India ignores media preaching on ‘net zero carbon’

First-world ‘experts’ have no business chiding nations that prefer prosperity over poverty

Duggan Flanakin

India is just one of an increasing number of “developing” nation which have recognized that the mad rush toward a “net zero carbon” economy does not serve the interests of their ordinary citizens. These countries are also waking up to the fact that serving the public interest necessitates major increases in abundant, affordable, reliable, mostly fossil fuel electricity to power their burgeoning economies.

When first-world reporters write about the developing world’s ongoing love affair with fossil fuels, their reports are “not necessarily the news!” Instead, they editorialize in nearly every story about the “sad” reliance of India, China, African nations and others on “the highest polluting resource” – coal.

The sirens of cyberspace have embraced as gospel the diktat of the Paris climate accord that countries must cut their greenhouse gas emissions to “net zero” as quickly as possible.  Otherwise, they chirp in unison, the Earth will soon become a burning inferno from superheating caused by CO2 released from burning fossil fuels.

The “erudite” have decreed that any “climate change” will necessarily bring unspeakable horrors upon us all. The zeal for climate stasis by those currently at the top of the pyramid is such that some have even proposed permanently darkening the sky to stop the imagined heat from killing us! That highly risky endeavor could impact all life on Earth. (In reality, a far worse future would be a colder climate with less atmospheric CO2, because that would reduce arable land, growing seasons and plant growth.)

But the elitists in Washington, Brussels and New York City have a big problem. China, the world’s leader in CO2 emissions, and India, already Number 3, are not kowtowing to their demands. Meanwhile, African countries are planning to build more than 1,250 new coal and gas-fired power plants by 2030. And neither UN “peacekeeping forces” nor even the increasingly “woke” US or EU military can be deployed to force these nations into “compliance,” er, submission.

Recognizing this awkward reality, climate elitists are now relying on the old adage that “the pen is mightier than the sword.” Public shaming has worked well with first-world corporations, so why not use it worldwide?

A necessary first step toward restoring “the right order of things” was President Biden’s fulfilled promise to immediately rejoin the Paris climate accords and subject the US economy to its whims. To stem the cries of “unfair trade advantages” for the world’s two most populous nations, the “masters of the universe” unleashed the media hounds to cajole, beg and virtue-signal the “lesser” peoples into line.

For India, the latest round of shaming has already begun. On March 17, Bloomberg Quint (Bloomberg’s Indian affiliate) reporters Archana Chaudhary, Akshat Rathi and Rajesh Kumar Singh announced that “Top Indian government officials are debating whether to set a goal to zero out its greenhouse gas emissions by mid-century.” (At no point did the intrepid reporters actually name any of these officials.)

The Bloomberg trio further claimed that “officials close to Prime Minister Narenda Modi” were drawing up plans to achieve the net-zero target by 2050 – a full decade ahead of China – which says it intends to finally cap its CO2 emissions at whatever level they have reached by 2060, after four more decades of growth. Even so, “Modi will also need to navigate potential pushback from inside his government” in order to achieve the targets demanded by such dignitaries as US “Climate Envoy” John Kerry.

In a follow-up article six days later, Singh and Debjit Chakraborty cited a new report that proclaimed “India must phase out its coal-fired power plants” in order to achieve net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. And two days after that, Singh claimed that India is “under growing pressure to improve its climate commitments, which have forced government officials to debate a possible net-zero emissions target.” Moreover, he warned, Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has called investments in fossil fuels “a human disaster and bad economics.” [emphasis added]  

Not surprisingly, Singh’s March 25 report was also full of “bad” news. India has set in motion its biggest ever auction of coal mines in the country “despite the fossil fuel’s key role in contributing to global warming.” The auction opens coal mining to private firms and thus dislodges the state monopoly over the domestic coal market. That, he asserted, “sends mixed signals at a time when the world’s third-biggest emitter of greenhouse gases needs to shed its dependence on coal.”

Despite the preaching, Singh admitted that the Indian government sees private coal mining as a way to create jobs in an economy devastated by the COVID pandemic. Coal mining projects, he conceded, will bring in new investments and boost socio-economic development in mining regions (and beyond). He even cited Tim Buckley of the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis, who recognizes that “India can’t just stop using coal overnight.” Coal is still “a necessary evil for the country.

There is another problem with the Bloomberg version of India’s alleged quest for Net Zero.

Vijay Jayaraj, research associate for developing countries at the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of
Creation, chided the Bloomberg trio for urging India to banish coal. Noting that “No official sources have confirmed that New Delhi is devising a Net-Zero target for 2050,” Jayaraj derided “the anti-fossil lobby, which includes journalists,” for trying to pressure developing countries into shutting down their fossil industry – thereby condemning billions to poverty, limited opportunities and whatever minimal living standards can be sustained by expensive, intermittent wind and solar power.

India, says Jayaraj, is building a fossil-fuel-dominated energy sector, not a green one. The country is also seeking to curtail inflation and secure additional oil imports at a time when “anti-fossil journalists have ushered in confusion by claiming the Indian government is now aiming to achieve Net-Zero emissions by 2050.” Predictably, Bloomberg did not respond when asked by Jayaraj just which “officials close to” Prime Minister Modi they were citing.

Indeed, unfazed by the sirens, India is moving ahead on a second round of commercial coal mine auctions, with 67 sites up for bids. The nation needs a constant increase in coal production to support its growing coal-fired power plant fleet and is currently constructing new coal plants with a total capacity of 36.6 gigawatts (GW); it has another 29.3 GW in the pipeline.

India is also upping its reliance on that other bugbear of the Green Monarchy – crude oil, a very important commodity for the Indian economy. The world’s third largest oil importer, whose trucking industry almost exclusively rolls on petroleum products, is now buying oil from Guyana and Brazil. The post-COVID recovery is being slowed by rising oil prices, so diversification of supply is vital.

Moreover, says oil minister Dharmendra Pradhan, Africa too has “a central role” in aiding India’s quest to further diversity its sourcing of crude oil, liquefied natural gas, and other petroleum and energy products, “largely due to its proximity and the absence of any choke points in trans-shipments.” These new African (and South American) oil markets are crucial to India’s economy, notes Jayaraj.

Meanwhile, India’s response to the Bloomberg reporters’ virtue signaling was to extend deadlines by up to three years for coal-fired power plants to install Flue Gas Desulphurization (scrubber) units that cut emissions of sulfur dioxides and other pollutants. Utilities that miss even these delayed targets could continue operations after paying a penalty. India’s power ministry explained that this action is intended to avoid immediate increases in electricity prices.

As Jayaraj concludes, India’s openness to new oil producers and push to expedite coal-mining are sending a clear signal: India’s leaders are more concerned about the economic well-being of their citizens than about pleasing bureaucrats and stuffed-shirt billionaires living in luxury thousands of miles away. That has to hurt their egos – and underscore the insanity and futility of net-zero quests by the US, EU and other nations.

Duggan Flanakin is director of policy research at the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (www.CFACT.org).

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April 11, 2021 10:28 pm

The “erudite” have decreed that any “climate change” will necessarily bring unspeakable horrors upon us all. The zeal for climate stasis by those currently at the top of the pyramid is such that some have even proposed permanently darkening the sky to stop the imagined heat from killing us! That highly risky endeavor could impact all life on Earth. (In reality, a far worse future would be a colder climate with less atmospheric CO2, because that would reduce arable land, growing seasons and plant growth.)

Global Warming/Climate Change is a hard sell. We are being told that a warmer world with more rain, more arable land with CO2 augmented agriculture constitutes a future catastrophic disaster. As hard sells go, selling an ice box to an Eskimo pales in comparison.

Anyone who actually tries to darken the sky or any of the other geo engineering schemes that have been proposed needs to be charged tried convicted and jailed for crimes against humanity.

TRM
Reply to  Steve Case
April 12, 2021 9:15 am

“As hard sells go, selling an ice box to an Eskimo pales in comparison”
LOL. So true. But since the bogeyman of CO2 didn’t get the job done they’ve switched gears to “covid-19”. They’ll probably try and do both because just like wearing 2 masks, more is better.

Reply to  Steve Case
April 12, 2021 11:09 am

I think a new crime will have to be invented, Gaiacide or something, as these clowns could affect all life on earth.

Seriously, i think it needs to be clearly stated that geo-engineering projects will require proponents to put their own lives on the line.
Unlike fudging data to coerce trillions in spending on useless wind turbines, there can be direct, serious consequences for all life on earth from these schemes.

Make it absolutely clear what proponents have at stake?

garboard
Reply to  Steve Case
April 12, 2021 11:27 am

gonna make for some interesting lawsuits anyway

April 11, 2021 10:33 pm
Richard (the cynical one)
April 11, 2021 10:37 pm

There is more common sense in India and Africa than either Europe or North America.

Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
April 12, 2021 6:57 pm

Subsistence existence does that to you.
My parents and grandparents had sense, otherwise dead fast.

In the west this is all a symptom of too easy times

April 11, 2021 10:40 pm

I gave the article 5 stars for bringing up some inconvenient truths about real world energy needs – but it should have mentioned how the 36GW of coal plants under construction compares to the wind/solar under construction in India and the world. Also mention of a cost-benefit analysis would have been helpful – over the next 100 years, even assuming most of the climate-fiction horror stories are true, how many Indians will die from an extra 2 degrees °C versus how many will die without reliable electricity and the whole modern society that depends on it for modern hospitals, transportation and even ‘luxuries’ like air-conditioning. Most of the country and in fact most of the world is not living in a ‘modern society’ and any fat western eco-socialist trying to stop that development is racist, misogynistic and misanthropic (there’s reasons enough to include all three)

Reply to  PCman999
April 11, 2021 11:33 pm

how many Indians will die from an extra 2 degrees °C versus how many will die without reliable electricity 

This is one pf the things that pisses me off about this whole thing.

800,000 people die each and every year due to a lack of clean water. This is an issue we can do something about at a fraction of the cost of “fixing” climate. And yet we prioritise a non-issue over a real issue.

Greens are anti-human.

Editor
Reply to  Redge
April 12, 2021 1:12 am

Redge, thank you for your comment about clean water and prioritising “a non-issue over a real issue”.

Please consider preparing an article for WUWT. See the SUBMIT STORY link at the top of the page.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Bob

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
April 12, 2021 1:55 am

I’m not sure I have the writing skills to engage readers, but I’ll see what I can do.

Ron Long
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
April 12, 2021 2:50 am

You’re right on track, Bob. This whole CAGW nonsense is not only damaging economies it is diverting attention from actual harmful pollution issues. The amount of money already spent on CAGW is staggering, and what next? Double down!

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Redge
April 12, 2021 5:55 am

“Greens are anti-human” because they aim for a highly de-populated earth with few humans having a low impact on the goddess planet Gaia, as they, with all the other vegan herds, face the benign carnivores, predators and the gentle forces of a balmy but implacable nature.

n.n
Reply to  Redge
April 12, 2021 12:37 pm

Wicked solutions and all, they are transhumane (i.e. state or process of divergence from humane).

They’re predominantly Green, perhaps green, for greenbacks and other secular lucre.

griff
Reply to  PCman999
April 12, 2021 12:11 am

There is now nowhere in India not connected to the power grid…

whether people living in the connected places have access to that power is quite another thing.

Reply to  griff
April 12, 2021 11:25 am

Even if true, connection is meaningless if there isn’t enough power coming in the other end.
All you are proposing is brownouts and rolling blackouts.

n.n
Reply to  PCman999
April 12, 2021 12:34 pm

racist, misogynistic and misanthropic

Diversitist.

‘modern society’ and any fat western eco-socialist trying to stop that development

Modern garbage. Also, nearly 80% of Covid-19 cases are “body positive” as in “health at any weight”, “fat is beautiful”.

April 11, 2021 11:10 pm

Also from India…
Quote: “”Uttarakhand’s forest fires emitted nearly 0.2 mega tonnes of carbon in the past one month, a record since 2003″

While the headline to that story says this:
Quote:“India’s forest fires are worrying scientists”

Yet while ‘Saving The Earth’ and ‘Thinking of the Children’ and inside the exact same timespan, Drax Power Station (##) emitted belched spewed over 2 million (mega) tonnes of carbon dioxide, by burning trees

what am I missing here……….

## My BoE calculation- assume 1 tonne per mega-Watt-hour and that Drax ‘renewable’ runs at 3GW on full chat, as it has been in this recent cold weather

Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 11, 2021 11:37 pm

~shakes head~

Peta, Peta, Peta…

There’s a big difference between Drax pellets being shipped across the Atlantic to power homes in the UK and natural fires in India.

The Drax pellets come from sustainable forests

(please don’t tell me I need a sarc tag)

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Redge
April 12, 2021 12:51 am

The inhabitants of Maine are increasingly worried by the disappearance of their once beautiful forests.

Klem
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
April 12, 2021 2:42 am

The beautiful forests of Maine have been stripped away at least twice over the past 100 years, but they grew back. Weird huh?

Reply to  Klem
April 12, 2021 3:41 am

The forests in Maine are threatened by developers not the forestry industry.

garboard
Reply to  Klem
April 12, 2021 12:11 pm

all the beautiful spruce covered islands of today were stripped bare and turned into pasturage for sheep . its strange looking at pictures of the islands in the 19’th century . fishing , quarrying and sheep

griff
Reply to  Peta of Newark
April 12, 2021 12:12 am

You are missing the relentless opposition to Drax from green groups in the UK and their opposition to any more plants like Drax.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  griff
April 12, 2021 10:46 am

Good point, griff. Deliberately chopping down and burning forests to save the planet is such idiocy that both sides of the climate conflict can agree it’s bad. Michael Moore’s “Planet of the Humans”, highlighted this egregious activity, plus the fossil fuel back-up of wind and solar (I realize you are okay with the latter).

Poor Michael, a once beloved hero of the woke left, has been ‘cancelled’ for this, but I believe the docu did lead to a quiet attenuation of this method of saving the planet. It also seems to have abruptly terminated the activities of Bill McKibbin, vocal creator of the romantically hopeless 350.org.

Griff, you seem to be a logical and decent person who got wrapped up in the CAGW cause maybe even born into it. But are you a pragmatic one? Since ‘The West’ is the only sector that is doing anything seriously about zeroing CO2 at great cost to their economies while the rest of the world is vigorously persuing a fossil fuel future to alleviate poverty, do you understand that we are going to, like it or not, keep puffing out CO2 at a galloping rate, even if the West stops all CO2 emissions under its control?

We are bound to do the Big CO2 experiment! We will know what good or harm 500ppm CO2 will do. We know, at least that it’s greening the planet and conserving water and its inhabitant creatures must be fareing better. Ask yourself what is the point of spending hundreds of trillions of dollars to no effect? Does this not have the blight of an even greater idiocy than burning forests at Drax?

Russell
April 11, 2021 11:54 pm

Can I pay my taxes to India from now on?

Reply to  Russell
April 12, 2021 12:30 am

India may be skittish about accepting anyone from a climate jihadist nation. You might turn out to be a sleeper agent.

commieBob
Reply to  AndyHce
April 12, 2021 4:47 am

There is bitter experience of what happens when jurisdictions accept migrants from the wrong place.

Californicate: verb – The act of migration from California to other states in search of cheaper housing, better morals, and lack of gangs, drugs, prostitution, etc. Instead, they drive up house prices whereever they move to, and bring their low morals, gangs, drugs, and prostitution to the other states.

link

Fortunately, the chances of India being subverted by Californian migration are vanishingly small.

Bryan A
Reply to  Russell
April 12, 2021 5:40 am

Absolutely, they have Mock Websites that tell you your computer is locked and to contact Microsoft to have it unlocked and cleaned up (Ransom ware) just contact their number and feel free to donate.

griff
April 12, 2021 12:10 am

‘India is just one of an increasing number of “developing” nation which have recognized that the mad rush toward a “net zero carbon” economy does not serve the interests of their ordinary citizens’

No, on the contrary, India is one of the last few countries even contemplating new coal plant.

And if you look, India is pushing hard on renewable energy – just look up its wind and solar targets, review the decreasing price of bids in its numerous solar capacity auctions.

Yes, it is (again) boosting domestic coal incentives: because it wants to decrease the amount it imports, not to fuel expansion. It has tried and failed on this before.

In 2019, the states of Gujarat and Chhattisgarh, the latter of which is home to India’s third-largest coal reserves, announced that they will not build any new coal generating facilities. Late in 2020, Indian power minister R.K. Singh said that the generating capacity from 29 coal plants scheduled to retire in the coming years would be replaced entirely by renewables. India may have passed peak coal share in its electricity mix in 2018. Energy think tank Ember reports that the share of coal-based electricity has been on the decline since 2018. In 2020, the share of coal power declined by 5%, taking the total decline in its share since 2018 to 8%. The decline in 2020 was due to a mix of a slowdown in economic activity due to the COVID lockdown and a rise in solar and wind energy generation. With the decline in generation at coal-based power plants, their plant load factor also fell to a record low of 53%.

Mr.
Reply to  griff
April 12, 2021 10:38 am

Well, I just read that the renewables industry body is hoping to have 55% of total installed power generation capacity of India by 2030.

(So, dividing that by 3 to conclude what this will actually contribute to usable power, let’s say 18%)

Gas is heading for 13% of generated power for India already.

The rest is coal.

You can do the arithmetic to figure out where this is going Griff.

Chris Hanley
April 12, 2021 1:04 am

In anticipation of griff or loydo spouting cr@p from Carbon Brief or similar websites, according to the IEA coal is growing as a fuel for electricity generation while renewables (mostly bio-waste) are declining in India.
Solar and wind account for a tiny fraction of the renewable sources.
https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/electricity-mix-in-india-january-december-2020

LdB
Reply to  Chris Hanley
April 12, 2021 4:58 am

Griff will come along to sprout some pie in the sky plan to build billions of wind turbines promoted by some dubious source trying to get it’s snout in the gravy train. We all know how it ends.

Lets take the latest GFG Alliance the champions of the sustainable Industry
https://www.gfgalliance.com/
Now in the court over $10B insolvency claim and the whole deck of cards likely to go down.

Antonym
April 12, 2021 1:10 am

The Biden fronted administration is dumb: armtwisting India in the zero carbon camp can well result in that crucial nation to join the carbon rational club of Russia, PR China and Iran.
The pampered EU population is easily fooled, but poor Indians want their reliable -grid!- electricity finally.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Antonym
April 12, 2021 8:02 am

Biden and the other Leftists always think they are speaking for everyone. Their arrogance knows no bounds, and it won’t go over well with other nations.

Mariner
April 12, 2021 1:54 am

I was asked the other day if I am concerned about the future of my grandchildren in a climate changing world. My reply was that I am very concerned but not about the effects of climate change. I am concerned that if we do not stop the Western green new deal my grandkids are going to live in a 3rd world country. China, India and SE Asia in general are going to be top dogs while the dumb, dumb West is going to be grateful for the scraps.

Klem
Reply to  Mariner
April 12, 2021 2:45 am

You’re not alone harboring those concerns, Mariner.

April 12, 2021 3:20 am

On India visit, Kerry to push for cutting fossil fuel imprint
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/on-india-visit-kerry-to-push-for-cutting-fossil-fuel-imprint-101617573330831.html
From article :
…former climate negotiator and ambassador, Chandrashekhar Dasgupta, said in an interview to HT that achieving net zero emissions by the 2050s would be a challenge. “First, it would require us to immediately scrap all existing coal-based power plants and factories, or alternatively, retrofit them with carbon capture and storage technology. This would entail astronomical costs at a time when the economy is already reeling from the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic. Second, it would hit our ‘Aatmanirbhar Bharat’ (self-reliance) policy. It would necessitate an immediate switchover to imported, existing clean energy technologies at huge cost, denying our own industry the time required for indigenisation or development of affordable indigenous technologies… Third, we need to examine the trade-related implications of surrendering our principled position on common and differentiated responsibilities (CBDR).” He recommended that India should not bind itself to a global date on achieving net zero emissions.

Could it simply be that the global oligarchy cannot accept a self-reliance policy, Aatmanirbhar Bharat ?
In other words the entire OSOWOG green boondoggle anti-BRI gibberish, is only about subjugation of the 2 largest countries , India and China , by the utterly bankrupt transatlantic fading empire attempting a green hyper bubble, last gasp.

Reply to  bonbon
April 12, 2021 3:45 am

Jawaharlal Nehru later said that his policy for Indian independence of swodeshi (boycott of British goods and development of Indian production) was based on his observation of Sinn Fein in that period when Nehru lived in London as a graduate student.

Irish Sinn Fein means self-reliance.

And their founder took German economist List’s American System of Political Economy as inspiration, as did Bismark.

Trump campaigned on the American System, the first since McKinley (assassinated), and look at the onslaught that occurred! Expect a major onslaught against China and India for daring to dump the green boondoggle.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
April 12, 2021 8:09 am

“Expect a major onslaught against China and India for daring to dump the green boondoggle.”

India and China don’t seem to be dumping anything. They are following the rules as laid down in the Paris Climate Accord. Neither nation is violating the agreements they made. The agreements they made put very few restrictions on what they do with regard to CO2. The International Community gave them a legal pass. They are in compliance.

Jon R
Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 8:47 am

Downvote for lack of sincerity.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jon R
April 13, 2021 2:41 pm

Lack of sincerity? I don’t get it.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 13, 2021 9:03 am

Kerry’s visit to India was a flop – he faces another soon in China. Prince Charles´ poor messenger boy, very un-American, trying to sell the Great Reset.

Reply to  bonbon
April 12, 2021 8:46 am

The so-called American System originated in the 19th century Whig party’s (Henry Clay) plan to use tariff revenues on European manufactured goods to protect industries, while paying for canals, railroads and other improvements (boondoggles), all predominantly located in the North. Besides raising costs to all US consumers, it hampered Southern exports, and was a primary factor in all of the subsequent unpleasantness.

That an autocrat like Bismarck should find such an economically centralizing system attractive is not surprising. However, what I saw with Trump’s use of tariffs was actually an attempt to reverse the adverse economic effects of previous centralized trade deals and regulations, all of which resulted in a huge outflow of US manufacturing in addition to the ongoing assault on reliable energy in favor of green energy madness.

While it would be great to see a roll-back of centralized energy planning here in the US, I wonder if the catalyst for doing so might come from other nations nullifying globalists’ dictates of how they should power their lives.

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 13, 2021 8:59 am

It is Alexander Hamilton´s system, well documented by Friedrich List. There he shows how Britain in fact hid their use of national economics, preaching free trade to subjugated colonies. Calling their bluff is what is about. Bismarck´s advisor made this known – and Bismarck well knew in 1899 Britain would start a 7-years war, we know as WW1. Germany and the USA, and Meiji Japan, rocketed to leading economies after Lincoln defeated Britain´s CSA agro plantation slave economy.
Today the Great Reset, from Prince Charles his Royal self, is a last ditch effort to reverse major industrial development, known as the BRI. And using Ukraine to start war is the ploy, yet again. Hey, the oligarchy never claimed to be creative!

fretslider
April 12, 2021 5:29 am

Half of the Indian population still goes….. in the fields. And even that [apparently natural setting] has its problems. Like gang rape.

India really does have a mountain to climb. Good luck to them.

S.K.
Reply to  fretslider
April 12, 2021 10:30 am

How much untreated human waste ends up in the Arabian sea and Bay of Bengal?

How many Indians are without clean water?

Affordable energy will go a long way to solving some of their sanitation issues which probably kills far more than air pollution from fossil fuel power plants.

Super critical boilers have the ability to clean up the coal emissions.

April 12, 2021 6:48 am

Energy poverty is among the most crippling but least talked-about crises of the 21st century. Billions live with little to no access to electricity. Electricity is the one of the simplest solutions to improved health, economic opportunity, education, nutrition, and comfort in the developing world, especially for women and girls.

New Book brings Clarity to a World without Fossil Fuels.  Before 1900 and the products from petroleum, life was hard and dirty and life expectancy was short.

Summary: The release of ‘Just GREEN Electricity’ brings simplicity and clarity about understanding a world without fossil fuels. The inventions of the automobile, airplane, and the use of petroleum in the early 1900’s led us into the Industrial Revolution and victories in World War I and II. The ‘aha moment’ for every green advocate is that intermittent electricity from wind or solar cannot produce any of the more than 6,000 products manufactured from petroleum derivatives that did not exist before 1900, that are the basis of lifestyles and economies worldwide.

 
https://www.cfact.org/2020/08/15/new-book-brings-clarity-to-a-world-without-fossil-fuels/
 

Reply to  Ronald Stein
April 12, 2021 1:10 pm

Agreed about energy poverty and I don’t want to detract from the importance of what you are highlighting but you are masking a major human achievement that the MSM chose to ignore. The percentage of the world that has access to electricity has risen to 87%, which means only recently under 1 billion are without access to electricity and this continues to fall. I’m sure you know that it is Africa with the least access and it is China building coal fired power stations for them, while eco activists in the west try push renewables onto this continent to stop global warming.
BTW – 1″ of snow fell in Hampshire UK this morning.

Tim Twombly
April 12, 2021 6:50 am

I hope the “Third World” is successful at burning more fossil fuel than so-called “advanced nations.”

For thousands of years atmospheric carbon dioxide has been plummeting, and we are now at the precarious point of losing all plant life within the next few hundred years. Burning more fossil fuels will delay the inevitable for a short time.

Coach Springer
April 12, 2021 7:10 am

The elites will not stop at shaming. They will (because they now run the show from the US to the UN to large corporations) also pursue punitive economics and sanctions to a degree we can only wish that Obama had applied to Iran’s nuclear ambitions. The question is the degree to which China thinks it advantageous to create Chinese supported energy independence in a Chinese-led world.

Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 7:54 am

From the article: “The Bloomberg trio further claimed that “officials close to Prime Minister Narenda Modi” were drawing up plans to achieve the net-zero target by 2050 – a full decade ahead of China – which says it intends to finally cap its CO2 emissions at whatever level they have reached by 2060, after four more decades of growth.”

Don’t you love it! This is the deal the Obama-Biden administration made. In order to get China to sign on to the Paris Climate Accord, Obama-Biden didn’t require the Chicoms to do anything about their CO2 output. The Chicoms got a free ride. They are still getting a free ride because people are afraid to confront them.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
April 12, 2021 1:17 pm

Indeed. Here are the number of Coal fired power stations in various countries with the numbers in bold signifying planned and population size in brackets:
…….4……….0….UK…………………..(66,600,000)
…..19…….60….Philippines …(108,100,000)
…..56…….93….Turkey …………..(82,000,000)
…..58…….26….South Korea …(51,710,000)
…..79…….24….South Africa …(58,560,000)
…..90…….45….Japan …………(126,300,000)
…241………4…..US ………………(328,200,000)
…468…….27…..EU ……………..(446,000,000)
…589…..446….India ……….(1,366,000,000)
2,363..1171….China ……..(1,398,000,000)

markl
April 12, 2021 8:03 am

The President of Mexico, Obrador, just announced they will revert back to relying on coal for their energy needs.

TRM
April 12, 2021 8:40 am

Also ignoring the WHO and deploying Ivermectin. The province of Uttar Pradesh with 230 million people crammed into an area 1/3 the size of Texas has about 9,000 COVID deaths. They switched from HCQ to Ivermectin last August when it was obvious that it was THE cure and a prophylactic of epic proportions.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TRM
April 13, 2021 2:18 pm

It would be interesting to see a report comparing the effectiveness of hydroxycholoriquine and ivermectin.

I have both in my medicine cabinet. 🙂

April 12, 2021 10:39 am

Hans Rosling pointed out that dividing countries into developed and developing is no longer useful or accurate (or words to the effect).
A while back a colleague that worked at Heathrow told me that about a third of retail revenue came from a demographic that accounted for only 1% of the passengers – wealthy Chinese tourists. China’s middle class is over 700,000,000 while India’s is 350,000,000. The UK’s middle class is about 40,000,000. In addition there are over 100,000,000 wealthy Chinese.
While much is made of ‘inequality’ it is important to note that the number of mobile phones in 76 countries is either slightly more or less then each countries population, irrespective of each countries economic ranking, so that Nigeria, Pakistan and Bangladesh (for example) each have twice as many mobile phones than the UK.
And from the Guardian 13/12/2018:
China called on rich countries to “pay their debts” on climate change at global talks on Thursday, criticising developed countries for not doing enough to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and provide finance to help poor countries do the same.

April 12, 2021 10:58 am

Hans Rosling pointed out that dividing countries into developed and developing is no longer useful or accurate (or words to the effect).
A while back a colleague that worked at Heathrow told me that about a third of retail revenue came from a demographic that accounted for only 1% of the passengers – wealthy Chinese tourists.
Here are various sizes of middle class of 4 countries and showing % of population:
China .700,000,000 (58%)
India….350,000,000 (50%)
US …….165,000,000 (52%)
UK’s …….40,000,000 (59%)
In addition there are over 100,000,000 wealthy Chinese.

While much is made of ‘inequality’ it is important to note that the number of mobile phones in 76 countries is either slightly more or less then each countries population, irrespective of each countries economic ranking, so that Nigeria, Pakistan and Bangladesh (for example) each have twice as many mobile phones than the UK.
And from the Guardian 13/12/2018:
China called on rich countries to “pay their debts” on climate change at global talks on Thursday, criticising developed countries for not doing enough to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and provide finance to help poor countries do the same.

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Reply to  Stephen Skinner
April 12, 2021 11:13 am

China gets very irate when you call them a 3rd world developing country, pointing out the growing military, space program, growing middle class, etc.

Unless its about co2 targets, then they are 3rd world all the way.

TRM
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
April 12, 2021 6:14 pm

Of course. Did you expect anything else from a bunch who’ve haggled for everything every day of their lives? They were probably waiting for the counter offer and then everyone else just caved in. They were probably shocked at first “That was too easy”. After repeating it 10 times with the same results they are now convinced that the west is run by idiots.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  TRM
April 13, 2021 2:20 pm

“After repeating it 10 times with the same results they are now convinced that the west is run by idiots.”

And they are correct, the West is currently run by idiots. The West is making it too easy for our enemies.

Antonym
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
April 13, 2021 7:40 am

PR China loves to be a “developing” nation only at the WTO as there they still get these same export /import benefits as 30 years ago.

Steve Z
April 12, 2021 1:14 pm

[QUOTE FROM ARTICLE]”The zeal for climate stasis by those currently at the top of the pyramid is such that some have even proposed permanently darkening the sky to stop the imagined heat from killing us!”

La Soufriere (the volcano on the island of St. Vincent) is doing a good job of darkening the sky without any human help.

[QUOTE FROM ARTICLE] “Even so, “Modi will also need to navigate potential pushback from inside his government” in order to achieve the targets demanded by such dignitaries as US “Climate Envoy” John Kerry.”

The best thing John Kerry could do for the climate is stop using his private jet, which would have far more effect than anything he could say to the Chinese or Indians (who won’t heed his advice anyway). Oh, by the way, his family just used it to fly from Massachusetts to Idaho. Is there really an urgent climate change problem in Idaho, or does his family enjoy the skiing there? There are also commercial flights to Boise and Pocatello, Idaho.

Herbert
April 12, 2021 5:56 pm

The UN Key Principle-
“Common but Differentiated Responsibilities and Respective Capabilities”.
See BBC News: Climate Change:Net Zero emissions are ‘Pie in the Sky’.” 30 March 2021, discussed in the recent WUWT post.
That is all we need to know.
The deal for developing nations (165) is that they may prefer economic development over any environmental obligations, with developed nations (28) paying the cost of combatting climate change and “saving the planet”,and righting the “historical wrong”of the Industrial Revolution.
This agreement was reached over 35 years ago in Villach,Austria to bring developing countries into the tent.
Thus President Imrân Khan of Pakistan wants at least $400 billion annually for developing countries and the Indian Minister says commitments from developed countries are not sufficient and they must bring to the table “negative carbon technology”,which may or may not exist at scale.
Developing countries submit fictitious INDCs which they almost all ignore, as do the developed countries.
The charade continues under President Biden on Earth Day,22 April, and then on to Glasgow, with “climate czar”John Kerry.
Meanwhile Greta Thunberg is reported as upbraiding AOC because the Green New Deal is “insufficient”!

April 12, 2021 6:55 pm

As others have noted, the Indians like the Chinese can do absolutely nothing for the next 30-40 years, growing emissions at their current rate, and they will not breach their “Paris commitments”, because they have none.
When challenged the climate scientologists spout endlessly on how Xi is committed to renewables, a joke that I won’t participate in.
But the point is that if #s 1 and 3 in world emissions are able to grow without official complaint, then the authors of the accord truly don’t care about emissions.

It’s all a farce
They make sounds about it but seems just for show

observa
April 13, 2021 3:27 am

It just needs some straight shooting that everyone understands-
Australians shouldn’t have to ‘look out the window’ to turn the stove on: Keith Pitt (msn.com)

So essentially India and China (and probably Africa) are a global majority forming the consensus that there’s no problems with fossil fuels. After all latest reports show China producing 52% of the world’s coal fired power and here’s India following suit. There’s the majority global consensus you seek and applaud so regularly doomsters so stop being in minority denial.

April 13, 2021 9:16 am

Odd that OSOWOG got no mention – this is the sham anti-BRI scheme Kerry is peddling. It was mothballed in 2018 but Kerry dusted if off and is gone carpetbagging.

By the way it´s One Sun, One World, One Grid’ (OSOWOG) .
Anyone ever hear the Sun never sets in the British Empire?
Or the old song Only mad dogs and Englishmen sit out in the noon-day sun?
Needs a new chorus, I´ll say.

Steve Garcia
April 15, 2021 5:49 pm

I am a WUWT reader from about 16 years ago. I have been gone for maybe 6 or 8 years ago, with only rare forays since then. I am a social liberal and a science conservative. I have long appreciated the technical side of WUWT and learned a LOT here,

One thing I don’t like is the editorializing andpoliticizing of what is a scientific issue. Yes, the Michael Manns of the alarmists go whole hog on politically and financially to their advantage. I think WUWT articles that can’t stick to science basically suck and are counterproductive. This article takes every opportunity to use pejorative terms to try to make its point, when a straight telling of their side of the science would IMHO do a good job of it.

I literally said to myself that enough is enough, and I stopped reading it. The guy can’t leave it alone. He HAS to clobber the other side at every turn. It shows a slant that is disgusting in my view – WHEN I STARTED OUT ON HIS SIDE.

If Anthony wants to have his side fight like this, I don’t get it. As I’ve always seen it, the point of WUWT is to argue that the science says the other side is wrong. Good. Fight bad science with good science. This name calling is a turn off.

Oh, now that I have returned I do intend to keep coming. But attacking articles like this one won’t get my eyes, past the first few paragraphs. So, to some extent Anthony loses some percentage of my reading. It hasn’t been much for a long time – TOO long, actually. But, Anthony, I am back. And glad to BE back, even if this one was onerous to me.