Climate Craziness of the Week – Why I'm a Pepsi* tea drinker now

I used to love the Coca-Cola Polar bear TV ads at Christmastime. I marveled at the quality of the CGI animations when they first came out, like this one:

They were fun and entertaining to watch, even though not reality based because papa polar bear would just as soon rip the heads off the cubs as he would to have a Coke. But there was never a hint of any political message. Just good clean fun and lightly pushing a uniquely American product I enjoyed.

But recently this started showing up on WUWT, courtesy of Google Ads:

Google Adsense ad for Coke's new pet project

You might even see it show up below this entry. Coke and Christmas always went together. To find out Coke has surrendered their famous Christmas polar bear ads to a political cause is like the day I found out Santa Claus wasn’t real.

This is where it takes you:

But it gets worse, on that page is a link to the real group behind it:

Egads! It’s the scummy WWF, purveyors of the 9/11 video ad showing airplanes hitting New York City.

Message to the Coca-Cola Company.

I don’t need your political views to quench my thirst. I now choose Pepsi* Tea, a company that has the good sense to not try hanging their hat on questionable causes or tactless eco-political organizations.

Maybe WUWT readers can enlighten the Coca-Cola company via their contact page on just how well polar bears are doing these days. See below.

A few countering reports:

Global warming leads to too many polar bears

Christian Science Monitor, May 3rd, 2007 – Despite global warming, an ongoing study says polar bear populations are rising in the country’s eastern Arctic region.

Science Daily May 10th, 2008 – Federal Polar Bear Research Critically Flawed, Forecasting Expert Asserts

National Post March 6th, 2007 – Polar bear numbers up, but rescue continues

WUWT May 9th 2009 – The “precarious state of the U.S. polar bear population”

Dr. Mitchell Taylor, a biologist with Nunavut Territorial government in Canada wrote this letter (PDF) on April 6th, 2006 to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service:

Some excerpts:

At present, the polar bear is one of the best managed of the large arctic mammals. If all the arctic nations continue to abide by the terms and intent of the Polar Bear Agreement, the future of polar bears is secure.

Polar bears are believed to have evolved from grizzly bears during the Pleistocene era some 200-250,000 years ago (Amstrup 2003). Polar bears were well developed as a separate species by the Eemian interglacial approximately 125,000 years ago. This period was characterized by temperature fluctuations caused by entirely natural events on the same order as those predicted by contemporary climate change models. Polar bears obviously adapted to the changing environment, as evidenced by their presence today. That simple fact is well known and part of the information contained in the reference material cited throughout the petition, yet it is never mentioned. This fact alone is sufficient grounds to reject the petition. Clearly polar bears can adapt to climate change. They have evolved and persisted for thousands of years in a period characterized by fluctuating climate. No rational person could review this information and conclude that climate change pre-destined polar bears to extinction.

The petition admits that there is only evidence for deleterious effects from climate change for one polar bear population (Western Hudson Bay [WH]) at the southernmost extreme of polar bear range (Fig. 1). The petition argues that the likelihood of change in other areas is reason enough to find that polar bears should be regarded as a species at risk of imminent extinction. I hope the review considers the precedent set by accepting this argument. Climate change will affect all species to some extent, including humans. If the likelihood of change is regarded as sufficient cause to designate a species or population as “threatened,” then all species around the world are “threatened.”

Some data. With hunting no longer allowed, bear populations have increased 4-5 times:

polar bear numbers

Fig. 1. Circumpolar distribution of polar bear populations. The Western Hudson Bay population (WH), for which data on negative impacts of climate change exist, is highlighted. Polar bears of WH comprise approximately 4% of the world total population polar bears.

* From comments: Turns out that Pepsi is involved in a carbon fund, looks like tea for me now.

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SSam
December 23, 2009 7:00 pm

Pepsi? Your kidding… support the Rainbow Warrior? (Jeff Gordon)
All other comments are withheld to meet with profanity rules…

Christoph
December 23, 2009 7:07 pm

I notice that your Google Adsense ads, including the graphical display ad, are BOTH pro AGW theory ads sporting polar bears.
1 (the text-based ad) is even a Coca Cola ad for the campaign you despise.
Personally, I was at the arrival of the Olympic flame ceremony in Victoria, British Columbia, Canada and I hated that coke put on a relentless 45 minute show featuring a 3 minute song essentially repeated over and over again.
“Open happiness” today when opening coke. Nothing opens happiness more than sweet liquid diabetes, tooth decay, obesity, cancer, and heart disease.

MarcH
December 23, 2009 7:10 pm

ABC posts a correction over misleading Polar Bear story. A small victory that still leaves much to be desired.
Polar bears
ABC News Online
On December 5, in an article about the melting of Hudson Bay sea ice in Canada, the ABC used the heading that climate change was “driving polar bears to cannibalism”. The story explained that the sea ice which the bears need to walk across when hunting, was not appearing until weeks later than usual. This means the bears had a shortage of food and there had been cases reported of the bears eating cubs for food. The ABC acknowledges that polar bears are not necessarily driven towards cannibalism because of climate change; this claim should have been attributed to conservationists. The heading has been changed to: “Climate change drives polar bears to cannibalism, conservationists say”.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/corrections/

Arn Riewe
December 23, 2009 7:12 pm

You may recall that Dr. Taylor, with 30 years of experience studying polar bears was shut out of the polar bear meeting in the run up to Copenhagen. His sin?… he didn’t subscribe to the preordained agenda that polar bears were endangered by AGW. Now that’s real science… shut out one of the preeminent researchers in the field because he had some inconvenient facts and research that upset the final press release.
Does any of this sound familiar?

December 23, 2009 7:13 pm

Polar Bears and Grizzlies also can and do interbreed on the rare occasions that they cross paths.

Robert M
December 23, 2009 7:14 pm

Anthony,
I love WUWT, keep up the good work. Speaking of work, with the build a bear thing and now this stupid coke thing, a simple person such as myself needs to start keeping track of businesses that will not be getting my dollar. Could you make a list for me, or point me in the direction of a list those businesses that are pushing AGW?

MostlyRight
December 23, 2009 7:15 pm

Drink water…all that other crap causes global fattening. Just don’t buy the tap water Coca Cola or Pepsi bottle and sell as something special.

E.M.Smith
Editor
December 23, 2009 7:17 pm

You might also want to let Warren Buffet of Birkshire Hathaway know. BRKA owns a LARGE chunk of KO Coke …
I avoid both Coke and Pepsi most of the time, generally drinking plain water or water transformed with Barley in many imaginative ways ;-0 but sometimes there isn’t as much choice as I’d like…
REPLY: BTW check your email sent you something today, AOL may have eaten it. – Anthony

joshua corning
December 23, 2009 7:17 pm

papa polar bear would just as soon rip the heads off the cubs as he would to have a Coke.
I am pretty sure Papa polar bear would rip off the head of the cubs and never have a coke.
Of course polar bear’s are genetically identical to grizzly bears which eat just about anything, so who knows.

December 23, 2009 7:20 pm

There is only one polar bear that I really like, the Bundy Bear!
Behold the famous “drop bear” advertisment on YouTube:
Bundy ad
The only trouble is that the pre-mix Bundy is with Coke. However, despite that, the Bundy Bear survives in tropical Queensland.

Dave F
December 23, 2009 7:21 pm

You know, juxtaposed against the Build-a-Bear comment, I have to say this:
Anthony, and readers, this is what being a minority looks like. Disregard polls that show faltering belief in AGW for a moment, and think about this. Even Shell and Exxon, OIL COMPANIES, are in on this thing. Why are you surprised that drink companies and toy companies are too?
Part of being against the grain is not being surprised by the fact that no one else sees things the way you do. It takes a real amount of courage to be against the grain, but more courage still to forgive and forget with those who don’t see things the way you do. If you fancy yourself in possession of courage, then you will understand what I mean.
Courage is a rare trait, and it requires the understanding that others do not possess courage in the levels required to prevent being steamrolled in political movements. Ponder, if you will, how a large swath of Europe could possibly go from Nazi oppression to Soviet oppression, and not die fighting for their freedom. The ones who had the courage to resist did, in fact, die, and the rest went with the flow.
What I discussed above is an example of physical courage. Physical courage is the ability to put it all on the line, body and soul. Intellectual courage is the courage to question everything you are taught. Intellectual courage is the foundation of physical courage. It is not possible to expect intellectual courage in a proportion that it seems WUWT expects, or physical courage would be a more prominent factor in our society.
Again, if you fancy yourself courageous, then fight the science that dictates the action, not the action. Put this in perspective.

December 23, 2009 7:22 pm

Coca-Cola were VERY active in sponsoring Copenhagen.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=116310
http://coordillum.blogspot.com/2009/11/coca-cola-quisling-for-new-age.html
Coca-Cola is a Quisling for a new Age.

Rob
December 23, 2009 7:24 pm

I agree that Coca-Cola has gone too far, but don’t be so quick to jump to Pepsi.
The CEO, one Indra K. Nooyi, became infamous for a speech she gave during a Columbia Business School in which she likened the US to the middle finger in the business world. She tried to clarify and when that failed offered a “sincere apology.”
A pox on both houses.

Roger
December 23, 2009 7:26 pm

Drink beer..like Smith..better make it “local” though…….100 mile diet and all that!

December 23, 2009 7:32 pm

I reviewed the Polar bear decision documents last spring. The decision was based entirely on the output of climate models. No field work was involved at all. Is there anyone here who fails to understand that there was no science involved either? Your tax dollars at work.

JDN
December 23, 2009 7:33 pm

Yeah, the idea that one of the largest land-based preditors in the world might kill its mates shouldn’t be that surprising. They may actually do it every year. They may kill each other if the ice is two weeks early. You know, eating a bear for the long journey ahead. I’m not sure if I’d get an honest answer if I asked the conservationists.
As a complete tangent to this discussion, there was just a nice piece in Smithsonian mag. on the dirty secret behind lion evolution: other lions killing them. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/The-Truth-About-Lions.html?c=y&page=6
The panda is reportedly a carnivore with gut bacteria that digests wood, according to its genome, which was just completed: http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/138478 . Cannibalism may be normal among wild animals given the right conditions. It is certainly ironic that the WWF’s panda turns out to be not only an evolutionary dead end, but a carnivore that has lost its taste for meat:- an anachronism.
Now that it’s been brought up, I’ll try to keep an eye out for how many fuzzy animals actually kill/eat their own species. It would be nice to have a list.

Michael D Smith
December 23, 2009 7:37 pm

Robert M (19:14:14) :
Steve Milloy at http://JunkScience.com has a good collection of carbon criminals, where you can follow links explaining the tactics used by various AGW rent-seekers. Nice “Wanted” posters, suitable for framing in my opinion. Once you start digging, you’ll have quite a list of companies interested in government sponsored anti-competitive behavior while fueling the effort to sink the USA. I’m following a self-imposed boycott and if enough others do the same, they might start to feel the pinch. I try to make it well known to salespeople why I’m not buying products from certain companies (GE for example). BTW, Jeff Immelt, I sure like my new Panasonic microwave.

PiperPaul
December 23, 2009 7:37 pm

What kind of animal could the Global Warming Climate Realists adopt as their own mascot?
Maybe the Abominable Snowman or Sasquatch?
All the other real, cute, furry animals are already taken.
Let’s see now…
“You know me, I’m Bigfoot. You’ve heard about me a few times, but there’s not really any evidence for my actual existence. I’d like to tell you something about Global Warming and Climate Change…”
Anyone care to take over this train of thought?

a jones
December 23, 2009 7:37 pm

Trade marks are very strange things.
I think the the Coca Cola company inherited the polar bear when in 1943 they bought the marketing and other rights of the British Fanta soft drinks company whose logo it was.
The rest is history.
Kindest Regards

dan
December 23, 2009 7:38 pm

What hypocrisy! How much pollution (C02) is released into the atmosphere each year from people popping open an ice cold Coke? For goodness sake they have to manufacture mass volumes of the stuff for their product.
Which begs the question. If you drink enough Coke over a long period of time will it raise your internal body temperature?

jorgekafkazar
December 23, 2009 7:39 pm

Awwww. Aren’t they cute?
One of the female bear’s tasks is to keep the male bear from eating her cubs.
PS: Don’t eat the liver. It’s toxic. And always cook bear meat well to prevent getting the trichinosis many of them carry.
On second thought, not so cute, after all.

ShrNfr
December 23, 2009 7:40 pm

I just buy the store brand. Its every bit as good as the other crap. About the only time I do anything but this is when they are doing a loss leader. If they want to lose money, who am I to argue? For the most part though the store brand 2 liter bottle next to the terminal (I trade stocks for a living now that I have retired) nothing but water. Better for you and a lot cheaper; Still some cheap fizz finds its way there from time to time. If Pepsi and Coke were to vanish tomorrow I doubt I would notice. However, I do get pissed off at companies I own stock in pull this kind of grotesque bullshit. All the more reason to buy the house brand.

B.C.
December 23, 2009 7:43 pm

Dangit! I guess I’ll have to see how well Captain Morgan’s® Silver Spiced Rum rum goes with Mountain Dew®. (I’ve tried drinking rum with Pepsi®, but a Cuba Libre just doesn’t taste quite right made that way.)
If Pepsi® jumps on the AGW bandwagon, I guess I’ll have to try some of the knock-off brands to see which one works best.
Anyhow, it’s been a great year in the battle against the fraudulent “science” that is AGW. Thank you Anthony, Steve M., Jeff Id and the rest of the true geniuses for your hard work to save the world from the greatest threat to individual liberty since a certain European strongman decided to try to spread his particularly virulent brand of “Democratic Socialism”. Here’s hoping that the next year is even more successful.
Merry Christmas, Tiny Tim.

RDay
December 23, 2009 7:46 pm

Everyone knows polar bears are rapidly become extinct. That’s why the UN should move the next climate meeting from Mexico to Churchill, Manitoba. It will demonstrate the devastating effects of climate change on the world’s most vulnerable species when tens of thousands of eco-fascists, politicians and warmists descend upon the town where polar bears were once as common as sparrows. Watch as the crowds freely move around Churchill with nary a care about their personal safety as the only polar bears they see will either be on posters or stuffed. Sort of like the last Dodo or Passenger Pigeon.

Doug in Seattle
December 23, 2009 7:49 pm

The Polar Bear listing is probably the most corrupt use of science to arise out of the whole AGW affair. At least the CO2=warming argument has a seed of truth in the physical properties of the gas.

Joel
December 23, 2009 7:51 pm

Sorry Anthony, but Pepsi sucks. Coke will learn along with the rest of the blinkered corporate world what we already know. What they’re doing is just marketing. If you want to boycott something important, boycott the Citgo Petroleum sold to us by the hypocrite thief Chavez.

Dave F
December 23, 2009 7:52 pm

PiperPaul (19:37:55) :
“You know me, I’m Bigfoot. You’ve heard about me a few times, but there’s not really any evidence for my actual existence. I’d like to tell you something about Global Warming and Climate Change…”
“You know, recently people caught me in a freezer, and I have to tell you, that despite everything you may think about freezers, it was actually hot in there. Speaking of hot, I have the proof for global warming in a desk drawer at my house. My address is….(static)”

December 23, 2009 7:52 pm

And, of course, the ultimate poley bear advertisment from Bundaberg Rum on YouTube, given that these scenes could have been shot at East Anglia:
Even Pommies enjoy a Bundy!
Check out many other poley bear videos if you follow the link. None will drown, and none eat their young.
The Coke connection worries me……..

Doug in Seattle
December 23, 2009 7:54 pm

RDay (19:46:48) :
” . . . the UN should move the next climate meeting from Mexico to Churchill, Manitoba. “

Indeed they should build the conference center out by the city dump too. They would look like a responsible stewards of the environment and as we all know, the bears will definitely NOT be there since they will have become extinct from global warming.

Cris
December 23, 2009 7:56 pm

I now choose Pepsi, a company that has the good sense to not try hanging their hat on questionable causes or tactless eco-political organizations.
Keep looking: Yes, We Can (Try to Hop on the Obama Marketing Bandwagon)
REPLY: ah, crap…. -A

pat
December 23, 2009 8:01 pm

Polar Bears and Cannibalism. Polar Bears are a subspecies of the Brown Bear, a viciously territorial species whose males will kill young males and eat them to reduce competition. They are easily among the most vicious mammals on earth. There is only one subspecies that is solely carnivorous, the Polar. He is also the most ill-tempered.

Roger Carr
December 23, 2009 8:07 pm

Whilst, in the 1030’s…

Images of Santa Claus were further popularized through Haddon Sundblom’s depiction of him for The Coca-Cola Company’s Christmas advertising in the 1930s. The popularity of the image spawned urban legends that Santa Claus was invented by The Coca-Cola Company or that Santa wears red and white because they are the colors used to promote the Coca-Cola brand. Historically, Coca-Cola was not the first soft drink company to utilize the modern image of Santa Claus in its advertising – White Rock Beverages used Santa to sell mineral water in 1915 and then in advertisements for its ginger ale in 1923.Further, the Coca-Cola advertising campaign had the effect of popularising the depiction of Santa as wearing red and white, in contrast to the variety of colours he wore prior to that campaign; red and white was originally given by Nast.

December 23, 2009 8:14 pm

Here is a bunch of stuff on polar bear, esp the Petition to List them as Endangered, which basically agrees the populations are stable, but the problem is all in what the models show will happen.
http://www.nofreewind.com/2009/06/polar-bear-populations-are-stable-and_08.html

December 23, 2009 8:15 pm

Here is where you can leave feedback to Coke and tell them what you think.
https://secure.thecoca-colacompany.com/ssldocs/contactus/cokefeedback/index.shtml

K2
December 23, 2009 8:16 pm

Get use to drinking water. The EPA has declared carbon dioxide a poison. Therefore Coke and Pepsi are purveyors of poison for their carbonated drinks. So when is the EPA going to shut them down?

u.k.(us)
December 23, 2009 8:16 pm

as far as polar bears go: i say keep them up north, WAY north.
nice to know they are there, keeps the seals at bay.

deadcenter
December 23, 2009 8:23 pm

I quit googling when their little ad on their homepage took me to a link of an Al gore video that started autoplaying with at least a dozen other “related” videos from other know-nothing celebutards listed in the left hand margin of the webpage. Dropped Google and will be using bing until microsoft does something equally stupid (insert operating system joke here).

JDN
December 23, 2009 8:24 pm

I’m drinking coke right now. It wouldn’t matter what kind of feedback I left, I’m just a sucker for their product. January is national hot tea month. Maybe I’ll switch.

Mapou
December 23, 2009 8:31 pm

Polar bears went from 5000 in the 1960s to 25000 in 2005? Wow. What an inconvenient truth for the Gore meister.
What’s even more surprising is that the caption cites the New York Times as one of the sources for this info. Isn’t the NYT one of the more zealous promoters of Gore’s criminal propaganda? This is a crime against humanity that calls for a Nuremberg-type trial. The mass media should not be given a free pass out of jail, in my opinion, because it is the job of journalists to seek and investigate the truth.

David S
December 23, 2009 8:31 pm

I’m going to start a new Pseudo-science blog detailing all the improbable, if not impossible, consequences of global warming. My first story will say how global warming killed off the Arctic penguins and the Antarctic polar bears as well as Bigfoot. The last surviving Bigfoot became so overheated that his body was vulcanized into a rubber gorilla suit. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26298733/

Sparkey
December 23, 2009 8:32 pm

That’s why I drink Dr Pepper. They have a cool musem in Waco Tx where they offer classes to elementary schools on business & marketing. Free market capitalism at its best.

yonason
December 23, 2009 8:33 pm

I like the Barq’s Root Beer, and Fresca, both Coke products. I will continue to drink them, whenever I can find them on sale.
As to Pepsi, I’m not so sure the frying pan is any worse than the fire.
http://www.cnsnews.com/Public/Content/article.aspx?RsrcID=41969

WakeUpMaggy
December 23, 2009 8:33 pm

I was appalled in New Zealand 2007 that their huge Auckland Christmas bash had all the participants wearing Coke tshirts. Not sure why it bothered me, except that many didn’t hesitate to express their hostility towards Christians and Americans . Dripping with green scorn, while whacked out on meth, booze and pot. (Sorry Kiwis, I don’t mean everyone)
An anecdote about Japan, their vending machines are everywhere and filled with a Coke product that is a green tea “nutrient” mixture that tastes like something siphoned from the oily Osaka harbor. I did drink one of those, it was very hot. Evidently, it takes an entire nuclear plant there just to operate all the drink vending machines.
So if I drink a beverage that burps CO2 , I choose a store brand.
No Coke No Pepsi.

Mapou
December 23, 2009 8:37 pm

nofreewind, thanks for the links.

Kate
December 23, 2009 8:42 pm

http://www.nocapandtrade.com/boycott/
Bad news. Pepsi is on the list too. I’m a tea drinker.

Geoff Sherrington
December 23, 2009 8:44 pm

How about a potential craziness of the decade? One that might wipe out man-made anything?
Back in July 09 I wrote about Near Earth Orbits of bodies in space:
“I understand that Victor Kilo 184 becomes more a worry each time new info comes in; there is now a credible probability that it will pass the earth closer than the Moon is. Its size has been better estimated when passing in front of a light object and it ain’t small.”
Recent unconfirmed reports are:
It’s about 130 m in diam in one view, but cannot be assumed spherical. It’s also dense (not ice).
Its orbit is nearly in the same solar plane as earth’s, giving a 4x possibility for impact if they cross coplanar (coming or going, left or right side).
Watch this space in the next few months.

u.k.(us)
December 23, 2009 8:52 pm

Jim Owen (19:32:46) :
I reviewed the Polar bear decision documents last spring. The decision was based entirely on the output of climate models. No field work was involved at all. Is there anyone here who fails to understand that there was no science involved either? Your tax dollars at work.
i know that you are not saying that a decision was based on models, with no field work? you must work for the government, delete this after reading! i’m just kidding, it sounds like you care.
IF SO, god help you.

Bulldust
December 23, 2009 8:53 pm

I note that Coke replaced some of their vending machines with CO2 as the refridgerant (rather than CO2).
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/23/climate-craziness-of-the-week-why-im-a-pepsi-drinker-now/
I love the comment from the MIT student, who rightly points out that CO2 is an inferior refridgerant and therefore uses more electricity than HFCs. Where’s the CO2 savings Mr Coca Cola Co…

December 23, 2009 8:54 pm

I cannot live without Pepsi since my early days; I left it for four years, when I was in a boarding school. Have you tried Pepsi with lemon juice? It’s tasty.

kuhnkat
December 23, 2009 9:00 pm

Dump both Pepsi and Coke!!
http://www.wbcsd.org/plugins/DocSearch/details.asp?type=DocDet&ObjectId=MzMzOTY
Coke with the WWF. Pepsi with Carbon Trust!!
Being large multi-nationals means they WILL get involved in the worst of International POLITICS!!

David Hyde
December 23, 2009 9:03 pm

LivePositively.com/JoinUs returns a 404. Perhaps enough people griped about it that they pulled the page?

rich1225
December 23, 2009 9:06 pm

I propose that polar bears be allowed to immigrate to Antarctica where the sea ice is expanding/

AnonyMoose
December 23, 2009 9:07 pm

ShrNfr (19:40:35) :
I just buy the store brand

Good idea, I’ll look for the store brand of polar bear meat when I’m shopping tomorrow.

J.Peden
December 23, 2009 9:08 pm

‘Can’t wait for that non-carbonated Coke. I’d like it better. Meanwhile, long live Walmart’s Dr. Thunder! I don’t seek out any of it.
ABC: The story explained that the sea ice which the bears need to walk across when hunting, was not appearing until weeks later than usual.
Why, do they need to work up an appetite? Where do the bears get to? Do they think seals remain forever at sea? Polar bears aren’t going to have any trouble on land. They’re already there and have been reported wandering through Towns such as Churchill for a long time. Almost all bears are omnivores to boot. [Only the Panda and Koala “bear” aren’t?] They can live off of ants and large numbers of small berries. In answer to the alleged plight of the Polar bears I sometimes say, “What…they’re bears for god’s sake!”, to see if anyone knows anything at all about bears.

3x2
December 23, 2009 9:09 pm

just promise me that JD have no plans involving the Fund, PB’s or indeed any eco-loon fundraiser.

R Shearer
December 23, 2009 9:11 pm

PiperPaul, the chupucabra is an ugly smelly thing worthy of being Climate Realist’s mascot.

jaymam
December 23, 2009 9:14 pm

The alleged male cannibal bear at the planetark.org link at the top appears to be the mother of the cub that was killed. There is no photographic evidence that the cub was killed by a bear, but I accept that it was likely as male bears do that often.
Here’s the evidence from the photographer:
http://blogs.reuters.com/photo/2009/12/09/close-quarters-with-a-cannibal/#comment-341628
Comments from the photographer at the link:
____________________
Before I departed, I knew what I wanted to achieve – images that would help to show the plight of the polar bear in relation to global climate change.
___________________
After the male bear had finished consuming the carcass and moved away, the female bear approached the carcass, sniffed at it, and picking it up gently within her jaws, she proceeded to carry it away – where to is unknown as I could not follow her.
___________________
With the climate change conference being held in Copenhagen, I knew the images I had taken were topical and I had minimal time to publish them for maximum impact. The images were posted to my blog and my website after which, I approached Reuters for global syndication.
___________________
Comment: Reuters adds a comment from Iain that explains that the image above of a polar bear carrying the head of the eaten cub is actually a female bear who came in to take the body away after a male polar bear had already eaten the body.
___________________
I am the photographer who took these images.
I wanted to try and document photographically how changing environmental conditions is affecting local wildlife.
It is true that polar bears can and do kill cubs, however, this activity is not frequent. Polar bear scientists have indicated that cases of infanticide are becoming more frequent as sea ice generation is delayed.
The photographs are not meant to indicate or suggest global warming (natural or human-induced) in anyway. Sea ice generation or lack of can be caused by a variety of environmental stimuli. I am not a glaciologist so can not comment on this subject.
The photographs document animal behavior and how animals are altering their behavior to climate-induced conditions. According to polar bear scientists, infanticide is increasing from past years.
It was just coincidence that I discovered the the climate change summit was being held at this time.
I trust this clears up any concerns.
___________________
from me: EXIF data held within the picture:
Image description: A male polar bear carries the head of a polar bear cub it killed and cannibalized in an area about 300 km (186 miles) north of the Canadian town of Churchill in this picture taken November 20, 2009. Climate change has turned some polar bears into cannibals as global warming melts their Arctic ice hunting grounds, reducing the polar bear population, according to a U.S.-led global scientific study on the impacts of climate change. Picture taken November 20, 2009. REUTERS/Iain D. Williams

Editor
December 23, 2009 9:21 pm

dan (19:38:33) :

What hypocrisy! How much pollution (C02) is released into the atmosphere each year from people popping open an ice cold Coke? For goodness sake they have to manufacture mass volumes of the stuff for their product.

What dilemma! In the 1960s MIT, Stanford, and CMU all discovered that computer programming “goes better with Coke.” ™ I’ll skip the stories. Brains run on sugar, and computer programming is taxing work. Brain food (not empty calories!), cooling, caffeine, and tastes good enough so you can drink a quart or so a day.
I believe the CO2 used in soft drinks comes from manufacturing Portland Cement. We produce a huge amount of the stuff, and CO2 is a by product. If it doesn’t go into soda, dry ice, fire extinguishers, etc, it’s just dumped into the atmosphere.
No need to worry about the CO2 in a can of Coke. Besides, you’ll be releasing a lot more when you metabolize all that sugar.

December 23, 2009 9:24 pm

I try to avoid coke as often as possible. Not for any reason except I think it is pretty lame stuff. I often ask store staff if they have anything, and I mean anything at all, to drink not made by Coca Cola. Often they have no idea, and those that do check, find nothing apart from milk products.
I have since found Angostura Light, Lemon Lime and Bitters. Just like you get at the pub in Oz, safe for the kids (no caffeine) and tastes great. No more coke for me of any brand!

Bulldust
December 23, 2009 9:28 pm

Better start researching the evil tea companies… here´s a list so you can get started:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tea_companies
Good thing you didn´t say hot chocolate… you really don´t want to know about the child slavery that operates in the cocoa bean industry.

Bulldust
December 23, 2009 9:31 pm

Just took the first one on the list Lipton, and oops:
https://www.just-drinks.com/article.aspx?id=91542
I guess they are a JV or Pepsico and Unilever. Oh well.. any other drinks you like?

December 23, 2009 9:33 pm

Mr Watts,
I just spotted your edit…
LOL! Anyway, tea is MUCH healthier for you than either of those two beverages 😉
For the record, I love tea, but I shall be enjoying more than advisable amounts of a nice expensive single malt Scotch whisky soon – a tradition of mine every Hogmanay (google if you’re not sure what that is).
I may need quite a few cups of tea on Ne’erday 😉

CodeTech
December 23, 2009 9:33 pm

I’ve always said it’s foolish for ANY company to make a political stand, they’re almost guaranteed to alienate 50% of their potential market.
The irony is, with almost total domination by the left of CEO positions, they STILL manage to convince most of their followers that it’s the right that are “evil rich capitalists”. Go figure.

Clive
December 23, 2009 9:34 pm

On the Coke home page:
http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/
… is an annoying counter at the bottom (not to be mistaken for WUWT hits) that counts the number of “people enjoying coke today”
1.5 billion cokes today! The hypocrisy is unbelievable. Two-faced, capitalist, eco-fascist pigs. (Can I say that here? ☺)
No more Cokes for me. (Mind you I only drink about 10 a year anyway! Just guessing it won’t hurt their bottom line. ☺)

savethesharks
December 23, 2009 9:40 pm

“I hope the review considers the precedent set by accepting this argument. Climate change will affect all species to some extent, including humans. If the likelihood of change is regarded as sufficient cause to designate a species or population as “threatened,” then all species around the world are “threatened.””
Great quote from Dr. Taylor.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

TanGeng
December 23, 2009 9:42 pm

Forget the politics of these companies. It’s no big deal. Pick your battles. Don’t fight them all.

Scarlet Pumpernickel
December 23, 2009 9:42 pm

ummm how much CO2 gas does each bottle of COKE produce, I mean COKE is a mass producer of CO2, they mix up stuff to produce this evil dangerous gas, it’s part of their product, are these ads their guilty conscience so that people don’t work out that COKE is themselves killing these beautiful fragile global warming bears lol

Snake Oil Baron
December 23, 2009 9:48 pm

Polar bears are nice enough behind glass in zoos or in the far north but they are really violent animals and like to rip Inuit kids to shreds as they walk home from school. These bears have seen their population rise for the last fifty years. How many homicidal flesh rendering monsters do we need for a healthy ecosystem? Let the Inuit kill the seals instead so we have fewer monster bears. Especially if they are going to fall out of the sky on to our buildings and cars.

Gregg E.
December 23, 2009 9:48 pm

How about Shasta or Monarch Beverages? (Monarch makes the Dad’s brand.)

savethesharks
December 23, 2009 9:49 pm

Both Pepsi and Coke have betrayed us, not only in climate-political-correctness, but also by adding that bastard evil substance HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.
Cheapskates! Yeah and neither one of them tastes as good because of it.
And HFCS is directly….DIRECTLY associated with the obesity crisis in America today.
High Fructose Corn Syrup is to nutrition…what the Mann Hockey Stick is to science: fabricated….and bad.
Oh crap I forgot what this topic was about….oh yeah….polar bears.
They are magnificent creatures….and they will survive, no doubt, based upon their merit.
Same with us.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

Robert A
December 23, 2009 9:53 pm

It has always been a close thing between these two most popular brands, especially when activities and endorsements are considered.
Coke is the longstanding Olympic sponsor and Pepsi the company that blew up Michael Jackson.
Nearly a tie, I’m told, and so it remains with this AGW support.

yonason
December 23, 2009 9:54 pm

ShrNfr (19:40:35) :
“I just buy the store brand”
A lot of the store brands are made by the big companies, so that’s often not a solution. Sorry.

December 23, 2009 9:57 pm

If theres ever a carbon criminal its the lolly water that rots your teeth, rots your gut, gives you diabetes and creates an acidic environment in your body for disease and produces copious amounts of CO2. No wonder they need to spend millions on marketing!
If we put a $1 tax per drink of lolly water we could “SAVE” the carbon crisis without having to rule the world. Just think softdrink could keep mankind “FREE”.
More here (item 3) ;
http://twawki.com/2009/12/16/sensible-solutions-that-benefit-the-public-are-being-ignored/

December 23, 2009 10:00 pm

I’ll stick to Canada Dry.

Snake Oil Baron
December 23, 2009 10:05 pm

Polar bear meat must be very well cooked – VERY well cooked. Inuit kids are “inoculated” during the weaning process (providing small amounts of meat while breast feeding) so that they will not die from trichonosis from eating polar bear meat but most else does run that risk. It can be as dangerous to eat a polar bear as to be eaten by one. It’s not common pork trichonosis either – so watch out.

Noblesse Oblige
December 23, 2009 10:13 pm

Coke has made a mistake. Polls show more Americans don’t buy that humans cause climate change. This may cost them customers. I hope it does. It cost them my business.

gerard
December 23, 2009 10:23 pm

During Copenhagen one of the speakers said Koalas are at risk due to climate change, because the nutrient levels in their favourite eucalyptus leaves was altered by warmer temperatures. This is also nonsense, on Kangaroo Island where they are an introduced species they are in plague proportions and there is talk of culling them to reduce numbers. So why do they thrive on Kangaroo Island in the era of climate change? They have a protected habitat. In the rest of Australia it is habitat destruction that is impacting on koala numbers not climate change!

J.Hansford
December 23, 2009 10:37 pm

MostlyRight (19:15:14) :
Drink water…all that other crap causes global fattening. Just don’t buy the tap water Coca Cola or Pepsi bottle and sell as something special.
—————————————————————-
Nah, Australians can’t do that. We are not allowed to build Dams anymore. Apparently it’s never going to rain here again and the fish and the frogs need the water more than we do…..
Sigh*

ZT
December 23, 2009 10:39 pm

Hmmm – there’s an opportunity here. CO2 free, soft drinks.
What else dissolves in water under pressure? NO2!
I foresee a huge market among Californian high school students.

Magnus A
December 23, 2009 10:42 pm

20 years ago, when polar bears could be polar bears…

Evan Jones
Editor
December 23, 2009 10:43 pm

Canada scrags several hundred polar bears a year. (It keeps the population in check.)
I can’t blame the Coca-Cola company — too much. What the heck do they know? They are just among the innumerable unwashed so far as this sort of knowledge is concerned.

Clive
December 23, 2009 10:46 pm

Coke has a “marketing idea” webpage. Mighty nice of them.
https://secure.thecoca-colacompany.com/ssldocs/contactus/cokesubmit/index.shtml
So I am submitting an idea. ☺
My idea is that you should not present misleading information about climate and polar bears. You say they are “at risk” because of climate change when in fact their populations are increasing.
Polar bears range between sea ice and mainland. The length of shoreline-ice interface is hardly any different now than in past decades. The bears are fine.
My marketing advice would be to drop the nonsense and misrepresentation of facts just so you can sell more Coca Cola.
You are welcome.

They wanted to know the “business value” of my idea, so I said, “Well until you stop this nonsense, I for one won’t buy any Coke products from now on. Maybe about $10 a year in lost sales.”
Send in your marketing ideas.

Gregg E.
December 23, 2009 10:48 pm

Trichinosis is caused by the larvae of the Trichinella spiralis worm. There are eight Trichinella species; five species are encapsulated and three are non-encapsulated.[1] Only three Trichinella species are known to cause Trichinosis: T. spiralis, T. nativa, and T. britovi.[1] The few cases in the United States are mostly the result of eating undercooked game, bear meat, or home-reared pigs. It is more common in developing countries where meat fed to pigs is raw or undercooked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichinosis
So cook your Polar Bear Steaks WELL DONE.
P.S. To cook a random selection of meat orders without having the rare steaks still mooing and the well done ones suitable for charcoal, start the well done ones first. Sear the outside then lower the temperature. Add the mediums then the rares and turn up the temperature. With the correct time/temperature scale process all your steaks will be finished at the same time and none will spurt blood across the table or require a chainsaw to cut.

Mapou
December 23, 2009 10:50 pm

I got used to drinking Japanese green tea during a meal and I hear that it’s very good for you.
We should all stop buying anything from any company that either promotes AGW or exploits its popularity in the media to make a buck. Coke and Pepsi suck!

December 23, 2009 11:09 pm

Never did drink coke so no need to switch to water, and as a true Scot I take my whisky straight. Happy Xmas and sceptical New Year to the wonderful team at WUWT and all you informed and engaging contributers. Anthony I’ll be flinging funds, it’s the least I can do.

Al Gore's Ghost
December 23, 2009 11:29 pm

One of the worst things you can do is to ban poaching of a predator who us used to be hunted for thousands of years. There numbers begin to rise and they then compete against each other for resources. Rising polar bear populations would be more harmful to them than keeping their numbers limited. Likewise rising whale populations threaten the existence of not only whales but also marine life.
The greens use these arguments against humanity yet humans produce what was not there before or what nature was not capable of creating in great quantity. The beasts are not capable of production, hence they become a threat to nature and themselves when their numbers grow.

Editor
December 23, 2009 11:50 pm

I would suggest in the interest of supporting our camaign to force openness in data and methods that WUWT endorse OpenCola
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_%28drink%29

Alan F
December 23, 2009 11:51 pm

Funny thing, the Inuit training at RCMP Depot in Regina say there is no reduction in any of the wildlife they have grown up around. This mean they need to move several thousand miles south for an education from the WWF on what’s been their home for a lot longer than any whites have ever been anywhere near North America? Self righteous imbeciles.

J.Peden
December 23, 2009 11:54 pm

High Fructose corn syrup is most probably as safe as table suger, sucrose, which is also simply a combination of glucose and fructose. Fructose apparently tends to be sweeter than glucose without fructose, so that starches, like those found in potatoes, which are comprised solely or mostly of glucose do not taste sweet.
Glucose is what your brain lives off of for calories, although the brain can possibly live off of other “monosacharrides”[sp.?] – one molecule sugars – also. I can’t remember if it can, or if the other monosacharrides have to be converted to glucose, or if some can’t be converted to glucose at all. Too lazy to look it up.

December 23, 2009 11:55 pm

Comments from the photographer at the link:
I wanted to try and document photographically how changing environmental conditions is affecting local wildlife.
The photographs document animal behavior and how animals are altering their behavior to climate-induced conditions. According to polar bear scientists, infanticide is increasing from past years.
Polar bears are *not* altering their behavior. “Infanticide” is increasing because there are more mature bears encountering more cubs, resulting in more opportunities for a kill.
Segue into one of the reasons Coke will always be around — police in many states in the US carry 5-gallon plastic jugs of it. *Nothing* works better than Coke when it comes to getting dried blood off the tarmac at an accident scene.

bubbles
December 23, 2009 11:58 pm

I work for Coca-Cola, so funny to read this. I’m also very much an AGW sceptic, with WUWT usually the first news site I read each day.
I’m uncomfortable with the company’s stand on AGW and polar bears. But of course the marketing and public affairs teams are good at reading the ‘mood’, but not in understanding the underlying science.
Expressing my views from within is not as easy as it may sound. Climate Change is accepted so widely as ‘fact’, that scepticsm is met with incredulity – and would damage my own credibility.
But maybe they will listen to the consumers via the links given.
In fact, I’m not much of a Coke consumer. Despite having access to as much free Coke as I could want, I have a can just once or twice a month. I much prefer water and coffee when at work, and beer and wine for pleasure.
On the other hand, the attacks on Coke I read here (obesity, health effects, etc) are as much nonsense and distortion as the idea that CO2 is a killing the world. It is a safe source of hydration and energy. Like anything, too much is not a good thing. There’s no question that the drinks (of which they are 100s of types) give a lot of pleasure to a lot of people. And the company does genuinely try to be environmentally and socially responsible. Like any company, not perfect, but certainly moving in the right direction.
Keep up the good work Anthony and friends. This is truly one of the most enlightened and entertaining websites of today.

December 24, 2009 12:27 am

>>>Awwww. Aren’t they cute?
Yes, especially when they want to play tag around your pickup truck.

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Jason
December 24, 2009 12:46 am

Ha I’ll stick to irn-bru then it outsells coke here anyway http://www.irn-bru.co.uk

Przemysław Pawełczyk
December 24, 2009 12:46 am

Watts (? the post is unsigned)
You said – “…Coke and Christmas always went together….”
Thanks God I live in Poland and I was not brainwashed to American totalitarianism – “When we say LeninCoke We mean the PartyUSA And when we say Partythe USA We mean LeninCoke”.
For us in Poland – “…Jesus and Christmas always went together…”
Regards

REPLY:
Good point, and yes unless a post is listed as a “guest post” it is by me – Anthony

December 24, 2009 1:01 am

It’s one I always ask: if global warming is threatening the Polar bears, how then did they survive the Medieval Warm Period, the six hundred year Roman warming and the 4000 year Holocene Climate Optimum. The reply is often, ‘but the population has risen because we’ve stopped hunting them’ which is really no answer at all.

KPO
December 24, 2009 2:07 am

On the “Unbearable Global Warming Hype Threatens the North Pole at Christmas” entry I posted the statement “In marketing terms the end of the world will be very big. Anyone trying to save it should remember that.” – Taken from the book This Other Eden by Ben Elton. I also invited readers to “Discuss”. So I’ll kick off with a take of my own. In marketing terms “big” is good. So in marketing terms, the end of the world is good. The second sentence provides the strategy. Trying to save it (the world) should be good – right? Wrong! This would be counter to the end being big and therefore not good – in marketing terms. Solution – the “end” must be sustained as long as possible so as to maximize the big good. A marketers utopia complete with fear, guilt, compassion and action.

C Shannon
December 24, 2009 2:07 am

You don’t have to go to tea just yet, what about RC cola? If I remember correctly RC is made by the “Dr Pepper Snapple Group”.
Based on a quick search (see link below), they don’t seem to be involved with anything silly related to climate…yet…
“Global Warming”
http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/search/global%20warming/
Returns 0 Results
“Carbon Dioxide”
http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/search/carbon%20dioxide/
Returns 1 Result, but is unrelated to AGW

Philippe
December 24, 2009 2:11 am

WWF are a bunch of hypocrites. They proposed this april a luxury world tour in private jet! The price? 64 950 $!!! The webpage is no more available, but you can download their brochure here:
http://skyfal.free.fr/uploads/WWFBinaryitem7982.pdf
And this is the type of organizations which compel us to reduce our carbon footprint!!

tallbloke
December 24, 2009 2:13 am

The ABC acknowledges that polar bears are not necessarily driven towards cannibalism because of climate change; this claim should have been attributed to conservationists.
Conservationists eat each other?
Sounds like a reasonable solution to AGW hysteria.
Thanks for a fun article Anthony and a hearty
Merry Christmas all.

Geoff Sherrington
December 24, 2009 2:13 am

Przemysław Pawełczyk (00:46:55) :
For a moment I had you mixed with Przemyslaw Prusinkiewicz, famous co-author of the mathematical book “The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants”. But then, you are famous in your own right. You must be, because you can pronounce Polish names as well as multilingual Coca Cola.

Vincent
December 24, 2009 2:42 am

I don’t know why anyone would buy that overpriced crap. I buy the Tesco own label cheap crap: Tesco 2 litre soda – about 60p; Coca Cola – about 160p.

Vincent
December 24, 2009 2:50 am

When asked why he went out on the ice, the polar bear replied “because that’s where the seals are.”
And the seals are only there because they have to cross the ice to reach the arctic ocean. Impressed as I am by the amazing behavioural adaptability of animals, I would hypothesise that if the ice ever disappeared a la Gore, all that would happen would be that the seals would become shore based. The polar bears wouldn’t have to trek across hundreds of miles of ice to find their meals. No alarmist has yet offered a convincing argument of why there isn’t enough room for both brown bears and polar bears to coexist in their present numbers, if this was to happen.

Allan M
December 24, 2009 2:57 am

I’m a fanatical tea drinker. I have 9 different teas on my shelf from India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, China, Japan, Taiwan. I drink it from a pint mug (Worcester Porcelain), without milk or sugar (that way I can taste the tea!), and that needs top quality tea (FTGFOP, etc.). Nowadays, if someone gave me a cup with milk and sugar I wouldn’t be able to drink it (unless a large sum of money were involved). Who needs this tooth-rot anyway! There must be someone in the States that imports the quality stuff, not just here in Old Blighty (although even here I have to get it direct from an importer).
bubbles (23:58:44) :
In fact, I’m not much of a Coke consumer. Despite having access to as much free Coke as I could want, I have a can just once or twice a month.
In my home town there was a chocolate factory. The company policy was to allow the production line workers to eat as many as they liked. After a few weeks in the job they didn’t want any at all (not a reflection on the quality of the chocs).

Allan M
December 24, 2009 3:07 am

Following on (02:57:11) A merry Christmas to Anthony and the mods. This year has turned out pretty darn well in the end, mostly thanks to your hard work and dedication. Here’s looking forward to next year being even better, and The Hoax finally evaporating. And 100,000,000 hits by the year end!

LB
December 24, 2009 3:17 am

Look on the brightside, by switching to tea you could possibly lose weight (if you need too) and live long enough to see hte sea levels not rise.

JamesG
December 24, 2009 3:37 am

Aren’t you being a bit harsh? They don’t know that the scientists are exaggerating because they get their science from the mainstream media. Neither is it out of green smuggery – it’s purely marketing to the young and no more false than any other marketing campaign. if it doesn’t shift the product it’ll be abandoned. Lastly, they don’t actually make money directly from supporting WWF causes and they might lose a lot – and some of it might actually go to good causes. Contrast that with the carbon traders like Government Sachs who have encouraged both this CO2 panic and the related panic of peak oil purely to benefit from a stealth Wall Street tax on everything.

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 3:49 am

JDN (19:33:31) :
Now that it’s been brought up, I’ll try to keep an eye out for how many fuzzy animals actually kill/eat their own species. It would be nice to have a list.
Practically ALL of them if you consider males during breeding season. I have seen a tennessee walker show horse stud try to kill his son and a donkey jack grab a pony gelding by the throat and choke him to death.

December 24, 2009 3:53 am

Polar bears behave like beasts because they are beasts.
It is to be hoped that humans are held to a higher standard.
Unfortunately some humans succumb to lower and more bestial impulses. Kindness gives way to cruelty, love to lowest lust, hope to despair, and generosity to greed.
The distressing thing about much Alarmism is that it tends to despair about over-population and pollution, and rather than seeking hopeful answers it slumps into mean-minded solutions involving dishonest propaganda and other perversions of Truth. As soon as it veers away from Truth it becomes bestial, and contributes to the world becoming darker.
However in the darkness there shines a bright Light, and that Light is Truth. Both Christmas and Hanukah are celebrations of Light defeating darkness, against all odds, and doom and gloom giving away to Joy.
This site is a Joy, simply because, for the most part, people seek Truth here. People seek Light rather than obfuscation. It may seem a simple thing, and not all that religious, but it defies darkness, and tells the Beast where to go.
Merry Christmas, everyone! May Light, Truth, and Joy soak and saturate your lives, reviving and refreshing, and may we all charge into the New Year like gang-busters!

Bill Junga
December 24, 2009 4:46 am

It’s hard to be in business these days, you can’t please everybody as the saying goes; and, of course, business has to deal with the usual suspects that are extremely vocal in their criticisms, easily offended and threaten to mount some kind of ‘social action’ that your product is a “bad” for some reason or other.These groups tend to be ignored by the regular guy but have the “lawmakers” at their command, unfortunately.
Here in New England, there is a beverage company based in Worcester, Massachusetts called “Polar” that does use the polar bear as a logo and mascot. They produce quality products and distribute the “uncola” 7-UP among other nation brands. But alas, they too have “partners with nature” according to their website.
Ideally, a business probably shouldn’t partner or contribute to anyone, instead selling its product at the lowest possible price and paying its employees the highest possible wage. Let the employees and customers decide individually whom they want to contribute and support.
Now for me, “Moose milk” hits the spot, being made from eggnog and applejack. Besides, the apple trees love that CO2 the cows produce. If “Moose milk is temporarily unavailable, Cherry 7-Up supplemented with 100 proof Kirschwasser is an acceptable substitute. The cherry trees love that CO2 too!
Merry Christmas Everybody !!!!
For me “Climategate” is a Christmas present.

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 4:56 am

Mapou (20:31:04) :
“…. The mass media should not be given a free pass out of jail, in my opinion, because it is the job of journalists to seek and investigate the truth.
Sorry that is a different Universe. The job of journalists is to make a buck for their paper and the papers advertisers. Truth is incidental to that goal.
Check out The Festering Fraud Behind Food Safety Reform http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2009/12/the-festering-fraud-behind-food-safety-reform/
The mass media has been hiding the HACCP regulation connection to the dramatic increase in food poisonings/deaths for over a decade despite interviews given by John Munsell and others. HACCP regs turn food safety control over to the corporations and relegates Govt agents to auditing paperwork. Cap and trade Waxman’s food safety bill specifically state HACCP is to be left intact. It imposes massive paperwork and fines on farmers instead. Similar laws in the EU have driven independents off the land so it can be scarfed up by the international corporations.
John gave a several day interview to a New York Magazine that was killed by the magazine’s owner. This is from the lawyer John contacted in his fight to try and prevent the food poisonings that finally lead to death. http://www.marlerblog.com/2009/07/articles/lawyer-oped/one-e-coli-o157h7-outbreak-i-think-i-could-have-prevented/
I bring this up because food poisoning is a hot button for every one and Cap and Trade Waxman is KNOWINGLY aiding and abetting the poisoning of Americans. There were two Congressional investigations where this came out. John Munsell personally testified to the problems with HACCP. Stan Painter Union leader of the food inspection agents backed him up in his testimony. “There seems to be too much reliance on an honor system for the industry to police itself. While the USDA investigation is still on going at Hallmark/Westland, a couple of facts have emerged that point to a system that can be gamed by those who want to break the law.” Painter also stated he receive reports from union member that SRM (mad cow) regulations are not uniformly enforced. and a Freedom of Information Act request by his Union turned up Over 1000 non-compliance reports.
Coca Cola is not free from the food poisoning taint: from India
“The complainant, Raj Mohan Atrey, an East Delhi-based doctor, complained that he started vomiting as soon as he had few sips of Coca Cola that he bought from one Prince Pan Corner in West Jyoti Nagar on April 21 last year. He claimed that he saw fungus floating in the bottle. He was admitted to Maha Laxmi hospital in Shahadra with acute gastroenteritis and food poisoning. He stayed in hospital for six days…. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Coke-fined-Rs-1-lakh-for-fungus-in-soft-drink-bottle/articleshow/5137020.cms

Editor
December 24, 2009 5:11 am

J.Peden (23:54:20) :
High Fructose corn syrup is most probably as safe as table suger, sucrose, which is also simply a combination of glucose and fructose. Fructose apparently tends to be sweeter than glucose without fructose, so that starches, like those found in potatoes, which are comprised solely or mostly of glucose do not taste sweet.
Glucose is what your brain lives off of for calories, although the brain can possibly live off of other “monosacharrides”[sp.?] – one molecule sugars – also. I can’t remember if it can, or if the other monosacharrides have to be converted to glucose, or if some can’t be converted to glucose at all. Too lazy to look it up.

Sean Peake
December 24, 2009 5:20 am

No kidding Papa would rip the heads off the kids. I watched a male bear stalking mom and her two cubs in northern Labrador. He was hiding along the seashore until we flushed him out. Mom, who was upwind knew he was there and was lying low herself. As soon as the male climbed the bank and headed off inland, Mom and cubs hit the water and swam well downwind of him before making shore. Needless to say he was pissed that we discovered him. He was huge, too, with a backside that was about five feet wide. While all this was going on a pilot whale surfaced between our canoes! Just to be safe and prevent any unexpected guests during the night we crossed to the other side of the fjord (3 miles)

Editor
December 24, 2009 5:32 am

Oh dear, I was going to suggest that New Englanders can always drink Moxie. (I only recently tried some as I became a Coke-addicted computer geek before moving here.) Unfortunately, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie says “Moxie is currently owned by Cornucopia Beverages Inc. of Bedford, New Hampshire, which is owned by Coca-Cola Bottling Co. of Northern New England Incorporated, a subsidiary of Tokyo-based Kirin Brewery Co. Ltd.” A second reading says Moxie is Japanese! How many New Englanders know that?
Sadly, Moxie has made the switch to high fructose corn syrup.
To me, Moxie tastes like a combination of root beer and ginger ale, full flavored for each. Maybe Kirin just wanted to expand to non-alcoholic beer? 🙂

Wade
December 24, 2009 5:34 am

It is Dr. Pepper for me! I’m a pepper, you’re a pepper, wouldn’t you like to be a pepper too? And since Dr. Pepper is currently owned by Cadbury Chocolate, I’m safe.
Of course, my favorite liquid concoction is sweet tea. Being born and raised in the southern US, sweet tea is a fact of life. I don’t have juice or milk for breakfast, I have sweet tea. I used to drink 4 cans of Dr. Pepper a day. I switched to sweet tea and lost 15 pounds. I’ll still have a Dr. Pepper, but I get my caffeine from tea now.
My only wish is if the US would ban high fructose corn syrup. Sugar has got to be better than that junk. A coke with real sugar in it, as you get at some Sam’s Club (Hencho en Mexico), tastes so much better. But, like AGW, politicians meddling has made things stupid.

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 5:49 am

Allan M (02:57:11) :
I’m a fanatical tea drinker. I have 9 different teas on my shelf …. There must be someone in the States that imports the quality stuff, ….”
What brands do you recommend? I have Stash and Twinings in the cupboard (USA) but they keep changing stuff in the store, so I am always on the lookout for good tea brands.

Paul Hildebrandt
December 24, 2009 6:09 am

As a former Coke drinker, I have recently switched to AriZona teas. They are produced by beer and malt maker, Ferolito, Vultaggio & Sons of Brooklyn, NY. Privately owned.

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 6:22 am

Przemysław Pawełczyk (00:46:55) :
“…Thanks God I live in Poland and I was not brainwashed to American totalitarianism – “When we say LeninCoke We mean the PartyUSA And when we say Partythe USA We mean LeninCoke”.
For us in Poland – “…Jesus and Christmas always went together…”

Yes this song captures the spirit of the American Christmas as compared to that of other countries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZR3lJobjw
Merry Christmas

Kate
December 24, 2009 6:27 am

Bulldust (21:28:11) :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tea_companies
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Another believer quoting from his bible.
http://climateaudit.org/2009/12/19/climategatekeeping-wikipedia/
Good job!

Old Gasser
December 24, 2009 6:28 am

Kate’s SDA blog takes a practical view. Her opinion:
“I get the sense that, for as important as it is to yell at elected representatives who endorse policies that damage our interests, it’s the negative feedback directed towards AGW promoting corporations that may produce the most results per complaint over the long run.
“Unlike their counterparts in mass media, most sensible retailers understand that the consumer can, and will, reject a product tainted by political agenda. A few angry letters can alert an executive that the global warming “consensus” ain’t what she used to be.”
Good enough for this uncredentialed floor buffer.

kwik
December 24, 2009 6:28 am

Maybe the solution is that the Government can subsidice Cola and Pepsi to produce for storage only? Forbidden to drink?
I mean after all, it will require less power-consumption to compress CO2 into all those bottles, than to compress it far down into the gound, which the Norwegian Government wants.
So ….AGW=>CO2 forbidden=>Coke and Pepsi forbidden=> Coke and Pepsi bankrupt……
Its a travesty….

DirkH
December 24, 2009 6:39 am

“Przemysław Pawełczyk (00:46:55) :
[…]
Thanks God I live in Poland and I was not brainwashed to American totalitarianism – “When we say LeninCoke We mean the PartyUSA And when we say Partythe USA We mean LeninCoke”.”
Well Coke conquered Western Europe – they supplied the GI’s during the invasion so they were allowed to build their plants there.
Pepsi took revenge by conquering the SU and the rest of the Warsaw pact (there’s a famous film of Chrushtshov holding a Pepsi). To this day Warsaw
is dominated by Pepsi.
So yes, when we say Lenin, we probably mean Pepsi, right ? 😉

JimB
December 24, 2009 6:44 am

Clive (22:46:52) :
That’s the same approach I took…posting a “marketing idea”…and it’s almost verbatum what you posted, including the benefit analysis.
JimB in USA

December 24, 2009 6:51 am

Scroogle.com
If you want to effect change, stop lending your eyes to their ads.

Mr Lynn
December 24, 2009 6:56 am

Wade (05:34:17)
I’m a Pepper, too! Though at dinnertime I switch to Harpoon IPA.
/Mr Lynn

tom t
December 24, 2009 7:01 am

Something has to be done about these Google ads. Google makes no distinction between sites that promote something and sites that oppose it. It is like selling PLO head scarfs on the Anti-Decimation League’s website.
Pepsi is no better they changed there logo to look more like Obama’s

a reader
December 24, 2009 7:12 am

For a great “polar bear stranded on little ice flow” picture, check out National Geographic mag. August 1922 page 210–priceless. It’s in “The Arctic as an Air Route of the Furture” article.
National Geographic was also the home of many iconic Coke ads on the back cover.

DaveE
December 24, 2009 7:33 am

Coca Cola is owned by Schweppes, (not the other way round), so that’s another lot to disregard.
DaveE.

rw
December 24, 2009 7:42 am

If polar bear numbers have been stable for 20-odd years, this suggests that in the 80s the population reached its carrying capacity, i.e. the maximum number or density (I forget which) that the environment can support. So much for being endangered.

Jimbo
December 24, 2009 7:42 am

Vincent:
“I would hypothesise that if the ice ever disappeared a la Gore, all that would happen would be that the seals would become shore based.”
I maybe wrong but if we go back in time have their not been periods of extreme Arctic ice melt? The polar bears and seals are still here. I agree that animal behaviour would just adapt and I suspect the bears will be here long after we’re all gone!!!
Merry Christmas :o)

Anand Rajan KD
December 24, 2009 7:54 am

Van Grungy
I think you meant to say Scroogle.org.
Scroogle.com might raise temperatures a bit and we dont want to be doing that, do we? 🙂 🙂

December 24, 2009 7:58 am

Let’s face it. Consumers are for the most part idiots. If they weren’t they wouldn’t have been suckered by this whole global warming sham to begin with. I don’t fault companies for giving their customers what they want. In fact if I could figure out a way to do it, I would gladly profit from their ignorance as well.

Steven Hill
December 24, 2009 8:00 am

Let me see, if you die too early it’s AGW. If you live too long, it’s AGW.
Yup, can’t miss with those rules.
Roller Ball!
Merry Christmas to all, Jesus is the reason for the season.

Peter
December 24, 2009 8:10 am

Pretty smart stuff, this “Ads by Google”.
A page bashing Coke? Well, here’s your Pepsi-add 🙂
======================
Ads by Google
Pepsi Personal Timetable
Pepsi Personal Timetable tool voor alle dance events op je mobiel!
Music.Pepsi.nl
======================

tom t
December 24, 2009 8:32 am

Anthony you have to be careful what iced teas you drink, some are distributed under authority of The Cocoa Cola Bottling Company or Pepsi Cola Bottling Company. I would suggest just bottled water in very small bottles just to upset the AGW alarmists. Even then, some are bottled by Coke or Pepsi.
REPLY: Yep well, maybe I’ll just go for well water. 😉

December 24, 2009 8:43 am

My letter to Coke:
“Shame on you! Your fatuous use of Polar Bears in shameful propaganda in support of the “global warming” scam is reprehensible.
Polar Bear populations are up and stable. They are not in danger. The Globe is cooling and has been since 1998. The “science” of anthropogenic global warming has been debunked or called into question.
Yet you lend your corporate imprimatur to support the political cause. Fine. I consume nearly 50 cases of soft drinks per year. It won’t be Coke in the future. “

John R. Walker
December 24, 2009 8:43 am

No sympathy – I block Google ads (and every other ad server I come across…) on my firewall so I don’t have to suffer their endless garbage…

Martin Brumby
December 24, 2009 8:54 am

Polar bears have other problems:-

(Can’t believe no one else has already posted this!)
Happy Xmas to all on WUWT
(even the occasional troll)

george c
December 24, 2009 8:59 am

Has any one thought that the male polar bears are killing off the cubs so the females will be able to breed sooner?

Mike Abbott
December 24, 2009 8:59 am

You say polar bear hunting is no longer allowed? You had better tell the folks at http://www.polarbearhunting.net/.

starzmom
December 24, 2009 9:00 am

JDN–
There is genetic evidence of cannibalism in human populations, too, in the form of genetic immunity from Creutzfeld-Jacobs Disease (a cousin to mad cow disease). Just to throw that thought out.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!! With the gift of Climategate that we have been given, I am hopeful it will be a wonderful and entertaining year.

george c
December 24, 2009 9:00 am

Sorry forgot to say male lions do this .

Brian Macker
December 24, 2009 9:05 am

Wait a second! Isn’t CO2 one of the main ingredients of Coke?
I suggest that WWF start a campaign to push non-carbonated beverages, and boycott the coca-cola company. No wait, it appears WWF is in the pocket of big business.

JEM
December 24, 2009 9:27 am

Yeah, isn’t it hysterical to find companies that exist for no other purpose than to force CO2 into sugared water flogging the CO2-as-climate-change issue.

Mike Abbott
December 24, 2009 9:34 am

Some facts and figures about polar bear hunting are in this article at http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/the-bloody-business-of-the-trophy-hunters-401833.html. From that article:
“Experts estimate that around 1,000 of the world’s 22,000-25,000 remaining polar bears are killed each year.”
And that does not count orphaned cubs that subsequently die. That was in 2007. I may be wrong, but I don’t think anything has changed.

GP
December 24, 2009 9:39 am

Be careful about you selection of teas.
Tata is in the tea business, along with everything else.

confused
December 24, 2009 9:54 am

Jason (00:46:25) :
Ha I’ll stick to irn-bru then it outsells coke here anyway http://www.irn-bru.co.uk
Spot on Jason
But for a real Christmas Advert, you canny beat it

No polar bears just a Snowman!!
Merry Christmas everyone and a Good New Year to you all.
Merry Christmas.

Frank Kotler
December 24, 2009 10:06 am

Save the seals! Melt a bear!
Ever wonder why Santa has bells on his sleigh? It’s to avoid startling the Polar Bears!
A friend sent me a photo of this sign from Fort Steele Campground in B.C. It refers to Grizzly Bears, but I believe the advice would apply to Polar Bears as well. Tell the Catlin team!
————————
WARNING!
Due to the frequency of human-bear encounters, the B.C. Fish and Wildlife Branch is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, and any persons who use the out of doors in a recreational or work-related function to take extra precautions while in the field.
We advise the outdoorsman to wear noisy little bells on clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears who might be close by so you don’t take them by surprise.
We also advise anyone using the out-of-doors to carry “Pepper Spray” with him in case of an encounter with a bear.
Outdoorsmen should also be on the watch for fresh bear activity, and be able to tell the difference between black bear feces and grizzly bear feces. Black bear feces is smaller and contains lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear feces has bells in it and smells like pepper.
———————————-
Thanks, Anthony! And a Merry Christmas and Skeptical New Year to all!
Best,
Frank

Henry chance
December 24, 2009 11:16 am

We drink more coke. The kids are all Pepsi and YUM shareholders. It is how I taught them investing. I bored them by even discussing terms like Income and dividends with them.
On the other hand. I understand polar bear hunting permits allow for nearly 1,000 killings a year. Canada will not let polar bears be kiilled when they become endagered.
If darwinism is also true, they will addapt and become bullet proof. Or they could adapt and switch to brown and hit the warm water.
I am not worried about human adaption. Consider how many Texans built the pipeline and drill on the North slope.

yonason
December 24, 2009 11:42 am

Frank Kotler (10:06:46) :
“A friend sent me a photo of this sign from Fort Steele Campground in B.C. It refers to Grizzly Bears, but I believe the advice would apply to Polar Bears as well.
. . . .
We advise the outdoorsman to wear noisy little bells on clothing so as to give advance warning to any bears who might be close by…”

If there’s a polar bear near you, it KNOWS where you are. And if by some good fortune it doesn’t, then alerting it to your location is the LAST thing you want to do, because it may be the last thing you ever do.
Polar bear hotline in Churchill, manned 24/7. Don’t go out without it.

December 24, 2009 12:17 pm

I don’t do Coke or Pepsi. I’m a beer man. (And single malts on the odd occasion…)

Frank Kotler
December 24, 2009 12:24 pm

Yonason (11:42:48)
Okay, cancel the bells. I don’t suppose the pepper spray is much help, either. T’was supposed to be a joke…
Great links. Thanks!
Best,
Frank

J.Peden
December 24, 2009 12:42 pm

It sure is a msytery as to how the poor Polar Bears survive an Arctic Summer, what with all that decreased ice! The Greenies suppose they wander around on land fasting. But I know the real truth: they simply hibernate in Summer! Give me some money and I’ll even “prove” it [they must have to sleep sometime].
Once I convinced a guy on line at the Washington Post that poor school children were not starving to begin with, because they survived quite well in the Summer when there were no “school lunch” programs*. About two years later the gov’t started Summer lunch programs.
* I also had two close relatives that worked to make and deliver “school lunches” – which also supplied breakfasts. They knew that all kinds of people were getting the food who didn’t really qualify. Another problem, one nurse I worked with refused to go along the “program” even though she and her husband “qualified”. She made her children’s lunches herself. Then the parents started getting criticized for denying the School gov’t money.

Mann O Mann
December 24, 2009 12:49 pm

Aren’t sodas carbonated?
You know – CO2. Are those needless bubbles in a beverage worth the lives of – gasp – polar bears?

Allan M
December 24, 2009 12:54 pm

Gail Combs (05:49:00) :
Allan M (02:57:11) :
I’m a fanatical tea drinker. I have 9 different teas on my shelf …. There must be someone in the States that imports the quality stuff, ….”
What brands do you recommend? I have Stash and Twinings in the cupboard (USA) but they keep changing stuff in the store, so I am always on the lookout for good tea brands.

I get my tea straight from the importer ‘Accord Fine Teas’ here in UK. I don’t know what is available in the USA, but what I get is not obtainable via Twynings or Whittards or even posh supermarkets. Sorry. Perhaps you could try for small companies around where there are rich Brits (unlike me) lurking, New York or Washington, maybe.
I have:
Assam Special FTGFOP
Darjeeling FTGFOP
Nepal FTGFOP
Ceylon Silver Tip
Oolong Formosa
Gunpowder
Sencha Fukuyu (don’t blame me, it’s Japanese)
Jasmine Chung Hao
Rose Congou
FTGFOP = Finest Tippy Golden Flowery Orange Pekoe (top grade)
But these are not brands. The tea articles on Wackypodium may not be political!

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 1:08 pm

Old Gasser (06:28:02) :
“…“Unlike their counterparts in mass media, most sensible retailers understand that the consumer can, and will, reject a product tainted by political agenda. A few angry letters can alert an executive that the global warming “consensus” ain’t what she used to be.”
Good enough for this uncredentialed floor buffer.”

I worked as a Quality Engineer for a Personal Care Product Company. We figured one letter of complaint represented a 100 upset customers who voted with their feet instead of bothering to write. So complaint letters were taken very seriously.

Steve in SC
December 24, 2009 1:27 pm

I WANT A POLAR BEAR RUG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 1:33 pm

Ever wonder why Santa has bells on his sleigh? It’s to avoid startling the Polar Bears!
Actually bells are safety devices. A horse drawn sleigh is very close to silent. Add drifts and you get an accident with out the bells. (Wear earplugs those blasted sleigh bells are LOUD.) For the idiots who want to go back to prior to automobiles, I suggest some hours long open carriage/sleigh rides in rain/sleet/ice and snow behind some fast trotters. Standardbreds can easily travel at 15 to 20 MPH for long periods of time and I have frozen my butt and hands off in mild weather thanks to the windchill factor. The Amish are a hardy breed to travel as they do.

kate65
December 24, 2009 1:38 pm

[PLEASE STOP CARPET BOMBING WUWT WITH REQUESTS THAT PEOPLE VISIT A WEBSITE AND LEAVE COMMENTS – THIS MAKES THE 7TH COMMENT ON VARIOUS THREADS YOU’VE LEFT, ALL HAVE BEEN DELETED BUT FOR ONE- ALL FURTHER COMMENTS OF THIS TYPE WILL BE DELETED – Anthony]

Gail Combs
December 24, 2009 1:48 pm

Allan M
I am stuck in the wild hinterlands of North Carolina. If an upscale market doesn’t carry it I am stuck ordering via the internet. Thank goodness for the internet.
I also have tried and like
Darjeeling
Ceylon
Oolong Formosa
Gunpowder
For those who are considering a switch. A year ago I cut out most salt, sugar and starch because of weight gain and High blood pressure. I dropped my blood pressure from 176/143 to 115/66 with no meds. It was a sudden drop half way by reducing salt and gradual the rest of the way from reducing the carbs. So yea getting off the soda has benefits besides in the pocketbook especially for us old foggies.

Glenn
December 24, 2009 1:49 pm

tom t (08:32:41) :
Anthony you have to be careful what iced teas you drink, some are distributed under authority of The Cocoa Cola Bottling Company or Pepsi Cola Bottling Company. I would suggest just bottled water in very small bottles just to upset the AGW alarmists. Even then, some are bottled by Coke or Pepsi.
“REPLY: Yep well, maybe I’ll just go for well water. ;-)”
Which is owned by the State of California, a major GW activist player.

NickB.
December 24, 2009 1:51 pm

This morning I saw a commercial from Samsung and a James Balog from the “Extreme Ice Survey” that ended with the comments:
“No Ice
No Winter”
Makes me glad I bought a Sony for the family this year 🙂

Gareth
December 24, 2009 1:55 pm

Until Coke and Pepsi replace carbon dioxide in their drinks with some other gas their environmental credientials are nothing more than a marketing exercise.

NickB.
December 24, 2009 2:07 pm

BTW, as far as I can tell Dr. Pepper (my personal favorite anyway), which is owned by Cadbury Schweppes, appears to be AGW neutral from an advocacy standpoint although committed to improving its environmental impact – which I don’t have a problem with
So Mr. Watts, grab yourself a nice cold Dr. Pepper… safe (for now at least) knowing it’s not funding propaganda aimed at our kids 🙂
oh… and Merry-Christmas/Happy-Hanukkah/Jolly-Kwanza/Epic-Festivus/whatever-it-is-you’re-into!

Geoff Sherrington
December 24, 2009 2:12 pm

Tea was also a safety device. before it came to Europe, rivers like the Thames were so polluted that drinkg water had a high probability of death. Instead, people added alcohol, even for small children. I once read a paper that described the usual daily condition of the populace of Europe as “inebriated”.
With tea in the 1700s, the boiling of water before drinking killed many nasties. Tea was able to displace alcohol as a bug free drink and we can trace the present high world population to a lack of deaths of breeding age people, caused by both alcohol and the boiling of water for tea. Of course, beer has CO2 bubbles in it.
Few people have ever seen the really top quality tea because the number of leaves needed to make it are sparse on the bush and it takes a special care in later treatment. It does not store for long. The Chinese green tea leaf is merely heated lightly, while the black tea leaf is heated a lot more, so that some critical chemicals change position and end up as minute crystalline crust on the outside of the tea pieces. That is why green tea is often used all day long in China, just by adding warm water to top up from time to time. Black tea donates its essentials in a few minutes. The green tea leaf is generally rather longer, say an inch or so unless broken.
This true geen tea has a varied history outside China too. Most tea has some adulteration. There was once a British craze for green tea and the wily Chinese took black tea and added potassium ferrocyanide, which gave it a green tint. These days all sorts of aromatics and flavours are added so the consumer does not really know what’s in the brew.
There are traditionally two plants, very closely related, for making tea, these being Camellia sinensis and Camellia assamica. (There are other types, like Linden tea, but we are not discussing those). If you make a pure, high quality green tea from one of each species in the simple, proper, unadulterated way, it takes an expert to pick the difference. The suburban expert would usually have not a clue.
The consumer of today who lusts for Russian Caravan or English Breakfast is on the receiving end of a marketing campaign every bit as sophisticated as Coca-Cola. As we say in Oz, “come in spinner”.

Allan M
December 24, 2009 2:12 pm

Gail Combs (13:33:13) :
Ever wonder why Santa has bells on his sleigh? It’s to avoid startling the Polar Bears!
In the UK it used to be illegal to ride a pedal cycle without a bell. Your ordinary policeman could award a No Bell Prize. (Sorry again. But this close to Christmas they don’t come any better. Have a merry one.)

DesertYote
December 24, 2009 2:20 pm

Every time I read about the declining SH and WH Polar Bear populations I want to scream. Both those populations have been documented as being artificially high due to garbage from communities in those regions. Those communities have, for the last decade, been much more careful with their trash in order to solve the “Polar Bear nuisance”( a documented nuisance at that!) Why does everyone forget this stuff? The inability to remember yesterdays news is downright Orwellian and it scares me.

Przemysław Pawełczyk
December 24, 2009 3:07 pm

DirkH (06:39:43) :
Quote – “So yes, when we say Lenin, we probably mean Pepsi, right ? ;-)”
Right. 😉
When I told my wife about my comment and spoke out the last sentence
“…Jesus and Christmas always goes together…” she sensibly added “yet”.
“For The Times They Are A-Changin’….”
Gail Combs (06:22:44) :
Many thanks and Merry Christmas!
Regards

December 24, 2009 3:42 pm

Excellent review of the polar bear nonsense (non science).
Thank you, Anthony, again, for all you have done to advance the truth.
Merry Christmas.

NickB.
December 24, 2009 3:44 pm

Dave F (19:21:57) :
For some reason when I was reading your comment “the speech” from Team America World Police (moderators feel free to snip this link due to language, if not… fair warning on language: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pAaT4unZc). Now… the *ONLY* reason I mention this is that I get *REALLY* pissed off when people try to force propaganda on kids, and I consider it to be a real A-Hole thing to do.
Ex: http://www.consumerfreedom.com/downloads/reference/docs/040726_mommykills.pdf
Ex: http://www.fishinghurts.com/pdfs/daddykillsanimals.pdf
Ex: After I took 8 kids to go see Happy Feet my daughter told me she didn’t want to eat fish anymore because it makes the penguins starve
Ex: When I was in 4th grade I thought we were all going to die because of the amazing blown out of proportion scare around the hole in the ozone layer that I heard about in school – and yes, I’m still pissed off about that one 😉
I know it doesn’t make a crap in the grand scheme of things, but I like to do little things to flip the bird at “the man” like buying a ticket to a family film if the wife just can’t live without dragging me to the theatre to go see the latest DiCaprio/Brosnan/insert-random-ahole-celeb-here film, or torrent instead of buying music of jerk artists/bands. I make it a point to try and not give my money to a-holes…
Too bad there’s not a choice when it comes to the government amirite ( 😉 ? Ba-duh-dum

yonason
December 24, 2009 3:49 pm

Frank Kotler (12:24:26) :
“Yonason (11:42:48)
Okay, cancel the bells. I don’t suppose the pepper spray is much help, either.

Might as well make him earn his dinner.
“T’was supposed to be a joke…”
Wanna REALLY have some fun?
http://www.iceagenow.com/Penguin%20and%20Cymbals.jpg
Regards

December 24, 2009 4:00 pm

The hypocrisy is absolutely amazing! Coca-Cola is a company that expels probably millions (perhaps billions?) of tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year producing fizzy brown sugar water that does absolutely nothing but make people fat. Yet, as a huge multinational conglomerate, they naturally feel entitled to lecture us about the threat to polar bears supposedly caused by the very gas that Coca Cola expels into the atmosphere in enormous quantities.
I’d like to take them up on the challenge, and let’s make the “save the world” campaign more substantial than simply wearing tee shirts that say “save the world”. How about if we start reducing deadly CO2 emissions by eliminating our intake of fizzy brown sugar water immediately? That would certainly have an enormous impact wouldn’t it? Consider all of the liters of Coke that are sold worldwide each year. What is it, billions of liters? Tens of billions? How many thousands of tons of high-fructose corn syrup go into making those billions of gallons of fizzy brown sugar water? How many acres of corn are planted to produce all that corn syrup? How much fertilizer is produced to fertilize all those acres and what’s the carbon footprint of all that? How many fertilizer company employees drive to work every day to make all that stuff? How many CO2-belching tractors till and harvest those fields? How many fossil fuel-burning trucks carry the fertilizer to the fields, the corn to the processing plant, the corn syrup to the bottling plant, and the bottled product to the market? How much CO2 is spewed into the atmosphere producing the bottles, the labels, and the dye that colors the labels? Think about it — when it’s all said and done, how much CO2 goes into the atmosphere each year so that people can gulp down fattening fizzy brown sugar water? If had a title like “global warming czar”, wouldn’t you make the abolition of such a useless, atmosphere-polluting substance your top priority?

1DandyTroll
December 24, 2009 4:54 pm

Of course every one, especially political aware people, blame CO2 for the bad situation of the polar-hudson-bears, I mean they can’t really blame the fishing companies now, can they.
And the only time when there’s an indication of when food is scarce for polar bears, and a lot of other omnivores, and polar bears are just that omnivores, is when the mother is starting to eat her own cubs. That the presumptive dad kills the cubs is only because he don’t know it’s his cubs, he’s just thinking with his little head and a female with cubs isn’t exactly playing along “his” need.

Glenn
December 24, 2009 5:27 pm

yonason (11:42:48) :
“If there’s a polar bear near you, it KNOWS where you are. And if by some good fortune it doesn’t, then alerting it to your location is the LAST thing you want to do, because it may be the last thing you ever do.”
I’d caution against use of pepper spray as well. It may have an effect on a challenging or charging bear, but to use it in any other case would invite trouble. Even in close quarters I doubt the ability of spray to deter a determined bear, and may even provoke him into a more enraged state, meaning that you might get your head ripped off instead of a few tread marks on the back. Bears attacking have been shot and not stopped.
My advise is to continue walking calmly at angles to the bear, and if charged or signs of aggressive behavior develop, lay down flat on the stomach (unless there is a good tree closeby). Staying calm is also important, since animals can “read” what goes along with a distressed state. Even such things many people are not conscious of as having any effect include eye movement and direction. Stopping, moving backwards or forewards, are also signs animals often translate as aggressive behaviors, especially males and protective females.
More people who pull guns that lack proper training have them used on themselves, the same concept applies to pepper spray and bears.
I suspect there is a higher incidence rate of people not making noise or pepper spraying bears that are not attacked, than those that react and do something so unwise.

yonason
December 24, 2009 6:09 pm

Glenn (17:27:40) :
Frank Kotler read the links I gave, and he gets it. If you read them, you probably will too. Polar bears like to eat people. The strategies that work for other wild animals won’t work with then, as the author of one of the articles almost found out the hard way.
Regards

Alvin
December 24, 2009 6:42 pm

All it takes is one environmentalist marketing executive (or a marketing executive sleeping with a environmentalist) with a catchy power point to take an entire corporation down this road.

Glenn
December 24, 2009 7:30 pm

yonason (18:09:40) :
“Frank Kotler read the links I gave, and he gets it. If you read them, you probably will too. Polar bears like to eat people. The strategies that work for other wild animals won’t work with then, as the author of one of the articles almost found out the hard way.”
Yes, I wasn’t specifically referring to polar bears here. I did mention an express rifle in the other thread specifically in regard to polar bears. Don’t leave home without one.

KP
December 24, 2009 7:36 pm

Ok, I sent them this through their idea submission form:
How about Coke getting OUT of the political arena?
How about NOT advancing incorrect science? How about getting ahead of the curve and taking the climategate emails seriously? People who are informed, who read the emails, who follow http://wattsupwiththat.com/ and http://climateaudit.org/ think those who are going on to the same old drumbeat about global warming and declining polar bear numbers are simply nuts! This is the biggest scientific and political scandal since the Catholic Church attacked Galileo. (Please see: http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-alienscauseglobalwarming.html for more examples of when “consensus” was wrong for years!) People who believe in science aren’t going to buy from companies who continue to spread lies and disinformation. So GET out of this game before it hurts your bottom line. And with the internet, the truth will come out in spite of the gatekeepers. In the meantime, I may just drink tap water even though I prefer Coke over any other soda. I don’t want a dime of my money going to support this corruption.

Rereke Whakaaro
December 24, 2009 7:42 pm

diana (19:13:40) :

Polar Bears and Grizzlies also can and do interbreed on the rare occasions that they cross paths.

What color are the offspring, and can they also mate with both subspecies?

December 24, 2009 8:43 pm

Someone asked for a list of other businesses supporting AGW.
One list is here:
http://www.us-cap.org/
I have already written John Deere telling them that if cap and trade passes, I will never again buy their equipment.
And as someone said about Coke and Pepsie: “A pox on both your houses.”
As the world’s number one obese nation we need to get back to water [and as someone said, NOT the tap water bottled by these two companies]

yonason
December 24, 2009 8:53 pm

Glenn (19:30:25) :
“yonason (18:09:40) :
Yes, I wasn’t specifically referring to polar bears here. I did mention an express rifle in the other thread specifically in regard to polar bears. Don’t leave home without one.”

Ok, good. I was just making sure we were on the same page.
Regards.

bryan
December 24, 2009 9:17 pm

Gee…imagine a polar bear drinking a cola…they must surely know the truth about CO2…sodas are loaded with them

NickB.
December 24, 2009 9:52 pm

Rereke Whakaaro (19:42:58) :
At least for this one article Wiki doesn’t show the usual nut job alarmist propaganda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grizzly%E2%80%93polar_bear_hybrid
When the confirmed case occurred in 2006 the news articles alleged that the hybrid was 1.) unprecedented and 2.) the result of global warming. Neither of which seem to be true on further review, or at least, have since been scrubbed from the Wiki article. Connolley must be falling down on the job 😉

Gregg E.
December 24, 2009 11:58 pm

If you don’t like tea or coffee because of their bitter taste, try rooibos “tea”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos There’s an instant brand called ReddRox.
There are many animals where the males will attempt to kill the young of the species. In some cases they’ll only attack offspring that’s not their own.
Domestic housecat males will often kill their own offspring, but the “Siamese” breed usually does not – especially the original variety with the stockier build and “puffy” cheeks. (Often called “applehead” Siamese.) I had one for many years who would protect birds and mice from other cats. Unusual for a cat, Shalimar wouldn’t eat or drink milk or any other dairy product. (His companion, Mischief, *loved* anything dairy but one lick would have her making “cat-pats” in the litterbox.) He was also leash trained and would urinate in a toilet- insisted on perching on the edge of the litterbox too. The one thing one did not do with that cat was touch him while walking outdoors. He’d bite and scratch, I still have the scars from that lesson. Indoors he was always gentle as can be.

Jimbo
December 25, 2009 3:14 am

John in GA (16:00:24):

“how much CO2 goes into the atmosphere each year so that people can gulp down fattening fizzy brown sugar water?”

Hi John, you forgot about their other brands such as:
Barq’s, Dasani water, Glacéau, Fanta, Fresca, Full Throttle, Fuze, Hi-C, Lift, Minute Maid, Monster Energy, Oasis, Odwalla, Powerade, Pibb, Relentless,
Sprite, Tab, Thums Up, Urge and Vault. And don’t forget the other Cokes (some discontinued) such as: Cherry Coke, Diet Cherry Coke, Vanilla Coke, Coca-Cola Orange etc.,
Fructose AND aspartame production (diet drinks).
full list of brands Wiki
Phew! I’m off for a Coke and rum. ;o)

December 25, 2009 4:58 am

“Experts estimate that around 1,000 of the world’s 22,000-25,000 remaining polar bears are killed each year.”
Has any one suggested giving them defensive driving courses? Or perhaps swimming lessons are in order.

December 25, 2009 4:59 am

over 500 bear are still shot every year with legal goverment issued permits largely canadian

December 25, 2009 5:00 am

Phew! I’m off for a Coke and rum. ;o)
Rum and Coke (as opposed to Coke and rum) will minimize your carbon footprint.

December 25, 2009 5:07 am

Staying calm is also important, since animals can “read” what goes along with a distressed state.
Actually it is smell.
And if humans paid more attention they could do the same trick. In any case even for the untrained “the smell of fear” is unmistakable.

grabski
December 25, 2009 9:39 am

Enjoy the Cola seen on NBC’s “The Office”, Scranton PA’s Crystal Club Cola

Gail Combs
December 25, 2009 10:41 am

John in GA (16:00:24) :
I agree one hundred percent. David Pimentel, professor of ecology and agriculture at Cornell did the energy conversions for corn to bio-fuel. Corn requires 29 percent more fossil energy than the fuel produced; When Congress mandated bio-fuels, Monsanto and Cargill reported record earnings (2008) while feed corn prices doubled here in the USA and third world countries rioted.
If the politicians really wanted to do something useful they would ban bio-fuels and soft drinks and get rid of concentrated feed lot operations. Corn is bad news for the soil too. There is a PEW Trust Report that goes into the problems with the current industrialization of agriculture. It is significant that they state:
“…According to a recent Tufts University study, the overproduction of agricultural crops such as corn and soybeans due to US agricultural policy since 1996 has, until recently, driven the market price of those commodities well below their cost of production” (Starmer and Wise, 2007  ) http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Industrial_Agriculture/PCIFAP_FINAL.pdf
This goes back to the VP of Cargill, Dan Amstutz, and the World Trade Organization, Agreement on Ag (1995) and Amstutz’ “Freedom to Farm Act” (1996) Taxpayer subsidies for corn and other comodity grains have had vast repercussions by undercutting third world farmers and bankrupting them. Taxpayer subsidized grains allows a financial advantage for artificial confinement operations, despite the fact that grass fed livestock is actually cheaper if grain was not tax payer subsidized.
“The present system of producing food animals in the United States is not sustainable and presents an unacceptable level of risk to public health and damage to the environment, as well as unnecessary harm to the animals we raise for food.
The “Green Revolution,” the worldwide transformation of agriculture that led to significant increases in agricultural production from 1940 through the 1960s. This transformation relied on a regime of genetic selection, irrigation, and chemical fertilizers pesticides developed by researchers such as Norman Borlaug and funded by a consortium of donors led by the Ford and Rockefeller foundations.
The Green Revolution would later prove to have unwanted ecological impacts, such as aquifer depletion, and groundwater contamination, and excess nutrient runoff, largely because of its reliance on monoculture crops, irrigation, application of pesticides, and use of nitrogen and phosphorous fertilizers (Tilman et al., 2002). These unwanted environmental consequences now threaten to reverse many of the yield increases attributed to the Green Revolution in much of North America.”
http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Industrial_Agriculture/PCIFAP_FINAL.pdf
Unfortunately tax payer subsidized corn is a big money maker for the multinational corporations and they are not about to change poisoning people with high fructose corn syrup, mandating biofuel made from corn and using cheap corn for concentrated feed lot operations.

Glenn
December 25, 2009 12:36 pm

M. Simon (05:07:07) :
Staying calm is also important, since animals can “read” what goes along with a distressed state.
“Actually it is smell.
And if humans paid more attention they could do the same trick. In any case even for the untrained “the smell of fear” is unmistakable.”
Perhaps, but animals read more than smell. Sight and sound are also employed by animals in locating and identifying as well as in determining behavior in other animals for that matter.

NickB.
December 25, 2009 3:28 pm

Steve Oregon (11:25:58) :
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Christmas-cartoon-on-melting-North-Pole.html
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Wow, whoever runs that website should be sued for false advertising… unless it’s a really clever spoof of course.
I found this page particularly amusing: http://www.skepticalscience.com/Arctic-sea-ice-melt-natural-or-man-made.htm – it “debunks” any questions about natural cycles and variability around sea ice extent. Gee wiz – I wonder why it hasn’t been updated with the 2008/2009 data(?)

December 25, 2009 3:34 pm

I’ve got an interesting polar bear pic for the support fund on my blog on December 12, 2009: papa polar bear eating a youngster, as they sometimes do.

NickB.
December 25, 2009 3:36 pm

BTW, this is the guy who created SkepticalScience.com: http://www.cartoonebooks.com/author.php?authora=2

DJ Meredith
December 27, 2009 6:49 pm

Sustainability? Save the polar bears from SUV’s????
Can you say disengenuous???
Coke supports Drag Racing…
The association between NHRA and Coca-Cola North America, with support from Coca-Cola Enterprises, includes a two-year partnership extension through the 2013 season, representing one of the longest running series sponsorships in motorsports. The new series will be called the NHRA Full Throttle Drag Racing Series.
http://www.allbusiness.com/food-beverage/food-beverage-overview/10177746-1.html
Coke supports NASCAR…
Coca-Cola is extending its relationship with NASCAR as the official non-alcoholic beverage provider through the 2017 season, continuing their 40-year partnership.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/117038
Coke supports Monster Trucks….
Coca-Cola monster delivery truck at the 2004 Power Stroke Diesel 200 NASCAR Craftsman Truck race. Taken 8-6-2004 with a Cannon Digital Rebel camera.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1176216091027916608WsASGn
Coke supports Motorcyle Racing…
Coca Cola are backing motorcycle racing with the announcement that Coca Cola Zero will sponsor Michael Rutter in British Superbikes, and back the North West 200 races in May.
This is the first official image of the bike Michael Rutter will race for the Coca Cola NW200 team.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/mcn/2009/January/5-11/jan0809-coca-cola-zero-sponsor-rutter-and-nw-200/

anonymouspolarbear
December 28, 2009 3:19 am

oh my goodeness…
coca-cola “a fine american product”…
ask the third world slave workers who brew this stuff how they feel about it…
when they get shot at as soon as they try to organize in labour unions…
enjoy your coke then…
some blood stains may benefit to the overall crazyness that is called christmas…
at least the color is the same…

KP
January 7, 2010 10:19 am

Wowsa, one thing is for sure, they can’t read in Coke customer service and it looks like they will be spouting the robotic global warming line of thought for a long time to come no matter what questions are out in the open now.
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Thank you for contacting The Coca-Cola Company, Ms. xxxxx.
At The Coca-Cola Company, we recognize that the implications of climate change are profound and wide-ranging, with expected impacts on biodiversity, water resources, public health, business and agriculture. We believe business can play a powerful role in helping drive climate solutions through innovation and competition, as well as by taking measures to reduce our own carbon footprint.
We are committed to working alongside government and civil society to address the root causes of climate change, and one way we have demonstrated that commitment is through our endorsement of the Copenhagen Communiqué.
We are among more than 500 companies in more than 60 countries that have endorsed the Copenhagen Communiqué, which calls on world leaders to agree to “an ambitious, robust and equitable global deal on climate change that responds credibly to the scale and urgency of the crisis facing the world today.” The signatories to the Communiqué agree that business will suffer if credible solutions are not found.
For our part, the Coca-Cola system continually works to reduce our carbon footprint by implementing new technologies and conservation measures for our refrigeration equipment, our packaging, our fleet and our bottling operations. For more information on these efforts, please visit the Environment section of our corporate web site.
Feel free to contact us if you have further questions.
Sheila
Industry and Consumer Affairs
The Coca-Cola Company
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How about NOT advancing incorrect science? How about getting ahead of the curve and taking the climategate emails seriously? People who are informed, who read the emails, who follow http://wattsupwiththat.com/ and http://climateaudit.org/ think those who are going on to the same old drumbeat about global warming and declining polar bear numbers are simply nuts! This is the biggest scientific and political scandal since the Catholic Church attacked Galileo. (Please see: http://www.crichton-official.com/speech-alienscauseglobalwarming.html for more examples of when “consensus” was wrong for years!) People who believe in science aren’t going to buy from companies who continue to spread lies and disinformation. So GET out of this game before it hurts your bottom line. And with the internet, the truth will come out in spite of the gatekeepers. In the meantime, I may just drink tap water even though I prefer Coke over any other soda. I don’t want a dime of my money going to support this corruption.