English Winters Back To Normal–Julia Blames Global Warming!

Seriously how often must a public sector employee fail in their job before being penalised?, as for the bonus this is a terrible indictment on the outrageous misuse of taxpayer money so beloved by the UK state.

Facts are stubborn things. The facts are the models failed to predict the cooling. The facts are there is no evidence for CAGW. So go ahead and continue to assign causality to spurious correlations (warmer arctic?/colder European winters) sea ice and a warmer arctic aren’t the same thing. Met has no credibility with thinking people; .

As for how cold the Winter of 1962/63 was, Thank God that I wasn’t born until 1967. ((((Shiver))))

So now global warming causes abnormally normal weather.
And no one is firing these idiots, or laughing them off the planet.
Screw it. I give up. I’m old enough that I won’t see the worst results of their insanity anyway. Let ’em drag the human race back into the Stone Age, and then extinction.

-She shares Willis’s interest in clouds though;
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/pace/graduation/honorary-degrees/hondeg10/slingo.html

The glorious Met Office actually believe that UK peak power demand will shift to summer? Is there more than one UK on this planet? Or are they talking about a “virtual” UK?
“Impacts on the UK energy industry”
“Using our climate models to assess future temperature increases, we looked at how this could effect all aspects of the energy industry. This included factoring in issues such as the affect of heat on the efficiency of thermal power stations. We also studied the potential changes in demand as our seasons are altered under climate change – such as an expected shift in peak power demand to the summer as people rely more on air conditioning.”
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/services/climate-services/uk/ukcp/impacts/energy

Same old story. If it is warm it’s global warming.If it’s cold it’s cold it’s global warming. dry…global warming,wet…..global warming,sunny global warming,cloudy….. Maybe we should ask them instead what would not represent global warming! Just sayin don’t ya know?

What an ignorant rationalization for the recent weather and for their utter failure in predicting it.

It’s worth looking at observed temps compared to the long term temps on the longest record of climatological observations in science. It makes for grim reading..http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=cet;sess=

It is time for the Wet Orifice to be made accountable.

Julia Slingo knows that Tarot cards are much better than science. Why use science when it does not give you the answer you want.
Why do a real PhD when the university will just give you an honorary one anyway.

Is there any wonder why the UK had become irrelevant since Maggie Thacher? They no longer believe in excellence, like their European counterparts, the results of zombies like this dead beat speak for themselves.

Manfred says:
April 12, 2013 at 1:09 pm
None of those links is real science. Just speculation. Read carefully

Gareth Phillips says:
April 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm
That link is to a cet made from chosen station data. The site says that the temp it gives does not relate well to HadCET and it doesn’t. It is a good site but not good data.

Green Sand says:
April 12, 2013 at 12:42 pm
This is the famous R Betts work. Say no more.

Chas says:
April 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm
-She shares Willis’s interest in clouds though;
http://www.bristol.ac.uk/pace/graduation/honorary-degrees/hondeg10/slingo.html
That is disgusting. To give away a DSc in a packet of kellogs. It’s the highest science degree possible. It carries all the kudos of Eistein, Newton et al (none of whom received it).

Stephen Richards says:
April 12, 2013 at 1:25 pm
“Manfred says:
April 12, 2013 at 1:09 pm
None of those links is real science. Just speculation. Read carefully”
So you are saying that the guys who computed the correlation between the solar cycle and the freezings of the Rhine didn’t do real science. That’s interesting. Are you a kind of science umpire?
You might want to tell the Uni Mainz about your findings.
http://www.uni-mainz.de/presse/52970.php

They should feel soooo embarrassed now whenever they say “Using our climate models…” – What a joke!
Please tell me nobody take Slingo seriously.
It’s time to hollow out these institutions and start over with people with no afflitiation and no bias. Sad to say, it should also be filled with a low paid bracket of scientists (sorry to all scientists), as low pay might actually keep the greens and the other egotists out of it.
The world over, we need dedication to the truth and the presentation of evidence, not starlets waving a graph they just made up. And yes, let’s not be sexist, Michael Mann and the rest are starlets, too.

I am all for a thorough investigation of the Met office.

Slingo called for an urgent investigation. I think we know who should be investigated.

Unfortunately we can’t test this as the previous winter is now historical record. But does anybody on the planet doubt that had this winter been abnormally warm in jolly ole England that it also would have been the fault of shrinking ice caps?

What does a “chief scientist” get a 30k bonus for? Showing up on time, counting on both hands? Perhaps it is based on some Wall Streetesque logarithm of performance based on how many suckers you can bamboozle.

albertalad says:
Is there any wonder why the UK had become irrelevant since Maggie Thacher?
Well since you can’t even spell here name I guess you were not following UK politics that closely at the time. Let be bring you up to speed.
She sold off all our national assets to foreign investors. Massive assets like British Telecom were sold off at half price. Gas was sold. The mines were shut, Making our biggest natural resource unexploitable in the future. (Once the galleries are no longer maintained they can never be reopened).
She shut down the country’s manufacturing base and instead made the economy reliant on the financial services sector that she deregulated. Unemployment rose from 1 million when she came to power to 4 million when we (belatedly) threw her out.
The deregulation of the banks resulted in the current mess where we just about doubled our national debt in ONE year with bank bail outs.
The current round of “austerity” that is destroying public services and creating even more unemployment and putting the economy in an ever deepening spiral, is now apparently necessary to reduce the huge debt we incurred underwriting irresponsible , deregulated banks.
Britain now imports most of its energy including coal and gas from abroad, with little manufacturing base to pay for any of it.
So it is no wonder that Britain is becoming irrelevant since Thatcher . She ripped the arse out of the country and sowed the seeds of the decay that now characterises a once great country.
BTW, she also was instrumental in starting the CO2 scam as one of her top ministers: Leon Britten stated in the “The Great Global Warming Swindle” . She opened the Met Office Hadley Climate Research Centre, where the above mentioned Ms Sling-ya-hook is currently chief climate propagandist.
But of course , no one likes to speak ill of the dead , so instead calling her a bitch like we did when she was alive, we’ll laud her a great patriot and bury her at St Paul’s with full honours.

The winter of 62/63, we lived in a new house, and with a roaring fire in the living room there was 1/2 of ice on the windows…was that global warming?

There has certainly been a sharp drop away from the abnormally mild winters between 1998 and 2008
I’d say between 1988 and 2008, not 1998 and 2008.
In 1988 the NAO went into a multi year positive mode which now is fading: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/JFM_season_nao_index.shtml
The 1988 temperature step is visible in a lot of European temperature series.

Indeed, how is it possible that a meteorologist discusses this issue without even mentioning NAO. If there is one thing you always need to make clients or the public aware of is that multidecadal fluctuations are a normal phenomenon which you need to be prepared for.

Seriously sick of the lies now. She is an ideologically driven but.

The Met Office is only able to “now cast” . Even Slingo has alluded to theit ability to forecast is based on probabilities, suggesting inadvertently maybe that one would do better going to one’ s local bookmaker. UK politicians need to wake up to the fact the Met Office is less than useless and using taxpayers money to fund them is simply an utter waste of money.

Great summary Paul. Thanks.

Wasn’t it the Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank who said we “want to load the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing .” And, by the way, it was his Massachusetts colleague who was cosponsor of the Waxman/Markey carbon cap & trade scheme.
Now we’ve got this:
‘Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo said climate change was “loading the dice” towards freezing, drier weather — and called publicly for the first time for an urgent investigation’
I dunno. But anytime I hear anybody affiliated with government use the term, ‘load the dice’ I think of them gambling with our money. And, at that roulette table they don’t have to win, break-even, or even so much as be practical or stay sober. And, remember, it’s not their’s, it’s our money. And, then, in public they use gambling terms referring to cheating. Now think about that and have a good night’s sleep.

First of all Margaret Thatcher did not rip the arse out of Britain…she rebuilt it and we had an amazing recovery that lasted until Laour took over a budget surplus in 1997and plunged us into debt. As regards our winter climate Ms Sligo should consult a solar physicist…you might get a few clues Julia…what a muppet.

Here are some previous predictions of milder winters from the Met Office, the IPCC, scientists and the Warmist media. Here is a sample from the 60 quotes.

“In the UK wetter winters are expected which will lead to more extreme rainfall, whereas summers are expected to get drier. However, it is possible under climate change that there could be an increase of extreme rainfall even under general drying.”
Telegraph, Dr. Peter Stott, Met Office, 24 July 2007
“The past is no longer a guide to the future. We no longer have a stationary climate,”…
Independent, Dr. Peter Stott, Met Office, 27 Jul 2007
“Milder winter temperatures will decrease heavy snowstorms but could cause an increase in freezing rain if average daily temperatures fluctuate about the freezing point.”
IPCC Climate Change, 2001
“The lowest winter temperatures are likely to increase more than average winter temperature in northern Europe. …The duration of the snow season is very likely to shorten in all of Europe, and snow depth is likely to decrease in at least most of Europe.”
IPCC Climate Change, 2007

Climate fail. What I want to know is what would they say if we returned to milder, less snowy winters??? i am becoming dazed and confused. 🙁

I think I have it figured out. Entirely from news clippings, not models or data. We’re caught in a cyclical phenomenon:
1970’s; Catastrophic Ice Age coming! We’re all gonna die!
1990’s; Catastrophic Warming coming! We’re all gonna die!
2010’s; Catastrophic Normal coming! We’re all gonna die!
Now there’s a couple of odd things about these cyclical predictions. First, they are 50% correct. We’re all gonna die (eventually). Second, the order seems messed up. I would have thought cold/normal/hot rather than cold/hot/normal. But many a climate scientist has made a fool of themselves by attaching a linear trend to cyclical phenomenon, so I’m not going to make that mistake. I’ll not predict the next phase of the cycle until more data has been gathered. I’ve no idea if the next phase will be warm or cold. We could have two normals in succession I suppose, but that seems remote.

And since Overland and Wang are at it again with Arctic Sea Ice, it’s going to get colder… sarc/

I live in the UK and when people tell me this winter has been cold I can’t believe them.
When I was a lad in the fifties we used to go sledging nearly every year. That meant days of lying snow every year for days on end. We had one significant splodge this year (OK it was lateish) and that was it. I think we do get more White Easters than White Christmasses – in spite of Bing.
1979, I think it was, had deep ruts on the main roads for weeks. 1963 had unbelievable amounts of snow for the UK midlands. My father told me that 1947 was similar. They used pneumatic drills to clear the roads locally then. The ice was solid and immovable.
Incidentally, those years 1947, 1963 and 1979 were all separated by 16 years. We were told that this 16 year cycle would continue to get colder and colder until we were plunged into the next ice age. Then it got warmer.
I can see no evidence that natural variability has been exceeded because it is not the warmest winter I can remember either.

Here is another Dr. Viner moment.

“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry.”
David Viner, Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, 14 Feb 2004

Recently we had:

Earlier today, it was announced that the Cairngorms ski area would be closed due to blizzard conditions and severe drifting.
Daily Record – 22 March 2013
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/wintry-snap-bites-snowfall-winds-1778553

and

Scottish ski resorts eye summer season
FORGET the beach barbecues. Scots could be heading to the slopes this June, with two of the country’s ski resorts predicting there will still be snow on the ground at the height of summer.
The Scotsman – 7 April 2013
http://www.scotsman.com/news/environment/scottish-ski-resorts-eye-summer-season-1-2881471

and

The snowstorms in the UK have brought a huge boost to Scotland’s mountain ski areas. All report unprecedented conditions for the time of year. Easter is set to be one of the best. It has been quite a winter for the UK ski slopes.
There are good winters in Scotland and there are bad ones.
The weather is unreliable, changeable and can not be relied upon for snowsports.
This winter we are happy to report on PlanetSKI that it is currently epic. Perhaps too epic.
The current weather means some resorts were closed because of too much snow and wind.
Planet Ski – March 29, 2013
http://www.planetski.eu/news/4784

Viner and others were wrong, again, but this is a sure sign of global warming. I don’t know ‘weather’ to laugh or cry. Yet they call us deniers, doubters, contrarians. Sheeeesh!!!

Joseph says:
April 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Seriously how often must a public sector employee fail in their job before being penalised?
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Don’t ask us…….we had Hansen, Lisa Jackson and Obama all at once.
No penalty just extra money for them to spend.
cn

P. Solar says:
April 12, 2013 at 2:22 pm
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Your review about Thatcher is wrong wrong wrong.
Unemployent was about 1.4 million in 1979 but alreay sharply rising, and 2 million when she let in 1990.
Inflation was at about 10% in 1979 sharply rising to 22% in 1980, then going down to 3% and up to 9% in 1990.
Coal production was contnuing in 1990 with a reduction of only about 25% versus 1979 levels.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22070491
The current problems have little to do with deregulation of the financial sector.
The opposite is true. The main reason is state interference. After all, we experience a government debt crisis allover Europe, the US and Canada.
The main reason for the desaster are far too low interest rates since the 1990s until today, and those reponsible are Greenspan, Krugman, Clinton and their counterparts in Europe.
Too low interest rates means a transfer of wealth from savers to speculators and debt makers.
The financial sector grew to its monstrous dimensions in the 1990s. Hedge fonds emerged like mushrooms and individuals with connections and access to credits got unbelievably rich by pure speculation.
The first malfunctions in the 1990s (Asia Crisis, Mexico, Crisis, Long Term Capital Hedgefond collaps) were “repaired” by even lower interest rates and bailouts. This was the emergence of the “Greenspan put” – speculators will eventually bailed out at taxpayers expense and lead inadvertedly to the stock market bubble in 2000.
Though the stock market bubble collpase would have already requied a 1930s style depression to clean up the system and return the size of the financial sector back to Thatcher/Reagan times, it did not happen, because soon after, the housing bubble took over, also initiated in the 1990s with innovations like NINJA credits – housing for everyone, even without job, income or assets – and the subprime credit bundles.
That eventially blew up in 2008. And the response was … government intervention at taxpayers expense and creation of massive addtional debt.
Money printing has continued since then and is accelerating. In the West the cheap money is still flowing into speculation and assets price inflation and still taken out of the pockets of ordinary people, savers, pensioners and working midlle class, while in emerging market, the ultracheap money is creating overproduction which in some sectors already resembles the US 1929 economy.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Thatcher and Reagan’s reign, the economy then was characterized by very high interest rates, which gave savers a decent return, avoided speculation and new industrial capacity was only financable with very sound fundamentals.

Soon to be former Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo says: “I look forward to my forced retirement when UKIP is elected, as it will free up my days to research the most optimal placement for tinfoil around my cranium.”
Yes indeed Julia, your life will be well spent on that pursuit. Carry on…

Jeff says:
April 12, 2013 at 3:02 pm
…I say give Slingo and the Met a Trash-80 (TRS-80) complete with tape unit
(and a couple of audio cassettes….see if they can tell the difference [the data say….oops])
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Get one for Phil so he can lose non-reproducible historical data even easier.
It doesn’t come loaded with Excel, does it?
cn

The warmists are the only group that trys to argue both sides of the coin (warming and cooling) and blame global warming. I said to my friends many years ago that they would try and do it.

Greenland ice core shows Arctic was warmer than today during the MWP.
That Arctic warming never caused cooling in Europe.

The more I see people like Slingo blame everything on Global Warming the more I am convinced that there is some sort of mental illness at play, or ar least some sort of phobia.
Not too long ago AGW was going to cause warm dry winters, now it’s causing cold wet winters. Seriously???

I think this post has not only broken a record for most ad Hominim attacks per hour, but also the record for highest ratio of ad Hom’s to scientific information.
A person can often learn a lot from WUWT comments. Unfortunately, this is not one of those cases. JP

Just two points, for conversation, not controversy: Julia? Obama’s campaign poster girl and Eric Blair’s heroine in 1984. Hmmmm
Next, study two essential elements of the human condition: the growing of wine grapes and war. The first chronicles the sweeping effects of the climate changes that have occurred in just the last three hundred years; the second, the human suffering of brutal winters in 1918-19 and 1945-46, both not entirely freee of the effects of industrialization, particularly in Europe.

John Parsons says:
April 12, 2013 at 5:57 pm
I think this post has not only broken a record for most ad Hominim attacks per hour, but also the record for highest ratio of ad Hom’s to scientific information.
A person can often learn a lot from WUWT comments. Unfortunately, this is not one of those cases. JP
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You don’t have to like it.
In fact, you don’t have to read it.
Your call.

So why in the wordl would you blame cooling on warming and instead look back at the record and blame the sun or some patttern present last time it cooled? It’s called science, try it Slingo.

Joseph says:
April 12, 2013 at 12:14 pm
Seriously how often must a public sector employee fail in their job before being penalised?

I always thought failure was a requirement for job retention. Apparently they think so too.

She says these dumb things to the public because she knows full well that the AGW conjecture does not support her belief that some open water AROUND the margins of a large ice cap in the WINTER (yes, it is well covered in the winter time) does not really make it colder a thousand or two miles to the south colder.

AlecM says:
April 12, 2013 at 3:45 pm
Dangerous to spout such heresy here at WUWT where lukewarmers predominate, AlecM, but I unreservedly side with you.
No need to torture a false confession out of mathematics, physics and temperature records – Nature has already performed the experiment and it’s there staring at us. I’ve said all this before, many times.
If back radiation exists for carbon dioxide then it must also exist for, and be exceeded by, methane – most agree with this hypothesis. Now consider Titan and Ganymede, two giant gas planet moons of comparable size and mass.
Ganymede has effectively no atmosphere and is much further from the Sun than Titan (Jupiter is farther away than Saturn, obviously). You would reasonably think it was much, much colder than Titan. Fair enough. Ganymede’s average surface temperature is -174.3C
Titan has an appreciable atmosphere, about 1.5% of which is the dread greenhouse gas methane (most of the rest is nitrogen). So you would reasonably expect it’s average surface temperature to be much more than that of Ganymede. In fact it is -179.2C.
So: in spite of being much closer to the Sun, and being blessed with a greenhouse gas rich atmosphere, Titan is if anything marginally colder than Ganymede.
Oops, embarrassing.
This is why I agree with you, AlecM. Such empirical evidence as there is seems to demolish the greenhouse theory.
I really do wish that more people knew this, then we could all get back to a normal life. But some fat chance.
LG

As Karl Popper explained in “Conjectures and Refutations”, a theory that explains everything cannot be tested and is therefore “psuedoscience”. One wonders if people like Julia realize the harm that she is causing to real science. She worries about a warming world when she should be much more concerned about her destructiion of science.

Pat Michaels says:
April 12, 2013 at 9:10 pm
As Karl Popper explained in “Conjectures and Refutations”, a theory that explains everything cannot be tested and is therefore “psuedoscience”. One wonders if people like Julia realize the harm that she is causing to real science. She worries about a warming world when she should be much more concerned about her destructiion of science.
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John Parsons – do you not understand that this post and Anthony’s evisceration of the points this person makes are not ad hominem attacks. They are a sound destruction of her science. Commenters have moved on from this and questioned her abilities, ethics and motives.
For example, if I question her motives and call her a climate science whore, that’s because I believe her to be a climate science whore, with her “fee” being paid for, most likely unwittingly, by the British taxpayer, via the pimp government. The science is already destroyed based on Popperian principles. No one is saying her pronouncements are wrong because she’s an idiot and climate science whore. They’re wrong because they’re shit science. The fact that she appears to be an idiot and climate science whore is perhaps what makes this so, but not necessarily.
On the other hand, of course, this is all deliberate shit science, and many of the voting sheeple will believe the sound bytes, so she’s probably not an idiot. In fact, I would hazard a guess that she’s a very intelligent climate science whore.

I lost the header:
“Mann libel case postponed”
cn

From what I could see of the newspaper article, somehow global warming at the north pole is pushing the colder air south. This does not make any sense. Why is it warming preferentially at the pole compared to lower latitudes? Warm air is lighter than cold air. Why would not the denser cold air come in underneath the warm air causing the warm air to rise drawing the colder air further north? How does warmer arctic air make it colder elsewhere?
At least some sort of causal relationship should be given that would stand up in an introduction to meteorology , other than warmer air is pushing the colder air south.

Are these people for real, just desperate, or delusional? You can’t have it “every way”.

@LevelGaze April 12, 2013 at 8:31 pm
Yes, correct, there is no empirical evidence of ‘back radiation’. What’s more, it’s easy for this grizzled old metallurgical engineer turned applied scientist to prove that there is near zero net CO2 surface IR emission, subject to thermal incoherency. The same goes for all major GHG bands. If this did not happen, we could never get radiative thermal equilibrium. In order to understand this, I devised three rate equations to explain coupled convection and radiation to the dim climate alchemists, and they truly are dim to believe the guff they spout.
Here’s something I wrote to Roy Spencer:
It’s time someone nailed back radiation by linking to the basic physics [Goody and Yung is the source].
Basically, climate alchemy adds 134.5 W/m^2 radiative warming out of thin air by assuming the energy leaving the Earth’s surface is 3.1 times greater than that which arrives.
This is justified by 333 ‘back radiation’, which does not exist except as a potential energy flux to a sink at absolute zero. They claim they measure this by a pyrometer which internally converts the ‘temperature’ of the lower atmosphere via the S-B equation to its potential energy flux – pyrgeometers. This is a 50+ year old mistake from meteorology.
Exaggerated warming of sunlit oceans is offset by exaggerated cloud albedo so they get the ‘right temperature’ in hind-casting. Because of the exponential evaporation kinetics there is vastly increased evaporation in sunlit oceans yet average temperature seems OK. This gives the imaginary positive feedback.
They then give themselves Nobel prizes for being very good a cheating.

Re the Margaret Thatcher debate I can’t help but notice the irony of the socialist/greenie brigade demonising fossil fuel use whilst at the same time villifying her for closing the coal mines!

Paul, I think your thread title should refer to Britain’s winters, or the UK’s winters. Regarding England as being the same of the UK is a bane for for the people of Scotland, Wales and Ireland. After all we don’t refer to the US as a substitute for North America, or do we? As you know we have devolved governments in the UK making us to an extent a federal state, and as such different countries have different policies. Labelling to all countries as England can cause confusion in who’s policies you a referring to.

[snip . . OT . . mod]

Slingo need to invest in an Ouija board.

AlecM says: April 12, 2013 at 3:45 pm
The root cause of this humongous mistake has been ‘back radiation’…
LevelGaze says: April 12, 2013 at 8:31 pm
… I unreservedly side with you…
Me too. I checked out the mathematical equations used by IPCC for the radiative flux and realized that the IPCC equations were totally flawed and postulated an “atmosphere-less” temperature for Earth that was far too high. “33 degrees useful warming due to GHG” is transparent rubbish. I realized that evidence for this mistake was staring us in the face, both from temperatures at high altitudes on Earth and from temperatures on the Moon’s surface. Why in Heaven’s name had others not spotted this and spoken up?
That was one bridge too far for most at WUWT. Then I went even further, in connecting this mistake with another mistake made by a scientist for whom I have otherwise huge respect both as a scientist and as a man… James Clerk Maxwell.
After realizing all that, and even writing it up nice and clearly here for people to understand, I stood back from Science. It was too big a burden for me to carry alone even though I know that the science I found is correct… and that Graeff deserves the Nobel Prize for his almost-completely-unknown work…
All this “discovery” awaits a younger generation.

Anthony, who complains of being harshly treated by his critics has a “moderation” policy that allows these through:
Seriously how often must a public sector employee fail in their job before being penalised?
And no one is firing these idiots, or laughing them off the planet.
Screw it. I give up. I’m old enough that I won’t see the worst results of their insanity anyway. Let ‘em drag the human race back into the Stone Age, and then extinction.
This is just speculation from somebody with a credibility of zero
Time to go Mrs. Slingo – your flatulent rambling; incoherent oratory, schoolgirl-like dire excuses, pseudo science and boneheaded adherence to a political fiction [CAGW] are becoming a tad tiresome, just bu88er off to somewhere where your bogus delphic climate divinations can inflict less damage to the British economy and what remains of our industrial base.
Maybe she’s just angling for an even-bigger computer.
Is her bonus linked to her BS quotient?
Julia Slingo knows that Tarot cards are much better than science. Why use science when it does not give you the answer you want. Why do a real PhD when the university will just give you an honorary one anyway.
the results of zombies like this dead beat speak for themselves.
My god; and this halfwit is their senior scientist. No wonder they are such a shambles. For crying out loud someone close that b”é””dy nest of vipers.
What the hell wouldn’t be the fault of global warming in the eyes of these fruit loops?
We should nickname Julia the ‘Red Queen’.
The world over, we need dedication to the truth and the presentation of evidence, not starlets waving a graph they just made up.
170,000 pounds per year + provision for retirement in keeping with the manner of her professional life + general overhead for her supercomputer, + secretaries, + personal travel to Bali, + a team of statisticians who really, really know how to run Excel and understand the word ‘significant’. This climate change parasite is costing the saps in the UK millions…and her only achievement is the death of a few thousand saps a year who cannot afford to heat their homes properly. But that is better than the alternative – no free money and conferences in warm places for Julia.
Slingo called for an urgent investigation. I think we know who should be investigated.
She she be now known as JuLiar Slingo from now on, the utter crap she spews is sickening.
So, despite being utterly incompetent and irresponsible, her job is safe.
Could you be any more illogical or unscientific ?
What does a “chief scientist” get a 30k bonus for? Showing up on time, counting on both hands? Perhaps it is based on some Wall Streetesque logarithm of performance based on how many suckers you can bamboozle.
There is so much money involved in this scam that Im very doubtful that the North Pole information is even true.. Their little playground where the only witnesses are the Inuit (promised huge sums of money to help them deal with the warming)..
BTW, she also was instrumental in starting the CO2 scam as one of her top ministers: Leon Britten stated in the “The Great Global Warming Swindle” . She opened the Met Office Hadley Climate Research Centre, where the above mentioned Ms Sling-ya-hook is currently chief climate propagandist.
She’s a twit.
Julia…what a muppet.
its just that I sweat heaps when I lie.”
Soon to be former Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo says: “I look forward to my forced retirement when UKIP is elected, as it will free up my days to research the most optimal placement for tinfoil around my cranium.”
Yes indeed Julia, your life will be well spent on that pursuit. Carry on…
Go now, Julia. (That’s two Julia’s who should go now)
The more I see people like Slingo blame everything on Global Warming the more I am convinced that there is some sort of mental illness at play, or ar least some sort of phobia.
Is it possible to sell your soul more than once, or is there a limit ?
So all we can do is point and laugh at the sheer stupidity..
Do people like her know just how silly they look?
Julia is the worst kind of denier – she is steeped in self-denial and is likely the only person left with an interest in climate who doesn’t think she’s profoundly incompetent.
I always thought failure was a requirement for job retention. Apparently they think so too.
That’s why I label people like Slingo, Mann, and other “climate scientists” Catastrophic Anthropogenic Genocidal Warmistas.
It looks to me like Sligo is suggesting that somebody else should be doing her job.
One wonders if people like Julia realize the harm that she is causing to real science. She worries about a warming world when she should be much more concerned about her destructiion of science.
Feeding the public silly unscientific theories that have no empircial basis should be anathema to a true scientist.
Are these people for real, just desperate, or delusional?
Slingo must be fired without a pension for all the damage she has done to the UK and world.
They then give themselves Nobel prizes for being very good a cheating.
Idiot!
What a silly woman.
Slingo need to invest in an Ouija board.
What we really need is for Julia Sligbat to be urgently fired from her job.

pottereaton says:
April 12, 2013 at 10:19 pm
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Has any peer-reviewed paper been written yet that persuasively argues that warming in the Arctic causes cooling in Western Europe? There may be, but I am not aware of it.

I think that paper is here.
Another theory is here
I do wonder what caused the past severe winters such as those of 1946–1947 and 1962–1963 when co2 was at the ‘safe’ limit? The UK winter of 1979 was also another bad one when Arctic seas ice extent was at its record level on the satellite record. WUWT?

The MET’s failings . which have lead to them longer making long or mid term forcasts public , can be laid at Slingo’s door. Addictited to fixed view point over AGW they proved unable to allow the date to speak for its self in the way real sceincetists should .

Last gasp extremist nonsense attempt at talking up the effects of co2 from a woman who knows her days in her overpaid job are numbered as the sun shows every sign of going into a minimum of some sort.

Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo said climate change was “loading the dice” towards freezing, drier weather — and called publicly for the first time for an urgent investigation.

She pronounces this despite the fact that no climate change model, ie co2 based model predicted the current 16 year temperature standstill, and certainly none predict a decrease in temperatures which is looking ever more likely.
The Met Office projection for the next few years is a decline in temperatures, based on a model which includes a greater proportion of solar effects and less co2, yet despite this Slingo refuses to acknowledge the solar aspect and sticks to her religious global warming co2 mantra.
Slingo is here attempting to mislead the general public by incorrectly attributing the expected trend towards colder European temperatures by blaming it on climate change (global warming) and hence co2 increase when in fact even her own scientists now attribute this to the apparent decline in solar activity / magnetism.
She should follow Hanson’s example and go now.

Going to the site and reading the article it says:
Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo said climate change was “loading the dice” towards freezing, drier weather — and called publicly for the first time for an urgent investigation.
The only part in quotation there is the “loading the dice”. Looks like a case of her being verbaled.
And, if you look at actual quotes attributed to her…
“If you look at the way our weather patterns have behaved over the past four or five years, we’re beginning to think that there is something happening.”
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“Our climate is being disrupted by the warming of the Arctic that we have observed very dramatically since 2007.”
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“We should pull together the best scientists to see how we can detect the influence of the Arctic on the jet stream, and on weather around the world.”
…it’s clear she appears not even to have mentioned global warming or making statements of panic. Her comments seem very measured. Something happening…worth investigating. Goodness gracious, how outlandish of her!
Hardly worthy of the vitriolic, hate-filled and abusive attacks made on her here.
She is owed an apology.

@ TheInquirer.
Slingo talks of climate change. This phrase was brought into being by the Met Office as a replacement for the phrase ‘global warming’.
When used by the Met Office and other co2 protagonists, ‘global warming’ and ‘climate change’ are one and the same.
By the way, it would appear that there aren’t many German Scientists who agree with the view that a warmer Arctic causes a colder European winter.
http://notrickszone.com/2013/04/12/hans-von-storch-fact-that-the-explanation-came-afterwards-is-just-more-reason-for-doubt/
No defence of Slingo is possible. She should ‘sling her hook’ or go find a broom stick and see if she can make that fly, as that would need the same sort of magic that it would take for a warmer Arctic to produce a colder, drier, snowier Europe.
And yes there is something happening, the Sun is entering an unusual state never before witnessed by modern science and one not seen since the 1800s and perhaps even going back to the 1600s.

The decline in Arctic ice extent did not start in any significant way until about 1980. UK winters started to get colder about 2007 , some 27 years later . The winters actually warmed from 1980 to about 2007 . There were at least 10 comparable cold periods before 1980 similar to the recent 5 cold winters that Prof. Slingo claims are due to lack of Arctic Ice . The logic just is not there. They are falsely trying every conceivable way to tie all weather events back to global warming and the logic is now approaching the ridiculous level especially coming from a chief climate advisor . The people of Uk deserve better .

Keitho,
“The deregulation of the banks, particularly with regard to mortgages was the brain child of W J Clinton.”
Good point. I left Clinton out lest it seems like I am writing from a partisan bias.

If you look at the DEC/JAN/ FEB/MARCH Arctic ice extent http://wattsupwiththat.com/reference-pages/sea-ice-page/ you will note that the latest 2012/2013, the Arctic ice extent is up where it was about 9 years ago. Look at all the charts . Yet the winter/ spring in UK was much colder .The colder weather was due to a combination of sudden warming of the stratosphere [ SSW], a steady negative AO and some blocking of the jet stream . Nothing to do with global warming. The long term cooling will be due to cooling global SST and low solar activity which affects our oceans and then our oceans in lagged timing affect our atmosphere.

Lucy Skywalker,
“… and that Graeff deserves the Nobel Prize for his almost-completely-unknown work… ”
Graeff’s results are intriguing, although temperature differences were pretty small. This would be directly due to the small magnitude of Earth’s gravity.
It got me thinking to a way of getting larger temperature gradientss – higher gravity. According to Einsteins GR, the effects of gravity and acceleration are interchangeable – it would be impossible to carry out any experiment that would give different results for physical laws in an accelerating system as opposed to in a gravitational field.
Therefore, why not put the apparatus in a low speed centrifuge, something that would generate maybe 20 to 50g. If the effect is real, relativity predicts that the temperature gradient would still be observed, and, thanks to the higher g values, much larger and easier to measure.

Vince Causey says: April 13, 2013 at 7:43 am
…why not put the apparatus in a low speed centrifuge…
If you are really interested, you need to contact Graeff or at least read up my articles at Tallbloke’s blog. I’ve directed you to the last instalment which is the only one with back links to all instalments.
Short answer is, the Ranque-Hilsch vortex tube makes use of Graeff’s principle applied to rotation quite usably, but not at all measurably. Graeff’s experiments measure very tiny quantities that only become clearly visible above “noise” by using longterm static experiments and very nifty statistics. He’s a lifetime engineer and knows how to milk evidence for what it’s worth, and design appropriate experiments on a shoestring. Introducing movement is a whole new ballgame of difficulties. That doesn’t mean he is blind to this dimension. Indeed, a Chinese professor tried to validate Graeff’s theory this way… but forgot some serious practical difficulties I forget what exactly.

Uh, LevelGaze –
Saturn and Titan are twice as far from the Sun as Jupiter and Ganymede, not closer. This would seem to contradict your statements here.

I think most commenters here have missed the point behind Slingo’s remarks. She is simply banging the drum. She really doesn’t care one jot about being shown to be inaccurate, or inconsistent, or any of the other criticisms levelled at her. She really doesn’t give a damn. That’s not what she’s there for. She is pulling an obscene amount of money to spout. That’s all. Spout. Doesn’t matter what she spouts. She is The Head Weather Person, and therefore her words carry an almost ex cathedra-like weight. Don’t forget we are still very much a feudal society here, and authority figures are granted a truly disturbing amount of deference for their utterances, howsoever inane. And she knows this, and those who put her there know this.
She couldn’t give a stuff about how other people’s lives are ruined by the onerous charges placed upon them as a direct consequence of the guff she spouts. She’s well off, and will stay that way as long as she does as she is told. So she does. Credibility is for little people.
That’s all.

Just a thought here – on BBC’s propoganda show,Countryfile, they are now comparing temperatures only back as far as 1910….. The meteoroligist in the Telegraph, Philip Eden, questioned this with the Met. Their response was that this is only for public consumption. The Met itself uses longer term figures! As the Scots say: Ay! Right!

Prof Slingo and some bloggers here seem to be implying that there is something wrong with the UK weather with last 5 -6 colder winters . The only thing that seems wrong is the MetOffice predictions for warmer winters and the CRU forecast of disappearing snow. There were similar multi year cold spells around 1917, 1929,1940,1947, 1963, 1979, just to name a few The Met office own graphs show the mean winter temperature to be mostly below the 1981-2010 averages from 1927 to 1987. Uk got spoiled by the warm spell between 1987 and 2007 which happened previously around 1910-1930
So it is quite normal for UK to have cold winters at least half the time and sometime even longer . Prior to about 1860, the winters were cold for at least a hundred years in a row. The cold winters are returning because, the solar cycle has been declining since 2000, the global oceans SST is declining, .Arctic Oscillation is mostly negative, there are more frequent SSW events and the jet stream pattern is changing. We are experiencing the pattern of 1880-1910 when we had similar situation with three low solar cycles and cooling oceans. That is why many of the winter records of this year are comparable to those about a100 years ago. The future trend of UK winters will most likely be cooler winters like the pattern of 1880-1910. It does not mean that every winter will be cold but the overall trend is more likely to be cooler than warmer

I think many of you haven’t thought this through. Slingo should have her employment renewed for 5 years, and her bonus doubled. It will take many more idiotic comments like hers, to bring the religion of AGW to its knees and ultimate death. We need more like Slingo, shovel in hand, to dig this grave, and finally bury the ACG monster. She’s her own worst enemy.
It’s hard to be patient, but science and mother nature are quickly debunking the theory of AGW, and we will once again call “climate change” just “weather”. Science will always triumph over speculation and conjecture.

The general public here in the UK mostly has sufficient common sense to shrug their shoulders at the nonsense spouted by the Met Office. But our politicians these days are sadly deficient in that quality – and many of them on the make from green policies.
This is why it is so important to expose the lies and obfuscations from the likes of Sligo: politicians in need of taxes and climatologists in need of grants form an impenetrable loop