collapse miss the honor roll after this many additions?
Did Climate Change Contribute To The Minneapolis Bridge Collapse?
August 6, 2007
http://climateprogress.org/2007/08/06/did-climate-change-contribute-to-the-minneapolis-bridge-collapse/#more-1120
“The question remains, do we need to climate-proof our bridges, does a connection exist between climate change and the collapse of the I-35W bridge?”
…
“Certainly climate change will have the biggest infrastructure impact on our coastal cities, water and sewage systems, levees, and electric grid. But given that a remarkable 70,000 other bridges in the country are also structurally deficient, we should seek to learn whether such troubled bridges can take the ever-growing stresses generated by global warming. “
O/T : Something’s going on. In search of more ridiculous hype i used news.google.com and entered “global warming” together with various buzzwords. What i noticed was a tenfold explosion in the number of news items with sceptical viewpoints or mentioning of a sceptic position compared to the same search a number of days ago.
WUWT went viral. Congrats.
Great post!
I was just thinking along these lines for the past couple of days.
Has anyone kept up with all the tipping points? LOL
An oldie but goodie:
There was much debate amongst scientists about the thickness of dust on the moon. Some speculated that there would be very thick dust into which astronauts and their spacecraft might ‘disappear’.
These aren’t scientist’s predictions but,……….
Fat people causing climate change, says Sir Jonathan Porritt
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/5436335/Fat-people-causing-climate-change-says-Sir-Jonathan-Porritt.html
I thought that one was a hoot.
Some experts call the genocide in Darfur the world’s first conflict caused by climate change.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=can-climate-change-cause-conflict
This one just saddened me.
Posted 9/15/2005 2:01 PM
Experts say global warming is causing stronger hurricanes
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/2005-09-15-globalwarming-hurricanes_x.htm
Climate Change May Be Causing Winds To Slow
Posted on: Wednesday, 10 June 2009, 12:45 EDT
http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/1703467/climate_change_may_be_causing_winds_to_slow/
Well, maybe the winds got stronger and then later slower because of AGW. Kinda like when the earth gets colder because of global warming. Sigh
Science expert? When applied to climate science it’s an oxymoron. There are no climate science experts. The quest to become an expert in any field is ongoing but eventually reached only after we have a good understanding of the field. Climate science is in the very immature phase.
“Climate Change Caused Widespread Tree Death In California Mountain Range, Study Confirms…”
AND it has caused some people to forever quit wearing argyle socks. What all this produces is a strong body of evidence that we are not living in a codified world. But something closer to make-believe.
Hollybush berries predict severe UK winters two years in a row!
Following record berry crops, rare European bird visitors have systematically stripped red berries from English gardens as icy polar weather heads south-east over the UK. Flocks of starving? fieldfares and redwings from Scandinavia and Russia have invaded British gardens as far south as Bournemouth and Brighton, while native birds shiver in the prolonged icy weather.
“”” Yarmy (12:42:50) :
Dominic Lawson’s prediction was satire. He’s Nigel Lawson’s son. “””
Well don’t stop there when it is just starting to get interesting. Whom else’s son is he; and who the blazes is Nigel Lawson; sounds awfully RAF like to me Old Chap !
‘Garvin pointed out that bats aren’t typically looked for until around April 1. Finding a bat infected with rabies in early March could be an indication of global warming.’
In Texas, of course!
Ref:
http://www.banderabulletin.com/articles/2009/04/08/news/564.txt
Great fun. How about a headline contest. Pick 10 random headlines from Scrappleface, The Onion, and a few newspapers and see if people can tell the source without looking it up. Or see if they can tell the difference.
Like this one:
Beer Production Threatened By Climate Change
or this
UN: Millions Not Suffering AIDS Now Doomed to Drown
Just a thought
Terry
“There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.” — Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC), maker of big business mainframe computers, arguing against the PC in 1977.
“A rocket will never be able to leave the Earth’s atmosphere.” — New York Times, 1936.
“Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible.” — Lord Kelvin, British mathematician and physicist, president of the British Royal Society, 1895.
“Nuclear-powered vacuum cleaners will probably be a reality in 10 years.” -– Alex Lewyt, president of vacuum cleaner company Lewyt Corp., in the New York Times in 1955.
“The energy produced by the breaking down of the atom is a very poor kind of thing. Anyone who expects a source of power from the transformation of these atoms is talking moonshine.” — Ernest Rutherford, shortly after splitting the atom for the first time.
“The Americans have need of the telephone, but we do not. We have plenty of messenger boys.” — Sir William Preece, Chief Engineer, British Post Office, 1878.
“Rail travel at high speed is not possible because passengers, unable to breathe, would die of asphyxia.” — Dr Dionysys Larder (1793-1859), professor of Natural Philosophy and Astronomy, University College London.
All from http://listverse.com/2007/10/28/top-30-failed-technology-predictions/
So nothing new let’s move on.
@katie and Geezer: wiki lists some threats to the great barrier reef:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_threats_to_the_Great_Barrier_Reef
My favourite site for climate scare stories.
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
I like the picture, just tell me the MPs were there when it happens?
My favourite is this one about melting mammoth dung accelerating global warming:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1076886120070917
Did anyone look at the comments on the daily article? People actually buy into it. It’s scary how so many people simply will not think for themselves.
From tallbloke’s link:
“Psychosocial illnesses are a part of the various health issues associated with climate change,” Poonam Khetrapal Singh, Deputy Regional Director, WHO, said.
True. It was so cold here last week I tried to kick the dog. (he escaped)
you forgot:
640 Kbytes ought to be enough for anyone – Bill Gates
and
the world market for computers is about 10 – forgot his name but he was president of IBM at the time
As a serious aside, this is very reminiscent of the shuttle disaster. The engineers who designed the boosters were of the opinion that a low temperature launch would end in disaster. But NASA wanted to launch that day so badly that they decided that since the engineers couldn’t prove that there was a problem, it was OK for them to “decide” that there wasn’t. In brief, the people at the top heard what they wanted to hear and dismissed anything they didn’t. Its in a lot of engineering curriculums now, here is an excerpt I swiped off the Texas A&M site. Very tragic and somehow reminiscent of recent events:
The Night Before the Launch
Temperatures for the next launch date were predicted to be in the low 20°s. This prompted Alan McDonald to ask his engineers at Thiokol to prepare a presentation on the effects of cold temperature on booster performance. A teleconference was scheduled the evening before the re-scheduled launch in order to discuss the low temperature performance of the boosters. This teleconference was held between engineers and management from Kennedy Space Center, Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama, and Morton-Thiokol in Utah. Boisjoly and another engineer, Arnie Thompson, knew this would be another opportunity to express their concerns about the boosters, but they had only a short time to prepare their data for the presentation. Thiokol’s engineers gave an hour-long presentation, presenting a convincing argument that the cold weather would exaggerate the problems of joint rotation and delayed O-ring seating. The lowest temperature experienced by the O-rings in any previous mission was 53°F, the January 24, 1985 flight. With a predicted ambient temperature of 26°F at launch, the O-rings were estimated to be at 29°F. After the technical presentation, Thiokol’s Engineering Vice President Bob Lund presented the conclusions and recommendations. His main conclusion was that 53°F was the only low temperature data Thiokol had for the effects of cold on the operational boosters. The boosters had experienced O-ring erosion at this temperature. Since his engineers had no low temperature data below 53°F, they could not prove that it was unsafe to launch at lower temperatures. He read his recommendations and commented that the predicted temperatures for the morning’s launch was outside the data base and NASA should delay the launch, so the ambient temperature could rise until the O-ring temperature was at least 53°F. This confused NASA managers because the booster design specifications called for booster operation as low as 31°F. (It later came out in the investigation that Thiokol understood that the 31°F limit temperature was for storage of the booster, and that the launch temperature limit was 40°F. Because of this, dynamic tests of the boosters had never been performed below 40°F.) Marshall’s Solid Rocket Booster Project Manager, Larry Mulloy, commented that the data was inconclusive and challenged the engineers’ logic. A heated debate went on for several minutes before Mulloy bypassed Lund and asked Joe Kilminster for his opinion. Kilminster was in management, although he had an extensive engineering background. By bypassing the engineers, Mulloy was calling for a middle-management decision, but Kilminster stood by his engineers. Several other managers at Marshall expressed their doubts about the recommendations, and finally Kilminster asked for a meeting off of the net, so Thiokol could review its data. Boisjoly and Thompson tried to convince their senior managers to stay with their original decision not to launch. A senior executive at Thiokol, Jerald Mason, commented that a management decision was required. The managers seemed to believe the O-rings could be eroded up to one third of their diameter and still seat properly, regardless of the temperature. The data presented to them showed no correlation between temperature and the blow-by gasses which eroded the O-rings in previous missions. According to testimony by Kilminster and Boisjoly, Mason finally turned to Bob Lund and said, “Take off your engineering hat and put on your management hat.” Joe Kilminster wrote out the new recommendation and went back on line with the teleconference. The new recommendation stated that the cold was still a safety concern, but their people had found that the original data was indeed inconclusive and their “engineering assessment” was that launch was recommended, even though the engineers had no part in writing the new recommendation and refused to sign it. Alan McDonald, who was present with NASA management in Florida, was surprised to see the recommendation to launch and appealed to NASA management not to launch. NASA managers decided to approve the boosters for launch despite the fact that the predicted launch temperature was outside of their operational specifications.
Come on people (with a satirical twist). It’s hard for these ‘experts’ to deceive the whole world. We must give them some kind of never-ending fame they deserve for all of their hard work.
They must dream, every night, of the best nightmares, spend years sorting for the scariest and most frightening scenarios. Isolate the most sellable to the gullible. Just any old nightmare will not do! They must find the ones with real world class reality. Even the best movie directors (sorry Steven) can’t reach this level of true realism.
They must give talks before congresses and assemblies across this globe to open channels to funds and grants to buy their tour buses and private jets. And all of that fuel! It doesn’t come cheap. Tax dollars are best reserved for this.
They must fly the world over to find the perfect cases to support their claims. Films and photographs. Charts and slides. Think of all that hard work!
The work is endless. Scheduling, back-door deals, writing books, writing papers, handling all of that data so imperceptibly fudged. Deception at this level is so hard that only the best, the most powerful of this world, can master this trade. Give them their due credit for goodness sake! These are masterpieces!
What’s needed is something along the line of a permanent ‘Watt’s Not!’ page to glorify their achievements for our children and our children’s children to know and keep. These great achievements by these ‘experts’ should never, ever, be forgotten! Come on, admit it. They deserve this well earned credit! And as their nightmares prove false, one by one, they can be entered into this truly deserved ‘World Climate Science Hall of Fame’! They’re lining up as we speak.
(Contestants must use word stating claims as fact. Entries using such words as may, maybe, possibly, it may come to pass, if, however to lighten their claims will be disqualified. All entries must be either “peer reviewed” or “scientifically referenced” by other ‘experts’ to be eligible.)
Wish this was but a dream.
Re the Barrier Reef : the amount of scare stories about it is unbelievable. Most people think of ‘the reef’ as the couple of places out from Cairns that you visit on a boat. They forget it stretches over a thousand km and is unimaginably large. If you ever fly over it in a plane, you start to realize that a bunch of starfish, C02 or just about anything else is not going to destroy it. When the coral spawns once a year, it creates a murky stretch of water that goes for thousands of kilometres. The reef is dead, long live the reef.
On becoming a scientist, here’s my prediction : climate change will affect the molecular structure of steel, with increased warming our buildings will stretch beyond their original dimensions, windows will pop out and in some cases, the building will crumple and fall. Please send research monies to….
Final note : that Thames flooding picture is an excellent piece of work. Is it CGI from a disaster movie, or did someone photoshop that up. The reflections of the buildings in the flood water, the ‘wake’ left by the buildings, truly magnificent work.
Someone should try to post this very entertaining stream of comments to RealClimate
George E. Smith (10:56:40) :
This is George E. Smith; popular Non Nobel Physics Prize Nonwinner reporting the Science Daily News for Jan 19 2010; with less than three years remaining till the end of time.
****************************
Are you insane man?? You just gave up a perfectly plausible prediction for the end of the known universe, and from all accounts did not ask for nor receive a govt grant to do so. You are harming all the feeding trough climate warmists at a pace no less than what humanity is doing to the polar bear! Repent sinner, and sin no more!!
LOL
…and in a cruel twist of irony:
Al Gore invents Internet
Al Gore invents Theory of Global Warming
Internet used to destroy Theory of Global Warming
Be carefull what you invent, it may come back at you in unexpected ways….
Jeremy (10:44:00) wrote:
“If you wanted an article that was exhibit A as to the Green movement being a religion …”
Speaking of the Green movement and religion … Today, Canada’s National Post (of all papers!) has the following as a front-page story:
“Brought to the brink by climate change
“Mardi Tindal, the newly elected moderator of the United Church of Canada, returned from last month’s climate change summit in Copenhagen with a deep malaise. Not a true clinical depression, but an anxious despair that reduced her to weeping.
[…]
” At services this Sunday at more than 200 United churches across Canada, a letter by Ms. Tindal was read to her congregations, describing how she was “heartbroken because it was clear to me, as it was to many of you, that the talks in Copenhagen needed to succeed, that it is no longer safe for us to go on as we have before,” and urging them to do “whatever you can imagine” to reduce carbon emissions.
And in the same article:
“Climate change could have “significant negative effects on global mental health,” according to a new scientific report in the journal Psychological Medicine. It predicts that many of these negative effects will be felt not by those who are already mentally ill (although they will likely bear the brunt), but also by otherwise healthy people, such as Ms. Tindal, who will suffer “psychological distress, anxiety and traumatic stress.”
“The author, U.K. psychiatrist Lisa Page, cites “altered patterns of infectious disease, injuries from severe weather events, food and water scarcity, and population displacement” as mechanisms by which global warming could cause “an increase in the overall burden of mental disorder worldwide.”
“Dr. Page cites “preliminary evidence” of more extreme possibilities: […]”
http://digital.nationalpost.com/epaper/showarticle.aspx?article=2e661490-b9e3-4ed0-bb10-
“”” tucker (16:35:36) :
George E. Smith (10:56:40) :
This is George E. Smith; popular Non Nobel Physics Prize Nonwinner reporting the Science Daily News for Jan 19 2010; with less than three years remaining till the end of time.
****************************
Are you insane man?? You just gave up a perfectly plausible prediction for the end of the known universe, and from all accounts did not ask for nor receive a govt grant to do so. You are harming all the feeding trough climate warmists at a pace no less than what humanity is doing to the polar bear! Repent sinner, and sin no more!!
LOL “””
Hey man; qwit buggin me; I got less than three years to climb to the top of the mountain to watch the sun crash into the sea, and end it all. And at my age, in my decrepid state, I’m gonna need most of that three years to get there.
OT, but in defense of my favourite newspaper, it did redeem itself with the following:
Peter Foster: IPCC meltdown
“Now the question is whether Rajendra Pachauri should resign
“The Himalayan glaciers will still be around in 2035, contrary to oft-repeated alarmist claims by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Whether the IPCC’s head, Rajendra Pachauri, whose credibility is melting faster than the proverbial snowball in Hades, will make it to his next paycheque is another matter.
“With Climategate still simmering and the collapse of Copenhagen reverberating, a fresh storm has blown up over the discovery that the IPCC’s claim that Himalayan glaciers were about to disappear is entirely bogus.
[…]”
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/01/19/peter-foster-ipcc-meltdown.aspx
This is George E. Smith; popular Non Nobel Physics Prize Nonwinner reporting the Science Daily News for Jan 19 2010; with less than three years remaining till the end of time
Didn’t believe you but put in a call to the Restaurant at the End of the Universe and they confirmed no bookings beyond that date. Or is that how you found out in the first place?
I think the Mayan calandar runs out in 2012, have seen several dates during that year (last was Dec 21). Two years, 11 months. Better get a move on, George.
As the World’s Greatest Expert on Everything (including Science) I predict that many of us will be dead in fifty years. And darn near all in a hundred.
davidmhoffer (12:09:51) :
“…Seriously though, I graphed the accumulated national deficit against the IPCC world temperatures and the correlation is excellent. National debt caused global warming. Am I a scientist now?”
REPLY:
No, No, you have it backwards, Global Warming causes the National Debt to increase just ask Obama. Aren’t we now on the steep upward rise part of the graph of Gore’s Hockey stick? Soon we will need a step ladder….
Anyone in the UK remember a BBC program from the 1970s presented by Raymond Baxter – the topic was whether the recent global cooling meant we were on the precipice of a new ice age, and various experts were interviewed to give their opinions.
I tried to find a reference to it on the web but no luck so far. It would be interesting to know what was said!
George E. Smith (16:47:51) :
“”” tucker (16:35:36) :
George E. Smith (10:56:40) :
This is George E. Smith; popular Non Nobel Physics Prize Nonwinner reporting the Science Daily News for Jan 19 2010; with less than three years remaining till the end of time.
****************************
…Hey man; qwit buggin me; I got less than three years to climb to the top of the mountain to watch the sun crash into the sea, and end it all. And at my age, in my decrepid state, I’m gonna need most of that three years to get there.
REPLY
Hey George, I have a nice pony and a cart and harness, want to borrow it? sure beats walking and goes places ATVs can’t.
George E. Smith (16:47:51) :
“”” tucker (16:35:36) :
George E. Smith (10:56:40) :
Hey man; qwit buggin me; I got less than three years to climb to the top of the mountain to watch the sun crash into the sea, and end it all. And at my age, in my decrepid state, I’m gonna need most of that three years to get there.
George, for suitable financial recompense (hey, you can’t take it with you at the end of the world), I’ll climb the mountain with a video camera and send a live feed to your PC. Deal?
Considering the MSM covers alarmist procastinations with zeal, and seem to get a fair bit of their “news” from the internet, and warmist politicians jump on the “news” immediately, why wouldn’t we “plant” alarming predictions of our own? The affects could be..
1-) Loss of credibility for MSM, warmist politicians and future alarmist views.
2-)MSM may be forced to better “fact check” future alarmist predictions (ditto politicians)
3-) Hence putting the brakes on future alarmist predictions.
We could render the “tool of alarmism” useless.
Any thoughts?
How does the saying go? If your cause becomes the butt of satire and ridicule, the end of your cause is near. I hear the feet of doom approaching AGW as I type.
I am strangely in admiration that the average public that does not frequent blogs like this one intuitively know that AGW is a fraud, and are voting thumbs down on it to the great consternation of govts worldwide.
Mattweezer (10:02:14) :
I have to go with Gore’s several million degrees, at least some of the predictions could have happened (however unlikely), in Gore’s case he is 100% wrong and 100% amusing. After all, he’s trying to make himself into the climate god.
It’s pretty clear why he doesn’t debate and doesn’t even let anybody attend his speeches who might ask an embarrassing question like, “How hot is the visible surface of the sun?”
Gail, my sincere apologies, I’m in Canada so I used Canadian national debt. It never crossed my mind that some other country could be at fault. No point asking Obama, if he moved to Canada he would be the most right wing politician in the country. I did ask our Prime Minister though, and he insists that the American deficit being so much larger than ours, we have no real effect on world matters.
Now China has recently been posting large surpluses. Is that perhaps driving the recent cooling trend?
Check out this article. She could have asked some harder questions!! In spite of the softballs lobbed at him, he still comes off as the evil emperor from the Star Wars series. /Users/david/Documents/Microsoft%20User%20Data/Saved%20Attachments/Maurice%20Strong%20The%20U.N.&apos%3Bs%20Man%20of%20Mystery%20-%20WSJ.com.htm
This may work better …………………………….. /Users/david/Desktop/Maurice Strong The U.N.'s Man of Mystery – WSJ.com.htm
Sorry, ham-handed attempt at posting a link. Little help?
REPLY: super easy, just type it in as it appears below, wordpress will do the rest, including making the autolink
http://www.wattsupwiththat.com
Here, David:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122368007369524679.html
Steve Goddard (10:18:10) :
Ahh, Feynman. Now there’s an intelligent, humble scientist whose words should always be listened to. His presence is greatly missed.
I’ve compiled a list of ‘must-have’ inventory items for parents to purchase should they wish for their little darling seedlings to become a science expert :
– wizard’s hat (must be a deep ocean blue colour with gold stars)
– crystal ball (set on ash wood stand)
– tarot cards (Sylvia Browne special order only)
– magic wand (made from, of course, ash wood)
– white lab coat (stocked with pocket protector and leaky pens)
– SuperSeer-Omatic 6000 personal computer (batteries not included)
– hand-held thermometer (in case your computer model crashes)
– gun-metal grey garbage bin (to toss those pesky 10 yr old data files)
– bendable rubber ruler (because sometimes precision doesn’t matter)
But the absolutely most important item that every wannabe climate science expert must have :
– one medium sized sky blue genuine crystal stone to rub around your belly button counterclockwise three times each night at exactly three strokes before midnight (will drastically improve ones ability to lie with a straight face… yes kids, even to your mommy and daddy !)
Got it!! Thanks very much !!! 8^D http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122368007369524679.html
Having what I like to call a “Three Stooges” day. 8^B (this emoticon looks more like Jerry Lewis, but you get the idea).
David Ball (18:45:49)
That looks like the “address” of the material on your computer, not on the net. You can’t get to one from the other. I see Roger Knights (19:25:42) has found it for you.
Henry chance (09:47:06) :
Favorite:
Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past Monday, 20 March 2000 According to Dr David Viner.
Too bad buildings still have windows. we can see that was never true.
Too bad you left of the rest of his statement: “Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. “We’re really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time,” he said.”
Looks like he was on the money, just a little off in the timing.
Here’s how scientists are supposed to go about their business.
“Why won’t the supernova explode?”
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2010/07jan_nustar.htm
Their computer models aren’t working. What do they do? “Fix” them with “artificial corrections”? NO! They don’t insist their models are correct and their observing methods must be wrong*. They discard the parts of their theories that didn’t match what real supernovas do and they make more observations of reality to improve their models.
*”I reject your reality and substitute my own!” Best line ever said on Mythbusters.
Phil tells us that two winters in a row with heavy snow is an indication that snow is diminishing. Thanks for that wisdom!
Charlie Veron, former chief scientist of the Australian Institute of Marine Science,
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6652866.ece
A real expert is a former drip under pressure. Any one can be a Real Climate Science expert.
How about this gem:
“How cold is it in Antarctica? According to Weather Underground, Vostok, Antarctica is forecast to reach -113F on Friday. That is four degrees below the freezing point of CO2 and would cause dry (CO2) ice to freeze directly out of the air.”
“What Does it Take to Be a Science Expert?”
Shoot! I get lots of junk mail offers of advancical degreedys from prestidigical instisolutions. Never responded to any of ’em but maybe I too could be “a xpurt.”
Circa 1900, Lord Kelvin announced that physics was over – we knew it all. only 5 years later Max Planck received a paper from a little know patent clerk….. In the meantime Kiel University in Germany had closed its physics department.
In 1958 Eugene Parker suggested that inter-planetary space was full of ‘solar wind’. He was derided, until satellite measurements from 1960 proved him right. It is possible that fluctuations in this solar wind (associated with sunspots) determine the cosmic ray flux that controls cloud formation (and hence the Earth’s albedo). Hey Ho.
I fell about when I read this…
http://www.noteviljustwrong.com/blog/general/327
“What is the freezing temperature for carbon dioxide? around -109.3 degrees Fahrenheit”
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_freezing_temperature_for_carbon_dioxide
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-25061-Climate-Change-Examiner~y2009m11d5-Climate-change-induced-disaster-predictions-falling-flat
However, for me here in London, it was the Met Office’s forecast that the winter of 2008/9 would be mild. (presumably such forecasts are based on those odd *emissions scenarios*, which sound more like economic business plan talk) In fact it was a long freeze. After the event they said “It would have been even colder had it not been for global warming”.
The audacity.
A couple of days ago I watched an entertaining documentary about the catastrophic events of a future enormous solar storm. Obviously the documentary was made a few years ago.
Right at the end the narrator ominously says: “The next solar maximum will be in 2011”.
Amazing what a difference a few years can make….
Chris
How do we go about selecting the deserving recipient for the Doomsday WUWT Trophy? So many to choose from? Such a plethora of hyperbole! Such a challenging peer review process!
What Does it Take to Be a Science Expert?
Ummm…Powerpoint and some willful ignorance?
Definition of expert.
Break it down;
From algebra: X=unknown quantity
From dictionary: spurt=drop of water under pressure.
Hence: expert=unknown drip under pressure.
Anticlimactic (18:03:17) :
Anyone in the UK remember a BBC program from the 1970s presented by Raymond Baxter – the topic was whether the recent global cooling meant we were on the precipice of a new ice age, and various experts were interviewed to give their opinions.
I tried to find a reference to it on the web but no luck so far. It would be interesting to know what was said!
I remember seeing it but also can’t find it, here is one from 2003 !!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2003/bigchill.shtml
Beth Cooper (05:53:36) Well isn’t that the pot calling the kettle black. Your post is a clear indication of the denial you are under. Look in the mirror, my dear.
And what was that about “peer-review”? Have you been living under a rock?
Anticlimactic (18:03:17) :: here is a link to videos from the 70’s about the coming ice age. this was posted on WUWT previously. The 3rd one has Steven Schnieder predicting an ice age.
http://www.minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2009/09/unearthed-video-global-warming-alarmist-warned-of-ice-age-in-1970s.html
David,
I think Beth is poking fun at alarmists.
Thank you Steven, but I have never seen a post by her before (that I can recall) and the link to her name goes to “page not found”. I wish people were more clear as it is difficult to pick up sarcasm without any clues to said sarcasm. My apologies to Beth if Steven is correct.
My favorite is the Siemens ad by Google. Don’t know if you see the same.
>>Does one really need a computer to guess that there
>>will be between 63 cases and 136,000 cases?
Is that another of these ClimateGate spoonerisms? Like confusing the year 2350 with 2035, regards glacier melting?
.