The Southern California Colby wildfire and ‘climate change’

While not a full-bore media hype yet, there are the beginnings of chatter on blogs and Twitter that the Colby fire in Southern California might somehow be related to “climate change”.  NASA MODIS has this image and explanation:

Colby Fire Near Los Angeles, California

A wildfire started and spread quickly in the foothills northeast of Los Angeles on January 16, 2014. The plume of ash and smoke blanketed much of the metropolitan area and prompted air quality warnings.

The Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) on NASA’s Terra and Aqua satellites captured this images of the Colby fire:


According to InciWeb, the fire started around 6 a.m. Pacific Time on January 16 in Angeles National Forest near Glendora, California. As of 3 p.m. local time, nearly 500 firefighters were working the fire, which had destroyed 1,700 acres and at least two homes. Fire officials were concerned about gusty winds and extremely low humidity that could promote fire growth.

References:

  1. InciWeb: Incident Information System (2014, January 16) Colby Fire. Accessed January 16, 2014.
  2. Los Angeles Times (2014, January 26) Colby fire: Plume of smike, ask prompts air quality advisories. Accessed January 16, 2014.
  3. Los Angeles Times (2014, January 26) Wildfire near L.A.: Firefights brace for wind gusts, heat. Accessed January 16, 2014.

NASA image by Holli Riebeek and courtesy LANCE/EOSDIS MODIS Rapid Response Team at NASA GSFC. Caption by Michael Carlowicz.

Source: http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/colby-fire-near-los-angeles-california/

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So before we get into the blame game of climate change, it might be worth noting that it appears the fires were started by some pothead campers.

Three men arrested in accidentally setting the highly-dangerous Colby Fire plaguing Southern California were found with pot in their backpacks, according to local reports. They are being held on $500,000 bail, according to police Sergeant Michael Hammond at the Glendora Police Department. According to Police Chief Tim Staab, the three men did not set the fire purposefully: “It wasn’t an arson. They are charged with a crime but part of it is criminal stupidity.”

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/3-arrested-ca-fire-had-pot-backpacks

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88 thoughts on “The Southern California Colby wildfire and ‘climate change’

  1. Homeless folks campfire got out of control…

    Three men accused of lighting a campfire that grew into the destructive Colby Fire were behind bars with bail amounts of $500,000 each late Thursday, officials said.

    Clifford Eugene Henry, 22, of Glendora, Jonathan Carl Jarrell, 23, of Irwindale and Steven Robert Aguirre, 21, a transient whose last known address was in Los Angeles, were booked on suspicion of unlawfully causing a fire of a structure or forest land…

    “It wasn’t an arson,” Staab said. “They are charged with a crime but part of it is criminal stupidity.”

    The men had grown cold and placed more paper into a campfire when the fire grew out of control.

  2. Glad you had the part about the campers, I just heard it on the news. I hope no one is injured by this stupidity.

  3. Blaming AGW is all the rage with the eco-loon warmistas here in Australia. They have to get themselves in the msm somehow and the ‘science’ is running a bit low these days. Come to think of it, a bunch of potheads or ex potheads are to blame for the whole CAGW warmista thing anyway.

  4. 1700 acres? Really? 1700?

    This is 6 orders of magnitude smaller than the area burnt annually, BEFORE California was settled.

  5. “Fire plaguing Southern California were found with pot in their backpacks, “

    Yes, they were so upset about the global warming problem they were driven to pot smoking… which dulled their senses and led to the fire. So there you have it. Climate change *is* responsible.

  6. I had heard on the news this morning that they potheads were throwing paper into the fire, before it got away from them.

  7. This is not going to go over well with the other massive advocacy BS group that promoted Pot for all great and wonderful, harmless purposes over the years. Call it the clash of the advocacy BS titans.

  8. How old are those homeless-by-choice guys anyway?

    Didn’t they watch any Saturday morning cartoons when they were little kids? We saw stuff like this ALL the time. (they handed out comic books at school, too, for cryin’ out loud)

    Guess their memories need refreshing, so……………
    Yo, weed dudes. Listen up: “Remember, only YOU can prevent forest fires.”
    Smokey Bear

  9. “This is not going to go over well with the other massive advocacy BS group that promoted Pot for all great and wonderful, harmless purposes over the years. Call it the clash of the advocacy BS titans.”

    Won’t make an issue out of it except to briefly note that many of you Conservative types like to scream bloody murder over government interference when it suits you, but draconian drug laws are perfectly fine. I never could wrap my mind around this paradox. Let’s throw people in prison for smoking a plant that grows in nature. It that’s not an infringement of civil rights, I don’t know what is…

  10. Too bad there is never any details provided about what exactly is burning by the alarmists? Is it because it is the chaparral that is burning, an ecoregion that exists because of wildfire in the first place?

  11. Didn’t the governor just declare a statewide drought emergency? I lived in CA for more than 40 years and cannot remember a statewide declaration, although I do remember mandatory rationing in Santa Cruz County in the early to mid 90’s.

  12. pokerguy says:

    January 17, 2014 at 11:42 am
    “This is not going to go over well with the other massive advocacy BS group that promoted Pot for all great and wonderful, harmless purposes over the years. Call it the clash of the advocacy BS titans.”

    Won’t make an issue out of it except to briefly note that many of you Conservative types like to scream bloody murder over government interference when it suits you, but draconian drug laws are perfectly fine. I never could wrap my mind around this paradox. Let’s throw people in prison for smoking a plant that grows in nature. It that’s not an infringement of civil rights, I don’t know what is…

    Agreed. Blaming a wildfire on pot is as bad as simply pointing at AGW. I’m quite certain human stupidity and carelessness was around well before flower power.

  13. Robert W Turner says:
    January 17, 2014 at 11:46 am
    “Let’s throw people in prison for smoking a plant that grows in nature. It that’s not an infringement of civil rights, I don’t know what is…”

    As long as they give up their driving license I’m fine with it.

  14. “the fire, which had destroyed 1,700 acres”

    That’s one destructive fire! Imagine, acres gone (destroyed); never to be able to be used again.

    (/sarc)

  15. Reminds me of 2011, fire at Rainbow Festival in Israel (Greenpeace organized) (before Rainbow==LSBTTQI) (and after Rainbow==symbol of the SHAEF)
    “Environmentalists – don’t you just love ‘em? 42 dead, 15,000 acres of forest and its inhabitants
    annihilated, but little Miss Holier Than Thou’s toilet paper ecologically disposed of.” (that quote is from a now defunct page and not in the following article but it wraps up things nicely.)

    http://www.jpost.com/GreenIsrael/PEOPLEANDTHEENVIRONMENT/Article.aspx?id=195702

  16. Realist:
    More people – more fire bugs
    – more potheads
    – more campers
    – more campfires
    – more accidents
    – more wildfires

    Alarmist:
    MORE CO2 = MORE WILDFIRES !!!!

  17. Oh, i get it. Since AGW can’t be blamed anymore, the fire is all Conservatives’ fault for making arcane anti- pot laws.

  18. philjourdan says:
    January 17, 2014 at 11:49 am

    Actually, the fire is “anti-global warming” as the men were:

    The trio had been sitting around a campfire “trying to stay warm,” Staab said, when a “gust of wind came up.”

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-colby-fire-update-20140116,0,6021283.story#ixzz2qgehlQ3k

    ________________________
    How quickly they forget… everything is due to global warming and that includes cold weather.

  19. “As long as they give up their driving license I’m fine with it.”

    OK, but are you prepared to do the same for people who have a cocktail or two before dinner? How about cell phone users?

    I’m not necessarily disagreeing, although there’s simply no contest when it comes to which is more debilitating to a driver’s skills…booze beats pot out by a long, long way.

  20. philjourdan says:
    January 17, 2014 at 12:09 pm

    @Alan Robertson – My mistake. I forgot freezing to death was due to AGW.
    ___________________
    Oh, but it is- it is.

  21. 1) I believe that they are not allowed to keep a fire break around their houses, which is why they get burned down every time a fire passes through. This is just plain stupid and criminal.

    2) They do not allow enough regular clearing of underbrush and dead material to keep fires from becoming raging fires.

    3) How many people realize that the canyon homes are not insurable? To cover these idiots living in a natural fire path, the government made the insurance companies start a pool of funds to cover these idiots. So, the normal people living in logically safe places are funding, with their inflated premiums, the idiots living in the canyons. Now, that’s a subsidy one can take to the bank, literally.

  22. I predicted the MSM would soon start talking about the phenomenon occurring on the Sun. Today it’s linked on DrudgeReport.com, biggest news aggregate in the world.

    The way MSM controls you is simple, they gatekeep information from the general public. That’s why they’re your enemy #1. Many people have figured that out and get their information from the internet these days. That’s what scares them the most.

    Has the Sun gone to sleep?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-25771510

  23. “I see your hair is burnin’
    Hills are filled with fire
    If they say I never loved you
    You know they are a liar”

    the Doors, 1971
    the hills burn regularly.

  24. See, if CA would just legalize it, they wouldn’t have had to go out in the woods to smoke their weed and this fire would never have happened….

  25. but wow. this is not the first time i’ve been seriously impressed with commenters here.
    blame fire on immigrants or on pot?
    so sad to see the cup of stupidity runneth over even at wuwt.

  26. Be objective. Look at most of California’s countryside. If it isn’t irrigated, it is dry, brown desert. It doesn’t have ‘dry spells’ – dry is normal. It has very occasional rainfall (wet spells?) but is otherwise dry.

    The canyon lands, gully washes, salt pans, and dry outflow plains all speak to very occasional rains that can cause short duration, water driven erosion and flooding followed by very extended periods of normal, dry weather. Of course, it is susceptible to fire. It is normally dry.

  27. pokerguy says January 17, 2014 at 11:42 am

    Let’s throw people in prison for smoking a plant that grows in nature. It that’s not an infringement of civil rights, I don’t know what is…

    The ‘next’ devolutionary step? – Refinement into ‘Honey Oil’ also known as hash oil or Butane Hash Oil (‘BHO’ oddly enough). Take 30 to 40 ‘hits’ all day long with each as effective as the previous vs simple ‘weed’ tokes which fail to ‘reward’ after a bit. Meet the new republic; much like the old opium dens of China …

    Posted strictly in the interest of education and discussion:

    “BUTANE HASH OIL” – watch the vid at this link … very ‘enlightening’ look at this coming culture

    http://www.vice.com/weediquette-show/butane-hash-oil

    ‘Do you own and – risk the neighborhood?’

    http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/02/hash-oil-explosion/

    ‘Butane Hash Oil: The Future of Pot”

    http://www.miaminewtimes.com/2013-10-24/news/bho-butane-hash-oil/

    .

  28. phodges says:
    January 17, 2014 at 11:13 am

    “It wasn’t an arson,” Staab said. “They are charged with a crime but part of it is criminal stupidity.”
    The men had grown cold and placed more paper into a campfire when the fire grew out of control.

    There you have it. Global warming can cause criminal stupidity. Once it is done, it makes you grow cold. The rest is history.

  29. gnomish says:
    January 17, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    but wow. this is not the first time i’ve been seriously impressed with commenters here.
    blame fire on immigrants or on pot?
    so sad to see the cup of stupidity runneth over even at wuwt.
    ____________________
    You are on it, you are sooo on it. After all, everyone knows global warming is to blame. What’s wrong with these skeptic commenters here at WUWT?

  30. For most of us, learning science meant mastering a body of known facts and related concepts that had been accumulated over the last few hundred years, especially the last 60 or so. That’s not how science is to be taught any more in any country but especially not under the new Common Core Next Generation Science Standards or the new C-3 Social Studies Standards in the US. Instead students are to be provided with conceptual lenses and Big Ideas that they are to apply to any ambiguous or undetermined situation. Facts are merely something offered to reenforce the supplied concepts.

    Hyping all weather events that have disturbing visuals to CAGW taps into the seeds deliberately being created in K-12 classrooms for just that purpose. There’s even a behavioral science name for the desired mindset-obuchenie from the Russian psychologists who researched this as a political useful way to push ideological thinking without it being apparent. Working hand in hand with the media to disseminate the desired concepts is no accident. Each of the reports laying out how to see Sustainability usually has a section on the media strategy.

    We just have to better appreciate how media and education are being deliberately used now to sell false beliefs that necessitate an ever increasing public sector.

  31. Are illegal aliens only of one race? How in the WORLD was Mark (and his two cats) being “racist?” (rhetorical Q only, gnome — I could not care less what you say in response)

    Re: characterizing these guys as “homeless guys,” (with its sympathetic connotations): How much marijuana was in those backpacks? Sounds like they may just be common variety drug dealers.

    @ Poker Guy (with a big smile): So, … pot does a lot but liquor is quicker, eh? Been doing some experiments (just joking)?

    Say, are you now coming to us from Florida? Hope your move goes smoothly (whenever it happens).

  32. how could homeless guys pot cause a fire today when there were fires in the past before there were homeless guys who smoked pot?

    or maybe we cant understand what causes a fire today by looking at all past fires. maybe we can understand what causes warming today without understanding what caused warming in the past. maybe many things cause fires and many things cause warming and the study of history isnt all that illuminating about what causes are working today.

  33. gnomish says:

    January 17, 2014 at 12:40 pm

    but wow. this is not the first time i’ve been seriously impressed with commenters here.
    blame fire on immigrants or on pot?
    so sad to see the cup of stupidity runneth over even at wuwt.
    ————
    Kinda gotta agree.
    Although in all my youthful bonfires/parties I’ve never started a forest fire.
    There is still time ? :)

  34. Who knew cold campers might start a fire to stay warm? The biggest surprise is that a news media outlet might report that fact.

  35. @ Dirk H. — 12pm today — GREAT article. Yes, indeed, it summarizes the entire disgusting Envirostalinist movement in one story. The journalist was obviously sympathetic to the Enviro-cultist, labeling her intentions: “good” instead of the far more accurate “misguided,” or, better yet, “ignorant.” Thanks for sharing the link.

  36. Blaming CAGW is being peddled hard during this summer in Australia by all Warmistas. The recent bushfire in Western Australia, which burnt 52 houses, was produced by termites felling an illegally constructed power pole and its line in someone’s back yard, creating arcing and sparking. His house was burnt first and then others later. No Science is involved in the ‘proof’ of CAGW being to blame, as Warmistas live in a science free zone.

  37. The Pacific Ocean temperature anomaly (Pacific Gyre located at N42, W145) is at 4.5C. This enormous amount of excessively warm ocean water is redirecting the Jet Stream [heat upwelling]. The redirected Jet Stream moves the moisture north preventing winter snow in California.

    The Pacific Ocean has been warming since 1650 until now [due to the Sun]. The Sun has gone quiet and we have warm oceans and cool continents. Until the Pacific Gyre loses it heat, the mountains of California will not get rain. Prepare for a burning hot summer.

  38. Hey Janice,

    Big smile right back atcha. TRuthfully, both my pot and booze days are behind me, though I’ve done my fair share and more over my lifetime. Always been a pretty fierce libertarian when it comes to what a person chooses to do with his or her own body. The “war on drugs” so-called has been a spectacular failure, which is not only not a surprise, it was entirely predictable. As predictable as the failure of “Prohibition,” which was of course a misguided attempt to outlaw booze…a drug… as surely as pot is…thought infinitely more destructive in its effects. So what happened during those years? Alcoholism increased, organized crime flourished, corruption was rampant, and otherwise good, law abiding people woke up one morning to find themselves considered criminals…

    Imvho, far greater damage is done by the proscriptions against drugs than the drugs themselves. All we need do is take a gander at Mexico where at last count some 60,000 innocent people have died…collateral damage in an insane war on the drug cartels. Does it not occur to these people that the cartels would not exist without the laws against individual drug use? 60,000 people!!

    Forgive the diatribe :-) Yes, writing from south Florida where to tell you the truth we could in the last few days use a bit more of that life sustaining blessing called global warming. Not cold compared to more northern climes of course, but 50’s and windy. If it’s not 80 and humid I’m not happy. My wife thinks I’m insane. I suppose she has a point…

  39. If they were drinking beer they could have used it to put out the fire. Beer! It’s not just for breakfast anymore.

  40. “The men had grown cold and placed more paper into a campfire when the fire grew out of control. ”

    Well there have it, global warming !

    If it wasn’t so damn cold, due to global warming, they would not have needed to light the fire.

    All roads lead to Rome. ;)

  41. …unless someone can make the claim that global warming is fueling the strong LaNina driving out current drought…

  42. Good to hear back from you, Poker Guy! What a joy it is when someone bothers to respond to me. 50’s and windy?!! That is HORRIBLE (given where you are). I would be pretty annoyed at….. at just oooooooooooooo………… . Just annoyed. You might as well be in Seattle (ugh).

    Well, before long, it will be lovely again, no doubt. Then……….. you can have fun in a hurricane! Wheeee. Weather is great, huh?

    Meh. Being insane’s not so bad…., not all it’s cracked up to be, but, not bad.
    #(:))

    btw: what Mrs. Guy is silently asking herself is: “And, am I insane to stay with him?” (smile, smile, smile!) Heh. Don’t worry — she would have gotten out a loooong time ago if she were ever going to.

    Take care and ENJOY FLORIDA!

    Janice

  43. This is supposed to be the rainy season — January is typically the wettest month in SoCal, and the hills are usually Irish-countryside green by now.

    Instead, it hasn’t rained a drop since the first week of December, and it’s been bouncing in and out of the eighties since Christmas. This really is “weird weather.” But it happens, and it’s a direct result of the same kink in the circumpolar vortex that’s been freezing the East. When they’re unusually cold and snowy, we’re unusually warm and dry.

  44. Doesn’t have to be intentional to be charged with felony arson in California. Simply having a camp stove flame get away from you in a red flag area will get you charged with arson. That actually happened to someone I know who was making some coffee on a camp stove and somehow got some nearby grass on fire. He got it put out but not before someone had called authorities. He was charged with felony arson as fires of ANY sort were not allowed in that area due to red flag warnings.

  45. One of the commentators on local L.A. TV kept going on about how we can expect more hot dry weather because scientists say there’s global warming. He mentioned it every time they went to him.

  46. I was just about to post the following comment but DirkH beat me to it. :)

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    This reminds me of the fire in Israel a few years back. It was initially blamed on ‘climate change’ but was found later to have been started by a Green who burned her toilet paper after use for the sake of the environment.

  47. Thanks, Janice. Always enjoy your lively contributions. And always respond to people I respect. Mrs. Guy no doubt thinks she made a mistake, but she’s stuck with me now. And yes, warmer times to come…here through March when average high toward end of month is 77. Speaking of insanity, I can likely tell you…without looking up of course…the average high temps for any given winter day. How obsessive is that, he asks rhetorically.

  48. MattN says:
    January 17, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    See, if CA would just legalize it, they wouldn’t have had to go out in the woods to smoke their weed and this fire would never have happened….

    No wildfires in Amsterdam.

  49. You know? I remember one of Lews’ observations pointed out that Skeptics believe that Princess Diana was murdered AND commit suicide at the same time. Needless to say the theory was completely demolished by ClimateAudit (http://climateaudit.org/2013/11/13/another-absurd-lewandowsky-correlation/)

    However, something interesting always pops up ..

    Global warming proponents seem to believe in many more than just two scenarios – global warming can produce extreme cold AND extreme heat at the same time. Perhaps Lew should consider writing another paper soon.

  50. Ann in L.A. says:
    January 17, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    One of the commentators on local L.A. TV kept going on about how we can expect more hot dry weather because scientists say there’s global warming. He mentioned it every time they went to him.

    What effect does a La Nina have on SoCal’s rain and heat? (It seems as though a La Nina might be in the process of forming.)

    California is the US state that warmed most last year, countering an overall cooling US trend, according to this recent WUWT thread:

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/16/ncdc-state-of-the-climate-report-contiguous-us-average-temperature-plummeted-2-9f-in-2013/

  51. @ Jimbo (re: 2:35pm) I have no doubt that you would, too. (not sarcastic) Heh, heh, you and Dirk, neck and neck, but, I think Gail is one car length ahead. btw: I was actually going to TRY to not post as often. Well, we can all see how long THAT New Year’s resolution lasted… .
    *********************************************************************

    Hm. I wonder why there are no wildfires in Amsterdam.

    (okay, okay, Mr. Knights, I get your point, but, being D.U.I. (whether alcohol or what-EVER) is likely to be a significant cause, here).

    I wonder…. if those drug dealers (or whatever they are) had been drunk instead of high if all the pro-mind-altering-drugs (not you, Poker Guy, you’re just libertarian) people would have jumped to the defense of the alcohol industry.
    Why defend the pot industry so vehemently, here?
    They were (if this is correct) high on dope.
    That was a contributing cause.
    We pointed that out.
    So — what? Why get THAT defensive about pot?

    We couldn’t say “those lousy stinking drunks,” you know.

  52. Horrible joke

    Do you know what’s great about dating the homeless?

    You can drop them off anywhere.

    Stupid laws don’t prevent stupid people, it seems to provoke them.

  53. Mr. Knights! What has gotten into my usually strongly anti-AGW ally?

    “California is the US state that warmed … .” Did it “warm” or was it just relatively warm? Was it warmer in CA in 2013 than in 2012? The NOAA map for 2012 has “115” on California. The 2013 map has “108.”

    Hoping all is well with you. Correct my grammar or spelling, okay (yes, indeed, you are good at editing and I regularly need it!)? Then I’ll know my ally Roger Knights is doing just fine. #(:))

    Janice

  54. @pokerguy. On a serious note I’m either a victim of over-reporting or Californians have developed an extreme tolerance to disaster. There seems to be an endless series of wind-fueled forest fires and landslides with the occasional earthquake just to make things interesting. It makes me wonder how people ever get insurance in these areas. No wonder they’re insistent on rolling their own.

  55. rogerknights says:
    January 17, 2014 at 2:41 pm

    MattN says:
    January 17, 2014 at 12:36 pm

    See, if CA would just legalize it, they wouldn’t have had to go out in the woods to smoke their weed and this fire would never have happened….

    No wildfires in Amsterdam.
    ———————————-
    Roger. Probably not much natural forest either.

  56. australia has more than it’s fair share of arsonists:

    17 Jan: Australian: AAP: Arsonists light Victorian urban fringe fires
    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay said police believe 12 of the 68 fires burning across the state were deliberately lit.
    Most of those fires were sparked on the urban fringes of Melbourne, including three grass fires in Epping, in the city’s north…

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/arsonists-light-vic-urban-fringe-fires/story-fn3dxiwe-1226804218933

    18 Jan: News Ltd: AAP Inside the deranged minds of Australia’s fire killers

    http://www.news.com.au/national/inside-the-deranged-minds-of-australias-fire-killers/story-fncynjr2-1226804590736

  57. To be fair, the evolution of global circulation to the point it is now at, may in fact be a type of climate change. After it, it is highly abnormal for the jet stream to be stuck in a meridional configuration for this long without either smooth or step wise retrograding. Now, if we consider just what sort of climate change might be implied, I suppose the warmistas might not like the outcome. Nor would most people.

  58. Steve from Rockwood says: No wildfires in Amsterdam. That is the dutch for you, built your country 20 ft below sea level.
    Fire starts,
    Open the dykes and there, no more fire
    Pump it dry and start all over again, been doing it for generations (LOL)

  59. pokerguy says:
    January 17, 2014 at 2:28 pm
    @Steve from Rockwood…
    Actually had me laughing out loud. As in ALOL…Very funny.

    Steve and pokerguy,
    Back about 1970, Anita Bryant was the spokeswoman for the Florida orange growers association. She was the first to issue the “Orange Juice, It isn’t just for breakfast anymore!” slogan. A beer company in Wisconsin ran a local parody ad of the orange juice commercial in Wisconsin. (I think it was Leinenkugels beer, might have been Point beer, fuzzy memories… too many beers?) “Leinenkugels, It’s not just for breakfast anymore!” was uttered by a quizzical faced guy in a Tee shirt on a TV ad.

    It was a good spoof… but I can’t find any reference to it now, only a memory from my high school years.

  60. “Part of it is criminal stupidity”? If that was a felony, half of congress would serve out mandatory life sentences.

  61. Hey, thank you for highlighting that they were “pothead campers”…..was it their pot that started the fire or their campfire?
    Because the hysterical “pothead” crap is all you reaply meant to expose….yes?

    And when fires are started by persons flicking their cigarette butts out of their window’s, as has happened over and over, do we get the headline “bitchstick suckers”?

    Truly though, if you can connect the pot in their backpacks to the fire on the ground, then use your ignorant ranting line. If you are just using the same line pushed in your truthrevolt story, you shouldn’t debase your intelligence in this way.

    Again………fires started by bitchstick smokers(how many?)=zero rants about bitchstick smokers.
    ……………….fires started by people with pot in their backpacks (fully 1)=silly and useless rant on pothead backpack weilding campers.

    WOW

  62. @Mac. I had forgotten where the saying came from. Interesting how things stick in your head. Thanks.

    Leinenkugels. Is there nothing it can’t do?

  63. lol, Mac (and Steve) — couldn’t find that ad, but, heeeeere ya go!

    “Beer’s Not Just for Breakfast Anymore”

  64. Please. It’s not the weather. It’s not the potheads.

    It’s the fuels.

    Weather doesn’t burn; fuels burn. In the case of wildfires, the fuel is plant matter. Fuel is a biological phenomenon. Fuel grows and accumulates every year.

    Thus, wildfires are BIOLOGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If you live blithe disregard next to a rat nest with 50 years of accumulated hardwood fuels reeking of creosote and other flammable hydrocarbons, and then your home burns down in a wildfire emanating from that rat nest, please don’t blame the neighbor children. It’s your own stupid fault.

  65. Global warming; is there anything it can’t do?
    Fires can only occur in the presence of oxygen and a fuel.
    Obviously as fires are increasing, everywhere across the face of the planet,according to the presstitutes of the MSM, it must be because of low slung oxygen, that well mixed excess CO2 is forcing innocent oxygen molecules down from near the ozone layer where they promote excess oxidation of surface materials.
    Soon our entire naval fleet will vanish into a pile of ferrous oxide.
    Civilization is doomed.
    There you go, the new fear of the Cult of Calamitous Carbon.
    Sure too be included as fact if there is a AR6.
    If this needs sarc… God help the needy.

  66. Mike Dubrasich says: @ January 18, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Please. It’s not the weather. It’s not the potheads.

    It’s the fuels.

    Weather doesn’t burn; fuels burn. In the case of wildfires, the fuel is plant matter. Fuel is a biological phenomenon. Fuel grows and accumulates every year.

    Thus, wildfires are BIOLOGICAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!….
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    At least someone has figured that out.

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