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Heh, this is from a commenter at Slashdot on Cook’s fatally flawed 97% consensus paper. While a bit harsh, it’s also funny. He responds to:
Yeah! It’s like saying that 97% of priests believe in god anyway.
by Razgorov Prikazka (1699498) on Friday May 17, 2013 @11:52AM (#43753313) says:
I agree, and it goes further than just priests! Here are some interesting factoids for you:
97% of the children believe in Santa
97% of paranoid believe they are being followed
97% of the homoeopaths believe in homoeopathy
97% of the astrologists believe in astrology
97% of the KKK think lynchmobs are a good thing
97% of the intelligent design gang are absolutely convinced that God made it all
97% of all the interviewed Zen buddists were convinced it is possible to clap with one hand
97% of the paganist movement think sandals are fashionable
97% of the physicians didnt believe in washing their hands before doing surgery
97% of the politicians think they are doing some great things
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I’ve added a few.
97% of dogs believe in hanging their noses out car windows
97% of cats believe in long naps
97% of Playboy models believe in taking all their clothes off
97% of cooks believe in cooking with heat (the rest are sushi chefs)
Readers are welcome to add to the list
Scientific studies have proven that 97% of the people will believe any hogwash you generate, as long as you tell them scientific studies prove it and give them a fake number !!! ;-))
C’mon guys. This is about climate science.
It’s 97.1%
97% of climatologists did not believe in AGW.
97.1% of scientists in 1850 believed mercury the best treatment for syphilis.
97.1% of pre-Copernican scientists fervently believed the sun rotated around the earth.
Consensus ā science
97% of climate scientists took sociology 101 statistics.
97% of alarmists believe things are worse than previously thought.
So if you can’t be part of the 99%, be part of the 97%
Yeah…superb put down, the guy who said that knows how to address these issues. Like I said, facts count for squat, communication must carry a punch and it must play with the enemies established beliefs (they are nearly all atheist assholes arent they…not saying atheists are assholes, but those assholes are atheists, can it be denied)..
The majority of sceptic discussion I see, quibbling over the minutiae of data and theoretical arguments…well go flush it, its just blowing in the wind.
No matter how hard you blow, the wind will always be stronger.
97% of all statistics are made up.
97 % of the people who did not vote for Obama still would not vote for him in any political way.
97% of climate scientists that are not getting a hand out from the Obama administration are having doubts and will flip to other side when Pork is handed out.
94% is the new 97%….
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10884467
97% of climatologist agree they know what is best for the planet… and you!
97% of climatologist ‘know’ that CO2 emissions are ‘pollution’, yet they refuse to stop exhaling and polluting my airspace!
Wait a moment – a flicker of reason at slashdot? The last place you would expect reason to reside? This is starting to look like a bad hair day for the warmists.
97% Ā± 97% depending on wind direction by consensus.
97% of eugenic professors believe eugenics is a real science.
Take a bold stand. Don’t just blend in with the crowd. Become part of the 97%.
97% of grant seekers love grants.
Only 9% of statistics are real, the other 97% are made up!
I was at the stoplight the other day. My sister was driving. My older sister. Now, you’ve all heard that teenagers text message while driving. My sister’s approaching seventy, well past the teenage years (since seventy is, obviously, well past the teens I don’t know why I needed to emphasize that). And, guess what? She text messages. Incredible.
Anyway, at the stoplight she really wanted to get in a round of texting since, instead of having her texting annoyingly distracted by the diversion of driving, at that point she could now put her all into it. She assigned me sentry to stand guard against the green light. I thought to myself, “She’s driving, damn it, I’m not.” So I got even by being extra diligent in my sentry duty. So, as she was completely immersed in the tip tapping of her phone I said, suddenly, “The light’s…” Her head shot up, foot flicked off the brake, and at that, I completed; “still red.” She reapplied the brake, gave me a quick, dirty, disgusted look and returned to her love affair with the phone. I thought to myself, ‘what the heck, this is fun,’ so I once again said, “The light’s … red.” The same reaction ensued.
What’s the point to all of this? Well, you see my sister responded to a believe in a green light, not a mere 97% of the time, no, a big whopping 100% of the time. And, at no point in time was that light green. Does this resemble climate science?
P.S. Don’t think she hasn’t done these kind of things to me.
97% of scientists applying for a federal grant know that if they can in some possible stretch of the imagination tie their grant to global warming they’ll get it approved.
(I have some pretty funny specific examples – but except for the AGW excuse – the science they are studying is quite worthwhile and the creative ways they tie this in to get their money is amazing)
“… an estimated 97 percent of the [Greenland] ice sheet surface had thawed by July 12.” (NASA)
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/greenland-melt.html
You can fool some of the people 97% of the time and you can fool 97% of the people some of the time but you can’t fool 97% of the people 97% of the time.
97% of the lemmings are just following the consensus, 3% thought they could fly.
You can fool 97% of the people some of the time and you can fool some of the people 97% of the time but you can’t fool 97% of the people 97% of the time.
In 2007, 97% of climate scientists believed the Arctic would be ice-free by summer 2013.
In 2013, 97% of climate scientists say that prediction doesn’t matter anymore because the ocean ate their missing heat.
97% of elected officials don’t ever lie.
97% of climate scientists are not going to get audited by the IRS.
The other 3%, well…
The way temperatures have been going, I don’t think even God believes in Global Warming. Certainly not anthropogenic global warming.
And if God’s a practicing skeptic, what side of the argument does that leave Cook?
Hmmmm…….. “cook”……… “heat”…….. “Godless”……. hmmmmm…
You draw your own conclusions, but I know which way I’d send him.
I thought 97% of all statistics are made up. š
An adaptation of John Cook’s Escalator graph “how realists view global warming”
http://i39.tinypic.com/72f7n4.jpg
Extrapolating Cook’s 97% survey result to the ‘survey data’ in the graph, a new single question survey can be devised:
“97% of global warming is caused by scientists writing abstracts on articles promoting AGW” ( true / false )
There should be sufficient information in the image to allow you to reproduce it from the given UN/IPCC friendly data sources in a matter of minutes. Have fun and enjoy
97% of climate scientists would be out of a job if there wasn’t a global warming problem.
97% of idiots don’t realize they are idiots
Again…SEMMELWEISS. There would have been 100% consensus that microbes had no effect on disease but for that single, solitary scientist. Once he had died and his experimental data forgotten, then indeed that consensus was 100% for several years.
97% of watermelons are green on the outside and red on the inside.
97% of climate scientists live a life they condemn others for living.
97% of scientists agree that voting is not a reliable way to ascertain truth.
In a survery 33% of priests said they believed in God, and 64% didn’t deny they believed in God
No matter how carefully crafted a project schedule is, the first 97% of the work takes 97% of the planned time. The remaining 3% takes another 97% of the time.
My wife feeds 97% of the cats in the neighbourhood, and 100% of the cats like her.
“97% of Playboy models believe in taking all their clothes off”
And 97% of Playboy readers agree!
The rest read the braille edition. š
97.1% of trees can’t tell the temperature.
97% sounds like a made-up number.
It tends toward the extreme, yet leaves room for a hasty exit.
I can think of a lot of old marketing commercials for toothpaste, deodorant, and other consumer goods that used 97% of some DDS, MDs, or pharmacists or other profession in agreement with the superior product. being promoted.
Also, 97% of EPA employees believe in AGW and the others are up for the firing squad.
‘The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane’.
Marcus Aurelius Augustus
97% of people think the trout population in the Wallowa River has gone down over the past 7 years. And I likely had something to do with that.
Saying 97% of climate papers agree is like saying 97% agree do-do stinks.
This is made all the more amazing by only 3% of reality agreeing with the results of the 97% of global warming papers.
97% of AGW scientists, activists and hacks believe that 97% of scientists endorse and embrace AGW.
I want to be a nonconformist just like 97% of all the other nonconformists.
In Australia there is a common statement (amongst people I know anyway), that 87% of statistics are made up on the spot. If that figure is 97% in the United States, then my view of the matter is that 87% of Australians are more pragmatic than Americans. This is accurate at the 97% confidence level.
Thought experiment. Ten buses serve the community. Nine buses regularly carry one passenger each. One bus is full with thirty people. Interview all 39 and the vast majority will report the buses are always full to bursting. The truth is that 90% are running close to empty. Welcome to climate science.
97% of the popes are Catholic.
Carbon Commodity Marketing….is 97% racketeering….and 3% faux science.
Wamron says:
… The majority of sceptic discussion I see, quibbling over the minutiae of data and theoretical arguments ā¦
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Just like 97% of all papers in climate science.
97% took Dr. McKenzies Menthoids with confidence!
97% of climate scientist believe that by 2100, it will be 103% that believe.
Michael Palmer:
“Wamron says:
ā¦ The majority of sceptic discussion I see, quibbling over the minutiae of data and theoretical arguments ā¦
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Just like 97% of all papers in climate science.”
BUT……….they ALSO dominate the media, the education system, academia, politics, local government, even the higher echelons of the military. Meanwhile sceptics who piss about with trying to quote facts achieve NOTHING by doing so, have ZERO purchase on the communal agenda and will never achieve anything, until they learn that the way to influence debate is not with fact but with the representation of perception.
They dont need o be right about anything. Consequently, proving them wrong on everything, would in itself achieve precisely nothing.
97% of everyone have experienced AGW gas. The rest await the privilege…..
97% of chickens never actually get to the other side
Just like 97% of climate science never make a substantial point in the AGW belief
Just that they believe
JohnB
97% of AGW promoters avoid saying there is a 100% or 99% or 98% consensus because it would appear like to be an obviously unsupportable statement.
97% of the Geophysical Research Letters reviewers desperately believe they possess the ability of comprehension.
97% of defense contractors believe we need to invest in a stronger military.
At least 97% of alarmists can’t believe that only 0.22% of scientists (about 70 ignorant delusional fanatics who originated this garbage, vs. ~31,500 who signed the Oregon Petition, or 1 in 450, by this measure) actually believe it.
JohnB says:
May 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm
97% of chickens never actually get to the other side
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97% of the chickens trying to cross the road never reach it 97% of the time.
(thought I’d help embellish it a bit)
(Reposted from Kloor’s)
Alright, I’m going to throw some facts at you so strap in:
Fact: 97% of scientists agree that we’re going to die horrible weather related deaths. Those who survive will eat one another in a Mad Max style post-apocalyptic nightmare. This is a scientific FACT, 97% of scientists agree to this. Stop denying science, bumpkin.
Fact: 97% of scientists agree that if we don’t subsidize solar panel companies you hate science and your brain is probably incapable of thinking scientifically at all (Lewandowsky 2009)
Fact: 97% of scientists agree that the main cause of continued growth in C02 emissions is Anthony Watts and not hundreds of millions of Chinese, Indians and others who stubbornly resist returning to subsistence farming.
At Mods discretion…. JohnB reminded me of a new chicken joke.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Because North Korea’s long range missles can’t go that far.
but 97% of climate scientist think it was to escape the record high temps ….
Friends: 97% of the people who think that 97% of scientists believe the world is warming and that the cause is human emissions of CO2 believe that the ‘97% of scientists’ were counted in a valid, scientifically acceptable manner.
Bill Mollison once told me that 87% of statistics are “just made up.” In spite of the 10% difference between them, it would appear that most 97% figures are actually part of that 87%.
Tom J says: “…P.S. Donāt think she hasnāt done these kind of things to me.”
Yeah, Tom, her neighbor told me about the jalapeƱo ice cream prank.
Wamron, I disagree with you. The truth matters; propaganda is mighty, but not almighty. For proof, consider the Soviet empire folding like a house of cards – this did not happen for want of propaganda, and not for Ronald Reagan’s superhero powers either. It happened because people knew the truth, and when Gorbachev allowed it to be spoken, it was all over.
Our society is misguided and absurd in many ways, but it does allow us to speak the truth as we see it. Everybody who does so helps to preserve this right, and the truth to get out.
Manfred says: “āThe object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insaneā. –Marcus Aurelius Augustus”
Very apropos; that’s exactly the situation we’re facing. The 97% are pretty rank.
97 % of skeptics exercise skepticism (3 % fake skeptics e.g. Skeptical Science )
97% of people think the Consensus Project logo looks like Pacman.
REPLY: I was waiting for somebody to say that. C<
-A
Wamron says:
“They dont need o be right about anything. Consequently, proving them wrong on everything, would in itself achieve precisely nothing. “
There is no need to prove the sceptics wrong, The global temperatures following the IPCC predictions will be sufficient. But, oh dear, is it that the actual temperatures are diverging below the +/- 97% level?
Gary says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:27 pm
97% of people think the Consensus Project logo looks like Pacman.
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97% of Pacmans die on the first level.
97% of Turkeys do not believe in celebrating Christmas
We asked 11,994 shoppers in 1,980 supermarkets “Are apples better than pears?”
32.6% said they prefer apples.
66.4% said neither, they prefer oranges and bananas.
0.7% said they prefer pears.
0.3% said they liked apples and pears about the same.
This is conclusive proof that 97% of fruit eaters prefer apples.
Go Home says:
May 17, 2013 at 7:42 pm
97% of defense contractors believe we need to invest in a stronger military.
The Best one yet (imho)
97% of Godwin invokers don’t realize that they have invoked his Law in one form or another.
The Consensus Project promotional statement is that 97% of climate papers which state a position on human-caused global warming agree that global warming is happening AND that 97% of climate papers which state a position on human-caused global warming (the we who agree) are the cause of the global warming.
So where should the attack be directed?
That claimed 97% really don’t appear competent to understand what they agree to believe- is that incompetence the heart of their ‘consensus’?
97% of business owners run a business built by someone else.
97% of non-Democrats get harassed by the IRS
97% of spontaneous protestors carry mortar, machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.
97% of AP Reporters are unhappy about having their private phone records seized.
97% of Americans are math impaired; the remaining 13% aren’t.
97% of all living climate scientists will never know how wrong they were by 2100
Did anyone say, 97% of Skeptics believe that warmists live in an alternate reality? If they did I am 97% sorry but if not then I am 97% 1st.
97% of the ABC are warmist socialists. (That’s the Australian ABC)
In fact, the same goes for the Age. But not Popes being Catholic – many Popes are actually Orthodox.
“97% of paranoid believe they are being followed”
Paranoia is the DELUSIONAL belief that EVERYONE is out to get you.
However, just because someone is paranoid, that doesn’t prove that no one is out to get them.
97% of Quantum Physicists know where they are or how fast they are going but not both.
97% of sociologists think people tell the truth on surveys.
97% of people will at least once in their life try to tell a joke to which they have forgotten the punch line.
Pamela Gray says: And I likely had something to do with that.
If I wasn’t already happily married…
97% of fishermen think that women who like to catch trout are like Venus in the Half Shell, but with arms.
97% of male statisticians have small p values.
97% of Mike Mann is still full of BS.
According to the ‘Fruit & Vegetable Growers Monthly’, the authors of the above survey have defended the recent accusation that they had ‘lied through their back teeth’ to make it look like apples are better than pears – completely ignoring the 66.4% of shoppers who believe oranges and bananas are much nicer. A spokesperson for the survey said “It is quite clear from our research that, of the 11,994 shoppers who had the choice of either apples or pears, 97% of them prefer apples.” He added “The calculation is really very simple. Just over 4,000 of the 11,994 shoppers, that’s 33.6% of the total interviewed either liked apples, preferred pears or did not mind either apples or pears. Therefore, of the 4,000 individuals who had a preference for either of the two fruits, 97% of them agree without question that apples win over pears.
97% of the scientists not thrown out of the pool think water is wet…
2117 of 2224 were thrown out of the pool.. three of the 97 left in didn’t think water was wet since the water only covered their toes when everyone else was thrown out..
I always say “A consensus of grant recipients”
97%, now that’s prime!
In 1950, 97% of scientists thought that continental drift theory was a crock. That 97% are now alarmist climatologists.
97% of the people with obsessive compulsive disorder believe in the precautionary principle.
97% of dogs believe sniffing another dog’s @rse is a good thing.
Since 66% had no opinion in Cook’s book, 97% of the remaining 34% provided an opportunity for the fuzzy mathematicians and Obama’s tweet room to convince all available “useful” idi*ts that 33% = 97%.
When asked about this new math, Cook, Hansen, Gore, Mann, et al. replied that only deniers would argue that 33% does not = 97%. They then declared, once again, that the debate is over depending on who you ask 33% of the time.
If at first you don’t succeed, cherrypick the data until you get 97%.
Just snap your fingers, daddy-o!
Michael Palmer says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:11 pm
The truth matters; propaganda is mighty, but not almighty. For proof, consider the Soviet empire folding like a house of cards ā this did not happen for want of propaganda, and not for Ronald Reaganās superhero powers either. It happened because people knew the truth, and when Gorbachev allowed it to be spoken, it was all over.
Actually, it has been much more complicated than that. In fact, not like that at all. Most of the people in the USSR perfectly knew the truth and lied through their teeth, some out of fear, the others just being happy slaves (as most of the people usually are).
The Soviet Union was brought down by many various factors, not the least of which was that this old alcoholic, Boris Yeltsin, personally, didn’t like the Soviet system much, while Mikhail Gorbachev was too reluctant to save it, being a bit ashamed of it after visiting Reagan, Thatcher, and such. Especially if it stood between them and the power. What happened in 1991 was a coup d’etat supported by Yeltsin’s friends in the military, not a revolution. Some people in Moscow went to the streets, surely, but nobody was ever armed — except Yeltsin’s military friends, of course.
If you’d ask me, based on the first-hand personal observations at the time, what played the most important role in bringing down the Soviet Union, I’d say: a fraction of the thieves-in-law seeing an opportunity to divide and rule (to rob and sell) Russia anew, first of all. And then, of course, Beatles and jeans. Never underestimate Beatles and jeans.
Truth? What truth? What is the truth? And who the hell cares?
“There will be no revolution in Austria as long as Austrians have their sausage and beer.”
— Ludvig van Beethoven
PS: Sorry, it should be “w” in Ludwig — still, after 30 years in America, I misspell some words that I am used to pronounce internally in Russian.
97% of IRS auditors target conservatives?
The real question is – why they have never managed to convince the last 3%?
Haven’t read the thread just in case it’s been said but here’s my hapeth worth..
97% believe themselves to be the repository of 100% of the truth.
97% of people interested in climate science visit WUWT daily.
Actually, this one may well be true.
Including a link (however tenuous) to global warming in your grant application increases its chance of being accepted by 97%.
Can we drop this study already, consensus or not it doesnt matter. Its becoming incredibly ugly here on WUWT.
1) Claim it’s wrong
2) Claim it’s a lie
3) Try to ridicule it
Its such a bad look, I read the comments on the other threads and I mean there were like 4-5 guys explaining how the statistics worked and how it wasnt an epic lie, the rest were sucking up the misinformation about a lie. I am going to have to stop reading WUWT, it doesnt feel right anymore.
Lighten up Oflot, this is the Friday funny! Comments on the other serious articlesin WUWT are often well informed and/or expand the scope of the article.
97% of climate scientists are starting to look very nervous
“expand the scope of the article.”
Which is exactly what everyone here is trying to do ! š
Oflot, were you happy with the election of Prince Andrew to the Royal Society with 147 votes yes and 1200 abstentions? He got 100% of those that expressed a preference!
97+-3% of those who agree with me, agree with me.
97% of climate scientists make sure they get more funding
Oflot says:
May 18, 2013 at 12:19 am
Chillax Man – this is for fun (everybody needs some fun, sometime !)
But your statement is also pretty darn ironic – as, in reality – it is not the skeptics that continually QUOTE the ‘consensus’ in the media – it’s the bloody alarmists – GO and tell THEM to stop the CRAPOLA!
The poll was checking the first line of agreement in the red circle above:
“Scientists agree that global warming is happening”
The second line was not checked in the poll, certainly no “anthropogenic” existed in the scale one had to choose for the abstrac, and the 10 abstracts did not have “anhropogenic” in them. It is an arbitrary extension by the poll makers to fulfill their agenda.
97% of the CO2 in the air is natural. 97% or radiated heat is not in the CO2 band. 97% of the CO2 emissions do not come from the UK. 97% of the UK electricity is NOT generated by ruddy windmills. 97% of the government renewables subsidy IS paying for ruddy windmills. 97% of the people are too stupid to understand this. 97% of scientists are on the gravy train provided by 97% of the Politicians. 97% of the politicians will get lucrative rewards from the wind industry when they are thrown out. 97% of people could not care less.
Ivor Ward
List is much longer, for 97% google has 17,500,000 results.
Only one I am slightly concern about is
ā97% Of Doctors Prescribe Placebos, UKā
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/258048.php
I think it should read more like,
”97.10000% of climate scientists agree that without the threat of AGW they would get no funding. The other 2.90000% are in the pay of big oil… So, If you continue to believe in AGW then you will enable our climate scientists to generate more Sci-Fi for you to read and everyone will be happy (expect those living near the seaside.
That 97% number looks a bit suspect and sloppy to me. Shouldn’t it have a few decimal places to make it look more accurate? I mean: Something like 97.28% (for example) looks far more scientific and suggests better maths were used than a bare 97%!
97% of socialists believe that folks who earn more than they do need to pay higher taxes.
97% of newspaper reports contain errors? Archaeologist claims to have located site of Roman battle
I said “crop marks” not “crop circles”.
97% of lemmings follow ‘the team’ leaders.{+ or- 500%}
97% of men tell their girlfriends they read Playboy for the articles.
Levity aside, it would be an. interesting exercise to survey the authors of the 66% of papers from Cook’s survey which did not express an opinion on AGW in the abstract.
Perhaps just two questions:
1. “In your opinion; Is modern warming most likely to be predominantly man-made?”
2. (If ‘yes’ to 1 above): “In you opinion is it very likely that the situation is so dire that major action must be taken immediately?”
97% of French were in the resitence.
97% of all things are nails! For someone who owns a hammer…
97% of climate scientists are not climate scientists.
96% of scientists didn’t check for themselves.
They are having quite a party in SKS comment sections, the amount of backslapping going on is incredible…
…. and 97% of them have wet themselves with excitement.
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97% of physicians thought bleeding was beneficial. One bled George Washington to death.
SkS is 97% emotion, 4% 0ther.
97% of dishonest, rent seeking, climate psyentists think they are going to carry on peddling their anti-human crap on the tax-payers’ dime for ever.
Interesting how they try to save the 97% number.
Obviously too much already invested in it.
They do not acknowledge that the 97% was obtained through fake statistics, but being so deconstructed by the skeptics and more and more people getting aware of it, they try now to replace it with new statistics.
Typical.
And surprise, surprise, even if making statistics in a different area with different material they come suddenly to 97%. Not 98% or 96% or 95% but exactly the same 97%.
So yes, it is worth only to laugh about it and the fake statistics and their theories by consensus. They are in the same bucket with the astrologists.
I like those
97% of the children believe in Santa
97% of paranoid believe they are being followed
97% of the homoeopaths believe in homoeopathy
97% of the astrologists believe in astrology
…
and all the examples. It is so revealing. The guy was so right: “Yeah! Itās like saying that 97% of priests believe in god anyway.”
And yeah, if you pay a million dollar grant to each and every paper which can prove “scientifically” that Santa exist, you will get ten thousands of papers demonstrating that Santa really exists. And a lot of “scientists” will take this very seriously. Of course if raw data cannot be found it can be easily proven that 97% of toys come from Santa.
This global warming religion is anti-human, anti-environment and anti-science. I think they qualify even for the most absurd epithet of anti-climate (sic). Who else denies there has been a climate and any bigger climate variations before humans “started changing it”?
They destroy the environment with biofuels, windmills, they sabotage science with consensus theories, trying to destroy healthy skepticism, bullying and insulting skeptics, not using the scientific method, they push for non-democratic decisions taking. A very dangerous cult.
OK, stop ranting Lars it is Friday funny time…
97% of the doctors in the 19th century believed humans will not survive traveling with 100 kmh speed
97% of the scientists did not believe meteorites are stones “falling from the sky”
97% of bears shit in the woods. The other 3% are in zoos.
97% of popes are catholic, and male. The other 3% were accidently made pope before someone found out they were actually women.
97% of climate alarmists believe in lying to further the cause. The other 3% are lying.
97% of the time the romans have never done anything for us. Except when it comes to roads, education, medicine, sanitation, public order, wine, and world peace.
97% of the messiahs in ancient Judea claimed to be the messiah. Only the ones who didn’t say they were actually the messiah, were the real messiah.
97% of the Judean People’s Front are against the People’s Front of Judea.
97% of men who want to be women want to have babies, its their right as a man.
97% of the committee voted to stop just sitting around and voting in committees.
97% of the Knights of the Round table thought they were onto something in their search for the holy grail.
I’m sorry, I’m just watching a Monty Python movie. Not bad, for educating oneself about statistics.
97% of ninetysevenpercenters are 97% fools
97% of what Obama says comes from a Teleprompter the other 3% come from his PR twitter feed.
or better still,:
100% of ninetysevenpercenters are 100% fools
97% of cartoonists aren’t dishonest and rent seekers.
Despots and dictators always claim a 97% vote in favour of their policies when they run elections, referenda and polls.
Put an infinite number of journalists in front of a keyboard and 97% of them will type alarm.
97% of politicians who lust for power believe that making government as big and totalitarian as possible is a good idea.
97% of junk scientists actually believe in their theories.
While googling for “97 percent” I found this from 2012.
‘Astonishing’ Heat Wave Melts 97 Percent of Greenland Ice Sheet
Not expected to have a significant impact on sea level rise
By Jason Koebler
July 25, 2012
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/07/25/astonishing-heat-wave-melts-97-percent-of-greenland-ice-sheet
Men and women share 97% of their DNA
Chimps and humans share 98.5% of their DNA.
Therefore … men are more closely related to male chimps than they are to women
*But in fact men and women share 45/46 chromosomes which is 97.8% which just happens to be near enough the human body temperature if Fahrenheit.
[snip – pointless OTT – Anthony]
97% of all living things are creepy-crawlies.
There must be some connection there.
97.1% that read articles and post responses on http://www.wattsupwiththat.com website agree the entire only caused by man Climate change thing is a hoax. 2.99% are trolls and AGW spies.
there are more interesting figures:
http://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu : Latest reading 400,27 ppm
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Oflot says:
May 18, 2013 at 12:19 am
Can we drop this study already, consensus or not it doesnt matter. Its becoming incredibly ugly here on WUWT.
1) Claim itās wrong
2) Claim itās a lie
3) Try to ridicule it
Its such a bad look, I read the comments on the other threads and I mean there were like 4-5 guys explaining how the statistics worked and how it wasnt an epic lie, the rest were sucking up the misinformation about a lie. I am going to have to stop reading WUWT, it doesnt feel right anymore.”
Oflot…….to paraphrase your position:
English officer US revolutionary war: “I thay ole chap theeeth Yankies they dont fight pwoper, they wont stand up in bwightly cowered jackets in wines like ower wedcoats to be shwot at pwoperly like a swoldier shwood. I fwink I will give up thith wawer ath itth a bwit ugwy”.
Go on, piss off, nobody needs you.
I posted a comment on the Guardian about this. I basically said (paraphrase)
“I am really baffled by all this. If the science is so strong for over 10 years now then why do we need to emphasise a consensus. Why do we need surveys showing large support for AGW? I have my strong suspicions as to why but I don’t want to make people here angry.”
My comment did not make it through. If pressed I was going to tell them the following which would really have set sparks flying as the truth hurts.
Governments reducing solar and wind subsidies.
Increased use of coal in UK and 1,000 coal-fired power plants planned worldwide.
The reduced media stories about global warming.
Frakking and shale gas revolution.
Flagging public interest in global warming etc.
“Jantar says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:33 pm
Wamron says:
āThey dont need o be right about anything. Consequently, proving them wrong on everything, would in itself achieve precisely nothing. ā
There is no need to prove the sceptics wrong, The global temperatures following the IPCC predictions will be sufficient. But, oh dear, is it that the actual temperatures are diverging below the +/- 97% level?”
Completely misread my comment. Its the CAGW gang who dont need to prove anything. Even if we enter a new ice age, they will maintain its dues to human activity, the mdia will still repeatthat and public policy will still follow. You will never defeat them with facts. Even blatant, obvious, undeniable facts. Theonlyway to counter them is in cultural terms. This thread has been a good example of the kind of thing of which MUCH more is needed. Ridicule is a simple starting point for those who are beginners at psychological warfare (which sceptics are, at best). The case of Oflots comment illustrates the kind of attitude sceptics have shown far too much of, dont need, shouldnt emulate and had better shun if any progress is to be made.
Since ’97 the temps have flatlined 97% of the time
I posted this
“fretslider at 21:59 PM on 18 May, 2013
97% sounds very impressive.
Yet why did the original press release say: “From the 11 994 papers, 32.6 per cent endorsed AGW, 66.4 per cent stated no position on AGW, 0.7 per cent rejected AGW and in 0.3 per cent of papers, the authors said the cause of global warming was uncertain.”
How did you get from 32.6% to 97%
Here http://www.skepticalscience.com/2013-SkS-News-Bulletin-12.html#comments
I doubt I’ll get to stay on the page, let alone get an answer…
They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
97 percent use 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
I’ll never know which one I am but I’ll bet you my last dime
99 percent think we’re 3 percent 100 percent of the time
64 percent of all the world’s statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe ’em whether they’re accurate statistics or not
I don’t know what you believe but I do know there’s no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Alexander Feht — the Soviet Union was done long before the putsch of 1991, which was just a futile attempt to avert this end. It was done as soon as people were given a choice to defend or abandon it. They made their choice based on what they knew about the reality of the Soviet Union, a.k.a. the truth, as opposed to based on what they were supposed to believe, a.k.a. the propaganda.
That does not contradict your description of the particulars in any way – I did not claim that freedom gives rise only to truthful thoughts or noble deeds, nor that those who undid the Soviet Union were squeaky-clean heroes.
“Michael Palmer says:
May 17, 2013 at 8:11 pm
Wamron, I disagree with you. The truth matters; propaganda is mighty, but not almighty. For proof, consider the Soviet empire folding like a house of cards ā this did not happen for want of propaganda, and not for Ronald Reaganās superhero powers either. It happened because people knew the truth, and when Gorbachev allowed it to be spoken, it was all over.
Our society is misguided and absurd in many ways, but it does allow us to speak the truth as we see it. Everybody who does so helps to preserve this right, and the truth to get out.”
Well I dont know where you were throughout the Cold War…in diapers probably. The USSR was destroyed purely by military pressure and the drain imposed by dozens of third party conflicts plus Afghanistan. “People knew the truth” you say. What “truth” was that? How could “truth” have anything to do with it, it was a conflict between two power-blocs, neither of which could be described as either “right” or “wrong”.Tell us please, WHAT did the Russian people do to bring down their rulers…….NOTHING…ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.They could do nothing, and you cannot name a single Soviet ordinary citizen who contributed to the collapse of the USSR, because there was none. Solzhnitsin, Sheransky, et al dont count…they were international media stars whose influence was solely upon Western nations encouraging the West to maintain its guard. Had it not been for the single minded determination of Ronald Reagan to run the USSR into industrial and financial exhaustion by immense arms spending, and Margaret Thatcher to deploy US nuclear theatre weapons against fierce local opposition, as well as sending British special forces to aid the killing of large numbers of Soviet soldiers in the field….the USSR would still exist. If you think otherwise you are living in a cuckoo land of fairy-tales.
As for speaking the truth……..you speak to each other. You have no audience and noone is listening.
“Michael Palmer says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:06 am”
While what you say is true, many former eastern German people wish for a return to the past. Main reason is they all had jobs, an income, a “path” if you like. Post Berlin wall-fall, most had to compete in a “free” market economy, and most of those didn’t like it.
Bill Clinton puffed but didn’t inhale, 97% of the time.
Why did Bill cross the road?
Because he was still stuck to the chicken…97% of the time.
Statistics. Don’t you just love ’em! Statistics prove that the average person in the UK has one breast and one testicle so it must be true.
Alexander Feht……….true but what you say only relates to the final page of a long story. Gorbachev and that alkie bloke only emerged because the Soviet oligarchy were seeking a leadership that could extricate them from decades of making preperation for war with the West the central feature of Soviet life. Reagans choice of hammering the USSR on all fronts, mainly by piling on weapons programmes the USSR could never compete with, bankrupting them in their effort to try, created the situation in which Gorbachev could emerge. The deployment of GLCMs in Berkshire UK and Pershing 2 in West Germany demonstrated that the US and its allies were still resolved to actually initiate use of nuclear weapons within theatre (leaving the CONUS out of conflict) whilst that theate took in Western Russia including Moscow. The deployment of these weapons against fierce and sustained, aggressive and determined Soviet funded local opposition groups, not just political but disruptive action, demonstrated the determination of NATO govts to press on with this aggressive stance. There is no ambiguity about this, the USSR was brought down by the cumulative effect of decades of military pressure culminating in the final push of the Reagan years.
“97% of the intelligent design gang are absolutely convinced that God made it all”
97% of Atheists are absolutely convinced that Time x Chance = Everything, including puppies, black holes and RNA transcription. The other 3% are agnostic about it. “Agnostic” comes from the Greek. The Latin equivalent is “Ignoramus.” Now it’s true that “Ignoramus” didn’t originally mean something pejorative, but it’s funny how Chance works, idn’it. š
I actually got an answer….
Moderator Response:
[Dikran Marsupial] This is explained in detail in a previous post here. http://www.skepticalscience.com/97-percent-consensus-cook-et-al-2013.html
“Based on our abstract ratings, we found that just over 4,000 papers expressed a position on the cause of global warming, 97.1% of which endorsed human-caused global warming. In the self-ratings, nearly 1,400 papers were rated as taking a position, 97.2% of which endorsed human-caused global warming.”
So it is 32.6% after all.
“Patrick says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:13 am
āMichael Palmer says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:06 amā
…many former eastern German people wish for a return to the past. Main reason is they all had jobs, an income, a āpathā if you like. Post Berlin wall-fall, most had to compete in a āfreeā market economy, and most of those didnāt like it.”
Germans really hate the British. My impression is that for many its because they resent our part in liberating them from Communism whilst for most of the rest its that they resent our part in putting down the Third Reich. For many its simply the shame of having been the school-yard bully of Europe defeated and pillaged by the school-yard “weakling”.
That said, the British abroad are such arrogant assholes, who wouldnt dislike them?
97% of scientists believed in the miasma theory at one time too. They failed to recognize that correlation is not causation. Just because people became sick when the air smelled bad does not mean that bad air makes you sick. The scientists who said germs make you sick were ostracized. The miasma theory had some good because it brought about proper sanitation in cities which also reduced sickness. But nothing could change the fact that correlation is not causation. The truth eventually won and we now know that it was germs in the air and not the air itself.
There are many similarities to the miasma theory and the CAGW theory. The difference this time is that people promoting the modern day miasma theory are negatively affecting the lives of billions.
“Wamron says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:33 am
That said, the British abroad are such arrogant assholes, who wouldnt dislike them?”
Like Germans eh? Ok, I hear ya. BTW where do you think the “Angles” came from?
97.1% of humans endorse
globalwarming–in bed, on a sofa or chair, on a blanket next to the ocean or in the woods, in the back seat of a car or van.And 97.1% would approve of my editing. What’s not to like?
Wamron says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:33 am
“Germans really hate the British. My impression is that for many its because they resent our part in liberating them from Communism whilst for most of the rest its that they resent our part in putting down the Third Reich. For many its simply the shame of having been the school-yard bully of Europe defeated and pillaged by the school-yard āweaklingā.
That said, the British abroad are such arrogant assholes, who wouldnt dislike them?”
I’m German and I think I found a great idiot.
97% of climate scientists say the science is settled.
97% of climate scientists say funding is required for more research.
aljazeera video quoting 97% report and interviewing Mann, Nuccitelli, Piltz,
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidestoryamericas/2013/05/201351865032465413.html
97% of scientist claim to use the scientific method.
97% of government workers believe the deserve a raise..
Really we have put the fox in charge of the hen house.. The University created green industry believes that all is well..
They will never change their minds or back down as long as the money and fame continues to flow.. Green studies and all of its spin offs are hard wired into their curriculum..
Let’s see… 97% of politicians are just like diapers. They need changed frequently, and for the same reason.
97% of diplomacy is like saying, “Nice doggy” until you can find a rock.
97% of pessimists are really optimists in possession of the facts.
It is because light travels faster than sound that 97% of alarmists appear bright until they begin speaking.
97% of the time a Texan will get off your porch when you pay for the pizza.
97% of higher education in the Ozarks is when the school is sitting on top of the hill.
97% of triggernometry is learned with a squirrel rifle.
Anatomy is something everybody has, but 97% of the time looks much better on a gal.
How many “climate-change” scientists does it take to change a light bulb?
About 97%.
Give a woman an inch and 97% of the time she starts thinking she is a ruler.
It’s easy to get a woman to listen to you, just whisper 97% of the time.
Adam was created first to give man a chance to say something.
A woman will absolutely buy anything 97% of the time if she thinks the store is losing money.
In the Ozarks, 97% of the time dressing up means you have to put on some damn clothes.
97% of SS race scientists believed Jews are subhuman.
Converting a complex question to a sound bite is both misleading and effective.
1)Who among us disputes that human beings cause warming of our environment?
2)Who disputes that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?
3)Does anyone here disagree with the radiative physics that says increasing atmospheric CO2 will raise the effective radiating layer, which will tend to increase lower atmospheric temperatures and reduce upper atmospheric temps?
Obviously, we warm our environment. We are warm blooded animals, merely by being alive we produce heat. It’s physically impossible for us not to warm our environment to some extent. Regarding questions two and three, Anthony Watts has taken pains to publicly express his disagreement with and disdain for the Principa Scientific folk, as has Dr. Roy Spencer; arch ‘deniers’ Watts and Spencer themselves! See:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/28/a-misinterpreted-claim-about-a-nasa-press-release-co2-solar-flares-and-the-thermosphere-is-making-the-rounds/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/24/spencer-slays-with-sarcasm/
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/05/time-for-the-slayers-to-put-up-or-shut-up/
Clearly we at WUWT are part of the 97% consensus!
Wait, consensus about what exactly? THAT’S the issue. Does this consensus mean we agree we should immediately stop burning fossil fuels? Does it even mean we are mildly concerned? Do we have any sort of consensus about what warming we’ll see? Whoa, back up; do we in fact have a consensus that we will even see net warming at all? Hmm, it’s impossible to say based on the questions above, isn’t it.
So what was the point? The point was to generate a quick sound bite, an illusion to support policymaker decisions. 97% believe in AGW. The casual observer, and the vast majority of the population is this and nothing else, is far more interested in the last Chicago Bears game or the next episode of Jersey Shores than esoteric scientific questions and subtle distinctions. If you want to make a point to such an observer, it had best be both simple and brief. ‘97% believe in AGW’ is what such an observer will walk away with, and when the time comes to vote, he will assume that whatever policies are claimed to be required to fight AGW that 97% of scientists
support them.
He who frames the survey wins.
97% of those who comment on WUWT are 97% of those who comment on WUWT.
97% of those who believe in UFOs believe in aliens.
97% of those who believe in aliens believe they come from Mexico.
97% of those who believe that 97% of 97% is 97% is 97%.
“The only statistics you can trust are those you falsified yourself” – Winston Churchill
http://tigger.uic.edu/~slsclove/stathumr.htm
Like many, I’ve sat back all day monitoring this thread and watched the MSM. I am delighted that, in the UK, only the Guardian seems to have sensationalised the 97%. The BBC, for once, having obviously seen that the statistics are totally flawed, have taken the precautionary step to ignore the story. As ever, I look forward to reading Christopher Booker in tomorrow’s Telegraph. Let’s hope that he nails it for us all.
DirkH says:
May 17, 2013 at 5:20 pm
Wait a moment ā a flicker of reason at slashdot? The last place you would expect reason to reside? This is starting to look like a bad hair day for the warmists.
I thought much the same thing – As you can see from most of the other comments, Slashdot is vehemently pro AGW, and daring to suggest otherwise makes you a prime target for abuse…
Dec 10 2008 – 97% of Bernie Madoff’s clients trusted him
Dec 12 2008 – 100% of Bernie Madoff’s clients kissed goodbye to 97% of their money
97% of statisticians believe this statement. Error range: +/- 97%.
… what beats me is that people here fail to recognize that the climate (at least in the north Atlantic) has warmed since the mid nighties … the reason … who knows … but it’s a fact!
Michael Palmer says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:06 am
… the Soviet Union was done long before the putsch of 1991, which was just a futile attempt to avert this end. It was done as soon as people were given a choice to defend or abandon it. They made their choice based on what they knew about the reality of the Soviet Union, a.k.a. the truth, as opposed to based on what they were supposed to believe, a.k.a. the propaganda.
Is that why most of Russians wish the USSR would be back, and Vlad Putin accomodates them as much as he can? Read David Satter’s “It Was a Long Time Ago, and it Never Happened.”
Don’t be so naive, please.
Wamron
Military pressure played an important role, yes. It broke the Soviet spine economically. But, as you can see in China and Vietnam, change of terminology didn’t change people much. Russia remains a land of happy slaves, thieves, and liars; most of those who could live on their own, left it already. Few stubborn old stinkers and young protesters remain but their activity is hopeless: most of Russians nstinctively need a dictatorship, because they know they cannot rely on themselves.
Alexander Feht…what you say is correct, and even more indication that we have no reason to expect OUR culture to change either: Warmism is here to rule for the foreseable future whatever facts sceptics may cite.
97% of climate research report findings cannot be reproduced.
GeeJam…just wait til tomorrow at least before giving the BBC a pass mark on this one.
“Wamron says:
May 18, 2013 at 5:33 am
āGermans really hate the British. My impression is that for many its because they resent our part in liberating them from Communism whilst for most of the rest its that they resent our part in putting down the Third Reich. For many its simply the shame of having been the school-yard bully of Europe defeated and pillaged by the school-yard āweaklingā.
That said, the British abroad are such arrogant assholes, who wouldnt dislike them?ā
Iām German and I think I found a great idiot.”
Yeah, …so explain the two young Germans talking to me on Oranienburger Strasse (where they’ll rub shoulders with plenty of British and other nationalities, of whom they say they hate most the French) and who told me “You are the first nice British person we’ve ever met”? They out-vote you two to one.
Being British I am much better positioned to express an opinion on this than you……Germans are forever telling me how “other” Germans hate the English, whilst plenty of those “other” Germans express it in rants. Some in the most unlikely of situations, such as the woman at a BVG info desk who screamed at me “I do not speak English, I am German, this is Germany.”. Thats a prepared rant I’ve heard twice. Other rants have been in German.
No worries, you are he idiot and I have a prepared answer for all of you: “You owe us everything you have”.
Stuff that in your meerschaum and puff it son.
…..besides which, if you aint been to sample opinion in Marzhan Hellersdorf or further East than that…then you aint got a clue what your real “compatriots” think.
…I will re-post that for clarity:
DIRK H SAYS:
“Iām German and I think I found a great idiot.ā
To which I reply:
Yeah, ā¦so explain the two young Germans talking to me on Oranienburger Strasse (where theyāll rub shoulders with plenty of British and other nationalities, of whom they say they hate most the French) and who told me āYou are the first nice British person weāve ever metā? They out-vote you two to one.
Being British I am much better positioned to express an opinion on this than youā¦ā¦Germans are forever telling me how āotherā Germans hate the English, whilst plenty of those āotherā Germans express it in rants. Some in the most unlikely of situations, such as the woman at a BVG info desk who screamed at me āI do not speak English, I am German, this is Germany.ā. Thats a prepared rant Iāve heard twice. Other rants have been in German.
No worries, you are he idiot and I have a prepared answer for all of you: āYou owe us everything you haveā.
Stuff that in your meerschaum and puff it son.
ā¦..besides which, if you aint been to sample opinion in Marzhan Hellersdorf or further East than thatā¦then you aint got a clue what your real ācompatriotsā think.
97% of socialists don’t like capitalism
97% of statisticians believe in the power of statistics
97% of French people speak French
97% of the English think the French are stupid (note: Applies only in Europe, not Canada)
I could go ont, this is a fun game š
But have you noticed that 50% of all people have a below average IQ š
97% of Afghan climate scientists believe in the Taliban. The others live in Dubai.
97% of oncologists think radiation and chemotherapy are useful
97% of Marxists thank God they’re atheists.
97% of tumours contain dihydrogen monoxide
AT LEAST 97% of those alive today will die!
97% of climatologists appreciate government grants
97% of escorts appreciate paying customers.
97% of original paper reports of temperature recordings have been eaten by dogs.
Jon you must be joking. Of course there was warming. What makes you think the posters here think it has cooled since the nineties? We had a super El NiƱo that heated things up!
97% of Russian biologists in 1957 disagreed with genetics … at least in public!
The other 3% were unemployed or in gulagsl.
97% of Soviet Biologists were 100% in support of Lysenko.
Wamron says among other things on May 18, 2013 at 4:48 am
English officer US revolutionary war: āI thay ole chap theeeth Yankies they dont fight pwoper, they wont stand up in bwightly cowered jackets in wines like ower wedcoats to be shwot at pwoperly like a swoldier shwood. I fwink I will give up thith wawer ath itth a bwit ugwyā.
Are you taking the pith? I am English and do not lithp, I speak pworperlee. I doth protetht, you are being lithpitht, which is a crime againtht hueman righths.
Robert of Ottowa.
Im Engwith twoo but I aint no wedcoat.
Wamron, give it a break. Anecdotal evidence is as good as TIm cook’s statistics. I can see why some Germans do not like you. However, until you have talked to a vast majority of them, you have no case.
And your rants are a distraction.
The sun, the moon,and the truth will rise,
I just kind of assume people who really obviously and crassly lie to me are probably not really on my side.
Maybe it’s just me.
95% of cats prefer ‘Happy Cat’ (paraphrasing an add for cat food in the UK).
My cat does not, he prefers ‘Even More Happy Cat’
I am one of the 3% that’s actually quite a bit larger. Am I like my cat?
97% of potato growers thought that Lysenko was right.
What’s the difference between Climatologists and Astrophysicists in Cambridge (UK, I mean).
97% of the climatologists know they are right and get the lovey-dovey Nobel Prize (kind of).
97% of the astrophysicists know they are right, but its the odd-one out who gets a real Nobel prize.
97% percent of property insurers think that we should buy cover against the effects of climate change.
Considering last 16 years…
97 % of climate scientist are wondering murphy’s law…
CO2 is found inside greenhouses and greenhouses are warm, therefor, using the special rule of “climate logic” 97% of the warming is caused by CO2.
97% of water on earth is saltwater.
97% of the employees who work for the IRS are liberal, progressive democrats.
and, 97% of them take no conservative prisoners.
97% of scientists who believe in global warming also believe human carbon dioxide emissions contribute to global warming. 100% of mathematicians call this a dimensionless quantity. I checked.
In dimensional analysis, a dimensionless quantity or quantity of dimension one is a quantity without an associated physical dimension.
97% of my beer has been consumed, I’m now working on the 3%. š
“philjourdan says:
May 18, 2013 at 7:20 pm
Wamron, give it a break. Anecdotal evidence is as good as TIm cookās statistics. I can see why some Germans do not like you. However, until you have talked to a vast majority of them, you have no case.
And your rants are a distraction.”
Phil Jourdan
You sound like a VERY BOOOOOOORING PERSON.
Your comment is boring because I could have written it myself…when I was a boring twenty-something. However, I find life is only liveable if you inject some attitude. Of which you appear to have none. Choose lifeless and colourless and tasteless if you wish, but my experience is 97% or more of what counts for me.
HOWEVER…what you say is also thoroughly flawed. Observational evidence is not “anecdotal” when it generates and can be confirmed by predictable repetition. Anecdotal evidence is the reported observation which cannot be repeated whereas what I report are observations which can be repeated by anyone who cares to go to Berlin and make such observations. I say Berlin because, well, as in most things it may be that the city is different to the rest of Germany and I realise I have again generalised from the unique location to the country it represents an exception to. .
Anyway, that repeatability is a basic tenet of Popperian falsification. Which I will come to, but not yet……………Firstly you unambiguously exhibit poor comprehension skills and invert what I quite clearly stated: I actually said that the Germans I referred to said they LIKED me, but that I am the only English person they had met who they did…..180 degrees opposite of what you thought Id had written. Fail on your part.
Secondly, I never made my comments apropos ALL Germans (as the line referred to above indicates, had you shown primary comprehension skills when reading it).Fail again. I guess you can also find English people who dont hate Germans, myself for example. But for Dirk H to say that he can generalise from his own self to that of all Germans is as absurd as my denying that upwards of half of all English in any opinion survey state a dislike of Germans on the grounds that I dont myself.
Thirdly, I’m not talking about incidental Germans, but the actual experience of actually being In Germany a large part of my time. Whilst being screamed at by a woman in a peaked cap because I asked if she spoke English tends to make an impression. Your predictable whine of “anecdotal evidence” is somewhat jejeune given the Popperian validation of my hypothesis by its predictive capacity. And such “II do not speak English, this is Germany” rants do occur predictably.
Fourthly, its Germans themselves who tell me they hate the English. Is it “anecdotal” of someone to declare what they believe their own attitude. Well whether we can really know what we really feel is a question, but you are pushing the boat out there. When a guy says in good humoured tone “Agh, you are English, I hate the %^^$&* English” he either speaks literally for what he knows about himnself, or ironically for what he knows of others among his community.
Fifthly, surveys support what I say. More worryingly, that at least a third of all Germans (not just Berliners) are as anti-semitic as ever.
Sixthly..you are boring. Maybe I mentioned that, but its worth repeating. If I cannot poke you with a stick and see you jigger then whats the point? What are my “rants” a distraction from? The efforts at trying to be humorous displayed by the majority of people here are suicidally dull and witless. Have you got something brilliant to add? Come on, show us your irons.
…oh yeah, you aint actually Phil Jourdan either, he aint so boring, and adopting a less boring persons name just shows how aware of being boring a person must be!
97% of Austrians believed joining Nazi Germany was a magnificent idea
97% of donuts are eaten by cops
97% of spitballs are made of spit and paper
97% of residents of Babylon 5 believe Ivanova is god (bad example, because everyone knows she is god)
97% of bees prefer honey
97% of bears prefer picnic baskets
97% of trees have barks
97% of dogs bark at trees (there is a connection I tell you)
97% of cats are out to kill you
97% of humans dismiss this thought as ridiculous (until their cat kills them)
97% of posters here are having too much fun with this
As for the Germans, which seem to cause some kind of ruckus… Let me put it this way: 200,000 Germans protested against nuclear power in the wake of the Tohoku quake and tsunami, while the German media compared Fukushima #1 with Hitler’s bunker and said that minors, foreigners and homeless people were pressed into service by TEPCO for cleaning up there. No Germans protested against the North Korean nuclear test. German media cried murder over the Japanese daring to vote for the LDP and NInK over the DPJ and several anti-nuclear parties, but they remain dead silent over Chinese aggression in Japanese waters and territorial claims (latest claim: Okinawa; a Hong Kong pro-politbĆ¼ro paper claimed that Okinawa is Chinese territory.) So don’t make me start on them.
97% of election results with a 97% margin of victory were rigged.
97% of dogs prefer dog food.
97% of Kilroy was here.
Edohigima….are you Japanese? We only drifted off onto Germany because of the point that post-communist communities do not necessarily welcome their freedom, that being indicative of (in my contention) the likelihood that CAGW ideology will remain in force in the West irrespective of any rational refutation of its basis.My underlying point being that to try to counter CAGW propaganda by argument is futile.
And just for the record, I dont care what Germans (or Berliners) think about anything, whether they hate my nationality (which I do to, as I thoroughly detest and loath the English) or even their calling me “untermensch” in Kaisers……..I still love them!
…but I understand and sympathise with your point. I just think it says more about the mentality of the Left. They scream blue murder over soldiers disposing of damaged books but say nothing about 100 million girls being genitally mutilated according to the directives of said book.
Wamron says:
May 19, 2013 at 9:42 am
Megaphonitis?
“mogamboguru says:
May 19, 2013 at 9:58 am
Wamron says:
May 19, 2013 at 9:42 am
Megaphonitis?”
No, narcissistic personality traits, and I am not ashamed of it.
97% of American murderers ate potatoes in the three days prior to killing their victims. This obviously means that . . . QED.
(This was a running joke with me and my old Army buddies. 43 years ago.)
Steve Garcia
97% of climatologists on the Gummint nosebag believe in some sort of imminent catastrophe with certain riders and disclaimers-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/may/19/climate-change-meltdown-unlikely-research?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
9 out of 10 prison inmates enjoy gang rape.
At 20 I also learned to be mouthy. At 40 I learned when to speak and when to stay silent. A bit of wisdom you have yet to learn.
97% of Tea Party groups that applied for tax free status are still waiting to hear if they’ve been approved.
97% of climate scientists should get out more…
“97% of the paranoid believe they’re being followed.”
You’d be paranoid if 97% of all people were out to get you, too.
Cook explains the situation at his site:
“This result isn’t surprising for two reasons:
1) most journals have strict word limits for their abstracts, and
2) frankly, every scientist doing climate research knows humans are causing global warming. There’s no longer a need to state something so obvious. For example, would you expect every geological paper to note in its abstract that the Earth is a spherical body that orbits the sun?”
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97% of those who fantasize about Hockey Sticks prefer fantasy to facts.
97% of those who produce Hockey Sticks believe irrational numbers are rational.
97% of those who profit from Hockey Sticks rationalize irrational numbers.
I, ah, can clap with one hand. Its not an imaginary thing.
Seems 97% of warmists are as brilliant as a post I dug up at SKS: “heat is not temperature”.