Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change

NOTE: Mike alerted me in comments about this article he wrote along the lines of my story on Color and Temperature: Perception is everything. I thought this would be good to examine again.  This article below is re-posted from John Daly’s website, and was originally published July 7th, 2002. – Anthony


By: Michael Ronayne

In a story titled “Coloring Climate Change” by Nick Schulz, Tech Central Station reported that key documents, in a US government report titled “The National Assessment of the Potential Consequences of Climate Variability and Change“, were “doctored” to distort public perceptions of climate change. The report was published by the United States Global Change Research Program. According to their own web page, the USGCRP coordinates the research of ten Federal departments and agencies with active global change programs and provides liaison with the Executive Office of the President. The budget of the USGCRP in fiscal year 2002 was approximately $1.7 billion US dollars.

The National Assessment report has served as the basis for parts of the 2001 National Academy of Sciences’ report “Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions” prepared for President Bush on the state of climate science and, most recently, for the highly controversial “U.S. Climate Action Report – 2002“, covertly issued by climate alarmists within the Environmental Protection Agency, with the objective of embarrassing the Bush Presidency.

The TCS story displays two graphics, shown below. The graph on the left is the one which was circulated during the public comment period after the original draft was developed. It compares the Canadian Model with the Hadley Model for the lower 48 States for the summer months of June through August, over the next 100 years. The TCS story provides additional background on the two graphs and is highly commended to your attention. Then the disparity between the two models’ future forecasts, cast doubt on the predictive capacity of the Canadian and Hadley models, the USGCRP issued the final report on the right, with the color scale altered to obscure the differences between the two models.

Unfortunately for the USGCRP, the two models show the areas of warming and cooling to be occurring in widely different sections of the United States. The USGCRP’s solution to this conundrum was to alter the temperature color scale by eliminating yellow and green, and extending the color orange into negative temperature ranges as low as -1.0°F, thereby implying warming,  when in fact the models were showing no temperature change or cooling for some localities.

Above: When the “Draft” and “Final” copies of the USGCRP graphs are animated, employing a technique used elsewhere on this web site, the amateurish nature of the deception becomes painfully obvious.

Not only was the distorted temperature color scale used to obscure the next 100 years of temperature models, it was also used to change the perception of the United State’s past climatic history. The page “Overview:  Looking at America’s Climate” contains a graphic titled “Temperature Change(shown below), which attempts to minimize the significant cooling which occurred in the Southeastern United States during the 20th Century. This is achieved by coloring even the zero or `no change’ temperatures in light orange, and blending colors in such a way as to make it almost impossible to differentiate anything between about 0° and 5°.  Not even the IPCC has as yet stooped to this level of deception.

On the same web page, there is another graph titled “Summer Maximum and Winter Minimum Temperature Change(shown below), which contains the USGCRP’s final version of the Canadian and Hadley 21st Century Summer and Winter Models, again with a choice of color scheme which blends everything from 0° to 5° into a deceptive spread of orange.  Even areas which these models show will not change, are colored in orange. What other purpose can this peculiar coloring scheme serve but to suggest future warming in areas where none is actually predicted by the model?

The National Assessment of the Potential Consequences of Climate Variability and Change” report is comprised of three separate sections which represent themselves as addressing increasing levels of detail. The descriptions are those used by the USGCRP:

1. Overview Report:  Concise, well illustrated summary.

2. Foundation Report: Volume, more detailed than the Overview Report.

3. Background Information:  Learn more about the National Assessment.

The Overview Report is published in both HTML and PDF formats and contains all of the USGCRP graphs and most of the URLs, previously referenced. This report is clearly intended for the media and the general public. Its primary message is one of impending doom, associated with anthropogenic global warming.

I am not sure why the USGCRP expended the effort to create the Foundation Report. It has so many technical flaws, in terms of electronic publishing techniques, that anyone who attempted to read it, would be quickly discouraged from delving into its contents. The report is only published in two PDF formats. Each subsection of the report is comprised of two PDF files, one which is black and white, with extremely low resolution gray scale graphics. The second PDF file contains the color figures and graphs but only the text associated with each figure. As the figures associated with the text report are all but useless, because of the poor quality, the serious reader must have two PDF files open and switch between both files to comprehend the report. What is interesting is that the PDF file titled “Potential Consequences of Climate Variability and Change“, which contained color figures, shows in Figure 13, the US temperatures using the altered color temperature scale, but in Figure 20, the Global temperatures are displayed using the original color temperature scale found in the draft report. The only function of the altered color temperature scale is to obscure the differences between the Canadian and Hadley models for the 21st Century United States.  By contrast, the 21st Century Global graphs were not altered in this way.

In the Background Information section, things become interesting. On a deeply buried page at “VEMAP Trend Maps” the original high resolution images, on which the draft graphics were based, can still be found. The individual graphs are: “CGCM1 Maximum Temperature Trend (JJA)” and “HadCM2 Maximum Temperature Trend (JJA)“.

One could engage in endless speculation as to why the USGCRP went to the trouble of altering the first two sections yet failing to alter the third, which contained the most incriminating information. The two most likely explanations are: (1) the Background Information section was overlooked and (2) the USGCRP did not expect anyone to find the original graphs from the Canadian and Hadley Models. Also, on the “VEMAP Trend Maps” page the Canadian and Hadley Models are not compared side-by-side, so the inconsistencies between the models are not as obvious.

Of course, the USGCRP may not even care if the real results from the Canadian and Hadley Models are found. As long as the media continues to endlessly report only the results from the first two sections, the voices of a few skeptics can be safely ignored.

Last year in another story, a question was asked for which no reply has been forthcoming:   If the evidence for global warming is that compelling, why is it necessary for those who believe in global warming, to misrepresent data in this manner to support their cause?

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Steven Goddard
June 28, 2008 11:34 am

Great article. When people make intentional distortions like this in private sector reports, they frequently face prosecution. Yet in the world of government funded climate change research, it appears to be nearly mandatory behaviour.
I wrote a piece along related lines for The Register this month.
“Painting by numbers: NASA’s peculiar thermometer”
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/05/goddard_nasa_thermometer/

statePoet1775
June 28, 2008 11:40 am

Anthony,
I admire your ability to wade through crap. Thanks for the work.
For Christians in government, I remind them that ALL liars will experience the second death. Revelation 21:8

Bill in Vigo
June 28, 2008 11:53 am

What a great report. Makes you wonder just how much faith the “scientists” have in their products and how much the AGW protagonists have in the science. If we have not the proof to support our position then more study is needed and let the findings from face and empirical data lead where they may. To act with our adequate knowledge of the climate is worthless and possibly worse. If CO2 is what is keeping our world warm (warming) then the removal of CO2 would imply cooling (cold). I would much prefer warm my wife’s flowers bloom better in warm weather and just turn brown in cold weather. I think food crops do the same.
Keep up the good work Anthony and Mike for bringing this good article.
Bill Derryberry

Richard deSousa
June 28, 2008 12:07 pm

The Canadian graphics are pretty cheeeeezy!!

Richard deSousa
June 28, 2008 12:08 pm

Ooops! Both the Canadian and Hadley graphics are pretty cheeeezy

Steve Moore
June 28, 2008 12:10 pm

Using such a narrow color range makes the maps worthless.
Was that the intent?
Granted, the use of orange will certainly make many assume a general warming over all of the continent, but anyone looking for detail will be frustrated.
That, and the fact that my color-blindness falls in that range makes this particularl useless.

June 28, 2008 12:37 pm

If the evidence for global warming is that compelling, why is it necessary for those who believe in global warming, to misrepresent data in this manner to support their cause?
Answer: the facts point more to global cooling. Therefore, the AGW believers must use deception, rather than inconvenient facts that undermine their AGW hypothesis.
That is also the reason that none of the proponents of the AGW hypothesis will debate their position in a neutral, mutually agreeable forum, where each side is allowed to choose its debaters. The one [1] time they did debate, prior to the debate the audience was polled on whether they agreed with AGW. The majority said, “Yes.” Following the debate, the audience was again polled — and they had switched their view 180 degrees; the majority did not believe in the AGW hypothesis after hearing the facts presented.
Since that debate, the AGW believers have absolutely hidden out from any moderated debate. They only talk through the media.
Anyone who actually believes that they have truth on their side will not hesitate to debate their position. Doesn’t their dodging any real debate tell us all we need to know about the AGW hypothesis?

DAV
June 28, 2008 1:06 pm

Yes, that spin in the “National Assessment…” appears rather sleazy. When I first read the TCS article, I agreed with them but now I’m not so sure.
Neither chart has any significant cooling area although Hadley has approximately 1/3 of the US close to a delta of 0F (maybe slightly lower). Both seem to show an average of +5F. (It’s hard to tell with all that flashing. The non-flashing charts are too small for me to read). Green seems to universally convey comfort. Is a +5F delta supposed to be comfortable? I don’t know. But if it isn’t, then the draft version was the misleading one.
Maybe someone can show the chart with 0F showing as green.
I don’t think this should be confused with the previous question about current temperature charts.
BTW: The flashing animation is really annoying and hard to analyze. Can’t you slow it down to maybe 1 Hz better yet 0.5 Hz?
REPLY: It is at .5 to 1 Hz now, but some non compliant browsers will run it as fast as possible. Try a different browser. IE6 or Forefox3 look OK.

Leon Brozyna
June 28, 2008 1:11 pm

Scientists cook the books to further the case for AGW. That’s the conclusion that should be drawn by looking at how this agency modified the map coloring. An unsuspecting layman or journalist will look at those red & orange hued maps and will come to the conclusion that there is striking concensus amongst scientists and agencies as to the effect of global warming ~ it’s going to get hot, hotter than anything yet experienced.
AGW proponents excoriate skeptics of their belief system by smearing them with charges of being in the pay of the energy industry for paltry sums in the tens of millions of dollars and here’s a single agency devoted to proving AGW, funded to the tune approaching two billion dollars. It’s no wonder they cook the books. And the media looks the other way since this is all for a good cause.
Now, why should a layman {taxpayer} believe anything science says?

June 28, 2008 1:25 pm

If you read the comments carefully, I mentioned this before Mike did.

DAV
June 28, 2008 1:28 pm

Smokey:

If the evidence for global warming is that compelling, why is it necessary for those who believe in global warming, to misrepresent data in this manner to support their cause?

I’m not defending these charts but I think it necessary to remain reasonable and not immediately assume chicanery. This is especially important when analyzing an article claiming chicanery.
This chart was produced in the 2001-2002 time frame. At that time, there wasn’t much evidence of any cooling. Yes 1999 and 2000 were much cooler than 1998, but the argument was that this was El Nino rebound. (for those who need it, supply your own tilde or whatever that thing is called). The report writers didn’t have to resort to any subterfuge to bolster a failing theory.
I think there’s a more reasonable and innocent explanation.
Perhaps I’m going blind, but today’s re-look leads me to believe that the report writers wanted to clearly emphasize what appears to be a general +5F rise reported by both models. Try redoing the chart with green in the middle extending into red starting at about +1 and extending into blue starting at about -1F and see if you don’t agree.
I’ve only seen TCS take on the report. Never read the actual myself. The real problem with the report is that it seems to represent only the worst case. I would expect a policy report to contain three scenarios (best case, typical and worst case) along with expected probabilities. If the report only had the charts above, then the kindest thing to say is it was a disservice.

Jeff Alberts
June 28, 2008 1:28 pm

For Christians in government, I remind them that ALL liars will experience the second death. Revelation 21:8

Can we leave this sort of crap out of scientific and policy discussions please?

BarryW
June 28, 2008 1:35 pm

The problem is ideological. Whether or not the data shows warming the Carbonites believe in AGW because it must exist. Anything that capitalism puts into the air must have a deleterious effect because capitalism is immoral. Therefore one must convince the proletariat of the real truth, regardless of the evidence. They believe they are doing was is right for the long term even if they have to lie in the present.

DAV
June 28, 2008 1:37 pm

Anthony:

Try a different browser. IE6 or Forefox3 look OK.

I’m using IE7. I’ll have to wait until I can get to a Linux box later to try Firefox.
4fox3? Sounds like that should be followed with an “over and out!”
REPLY: Roger that. You can put FireFox3 on Windows, works great. There may be something else at work in your box that is causing animated GIFS to run fast.

statePoet1775
June 28, 2008 2:00 pm

Sorry, Jeff. Those all red weather maps reminded me of, you know …
hell.
But I am interested why Christians would buy into AGW. Sure, one day we may be allowed to regulate the climate but that would seem to be a low priority for now. Besides, I thought honesty was the best policy.

June 28, 2008 2:33 pm

DAV, just as an FYI, I use a Mac browser – Safari – and the gif image appears to be exactly a 1 Hz alteration between the two images according to my handy stopwatch.

Larry Sheldon
June 28, 2008 3:15 pm

“BTW: The flashing animation is really annoying and hard to analyze. Can’t you slow it down to maybe 1 Hz better yet 0.5 Hz?”
Two thoughts come to mind, three maybe.
I don’t like things thatr flash either (I run blockers to stop ads that do that. But in this case (and at the Mars Phoenix site) it is the only way to demonstrate the point.
Can’t you go to the original source to do your analysis?
What happens when you don’t over clock your CPU’s?
And lastly: I have not done a rigourous study (yet?) but it seems like charts of this sort go from green to blue at about 40 degrees F, and thence to white at around 0 degrees F; and from green to yellow at around 80 degrees F and orange around 100 degrees F and red at 110 degrees F or so.

Larry Sheldon
June 28, 2008 3:22 pm

This one does not fit what I described, exactly, but it does answer the question I had of “OK, how do they depict temperatures below white–I know they do?”
From the Weather Underground:
http://www.wunderground.com/US/Region/US/Temperature.html
And BTW:
http://www.wunderground.com/data/images/latest_monthlytempanomaly.gif
from
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/

Jeff Alberts
June 28, 2008 4:12 pm

Sorry, Jeff. Those all red weather maps reminded me of, you know …hell.

Lol, fair enough.

But I am interested why Christians would buy into AGW. Sure, one day we may be allowed to regulate the climate but that would seem to be a low priority for now. Besides, I thought honesty was the best policy.

Well, since they’re prone to taking outrageous claims without proof, they’re actually the perfect candidates for accepting AGW.

Thom Scrutchin
June 28, 2008 4:16 pm

Hansen is wrong about who ought to go on trial.
This is the most blatant misrepresentation that I have ever seen.
The Weather Underground maps were the worse. 30-40F is represented by green. Now, I know that there are great variations in what people find comfortable, i.e. green, but I would assert that very few people think of 30F as a nice green temperature. Even fewer plants would think of it as green.
What a crosk!

statePoet1775
June 28, 2008 4:50 pm

Jeff,
Actually, I am a Christian. Faith goes beyond the facts but not against them.
Other Christians should have more faith that God won’t allow them to cook over CO2 emissions, not when curtailing them may cost lives.

Jeff Alberts
June 28, 2008 7:19 pm

Sorry, Statepoet, but I disagree vehemently. But this isn’t the place for religious discussions.
REPLY: Hey, we talk about AGW all the time here.

statePoet1775
June 28, 2008 8:10 pm

Jeff,
Just trying with a little logic to weed out Christians from the AGW crowd. The logic is not directed at you.
However, if there is no concerned Creator, mankind is doomed by quite a number of disasters (gamma ray bursters, super novas, asteroid collisions, comet collisions, etc.) Plus Yellowstone, when it blows, could destroy civilization.
There is a bridge guideline that goes like this: If the cards must lay a certain way for it to be possible to win the hand then go ahead and assume that the cards lay that way.
If there is no Creator then as the Mogambo Guru says: “We are freaking doomed!” Therefor, I assume He does exist. Also, I believe that CO2 management is low on His list of priorities.

PPV
June 28, 2008 8:42 pm

This is just outright fraud. Nothing more needs to be said.

Evan Jones
Editor
June 28, 2008 8:57 pm

Lovely.
Doesn’t their dodging any real debate tell us all we need to know about the AGW hypothesis?
I would say that obfuscating or refusing to release data and methods tells us all we need to know.

Jeff Alberts
June 28, 2008 9:28 pm

However, if there is no concerned Creator, mankind is doomed by quite a number of disasters (gamma ray bursters, super novas, asteroid collisions, comet collisions, etc.) Plus Yellowstone, when it blows, could destroy civilization.

I think the natural disasters we’ve experienced in our short lifetimes shows there is no concerned creator. Yellowstone might well destroy civilization, but not humankind.

If there is no Creator then as the Mogambo Guru says: “We are freaking doomed!” Therefor, I assume He does exist. Also, I believe that CO2 management is low on His list of priorities.

We’re certainly doomed if we’re relying on imaginary beings to protect us. IMHO, our civilization has no meaning in the greater scheme of things.

Jeff B.
June 28, 2008 10:27 pm

I’m using IE7
There’s your problem.

MarkL
June 28, 2008 11:22 pm

Just a quick aside from a fascinated lurker to Jeff Alberts with apologies for the OT. Pope Benedict has put a very interesting argument up in the Regensberg Address that religious faith and scientific endeavour are actually two sides of the one coin and mutually reinforcing. Regensberg Uni is of course, a place where science degrees and theological degrees are taught side by side.
MarkL
Canberra

Evan Jones
Editor
June 28, 2008 11:46 pm

I think the natural disasters we’ve experienced in our short lifetimes shows there is no concerned creator.
That would assume that God is necessarily concerned with earthly wellbeing.
What if, as is commonly believed, life on earth is a mere, brief testing ground for a soul’s destiny in eternity? Then goodness or badness, justice, injustice, and early, arbitrary death are irrelevant in the long run. It would all be wrapped up in what one does with what time one has.
Or to put it another way, your teacher would care a lot whether you score well on the SAT but would not be overly concerned if the AC wasn’t working during the test. He’d care about how well you did, not how comfortable you were during the three hours of the test.
I am a nonbeliever, but seemingly arbitrary death and disaster is perfectly well accounted for by every major religion.

Chris Hanley
June 29, 2008 1:01 am

A disingenuous response would be, what’s the fuss about, they are only colors.
The psychological effect of color is well recognized and used in advertising and marketing.
http://www.precisionintermedia.com/color.html

Admin
June 29, 2008 2:30 am

I must agree with DAV here. The drafts are far more psychologically misleading than the final versions. The (projected) information being conveyed shows a lot of heating in almost all regions and almost no cooling. Green and blue imply cooling.
The draft makes sense from the point of view of conveying the greatest dynamic range of information with colors, but the consequence is that unless someone carefully reads and uses the key, they will think the model conveys a mix of warming and cooling, and the information being represented is almost entirely warming, or at best neutral throughout the region.
There’s definitely some gaming in the final version, as zero, or a small negative is still shown orange rather than green or blue, but if honest authors and editors believed the information they were trying to represent was a prediction of almost universal warming, they would have considered the draft to be the misleading color scheme, and rightfully so.

statePoet1775
June 29, 2008 7:36 am

Evan,
Not bad for a heathen 🙂
I would just add that the God I believe in is concerned even with suffering in this life but that there are higher priorities. I won’t argue the point though.
Jeff,
My belief extols work as well as faith so I will work in confidence.

Jeff Alberts
June 29, 2008 9:08 am

That would assume that God is necessarily concerned with earthly wellbeing.

All the believers think he/she/it is.

What if, as is commonly believed, life on earth is a mere, brief testing ground for a soul’s destiny in eternity? Then goodness or badness, justice, injustice, and early, arbitrary death are irrelevant in the long run. It would all be wrapped up in what one does with what time one has.

What if, it’s not. Really, Evan, this is just philosophizing. No one knows or can know one way or the other, which is the whole problem. You know that religion is a means of controlling the populace, nothing more.

Or to put it another way, your teacher would care a lot whether you score well on the SAT but would not be overly concerned if the AC wasn’t working during the test. He’d care about how well you did, not how comfortable you were during the three hours of the test.

Sorry, but how does this equate to an all-powerful, all-knowing being who seems concerned enough about the “sweet savour” of roasted, unblemished male rams we all must sacrifice, but no one does? Concerned enough that we shouldn’t eat pork, must stone rape victims to death because they just shouldn’t have been out in the city, concerned enough to torture an old man into killing his son only to call “psych” just before the deed? Come on, Evan, you know it’s all a bunch of crap.

I am a nonbeliever, but seemingly arbitrary death and disaster is perfectly well accounted for by every major religion.

Of course it is. They’d have been out of business long ago if they couldn’t answer why bad things happen to good people. And the answers are bogus.

Jeff Alberts
June 29, 2008 9:13 am

MarkL, I’ve already posted more on this than I should have, so won’t go on. You all get the last word. Let’s just say the Pope can say anything he wants, that doesn’t make it true. And Theology is the study of religion, not faith.

Ben
June 30, 2008 4:38 am

I agree that neither version is reasonable.
The second one overplays warming and shows that there is a lot occurring, and the first underplays it, masking the warming. However, of the two, I believe the first one was innocent, done to maximize contrast, and the second one was deliberately done to emphasize warming. Why? Because there is a full spectrum of colors that is expected on weather maps, ranging from purple in the extreme cold to red in extreme heat. Eliminating any color on the rainbow causes confusion, especially eliminating the neutral green and warm yellow colors, skiping straight to the orange.
A better scale would be
< -3 degrees = Blue – Cooling
+/- 3 degrees = Green – Really no change
< 6 degrees = Yellow
9 degrees = Red

Ophiuchus
July 1, 2008 3:27 pm

I suggest that the criticism of the map coloring reflects an unfamiliarity with some of the principles that drive the use of color in graphical representations. It appears to me that the left side graphics (which include the green color) were created with the goal of maximizing differentiation by using the broadest color range over the existing range of delta-Ts. This is the starting point for most graphics that use color.
However, I can also see somebody point out that cool colors imply cooling and that therefore the color range should be adjusted so as to have warm colors indicating warming and cool colors indicating cooling. This is exactly what the right-side graphics appear to do, although they do suffer from a problem with the transition from warm colors to cool colors: first, they jump directly from orange to blue, and second, the transition occurs at -1 degree Fahrenheit rather than 0 degrees Fahrenheit.
Unless I am greatly misunderstanding the claims made in this article, I think the criticism offered is unjustified.
REPLY: Yes you’ve completely misunderstood it.

Ophiuchus
July 1, 2008 6:51 pm

Well then, let me show you the statement in your article that was the basis for my observation:
The USGCRP’s solution to this conundrum was to alter the temperature color scale by eliminating yellow and green, and extending the color orange into negative temperature ranges as low as -1.0°F, thereby implying warming, when in fact the models were showing no temperature change or cooling for some localities.
The problem with this sentence is that the two clauses constitute a non sequitur. The first clause talks about the color scale, while the second clause asserts that the applied colors did not match the underlying temperatures. There’s no logical relationship between the two clauses. Moreover, you seem to have three actual complaints:
a. the colors yellow and green were eliminated. Is this an aesthetic criticism? Do you have some special attachment to yellow and green?
b. the color orange has been extended below 0 degrees Fahrenheit to -1 degree Fahrenheit. This criticism is justified — but hardly serious given the displayed range of some 20 degrees Fahrenheit.
c. You imply that there exist points on the map whose temperature differentials are not correctly represented by the applied colors. Is this in fact your claim?
REPLY: Nope, still missed it

Steven Goddard
July 1, 2008 8:08 pm

An excellent example of a NASA map, carefully colored to create alarm.
They used yellow to represent areas where sea level is falling.
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=18075

Ophiuchus
July 1, 2008 9:44 pm

Your cryptic replies suggest evasiveness rather than openness. If you don’t care to discuss the matter, perhaps it would be better to simply say so.
REPLY: No I’m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don’t see it by now, you probably won’t.

Ophiuchus
July 1, 2008 10:08 pm

Steven Goddard suggests that the NASA sea level map was “carefully colored to create alarm”. I examined the map and see nothing alarming in it. They used the most common approach of fitting the color scale to the range of possible values, and in this case used yellow as the null value. I examined the actual RGB values at the extremes and the middle, and it’s difficult to assign a numeric algorithm to their scale. In any case, I see no basis for the claim that there’s something deliberately deceptive in the color scheme. Could you expand on your statement?

Ophiuchus
July 2, 2008 6:54 am

No I’m just waiting for the light bulb to come on for you. Personally I think you are overanalysing it. I figure that if you don’t see it by now, you probably won’t.
When a communication fails, the reader asks for clarification, and the writer refuses, do this prove that the reader is stupid or that the author is evasive?

July 2, 2008 8:06 pm

[…] Far from continuing to rise in sync with CO2 levels, as the theory says they should, temperatures have not only been dropping but are now lower than when Hansen and Gore set the scare in train in 1988. (For latest graph see the Watts Up With That website.) […]

Budd Campbell
July 4, 2008 10:51 am

It was revealing to see the posts by statepoet. I suppose he’s typical?
REPLY: I wouldn’t know, are unclear comments typical for you?

Robert Bateman
July 5, 2008 10:27 pm

The Earth’s climate, whether warming or cooling, is not the simple thing that we seek.
The Earth’s climate, she’s as fickle as they come, perched on a hair trigger.
Doesn’t seem to take a whole lot to run it hot or cold, whether it’s sunspot activity, volacanoes cooking off, massive dumping of CO2 into the atmosphere, etc.
The whole geologic record going back 4 billion years seems to imply that while at any given point in time you can have large climate swings, on the whole it has been cooling since the Earth formed. There was even an ice age some 3.x billion years ago. So the Earth’s climate, she’s fickle and easily moved about and it’s probably been that way from the beginning.
What might this mean? If we knew what we were doing, global climate moderating is possible.
But make a change in the midst of a misread trend and you might get an Ice Age or a PETM.
The Lag time of Co2 rising after warming in light of the climate cooling 30 yrs after the onset of Maunder Minimum seems to say that there is great momentum in play in the climate engine, but it does reverse directions in a few decades.
The Sun also may have the same general tendency of many decades.
Who is to say that the Sun’s magnetic hiccups of many maxima followed by inconsistent minima is not due to the Sun’s travelling through galactic lines of force? Might be something to look at. Or it could be that the Sun has it’s own massive inertia to overcome long after the forces that drove the stop are spent.
But every time I see these plotted graphs I have to think that they are really showing us symptoms instead of telling us what is causing the change.
I’m grasping at the straws here, because there really isn’t much else to reach for.
One thing is for sure: This sunspot delay/crash has just wiped out all our theories. We have precious little idea of what comes next.

July 15, 2008 6:16 pm

[…] Coloring the Models: Climate Change through Color Change NOTE: Mike alerted me in comments about this article he wrote along the lines of my story on Color and Temperature: Perception is everything. So I thought this would be good to examine again. This article below is re-posted from John … […]

Hellhound
August 15, 2008 8:18 am

Ah, El Reg’s Mr. Goddard! Who is he, one may ask, as a “Steven Goddard” doesn’t even exist on the interweb before April 2008.
Yet the Register chose to continously enlighten us with his views on climate change without criticism, Is he perhaps having some connection to IT professional John Atkinson, who was allowed to post a similarly incoherent article on the Register? Is it just a coincidence that someone using the moniker “John A.” pops up regularly on the blog of Stephen McIntyre, who works in IT as well and is known for making powerful oil interests heard?

yonason
December 23, 2008 5:58 pm

WHO IS “Hellhound?”
Is he the Greenpeace mascot? Or perhaps it’s the bow ornament of one of their scows after which this poster chooses to name himself? Is it just a coincidence that when anyone tries to tell the truth, he pops up and throws his quano in their general direction? And why is he so eager for puny anti-civilization interests to be heard? Is it because misery love company? I have a feeling that if this mystery were to be solved, we would be no more the wiser for our wasted efforts than that pathetic drone “Hellhound” ever is.