BBC reported: Coldest December since 1981 (BBC, January 3, 2010)
It is still showing up in Google, but changes are afoot, odd that a headline like that can’t stand on its own:
And google news:
The URL for the story in the image above is:
but note the number of the story in the URL 8438408 now now goes to a different title, presto change-o!
Icy conditions lead to closure of Giant’s Causeway
Same URL:
h/t to Popular Technology
OT: Breaking News:
1.Earthquakes and Tsunamis Strike Solomon Islands
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_re_as/as_solomon_islands_quakes
2.Heaviest snowfall in Seoul, South Korea in 70 years:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_re_as/as_asia_storms
talking about feedback. this is not really a feedback but does have inpact on albedo
http://www.weer.nl/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads/pics/20090104_Modis.jpg&width=500m&height=500&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgColor%3D%22%23ffffff%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript:close();%22%3E%20|%20%3C/a%3E&md5=1938be0be7402051021591049618a1ec
it a picture of snowcover in The Netherlands. You can see the difference in albedo in snow in a forest and on land belonging to farmers. There is just a small part wich we call ‘forest’.
This is a question for Lord Monckton or anyone else. Realclimate.org stated in their latest blog:
“a study about how much of the human emissions are staying the atmosphere (around 40%) and whether that is detectably changing over time. It does not undermine the fact that CO2 is rising. The confusion in the denialosphere is based on a misunderstanding between ‘airborne fraction of CO2 emissions’ (not changing very much) and ‘CO2 fraction in the air’ (changing very rapidly),”
Can someone explain to me the difference between these two in layman’s terms? I would ask on the RC blog but the comments thread is ridiculously long.
[REPLY – In this case, RC is right. All the study claims is that 60% of what is being emitted is being reabsorbed (either immediately or over time), and that this percentage is not decreasing because the sinks are reaching their ‘capacity” to absorb. The other 40% accumulates. An estimated 8 BMTC (anthropogenic) per year is emitted, and atmospheric carbon is c. 770 BMTC or so. So CO2 atmospheric carbon goes up by a little under half a percent per year. Now my contention is that CO2 does not have the effect (esp. re feedbacks) that RC claims it has, but that is a separate argument. ~ Evan]
Good science questions. I see the warmist radicals really are not looking for science and testing their conclusions. This will be a tough year for the wrmist cartel.
If there is a causal and linear relationship, this frigid cycle must be connected to a drop in CO2.
Great response from Lord Monckton – as ever cogent, polite and packed with FACTS.
Well, using the Monckton Formula to calculate the IPCC temperature increase from pre-industrial times (278 ppm CO2) until now (388 ppm) I get:
delta-T = 4.7 * ln 1.4
which gives me
delta-T = 1.6 degrees Celsius.
In reality we have seen a temperature increase of only about 0.7 C during this period (and most of that attributable to other causes than CO2 concentration increases), if even that.
So is the rest still “in the pipeline” and about to hit us, or is IPCC wrong? My guess is that IPCC is wrong…
Minitruth at work.
“Of course I know the difference! Climate is when it’s warming and weather is when it’s not!”
I’ve noticed the ‘media’ downplaying the cold here in the USA. But, some have mentioned the new record lows. In general, reports on the ongoing very cold temps goes something like this: “below average, but not unprecedented”
It is kind of difficult to ignore feet of snow and a freeze in Florida.
It really does show that they are not just biased but are proactively pushing global warming.
There is a huge difference between their statement that the science is settled and they therefore don’t need to publish ‘non-scientific’ news and proactively changeing scientific news per se. That is very close to criminal and most certainly contavenes their charter.
They have just saved that headline and the associated HTML to use it on december 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, etc.☺
Pwince Bat Ears the serial adulterer of the house of Hanover can’t take the truth. Sadly apparently neither can Google. Many more of these sort of presto chango switches and they will lose their community.
Anthony? What happened to Monckton’s ‘reply’ post?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/04/christopher-monckton-of-brenchley-replies-to-readers/
Isnt it true that “…in a warmer world, extratropical storminess and weather variability will decrease”?
-quoting Richard Lindzen – ‘Is the Global warming alarm founded on fact?’
Shouldn’t the UK chill and the Beijing record snow therefore persuade rapid climate change proponents to take a pause?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8439179.stm
usual disgraceful ****e. I wonder if Joe Abless has been emailing Richard Black? There is somethig seriously wrong with the BBC’s environment team.
I will be emailing them forthwith and urge all Britons to do similarly about this kind of nonsense..
No matter what the headlines at the BBC are people in the UK can feel global warming isn’t happening.
Arctic cold is also hitting China
A FREEZING cold front swept over much of northern China on Sunday with snowstorms snarling traffic and air travel, while some of the coldest temperatures in decades were forecast for coming days… believed to be the coldest in the capital in 40 years.
http://www.theage.com.au/world/siberian-winds-usher-in-record-lows-in-beijing-20100103-lna6.html
They manage to get the message accross in the text that it’s the coldest spell since 1981.
Having a poke around Armagh observatory and it looks like they have images of the written temp records going back 200 years.
A few more of these acurate records could provide a real insight into just what the hecks been going on these past few hundred years.
Hide the decline—Hide the decline—Hide the….
BBC Weather
Coldest night since 1995 recorded
Overnight temperatures in the south of Scotland have reached their lowest level in more than 14 years.
Figures at the Met Office’s Eskdalemuir observatory in Dumfries and Galloway hit -14C on Sunday, the coldest since December 1995.
Anthony, I suspect it’s been changed because it’s wrong – the mean (CET) temperature was more like 3.1C – nothing like as cold as December 1981 which was -.3C I think. December was the coldest since the mid nineties. OK?
…record freezing weather grips Europe, north America and Asia….avalanches in the Swiss Alps….Panhandle and much of northern Florida is under a hard freeze warning….more deaths in India….-20C in Moscow today…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240319/As-Britain-told-expect-snow-10-days-rest-world-coping-Arctic-weather.html
My bad, the story is for N. Ireland – I’m wrong.
Ok, then it’s a BBC/leftie/comie conspiracy to decieve us all!
Did the link ever lead to a BBC article with that title? Sometimes the title of links don’t match the title on the linked page. Only today I clicked on a link on Yahoo finance entitled “US to consider lesser term for ubs whistleblower.” The title on the page was something about mid west business jumping to a 4 yr high.
In other words, it may just be an error.
I still cant get over the August the year before last. Perishingly cold, day and night, not one warm day in the UK.
And the met office said that it was warmer than average.
Forgive me for not trusting their data.
And isnt the whole northern hemisphere suffering a chill at the moment? I thought that the manmade greenhouse gas theory said that the ambient temperature of the planet would warm, given the constant value of sunlight. And yet it looks to me to have cooled, how can that be?
The Sea Ice and the Polar Temperature charts have not been updated in 5 days?
Apparently math is not a strong point for the writer of this story. “Coldest winter for 18 years-and worse to come.” Maybe they are stuck in 1999?
http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&category=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=IPED04%20Jan%202010%2014%3A30%3A19%3A160
What is clearly happening is that whenever a story gets released that seems to cast doubt on global warming, the astroturfers kick into gear and get emailing their favourite head honchos like Dick Black at BBC and the rest to try to get things portrayed more favourably.
Of course in public they’ll shrilly claim that stories like these are in the “weather not climate” section, but privately they betray a different opinion.
The quality of investigative journalism has been exposed as disgraceful following Climategate. I don’t think I’ve known before the media to turn a blind eye to such an atrocious behaviour. No wonder their readership is going down while places like WUWt is going up.
“Presto change-o” Catch the Amazing BBC each night, tip your waitress and please, try the veal.
Can’t allow the ignorant masses to see the truth now, can we?
They left this bit in, though.
“Last month was the coldest December in almost 30 years according to readings taken at the Armagh Observatory.
The mean temperature was 1.5C, the coldest average measurement since 1981.”
At least for the moment…….
For fun, CNN has the following headlines:
“Dangerous cold covers much of U.S. ”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/weather/01/04/cold.weather/index.html
And “Snow wallops China”
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/weather/2010/01/03/vause.lok.china.snow.cnn
Ready about. Lee-oh.
Change of tack, eh?
The Irish Times is not as shy as the BBC, http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0104/breaking26.htm
” December was coldest month in 28 years “
Piers Corbyn got it right! Again!
Let me guess. Roger Harrabin ghost wrote the article but Jo Abbess didn’t find it agreeable so she wrote to him saying she would get all her heavies on him and hey presto article changed.
I wonder if this is the same info:
http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/Coldest-December-in-three-decades.5952721.jp
“Coldest December in three decades”
We should know it is all about manipulation, deceit, and control of the masses that drive this planet’s continued wars, profits, and the slave culture.
Big fan here Anthony but not really sure every malodorous headline edit requires your, and our, attention.
Wow! That is messed up! The only mention of temperature in the “new” article is this:
“The average temperature for 2009, at 9.87C, was close to the average of 9.94C for the last 20 years.”
I love how they no longer say “The coldest December since 1981.” They now say “close to the average.” That is truly messed up!
Snow and cold records from 12/28/09 to 1/4/10 in US
http://mapcenter.hamweather.com/records/7day/us.html?c=maxtemp,mintemp,lowmax,highmin,snow
What’s that red dot in Roswell, NM??? hehe
It’s sad to see the BBC react to climate dogma in a Pavlovian fashion.
It looks like the Met office has placed a call to the BBC…..
BBC News headlines are fairly fluid – this isn’t that rare an event – I have often had difficulty following the comment threads due to this practice.
Existential crises in news rooms. How do you report on record snow and record cold and promote AGW alarmism at the same time?
“Cold would be worse without warming” would make people like AGW.
“Record cold doesn’t mean it isn’t hotter” is a bit hard to sell.
I still like the whole “AGW could cause an ice age or cause the oceans to boil” narrative. All bases covered there.
I remember the December of 1981. I lived on Loch Tayside and the loch froze over before Christmas. It was a rare event – according to the locals it was the first time since 1963 that the loch had frozen. It melted between Christmas and New Year and froze again after New Year.
January 1982 was also cold. I also remember the BBC showing the temperature ‘live’ from Braemar in the hope of breaking the record of -28.2C or so which had stood since 1885 or thereabouts. Unfortunately a front moved in from the west – the record was equaled – and that was the end of the winter.
There was a beautiful total eclipse of the moon on January 9th and I remember running the 3 miles to Archie’s pub in Kenmore and telling everyone in the bar – all 3 of them – that there was an eclipse. (I ran everywhere in those days. Until I bought a bike.)
My job then was a tree planter. How green and eco friendly is that?
And that was even before the bandwaggon left town…
People go on about the cold winters in the UK in the late 70’s. I used to keep temperature records at that time. The only long cold winter was 1978/1979. It started in late December 1978 and lasted until May 1979! Then there was 1981/82 – it started in November 1981 and lasted until mid January 1982. I also remember a big snowfall on 28th January 1978 which was all gone a few days later.
It looks as though they’re too frightened to offend the greenies. I tell you this thing has a grip of fear on the MSM, so much so that the BBC, a once reverred institution won’t report the truth in case it offends the uber-environmentalists.
Usual surreptitious BBC. If it turns out to be warm in July, they will trumptet something like “Warmest July since 2004”
I have documented another example here:
http://simonfiliatrault.blogspot.com/2010/01/climage-change-control-of-information.html
I wonder what the temperature would have been if we hadn’t caused warming? I was kinda hoping for a pary on the Thames, oh well. Luck they changed it to climate change in time, otherwsie this could be very confusing.
Coldest night for Scotland in 15 years
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/south_of_scotland/8439259.stm
It must be the sun. After the winter solstice, the sunlight hours are still short. Less radiant heat and not enough CO2 to warm the blankets.
Joe Romm is now blowing off steam. Texas educators are allowing science students to question warming and warming theories. He is exhibiting anxiety because the children may read about the warming hoax. He calls it historical revisionism. The liberal news wants doctrinating headlines and the warmistas want children to not hear opposing views.
Perhaps writers should start using code phrases to avoid the attentions of the fat controller.
Oh and what the heck. From the Burlington, VT Free Press:
“Vermont snowstorm breaks record”
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20100104/NEWS02/100103021/Vermont-snowstorm-breaks-record
And they nicely list the top five snowstorms on record:
1. 32.9 inches — Jan. 2-3, 2010.
2. 29.8 inches — Dec. 25-28, 1969.
3. 25.7 inches — Feb. 14-15, 2007.
4. 24.7 inches — Jan. 13-14, 1934
5. 22.9 inches — March 5-6, 2001.
Interestingly, the same issue has the following article:
“No hoax: Global-warming data sound despite stolen e-mails”
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20100103/LIVING09/91230016/No-hoax-Global-warming-data-sound-despite-stolen-e-mails
From the weather isn’t climate department –
SEOUL, South Korea – Seoul residents battled the heaviest snowfall in modern Korean history after a winter storm dumped more than 10 inches Monday, forcing airports to cancel flights and paralyzing traffic in South Korea’s bustling capital.
Southern Illinois television stations are reporting near record low temperatures, the lowest since 1911, 5F according to Ch3 and 9F according to NWS, giving a 4F difference between observations only a few hundred meters away from Ch.3. Localized manmade global warming during extraordinarily low temperatures….
Why not – in the interests of balance – run an article looking at what the weather is doing in the southern hemisphere as we in the northern hemisphere go through our winter?
Google is being evil.
Things change fast! First Monckton’s reply gone, now the BBC headline… Good news however is that it still resides in the article itself:
have you not been listening at all? Did you miss the lesson where we were told that extreme weather events (like all this cold stuff) were themselves evidence for global warming. And did you no see what happened to the rude boy who put his hand up and said, ‘but Miss, doesn’t that mean almost anything could count as ‘evidence’ for global warming’?
It’s amazing how these temperature records go back to the time of Newsweek’s “Global Cooling” piece.
The Armagh Station data from the Met Office is here:
http://www.meto.gov.uk/climate/uk/stationdata/armaghdata.txt
The figures quoted by the BBC will still be ‘provisional’. Be interesting to see if the December 2009 average still looks like 1.5 C after it’s been ‘worked on’…
wattsupwiththatChristopher Monckton of Brenchley replies to readers: http://wp.me/p7y4l
Sorry for OT, please delete if you wish, but I read this item earlier this morning on WUWT and now it appears to have disappeared. I have tried the link from Twitter but get to the BBC item. What am I doing wrong?
John Goetz (08:01:39)
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20100103/LIVING09/91230016/No-hoax-Global-warming-data-sound-despite-stolen-e-mails
If you dig just a little you find (surprise – surprise) that the persons that reviewed the emails were – Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter,
Nothing to see here folks, please move along!
Did you see that?
Three of the 5 years with the heaviest snow fall in Vermont were in the last decade!
Global Warming, surely!
and Russia
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2010/01/and-russia.html
“Moscow is covered in deep snow (picture left) and the snowfall in St Petersburg has broken a 130-year record.”
I went from the ‘World News’ page to ‘Weather’ to ‘Weather News’ and found seven thumbnail links to interesting cold, snow, flood, and avalanche stories – enough for any weather junkie – from multiple countries. So while someone may have been playing with the headlines they do seem to be well informed of such stories from around the world.
From this chart
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CET-SWt.gif
is clear that majority of the CE temperature rise is slow recovery from LIA, and mainly by the rise in winter temperatures. Last 5-6 years shows stabilisation of the winter temps , while during last 10 years summers’ have actually fallen.
Even if GW is due to CO2 (which I believe it is not) any further warming in winters could be only beneficial to the population of UK (lower heating bills and less carbon consumed for heating).
Despite the Primary Directive’s “Prior Authorization of Speech and Acts Precept” whose violation constituted what Winston knew to be a certain path to the banks of NOAA’s never having existed data code – and as had once allegedly befallen the quasi-mythical “CRU Leaker” from a faintly preserved cultural tale sometimes recounted by the few surviving “Elderlies” who had avoided the British and American National Health Services – the BBC had apparently been infiltrated by one of the Skeptic Mutants!
Gaurdian takes the cake for absurd non-sequitur:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/03/peru-mountain-farmers-winter-cold
May have. Really.
Oh, I meant to include this in my comment about the BBC stories:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/hi/news
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And: the folks at the AMSR-E Sea Ice office seem to be on an extended Christmas break.
@ John Goetz
Thanks for the link to the Burlington Free Press article. I got as far as the byline and noticed that one of the authors was Seth Borenstein a journalist well-known in this blog for his unwavering commitment to forensic investigation of AGW.
A new year, same old faces!
Makes this comment almost prescient:
“But the influence of La Nina declined in the spring and the Met Office project that, barring a very cold December, this year will be the fifth warmest on record.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8377128.stm
Here is another good one, see how CNN is reporting the North American temperatures.
http://weather.cnn.com/weather/maps.jsp?region=se&mapview=radar
The radar map comes up and displays the current date. If the map won’t load (happens often), click stop and reload. Be sure you are sitting down, then click on the temperature button.
72 degrees in New York on Jan 04! LOL!
Ozzie:
They are: Quechua speakers are dying in the southern Peruvian alpine summer due to the severe cold. This is then attributed to global warming causing glaciers to melt.
I’m 20 miles from Edinburgh City centre and it was -15.2 C last night in my garden with around 20 inches of accumulated snow. This prolonged and repeated snow (3 weeks now) has not happened in my lifetime. Last week the BBC were predicting -4 C while I was reading -14C on my digital thermometer. That is too much of a UHI for credibility.
“If you dig just a little you find (surprise – surprise) that the persons that reviewed the emails were – Seth Borenstein, Raphael Satter and Malcolm Ritter…”
They did manage to get this old canard in though, I tried to register to ask them if they could point me to one article that had a definite definable link between human emissions and global temperatures This is the latest soundbite from the warmists, the overwhelming evidence is of warming, CO2 has gone up, it must be caused by CO2, that’s the overwhelming evidence. You have to give it to them, the alarmist that is, they can articulate soundbites that can fool anyone in the press.
“But the exchanges don’t undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse-gas emissions.”
Let’s just say that AGW does cause record snowfall… I mean, come on.
Even if warmer temps put it in the air, it would come down as rain on a warmer planet, right? It is the cooler temps that produce snowfall. So, for all those saying it is because the planet is warmer, heavy snowfalls were expected, one could always ask “wouldn’t it be raining, not snowing, especially in places, like copenhagen, that usually don’t get snow?”
Peter Hearnden,
“Anthony, I suspect it’s been changed because it’s wrong – the mean (CET) temperature was more like 3.1C – nothing like as cold as December 1981 which was -.3C I think. December was the coldest since the mid nineties. OK?”
This report does not refer to the Central England Temperature (CET) which has been repeatedly doctored and is now unbelievable, but instead to the raw data from Armagh, which unfortunately is pre-adjustment and therefore gives the real story.
It is a travesty that we can’t explain this cold is’t it?
I feel sorry for those souls left up on Tan Hill for 4 days as there was no way out due to the cold and snow.
I wonder if the same alarmists got to the BBC again?
The BBC Changes News to Accommodate Activist
How much did “Big Oil” have to pay to get the weather to turn cold like this?
John Goetz said:
Interestingly, the same issue has the following article:
“No hoax: Global-warming data sound despite stolen e-mails”
I see that the author is Seth Borenstein. He is aware that he is being scrutinized. But it is not stopping him at all.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/12/aps-seth-borenstein-is-just-too-damn-cozy-with-the-people-he-covers-time-for-ap-to-do-somethig-about-it/
Last “hot spot” on the south pacific, dwindling…the last WATTS from a cooling sea.
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
[REPLY – Yikes! Look at that cooling spot spreading west off Peru! So much for El Nino! ~ Evan]
I find it incredibly odd that all of the media is so invested in the whole AGW dogma. I know that there is money to be made, but there is also money to be made in exposing the truth, etc. I believe that it is primarily the inability of humans to let go of their “previous truths” than pure greed.
Regardless, it is a sad state.
Knock! Knock! Anyone home? Anthony? Evan?
There seems to be a problem. Care to explain? What happened to Monckton’s reply? Why no explaination?
[REPLY – Don’t know. I will leave this unposted for Anthony’s attention. ~ Evan]
REPLY: unsure, it is back now. Some glitch in WordPress.com I think – A
The Guardian:
Revisionista at http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/ is a good resource for seeing how BBC news stories evolve with time.
http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/202816/diff/0/1 shows the original “Coldest winter in UK for 13 years” story.
“Coldest December on record”
The headline was paid for by big oil to sell heating oil and drive up prices. They must have caught it and sent the money back.
Joe Romm is saying hottest evah.
Pingo (08:40:26) :
“I feel sorry for those souls left up on Tan Hill for 4 days as there was no way out due to the cold and snow.”
Yep, me too.
Must be hell trapped in a pub for 4 days …. especially if they run out of anything to drink. 😉
(Actually it could be quite serious being trapped up there but I would hope the pub was at least somewhat prepared since they must get similar situations more regularly than most UK pubs. And I could not resist the potential snarky humour …! Sorry.)
Peter Hearnden (07:31:49) :
My bad, the story is for N. Ireland – I’m wrong.
Ok, then it’s a BBC/leftie/comie conspiracy to decieve us all!
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‘I did a very foolish thing yesterday.’‥‘They say, many a true Word’s spoken in Jest.’
[1738, Swift, Polite Conversation i. iii.]
December 2009 was the coldest month EVER in Galway Ireland:
http://www.galwaynews.ie/10465-december-was-coldest-ever-month
“In general, reports on the ongoing very cold temps goes something like this: “below average, but not unprecedented””
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Well, yeah of course it is not unprecedented. The earth has gone from a boiling rock to 100% ice cover over it’s entire history. ANYTHING in-between these two extremes is therefore ‘not unprecedented’.
ALL weather that we experience at the moment has happened before.
Timescales are very interesting things. The warmists will use whatever timescale suits their propaganda. a record < 30 years for "unprecedented Arctic melting" or thousands of years (of corrupted data) to hide the MWP, LIA and current decline.
The trouble is that those winters in the UK are still mild by comparison to what Baltimore, USA gets every year. We just had 2′ of snow, far more than Beijing or Seoul got, and it was basically not even our worst. We were back in business in 1 day. Frankly, I went to work during the “blizzard” and had no problems. Baltimore is a cakewalk compared to Minnesota or other plains states. The UK is certainly capable of weathering a milder form of what we call winter, so, congrats to the Beeb for not going alarmist. If only we could convince them to do that with the warming that occurs every summer.
Oh, dear, and here we are in Greece, with a spring like weather (21-13C) until yesterday, a colder snap (11-8) for two days and then again south winds bringing everything up to the 18C :).
En plus, we got floods. Spring tides, full moon, combined with lots of rain in Europe emptying in the Med and 7 beaufort south winds brought the sea into seaside towns.
So of course we get the mantra ” global warming” “climate change” “human interference” galore in the news and discussions.
Disgusting.
Sigh.
Okay, folks, I’ve been following this site for a while now and I appreciate all the great work. I am a little put off by the chorus of folks jumping on recent cold weather as proof that AGW science is wrong (I’m not saying it’s right). I’m reminded of the truly idiotic people I encountered when living in NYC who would, only on hot days in the summer, complain about AGW. Shouln’t we skeptics try very hard to not play the same game as the AGW crowd?
Isn’t the real question as to whether the temps fall into the range of AGW models? There will of course be variability, right?
For a Libertarian perspective on climate change, check out http://libertariancomment.com/climate-change-whats-a-libertarian-to-do/
I have been thinking about how humans have been adapting to weather and climate since we first appeared on the Earth. Humans are made to handle warmth not cold. Having evolved in a warm climate it would be essential to do so in order to expand the habitat of humankind. As the habitat expanded humans came up with different ways to stay warm. Clothing and heated dwellings go along way to enable humans to live in much colder climates than would be in their natural range. Today we have found ways artificially heat every contained space, even our transportation, in order survive in the cold. We can now live in the Antarctic year round. Throughout history humans have found ways to stay warm and successfully spread across the globe. So why are we fighting this desire to be warm? Why in the world would anyone in their right mind want to make things colder?
It is not referred to as the British Broadcorping Castration for nothing.
Can’t say I am surprised at their continued shilling for global warming hysteria . . they have invested so much of their credibility into the whole scam it will be very difficult for them to accept reality.
BBC hides the decline 🙂
MiniTruth (BBC) is busy constantly rewriting the linked article.
It still contains the sentence “The mean temperature was 1.5C, the coldest average measurement since 1981”.
I made two hardcopies at different times. You can literally watch the sentence move down.
That does it. The BBC is right out now. Any decent blog would have made a note like “Update: Added mentioning of danger to plumbing at beginning of article because its much more important than a low temp record”.
This is no more a news source for me, no more than Der Spiegel or the NYT.
World warms as people clothe more wooly jumpers.
Weather chaos underpins climate certainty.
Cold too anomalous to substantiate counter-opinions.
World’s only six climate sceptics now down to four; two froze to death.
Record snowstorm in Burlington VT, 32.9 inches. 3 out of the top five snowstorms in Burlington have been from 2001 on. But we should just ignore the global cooling since 1998.
One of the reasons why tree ring proxies may not be reliable.
Most of the tree growth happens during warm months (spring and summer), although dendrochronologists use refinements such as the “early wood” or “spring wood” or the “late-spring wood” and the “late wood” or “summer wood”. Many factors are here at play, but it is assumed that the growing seasons’ temperatures are the most critical.
Judging by this graph
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CETs.gif
(data from Met Office Hadley Centre, with 10 year moving average, 2005 – 2010 diminishing ma) period for 1900 – 1930 would give misleading results, since growth would reflect cool spring and summer period, rather than higher mean due to the warm winters.
It appears that CET is currently entering similar period of seasonal anomaly divergence.
Wild species are wiser than “new age” climatologists:
(too cold up there!)
“Moose Makes New Homes In Northwest Corner”
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1655&dept_id=13116&newsid=20399743&PAG=461&rfi=9
About those Mooses
Are they looking for the GISS offices in NY?
What happened to the Monckton article? That is the one I (and at least one other, see the 5th and 6th comment from the beginning) commented, but now the article is gone and our comments have been appended to this article instead. Strange!
QUOTE
Pingo (08:40:26) :
“I feel sorry for those souls left up on Tan Hill for 4 days as there was no way out due to the cold and snow.”
Yep, me too.
Must be hell trapped in a pub for 4 days …. especially if they run out of anything to drink. 😉
(Actually it could be quite serious being trapped up there but I would hope the pub was at least somewhat prepared since they must get similar situations more regularly than most UK pubs. And I could not resist the potential snarky humour …! Sorry.)
/QUOTE
I have an eternal desire to get up to that pub, I do like a good English pub and that sounds like one of the best with sheep and goats allowed free roam throughout. Highest one in England as well, but requires exceptional patience to get there on public transport (I don’t drive).
If I was trapped there for 4 days then I think I would be eternally grateful, especially if I ought to be at work!
Hey, looks like these guys back in 2002 may have been on to something:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/view.php?id=22759
“Climate models constructed here at Texas A&M University were used to analyze ocean surface temperature records in the tropical Pacific since 1950. The results suggest that as much as one-half of all global surface warming since the 1970’s may be part of natural variation as distinct from the result of greenhouse gases,”
That reminds me of the NASA study that was featured here on WUWT (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/07/noaa-paper-north-american-2008-cooling-attributed-to-natural-causes/ <-sorry, I don't know the html tag to turn to text) a few weeks ago stating that natural variability had overpowered the warming. How much did it contribute to the warming? If it wasn't in cooling mode, it had to have been in warming mode. It is possible it was neutral, but doubtful that it would remain so for the entire time prior to the 'natural variability' in the study on WUWT.
Bratcher and Giese report that now conditions in the tropical Pacific are similar to those prior to the 1976 climate shift, except with the opposite sign. If conditions develop in a similar way, then the tropical Pacific could cool back to pre-1976 conditions.
Seems that they are correct from what we are seeing so far. I wonder how this bodes for the climate models. If they got the correct warming from the wrong forcings, then absolutely they are not correct and should not be trusted to make policy decisions.
Neo (08:08:36) :
It’s amazing how these temperature records go back to the time of Newsweek’s “Global Cooling” piece.
It won’t be too much longer, when the MSM realises that it has no wind in it’s sail. They will suddenly ‘rediscover’ the Global Cooling scare and trumpet it from their parapets.
The Florida citrus crop will get under threat soon.
It galls me that the Weather Channel can say that temperatures 15 to 25 degrees below normal are no big deal during the winter , but temps a few degrees above the average in summer are a sure sign of impending doom . BTW , St Simons Is , GA saw a new record low this am .
@AdderW
The IPCC keys into greenie westerner’s sensitivity to “victims”. The world’s poor are “victims” to the west’s ruthless corporations. That’s the IPCC’s public relations strategy.
Glenn (09:32:25) :
“Isn’t the real question as to whether the temps fall into the range of AGW models?”
No climate models predicted the flat to declining temperatures occurring over most of the past decade. Every one of them predicted rising temps.
The BBC is the para-military wing of Greenpeace.
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You guys are way too negative. This glass is not half-empty; this glass is half full. We have a breakthrough here! The BBC is, for the first time in my recent memory, using the word “cold” instead of various shades of “warm”. In the past, this event would have been described as “The 28th warmest December in the past 28 years.”
CH
>>f it turns out to be warm in July, they will trumptet
>>something like “Warmest July since 2004″
I like it when they come out with “warmest year since last year”.
.
It’s all “expected” and “consistent with models”.
snowmaneasy 7:50
The BBC Weather Centre is staffed by the Met Office.
More and more the BBC seems to be taking on an uncanny resemblence to George Orwell’s ”Ministry of Truth”.
Meanwhile, back in the real world:
Reports of very cold temps and heavy snow all over: North America, Europe, China, and now Russia (both in Moscow and the Russian Far East). Somehow paintings of Napoleon’s disasterous 1812 retreat from Moscow come to mind. . . .
China is getting whacked. Deep snow in Beijing. When we have a “snow day” in U.S. how many are affected? Several thousand when a metro district shuts down?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/04/beijing-south-korea-record-snow
For a satellite animation of weather over the East Asia:
http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/intersat/satpic_s.shtml?pv_mode=playback
Wait for all the images to download to see movement of cloud masses.
Beijing is about 39 degrees N.
Shanghai about 31N.
AdderW (09:03:51) :
The Guardian:
Climate change scepticism will increase hardship for world’s poor: IPCC chief
Somehow I am reminded of that proposed future New York Times headline:
World to be destroyed tomorrow!
Minorities and poor will be hardest hit!
Oh, this bit from the article is a keeper.
Pachauri said action from President Obama would be needed on top of Senate legislation. “The passage of legislation in that country [the US] will have to be supplemented with several initiatives to be put in place by the executive branch of the government,” Pachauri said.
So what Congress (not just the Senate) decides for us will not be enough, it will take some Imperial Decrees from High Lord Obama to save the planet? Wonderful understanding of American democracy there, Pachauri. Or are you simply stating this cannot be handled by democracy period?
Dave Worley (10:08:48) : That´s right…but with fashion models instead!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8439087.stm
Freezing temperatures are “Here to stay”
rbateman (09:51:23) :
The Florida citrus crop will get under threat soon.
Too late.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-01-02/u-s-east-coast-faces-deep-freeze-florida-oranges-threatened.html
Smokey (10:02:36) :
No climate models predicted the flat to declining temperatures occurring over most of the past decade. Every one of them predicted rising temps.
Which is why they had to hide the decline. Thier models could only forecast apocalyptic warming if the past had been flat as a Hockey Stick Handle pancake.
What they cannot hide is the flat temps which have turned into a full-fledged downward plunge. Such is the nature of climate.
The bottom fell out of the warming bubble.
Somebody needs to keep an eye on sea-levels. The bigger ships need extra draft, and it wouldn’t take a whole lot to drag bottom in the Suez and Panama. I’m willing to bet those who should be paying attention have been caught looking.
JonesII (09:00:16) :
Last “hot spot” on the south pacific, dwindling…the last WATTS from a cooling sea.
In your sst map you can see two interesting pecularities ,The cool spot east of NZ at coordinates 180 w 44s which is a substantive plankton bloom,and the “hot spot > centering around easter island of which some describe as the optically clearest waters on the planet,due to an absence of doc ,
eh Morel et al 2007
Optical measurements within both the visible and near ultraviolet (UV) parts of the spectrum (305–750 nm) were recently made in hyperoligotrophic waters in the South Pacific gyre (near Easter Island). The diffuse attenuation coefficients for downward irradiance, Kd(l), and the irradiance reflectances, R(l), as derived from
hyperspectral (downward and upward) irradiance measurements, exhibit very uncommon values that reflect the exceptional clarity of this huge water body. The Kd(l) values observed in the UV domain are even below the absorption coefficients found in current literature for pure water. The R(l) values (beneath the surface) exhibit a maximum as high as 13% around 390 nm. From these apparent optical properties, the absorption and backscattering coefficients can be inferred by inversion and compared to those of (optically) pure seawater. The total absorption coefficient (atot) exhibits a flat minimum (, 0.007 m21) around 410–420 nm, about twice that of pure water. At 310 nm, atot may be as low as 0.045 m21, i.e., half the value generally accepted for pure water. The particulate absorption is low compared to those of yellow substance and water and represents only ,15% of atot
in the 305–420-nm domain. The backscattering coefficient is totally dominated by that of water molecules in the UV domain. Because direct laboratory determinations of pure water absorption in the UV domain are still scarce and contradictory, we determine a tentative upper bound limit for this elusive coefficient as it results from in situ measurements.
In the introduction
: Indeed, laboratory measurements of pure water absorption, particularly
in the violet and ultraviolet (UV) part of the spectrum are scarce and contradictory. Somehow paradoxically, it seems that natural waters, in certain conditions (those of
extreme oligotrophy), may be purer than those prepared in a laboratory, despite enormous cautions to avoid trace organic impurities.
“kadaka (10:11:50) :
AdderW (09:03:51) :
The Guardian:
Climate change scepticism will increase hardship for world’s poor: IPCC chief”
Pachauri is an Indian; India has a lot of poor people. Pachauri is one of them (when we look at the average income). Climate scepticism creates hardships for Pachauri – makes it harder for him to get away with the clever steel works closures in the UK and re-opening in India. No carbon credit windfalls for Pachauri –> more hardship for India.
The logic is clear. Actually, it’s a beautifully twisted Alice-In-Wonderland logic.
You’ve got to hand it to the Met Office for demonstrating tremendous FAITH in the face of so much cold disappointment for the seasonal Winter forecast. Still holding out for a forecast of 55 percent chance of mild or warmer weather for the Winter of 2009/10 and 45 percent chance of colder weather, the Met Office faces the record temperatures in Scotland and England with a cold and steely determination. Snowed in their offices as train schedules are delayed and canceled, the hardworking staff use their work breaks in spirited discussions about the prospective trip time and maximum load weight of laden swallows launched from the roof of the Met Office and into the blustery storm towards distant France.
Meanwhile, the staff at CRU are engaged in a lighthearted scrum for dibs on Phil Jones’ office and computers….
It’s a Happy New Year, indeed.
Last “hot spot” on the south pacific, dwindling…the last WATTS from a cooling sea.
http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sst_anom.gif
[REPLY – Yikes! Look at that cooling spot spreading west off Peru! So much for El Nino! ~ Evan]
As you see, dear Evan, it is neither El nino nor la nina, both took vacations. If el nino then those cold waters along SA would be NOAA red in color, if la Nina, the Nino 3+4 region would be blue, then what is it?…
We are having the beginning of a Maunder like minimum but this time with satellites to watch it.
“No Climate Model Predicted flat or declining temps over the last decade”
Hansen Scenario ‘C’ did…of course we didn’t do half the stuff we were supposed to have to do to get to Scenario ‘C’….namely a dramatic decrease in CO2 emissions.
http://www.realclimate.org/images/Hansen06_fig2.jpg
I know I have post this already in the post talking the new records, but seems no one notice … so repost here … admin can delete this one if see fit.
Although snow is common in the Northern China, but this time it is spectacular. Maximum 8 inches of snow is recorded in Beijing in the last day or so, with Beijing hittng a temperature unseen since 1977.
Lately the Siberian Express has stationed in NE Asia, so I expect Northern China, Korea and Japan be the worst in the whole East Asia Monsoon Area. ( foreget the minimum temp in 60 years or 12 inches snow, it happens in the hill of Beijing … )
To my knowledge, El Nino have almost always bring warmer-than-normal winters to most of East Asia Monsoon Area, take Hong Kong as an example, the two exceptions since 1960 are 1982-1983 ( thanks to valcanoes eruptions ) and 1976-1977 winters. It would be really interesting to see this winter becoming such an exception.
January is usually the coldest month in East Asia Monsoon Area and I do not yet see an end to the current cold spell. However ECMWF do indicate that the cold air mass will somewhat shift westward in the second half of the month, bring some relieve to NorthEast China, Korea and Japan, at the expense of Southern China and may be Northern Vietnam, Central China will be cold anyway in both case…
I suppose Russian Far East is also in the East Asia Monsoon Area but I am not familiar with that place, so would not comment things happening there.
Glenn:
Isn’t the real question as to whether the temps fall into the range of AGW models? There will of course be variability, right?
Wrong. Despite Smokey’s valid point, everything either falls into the “range of AGW models” or it didn’t really happen. Now are you beginning to see any better what’s wrong with this aspect of AGW “science”?
Oh, the weather outside is frightful,
To the ‘skeptics’ its so delightful.
The temps are dropping low,
Let it Snow! Let it Snow! Let it Snow!
Global Temps have now been dropping,
ClimateGate controversy’s not stopping.
“Hide the Decline” formulas have to go!
Let it Snow! Let it Snow! Let it Snow!
Al Gore promised Global Warming,
But instead, its cold and storming.
Sunspot activity is way down low,
Let it Snow! Let it Snow! Let it Snow!
And the skeptics are proven right,
CO2 does not cause Earth to warm.
Global Warming protestors are all uptight,
spoiled their protest with a big snow storm.
The Solar Cycle is still slowly dying,
And to Global Warming we are good-bying.
So as long as sunspot activity stays low,
Let it Snow! Let it Snow! Let it Snow!
There’s an interesting sidelight to the extreme snow events in Beijing. Scientists have been seeding clouds over Beijing to affect drought-stricken areas further to the west, and those efforts are now being blamed for the excessive snowfall in the capital. It occurs to me that there’s a long tradition of cultural “solipsism” (for lack of a better word) in China.
Blaming the scientists seems like just another variant of AGW, in my opinion. If this was a global weather event, as analysis here of the Arctic Oscillation shift suggests, weren’t cold and snow inevitable in most temperate latitudes?
“DirkH (09:39:42) :
MiniTruth (BBC) is busy constantly rewriting the linked article.
It still contains the sentence “The mean temperature was 1.5C, the coldest average measurement since 1981″.”
Article changed again. Mentioning of the record low continues its march downward.
Other news outlets will quote this article. What newspapers often do is they print as much of the original article as fits on the allocated area on their page, snipping off the rest.
That’s why AP et.al. structure their articles always from most important to least important.
So each time fluff is added at the top it will result in less people reading the low record mentioned.
Do i see a tendency here?
I recommend taking a look at some of the resources on the Armagh Observatory’s website e.g. http://star.arm.ac.uk/preprints/445.pdf
This one contains the following quote:
“Prior to 1820 we note that autumns and winters were cooler
by ∼1 °C. Later, we note a significant warming in the mid-19th century, which started in the late 1820s and
continued till c. 1870. A cool interval at the end of the 19th century was followed by a period of rising mean
temperatures that lasted till the mid-20th century. Finally, a slight cooling from 1960 to 1980 was followed
by a gradual warming over the past two decades. In spite of the current warmer conditions, annual mean
temperatures still remain within the range seen in the previous two centuries.”
Interesting, non?
@Snowmaneasy
“It looks like the Met office has placed a call to the BBC…..
Dear Snowmaneasy
I have posted below, if the nice moderator accept my post from the true Polar Bear story,previous post.
Please can you refer to them as The Mess Office as it is now official an they also mess up the weather forecast:-)
Slightly off topic but you heard it here second.
“The UK government has decided that the Met Office should have a new name to demonstrate their role in climate science. From 31st January 2010 the service is to be renamed the Meteorological Science Service. For ease of use this will be shortened to “The MESS”. A government spokesmen said this acronym truly demonstrates the services involvement and capability in climate science and weather forecasting.”
“All commentators and bloggers are welcome to start using the acronym from now on”
End of de press release.
No Polar Bears were available to comment on this and none were harmed by the making of this statement.
Bill Parsons (10:47:28) :
Which is why the weather should not be messed with.
Yes, it was a global event, but it was made worse in Beijing by the experiments to the West of it. That is the track record of ‘climate enhancement’ programs. The weather has so much to deliver, and robbing a portion of it in one place means that the next-in-line gets less. i.e.- weather may be defeated temporarily, but climate wants to even things out. In the end, all places get what they should have gotten, whether timely or not.
Only a fool would think that borrowing from tomorrows precip. is without cost.
I wonder if Paul Hudson (TV weather man for Yorkshire UK) is a fan of wuwt. Recently he bloged the NOAA satellite snow map which wuwt used only around a week or so before. Coincidence?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/
No hits for wuwt on the BBC website, where paul’s blog is, of course…
Michael Mann wrote: ( IIRC in reference to paul hudson ? )
>> extremely disappointing to see something like this appear on
>> BBC. its particularly odd, since climate is usually Richard
>> Black’s beat at BBC (and he does a great job).
ps. forgot to say ( 1st time he’s used the NOAA satellite snow map as far as I can tell )
maksimovich (10:26:07) : Thanks!. Can’t believe it!.
“Coldest December since 1981” is still showing up in Google, but changes are afoot.. the number of the story now goes to a different title, presto change-o! “Icy conditions lead to closure of Giant’s Causeway”
Jct: A neat trick to hide the decline is getting stale.
I live in Montreal and the winter so far is pretty normal strangely enough.
Looks like Seoul, South Korea is also experiencing a harsh winter. They are having their worst snowstorm since records started being kept 70 years ago.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100104/ap_on_re_as/as_asia_storms
Bing is best.
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=%22coldest+december+since+1981%22&d=181363278800&mkt=en-GB&setlang=en-GB&w=f14c4ae9,1bd2d2d5
I also went and looked at the Armagh Observatory data and found this interesting article http://star.arm.ac.uk/preprints/2007/494.pdf which summarizes the data since 1795. Perhaps a reader can fill us in on the physical location of the observatory.
The reported data is not raw data but according to the authors has been adjusted for TOB, instrumentation and “aspect”.
This data set is very interesting because it also has a long series of 30cm and 100cm soil temperatures.
Just to echo the above, the BBC’s Paul Hudson’s blog is well worth a visit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulhudson/2010/01/a-severe-start-to-2010.shtml
-18°C is -0.4°F. Perhaps the copywriter got confused by the -32°C in the next phrase. (And that’s -25.6°F.)
BBC NEWS @ 1800 GMT
Reporter said that the weather was probably the coldest since 1995
also reported here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8439087.stm
Svempa (07:05:51) :
Well, using the Monckton Formula to calculate the IPCC temperature increase from pre-industrial times (278 ppm CO2) until now (388 ppm) I get:
delta-T = 4.7 * ln 1.4
which gives me
delta-T = 1.6 degrees Celsius.
Is there a link to this formula? It looks to me like a calculation of the forcing (w/m2) rather than temperature. The CO2 forcing since pre0industrial times is, reportedly, ~1.6 w/m2.
Is this headline not a comment specifically on the Armagh temperature record?
The website is worth a visit. It is not far from me.
It is one of the very good surface records I suspect, being remote from large urban areas, you can view some of the hand written records http://climate.arm.ac.uk/
Wasn’t Paul Hudson the guy who supposedley received the climategate files on 13th October , and the BBC sat on them?
REPLY: No that is an error, some emails sent to him about his fall 2009 Guardian article from CRU were included in the FOIA2009.zip file, Hudson’s poor choice of words when he described the file contents as being authentic (becuase some of those emails were in it) led many people to conclude erroneously that he had the whole set prior to anyone else – Anthony
A word of caution about BBC news articles: As well as being an avid consumer of newswire stories they regurgitate other people’s press releases. In both instances it is quite possible the ‘coldest december since 1981’ story was from somewhere else and another story has been combined with it.
Anyhow,
I think there is an error in the BBC article. The Armagh Observatory press release states it was on average 3 degrees C in December 2009 and 1.5 degrees C in 1981.(If I’ve read it correctly) 1981 being really, really cold, 2009 just being really cold.
I think it’s a badly worded press release being badly reported. Even so, from the link to the Armagh data earlier in the comments here 1981 had a Max of 4 and a Min of -1.1. That is a prolonged cold period whereas 2009 (a Max of 11.5 and a Min of -6.6) would appear to have been massively variable.
OT Just a heads up… DMI does have a polar temp graph for 2010; the link in the sidebar sends you to 2009 where you can click on 2010 in the Arkiv for the latest graph.
This from Desdemona Despair:
The head of the Beijing Meteorological Bureau, Guo Hu, linked the blizzard-like conditions this week to unusual atmospheric patterns caused by global warming.
”In the context of global warming, extreme atmospheric flows are causing extreme climate incidents to appear more frequently, such as the summer’s rain storms and last year’s icestorm disaster in southern China,” Mr Guo told Beijing News.
Data from Armagh.
You dont want that cooked data from MET.
You want it raw baby
http://climate.arm.ac.uk/scans/
back to 1794, unlike the MET
http://climate.arm.ac.uk/scans/1794/12/179412.jpg
http://climatechange1.wordpress.com/
Quote; “Atmospheric shifts
Trends in tropical and global temperature are dictated by change in the electromagnetic forces governing the distribution of the atmosphere. The atmosphere can shift from high to low latitudes or vice versa over any time interval. Atmospheric pressure governs the strength of polar vortex activity. Vortex activity determines the flow of nitrous oxides from the mesosphere that govern the concentration of ozone and therefore the temperature of the upper atmosphere. When the temperature of the upper atmosphere changes, so does the concentration of reflective ice crystals, so changing the porosity of the atmospheric filter that determines how much sunlight reaches the surface.”
“Change in the distribution of the atmosphere is continuous. Such a change initiated the celebrated climate shift of 1978 that was followed by thirty years of warming. But a mini-shift occurs once or twice each year, whenever the polar atmosphere warms in the middle of the polar night. Regardless of the time scale, the result is the same. The warming of the polar stratosphere initiates a period when more sunlight gets through the atmospheric medium to warm the surface of the planet.” /quote
by Erl Happ and Carl Wolk
I don’t know if this comment will be in violation of Anthony’s rumored ban of electric universe.
But Erl Happ seems to have pegged the 1978 through 2008 warm period shifting to a cold period that is now very much in evidence, and by my estimates, will be around at least several more years, just due to the Solar cycle 24’s slow start in activity.
Richard Holle
JDN (09:25:25) :
I was going through a number of old items from my parents house and found a set of newspaper clippings from the 70’s. In 1977 the Chesapeake Bay froze solid. Ships were severely hampered getting to the port of Baltimore and there was concern about heating fuels.
Here’s a quote: “A large ice mass in the upper bay, compacted by heavy winds and high tides, measured 100 feet long by 40 feet wide and 20 feet high.”
Reference here
There are times I hope that global warming doesn’t reverse itself.
Willis and Anthony will like this.
http://star.arm.ac.uk/preprints/445.pdf
i suppose we should compare this with CRU. Personally I dont have time, but knock yourselves out guys
What we have here is yet another anomalous cooling event caused by global warming as explained below:
“In a world growing ever hotter, Huancavelica is an anomaly. These communities, living at the edge of what is possible, face extinction because of increasingly cold conditions in their own microclimate, which may have been altered by the rapid melting of the glaciers.” (Guardian article entitled “Peru’s mountain people ‘face extinction because of cold conditions’…”)
We’re spitting into a hot wind and getting splattered with icicles. It’s this generation’s “new physics” spawned by the previous generation’s “new math”.
CH
Hans Verbeek (07:58:03) :
Coldest night for Scotland in 15 years
In fact, the river Ayr has been frozen for the last week and the last time it did that was back in 1964.
More CO2 please it’s Baltic here! :0)
Hey Willis, Armagh appear to do their own form of TOBS adjusticationmenthoodnessville.
Nice paper and website.. later
“Cerastes (12:15:17) :
Hans Verbeek (07:58:03) :
Coldest night for Scotland in 15 years
In fact, the river Ayr has been frozen for the last week and the last time it did that was back in 1964.
More CO2 please it’s Baltic here! :0)”
Get over the illusion that CO2 will help you the slightest bit there.
More BBC confessions
Beijing disrupted by record snowfall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8438871.stm
Coldest night since 1995 recorded
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/8439259.stm
My impression is that the headline was misleading because the “coldest December since 1981” applies only to Ireland, not the UK. Or at least the data in the story. Maybe it was the coldest December since 1981 but I don’t think the Met has announced the numbers yet.
Armagh Data
There is a related paper that links the Armagh temperature record to local tree rings (see: http://climate.arm.ac.uk/publications/tree_rings.pdf ). Again this looks interesting because of the close proximity of the trees to a long and well documented temperature record. The tree rings are apparently held by Queen’s University Belfast and were the subject of an earlier effort by Doug Keenan to gain access to the these long tree ring records.
I am not familiar with the area – perhaps the earlier commentator who lives close by can clue us in on the potential for sharp micro-climate variations – Loughs, hills, river valleys, etc.
“Pay no attention to that blizzard behind the curtain.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013042.html
It is getting “better” by the minute. Wonder if Pachauri reacts to people dying of cold in India. But he can probably blaim it on the developed world, not paying up.
BarryW (12:03:21) :
Here’s a quote: “A large ice mass in the upper bay, compacted by heavy winds and high tides, measured 100 feet long by 40 feet wide and 20 feet high.”
Nice catch. I had forgotten about that. We used to get some really nice winters for pond ice skating back then. We haven’t had thick frozen ponds or even had a good freezing rain storm for a few years. I should be so cruel as to wish for another winter of freezing rain. One winter about 10+ yr ago we had so much ice on the ground that I literally skated around the building I worked in instead of jogging.
I’ve been thinking about the fact that the AGW believers in the US live primarily along the coasts (the largest population density) and, at least on the east coast, have been getting nice warm winters for the past decade. The kids who form the bulk of the movement have no recollection otherwise. It’s kind of a fluke.
need some things clarified polar ice mass … where does it come from?
as i understan … it comes from acumulated pricipitain over the poles and to have precipitaion you need warm moist air to reach the poles with out it there would be no precipitation and no added ice mass there fore the natural calving of the glacial mass would cause it to shrink more in a colder climate than a warm one the provided ample precipitation ……
THis is where i need some in put am i totaly backwards here or is al gore?
Glenn (09:32:25) :
Come on mate. Allow us a bit of fun, we know it’s weather, just a shame that those touting AGW don’t.
DaveE.
Here in Central Pennsylvania it is very cold. Among the self-propelled small portable heating units (aka the cats), for days now only the very wildest have ventured outdoors, and then their “desire for freedom” seldom lasts more than ten minutes. This behavior started about two days before the “real” cold hit, with them not wandering too far off for too long. Currently they keep the house within their sight.
Are cats better weather predictors than the UK Met?
Let’s see, somehow there are ten cats, all adults. They consume one 3.5 lb (56 oz) bag of “Alley Cat” dry food (cheaper than the “cheap” store brands) every two days, currently priced at $1.99. Thus about a dime a cat a day.
Obviously we need more cats, they are cheaper than fuel oil for the heat provided. Eighty should be enough for this cold snap, that’s only eight bucks a day. And with that amount of litterbox output, I could experiment with “compost pile heating” as well.
Green renewable energy, here we come!
The CET for December 1995 & 1996 were colder.
It was the 7th Coldest December for 50 years.
Now January could be very interesting currently the CET is -0.78 C which is almost 5 degrees C below the 1971-2000 Average, plus the models ensembles are not showing any warm up in the medium term.
Caution is required as we are only at the beginning of the month.
“Don B (13:00:50) :
“Pay no attention to that blizzard behind the curtain.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013042.html”
Abusing the plight of dying people to spread the gospel of global warming gives a whole new meaning to the word “moral standards”.
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“Don B (13:00:50) :
“Pay no attention to that blizzard behind the curtain.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013042.html”
Abusing the plight of dying people to spread the gospel of global warming gives a whole new meaning to the word “moral standards”.
To elaborate: the linked articles say that people in the Andes are dying because their microclimate is cooling because the glaziers have melted because of global warming.
The propaganda hacks who constructed this piece of junk should be punished for this. It’s demeaning in the extreme.
I’m old enough to remember 1947.
Then there was 1963.
And Christmas/New Year 1981. I missed the New Year celebrations because I had to drive 100 miles because the agent had forgotten to turn the water off and the pipes burst and the house was flooded.
Then we come to 1996.
And now we have 2009/10
Does anyone detect any sort of a pattern here? Like 16-17-15-13? Not climate; just weather!
I can’t help but laugh by butt off about all this… it’s so pathetically sad that all I can do is nervously laugh at the tragic stupidity all around me.
How long do these alarmist/warmists think they can pull the wool over the public’s eyes… ? How long do they really believe that they can “hide the decline” before it gets so bloody obvious that that’s exactly what they’re doing ?! All the pretty little crayola graphs in the world are not going to camouflage empirical observation… at some point it’s going to become laughably obvious.
And how long is it going to take before people freezing their patooties off and having to shovel themselves out every second day, finally open their eyes and start questioning this AGW crap ?
And how long are the media going to continue to fool themselves until someone smacks them back into reality and forces them to report said reality(s) as it truly is ?
Oy… this has become worse than the blind leading the blind.
And we’re the denialists ??!!
“There is no pink elephant in the room, there is no pink elephant in the room…”
Even the Guardian has stopped blowing hot air for the moment:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/03/no-escape-britains-big-chill
Where I am, was 0°C during the day, and forecast to get to -3°C overnight.
Taking a walk yesterday, while the Thames certainly was not frozen (too fast-flowing) some of the smaller streams/tributaries/channels nearby had thin layers of ice on them (strong enough to support twigs and small branches – not a person). Ice in frozen puddles on the mud paths I was walking on was at least 1cm thick, where the sun hadn’t got to them and thawed them.
On a lighter note:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/03/leeds-university-cross-country-pub-snowed-in
DirkH (13:52:53) :
Abusing the plight of dying people to spread the gospel of global warming gives a whole new meaning to the word “moral standards”.
They foretell of all the disease, death, and destruction that will befall the world if we don’t immediately act to fight
global warmingclimate change.Yet they have long said of how horribly overpopulated the world is, with too many people period, consuming too many resources. Alongside the cries for “sustainable living,” they are now advocating “one child” for all developed countries, even worldwide, although this will clearly lead to large numbers of elderly and infirm people who will not be able to be supported by the smaller amount of younger and healthier people. Death and destruction do not seem to be a problem with them, as their goals will be achieved.
What may we surmise? That they do not object to death and destruction per se, but rather chaotic death and destruction, that which may harm people and things they care about most, like themselves and their things. Orderly death and destruction, where other people are directed to sacrifice, is much preferred.
The natural forces they say will be unleashed, are too random in their wrath, and these alarmists have no fondness for playing the lottery.
@Bernie Anderson
I dont think there are any microclimate variations.
N.Ireland is a small and mostly flat.
The tree ring paper failed to show good correlation with temperature record I think from a quick read if I’m not mistaken
No hockey stick in this record and it is as raw as you can get apart from standing there tonight
January may be colder though?
Noted. I should be more careful what I cut and paste. In any case, best of luck to folks in humid areas. At these temps the next few days could get pretty rough.
“Ok, then it’s a BBC/leftie/comie conspiracy to decieve us all!”
Your words, Peter, not mine.
If this hasn’t been mentioned above, isn’t the bbc’s “swap” in fact quite similar to what the CRU emails showed the “Team” doing in respect to “hiding” data/results and pressuring Media so that only the preferred info was released to the Public?
I see it as the same thing, or at least close enough that one has to wonder why the bbc thought it wouldn’t be seen by observers as pretty much the same thing we’ve just seen by way of the leaked CRU email and files.
What it shows, imo, is that certain propagandists actually believe that their Fantasyland, which specifically denies realilty, is reality. Or that “perception of the moment is reality” for everyone – whereas this persistent m.o. is much more the definition of complete clinical self-delusionalism on the part of the propagandists themselves, that is, well beyond the mere use of deluding propaganda tactics so as to control others or to “win”.
Without a Police State this kind of “playbook” operation can’t work, but they still keep doing it, and they will continue to do it, in spite of thereby making their own problems worse.
Fwiw, here in the U.S. the Obama Administration is doing the same thing. They think that operating within their Fantasyland bubble as derived from Political Scientists of a Marxist persuasion will have no effect in the real world and will not cause real problems for themselves and everybody else. They’ve already been proven wrong, but that’s not going to stop them anytime very soon. Just stay tuned and it’s pretty likely you’ll see it happening more in these different venues.
The Guardian have commented on the science behind the cold weather at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/04/science-behind-the-cold-weather
with the Met Office stating:
‘but it’s actually a fairly routine distribution of winter weather, the Met Office insists’.
They say some places are warmer than usual. It sounds as though they are blaming blocking anticyclones.
The BBC is trying to hide the undeniable evidence of cooling,
Global Cooling in 2009 (375 Sources)
Agreed — but it’s (all-too) human nature to do so.
In the midst of our present cold snap I found this little
piece from 2007 on the climatedenial.org web site very amusing.
It’s about the imminent collapse of the sking industry
in Europe due to AGW.
http://climatedenial.org/2007/01/24/more-snow-stupidity/
I just love the panel on the right hand side
>>This blog explores the topic of the psychology of climate change denial – >>with observations and anecdotes about our weird and disturbed response >>to the problem.
I think the sceptics should have their own counterpart to this.
>>This blog explores the topic of the psychology of climate change hysteria
>>with observations, ancedotes and analysis of embarrassing posts on >>warmist blog sites which smugly predict the destruction of mankind >>through the harmless rise in emissions of the life-giving trace gas >>Carbon Dioxide
Actually it’s probably not a bad idea to have an archive somewhere where
all these hysterical predictions can be quickly accessed.
The Guardian piece is typical of the propaganda put out by that dismal organ.
When the temperatures are unseasonably warm of course it has nothing
to do with normal weather patterns…it’s all down to mankind and his
evil intent to harry the poor cuddly polar bear to extinction. The
paper has lost all credibility for me.
Mid December 2009 I took the Argmah data from the Met Office web site : http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/stationdata/
They gave monthly Tmax and monthly Tmin figures; and for a complex function (which the temperature variation over 24 hours is) the Tavg is NOT this :
(Tmax+Tmin)/2
– eg last night we had here Tmax 0C Tmin -4.9 – but over 14 hours was below -4 and only 5 hours above -1 so the (Tmax+Tmin)/2 gives -2.45 whereas the real average (by eye as its too late to do the arithmetic) is closer to -3
So I can’t get their AVERAGE monthly temperature ( surely they wouldn’t just add the max & min together and divide by 2 – would they ? but I have a nasty sneaky feeling that is exactly what they have done – so their ‘Average’ monthly temperature is meaningless…)
Here are the results : (all in deg C)
Argmah T(minimum) series of monthly Average Temps from January 1853 to November 2009 (1883 records averaged)
Month Avg Sdev Min T
1 1.64 1.63 -3.3
2 1.68 1.64 -4.2
3 2.39 1.45 -1.0
4 3.86 1.19 0.2
5 6.28 1.04 3.8
6 9.19 0.94 6.5
7 11.01 0.95 8.8
8 10.76 1.00 7.6
9 8.92 1.15 5.6
10 6.27 1.48 2.3
11 3.42 1.40 -0.4
12 2.11 1.55 -4.2
NB the average over the WHOLE period for December is 2.11 degC
And the 10 coldest winters – also from the T min series
Argmah T(minimum) series of monthly Average Temps since 1853 (from 144 years – ie missing 11 years))
Year Month MinT
1878 12 -4.2
1874 12 -1.6
1870 12 -1.5
1879 12 -1.4
1981 12 -1.1
1950 12 -0.8
1869 12 -0.5
1976 12 -0.4
1961 12 -0.4
1960 12 -0.2
Note that these are already averaged by the Met Office – I haven’t as yet tried to find out how they worked out their averages.
SQL code :
I shoved the Met Ofice data all into an SQL data base. – just the data; I did NO manipulation of the Met office information other than making their ruddy text numeric; and removing any NULL values
Month table
SELECT TOP (100) PERCENT mm AS mmTminArg, AVG(tmin_degc) AS AvgTminArg, STDEV(tmin_degc) AS SDevTminArg,
MIN(tmin_degc) AS MinTminArg
FROM dbo.ArgmahR
GROUP BY mm
ORDER BY mm
10 coldest years : month December
SELECT TOP (10) yyyy, mm, tmin_degc
FROM dbo.ArgmahR
WHERE (mm = 12) AND (tmin_degc IS NOT NULL)
ORDER BY tmin_degc
And the 10 coldest winters – also from the T min series
should read
10 coldest DECEMBERS – doh !
and I spent ages making them tables ‘look’ nice in the edit pane – what a pain not to have wysiwyg !
Cold Wave Attributed to Global Warming
http://sify.com/news/cold-wave-attributed-to-global-warming-news-national-jegmDcafgcd.html
Sunday’s kickoff temperature, 44F, for the Tampa Bay vs Atlanta game in Tampa Florida was the 2nd coldest in the team history (since 1976). The coldest was 39F on 12/30/1989.
I live approx 10 miles from Armagh Observatory and can state that the temperature has barely risen above freezing (2-3C max) since 17 December.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but it was on Channel 10 news last night here in Australia.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/winter-wonderland-as-60-people-spend-three-days-stuck-in-a-pub-20100104-lq6x.html?autostart=1
That’s a whole heap of global warming forcing a 3 day “lock-in”.
WUWT isn’t the only site covering the record breaking cold: click
Peter Hearnden (07:31:49) :
My bad, the story is for N. Ireland – I’m wrong.
Ok, then it’s a BBC/leftie/comie conspiracy to decieve us all!
More accurately: BBC/leftist/Marxist
JDN (13:13:26) :
They’re also city/suburban folk warmed by their UHI microclimates, so for them it’s AUW (Anthropogenic Urban Warming).
Changing headlines and text of the bbc news is a policy as the email that I received in response to my complaint says:
Thanks for your e-mail. On your first point, we will look at whether the
headline and/or intro need to be changed. Another possible term might be
“stolen” as it covers both possibilities.
On your second, Richard Black is the environment correspondent for the
BBC News Website. It is not in the least bit surprising that he would be
mentioned in the e-mails. Journalists do their job by speaking to people
in the field they are covering. That does not invalidate them from ever
again covering a story that involves someone they have dealt with
before.
I haven’t yet had a response from them about my questioning their orwellian changing of the reported news….
MarkA (09:18:38) :
December 2009 was the coldest month EVER in Galway Ireland:
Until the rural stations get truncated out.
“Smokey (17:00:13) :
WUWT isn’t the only site covering the record breaking cold: click”
Nice to see Bejing being reported at that site however, reported on ABC News in Australia today many Indian cities, such as New Delhi, are experiencing record cold too. Of course there have been many deaths which the poor suffer the most.
Seems record cold/cool weather is everywhere.
Glenn (09:32:25) :
I am a little put off by the chorus of folks jumping on recent cold weather as proof that AGW science is wrong
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It hasn’t been just recent. It’s been longer. You may have picked up late in the game. Winters have been longer and colder all over the world for 3 years running.
Also refer to the ‘travesty’ cooling email in ClimateGate. Even AGW scientists are talking about it.
It hasn’t been just recent.
You can spends hours, even days, looking at previous posts in this blog to read more.
Glenn (09:32:25) :
I am a little put off by the chorus of folks jumping on recent cold weather as proof that AGW science is wrong
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This type of weather was not predicted in global warming computer models. That in and of itself does leave a mark of error on AGW science.
photon without a Higgs (17:45:22) :
Maybe “the Day After Tomorrow” freeze (not global warming catastrophe) takes a little longer than a mere 2 days
In deed, the polar regions are some of the driest locations on the Earth with respect to low precipitation amounts. From the point of view of actual precipitation, the polar regions often qualify as deserts in some areas with deposits of frozen water on the surface in some places instead of underneath the sands. The presence of substantial accumulations of snow and ice is due in part to the substantial periods of time available to accumulate and dwell despite the very low precipitation amounts. Peary Land is an example where the winds and low precipitation amounts have sometimes resulted in a landscape barren of snow and ice coverage. In these areas, the predominant sources of ice are the frozen Arctic Sea with blown snow and the flow of glaciers from farther to the south where the humidity is precipitated out of the atmosphere before reaching the surface levels of the higher polar regions.
so what should be the new hypothesis? AGW say that co2 is now the most dominant factor in the climate. This doesn’t take a time lag to justify, as if the sun’s rays hit the earth, oceans and atmosphere, then greenhouse gases should act as it happens by maintaining a different temperature than if there were no ghg’s in real time. We have a season of record coldrelated to *record* co2 levels, when it was hitherto thought that record co2 ought to lead to record warm temperatures for winter months – odd really, as c02 is more active in winter than in the summer, given that its absorbtion peaks correspond to freezing temperatures
P Wilson (18:40:11) :
photon without a Higgs (17:45:22) :
Maybe “the Day After Tomorrow” freeze (not global warming catastrophe) takes a little longer than a mere 2 days
Nah, that part happened in seconds in the movie. I saw it.
What is seen at this link was NEVER supposed to happen in a global warming world
http://mapcenter.hamweather.com/records/7day/us.html?c=maxtemp,mintemp,lowmax,highmin,snow
And more record cold is in the forecast.
I haven’t seen any prolonged record heat. Has anyone else?
That question is for the trolls—where are the trolls??
Bring them in!
Let us make sport!
😉
Ca+CO2+O=CaCO3 Calcium carbonate. The mollusks have been constructing thicker shells for themselves with the additionl CO2 absorbed by the oceans, thus depleting additional CO2 in the oceans. This has been demonstrated by direct measurement. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing indeed.
While everyone is gloating over the cold weather they might wish to check the satellite readings at 14,000 feet (AMSU-A). Those are the one’s Roy Spencer likes to plot each month. They have not looked good for the cooling case over the past six months and they are not looking good right now.
CH
P Wilson (18:40:11) :
photon without a Higgs (17:45:22) :
Maybe “the Day After Tomorrow” freeze (not global warming catastrophe) takes a little longer than a mere 2 days
Wait a second—-you really do think that movie was a scientific forecast??
Calvin Ball (08:27:19) :
Gaurdian takes the cake for absurd non-sequitur:
“These communities, living at the edge of what is possible, face extinction because of increasingly cold conditions in their own microclimate, which may have been altered by the rapid melting of the glaciers.”
Bingo.
“Your microclimate is getting colder because that 500-foot high wall of ice that used to be in your back yard isn’t there any more.”
In JonesII (09:00:16) SST map – does anyone know what the hot spot in south east greenland might be ??? ..it seems an odd place for a hot spot.
DirkH (13:52:53) :
“Don B (13:00:50) :
“Pay no attention to that blizzard behind the curtain.”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013042.html”
Abusing the plight of dying people to spread the gospel of global warming gives a whole new meaning to the word “moral standards”.
>>>
Excuse, but the AGW movement has been indoctrinating the kids for a decade. I think that is a lower form of life in my book…
photon without a Higgs (21:46:20) :
Phew no. I’m being ironic. However in the movie all was fine until global cooling came along
ShrNfr (07:17:21) :
Mods, please, I find this OTT ad hom.
Reply: The target, Prince Charles, by nature of his public status is fair game, but I agree that the language crosses the line so it is no more. ~ ctm
I watch CNBC (the business channel) quite a lot. Besides being very informative it is also very entertaining, the US staff have a light attitude and chat with each others and make jokes all the time. Today they actually discussed the fact that the IPCC computer models were way off the mark and had been unsuccessful in forecasting the global temperatures for the last 10 years or so.
They have never mentioned the climate before, to my knowledge. But then I can’t watch the channel 100% of the time. Anyway I see this as a positive sign…
I wouldn’t get too excited by warming in the stratosphere during cold weather events and jet streams such as we are seeing at present. Such warmings occur when the wind and temperature fields become disrupted enough to affect the Rossby Waves to the point where they propagate themselves into the stratosphere. Temperatures in the stratosphere can be expected to trend back to normal once the tropospheric disruptions due to blocking fronts and other causes subside and resume more normal patterns.
There ought to be trolls
Global warming climatists hedging their bets.
Swanson thinks the trend [cold weather through global warming] could continue for up to 30 years. But he warned that it’s just a hiccup, and that humans’ penchant for spewing greenhouse gases will certainly come back to haunt us.
“When the climate kicks back out of this state, we’ll have explosive warming,” Swanson said. …
msnbc.msn
Would you folks be so kind as to upvote this post on Reddit, and perhaps comment on it? It is in imminent danger of being buried.
http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/aluki/record_cold_and_snow_in_siberia_europe_asia_north/
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601101&sid=a9hxpKnSYowY
Not gloating, just watching and wondering.
Though mortality from all extreme weather events continue to decline over the decades twice as many people die from extreme cold than from harsh warm conditions (See Table 3).
(Goklany, Death and Death Rates Due to Extreme Weather Events;
Global and U.S. Trends, 1900–2006)
http://www.csccc.info/reports/report_23.pdf
So… how is the best way to prepare for these conditions so that your people don’t die?
Healthy energy industry?
Good roads?
Secure coal-fired electric plants?
Working power structures?
Transparent science / news dissemination?
Isn’t it better to prepare for these conditions?
BBC London News tonight reports ‘Coldest for 30 years’
Love the subtle change from “The coldest December since 1981” to “The longest cold spell since 1981”
MET Office is at it again, Dec is an anomaly, move on nothing to see here.
The Met Office yesterday confirmed that December was the coldest in Britain since 1995. However, despite the chilly snap, the whole of 2009 was milder than 2008 and remained the 14th warmest year in the UK since records began in 1914, it added.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1240629/At-mercy-deep-freeze-Schools-shut-firms-hit–6-inches-snow.html#ixzz0bmFf2eNe
Telegraph Headline “London colder than Antarctica”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/antarctica/4126690/London-colder-than-Antarctica.html
Says it all really. Can’t hide all this white stuff from the public, regardless of what the CRU, GISS or the BBC try to do to hide the temperature decline.
The theory of CAGW is dead, lets all enjoy the wake!
P Wilson (02:10:28) :
photon without a Higgs (21:46:20) :
Phew no. I’m being ironic.
I deduced your meaning later on.
And I agree, warm is better; the world could use a little warming right now.
With each story changed to accommodate the AGW goddities – we put another arrow into the beast. They show a clear and present desire to manipulate the public perception of what they see with their own eyes. We should note each and every instance, document them all, and when the time arrives (shortly now) to demand an accounting from media managers – their will be a trunk full of evidence.
What the dying mainstream media cannot fathom is that with each “It’s Worse Than We Thought” AGW story and headline – they supply the prosecution with incontrovertible evidence. The inquiries will ask, “Who told you to change this headline, sir?” And, “Why did you continue to misdirect the public, despite the multitude of evidence to the contrary?”
Perry Mason never had it this good.
Apparently it was Scotland that has had the coldest Dec month since 1981.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8442310.stm
“The country has already suffered its third coldest December since records began in 1914.
The average mean temperature for last month was the lowest since 1981, which had the coldest December on record. “
Coldest winter for 100 years in many countries = more heating from electricity, coal and gas worldwide = more CO2 into the atmosphere = more global warming. Have the warmists overlooked this scenario to support their rapidly disappearing credibility?
In Denmark we are having a real winter for the 1.st time in 3 decades, with frozen lakes and meters of snow. I still believe that the purpose for the “climate-warmers” is to make us pay for breathing!Like so many failed attempts to “free” us of our money , like 9/11-scare-pandemic-scare-war-scare etc. it is done with all, really desperate means and any lie will be tried;BUT if we turn it around and remember that; without us-and the animals breathing, there would be no plants, no trees – and so –NO OXYGEN. The idiots that try to monopolize the air will have to pay us for being here instead- or give up to try to become the next Rotshit ( they own 50% of all values on Earth-thats insane). The idea that ANY ONE of the 6,5 billion peoble here should own ALL the oil, all the gas,water or air is just that INSANE!!!. What is a sign of that is the fact that NO ONE, after 10 years, publically even whispers the word :CHEMTRAILS! That many billions of tonnes of poisons and metals (see LEGEND LAB.com on the contents: Barium,Aluminium,Strontium and 10 more chemicals) that has been poured onto us – for 10 years!!!What impact is THAT having on weather??? P.S.: A vehicle that is not dependent on the condition of the surface (and need no roads,run-ways,bridges or tunnels) as f.ex. snow, HAS been invented; it is called Hover-Swift -and has allready been robbed for 1 Billion Euro by the banks (owned by competing Zionist banks). But it still exists -and will in the future.
steven mosher (12:09:01)
Thanks, Mosh. Been there, done that, see this 2006 comment.
how dumb are you ppl!??
this is media senstationalizing…this is not a sign of global warming….there’s 2 factors affecting our weather right now…. the NAO ..North atlantic oscillation and a moderate El nino…soon to turn into a La Nina…..
seriously…global warming….maybe u should go kiss Al gore’s ass some more
enjoy those carbon credits coming soon…btw….if you fly in a plane…you blow your entire Credit balance for the year…….have fun with that