The Flip Side of Cooler Weather

Nah. Warm/cool is of little concern this hurrican season. Media’s more concerned with drooling over every tropical wave. Now that Fay’s finally {thankfully} faded the attention’s now on Gustav and its effects on the oil platforms and the odds it’ll smash into New Orleans – again. You can just feel the anticipation building at Lord Gore’s castle as he waits to pounce on another disaster in the making as proof of global warming.

Very good Mosh but did you properly separate you recyclables? You could be fined? LOL

well the second best way I know

jim they would have to find me to fine me.

It is a typical early October day here. And all which that implies.

Repeat after me: “When its unusually cool in one place, you can bet it’s unusually warm someplace else.” –Matt’s 1st rule of conservation of weather.

We are all doomed according to the AP…
On top of that, researchers were investigating “alarming” reports in the last few days of the release of methane from long frozen Arctic waters, possibly from the warming of the sea, said Greenpeace climate scientist Bill Hare, who was attending a climate conference in Ghana. Giant burps of methane, which is a potent greenhouse gas, is a long feared effect of warming in the Arctic that would accelerate warming even more, according to scientists.

I’ve mentioned that Australia will have an abnormally cool August. The reason is that we have had weather patterns typical of summer – large, slow moving high pressure systems in the Bight, which results in southerly winds over the east and dry easterly winds over the center and west.
It’s somewhat paradoxical that a summer weather pattern in winter results in abnormally, and possibly record, cold.
A related phenomena is that the hottest places cool the Earth the most. You can clearly see this on the outgoing longwave radiation images. Most heat is lost to space from the deserts of N. Africa and the Middle East, the hottest places in the world.
http://www.bom.gov.au/bmrc/clfor/cfstaff/matw/maproom/OLR/m.ly.html

Please, could we have a little of that heat wave in NW Oregon? My tomatoes and peppers would thank you. Seriously, it feels like the end of September here. If the clouds would clear, I would see new snow on Mt. Hood, only about a thousand feet above Timberline Lodge. The forecast for the next week is running about ten degrees below seasonal norms. But hey, I know that weather isn’t climate. Unless it’s hot weather.

Warmer temperatures are what every NW farmer hopes for. The growth of diverse agriculture in Washington, Oregon, and Idaho rode in on the coattails of the last 30 years of warming. We panic when cooling weather begins to dominate. Why? Because millions of dollars have been invested in planting warm climate crops, not cold climate crops. Only recently have we spent any money at all on investigating how to graft a cold weather grape onto a warm weather vine. Not much success, since the woody stems of the vine itself freezes and dies quicker than the devil on a visit to the North Pole.
Reports of warmer weather keeps us happily busy in the field doing our jobs. Reports of colder weather sends us to church and the bank, hat in hand, in that order.

I know this sounds petty, but what are ‘warmer’ and ‘cooler’ temperatures? (Here in Australia, I stand at the supermarket checkout bemused at being informed that ‘This checkout is for twelve items or less!’). Also, what is a ‘Quizno?’

I am loving it. Right now, I don’t have to go inland to experience that summer feeling during summer, or having to wait for late September, or early October and the God awful low sun angle. Nothing worse than a heat wave with dark conditions and long shadows.
No fog, no sea breeze – I was walking outside with T-shirt and shorts at midnight.

Steven Hill (14:32:35) :
Why the sarcasm? This is a real worry and if this part of the globalwarming scenario is playing out then yes, we should all be worried. The arctic ice extent is now at its 2nd lowest point and is now on course to beat last years record ice melt http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm.
If this causes, as it seems it may be starting to do, rapid relaeases of atmospheric methane, then we could potentially be facing a mass extinction event. In case you think I’m being sensationalistic bear in mind that large relases of methane are the most probable cause of the Permian extinction event 250,000,000 years ago which wiped out approx. 90% of land and marine life. Just google ‘Permian extinction methane’ to get a feel of the subject.

rutger (23:54:10) :
Please stop using untruths to try and justify your view, they are deliberately misleading and, to be honest, made up junk.
Why do you always use absolutes? The melt is known to be a combination of factors INCLUDING temperature, to say it is unrelated is frankly obsurd.
Your statement about the earth being without ice 99% of the time is also a lie, there have been ice caps for about 15% of the time, and ice on high altitudes for considerably more time.
Another lie when you say there was no ice 250 million years ago, this marks the end point of one of the major ice ages in earth history, the Karoo ice age (350-250 MYA). Immediately after this was a particularly rapid globalwarming event. There also may not have been ice on Antarctica as it was connected to Pangea at this time on the southern tip. The main reason why Antarctica is so cold now is because it is isolated at the south pole surrounded by the circumpolar currents.
I don’t know how you can say that it’s been getting colder and colder over the last 3 million years. We are either at the end of these cycles or at in interglacial period but the temperature during these cycles has been pretty similar at the top and bottom ends of the range.
Given the fact you have just made up virtually all that you said how can you present to the world your assertion that the methane doom extinction,as you put it, is complete nonsense?