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Readers have been watching the Nenana Ice Cam via a post here on WUWT this weekend, waiting to see if a new record will be set for the latest ice-out ever. WUWT reader Geoff Shorten in South Africa has been watching and noted that there seems to be a transient lunar effect observed in the camera photos.
Watch the latest here: Nenana Ice Classic – closing in on all time record latest ice-out
UPDATE: see the timelapse video here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/20/timelapse-video-of-nenana-ice-classic-breakup-2013/
Lol a brown eye for the warmists.
What lunar effect? If there is any, in which direction?
Wait! What’s the criterion? It looks to me like there’s an open channel in the river. Are they waiting for the last bit of ice to be gone from along the shore?
I can presume that the man is the butt of this joke?
If anybody wonders…The black-and-white tripod trips the clock when it shifts on the river bank as the ice melts and starts to move in the current.
http://www.adn.com/2012/05/01/2447662/fairbanks-man-wins-entire-350000.html
Gene Selkov says:
May 20, 2013 at 9:35 am
The moon is rising by the truck …
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You jokers spooked me. I’ve been contemplating an experiment to measure the “lunar effect” on water. I’ve spent all day today designing a gismo to do that. Seriously.
At any rate, I wouldn’t have noticed anything out of the ordinary in this picture. Everything we see is a reconstruction of reality; mine tends to be faulty.
FYI…the “Lunar Effect” is next to the white Tacoma pickup truck….
lower, right hand corner….and appears to be a full moon….
TFF
I’ve looked through a number of pictures and it seems that the channel has opened and closed at least once in the last few days.
Wait? Is that James Hansen?
D.J. Hawkins says:
May 20, 2013 at 9:42 am
mib8 says:
May 20, 2013 at 9:39 am
Wait! What’s the criterion? It looks to me like there’s an open channel in the river. Are they waiting for the last bit of ice to be gone from along the shore?
I’ve looked through a number of pictures and it seems that the channel has opened and closed at least once in the last few days.
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Not to sure about the channel, butt there is a crack.
That crack is looking pretty wide
Obviously an attempted releasing of excessive potent greenhouse gases to speed up the break up!
Such releases are 20 times as deadly as the carbon dioxide in human breath, said 97% of those experiencing the releases right in front of their noses, according to a peer-reviewed study to be discussed soon at SkS.
When the tripod falls in then it is over.
MIB8 Said: “Wait! What’s the criterion? It looks to me like there’s an open channel in the river. Are they waiting for the last bit of ice to be gone from along the shore?”
When the ice was last measured on May 6th the ice was 40″ thick. While the water you see could easily be a channel, it could also be melt-water on top of the remaining ice.
In either case, it’s close to melting out.
Tripod is still there – temperature has risen to 38F (windchill 33F). Clear skies. I say it makes it. Only three hours to go!
mib8 says:
May 20, 2013 at 9:39 am
Wait! What’s the criterion? It looks to me like there’s an open channel in the river. Are they waiting for the last bit of ice to be gone from along the shore?
The big tripod is imbedded in the ice in the channel of the river. The dark patches you see is just puddles on top of the ice. When the ice goes out, it will take the tripod with it, the river has a wicked current this time of year, and you cannot mistake when the ice goes out.
I think it will go today or tomorrow.
That’s probably a guy coming home from the bar and stopped to water the flowers while looking at the half moon resulting in a full moon. Could the added warm water cause the ice to go out sooner? Gosh, this has been fun compared to the “discussions” that sometimes occur. Nice to see every one on the same page. Only 5 more months to ski season in the Northern Hemisphere. Have a great summer. Heading for Klawock, Alaska in a few weeks. Have a friend who just drove a 1928 Model A up there last week, open top, gave him a buffalo robe to keep warm and he already had a beaver coat. Life is good.
Well spotted, Geoff Shorten! South Africans are good at observing this transient lunar effect because we have a whole bunch of ****holes here in our government that want to introduce a ‘Carbon’ tax.
David– I was thinking it may have been Hansen next to the truck too, but the hat is wrong…..
Hansen always wears an Indiana Jones Wannabe hat, and the man is just wearing a regular baseball cap, which doesn’t fit Hansen’s fasion profile…
“David– I was thinking it may have been Hansen next to the truck too, but the hat is wrong….. ”
LOL!! Actually, Hansen was trying to find Alberta, Canada to stop that evil Keystone pipeline, but took a wrong turn in Anchorage…
The people here seeing all three legs of a tripod next to that full moon, obviously must be looking at a much higher resolution pic than I’m seeing.
No, I don’t want to see that version. Seriously.
Latest ice out everrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Unprecedennnnnnnnnted!
Flashy and apparently widely distributed.
NASA gives up on moon-shots, so others went for it.
I posted about it when I saw it last night after a nearly-last-for-the-night refresh.
Glad to see it got posted 🙂
There seems to be a similar transient lunar effect in this webcam snapshot from earlier today:
http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r707/ColoradoWellington/NenanaIceClassicWebcam20130520_zps2d7db38f.jpg
In a sense the new record is already set. More time has passed since venereal (spring) equinox this year than in 1964 until breakup.
Yep, it’s still friggin’ cold at the Anus Mundi, isn’t it…?
I’ll remember it as ” Moon River “
@Peter Berenyi:
Latest break-up after venereal equinox evah? Clap clap 😉
Would the climate sesitivity on that new moon be in the extreme range?
Sorry, it was more transient than I thought. It should be here:
http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r707/ColoradoWellington/CAGW/NenanaIceClassicWebcam20130520_zps2d7db38f.jpg
I think we should be looking for 12:41 pm AKDT. “The Nenana Ice Classic does not change to Daylight Savings Time. All times are Alaska Standard Time”
Might be Mann, tired to be the butt of hockey stick jokes and coining his own.
Since you have us all hooked, might I suggest a new Reference Page for the Nenana Ice Classic?
Watch for men in camouflage sneaking out to push the tripod over!! These will be the temperature adjuster-homogenizers fixing the Nenana record.
He couldn’t wait to be up at the crack of dawn, it seems.
As the only record that matters is the log of the Nenana Ice Classic, I guess we have a little less than two hours for a new record.
I always heard, When it’s spring, the saps are gonna rise.” But I stand corrected.
I see the “man’s best friend moon” too…
Then technically, one of the two is a blue moon.
It cracks me up.
OT. Online opinion poll.
To see it, you hav eto cliks on the down arrows of “Question du jour” (question of the day)
Question = “do you believe man is responsible for the upheaval of the climate?”. Feel free, and also, please spread & share as you see fit.
http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/environnement/co2-pic-historique-mondial-atteint-38940
Is that a full Moon I see before me?
Ice-out when the vertical smile turns horizontal.
The water is melt on the ice. It’s obviously not flowing, no ripples, nothing. If you look carefully you can see the sharp and crisp reflected image of the trees in the distance.
Let’s hope ‘when that foghorn blows’ it sounds as good as Van Morrison.
Getting close…
A crowd is starting to gather as seen by the Ice Cam image…
Was stationed in Alaska (twice,…by choice).
That’s a nice roadside shop, gas station, bar, trading post, etc where they conduct the Ice Classic.
There was another inn about halfway between Nenana and Fairbanks though that is more “infamous” that was owned by a very thin man named Richard…I’ll let you guess the name.
See, I told you Al Gores dirty climate thugs were in town..
One more hour.
I like this. Nice staightforward empirical data.
Probably, Nenana’s “moon” has a higher degree of popularity than Joshua Halpern.
Is that Michael Mann? Brown eye and the same vertical smile!
I’ve saving the updated images every 15 minutes or so for the past 4 hours and there has been no movement of the tower from the first to the last image & as the day has gone on you can see that the water on the surface is from melting.
Now that’s a full moon!
Ten Minutes!!!!!!!
getting crowded….
A new record!
Bet the MSM don’t report it.
Record broken full moon or no full moon LOL
11:42:08 AKST, tripod standing, record is set
Looks like a new record.
Got a screencap with a timestamp of 12:42:08!
Don’t forget that the previous record was set in 1964, which was a leap year. Therefore May 20th that year was one day later in the year than it is this year, on account of being after the extra Feb 29th. Tomorrow we celebrate.
IF the Ice classic committee considers it a record, so do I.
Yup it’s a new record!! (The leap year issue is irrelevant as far as the contest is concerned…)
So I wonder who will win the contest money??
I tried giving them a call and their phone is busy.
documented
Just listened to a recording. They consider it a record.
Can you imagine the conversations those people bundled up watching from the river side are having? I’m pretty sure it is not about reducing their carbon footprints.
Maybe he’s just a plumber?
Prime time for moving looks to be 9 am to 8 pm, so at least a few more hours until it is likely to make it another day. Anyone watch enough of these in the past to comment on how much surface water is present before the break-up.
Steve C says:
Don’t forget that the previous record was set in 1964, which was a leap year. Therefore May 20th that year was one day later in the year than it is this year, on account of being after the extra Feb 29th. Tomorrow we celebrate.
No.
If you want to account for calendar drift vs the solar cycle, then you measure against the solar cycle. Measuring from either the vernal equinox or the winter solstice, the record was set by 10AM AKST, earlier this morning. We celebrate today!
NWS set a flood watch for Wednesday through Friday for the Nenana area. So ice out is coming soon.
The Nenana Ice Classic Office expects the ice to break up either today or tomorrow.
There is a recording on their phone.
They acknowledge a record broken after 11:41am. (standard time?)
Guesses are submitted in standard time.
Congratulations to Nenana, Alaska, the new Global Warming Hot Spot !
On a related note…
http://twitter.com/lukasnorman/status/336134522804531201/photo/1
http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/20/while-toronto-gets-perfect-25c-weather-for-victoria-day-gander-newfoundland-digs-itself-out-of-record-54cm-snowfall/
Bits appearing in the channel, can’ be long now…
kbray in california says May 20, 2013 at 10:52 am
I’ll remember it as ” Moon River “
Ha ha ha …
Traditional:
More picturesque:
This will help avoid refreshing
Let’s try that again. Save as HTML file and load in browser
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To the warmists who are no doubt reading this thread (and you know who you are!):
I don’t consider this event to be a harbinger of anything – just another interesting, random weather-related event that has gone on for thousands of years, and which will continue unabated well beyond my time here on this earth. Unlike the climate industry ™, I don’t feel any need to go squealing like a stuck hog to the mainstream press every time some notable weather event occurs in hopes that, by doing so, it will somehow advance “my cause”.
So relax, pop a fine microbrew beer (dark beers are my preference), and enjoy the spectacle of a new ice out record, courtesy of mother nature!
Am I the only one seeing images or are image links now embedded?
Steve C says:
May 20, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Don’t forget that the previous record was set in 1964, which was a leap year. Therefore May 20th that year was one day later in the year than it is this year, on account of being after the extra Feb 29th. Tomorrow we celebrate.
As JJ points out the record set vs the solar cycle is already in the bag. As regards leap year, you’re mistaken. Since last year was a leap year, the calendar drift is not 24 hours but only about 6 hours. The earlier thread had comments where the authors had troubled to to do the actual work.
clipe says:
May 20, 2013 at 2:37 pm
Am I the only one seeing images or are image links now embedded?
I mean twitter links I posted
This is definitely better than watching paint dry.
And in nearby Newfoundland, Canada, we have more signs of early Spring.
May. 20 2013, 5:01 PM EDT
“Parts of Newfoundland buried by record-breaking spring snow storm ”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/parts-of-newfoundland-buried-by-record-breaking-spring-snow-storm/article12026685/
May 20, 2013; 11:13 AM
“Monster May Snow Buries Newfoundland”
“A record-smashing snowstorm has buried parts of Newfoundland under about 2 feet of snow.”
Jimbo
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/05/20/nenana-ice-classic-continues-to-close-on-new-record-meanwhile-lunar-effects-have-been-noted/#comment-1311103
It will help if the “tripod” stands another day, as that will deprive warmists of a comeback (about 1964’s leap year) when we crow about Nenana’s record-late ice-out in 2013.
this is really bad news….
..now probably for the rest of my life I’m going to have to listen to how the Nenana Ice Classic is getting earlier every year
The image I liked, which I hope will show up on the time-lapse replay, showed an 9-year-old (est.) boy and his younger sister running happily along the edge of the parking lot.
That lunar effect is called mooning
Latitude says:
“…I’m going to have to listen to how the Nenana Ice Classic is getting earlier every year…”
I agree about listening to the warmist crowd. But it will be much worse for everyone on earth if it’s later every year…
You betcha. 😉 You can’t win with these people. Had it not beaten the old record they would say it’s a sign that the heat is still there and it would have beaten the old record if it wasn’t for global warming.
The locals are gathering. They must know something’s up.
When’s the tailgate party?☺
Cracks me up!
Next year it’ll be “The earliest break-up in 2 years is a sign of global warming…..it’s worse than we thought.”
Rats, I was gone for 3 hours and when I got back the tripod was gone. Still new record even if only by a couple of hours.
“…A Kenai couple has the only winning ticket in this year’s Nenana Ice Classic.
The ice went out at 3:41 p.m. in Nenana on Monday and there was only one winning ticket holder in what was the latest breakup on record in the 97-year-old Nenana Ice Classic.
The official winning time was 2:41 p.m. Alaska Standard Time because the contest uses standard, not daylight, time to determine the winner(s)…”
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2013/05/20/2909357/kenai-couple-wins-nenana-ice-classic.html#storylink=cpy
LMAO. I’ve been sitting here reading this thread and the other thread trying to observe the claimed lunar effect. Of course not knowing what a Tacoma truck is, I look at all the vehicles in both threads just in case my screen colours are a bit off…and then I see it! LMAO…
Waterboys The Whole Of The Moon Lyrics
Songwriters: SCOTT
(Mike Scott)
I pictured a rainbow
You held it in your hands
I had flashes
But you saw the plan
I wandered out in the world for years
While you just stayed in your room
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon…